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""A great statesman..." FFS! Bungling, lying, Bullingdon buffoon. Good riddance (and Dorries too). " Good riddance!!! | |||
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"Admin, this one got accidentally posted in the wrong section. " Technically, he's no longer a politician. I think. I didn't bother reading about him. | |||
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"Admin, this one got accidentally posted in the wrong section. Technically, he's no longer a politician. I think. I didn't bother reading about him. " Nanna, I miss u | |||
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"In his statement he's blaming others and maintaining his innocence. "So no change there. | |||
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"Admin, this one got accidentally posted in the wrong section. Technically, he's no longer a politician. I think. I didn't bother reading about him. Nanna, I miss u " I'm right here, Pickle.  | |||
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"Oh no, anyway." I can hear this meme haha | |||
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"Same as Trump Stabbed in the back " Erm. No. | |||
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"Same as Trump Stabbed in the back "  My, my, what delusions | |||
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"Admin, this one got accidentally posted in the wrong section. " meet requests and parties ? | |||
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"goodbye mr johnson you bungling bull shitting prick,, now lets get the rest of the shower of shit out,," And replace them with a guy who can't define a woman,a guy who refused in the HOC to condemn inciting violence against women,Dianne Abbott,and the old class war wealth/success jealousy circus that bankrupted the country the last time. | |||
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"goodbye mr johnson you bungling bull shitting prick,, now lets get the rest of the shower of shit out,, And replace them with a guy who can't define a woman,a guy who refused in the HOC to condemn inciting violence against women,Dianne Abbott,and the old class war wealth/success jealousy circus that bankrupted the country the last time." ,, who do you want to run the country,, tell me | |||
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"A great statesman but have the remaining brigade hatched revenge?" Lol. Almost thought you were not joking then! | |||
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"have you all worked out yet that they all work for the same side no matter who you vote for " Amen | |||
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"Come on trump 2024 .. he will end what's happening in Ukraine in 48 hours .. the attack on Russia from NATO will be stopped " Putin riding a chariot pulled by unicorns more likely me thinks 
I’m wondering if any on-line bookies will give odds that Trump ends his days in a jail cell, either for war crimes assuming the rank and file Americans vote him back into power (not a ridiculous notion) or he eventually just boxes himself in with his own bullshit!
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"A great statesman but have the remaining brigade hatched revenge?" Why is it not all over the news Tom? (the one time it is)  | |||
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"A great statesman but have the remaining brigade hatched revenge?" He want a great statesman. He was at best a buffoon. | |||
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"A great statesman but have the remaining brigade hatched revenge? He want a great statesman. He was at best a buffoon. " A liar, a cheat, delusional, disconnected, reckless, inconsiderate, lazy, corrupt, inconsistent, arrogant, narcissistic, psychopathic, Machiavellian, dishonest, self-absorbed, disconnected from reality, surrounded by psychophantic followers (MadNad, JRM, 'Sir' Michael Fabricant and 'Sir' Bill Cash) - tosser. | |||
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"Boris really has adopted a disgracefully cavalier attitude to his classical studies . . . Boris sometimes seems affronted when criticised for what amounts to a gross failure of responsibility (and surprised at the same time that he was not appointed Captain of the School for next half): I think he honestly believes that it is churlish of us not to regard him as an exception, one who should be free of the network of obligation which binds everyone else." The more things change......... | |||
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"A great statesman but have the remaining brigade hatched revenge? He want a great statesman. He was at best a buffoon. A liar, a cheat, delusional, disconnected, reckless, inconsiderate, lazy, corrupt, inconsistent, arrogant, narcissistic, psychopathic, Machiavellian, dishonest, self-absorbed, disconnected from reality, surrounded by psychophantic followers (MadNad, JRM, 'Sir' Michael Fabricant and 'Sir' Bill Cash) - tosser." You missed narcissistic! | |||
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"In 1982 his eton housemaster wrote to Johnson's father that Boris really has adopted a disgracefully cavalier attitude to his classical studies . . . Boris sometimes seems affronted when criticised for what amounts to a gross failure of responsibility (and surprised at the same time that he was not appointed Captain of the School for next half): I think he honestly believes that it is churlish of us not to regard him as an exception, one who should be free of the network of obligation which binds everyone else. The more things change........." I’ve never read that before, how apt a description of the man we came to know, long before we were all ‘blessed’ with his cavalier wisdom | |||
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"Sneaking suspicion he isn't finished. Wouldn't surprise me to see him back at some point. " His last paragraph included the phrase: "It is very sad to be leaving parliament - at least for now - but above all I am bewildered and appalled that I can be forced out..." He just forgot to say like Arnie "I'll be back" Good riddance to bad rubbish. | |||
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"Sneaking suspicion he isn't finished. Wouldn't surprise me to see him back at some point. His last paragraph included the phrase: "It is very sad to be leaving parliament - at least for now - but above all I am bewildered and appalled that I can be forced out..." He just forgot to say like Arnie "I'll be back" Good riddance to bad rubbish." Hasta La Vista was how he finished up his final PMQ. | |||
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"Seemed to have Carrie pulling the strings (insisting on a birthday party for him during lockdown for example). That was his undoing." And promoting a sex pest. And lying about sex pest. And breaking his own laws. And being a lair. | |||
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""A great statesman..." FFS! Bungling, lying, Bullingdon buffoon. Good riddance (and Dorries too). " Well said What a Baffoon !!! Trying to do a Trump !!! | |||
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"Seemed to have Carrie pulling the strings (insisting on a birthday party for him during lockdown for example). That was his undoing." Oh come on. You can’t seriously believe that? | |||
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"Seemed to have Carrie pulling the strings (insisting on a birthday party for him during lockdown for example). That was his undoing. And promoting a sex pest. And lying about sex pest. And breaking his own laws. And being a lair. " Frailty, thy name is woman. No, seriously he always was a mendacious self serving POS. | |||
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"A great statesman but have the remaining brigade hatched revenge? He want a great statesman. He was at best a buffoon. A liar, a cheat, delusional, disconnected, reckless, inconsiderate, lazy, corrupt, inconsistent, arrogant, narcissistic, psychopathic, Machiavellian, dishonest, self-absorbed, disconnected from reality, surrounded by psychophantic followers (MadNad, JRM, 'Sir' Michael Fabricant and 'Sir' Bill Cash) - tosser." As are most MPs on all sides plus the coffin Dodgers in the house of Lords. Sickly | |||
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"A great statesman but have the remaining brigade hatched revenge? He want a great statesman. He was at best a buffoon. A liar, a cheat, delusional, disconnected, reckless, inconsiderate, lazy, corrupt, inconsistent, arrogant, narcissistic, psychopathic, Machiavellian, dishonest, self-absorbed, disconnected from reality, surrounded by psychophantic followers (MadNad, JRM, 'Sir' Michael Fabricant and 'Sir' Bill Cash) - tosser. As are most MPs on all sides plus the coffin Dodgers in the house of Lords. Sickly" Most? You know any lost 3 different jobs for lying? Any can’t tell you how many kids they have? Lie about holidays? Miss five cobra meetings? Get 800k loan ? Call black people piccaninies? Really??? | |||
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The fervour over someone so hated is way too much negative energy. Chill out guys, he can't harm you anymore | |||
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"Seemed to have Carrie pulling the strings (insisting on a birthday party for him during lockdown for example). That was his undoing." 
