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By *uietbloke67 OP   Man
over a year ago

outside your bedroom window ;-)

Only in this we crap island can an entailed eejit get the airwaves of being denied the services of an entitled bank 99% of us cannot join and be the victim.

Only in this country can we take asylum seekers and throw them on a barge 6 to a room, not knowing who or what they are living with and labelling them criminals for fleeing persecution.

Only in this country will we take those same people and threaten to send them to a country where sexual rights are denied and call it "the right thing to do"

Only in this country can 4 Prime Ministers be found to be supporting either their own fears from their party or lining their and their friends pockets.

Only in this country can elected members of state be given free airtime to procrastinate their political message over a charade of an Independants news channels.

For those not sure about how low this country has sunk - if they close your local Co-op in Eng or Wls then you know its because your government has not provided the money to keep your local streets safe.

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma

It does beg the obvious question of why you put up with such things that clearly distress you?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’ve been chatting with a lass at work who’s from Colombia. She’s overwhelmingly positive about the people of the U.K (predominantly Londoners), but her biggest bugbears are

A) The way many in the U.K assume Colombia is rife with drugs when in actual fact it’s essentially US and UK demand for the drugs that keeps the industry going

And B) Our terrible, terrible food.

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"I’ve been chatting with a lass at work who’s from Colombia. She’s overwhelmingly positive about the people of the U.K (predominantly Londoners), but her biggest bugbears are

A) The way many in the U.K assume Colombia is rife with drugs when in actual fact it’s essentially US and UK demand for the drugs that keeps the industry going

And B) Our terrible, terrible food. "

I disagree with terrible food, we have some of the finest food in the world.

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By *rDiscretionXXXMan
over a year ago

Gilfach


"I’ve been chatting with a lass at work who’s from Colombia. She’s overwhelmingly positive about the people of the U.K (predominantly Londoners), but her biggest bugbears are

A) The way many in the U.K assume Colombia is rife with drugs when in actual fact it’s essentially US and UK demand for the drugs that keeps the industry going

And B) Our terrible, terrible food. "

If she lives in London, there's no excuse for eating poor quality food. She should be complaining about her terrible terrible restaurant choices.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Only in this we crap island can an entailed eejit get the airwaves of being denied the services of an entitled bank 99% of us cannot join and be the victim.

Only in this country can we take asylum seekers and throw them on a barge 6 to a room, not knowing who or what they are living with and labelling them criminals for fleeing persecution.

Only in this country will we take those same people and threaten to send them to a country where sexual rights are denied and call it "the right thing to do"

Only in this country can 4 Prime Ministers be found to be supporting either their own fears from their party or lining their and their friends pockets.

Only in this country can elected members of state be given free airtime to procrastinate their political message over a charade of an Independants news channels.

For those not sure about how low this country has sunk - if they close your local Co-op in Eng or Wls then you know its because your government has not provided the money to keep your local streets safe.

"

A politicised banking sector probably isn’t a good idea.

Every wealthy country has a problem over how to house asylum seekers

Lots of countries are exploring where to resettle asylum seekers abroad - including EU countries

Every political leader in the democratic world has a problem keeping their party on board

Every political leader in the democratic world goes on tv to talk about their views

What on earth are you talking about?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"I’ve been chatting with a lass at work who’s from Colombia. She’s overwhelmingly positive about the people of the U.K (predominantly Londoners), but her biggest bugbears are

A) The way many in the U.K assume Colombia is rife with drugs when in actual fact it’s essentially US and UK demand for the drugs that keeps the industry going

And B) Our terrible, terrible food. "

She right on the former but not the latter..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I’ve been chatting with a lass at work who’s from Colombia. She’s overwhelmingly positive about the people of the U.K (predominantly Londoners), but her biggest bugbears are

A) The way many in the U.K assume Colombia is rife with drugs when in actual fact it’s essentially US and UK demand for the drugs that keeps the industry going

And B) Our terrible, terrible food.

I disagree with terrible food, we have some of the finest food in the world. "

Generally the stuff we’ve adopted from elsewhere

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By *orleymanMan
over a year ago

Leeds


"Only in this we crap island can an entailed eejit get the airwaves of being denied the services of an entitled bank 99% of us cannot join and be the victim.

Only in this country can we take asylum seekers and throw them on a barge 6 to a room, not knowing who or what they are living with and labelling them criminals for fleeing persecution.

Only in this country will we take those same people and threaten to send them to a country where sexual rights are denied and call it "the right thing to do"

Only in this country can 4 Prime Ministers be found to be supporting either their own fears from their party or lining their and their friends pockets.

Only in this country can elected members of state be given free airtime to procrastinate their political message over a charade of an Independants news channels.

For those not sure about how low this country has sunk - if they close your local Co-op in Eng or Wls then you know its because your government has not provided the money to keep your local streets safe.

"

Erm.

I think you need to actually read up on the things you're discussing.

Clearly guardian headlines and byline times articles have affected your ability to think critically.

