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"The shelf life of a lettuce lasts longer than Truss’s as a PM" I see yes, that the shelf life of a lettuce lasts longer, that is fun too  | |||
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"During Truss' premiership, a UK 'newspaper' (I think it was the Daily Star), bought a lettuce and put a picture of it on their front page asking the question "which will be thrown out first, this lettuce, or Liz Truss?". It became quite a talking point in the media." I see yes, so they also did it, that is a fun joke as well | |||
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"The lettuce has cost taxpayers £115,000 +rpi PDCA annually for the rest of her life. Somewhere between £6-8M, not bad for seven weeks ‘work’. " I would vote for anyone proposing Prime Ministers pensions should be in proportion to the number of years they held office like the rest of us. | |||
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"The lettuce has cost taxpayers £115,000 +rpi PDCA annually for the rest of her life. Somewhere between £6-8M, not bad for seven weeks ‘work’. I would vote for anyone proposing Prime Ministers pensions should be in proportion to the number of years they held office like the rest of us. " What are PM's who take us into foreign wars based on lies worth? PM's who are responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands? On your suggestion Blair should get a pretty good pension. | |||
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"The lettuce has cost taxpayers £115,000 +rpi PDCA annually for the rest of her life. Somewhere between £6-8M, not bad for seven weeks ‘work’. I would vote for anyone proposing Prime Ministers pensions should be in proportion to the number of years they held office like the rest of us. What are PM's who take us into foreign wars based on lies worth? PM's who are responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands? On your suggestion Blair should get a pretty good pension." I agree. Blair totally destroyed what might otherwise have been a pretty good legacy. Do you think we should offset good and bad? How do we decide what is classed as good and bad? Have a read of this list... https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/politics/1461844 | |||
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"The lettuce has cost taxpayers £115,000 +rpi PDCA annually for the rest of her life. Somewhere between £6-8M, not bad for seven weeks ‘work’. I would vote for anyone proposing Prime Ministers pensions should be in proportion to the number of years they held office like the rest of us. What are PM's who take us into foreign wars based on lies worth? PM's who are responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands? On your suggestion Blair should get a pretty good pension. I agree. Blair totally destroyed what might otherwise have been a pretty good legacy. Do you think we should offset good and bad? How do we decide what is classed as good and bad? Have a read of this list... https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/politics/1461844" There is no doubt Tony Blair done a lot of good, more than any other in my personal remembrance. However, in the end he turned out like the rest of them. In power for too long and thought he was untouchable. Kier Starmer has the opportunity to gain a majority like Blair did, I hope he steps up to the plate and delivers some real benefits. I personally can't see it right now with his attitude to flip flopping but he's our best shot. I know I regularly say 'if this is better, I don't want it' but even though I don't want it, I can accept he may be our best option atm. | |||
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"The lettuce has cost taxpayers £115,000 +rpi PDCA annually for the rest of her life. Somewhere between £6-8M, not bad for seven weeks ‘work’. I would vote for anyone proposing Prime Ministers pensions should be in proportion to the number of years they held office like the rest of us. What are PM's who take us into foreign wars based on lies worth? PM's who are responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands? On your suggestion Blair should get a pretty good pension. I agree. Blair totally destroyed what might otherwise have been a pretty good legacy. Do you think we should offset good and bad? How do we decide what is classed as good and bad? Have a read of this list... https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/politics/1461844" You present a list as if the items on it are objectively positive. But they are not, they are subjective. There is also an awful lot of "free stuff", which of course isn't free. It has to be paid for through increased taxes, increased borrowing, or increased money printing. Hence we are where we are. Blair was not only a war criminal who caused enormous damage to the UKs reputation abroad, his lax approach to immigration was the direct cause of Brexit, a point that Remainers fail to acknowledge, because they are too busy blaming everyone else for Brexit. I have no doubt that Blair was influential, more so than anyone since Margaret Thatcher. We still have a Blairite government now. A Starmer government would also be a Blairite government. We have had Continuity Blair since 1997 and I suspect that will continue until the collapse of the next government, at which point we are going to see a major shift in ideology as the country nears financial collapse, Net Zero unravels, immigration runs at 1m a year as I am guessing it will under Labour, and we have another deeper popular uprising. | |||