You'll win the next BGT with comedy gold like that. | |||
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"This is absolutely hilarious
The fervour over someone so hated is way too much negative energy. Chill out guys, he can't harm you anymore "His Brexit will continue damaging the country for decades. | |||
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"Thank god hes gone with his girlfriend Mad Nads. In other Countries corrupt officials would be shot." Get knighted heed | |||
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"goodbye mr johnson you bungling bull shitting prick,, now lets get the rest of the shower of shit out,, And replace them with a guy who can't define a woman,a guy who refused in the HOC to condemn inciting violence against women,Dianne Abbott,and the old class war wealth/success jealousy circus that bankrupted the country the last time." Wait til we tell you what’s happened since 2010. | |||
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"This is absolutely hilarious
The fervour over someone so hated is way too much negative energy. Chill out guys, he can't harm you anymore
His Brexit will continue damaging the country for decades. "His Brexit | |||
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"This is absolutely hilarious
The fervour over someone so hated is way too much negative energy. Chill out guys, he can't harm you anymore
His Brexit will continue damaging the country for decades.
His Brexit "So he wasn’t PM who “got it done”? Wasn’t campaigning with lies on a bus? Wasn’t him who voted AGAINST May’s Brexit deal? Then got a worse deal? Lied about borders to NI? Oh yes, he’s responsible. | |||
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"This is absolutely hilarious
The fervour over someone so hated is way too much negative energy. Chill out guys, he can't harm you anymore
His Brexit will continue damaging the country for decades.
His Brexit
So he wasn’t PM who “got it done”? Wasn’t campaigning with lies on a bus?
Wasn’t him who voted AGAINST May’s Brexit deal? Then got a worse deal? Lied about borders to NI? Oh yes, he’s responsible. "As I said, chill
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"This is absolutely hilarious
The fervour over someone so hated is way too much negative energy. Chill out guys, he can't harm you anymore
His Brexit will continue damaging the country for decades.
His Brexit
So he wasn’t PM who “got it done”? Wasn’t campaigning with lies on a bus?
Wasn’t him who voted AGAINST May’s Brexit deal? Then got a worse deal? Lied about borders to NI? Oh yes, he’s responsible.
As I said, chill
It'll do you no good getting so worked up "Phew! That’s ok then. | |||
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"Same as Trump Stabbed in the back " Who stabbed them in the back? What is going on here? | |||
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"A great statesman but have the remaining brigade hatched revenge?" Who are the ‘remaining ‘ brigade? | |||
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"A great statesman but have the remaining brigade hatched revenge? Who are the ‘remaining ‘ brigade? " Once he put “great statesman” you can’t really expect a sensible answer to anything else.  | |||
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"A great statesman but have the remaining brigade hatched revenge? Who are the ‘remaining ‘ brigade? Once he put “great statesman” you can’t really expect a sensible answer to anything else. "True, I have low expectations, but a little more detail would be appreciated | |||
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"A great statesman but have the remaining brigade hatched revenge? Who are the ‘remaining ‘ brigade? Once he put “great statesman” you can’t really expect a sensible answer to anything else.
True, I have low expectations, but a little more detail would be appreciated "Maybe the 41% of those who voted no confidence? Or 72 ministers who resigned under him?  | |||
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"A great statesman but have the remaining brigade hatched revenge? Who are the ‘remaining ‘ brigade? Once he put “great statesman” you can’t really expect a sensible answer to anything else.
True, I have low expectations, but a little more detail would be appreciated
Maybe the 41% of those who voted no confidence? Or 72 ministers who resigned under him? "Or the police who issued him a fine Or the Tory majority privileged committee | |||
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"A great statesman but have the remaining brigade hatched revenge? Who are the ‘remaining ‘ brigade? Once he put “great statesman” you can’t really expect a sensible answer to anything else.
True, I have low expectations, but a little more detail would be appreciated
Maybe the 41% of those who voted no confidence? Or 72 ministers who resigned under him?
Or the police who issued him a fine
Or the Tory majority privileged committee "Or most reasonable people in uk | |||
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"Blames others for him having to resign as an MP, rather than taking reponsibility for his own actions. In his resignation letter, he states "They have still not produced a shred of evidence that I knowingly or recklessly misled the Commons." However, he has declined the opportunity to appeal the Privileges Committee's findings. The man protest too much, methinks !" Exactly…. He had everything on his favour and he knew it. The investigating committee had a Conservative majority. If by chance the committee voted against him, they could still only make recommendations to Parliament and the Conservatives have an 80 seat majority. If perchance he was let down by the above, his own Constituency was (obviously) a Conservative majority and everyone loves Boris right??? Then just to make absolutely sure, he gets top quality legal advice…. FOR FREE. The guy needs to disappear up his own arsehole for the rest of his life and never be allowed anywhere near politics again. | |||
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"Boris will be back at some point. Possibly to rescue and unite the country. He has been ousted for now by people with an Agenda.. " Just like house mold, no doubt he will be back somewhere. First time around he ruined and divided the country, can't see him doing a 180 on that. But who knows. | |||
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"Boris will be back at some point. Possibly to rescue and unite the country. He has been ousted for now by people with an Agenda.. " All he’ll need is another failed zip line promo… | |||
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"Boris will be back at some point. Possibly to rescue and unite the country. He has been ousted for now by people with an Agenda.. Just like house mold, no doubt he will be back somewhere. First time around he ruined and divided the country, can't see him doing a 180 on that. But who knows. " Divided the country ? | |||
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"Boris will be back at some point. Possibly to rescue and unite the country. He has been ousted for now by people with an Agenda.. Just like house mold, no doubt he will be back somewhere. First time around he ruined and divided the country, can't see him doing a 180 on that. But who knows. Divided the country ?" Yes, he did a cracking job of it. "Divide and conquer" | |||
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"Boris will be back at some point. Possibly to rescue and unite the country. He has been ousted for now by people with an Agenda.. Just like house mold, no doubt he will be back somewhere. First time around he ruined and divided the country, can't see him doing a 180 on that. But who knows. Divided the country ? Yes, he did a cracking job of it. "Divide and conquer"" Not sure how he divided .. Please explain | |||
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"Boris will be back at some point. Possibly to rescue and unite the country. He has been ousted for now by people with an Agenda.. Just like house mold, no doubt he will be back somewhere. First time around he ruined and divided the country, can't see him doing a 180 on that. But who knows. Divided the country ? Yes, he did a cracking job of it. "Divide and conquer" Not sure how he divided .. Please explain" You really have no idea? The most obvious example has been Brexit. | |||
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"Boris will be back at some point. Possibly to rescue and unite the country. He has been ousted for now by people with an Agenda.. Just like house mold, no doubt he will be back somewhere. First time around he ruined and divided the country, can't see him doing a 180 on that. But who knows. Divided the country ? Yes, he did a cracking job of it. "Divide and conquer" Not sure how he divided .. Please explain You really have no idea? The most obvious example has been Brexit. " OMG... Delusion | |||
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"Boris will be back at some point. Possibly to rescue and unite the country. He has been ousted for now by people with an Agenda.. Just like house mold, no doubt he will be back somewhere. First time around he ruined and divided the country, can't see him doing a 180 on that. But who knows. Divided the country ? Yes, he did a cracking job of it. "Divide and conquer" Not sure how he divided .. Please explain You really have no idea? The most obvious example has been Brexit. OMG... Delusion " | |||
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"Boris will be back at some point. Possibly to rescue and unite the country. He has been ousted for now by people with an Agenda.. Just like house mold, no doubt he will be back somewhere. First time around he ruined and divided the country, can't see him doing a 180 on that. But who knows. Divided the country ? Yes, he did a cracking job of it. "Divide and conquer" Not sure how he divided .. Please explain You really have no idea? The most obvious example has been Brexit. " Just for the sake of variety, it was Cameron who eventually caved to Tory infighting over Europe, Boris just rode the train in the direction he wanted to get the PM role he’d always coveted. Cameron bailed when the vote went Leave, then May tried several times in vain to get a deal with Boris in her side with the knives and then Boris bullshitted his way over the line. Brexit got almost no scrutiny as the UK was knees deep in Covid and he knew it, smoke and mirrors and the UK is now a very small seat at a very large table. I can bore you all day about EU legislation being transferred as UK laws come Jan 1st 2024 whilst the Tories are infighting over Rees Mogg and his Knighthood or Boris and bullshit; us regular folk are carrying on in the real world! Can’t get a tomato in Asda, it’s Brexit and don’t let anyone else tell you different; poor crops in random location is more Tory bullshit! I agree, BJ will be back, millions the richer and clean as white shirt when Sunak gets trounced at the general; not on my watch with be the Boris opening salvo | |||