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood


"Only in this we crap island can an entailed eejit get the airwaves of being denied the services of an entitled bank 99% of us cannot join and be the victim.

Only in this country can we take asylum seekers and throw them on a barge 6 to a room, not knowing who or what they are living with and labelling them criminals for fleeing persecution.

Only in this country will we take those same people and threaten to send them to a country where sexual rights are denied and call it "the right thing to do"

Only in this country can 4 Prime Ministers be found to be supporting either their own fears from their party or lining their and their friends pockets.

Only in this country can elected members of state be given free airtime to procrastinate their political message over a charade of an Independants news channels.

For those not sure about how low this country has sunk - if they close your local Co-op in Eng or Wls then you know its because your government has not provided the money to keep your local streets safe.

"

its two to a room on the barge and even if it was six its gota be better than the tarpaulin they were sleeping under in calais

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields


"Only in this we crap island can an entailed eejit get the airwaves of being denied the services of an entitled bank 99% of us cannot join and be the victim.

Only in this country can we take asylum seekers and throw them on a barge 6 to a room, not knowing who or what they are living with and labelling them criminals for fleeing persecution.

Only in this country will we take those same people and threaten to send them to a country where sexual rights are denied and call it "the right thing to do"

Only in this country can 4 Prime Ministers be found to be supporting either their own fears from their party or lining their and their friends pockets.

Only in this country can elected members of state be given free airtime to procrastinate their political message over a charade of an Independants news channels.

For those not sure about how low this country has sunk - if they close your local Co-op in Eng or Wls then you know its because your government has not provided the money to keep your local streets safe.

"

People relentlessly voted for the mess we're in, are never going to admit we're in a mess.

Although I will say, plenty of other countries are in a similar situation.

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By *uietbloke67 OP   Man
over a year ago

outside your bedroom window ;-)


"It does beg the obvious question of why you put up with such things that clearly distress you? "

Don't be a smart arse patronising clown!

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By *uietbloke67 OP   Man
over a year ago

outside your bedroom window ;-)


"Only in this we crap island can an entailed eejit get the airwaves of being denied the services of an entitled bank 99% of us cannot join and be the victim.

Only in this country can we take asylum seekers and throw them on a barge 6 to a room, not knowing who or what they are living with and labelling them criminals for fleeing persecution.

Only in this country will we take those same people and threaten to send them to a country where sexual rights are denied and call it "the right thing to do"

Only in this country can 4 Prime Ministers be found to be supporting either their own fears from their party or lining their and their friends pockets.

Only in this country can elected members of state be given free airtime to procrastinate their political message over a charade of an Independants news channels.

For those not sure about how low this country has sunk - if they close your local Co-op in Eng or Wls then you know its because your government has not provided the money to keep your local streets safe.

Erm.

I think you need to actually read up on the things you're discussing.

Clearly guardian headlines and byline times articles have affected your ability to think critically."

Never read the guardian in my life mate ...what's your next pigeon hole theory ...

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By *uietbloke67 OP   Man
over a year ago

outside your bedroom window ;-)


"Only in this we crap island can an entailed eejit get the airwaves of being denied the services of an entitled bank 99% of us cannot join and be the victim.

Only in this country can we take asylum seekers and throw them on a barge 6 to a room, not knowing who or what they are living with and labelling them criminals for fleeing persecution.

Only in this country will we take those same people and threaten to send them to a country where sexual rights are denied and call it "the right thing to do"

Only in this country can 4 Prime Ministers be found to be supporting either their own fears from their party or lining their and their friends pockets.

Only in this country can elected members of state be given free airtime to procrastinate their political message over a charade of an Independants news channels.

For those not sure about how low this country has sunk - if they close your local Co-op in Eng or Wls then you know its because your government has not provided the money to keep your local streets safe.

A politicised banking sector probably isn’t a good idea.

You missed the point

Every wealthy country has a problem over how to house asylum seekers

You missed the point

But they don't make it illegal

Lots of countries are exploring where to resettle asylum seekers abroad - including EU

I think one Euro country tried it and abandoned it- name one who is sending asylum seekers to another country now?

Every political leader in the democratic world has a problem keeping their party on board.

You missed the point

Every political leader in the democratic world goes on tv to talk about their views

You missed the point

Not on sponsored private TV channels proportions to be indeoendant but sponsored right wing new...Reece Dong GB nonsense

What on earth are you talking about?

Perhaps you don't understand it

"

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"It does beg the obvious question of why you put up with such things that clearly distress you?

Don't be a smart arse patronising clown!"

Well what a start, we seem to be getting on like a house on fire.

Question still stands if you would care to answer, and not throw out random insults…

If this country is so bad and it is obviously causing you distress and a lot of anger, why put up with it?

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields


"It does beg the obvious question of why you put up with such things that clearly distress you?

Don't be a smart arse patronising clown!

Well what a start, we seem to be getting on like a house on fire.