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"The lettuce has cost taxpayers £115,000 +rpi PDCA annually for the rest of her life. Somewhere between £6-8M, not bad for seven weeks ‘work’. I would vote for anyone proposing Prime Ministers pensions should be in proportion to the number of years they held office like the rest of us. What are PM's who take us into foreign wars based on lies worth? PM's who are responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands? On your suggestion Blair should get a pretty good pension. I agree. Blair totally destroyed what might otherwise have been a pretty good legacy. Do you think we should offset good and bad? How do we decide what is classed as good and bad? Have a read of this list... https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/politics/1461844 You present a list as if the items on it are objectively positive. But they are not, they are subjective. There is also an awful lot of "free stuff", which of course isn't free. It has to be paid for through increased taxes, increased borrowing, or increased money printing. Hence we are where we are. Blair was not only a war criminal who caused enormous damage to the UKs reputation abroad, his lax approach to immigration was the direct cause of Brexit, a point that Remainers fail to acknowledge, because they are too busy blaming everyone else for Brexit. I have no doubt that Blair was influential, more so than anyone since Margaret Thatcher. We still have a Blairite government now. A Starmer government would also be a Blairite government. We have had Continuity Blair since 1997 and I suspect that will continue until the collapse of the next government, at which point we are going to see a major shift in ideology as the country nears financial collapse, Net Zero unravels, immigration runs at 1m a year as I am guessing it will under Labour, and we have another deeper popular uprising. " I would say that list is objectively positive (there are some negatives on there too). The economy (and therefore ability to pay for the “free stuff”) did very well too b/w 97-07. If it hadn’t been for the financial crisis it would likely have continued. Not claiming that is all down to Blair/New Labour as the world economy was in a better state generally. | |||
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"The lettuce has cost taxpayers £115,000 +rpi PDCA annually for the rest of her life. Somewhere between £6-8M, not bad for seven weeks ‘work’. I would vote for anyone proposing Prime Ministers pensions should be in proportion to the number of years they held office like the rest of us. What are PM's who take us into foreign wars based on lies worth? PM's who are responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands? On your suggestion Blair should get a pretty good pension. I agree. Blair totally destroyed what might otherwise have been a pretty good legacy. Do you think we should offset good and bad? How do we decide what is classed as good and bad? Have a read of this list... https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/politics/1461844 You present a list as if the items on it are objectively positive. But they are not, they are subjective. There is also an awful lot of "free stuff", which of course isn't free. It has to be paid for through increased taxes, increased borrowing, or increased money printing. Hence we are where we are. Blair was not only a war criminal who caused enormous damage to the UKs reputation abroad, his lax approach to immigration was the direct cause of Brexit, a point that Remainers fail to acknowledge, because they are too busy blaming everyone else for Brexit. I have no doubt that Blair was influential, more so than anyone since Margaret Thatcher. We still have a Blairite government now. A Starmer government would also be a Blairite government. We have had Continuity Blair since 1997 and I suspect that will continue until the collapse of the next government, at which point we are going to see a major shift in ideology as the country nears financial collapse, Net Zero unravels, immigration runs at 1m a year as I am guessing it will under Labour, and we have another deeper popular uprising. I would say that list is objectively positive (there are some negatives on there too). The economy (and therefore ability to pay for the “free stuff”) did very well too b/w 97-07. If it hadn’t been for the financial crisis it would likely have continued. Not claiming that is all down to Blair/New Labour as the world economy was in a better state generally." Living standards in the U.K have declined since 2010. Homelessness has soared beyond imagination. New labour weren’t perfect, but they were the best years overall of the past 40-some years. | |||