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"Boris will be back at some point. Possibly to rescue and unite the country. He has been ousted for now by people with an Agenda.. Just like house mold, no doubt he will be back somewhere. First time around he ruined and divided the country, can't see him doing a 180 on that. But who knows. Divided the country ? Yes, he did a cracking job of it. "Divide and conquer" Not sure how he divided .. Please explain You really have no idea? The most obvious example has been Brexit. Just for the sake of variety, it was Cameron who eventually caved to Tory infighting over Europe, Boris just rode the train in the direction he wanted to get the PM role he’d always coveted. Cameron bailed when the vote went Leave, then May tried several times in vain to get a deal with Boris in her side with the knives and then Boris bullshitted his way over the line. Brexit got almost no scrutiny as the UK was knees deep in Covid and he knew it, smoke and mirrors and the UK is now a very small seat at a very large table. I can bore you all day about EU legislation being transferred as UK laws come Jan 1st 2024 whilst the Tories are infighting over Rees Mogg and his Knighthood or Boris and bullshit; us regular folk are carrying on in the real world! Can’t get a tomato in Asda, it’s Brexit and don’t let anyone else tell you different; poor crops in random location is more Tory bullshit! I agree, BJ will be back, millions the richer and clean as white shirt when Sunak gets trounced at the general; not on my watch with be the Boris opening salvo "For sure. Boris played a major role in Brexit. Not just standing in front of the Bullshit Bus, he campaigned hard to divide British people though Brexit and was very successful. To suggest Boris will unite the nation is just pure fantasy. | |||
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"Boris will be back at some point. Possibly to rescue and unite the country. He has been ousted for now by people with an Agenda.. " I think he very ably trashed and ousted himself, whilst trashing the country. The Covid disaster was his own making and he's trounced off, rather than being accountable, as he's seen the report, before anyone else. He doesn't do truth or accountabilty. | |||
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"Boris will be back at some point. Possibly to rescue and unite the country. He has been ousted for now by people with an Agenda.. I think he very ably trashed and ousted himself, whilst trashing the country. The Covid disaster was his own making and he's trounced off, rather than being accountable, as he's seen the report, before anyone else. He doesn't do truth or accountabilty. " As demonstrated by some of the Tories in this thread, none of that matters to people. They vote for the worst possible humans to be our MPs and leaders regardless of how self serving and narcissistic they are. | |||
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"A great statesman but have the remaining brigade hatched revenge?" Essex Tom - the name probably gives away your loyalties | |||
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"Boris will be back at some point. Possibly to rescue and unite the country. He has been ousted for now by people with an Agenda.. Just like house mold, no doubt he will be back somewhere. First time around he ruined and divided the country, can't see him doing a 180 on that. But who knows. Divided the country ? Yes, he did a cracking job of it. "Divide and conquer" Not sure how he divided .. Please explain You really have no idea? The most obvious example has been Brexit. Just for the sake of variety, it was Cameron who eventually caved to Tory infighting over Europe, Boris just rode the train in the direction he wanted to get the PM role he’d always coveted. Cameron bailed when the vote went Leave, then May tried several times in vain to get a deal with Boris in her side with the knives and then Boris bullshitted his way over the line. Brexit got almost no scrutiny as the UK was knees deep in Covid and he knew it, smoke and mirrors and the UK is now a very small seat at a very large table. I can bore you all day about EU legislation being transferred as UK laws come Jan 1st 2024 whilst the Tories are infighting over Rees Mogg and his Knighthood or Boris and bullshit; us regular folk are carrying on in the real world! Can’t get a tomato in Asda, it’s Brexit and don’t let anyone else tell you different; poor crops in random location is more Tory bullshit! I agree, BJ will be back, millions the richer and clean as white shirt when Sunak gets trounced at the general; not on my watch with be the Boris opening salvo "Try Tesco..lots of tomatoes there today.. | |||
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"Boris will be back at some point. Possibly to rescue and unite the country. He has been ousted for now by people with an Agenda.. I think he very ably trashed and ousted himself, whilst trashing the country. The Covid disaster was his own making and he's trounced off, rather than being accountable, as he's seen the report, before anyone else. He doesn't do truth or accountabilty. As demonstrated by some of the Tories in this thread, none of that matters to people. They vote for the worst possible humans to be our MPs and leaders regardless of how self serving and narcissistic they are." Bizarrely...now that Boris has gone and the chances of a Tory General election win increase.. As they say. A week is a long time in politics | |||
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"Boris will be back at some point. Possibly to rescue and unite the country. He has been ousted for now by people with an Agenda.. I think he very ably trashed and ousted himself, whilst trashing the country. The Covid disaster was his own making and he's trounced off, rather than being accountable, as he's seen the report, before anyone else. He doesn't do truth or accountabilty. As demonstrated by some of the Tories in this thread, none of that matters to people. They vote for the worst possible humans to be our MPs and leaders regardless of how self serving and narcissistic they are. Bizarrely...now that Boris has gone and the chances of a Tory General election win increase.. As they say. A week is a long time in politics " Tories would have won the next GE regardless. In my opinion. | |||
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"Boris will be back at some point. Possibly to rescue and unite the country. He has been ousted for now by people with an Agenda.. I think he very ably trashed and ousted himself, whilst trashing the country. The Covid disaster was his own making and he's trounced off, rather than being accountable, as he's seen the report, before anyone else. He doesn't do truth or accountabilty. As demonstrated by some of the Tories in this thread, none of that matters to people. They vote for the worst possible humans to be our MPs and leaders regardless of how self serving and narcissistic they are. Bizarrely...now that Boris has gone and the chances of a Tory General election win increase.. As they say. A week is a long time in politics Tories would have won the next GE regardless. In my opinion. Really ?. Bold prediction to forecast a Tory win at the next election Really, it's definitely my opinion. I can't see why they wouldn't win again. If that is the case and we apply the fuzzy logic that seems to dominate this topic in the forum, it would indicate that labour are not even slightly better than the tories. Very interesting.. Why would it indicate anything to do with other political parties? As I said the logic on these forums is that for labour to win the next GE they only need to be slightly less shit than the tories, which is basically the same as saying slightly better than the tories, but we know the negative comments are the preferred choice." I see. My opinion isn't that Labour will win if they're slightly better than the Tories. | |||
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"The fact that we’re even considering the possibility of a 2024 lab govt is testament to how bad the current regime is. 80 seat majorities are not overturned in one go. They just aren’t. And yet here we are. We all know 2019 was not normal voting. It was always gonna be closer at the next GE. My point stands - 80 seat majorities are not overturned in one parliament. That’s the measure of just how laughably inept Johnson, Truss and Sunak have been." You're point really doesn't stand, I know you think it does, but you're not looking at the reality of the 2019 vote. Johnson done the job he was elected to. Truss was in power for no time at all and Sunak has not been inept so far. Your bias is blindingly obvious, it's a shame really. | |||
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"The fact that we’re even considering the possibility of a 2024 lab govt is testament to how bad the current regime is. 80 seat majorities are not overturned in one go. They just aren’t. And yet here we are. We all know 2019 was not normal voting. It was always gonna be closer at the next GE. My point stands - 80 seat majorities are not overturned in one parliament. That’s the measure of just how laughably inept Johnson, Truss and Sunak have been. You're point really doesn't stand, I know you think it does, but you're not looking at the reality of the 2019 vote. Johnson done the job he was elected to. Truss was in power for no time at all and Sunak has not been inept so far. Your bias is blindingly obvious, it's a shame really." Sunak has been utterly inept. Just less so than his predecessors. It’s like when we think petrol is cheap because it’s now £1.50 and we’d gotten accustomed to almost £2. | |||
