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"I suspect there are some people in the UK who think “good on the Saudis!”" People on here have suggested a similar policy for the UK. | |||
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"BBC News are reporting that there are fields of dead migrants that Saudi police and military have been running down and blowing up with grenades. You can find it on the BBC News site if you search. Just remember that the people who bribe our leaders follow different rules to the rest of us." Abhorrent. Our government will not change their policy towards trading arms with the Saudis though. I wonder if all the footballers moving over there are being paid enough to have clear consciences. | |||
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"BBC News are reporting that there are fields of dead migrants that Saudi police and military have been running down and blowing up with grenades. You can find it on the BBC News site if you search. Just remember that the people who bribe our leaders follow different rules to the rest of us. Abhorrent. Our government will not change their policy towards trading arms with the Saudis though. I wonder if all the footballers moving over there are being paid enough to have clear consciences." oh there being paid more than enough, when cash is involved conscience dont come into it, by the way this has been going on for a while saw a report on it online quite a few months back | |||
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"BBC News are reporting that there are fields of dead migrants that Saudi police and military have been running down and blowing up with grenades. You can find it on the BBC News site if you search. Just remember that the people who bribe our leaders follow different rules to the rest of us. Abhorrent. Our government will not change their policy towards trading arms with the Saudis though. I wonder if all the footballers moving over there are being paid enough to have clear consciences.oh there being paid more than enough, when cash is involved conscience dont come into it, by the way this has been going on for a while saw a report on it online quite a few months back" So actually killing illegal immigrants is not therefore much of a disincentive to stop them! | |||
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"BBC News are reporting that there are fields of dead migrants that Saudi police and military have been running down and blowing up with grenades. You can find it on the BBC News site if you search. Just remember that the people who bribe our leaders follow different rules to the rest of us. Abhorrent. Our government will not change their policy towards trading arms with the Saudis though. I wonder if all the footballers moving over there are being paid enough to have clear consciences.oh there being paid more than enough, when cash is involved conscience dont come into it, by the way this has been going on for a while saw a report on it online quite a few months back So actually killing illegal immigrants is not therefore much of a disincentive to stop them! " obviously not as there all taking the money and like i said this has been going on for months and it didnt stop them signing for these clubs | |||
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"So actually killing illegal immigrants is not therefore much of a disincentive to stop them! " It certainly stops them. However the border crossing where this is happening is so remote, and the Saudi state very secretive, that we doubt the migrants know what they're walking into. | |||
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"BBC News are reporting that there are fields of dead migrants that Saudi police and military have been running down and blowing up with grenades. You can find it on the BBC News site if you search. Just remember that the people who bribe our leaders follow different rules to the rest of us. Abhorrent. Our government will not change their policy towards trading arms with the Saudis though. I wonder if all the footballers moving over there are being paid enough to have clear consciences.oh there being paid more than enough, when cash is involved conscience dont come into it, by the way this has been going on for a while saw a report on it online quite a few months back So actually killing illegal immigrants is not therefore much of a disincentive to stop them! " yeah but think of the shooting practice they are getting | |||
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"BBC News are reporting that there are fields of dead migrants that Saudi police and military have been running down and blowing up with grenades. You can find it on the BBC News site if you search. Just remember that the people who bribe our leaders follow different rules to the rest of us. Abhorrent. Our government will not change their policy towards trading arms with the Saudis though. I wonder if all the footballers moving over there are being paid enough to have clear consciences.oh there being paid more than enough, when cash is involved conscience dont come into it, by the way this has been going on for a while saw a report on it online quite a few months back So actually killing illegal immigrants is not therefore much of a disincentive to stop them! yeah but think of the shooting practice they are getting " Poor judgment | |||
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"Just because we have the weakest border control doesn't mean we should insist other sovereign nations have a border like ours. If that's how they wish to control their border then so be it." Actually killing people! Really? Fuck me  | |||