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"The lettuce has cost taxpayers £115,000 +rpi PDCA annually for the rest of her life. Somewhere between £6-8M, not bad for seven weeks ‘work’. I would vote for anyone proposing Prime Ministers pensions should be in proportion to the number of years they held office like the rest of us. What are PM's who take us into foreign wars based on lies worth? PM's who are responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands? On your suggestion Blair should get a pretty good pension. I agree. Blair totally destroyed what might otherwise have been a pretty good legacy. Do you think we should offset good and bad? How do we decide what is classed as good and bad? Have a read of this list... https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/politics/1461844 There is no doubt Tony Blair done a lot of good, more than any other in my personal remembrance. However, in the end he turned out like the rest of them. In power for too long and thought he was untouchable. Kier Starmer has the opportunity to gain a majority like Blair did, I hope he steps up to the plate and delivers some real benefits. I personally can't see it right now with his attitude to flip flopping but he's our best shot. I know I regularly say 'if this is better, I don't want it' but even though I don't want it, I can accept he may be our best option atm." I was a supporter of 97 Blair. Not so of 02 Blair. He had charisma though, purpose and drive. I don’t get that from Starmer. I had high hopes after Corbyn but...meh! Flip flop does seem right. I want politicians who passionately believe in their policies rather than simply wanting to be popular. Possibly after the turmoil of the last few years we do just need a steady eddie? It would be nice to see an exponential decrease in govt scandal and have them just getting on with the job of running the country on our behalf rather than their own’ | |||
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"The lettuce has cost taxpayers £115,000 +rpi PDCA annually for the rest of her life. Somewhere between £6-8M, not bad for seven weeks ‘work’. I would vote for anyone proposing Prime Ministers pensions should be in proportion to the number of years they held office like the rest of us. What are PM's who take us into foreign wars based on lies worth? PM's who are responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands? On your suggestion Blair should get a pretty good pension. I agree. Blair totally destroyed what might otherwise have been a pretty good legacy. Do you think we should offset good and bad? How do we decide what is classed as good and bad? Have a read of this list... https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/politics/1461844 There is no doubt Tony Blair done a lot of good, more than any other in my personal remembrance. However, in the end he turned out like the rest of them. In power for too long and thought he was untouchable. Kier Starmer has the opportunity to gain a majority like Blair did, I hope he steps up to the plate and delivers some real benefits. I personally can't see it right now with his attitude to flip flopping but he's our best shot. I know I regularly say 'if this is better, I don't want it' but even though I don't want it, I can accept he may be our best option atm." The problem with the way Bliar fucked the UK is that it has taken about 20 years for the malign effects of his policies to come home to roost. You’ll really feel it wheh you come to retire and your pension is worth a fraction of what it should be because of his/Brown’s raids on your pension pots, not to mention his “reforms” of the NHS that have been an expensive disatser for General Practice. | |||
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"The lettuce has cost taxpayers £115,000 +rpi PDCA annually for the rest of her life. Somewhere between £6-8M, not bad for seven weeks ‘work’. I would vote for anyone proposing Prime Ministers pensions should be in proportion to the number of years they held office like the rest of us. What are PM's who take us into foreign wars based on lies worth? PM's who are responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands? On your suggestion Blair should get a pretty good pension. I agree. Blair totally destroyed what might otherwise have been a pretty good legacy. Do you think we should offset good and bad? How do we decide what is classed as good and bad? Have a read of this list... https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/politics/1461844 There is no doubt Tony Blair done a lot of good, more than any other in my personal remembrance. However, in the end he turned out like the rest of them. In power for too long and thought he was untouchable. Kier Starmer has the opportunity to gain a majority like Blair did, I hope he steps up to the plate and delivers some real benefits. I personally can't see it right now with his attitude to flip flopping but he's our best shot. I know I regularly say 'if this is better, I don't want it' but even though I don't want it, I can accept he may be our best option atm. The problem with the way Bliar fucked the UK is that it has taken about 20 years for the malign effects of his policies to come home to roost. You’ll really feel it wheh you come to retire and your pension is worth a fraction of what it should be because of his/Brown’s raids on your pension pots, not to mention his “reforms” of the NHS that have been an expensive disatser for General Practice. " https://www.channel4.com/news/articles/business_money/factcheck%2Bdid%2Bgordon%2Bdestroy%2Bour%2Bpensions/171020.html | |||