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"The fact that we’re even considering the possibility of a 2024 lab govt is testament to how bad the current regime is. 80 seat majorities are not overturned in one go. They just aren’t. And yet here we are. We all know 2019 was not normal voting. It was always gonna be closer at the next GE. My point stands - 80 seat majorities are not overturned in one parliament. That’s the measure of just how laughably inept Johnson, Truss and Sunak have been. You're point really doesn't stand, I know you think it does, but you're not looking at the reality of the 2019 vote. Johnson done the job he was elected to. Truss was in power for no time at all and Sunak has not been inept so far. Your bias is blindingly obvious, it's a shame really. Sunak has been utterly inept. Just less so than his predecessors. It’s like when we think petrol is cheap because it’s now £1.50 and we’d gotten accustomed to almost £2. " fire away what has he been inept at so far? | |||
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"The fact that we’re even considering the possibility of a 2024 lab govt is testament to how bad the current regime is. 80 seat majorities are not overturned in one go. They just aren’t. And yet here we are. We all know 2019 was not normal voting. It was always gonna be closer at the next GE. My point stands - 80 seat majorities are not overturned in one parliament. That’s the measure of just how laughably inept Johnson, Truss and Sunak have been." We could equally say that majorities of 80 seats are not gained in GE as it would show how laughably inept the opposition was or how brilliant the government was. Which one was it? Or was it people voting in a one off way. I'm curious to know the answer you have | |||
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"The fact that we’re even considering the possibility of a 2024 lab govt is testament to how bad the current regime is. 80 seat majorities are not overturned in one go. They just aren’t. And yet here we are. We all know 2019 was not normal voting. It was always gonna be closer at the next GE. My point stands - 80 seat majorities are not overturned in one parliament. That’s the measure of just how laughably inept Johnson, Truss and Sunak have been. You're point really doesn't stand, I know you think it does, but you're not looking at the reality of the 2019 vote. Johnson done the job he was elected to. Truss was in power for no time at all and Sunak has not been inept so far. Your bias is blindingly obvious, it's a shame really. Sunak has been utterly inept. Just less so than his predecessors. It’s like when we think petrol is cheap because it’s now £1.50 and we’d gotten accustomed to almost £2. fire away what has he been inept at so far?" Cabinet creation - placing bullies like Raab and Williamson in positions of power (Westminster is a small place, everyone knows everything. He’d have been fully aware of the allegations). Failure to deal adequately with those facing legal situations/allegations like François and Rosindell. Failure to connect with the public - as witnessed by personal polling. Reinstating Braverman days after she resigned (correctly) for breaking the misjisterial code. Appalling at PMQ’s - lying as easily as Johnson but without the bombastic delivery, no key strategy or vision for the NHS nor cost of living crisis. Avoidance of questions on both. Refusal to talk with union bosses nor delegate talks to individual MD’s. That’s off the top of my head. I’ll add more as I think of them. | |||
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"The fact that we’re even considering the possibility of a 2024 lab govt is testament to how bad the current regime is. 80 seat majorities are not overturned in one go. They just aren’t. And yet here we are. We all know 2019 was not normal voting. It was always gonna be closer at the next GE. My point stands - 80 seat majorities are not overturned in one parliament. That’s the measure of just how laughably inept Johnson, Truss and Sunak have been. We could equally say that majorities of 80 seats are not gained in GE as it would show how laughably inept the opposition was or how brilliant the government was. Which one was it? Or was it people voting in a one off way. I'm curious to know the answer you have" Cornyn’s labour was arrogant and laughably inept between 2017-2019. I say that as someone who was a labour member. | |||
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"The fact that we’re even considering the possibility of a 2024 lab govt is testament to how bad the current regime is. 80 seat majorities are not overturned in one go. They just aren’t. And yet here we are. We all know 2019 was not normal voting. It was always gonna be closer at the next GE. My point stands - 80 seat majorities are not overturned in one parliament. That’s the measure of just how laughably inept Johnson, Truss and Sunak have been. We could equally say that majorities of 80 seats are not gained in GE as it would show how laughably inept the opposition was or how brilliant the government was. Which one was it? Or was it people voting in a one off way. I'm curious to know the answer you have Cornyn’s labour was arrogant and laughably inept between 2017-2019. I say that as someone who was a labour member." Would you also say that labour seats changed blue as the electorate changed sides to ensure Brexit was not reversed? | |||
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"The fact that we’re even considering the possibility of a 2024 lab govt is testament to how bad the current regime is. 80 seat majorities are not overturned in one go. They just aren’t. And yet here we are. We all know 2019 was not normal voting. It was always gonna be closer at the next GE. My point stands - 80 seat majorities are not overturned in one parliament. That’s the measure of just how laughably inept Johnson, Truss and Sunak have been. You're point really doesn't stand, I know you think it does, but you're not looking at the reality of the 2019 vote. Johnson done the job he was elected to. Truss was in power for no time at all and Sunak has not been inept so far. Your bias is blindingly obvious, it's a shame really. Sunak has been utterly inept. Just less so than his predecessors. It’s like when we think petrol is cheap because it’s now £1.50 and we’d gotten accustomed to almost £2. fire away what has he been inept at so far? Cabinet creation - placing bullies like Raab and Williamson in positions of power (Westminster is a small place, everyone knows everything. He’d have been fully aware of the allegations). Failure to deal adequately with those facing legal situations/allegations like François and Rosindell. Failure to connect with the public - as witnessed by personal polling. Reinstating Braverman days after she resigned (correctly) for breaking the misjisterial code. Appalling at PMQ’s - lying as easily as Johnson but without the bombastic delivery, no key strategy or vision for the NHS nor cost of living crisis. Avoidance of questions on both. Refusal to talk with union bosses nor delegate talks to individual MD’s. That’s off the top of my head. I’ll add more as I think of them." Some of these are in your opinion, some following due process and others show you don't like he can make a decision and stick to it. I wouldn't call that inept, more you don't like what he stands for. | |||
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"The fact that we’re even considering the possibility of a 2024 lab govt is testament to how bad the current regime is. 80 seat majorities are not overturned in one go. They just aren’t. And yet here we are. We all know 2019 was not normal voting. It was always gonna be closer at the next GE. My point stands - 80 seat majorities are not overturned in one parliament. That’s the measure of just how laughably inept Johnson, Truss and Sunak have been. We could equally say that majorities of 80 seats are not gained in GE as it would show how laughably inept the opposition was or how brilliant the government was. Which one was it? Or was it people voting in a one off way. I'm curious to know the answer you have Cornyn’s labour was arrogant and laughably inept between 2017-2019. I say that as someone who was a labour member. Would you also say that labour seats changed blue as the electorate changed sides to ensure Brexit was not reversed? " No, because (and this is something that’s gone largely missed since first reported in 2019) even had Labour backed leave - they’d still have lost those seats because lab-leavers were the minority in every single labour constituency. In simple terms - Labour could have backed leave, lost their remain voters and lost the seats. Or they could have backed remain, lost the leave voters and lost the seats. The defining factor in the 2019 labour performance was Corbyn - this isn’t just my opinion, this is electoral data released after the GE. | |||
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"The fact that we’re even considering the possibility of a 2024 lab govt is testament to how bad the current regime is. 80 seat majorities are not overturned in one go. They just aren’t. And yet here we are. We all know 2019 was not normal voting. It was always gonna be closer at the next GE. My point stands - 80 seat majorities are not overturned in one parliament. That’s the measure of just how laughably inept Johnson, Truss and Sunak have been. You're point really doesn't stand, I know you think it does, but you're not looking at the reality of the 2019 vote. Johnson done the job he was elected to. Truss was in power for no time at all and Sunak has not been inept so far. Your bias is blindingly obvious, it's a shame really. Sunak has been utterly inept. Just less so than his predecessors. It’s like when we think petrol is cheap because it’s now £1.50 and we’d gotten accustomed to almost £2. fire away what has he been inept at so far? Cabinet creation - placing bullies like Raab and Williamson in positions of power (Westminster is a small place, everyone knows everything. He’d have been fully aware of the allegations). Failure to deal adequately with those facing legal situations/allegations like François and Rosindell. Failure to connect with the public - as witnessed by personal polling. Reinstating Braverman days after she resigned (correctly) for breaking the misjisterial code. Appalling at PMQ’s - lying as easily as Johnson but without the bombastic delivery, no key strategy or vision for the NHS nor cost of living crisis. Avoidance of questions on both. Refusal to talk with union bosses nor delegate talks to individual MD’s. That’s off the top of my head. I’ll add more as I think of them. Some of these are in your opinion, some following due process and others show you don't like he can make a decision and stick to it. I wouldn't call that inept, more you don't like what he stands for. " You’re right, I don’t like people standing up for alleged rapists and proven bullies. Do you? And the lack of vision? The inability to connect with the public? The general lackadaisical performance when he’s questioned on just about anything? (And it’s best we don’t get into his financial dealings at this point) | |||