Question still stands if you would care to answer, and not throw out random insults…

If this country is so bad and it is obviously causing you distress and a lot of anger, why put up with it?"

Lots of people don't put up with it. They speak out, march, protest, are politically engaged, and vote accordingly.

All the things the current regime are trying to restrict or demonise.

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"It does beg the obvious question of why you put up with such things that clearly distress you?

Don't be a smart arse patronising clown!

Well what a start, we seem to be getting on like a house on fire.

Question still stands if you would care to answer, and not throw out random insults…

If this country is so bad and it is obviously causing you distress and a lot of anger, why put up with it?

Lots of people don't put up with it. They speak out, march, protest, are politically engaged, and vote accordingly.

All the things the current regime are trying to restrict or demonise.

"

Is he though? What does he do?

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields


"It does beg the obvious question of why you put up with such things that clearly distress you?

Don't be a smart arse patronising clown!

Well what a start, we seem to be getting on like a house on fire.

Question still stands if you would care to answer, and not throw out random insults…

If this country is so bad and it is obviously causing you distress and a lot of anger, why put up with it?

Lots of people don't put up with it. They speak out, march, protest, are politically engaged, and vote accordingly.

All the things the current regime are trying to restrict or demonise.

Is he though? What does he do?"

He who?

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"It does beg the obvious question of why you put up with such things that clearly distress you?

Don't be a smart arse patronising clown!

Well what a start, we seem to be getting on like a house on fire.

Question still stands if you would care to answer, and not throw out random insults…

If this country is so bad and it is obviously causing you distress and a lot of anger, why put up with it?

Lots of people don't put up with it. They speak out, march, protest, are politically engaged, and vote accordingly.

All the things the current regime are trying to restrict or demonise.

Is he though? What does he do?

He who?"

My mate the one I was responding to

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields


"It does beg the obvious question of why you put up with such things that clearly distress you?

Don't be a smart arse patronising clown!

Well what a start, we seem to be getting on like a house on fire.

Question still stands if you would care to answer, and not throw out random insults…

If this country is so bad and it is obviously causing you distress and a lot of anger, why put up with it?

Lots of people don't put up with it. They speak out, march, protest, are politically engaged, and vote accordingly.

All the things the current regime are trying to restrict or demonise.

Is he though? What does he do?

He who?

My mate the one I was responding to"

Oh. No idea.

Just saying that many people don't put up with it. Of course, lots of people do put up with it too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

OP not sure about the UK being the only country where the things you mentioned happens.

But if you said we are the only country where the governments, ass lickers or associates can get a position that entitles them a good salary for life and a title that makes them feel superior to the common citizen. Then I might have agreed with you.

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By *rlandoMan
over a year ago

Lincolnshire

English are a country of Serfs .... no wonder the Scots want to run .....

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By *uietbloke67 OP   Man
over a year ago

outside your bedroom window ;-)


"It does beg the obvious question of why you put up with such things that clearly distress you?

Don't be a smart arse patronising clown!

Well what a start, we seem to be getting on like a house on fire.

Question still stands if you would care to answer, and not throw out random insults…

If this country is so bad and it is obviously causing you distress and a lot of anger, why put up with it?"

OK few points here

1. It was not a random insult, it was well intentioned and directed at you. Why, well as I said you where trying to be patronising and perhaps funny, unfortunately you surpassed the first and completely failed at the second.

However let bygones be bygones.

So your question on this country, distress and anger.

I'll split that into 3

1. Countries, we are an amalgamation of separate states that work under pre-defined legislation, some of the countries within that group have more internal autonomy than others, however I will agree externally we work as one collective nation.

2. Distress - this country (see above) was at the start of the 90s one of the most progressive and welcoming countries in the world. Under the Conservative policies of John Major we found a settled middle of the road political system that supported the majority but did not marginalise the minority, later this policy was further enabled by Blair and subsequently Brown (though both have wider questions to answer on WOMD). I think even you would agree the UK felt a greater sense of togetherness, unity and fairness in that period. We also had mass emigration then, however we could house them, simply because England built houses, or had houses previously to use and the NHS was supported. Just a couple of examples however I could give you more over a conversation.

Anger - It is not anger it is disappointment. Disappointment that we have let a rabble line their own pickets through health, through energy and through greed. We have let a rabble use the MSM as a nuclear weapon in the war of twisting minds and warping view. Let them use the age old tactic of divide and conjure to line their own pockets, the Spurs MD recently indidented in Amercica with a billion doller yacht one example however there are plenty more.

Remember this government has taken the Russian Rouble, Chinese Yen and the Saudi (whatever they use) in plentiful and for what. The NHS is a political toy that they cannot solve, house prices are beyond the commen person, England still refuses to build any social housing and what's in the news.

An entitled upper class banker is in a huff because he has been kicked out a bank that 99% of the people of this country cannot join.

Ps

The Gas profits are eh quote "just a one off" 1 billion profit in 6 months ...that's one feck of One Off!!

Apologise for the bad spelling and grammar.

Have a nice weekend.