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"The lettuce has cost taxpayers £115,000 +rpi PDCA annually for the rest of her life. Somewhere between £6-8M, not bad for seven weeks ‘work’. I would vote for anyone proposing Prime Ministers pensions should be in proportion to the number of years they held office like the rest of us. What are PM's who take us into foreign wars based on lies worth? PM's who are responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands? On your suggestion Blair should get a pretty good pension. I agree. Blair totally destroyed what might otherwise have been a pretty good legacy. Do you think we should offset good and bad? How do we decide what is classed as good and bad? Have a read of this list... https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/politics/1461844 There is no doubt Tony Blair done a lot of good, more than any other in my personal remembrance. However, in the end he turned out like the rest of them. In power for too long and thought he was untouchable. Kier Starmer has the opportunity to gain a majority like Blair did, I hope he steps up to the plate and delivers some real benefits. I personally can't see it right now with his attitude to flip flopping but he's our best shot. I know I regularly say 'if this is better, I don't want it' but even though I don't want it, I can accept he may be our best option atm. The problem with the way Bliar fucked the UK is that it has taken about 20 years for the malign effects of his policies to come home to roost. You’ll really feel it wheh you come to retire and your pension is worth a fraction of what it should be because of his/Brown’s raids on your pension pots, not to mention his “reforms” of the NHS that have been an expensive disatser for General Practice. https://www.channel4.com/news/articles/business_money/factcheck%2Bdid%2Bgordon%2Bdestroy%2Bour%2Bpensions/171020.html" That link literally says Brown raided pensions 
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"The lettuce has cost taxpayers £115,000 +rpi PDCA annually for the rest of her life. Somewhere between £6-8M, not bad for seven weeks ‘work’. I would vote for anyone proposing Prime Ministers pensions should be in proportion to the number of years they held office like the rest of us. What are PM's who take us into foreign wars based on lies worth? PM's who are responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands? On your suggestion Blair should get a pretty good pension. I agree. Blair totally destroyed what might otherwise have been a pretty good legacy. Do you think we should offset good and bad? How do we decide what is classed as good and bad? Have a read of this list... https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/politics/1461844 There is no doubt Tony Blair done a lot of good, more than any other in my personal remembrance. However, in the end he turned out like the rest of them. In power for too long and thought he was untouchable. Kier Starmer has the opportunity to gain a majority like Blair did, I hope he steps up to the plate and delivers some real benefits. I personally can't see it right now with his attitude to flip flopping but he's our best shot. I know I regularly say 'if this is better, I don't want it' but even though I don't want it, I can accept he may be our best option atm. The problem with the way Bliar fucked the UK is that it has taken about 20 years for the malign effects of his policies to come home to roost. You’ll really feel it wheh you come to retire and your pension is worth a fraction of what it should be because of his/Brown’s raids on your pension pots, not to mention his “reforms” of the NHS that have been an expensive disatser for General Practice. https://www.channel4.com/news/articles/business_money/factcheck%2Bdid%2Bgordon%2Bdestroy%2Bour%2Bpensions/171020.html That link literally says Brown raided pensions
It does also state that the Tories did it in 1993."Did I say that Brown didn’t raid pensions, then? Oh no, that right. I didn’t. I just thought the good people of fabs might want to place the sweeping statement into some context. | |||
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"The lettuce has cost taxpayers £115,000 +rpi PDCA annually for the rest of her life. Somewhere between £6-8M, not bad for seven weeks ‘work’. I would vote for anyone proposing Prime Ministers pensions should be in proportion to the number of years they held office like the rest of us. What are PM's who take us into foreign wars based on lies worth? PM's who are responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands? On your suggestion Blair should get a pretty good pension. I agree. Blair totally destroyed what might otherwise have been a pretty good legacy. Do you think we should offset good and bad? How do we decide what is classed as good and bad? Have a read of this list... https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/politics/1461844 There is no doubt Tony Blair done a lot of good, more than any other in my personal remembrance. However, in the end he turned out like the rest of them. In power for too long and thought he was untouchable. Kier Starmer has the opportunity to gain a majority like Blair did, I hope he steps up to the plate and delivers some real benefits. I personally can't see it right now with his attitude to flip flopping but he's our best shot. I know I regularly say 'if this is better, I don't want it' but even though I don't want it, I can accept he may be our best option atm. The problem with the way Bliar fucked the UK is that it has taken about 20 years for the malign effects of his policies to come home to roost. You’ll really feel it wheh you come to retire and your pension is worth a fraction of what it should be because of his/Brown’s raids on your pension pots, not to mention his “reforms” of the NHS that have been an expensive disatser for General Practice. https://www.channel4.com/news/articles/business_money/factcheck%2Bdid%2Bgordon%2Bdestroy%2Bour%2Bpensions/171020.html That link literally says Brown raided pensions
It does also state that the Tories did it in 1993.