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"Boris will be back at some point. Possibly to rescue and unite the country. He has been ousted for now by people with an Agenda.. I think he very ably trashed and ousted himself, whilst trashing the country. The Covid disaster was his own making and he's trounced off, rather than being accountable, as he's seen the report, before anyone else. He doesn't do truth or accountabilty. As demonstrated by some of the Tories in this thread, none of that matters to people. They vote for the worst possible humans to be our MPs and leaders regardless of how self serving and narcissistic they are. Bizarrely...now that Boris has gone and the chances of a Tory General election win increase.. As they say. A week is a long time in politics Tories would have won the next GE regardless. In my opinion. Really ?. Bold prediction to forecast a Tory win at the next election Really, it's definitely my opinion. I can't see why they wouldn't win again. If that is the case and we apply the fuzzy logic that seems to dominate this topic in the forum, it would indicate that labour are not even slightly better than the tories. Very interesting.. Why would it indicate anything to do with other political parties? As I said the logic on these forums is that for labour to win the next GE they only need to be slightly less shit than the tories, which is basically the same as saying slightly better than the tories, but we know the negative comments are the preferred choice. I see. My opinion isn't that Labour will win if they're slightly better than the Tories. There would need to be a monumental screw up by labour to not win the next GE. They are having a go at messing it up, but they need to try a little harder, maybe SKS could go on a JSO protest and throw orange paint at King Charles....Thant might tip it, just. " I disagree, I can't see any of the core Tory voters defecting anywhere. Plus when the election comes around the Tories will get into gear. They always do. If there was a way to stick a tenner down with you. I would. | |||
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" Tories would have won the next GE regardless. In my opinion." Quite so. We have a selfish and greedy electorate and the tories know that only too well. | |||
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"A great statesman but have the remaining brigade hatched revenge?" Neither. At a push "statesmanship" may extend to his backing of Ukraine, but that may well have been as a distraction from his own problems. He lied and broke many of his own rules. Removed from power by his own party. Jumping before a report by a Tory majority Committee publishes it's findings. All "remain brigade" purged from the Tory party. He is and was fundamentally unsuited to lead any organisation let alone a country. | |||
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"A great statesman but have the remaining brigade hatched revenge? Neither. At a push "statesmanship" may extend to his backing of Ukraine, but that may well have been as a distraction from his own problems. He lied and broke many of his own rules. Removed from power by his own party. Jumping before a report by a Tory majority Committee publishes it's findings. All "remain brigade" purged from the Tory party. He is and was fundamentally unsuited to lead any organisation let alone a country." Ever heard of the self righteous brothers? | |||
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"A great statesman but have the remaining brigade hatched revenge? Neither. At a push "statesmanship" may extend to his backing of Ukraine, but that may well have been as a distraction from his own problems. He lied and broke many of his own rules. Removed from power by his own party. Jumping before a report by a Tory majority Committee publishes it's findings. All "remain brigade" purged from the Tory party. He is and was fundamentally unsuited to lead any organisation let alone a country. Ever heard of the self righteous brothers? " Nope. Thank you for your contribution. | |||
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"A great statesman but have the remaining brigade hatched revenge? Neither. At a push "statesmanship" may extend to his backing of Ukraine, but that may well have been as a distraction from his own problems. He lied and broke many of his own rules. Removed from power by his own party. Jumping before a report by a Tory majority Committee publishes it's findings. All "remain brigade" purged from the Tory party. He is and was fundamentally unsuited to lead any organisation let alone a country. Ever heard of the self righteous brothers? " I reckon he would give em a slap | |||
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"A great statesman but have the remaining brigade hatched revenge? Neither. At a push "statesmanship" may extend to his backing of Ukraine, but that may well have been as a distraction from his own problems. He lied and broke many of his own rules. Removed from power by his own party. Jumping before a report by a Tory majority Committee publishes it's findings. All "remain brigade" purged from the Tory party. He is and was fundamentally unsuited to lead any organisation let alone a country. Ever heard of the self righteous brothers? " No, but I am perplexed by the unconditional loyalty to Boris which still exists. I still hear deluded people saying what a good job he did and how they would have him back in an instant. He certainly knew how to manipulate a following! | |||
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"A great statesman but have the remaining brigade hatched revenge? Neither. At a push "statesmanship" may extend to his backing of Ukraine, but that may well have been as a distraction from his own problems. He lied and broke many of his own rules. Removed from power by his own party. Jumping before a report by a Tory majority Committee publishes it's findings. All "remain brigade" purged from the Tory party. He is and was fundamentally unsuited to lead any organisation let alone a country. Ever heard of the self righteous brothers? No, but I am perplexed by the unconditional loyalty to Boris which still exists. I still hear deluded people saying what a good job he did and how they would have him back in an instant. He certainly knew how to manipulate a following!" Alexander is very good at fooling the foolish | |||
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"Correction: 'Knows' how to manipulate a following. I'm sure we haven't seen the last of him." He is the result of politics as entertainment and charisma, sound bites and put-downs rather than serious and earnest. People also want to believe that there are easy solutions to difficult problems. They have throughout history. It usually involves blaming some group or other for all of society's ills. There is a scene in Outnumbered where the German exchange student thinks BoJo is a comedian. Worth looking up... | |||
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"Well it is great entertainment looking in from across the water. Lis Truss was great fun. It is the ordinary people who loose out all the time, with so called politicians getting elected. Maybe the Lib Dem might hold balance of power at next election. Boris, get Brexit done!" Ironic about truss given today yields went above her budget yields and sunak and hunt are nowhere near the headlines. | |||
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"Well it is great entertainment looking in from across the water. Lis Truss was great fun. It is the ordinary people who loose out all the time, with so called politicians getting elected. Maybe the Lib Dem might hold balance of power at next election. Boris, get Brexit done! Ironic about truss given today yields went above her budget yields and sunak and hunt are nowhere near the headlines." Truss was useless, how long did she last? | |||
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"Well it is great entertainment looking in from across the water. Lis Truss was great fun. It is the ordinary people who loose out all the time, with so called politicians getting elected. Maybe the Lib Dem might hold balance of power at next election. Boris, get Brexit done! Ironic about truss given today yields went above her budget yields and sunak and hunt are nowhere near the headlines. Truss was useless, how long did she last? " It doesn't matter. Yields breached her ( bad budget) impact. Where are the headlines? | |||
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"Well it is great entertainment looking in from across the water. Lis Truss was great fun. It is the ordinary people who loose out all the time, with so called politicians getting elected. Maybe the Lib Dem might hold balance of power at next election. Boris, get Brexit done! Ironic about truss given today yields went above her budget yields and sunak and hunt are nowhere near the headlines. Truss was useless, how long did she last? It doesn't matter. Yields breached her ( bad budget) impact. Where are the headlines? Truss was a pathetic and useless PM, how long did she last? She was ousted on her economic policy the disaster budget. The current sunak budget has now led to bond yields being higher..." was it the level, or the speed (combined with the vicous cycle she had created). | |||