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"It does beg the obvious question of why you put up with such things that clearly distress you?

Don't be a smart arse patronising clown!

Well what a start, we seem to be getting on like a house on fire.

Question still stands if you would care to answer, and not throw out random insults…

If this country is so bad and it is obviously causing you distress and a lot of anger, why put up with it?

OK few points here

1. It was not a random insult, it was well intentioned and directed at you. Why, well as I said you where trying to be patronising and perhaps funny, unfortunately you surpassed the first and completely failed at the second.

However let bygones be bygones.

So your question on this country, distress and anger.

I'll split that into 3

1. Countries, we are an amalgamation of separate states that work under pre-defined legislation, some of the countries within that group have more internal autonomy than others, however I will agree externally we work as one collective nation.

2. Distress - this country (see above) was at the start of the 90s one of the most progressive and welcoming countries in the world. Under the Conservative policies of John Major we found a settled middle of the road political system that supported the majority but did not marginalise the minority, later this policy was further enabled by Blair and subsequently Brown (though both have wider questions to answer on WOMD). I think even you would agree the UK felt a greater sense of togetherness, unity and fairness in that period. We also had mass emigration then, however we could house them, simply because England built houses, or had houses previously to use and the NHS was supported. Just a couple of examples however I could give you more over a conversation.

Anger - It is not anger it is disappointment. Disappointment that we have let a rabble line their own pickets through health, through energy and through greed. We have let a rabble use the MSM as a nuclear weapon in the war of twisting minds and warping view. Let them use the age old tactic of divide and conjure to line their own pockets, the Spurs MD recently indidented in Amercica with a billion doller yacht one example however there are plenty more.

Remember this government has taken the Russian Rouble, Chinese Yen and the Saudi (whatever they use) in plentiful and for what. The NHS is a political toy that they cannot solve, house prices are beyond the commen person, England still refuses to build any social housing and what's in the news.

An entitled upper class banker is in a huff because he has been kicked out a bank that 99% of the people of this country cannot join.

Ps

The Gas profits are eh quote "just a one off" 1 billion profit in 6 months ...that's one feck of One Off!!

Apologise for the bad spelling and grammar.

Have a nice weekend."

A lot to unpack in this..

Let’s start with the insults. Simply stop them, no need and this is the last time I will say this.

You have political views that whether I agree with them or not are yours, we could discuss them but not all of them in one large mind dump, that basically comes across as anger.

You pick your top priority, the one that you feel is the most important and let’s discuss that, sensibly

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields


"It does beg the obvious question of why you put up with such things that clearly distress you?

Don't be a smart arse patronising clown!

Well what a start, we seem to be getting on like a house on fire.

Question still stands if you would care to answer, and not throw out random insults…

If this country is so bad and it is obviously causing you distress and a lot of anger, why put up with it?

OK few points here

1. It was not a random insult, it was well intentioned and directed at you. Why, well as I said you where trying to be patronising and perhaps funny, unfortunately you surpassed the first and completely failed at the second.

However let bygones be bygones.

So your question on this country, distress and anger.

I'll split that into 3

1. Countries, we are an amalgamation of separate states that work under pre-defined legislation, some of the countries within that group have more internal autonomy than others, however I will agree externally we work as one collective nation.

2. Distress - this country (see above) was at the start of the 90s one of the most progressive and welcoming countries in the world. Under the Conservative policies of John Major we found a settled middle of the road political system that supported the majority but did not marginalise the minority, later this policy was further enabled by Blair and subsequently Brown (though both have wider questions to answer on WOMD). I think even you would agree the UK felt a greater sense of togetherness, unity and fairness in that period. We also had mass emigration then, however we could house them, simply because England built houses, or had houses previously to use and the NHS was supported. Just a couple of examples however I could give you more over a conversation.

Anger - It is not anger it is disappointment. Disappointment that we have let a rabble line their own pickets through health, through energy and through greed. We have let a rabble use the MSM as a nuclear weapon in the war of twisting minds and warping view. Let them use the age old tactic of divide and conjure to line their own pockets, the Spurs MD recently indidented in Amercica with a billion doller yacht one example however there are plenty more.

Remember this government has taken the Russian Rouble, Chinese Yen and the Saudi (whatever they use) in plentiful and for what. The NHS is a political toy that they cannot solve, house prices are beyond the commen person, England still refuses to build any social housing and what's in the news.

An entitled upper class banker is in a huff because he has been kicked out a bank that 99% of the people of this country cannot join.

Ps

The Gas profits are eh quote "just a one off" 1 billion profit in 6 months ...that's one feck of One Off!!

Apologise for the bad spelling and grammar.

Have a nice weekend."

I agree with the poster above me. Make the points without getting personal. There's too much of that going on at the moment.

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By *uietbloke67 OP   Man
over a year ago

outside your bedroom window ;-)


"It does beg the obvious question of why you put up with such things that clearly distress you?

Don't be a smart arse patronising clown!

Well what a start, we seem to be getting on like a house on fire.