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"BBC News are reporting that there are fields of dead migrants that Saudi police and military have been running down and blowing up with grenades. You can find it on the BBC News site if you search. Just remember that the people who bribe our leaders follow different rules to the rest of us. Abhorrent. Our government will not change their policy towards trading arms with the Saudis though. I wonder if all the footballers moving over there are being paid enough to have clear consciences." The footballers going over there don't care, they are only interested in the money. | |||
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"Just because we have the weakest border control doesn't mean we should insist other sovereign nations have a border like ours. If that's how they wish to control their border then so be it." I disagree. We have every right to scrutinise and punish other sovereign nations who are committing genocide and human rights violations. We've forgotten that with great power comes great responsibility, and turning and looking the other way is tantamount to complicity. | |||
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"BBC News are reporting that there are fields of dead migrants that Saudi police and military have been running down and blowing up with grenades. You can find it on the BBC News site if you search. Just remember that the people who bribe our leaders follow different rules to the rest of us. Abhorrent. Our government will not change their policy towards trading arms with the Saudis though. I wonder if all the footballers moving over there are being paid enough to have clear consciences. The footballers going over there don't care, they are only interested in the money." Sad but true | |||
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"Just because we have the weakest border control doesn't mean we should insist other sovereign nations have a border like ours. If that's how they wish to control their border then so be it." Let's just hope you never need to emigrate to somewhere that mass murders foreigners. | |||
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"BBC News are reporting that there are fields of dead migrants that Saudi police and military have been running down and blowing up with grenades. You can find it on the BBC News site if you search. Just remember that the people who bribe our leaders follow different rules to the rest of us. Abhorrent. Our government will not change their policy towards trading arms with the Saudis though. I wonder if all the footballers moving over there are being paid enough to have clear consciences. The footballers going over there don't care, they are only interested in the money. Sad but true " And yet when I asked how much money do these people need I was battered for it | |||
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"Just because we have the weakest border control doesn't mean we should insist other sovereign nations have a border like ours. If that's how they wish to control their border then so be it." I’m gonna politely assume you’re d*unk or something. | |||
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"Clearly some of you who think this is just a Saudi issue have not read the news in the past two weeks. Migrants burnt to death within the european border." Could you give us a link to the news story? | |||
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"Clearly some of you who think this is just a Saudi issue have not read the news in the past two weeks. Migrants burnt to death within the european border. Didn't see this level of comment when the Greeks refused to help a sinking migrant boat and forced it to head away from its border. Saudi is one of many coutries who has shot and killed Migrants either leaving or trying to enter across a border." Oh why didn’t you say? That makes it all alright then  | |||
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"Clearly some of you who think this is just a Saudi issue have not read the news in the past two weeks. Migrants burnt to death within the european border." A group were caught out by wild fires and died in a forest fire. Just adding context so folk realise they were caught up in an act of nature and weren't killed by people using flamethrowers or something. | |||
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"Clearly some of you who think this is just a Saudi issue have not read the news in the past two weeks. Migrants burnt to death within the european border. A group were caught out by wild fires and died in a forest fire. Just adding context so folk realise they were caught up in an act of nature and weren't killed by people using flamethrowers or something." That is true, however the mood in Greece and Italy has significantly changed. They are impounding boats that go out and pick up migrants and stopping some from leaving port. The news of this did hit the headlines and quickly disappeared when the authorities did not back down. It has had a knock on effect of migrants now travelling to Tunisia to make the crossings, I'm guessing that will make it less of a problem fro Greece and Italy, but become some other countries problem. If they then follow Greece and Italy in the way they dealt with things the Med crossings will potentially be stopped. | |||