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"Well it is great entertainment looking in from across the water. Lis Truss was great fun. It is the ordinary people who loose out all the time, with so called politicians getting elected. Maybe the Lib Dem might hold balance of power at next election. Boris, get Brexit done! Ironic about truss given today yields went above her budget yields and sunak and hunt are nowhere near the headlines. Truss was useless, how long did she last? It doesn't matter. Yields breached her ( bad budget) impact. Where are the headlines? Truss was a pathetic and useless PM, how long did she last? She was ousted on her economic policy the disaster budget. The current sunak budget has now led to bond yields being higher...was it the level, or the speed (combined with the vicous cycle she had created). " There was no cycle. The bofe intervened. As it should have done earlier. The bofe can intervene now. It's choosing not to. The growth in yield started before the budget was even announced. So we are still at the impasse. Why the headlines for truss budget but not hunts? | |||
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"Well it is great entertainment looking in from across the water. Lis Truss was great fun. It is the ordinary people who loose out all the time, with so called politicians getting elected. Maybe the Lib Dem might hold balance of power at next election. Boris, get Brexit done! Ironic about truss given today yields went above her budget yields and sunak and hunt are nowhere near the headlines. Truss was useless, how long did she last? It doesn't matter. Yields breached her ( bad budget) impact. Where are the headlines? Truss was a pathetic and useless PM, how long did she last? She was ousted on her economic policy the disaster budget. The current sunak budget has now led to bond yields being higher...was it the level, or the speed (combined with the vicous cycle she had created). There was no cycle. The bofe intervened. As it should have done earlier. The bofe can intervene now. It's choosing not to. The growth in yield started before the budget was even announced. So we are still at the impasse. Why the headlines for truss budget but not hunts?" I meant the cycle with the pension schemes. I agree growth has started. But you can pick out the the Truss spike on a graph. That was rapid and not online with the underlying rate. It's taken six months to create the increase she managed in her six weeks. | |||
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"Well it is great entertainment looking in from across the water. Lis Truss was great fun. It is the ordinary people who loose out all the time, with so called politicians getting elected. Maybe the Lib Dem might hold balance of power at next election. Boris, get Brexit done! Ironic about truss given today yields went above her budget yields and sunak and hunt are nowhere near the headlines. Truss was useless, how long did she last? It doesn't matter. Yields breached her ( bad budget) impact. Where are the headlines? Truss was a pathetic and useless PM, how long did she last? She was ousted on her economic policy the disaster budget. The current sunak budget has now led to bond yields being higher...was it the level, or the speed (combined with the vicous cycle she had created). There was no cycle. The bofe intervened. As it should have done earlier. The bofe can intervene now. It's choosing not to. The growth in yield started before the budget was even announced. So we are still at the impasse. Why the headlines for truss budget but not hunts?I meant the cycle with the pension schemes. I agree growth has started. But you can pick out the the Truss spike on a graph. That was rapid and not online with the underlying rate. It's taken six months to create the increase she managed in her six weeks. " You can and you can see when tne bank intervened. Which it should have done by raising the rates higher which the market expected. They grew 1.3% I tje month before hand and spiked 1% afterbudget. As I said at the time. This was the bofe disaster. And bow the bofe has put itself I this position again. But hey ho it cant ossibly be Jeremy fault  | |||
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"Well it is great entertainment looking in from across the water. Lis Truss was great fun. It is the ordinary people who loose out all the time, with so called politicians getting elected. Maybe the Lib Dem might hold balance of power at next election. Boris, get Brexit done! Ironic about truss given today yields went above her budget yields and sunak and hunt are nowhere near the headlines. Truss was useless, how long did she last? It doesn't matter. Yields breached her ( bad budget) impact. Where are the headlines? Truss was a pathetic and useless PM, how long did she last? She was ousted on her economic policy the disaster budget. The current sunak budget has now led to bond yields being higher...was it the level, or the speed (combined with the vicous cycle she had created). There was no cycle. The bofe intervened. As it should have done earlier. The bofe can intervene now. It's choosing not to. The growth in yield started before the budget was even announced. So we are still at the impasse. Why the headlines for truss budget but not hunts?I meant the cycle with the pension schemes. I agree growth has started. But you can pick out the the Truss spike on a graph. That was rapid and not online with the underlying rate. It's taken six months to create the increase she managed in her six weeks. You can and you can see when tne bank intervened. Which it should have done by raising the rates higher which the market expected. They grew 1.3% I tje month before hand and spiked 1% afterbudget. As I said at the time. This was the bofe disaster. And bow the bofe has put itself I this position again. But hey ho it cant ossibly be Jeremy fault "just some are clear, what time frame was that 1pc post budget spike over. | |||
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Who's website or tweet is this coming from?
It's much easier if you just tell us the source.
Truss caused bond yields to spike because the market did not accept her unfunded tax cuts to the wealthy. They did not want UK national debt because it was viewed as too risky. Instant spike in bond yields requiring the BoE to buy back debt and reduce supply to raise the price.
Crisis.
The bond market is now functioning normally.
High inflation is making Gilts, with a fixed surrender value, unattractive. Pension funds are also now less keen to purchase them due to Truss. At the same time, interest rates rise to try to control inflation, making cash deposits more attractive. This is in the control of the BoE.
The Treasury has taken the conventional path of reducing public sector wages in the belief that this will reduce demand and therefore inflation.
As an aside, as inflation is primarily supply driven due to fuel restrictions they would be better off actually collecting the windfall tax and using it to subsidise company energy prices rather than giving the oil industry huge get out clauses."We went over this last time. You don't understand this stuff. You can't even read about trade dea.impact assessments without getting them wrong. Let alone discuss bond markets. And thisnis from me. I saw a tweet they'd reached the levels of truss budget. It's probably says more about you. That you think copy other people's words. Because you're not an original.thinker yourself. You come on and always have to ask for links. Then your end them wrong. Because you do no original reading up yourself The ban of England inaction caused the bond problem because they didn't offer protection, that's what they are there to do. Because they didn't match the usa rate rise. Again, what they are there to do. I would like to see your evidence of pension funds not buying bonds now in June because of a possibly budget put out in September. | |||
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Sunak and hunt useless "Easyuk "The bond market is now functioning normally." | |||
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"So the bond market wasn't functioning normally when truss budget meant yields went to 4.3% but bow again they're at 4.3% it's functioning fine
That's a lot of copium
Who said it was functioning fine’?
Truss and kwartang useless
Sunak and hunt useless
Easyuk
"The bond market is now functioning normally."
Both are useless "What is useless about Sunak and Hunt? Do you have examples of their uselessness that you could share? | |||
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"Well it is great entertainment looking in from across the water. Lis Truss was great fun. It is the ordinary people who loose out all the time, with so called politicians getting elected. Maybe the Lib Dem might hold balance of power at next election. Boris, get Brexit done! Ironic about truss given today yields went above her budget yields and sunak and hunt are nowhere near the headlines. Truss was useless, how long did she last? It doesn't matter. Yields breached her ( bad budget) impact. Where are the headlines? Truss was a pathetic and useless PM, how long did she last? She was ousted on her economic policy the disaster budget. The current sunak budget has now led to bond yields being higher...was it the level, or the speed (combined with the vicous cycle she had created). There was no cycle. The bofe intervened. As it should have done earlier. The bofe can intervene now. It's choosing not to. The growth in yield started before the budget was even announced. So we are still at the impasse. Why the headlines for truss budget but not hunts?I meant the cycle with the pension schemes. I agree growth has started. But you can pick out the the Truss spike on a graph. That was rapid and not online with the underlying rate. It's taken six months to create the increase she managed in her six weeks. You can and you can see when tne bank intervened. Which it should have done by raising the rates higher which the market expected. They grew 1.3% I tje month before hand and spiked 1% afterbudget. As I said at the time. This was the bofe disaster. And bow the bofe has put itself I this position again. But hey ho it cant ossibly be Jeremy fault
Who's website or tweet is this coming from?