Question still stands if you would care to answer, and not throw out random insults…

If this country is so bad and it is obviously causing you distress and a lot of anger, why put up with it?

OK few points here

1. It was not a random insult, it was well intentioned and directed at you. Why, well as I said you where trying to be patronising and perhaps funny, unfortunately you surpassed the first and completely failed at the second.

However let bygones be bygones.

So your question on this country, distress and anger.

I'll split that into 3

1. Countries, we are an amalgamation of separate states that work under pre-defined legislation, some of the countries within that group have more internal autonomy than others, however I will agree externally we work as one collective nation.

2. Distress - this country (see above) was at the start of the 90s one of the most progressive and welcoming countries in the world. Under the Conservative policies of John Major we found a settled middle of the road political system that supported the majority but did not marginalise the minority, later this policy was further enabled by Blair and subsequently Brown (though both have wider questions to answer on WOMD). I think even you would agree the UK felt a greater sense of togetherness, unity and fairness in that period. We also had mass emigration then, however we could house them, simply because England built houses, or had houses previously to use and the NHS was supported. Just a couple of examples however I could give you more over a conversation.

Anger - It is not anger it is disappointment. Disappointment that we have let a rabble line their own pickets through health, through energy and through greed. We have let a rabble use the MSM as a nuclear weapon in the war of twisting minds and warping view. Let them use the age old tactic of divide and conjure to line their own pockets, the Spurs MD recently indidented in Amercica with a billion doller yacht one example however there are plenty more.

Remember this government has taken the Russian Rouble, Chinese Yen and the Saudi (whatever they use) in plentiful and for what. The NHS is a political toy that they cannot solve, house prices are beyond the commen person, England still refuses to build any social housing and what's in the news.

An entitled upper class banker is in a huff because he has been kicked out a bank that 99% of the people of this country cannot join.

Ps

The Gas profits are eh quote "just a one off" 1 billion profit in 6 months ...that's one feck of One Off!!

Apologise for the bad spelling and grammar.

Have a nice weekend.

A lot to unpack in this..

Let’s start with the insults. Simply stop them, no need and this is the last time I will say this.

You have political views that whether I agree with them or not are yours, we could discuss them but not all of them in one large mind dump, that basically comes across as anger.

You pick your top priority, the one that you feel is the most important and let’s discuss that, sensibly

"

Well now we have moved beyond tuppeny penny comments and insults I'd be more than happy to have a sensible conversations. I assure you disappointment is the only feeling. Though I'm sure we both could agree anger and greed are two very good political motivators.

What do you wish to sensibly discuss?

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"It does beg the obvious question of why you put up with such things that clearly distress you?

Don't be a smart arse patronising clown!

Well what a start, we seem to be getting on like a house on fire.

Question still stands if you would care to answer, and not throw out random insults…

If this country is so bad and it is obviously causing you distress and a lot of anger, why put up with it?

OK few points here

1. It was not a random insult, it was well intentioned and directed at you. Why, well as I said you where trying to be patronising and perhaps funny, unfortunately you surpassed the first and completely failed at the second.

However let bygones be bygones.

So your question on this country, distress and anger.

I'll split that into 3

1. Countries, we are an amalgamation of separate states that work under pre-defined legislation, some of the countries within that group have more internal autonomy than others, however I will agree externally we work as one collective nation.

2. Distress - this country (see above) was at the start of the 90s one of the most progressive and welcoming countries in the world. Under the Conservative policies of John Major we found a settled middle of the road political system that supported the majority but did not marginalise the minority, later this policy was further enabled by Blair and subsequently Brown (though both have wider questions to answer on WOMD). I think even you would agree the UK felt a greater sense of togetherness, unity and fairness in that period. We also had mass emigration then, however we could house them, simply because England built houses, or had houses previously to use and the NHS was supported. Just a couple of examples however I could give you more over a conversation.

Anger - It is not anger it is disappointment. Disappointment that we have let a rabble line their own pickets through health, through energy and through greed. We have let a rabble use the MSM as a nuclear weapon in the war of twisting minds and warping view. Let them use the age old tactic of divide and conjure to line their own pockets, the Spurs MD recently indidented in Amercica with a billion doller yacht one example however there are plenty more.

Remember this government has taken the Russian Rouble, Chinese Yen and the Saudi (whatever they use) in plentiful and for what. The NHS is a political toy that they cannot solve, house prices are beyond the commen person, England still refuses to build any social housing and what's in the news.

An entitled upper class banker is in a huff because he has been kicked out a bank that 99% of the people of this country cannot join.

Ps

The Gas profits are eh quote "just a one off" 1 billion profit in 6 months ...that's one feck of One Off!!

Apologise for the bad spelling and grammar.

Have a nice weekend.

A lot to unpack in this..

Let’s start with the insults. Simply stop them, no need and this is the last time I will say this.

You have political views that whether I agree with them or not are yours, we could discuss them but not all of them in one large mind dump, that basically comes across as anger.