Did I say that Brown didn’t raid pensions, then?
Oh no, that right. I didn’t. I just thought the good people of fabs might want to place the sweeping statement into some context. "You provided a factcheck without any context in reply to that statement. Maybe lose the anger, all I done was provide the context. You see, I can look at things objectively, hence my offering of 'the Tories also done it in 1993' | |||
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"The lettuce has cost taxpayers £115,000 +rpi PDCA annually for the rest of her life. Somewhere between £6-8M, not bad for seven weeks ‘work’. I would vote for anyone proposing Prime Ministers pensions should be in proportion to the number of years they held office like the rest of us. What are PM's who take us into foreign wars based on lies worth? PM's who are responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands? On your suggestion Blair should get a pretty good pension. I agree. Blair totally destroyed what might otherwise have been a pretty good legacy. Do you think we should offset good and bad? How do we decide what is classed as good and bad? Have a read of this list... https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/politics/1461844 There is no doubt Tony Blair done a lot of good, more than any other in my personal remembrance. However, in the end he turned out like the rest of them. In power for too long and thought he was untouchable. Kier Starmer has the opportunity to gain a majority like Blair did, I hope he steps up to the plate and delivers some real benefits. I personally can't see it right now with his attitude to flip flopping but he's our best shot. I know I regularly say 'if this is better, I don't want it' but even though I don't want it, I can accept he may be our best option atm. The problem with the way Bliar fucked the UK is that it has taken about 20 years for the malign effects of his policies to come home to roost. You’ll really feel it wheh you come to retire and your pension is worth a fraction of what it should be because of his/Brown’s raids on your pension pots, not to mention his “reforms” of the NHS that have been an expensive disatser for General Practice. https://www.channel4.com/news/articles/business_money/factcheck%2Bdid%2Bgordon%2Bdestroy%2Bour%2Bpensions/171020.html That link literally says Brown raided pensions
It does also state that the Tories did it in 1993.
Did I say that Brown didn’t raid pensions, then?
Oh no, that right. I didn’t. I just thought the good people of fabs might want to place the sweeping statement into some context.
You provided a factcheck without any context in reply to that statement.
Maybe lose the anger, all I done was provide the context.
You see, I can look at things objectively, hence my offering of 'the Tories also done it in 1993'"I’m far from angry. Stop projecting | |||
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"The lettuce has cost taxpayers £115,000 +rpi PDCA annually for the rest of her life. Somewhere between £6-8M, not bad for seven weeks ‘work’. I would vote for anyone proposing Prime Ministers pensions should be in proportion to the number of years they held office like the rest of us. What are PM's who take us into foreign wars based on lies worth? PM's who are responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands? On your suggestion Blair should get a pretty good pension. I agree. Blair totally destroyed what might otherwise have been a pretty good legacy. Do you think we should offset good and bad? How do we decide what is classed as good and bad? Have a read of this list... https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/politics/1461844 There is no doubt Tony Blair done a lot of good, more than any other in my personal remembrance. However, in the end he turned out like the rest of them. In power for too long and thought he was untouchable. Kier Starmer has the opportunity to gain a majority like Blair did, I hope he steps up to the plate and delivers some real benefits. I personally can't see it right now with his attitude to flip flopping but he's our best shot. I know I regularly say 'if this is better, I don't want it' but even though I don't want it, I can accept he may be our best option atm. The problem with the way Bliar fucked the UK is that it has taken about 20 years for the malign effects of his policies to come home to roost. You’ll really feel it wheh you come to retire and your pension is worth a fraction of what it should be because of his/Brown’s raids on your pension pots, not to mention his “reforms” of the NHS that have been an expensive disatser for General Practice. https://www.channel4.com/news/articles/business_money/factcheck%2Bdid%2Bgordon%2Bdestroy%2Bour%2Bpensions/171020.html That link literally says Brown raided pensions
It does also state that the Tories did it in 1993.