It's much easier if you just tell us the source.
Truss caused bond yields to spike because the market did not accept her unfunded tax cuts to the wealthy. They did not want UK national debt because it was viewed as too risky. Instant spike in bond yields requiring the BoE to buy back debt and reduce supply to raise the price.
Crisis.
The bond market is now functioning normally.
High inflation is making Gilts, with a fixed surrender value, unattractive. Pension funds are also now less keen to purchase them due to Truss. At the same time, interest rates rise to try to control inflation, making cash deposits more attractive. This is in the control of the BoE.
The Treasury has taken the conventional path of reducing public sector wages in the belief that this will reduce demand and therefore inflation.
As an aside, as inflation is primarily supply driven due to fuel restrictions they would be better off actually collecting the windfall tax and using it to subsidise company energy prices rather than giving the oil industry huge get out clauses.
We went over this last time. You don't understand this stuff. You can't even read about trade dea.impact assessments without getting them wrong. Let alone discuss bond markets. And thisnis from me. I saw a tweet they'd reached the levels of truss budget.
It's probably says more about you. That you think copy other people's words. Because you're not an original.thinker yourself.
You come on and always have to ask for links. Then your end them wrong. Because you do no original reading up yourself
The ban of England inaction caused the bond problem because they didn't offer protection, that's what they are there to do. Because they didn't match the usa rate rise. Again, what they are there to do.
I would like to see your evidence of pension funds not buying bonds now in June because of a possibly budget put out in September."This is your best? Just state that someone is "wrong" repeatedly and hope that it sticks? You can carry on trying to massage your ego claiming "original thinking" as you wish, I'm really not bothered. The BoE did not "offer protection". To what? Gilt prices? When? With Truss or now? By doing what? What are you trying to explain? How is the BoE's activities controlled by the Treasury anyway? You are repeating what someone else is saying, as usual. Much quicker if you say whom so we know what opinion you are regurgitating. It is not that of the markets and their analysts. It's much easier to see what reconstruction of economics is going on to fit what political narrative. Other than accusations you have been and will be unable to refute anything that I have written about the spike in Gilt yields following the Truss fiscal event and why they have been rising now. Feel free to try though. ...and at the end you ask for links after criticising me for doing so. You are a complete hypocrite.
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That's a lot of copium
Who said it was functioning fine’?
Truss and kwartang useless
Sunak and hunt useless
Easyuk
"The bond market is now functioning normally."
Both are useless
What is useless about Sunak and Hunt? Do you have examples of their uselessness that you could share? "Any examples of them not being useless you could share? Lying about Brexit. Lying about parties. Not solving boats. Not helping the poorest. Not achieved anything | |||
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"So the bond market wasn't functioning normally when truss budget meant yields went to 4.3% but bow again they're at 4.3% it's functioning fine
That's a lot of copium
Who said it was functioning fine’?
Truss and kwartang useless
Sunak and hunt useless
Easyuk
"The bond market is now functioning normally."
Both are useless
What is useless about Sunak and Hunt? Do you have examples of their uselessness that you could share?
Any examples of them not being useless you could share? Lying about Brexit. Lying about parties. Not solving boats. Not helping the poorest. Not achieved anything "I've not claimed anything so no I don't. Going to your examples, they are statements, do you have detail behind them or do expect me to just accept what you say is gospel? | |||
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That's a lot of copium
Who said it was functioning fine’?
Truss and kwartang useless
Sunak and hunt useless
Easyuk
"The bond market is now functioning normally."
Both are useless
What is useless about Sunak and Hunt? Do you have examples of their uselessness that you could share?
Any examples of them not being useless you could share? Lying about Brexit. Lying about parties. Not solving boats. Not helping the poorest. Not achieved anything "They're not exactly examples of 'being useless' | |||
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"So the bond market wasn't functioning normally when truss budget meant yields went to 4.3% but bow again they're at 4.3% it's functioning fine
That's a lot of copium
Who said it was functioning fine’?
Truss and kwartang useless
Sunak and hunt useless
Easyuk
"The bond market is now functioning normally."
Both are useless
What is useless about Sunak and Hunt? Do you have examples of their uselessness that you could share?
Any examples of them not being useless you could share? Lying about Brexit. Lying about parties. Not solving boats. Not helping the poorest. Not achieved anything
They're not exactly examples of 'being useless' "Examples of not achieving is …….useless. How about eat out to spread virus? Useless. Not sacking a bully. Useless. Tax breaks for richer. Useless. Not helping nhs workers. Useless. Backing Johnson. Useless. Being fined for law breaking twice. Useless. Non dom in number 10. Useless | |||
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"So the bond market wasn't functioning normally when truss budget meant yields went to 4.3% but bow again they're at 4.3% it's functioning fine
That's a lot of copium
Who said it was functioning fine’?
Truss and kwartang useless
Sunak and hunt useless
Easyuk
"The bond market is now functioning normally."
Both are useless
What is useless about Sunak and Hunt? Do you have examples of their uselessness that you could share?
Any examples of them not being useless you could share? Lying about Brexit. Lying about parties. Not solving boats. Not helping the poorest. Not achieved anything
They're not exactly examples of 'being useless'
Examples of not achieving is …….useless. How about eat out to spread virus? Useless. Not sacking a bully. Useless. Tax breaks for richer. Useless. Not helping nhs workers. Useless. Backing Johnson. Useless. Being fined for law breaking twice. Useless. Non dom in number 10. Useless "I can hear top of the pops music and the countdown as I read your soundbites
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That's a lot of copium
Who said it was functioning fine’?
Truss and kwartang useless
Sunak and hunt useless
Easyuk
"The bond market is now functioning normally."
Both are useless
What is useless about Sunak and Hunt? Do you have examples of their uselessness that you could share?
Any examples of them not being useless you could share? Lying about Brexit. Lying about parties. Not solving boats. Not helping the poorest. Not achieved anything
They're not exactly examples of 'being useless'
Examples of not achieving is …….useless. How about eat out to spread virus? Useless. Not sacking a bully. Useless. Tax breaks for richer. Useless. Not helping nhs workers. Useless. Backing Johnson. Useless. Being fined for law breaking twice. Useless. Non dom in number 10. Useless "Clearly useful to some. Or is it, as long as you see them as useless = useless? | |||
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"So the bond market wasn't functioning normally when truss budget meant yields went to 4.3% but bow again they're at 4.3% it's functioning fine
That's a lot of copium
Who said it was functioning fine’?
Truss and kwartang useless
Sunak and hunt useless
Easyuk
"The bond market is now functioning normally."
Both are useless
What is useless about Sunak and Hunt? Do you have examples of their uselessness that you could share?
Any examples of them not being useless you could share? Lying about Brexit. Lying about parties. Not solving boats. Not helping the poorest. Not achieved anything
They're not exactly examples of 'being useless'
Examples of not achieving is …….useless. How about eat out to spread virus? Useless. Not sacking a bully. Useless. Tax breaks for richer. Useless. Not helping nhs workers. Useless. Backing Johnson. Useless. Being fined for law breaking twice. Useless. Non dom in number 10. Useless
Clearly useful to some. Or is it, as long as you see them as useless = useless?"Unless anyone can state some useful things they have done or even kept their pledges, policies, not have record number on waiting lists, record number of child poverty, worst performance in G7, not lying about Brexit, not supporting bullies, then …..demonstrably that are useless. | |||
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"So the bond market wasn't functioning normally when truss budget meant yields went to 4.3% but bow again they're at 4.3% it's functioning fine
That's a lot of copium
Who said it was functioning fine’?