You pick your top priority, the one that you feel is the most important and let’s discuss that, sensibly

Well now we have moved beyond tuppeny penny comments and insults I'd be more than happy to have a sensible conversations. I assure you disappointment is the only feeling. Though I'm sure we both could agree anger and greed are two very good political motivators.

What do you wish to sensibly discuss? "

Down to you, I’m rather opinionated but not generally fussy, I don’t tend to take a party lead and have my own views.

If you need a nudge you could go down your list in order.

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By *uietbloke67 OP   Man
over a year ago

outside your bedroom window ;-)


"It does beg the obvious question of why you put up with such things that clearly distress you?

Don't be a smart arse patronising clown!

Well what a start, we seem to be getting on like a house on fire.

Question still stands if you would care to answer, and not throw out random insults…

If this country is so bad and it is obviously causing you distress and a lot of anger, why put up with it?

OK few points here

1. It was not a random insult, it was well intentioned and directed at you. Why, well as I said you where trying to be patronising and perhaps funny, unfortunately you surpassed the first and completely failed at the second.

However let bygones be bygones.

So your question on this country, distress and anger.

I'll split that into 3

1. Countries, we are an amalgamation of separate states that work under pre-defined legislation, some of the countries within that group have more internal autonomy than others, however I will agree externally we work as one collective nation.

2. Distress - this country (see above) was at the start of the 90s one of the most progressive and welcoming countries in the world. Under the Conservative policies of John Major we found a settled middle of the road political system that supported the majority but did not marginalise the minority, later this policy was further enabled by Blair and subsequently Brown (though both have wider questions to answer on WOMD). I think even you would agree the UK felt a greater sense of togetherness, unity and fairness in that period. We also had mass emigration then, however we could house them, simply because England built houses, or had houses previously to use and the NHS was supported. Just a couple of examples however I could give you more over a conversation.

Anger - It is not anger it is disappointment. Disappointment that we have let a rabble line their own pickets through health, through energy and through greed. We have let a rabble use the MSM as a nuclear weapon in the war of twisting minds and warping view. Let them use the age old tactic of divide and conjure to line their own pockets, the Spurs MD recently indidented in Amercica with a billion doller yacht one example however there are plenty more.

Remember this government has taken the Russian Rouble, Chinese Yen and the Saudi (whatever they use) in plentiful and for what. The NHS is a political toy that they cannot solve, house prices are beyond the commen person, England still refuses to build any social housing and what's in the news.

An entitled upper class banker is in a huff because he has been kicked out a bank that 99% of the people of this country cannot join.

Ps

The Gas profits are eh quote "just a one off" 1 billion profit in 6 months ...that's one feck of One Off!!

Apologise for the bad spelling and grammar.

Have a nice weekend.

A lot to unpack in this..

Let’s start with the insults. Simply stop them, no need and this is the last time I will say this.

You have political views that whether I agree with them or not are yours, we could discuss them but not all of them in one large mind dump, that basically comes across as anger.

You pick your top priority, the one that you feel is the most important and let’s discuss that, sensibly

Well now we have moved beyond tuppeny penny comments and insults I'd be more than happy to have a sensible conversations. I assure you disappointment is the only feeling. Though I'm sure we both could agree anger and greed are two very good political motivators.

What do you wish to sensibly discuss?

Down to you, I’m rather opinionated but not generally fussy, I don’t tend to take a party lead and have my own views.

If you need a nudge you could go down your list in order."

You are free to start where ever you wish, I've made my points and said quite a lot (some could say to much) feel free to retort, nudge away.

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"It does beg the obvious question of why you put up with such things that clearly distress you?

Don't be a smart arse patronising clown!

Well what a start, we seem to be getting on like a house on fire.

Question still stands if you would care to answer, and not throw out random insults…

If this country is so bad and it is obviously causing you distress and a lot of anger, why put up with it?

OK few points here

1. It was not a random insult, it was well intentioned and directed at you. Why, well as I said you where trying to be patronising and perhaps funny, unfortunately you surpassed the first and completely failed at the second.

However let bygones be bygones.

So your question on this country, distress and anger.

I'll split that into 3

1. Countries, we are an amalgamation of separate states that work under pre-defined legislation, some of the countries within that group have more internal autonomy than others, however I will agree externally we work as one collective nation.

2. Distress - this country (see above) was at the start of the 90s one of the most progressive and welcoming countries in the world. Under the Conservative policies of John Major we found a settled middle of the road political system that supported the majority but did not marginalise the minority, later this policy was further enabled by Blair and subsequently Brown (though both have wider questions to answer on WOMD). I think even you would agree the UK felt a greater sense of togetherness, unity and fairness in that period. We also had mass emigration then, however we could house them, simply because England built houses, or had houses previously to use and the NHS was supported. Just a couple of examples however I could give you more over a conversation.