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"Clearly some of you who think this is just a Saudi issue have not read the news in the past two weeks. Migrants burnt to death within the european border. A group were caught out by wild fires and died in a forest fire. Just adding context so folk realise they were caught up in an act of nature and weren't killed by people using flamethrowers or something. That is true, however the mood in Greece and Italy has significantly changed. They are impounding boats that go out and pick up migrants and stopping some from leaving port. The news of this did hit the headlines and quickly disappeared when the authorities did not back down. It has had a knock on effect of migrants now travelling to Tunisia to make the crossings, I'm guessing that will make it less of a problem fro Greece and Italy, but become some other countries problem. If they then follow Greece and Italy in the way they dealt with things the Med crossings will potentially be stopped." Italy is dying and needs migration. Like most of the western world indigenous birth rates are falling. Unfortunately for some the migrants are the wrong colour. https://youtu.be/bUES2-XXdlI?si=DdJZMFBGKwimrDpq | |||
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"Saudis can do what they want as they have all the money and oil. Strange the Americans did target the Saudis after 9/11 considering most the guys involved were Saudis?" Did or didn't..? | |||
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"Saudis can do what they want as they have all the money and oil. Strange the Americans did target the Saudis after 9/11 considering most the guys involved were Saudis? Did or didn't..?" Didn't unless they did and I missed that lol | |||
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"Wow. I have to come to sex forum to find out something i cant find in MSM Unbelievable. Ps. Why ate we do. Friendly with this murderous dictatorship. ( journalists. Political opponents. Gays. Immigrants ) " . Because they buy shitloads of weaponary from us simple really, and i guarantee u it will be the same when a labour gov gets in, they not gona give that income stream up | |||
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"Because they buy shitloads of weaponary from us simple really, and i guarantee u it will be the same when a labour gov gets in, they not gona give that income stream up" Well its called HM government for a reason as it operates in HM interests and not those of the people. | |||
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"Just because we have the weakest border control doesn't mean we should insist other sovereign nations have a border like ours. If that's how they wish to control their border then so be it." Incredible. People like you exist. Incredible. | |||
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"Just because we have the weakest border control doesn't mean we should insist other sovereign nations have a border like ours. If that's how they wish to control their border then so be it. I disagree. We have every right to scrutinise and punish other sovereign nations who are committing genocide and human rights violations. We've forgotten that with great power comes great responsibility, and turning and looking the other way is tantamount to complicity." We aren't the world police. | |||
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"We aren't the world police." And that is the problem. There is not a "world police" and there very much needs to be. Yes, I know there is the UN. "The United Nations is an intergovernmental organization whose stated purposes are to maintain international peace and security, develop friendly relations among nations, achieve international cooperation, and serve as a centre for harmonizing the actions of nations". I am aware the UN work with Saudi Arabia and also deliver humanitarian aid in Yemen. But if Yemeni migrants are being killed at the Saudi border, then something isn't working. | |||
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"Just because we have the weakest border control doesn't mean we should insist other sovereign nations have a border like ours. If that's how they wish to control their border then so be it. Actually killing people! Really? Fuck me "Welcome to humanity in 2023. | |||
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"We aren't the world police. And that is the problem. There is not a "world police" and there very much needs to be. Yes, I know there is the UN. "The United Nations is an intergovernmental organization whose stated purposes are to maintain international peace and security, develop friendly relations among nations, achieve international cooperation, and serve as a centre for harmonizing the actions of nations". I am aware the UN work with Saudi Arabia and also deliver humanitarian aid in Yemen. But if Yemeni migrants are being killed at the Saudi border, then something isn't working." It's not Yeminis in the main. It's predominantly people from east Africa, e.g. Ethiopia. | |||
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"It's not Yeminis in the main. It's predominantly people from east Africa, e.g. Ethiopia." Thank you. Sorry, I missed them. To be fair, I think the Saudi's are pot-shotting at everybody, by the sound of it ! | |||
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"It's not Yeminis in the main. It's predominantly people from east Africa, e.g. Ethiopia. Thank you. Sorry, I missed them. To be fair, I think the Saudi's are pot-shotting at everybody, by the sound of it !" It certainly doesn't justify it. It doesn't matter who they are shooting, they simply shouldn't be doing it  | |||
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"It certainly doesn't justify it. It doesn't matter who they are shooting, they simply shouldn't be doing it "I know. And this is where I feel the UN fall down. I'm beginning to wonder if a remit to purely pacify, is not always appropriate. | |||
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