Truss and kwartang useless
Sunak and hunt useless
Easyuk
"The bond market is now functioning normally."
Both are useless
What is useless about Sunak and Hunt? Do you have examples of their uselessness that you could share?
Any examples of them not being useless you could share? Lying about Brexit. Lying about parties. Not solving boats. Not helping the poorest. Not achieved anything
They're not exactly examples of 'being useless'
Examples of not achieving is …….useless. How about eat out to spread virus? Useless. Not sacking a bully. Useless. Tax breaks for richer. Useless. Not helping nhs workers. Useless. Backing Johnson. Useless. Being fined for law breaking twice. Useless. Non dom in number 10. Useless
Clearly useful to some. Or is it, as long as you see them as useless = useless?
Unless anyone can state some useful things they have done or even kept their pledges, policies, not have record number on waiting lists, record number of child poverty, worst performance in G7, not lying about Brexit, not supporting bullies, then …..demonstrably that are useless. "What bully did they support? Worst performing in G7, can you tell me the rank of the G7 today? What did they lie about ref Brexit? Record numbers on waiting lists, what is the number how did it rise? Is it a post covid problem, a rise in population problem or an rise in age problem.. What is the problem? Looking forward to your answers | |||
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"So the bond market wasn't functioning normally when truss budget meant yields went to 4.3% but bow again they're at 4.3% it's functioning fine
That's a lot of copium
Who said it was functioning fine’?
Truss and kwartang useless
Sunak and hunt useless
Easyuk
"The bond market is now functioning normally."
Both are useless
What is useless about Sunak and Hunt? Do you have examples of their uselessness that you could share?
Any examples of them not being useless you could share? Lying about Brexit. Lying about parties. Not solving boats. Not helping the poorest. Not achieved anything
They're not exactly examples of 'being useless'
Examples of not achieving is …….useless. How about eat out to spread virus? Useless. Not sacking a bully. Useless. Tax breaks for richer. Useless. Not helping nhs workers. Useless. Backing Johnson. Useless. Being fined for law breaking twice. Useless. Non dom in number 10. Useless
Clearly useful to some. Or is it, as long as you see them as useless = useless?
Unless anyone can state some useful things they have done or even kept their pledges, policies, not have record number on waiting lists, record number of child poverty, worst performance in G7, not lying about Brexit, not supporting bullies, then …..demonstrably that are useless. "No one really needs to. You're entitled to think they're useless, that doesn't actually mean it's true | |||
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"So the bond market wasn't functioning normally when truss budget meant yields went to 4.3% but bow again they're at 4.3% it's functioning fine
That's a lot of copium
Who said it was functioning fine’?
Truss and kwartang useless
Sunak and hunt useless
Easyuk
"The bond market is now functioning normally."
Both are useless
What is useless about Sunak and Hunt? Do you have examples of their uselessness that you could share?
Any examples of them not being useless you could share? Lying about Brexit. Lying about parties. Not solving boats. Not helping the poorest. Not achieved anything
They're not exactly examples of 'being useless'
Examples of not achieving is …….useless. How about eat out to spread virus? Useless. Not sacking a bully. Useless. Tax breaks for richer. Useless. Not helping nhs workers. Useless. Backing Johnson. Useless. Being fined for law breaking twice. Useless. Non dom in number 10. Useless
Clearly useful to some. Or is it, as long as you see them as useless = useless?
Unless anyone can state some useful things they have done or even kept their pledges, policies, not have record number on waiting lists, record number of child poverty, worst performance in G7, not lying about Brexit, not supporting bullies, then …..demonstrably that are useless.
No one really needs to. You're entitled to think they're useless, that doesn't actually mean it's true "They are useless though. We can argue through our respective coloured lenses, but even ardent tories I know have little faith in this mob. Not that they’ll switch to labour, but nobody I speak to thinks the current government is close to competent. | |||
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"Well it is great entertainment looking in from across the water. Lis Truss was great fun. It is the ordinary people who loose out all the time, with so called politicians getting elected. Maybe the Lib Dem might hold balance of power at next election. Boris, get Brexit done! Ironic about truss given today yields went above her budget yields and sunak and hunt are nowhere near the headlines. Truss was useless, how long did she last? It doesn't matter. Yields breached her ( bad budget) impact. Where are the headlines? Truss was a pathetic and useless PM, how long did she last? She was ousted on her economic policy the disaster budget. The current sunak budget has now led to bond yields being higher...was it the level, or the speed (combined with the vicous cycle she had created). There was no cycle. The bofe intervened. As it should have done earlier. The bofe can intervene now. It's choosing not to. The growth in yield started before the budget was even announced. So we are still at the impasse. Why the headlines for truss budget but not hunts?I meant the cycle with the pension schemes. I agree growth has started. But you can pick out the the Truss spike on a graph. That was rapid and not online with the underlying rate. It's taken six months to create the increase she managed in her six weeks. You can and you can see when tne bank intervened. Which it should have done by raising the rates higher which the market expected. They grew 1.3% I tje month before hand and spiked 1% afterbudget. As I said at the time. This was the bofe disaster. And bow the bofe has put itself I this position again. But hey ho it cant ossibly be Jeremy fault
Who's website or tweet is this coming from?
It's much easier if you just tell us the source.
Truss caused bond yields to spike because the market did not accept her unfunded tax cuts to the wealthy. They did not want UK national debt because it was viewed as too risky. Instant spike in bond yields requiring the BoE to buy back debt and reduce supply to raise the price.
Crisis.
The bond market is now functioning normally.
High inflation is making Gilts, with a fixed surrender value, unattractive. Pension funds are also now less keen to purchase them due to Truss. At the same time, interest rates rise to try to control inflation, making cash deposits more attractive. This is in the control of the BoE.
The Treasury has taken the conventional path of reducing public sector wages in the belief that this will reduce demand and therefore inflation.
As an aside, as inflation is primarily supply driven due to fuel restrictions they would be better off actually collecting the windfall tax and using it to subsidise company energy prices rather than giving the oil industry huge get out clauses.
We went over this last time. You don't understand this stuff. You can't even read about trade dea.impact assessments without getting them wrong. Let alone discuss bond markets. And thisnis from me. I saw a tweet they'd reached the levels of truss budget.
It's probably says more about you. That you think copy other people's words. Because you're not an original.thinker yourself.
You come on and always have to ask for links. Then your end them wrong. Because you do no original reading up yourself
The ban of England inaction caused the bond problem because they didn't offer protection, that's what they are there to do. Because they didn't match the usa rate rise. Again, what they are there to do.
I would like to see your evidence of pension funds not buying bonds now in June because of a possibly budget put out in September.
This is your best? Just state that someone is "wrong" repeatedly and hope that it sticks?
You can carry on trying to massage your ego claiming "original thinking" as you wish, I'm really not bothered.
The BoE did not "offer protection". To what? Gilt prices? When? With Truss or now? By doing what? What are you trying to explain? How is the BoE's activities controlled by the Treasury anyway?
You are repeating what someone else is saying, as usual. Much quicker if you say whom so we know what opinion you are regurgitating. It is not that of the markets and their analysts. It's much easier to see what reconstruction of economics is going on to fit what political narrative.
Other than accusations you have been and will be unable to refute anything that I have written about the spike in Gilt yields following the Truss fiscal event and why they have been rising now. Feel free to try though.
...and at the end you ask for links after criticising me for doing so. You are a complete hypocrite.
Schroeders"You realise the bofe purchased those gilts where the institutions couldn't afford the interest tastes right? You know. When people on here were talking about it being a decision that cost 60bn?
So youw ere quoting numbers you had no idea of the relevance of
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