Anger - It is not anger it is disappointment. Disappointment that we have let a rabble line their own pickets through health, through energy and through greed. We have let a rabble use the MSM as a nuclear weapon in the war of twisting minds and warping view. Let them use the age old tactic of divide and conjure to line their own pockets, the Spurs MD recently indidented in Amercica with a billion doller yacht one example however there are plenty more.

Remember this government has taken the Russian Rouble, Chinese Yen and the Saudi (whatever they use) in plentiful and for what. The NHS is a political toy that they cannot solve, house prices are beyond the commen person, England still refuses to build any social housing and what's in the news.

An entitled upper class banker is in a huff because he has been kicked out a bank that 99% of the people of this country cannot join.

Ps

The Gas profits are eh quote "just a one off" 1 billion profit in 6 months ...that's one feck of One Off!!

Apologise for the bad spelling and grammar.

Have a nice weekend.

A lot to unpack in this..

Let’s start with the insults. Simply stop them, no need and this is the last time I will say this.

You have political views that whether I agree with them or not are yours, we could discuss them but not all of them in one large mind dump, that basically comes across as anger.

You pick your top priority, the one that you feel is the most important and let’s discuss that, sensibly

Well now we have moved beyond tuppeny penny comments and insults I'd be more than happy to have a sensible conversations. I assure you disappointment is the only feeling. Though I'm sure we both could agree anger and greed are two very good political motivators.

What do you wish to sensibly discuss?

Down to you, I’m rather opinionated but not generally fussy, I don’t tend to take a party lead and have my own views.

If you need a nudge you could go down your list in order.

You are free to start where ever you wish, I've made my points and said quite a lot (some could say to much) feel free to retort, nudge away.

"

A little too much work for me, I simply don’t care enough based on what I’ve seen so far to prompt you.

Good luck in the forum

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By *uietbloke67 OP   Man
over a year ago

outside your bedroom window ;-)


"It does beg the obvious question of why you put up with such things that clearly distress you?

Don't be a smart arse patronising clown!

Well what a start, we seem to be getting on like a house on fire.

Question still stands if you would care to answer, and not throw out random insults…

If this country is so bad and it is obviously causing you distress and a lot of anger, why put up with it?

OK few points here

1. It was not a random insult, it was well intentioned and directed at you. Why, well as I said you where trying to be patronising and perhaps funny, unfortunately you surpassed the first and completely failed at the second.

However let bygones be bygones.

So your question on this country, distress and anger.

I'll split that into 3

1. Countries, we are an amalgamation of separate states that work under pre-defined legislation, some of the countries within that group have more internal autonomy than others, however I will agree externally we work as one collective nation.

2. Distress - this country (see above) was at the start of the 90s one of the most progressive and welcoming countries in the world. Under the Conservative policies of John Major we found a settled middle of the road political system that supported the majority but did not marginalise the minority, later this policy was further enabled by Blair and subsequently Brown (though both have wider questions to answer on WOMD). I think even you would agree the UK felt a greater sense of togetherness, unity and fairness in that period. We also had mass emigration then, however we could house them, simply because England built houses, or had houses previously to use and the NHS was supported. Just a couple of examples however I could give you more over a conversation.

Anger - It is not anger it is disappointment. Disappointment that we have let a rabble line their own pickets through health, through energy and through greed. We have let a rabble use the MSM as a nuclear weapon in the war of twisting minds and warping view. Let them use the age old tactic of divide and conjure to line their own pockets, the Spurs MD recently indidented in Amercica with a billion doller yacht one example however there are plenty more.

Remember this government has taken the Russian Rouble, Chinese Yen and the Saudi (whatever they use) in plentiful and for what. The NHS is a political toy that they cannot solve, house prices are beyond the commen person, England still refuses to build any social housing and what's in the news.

An entitled upper class banker is in a huff because he has been kicked out a bank that 99% of the people of this country cannot join.

Ps

The Gas profits are eh quote "just a one off" 1 billion profit in 6 months ...that's one feck of One Off!!

Apologise for the bad spelling and grammar.

Have a nice weekend.

A lot to unpack in this..

Let’s start with the insults. Simply stop them, no need and this is the last time I will say this.

You have political views that whether I agree with them or not are yours, we could discuss them but not all of them in one large mind dump, that basically comes across as anger.

You pick your top priority, the one that you feel is the most important and let’s discuss that, sensibly

Well now we have moved beyond tuppeny penny comments and insults I'd be more than happy to have a sensible conversations. I assure you disappointment is the only feeling. Though I'm sure we both could agree anger and greed are two very good political motivators.

What do you wish to sensibly discuss?

Down to you, I’m rather opinionated but not generally fussy, I don’t tend to take a party lead and have my own views.

If you need a nudge you could go down your list in order.

You are free to start where ever you wish, I've made my points and said quite a lot (some could say to much) feel free to retort, nudge away.

A little too much work for me, I simply don’t care enough based on what I’ve seen so far to prompt you.

Good luck in the forum"

Here is me thinking after all the replies you cared too.