Did I say that Brown didn’t raid pensions, then?
Oh no, that right. I didn’t. I just thought the good people of fabs might want to place the sweeping statement into some context.
You provided a factcheck without any context in reply to that statement.
Maybe lose the anger, all I done was provide the context.
You see, I can look at things objectively, hence my offering of 'the Tories also done it in 1993'
I’m far from angry. Stop projecting "Fair enough, you're not angry. You're just not sure how to project your feelings via text. I'm not sure you'll find many here say I'm angry, feisty maybe but not angry  | |||
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"What a touchy bunch. Us kids need to learn to play nicely or our toys will get taken away "We're a lively bunch
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"What a touchy bunch. Us kids need to learn to play nicely or our toys will get taken away
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"What a touchy bunch. Us kids need to learn to play nicely or our toys will get taken away
We're a lively bunch
Well apart from me, I'm just feisty, sorry 'angry'
With a fetish for big tall horses "Nah, the smaller one your wife sits upon  | |||
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"What a touchy bunch. Us kids need to learn to play nicely or our toys will get taken away
We're a lively bunch
Well apart from me, I'm just feisty, sorry 'angry'
With a fetish for big tall horses
Nah, the smaller one your wife sits upon "She only goes for the big’uns. Size actually does matter no matter what the leftie woke snowflakes have been saying | |||
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"What a touchy bunch. Us kids need to learn to play nicely or our toys will get taken away
We're a lively bunch
Well apart from me, I'm just feisty, sorry 'angry'
With a fetish for big tall horses
Nah, the smaller one your wife sits upon
She only goes for the big’uns. Size actually does matter no matter what the leftie woke snowflakes have been saying "Well that's me fucked then, or not  | |||
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"What a touchy bunch. Us kids need to learn to play nicely or our toys will get taken away
We're a lively bunch
Well apart from me, I'm just feisty, sorry 'angry'
With a fetish for big tall horses
Nah, the smaller one your wife sits upon
She only goes for the big’uns. Size actually does matter no matter what the leftie woke snowflakes have been saying
Well that's me fucked then, or not "She’d probably tell all us squabbling little boys how naughty we are and give us all a spanking...actually I reckon a few MPs would love that! Maybe a new thread = who do you think are the most pervy MPs and why? | |||
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"What a touchy bunch. Us kids need to learn to play nicely or our toys will get taken away
We're a lively bunch
Well apart from me, I'm just feisty, sorry 'angry'
With a fetish for big tall horses
Nah, the smaller one your wife sits upon
She only goes for the big’uns. Size actually does matter no matter what the leftie woke snowflakes have been saying
Well that's me fucked then, or not
She’d probably tell all us squabbling little boys how naughty we are and give us all a spanking...actually I reckon a few MPs would love that! Maybe a new thread = who do you think are the most pervy MPs and why?"Where does she want me?
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"What a touchy bunch. Us kids need to learn to play nicely or our toys will get taken away
We're a lively bunch
Well apart from me, I'm just feisty, sorry 'angry'
With a fetish for big tall horses
Nah, the smaller one your wife sits upon
She only goes for the big’uns. Size actually does matter no matter what the leftie woke snowflakes have been saying
Well that's me fucked then, or not
She’d probably tell all us squabbling little boys how naughty we are and give us all a spanking...actually I reckon a few MPs would love that! Maybe a new thread = who do you think are the most pervy MPs and why?"Well Johnson can’t be in the company of a female without attempting to mount her, so… | |||
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