Enjoy yourself in your next escape.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Only in this we crap island can an entailed eejit get the airwaves of being denied the services of an entitled bank 99% of us cannot join and be the victim.

Only in this country can we take asylum seekers and throw them on a barge 6 to a room, not knowing who or what they are living with and labelling them criminals for fleeing persecution.

Only in this country will we take those same people and threaten to send them to a country where sexual rights are denied and call it "the right thing to do"

Only in this country can 4 Prime Ministers be found to be supporting either their own fears from their party or lining their and their friends pockets.

Only in this country can elected members of state be given free airtime to procrastinate their political message over a charade of an Independants news channels.

For those not sure about how low this country has sunk - if they close your local Co-op in Eng or Wls then you know its because your government has not provided the money to keep your local streets safe.

"

I dont agree and in fact if what you said was actually how it is, can you imagine how bad the rest of the world must be.

Western democracy and the UK in particular is the most benevolent society in the world. Why on earth do you think these economic migrants want to come here.

Its also why nobody will come and arrest you for your criticisms. I bet the Rissians and Chinese wish they were so lucky.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The U.K is by and large a great place to live. We’re very fortunate.

However we have outrageous wealth inequality, homelessness rising year on year. Racism and bigotry is still very much alive and well. Our political and judicial systems are not representative, nor are boardrooms across the country. Our education system is targeted at exam results rather than growth, and the buddy system is still a powerful force in rising to the upper echelons in society or business. We have a society divided most prominently by home ownership vs generation rent, who are now beginning to accept that they’ll never own a home, and instead work to pay off somebody else’s mortgage and fund their lifestyle.

The myth of the U.K as a global superpower persists and will remain for a generation or two more, as will the ‘we won the war’ Nationalism eschewed by an ever decreasing number of knuckledraggers.

Is the UK a bad place to live? No. Is the dramatic room for improvement? God yes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Only in this we crap island can an entailed eejit get the airwaves of being denied the services of an entitled bank 99% of us cannot join and be the victim.

Only in this country can we take asylum seekers and throw them on a barge 6 to a room, not knowing who or what they are living with and labelling them criminals for fleeing persecution.

Only in this country will we take those same people and threaten to send them to a country where sexual rights are denied and call it "the right thing to do"

Only in this country can 4 Prime Ministers be found to be supporting either their own fears from their party or lining their and their friends pockets.

Only in this country can elected members of state be given free airtime to procrastinate their political message over a charade of an Independants news channels.

For those not sure about how low this country has sunk - if they close your local Co-op in Eng or Wls then you know its because your government has not provided the money to keep your local streets safe.

Erm.

I think you need to actually read up on the things you're discussing.

Clearly guardian headlines and byline times articles have affected your ability to think critically."

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By *orleymanMan
over a year ago

Leeds

Only in this we crap island can an entailed eejit get the airwaves of being denied the services of an entitled bank 99% of us cannot join and be the victim.( he was decsriminated against because of his political views and the bank failed massively I gdpr)

Only in this country can we take asylum seekers and throw them on a barge 6 to a room, not knowing who or what they are living with and labelling them criminals for fleeing persecution.( it's 2 to a room, thr barge is one of many facilities, they live in tents in France, they are laying 5k to come across here from France so thus not fleeing persecution)

Only in this country will we take those same people and threaten to send them to a country where sexual rights are denied and call it "the right thing to do"(if they arrive here legally and can prove their sylym genuine, thisnisnt a problem)

Only in this country can 4 Prime Ministers be found to be supporting either their own fears from their party or lining their and their friends pockets.( I'm not sure what "supporting their own fears from their own party means" not sure who lined whose pockets please elaborste)

Only in this country can elected members of state be given free airtime to procrastinate their political message over a charade of an Independants news channels.( so you don't want mps having second jobs. Fine, but this is not just the uk)

For those not sure about how low this country has sunk - if they close your local Co-op in Eng or Wls then you know its because your government has not provided the money to keep your local streets safe( many ships close. I take it you mean theft at co ops has gone up? You might want to look at california and other countries rise in theft and crime in the last decade or so. This would seem a London based problem on the details co op provided? Hopefully khan can sort it.)

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Stop caring about the UK. It is a state construct and means nothing in the grand scheme of things. We prefer to focus our energy on what we can change to make things better for ourselves or family and friends. Worst case scenario we sell up and emmigrate. Nobody owes any nation their loyalty, least of all the UK.

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By *lixerMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

Nothing will change until the UK is broken up and we all get written constitutions for our new nation states.

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham


"Stop caring about the UK. It is a state construct and means nothing in the grand scheme of things. We prefer to focus our energy on what we can change to make things better for ourselves or family and friends. Worst case scenario we sell up and emmigrate. Nobody owes any nation their loyalty, least of all the UK."

This is the conclusion I came to. It’s just a little badly run country in Europe where I happened to be born! It’s permanently broken services & very bleak future prospects cannot be solved, it will decline and decline. There are plenty of really nice places in the world to live and work with much better services, less crime and higher standards of living.

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