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By *astandFeisty OP   Couple
over a year ago

Bournemouth

Does this mean a slight roll back of the bill?

Whatever it is, should hopefully speed things up and keep most people happy. It's likely gonna piss off the 'racists' though.

"In a move to cut the asylum backlog, the Home Office said in a written statement on Thursday that it would no longer differentiate between people who arrived by irregular means, such as those who crossed the Channel, and other asylum seekers, as had been stipulated in last year’s Nationality and Borders Act."

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields


"Does this mean a slight roll back of the bill?

Whatever it is, should hopefully speed things up and keep most people happy. It's likely gonna piss off the 'racists' though.

"In a move to cut the asylum backlog, the Home Office said in a written statement on Thursday that it would no longer differentiate between people who arrived by irregular means, such as those who crossed the Channel, and other asylum seekers, as had been stipulated in last year’s Nationality and Borders Act.""

If it makes it quicker to process asylum claims, that's a good thing. Get people sorted out and into work, paying taxes, contributing to society.

I'm sceptical that it will actually speed things up. But hopeful.

As for the means by which people arrive. This is only important to certain sections of society.

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"Does this mean a slight roll back of the bill?

Whatever it is, should hopefully speed things up and keep most people happy. It's likely gonna piss off the 'racists' though.

"In a move to cut the asylum backlog, the Home Office said in a written statement on Thursday that it would no longer differentiate between people who arrived by irregular means, such as those who crossed the Channel, and other asylum seekers, as had been stipulated in last year’s Nationality and Borders Act.""

Very strange....

The illegal migration bill, is clear in that it gives powers to not process any request for asylum if a person enters the UK illegally. I'm guessing that will replace this measure when /if, it comes into force.

Very confusing...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Does this mean a slight roll back of the bill?

Whatever it is, should hopefully speed things up and keep most people happy. It's likely gonna piss off the 'racists' though.

"In a move to cut the asylum backlog, the Home Office said in a written statement on Thursday that it would no longer differentiate between people who arrived by irregular means, such as those who crossed the Channel, and other asylum seekers, as had been stipulated in last year’s Nationality and Borders Act."

If it makes it quicker to process asylum claims, that's a good thing. Get people sorted out and into work, paying taxes, contributing to society.

I'm sceptical that it will actually speed things up. But hopeful.

As for the means by which people arrive. This is only important to certain sections of society. "

I can't see how it speeds up anything. Unless we are saying that for some reason those who entered irregulary took longer.

The decision is no suprise to me. It always felt like a pseudo punishment and so I couldn't square with refugee convention.

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By *astandFeisty OP   Couple
over a year ago

Bournemouth


"Does this mean a slight roll back of the bill?

Whatever it is, should hopefully speed things up and keep most people happy. It's likely gonna piss off the 'racists' though.

"In a move to cut the asylum backlog, the Home Office said in a written statement on Thursday that it would no longer differentiate between people who arrived by irregular means, such as those who crossed the Channel, and other asylum seekers, as had been stipulated in last year’s Nationality and Borders Act."

If it makes it quicker to process asylum claims, that's a good thing. Get people sorted out and into work, paying taxes, contributing to society.

I'm sceptical that it will actually speed things up. But hopeful.

As for the means by which people arrive. This is only important to certain sections of society. I can't see how it speeds up anything. Unless we are saying that for some reason those who entered irregulary took longer.

The decision is no suprise to me. It always felt like a pseudo punishment and so I couldn't square with refugee convention. "

I assume the people without documentation are 'put to the back of the queue' and now they're saying that won't be the case.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Does this mean a slight roll back of the bill?

Whatever it is, should hopefully speed things up and keep most people happy. It's likely gonna piss off the 'racists' though.

"In a move to cut the asylum backlog, the Home Office said in a written statement on Thursday that it would no longer differentiate between people who arrived by irregular means, such as those who crossed the Channel, and other asylum seekers, as had been stipulated in last year’s Nationality and Borders Act."

If it makes it quicker to process asylum claims, that's a good thing. Get people sorted out and into work, paying taxes, contributing to society.

I'm sceptical that it will actually speed things up. But hopeful.

As for the means by which people arrive. This is only important to certain sections of society. I can't see how it speeds up anything. Unless we are saying that for some reason those who entered irregulary took longer.

The decision is no suprise to me. It always felt like a pseudo punishment and so I couldn't square with refugee convention.

I assume the people without documentation are 'put to the back of the queue' and now they're saying that won't be the case."

not sure how that makes the queue quicker to get through. Not how many in the queue have come in through regular means.

Imo, it's BS spin to justify the unturn.

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By *astandFeisty OP   Couple
over a year ago

Bournemouth


"Does this mean a slight roll back of the bill?

Whatever it is, should hopefully speed things up and keep most people happy. It's likely gonna piss off the 'racists' though.

"In a move to cut the asylum backlog, the Home Office said in a written statement on Thursday that it would no longer differentiate between people who arrived by irregular means, such as those who crossed the Channel, and other asylum seekers, as had been stipulated in last year’s Nationality and Borders Act."

If it makes it quicker to process asylum claims, that's a good thing. Get people sorted out and into work, paying taxes, contributing to society.

I'm sceptical that it will actually speed things up. But hopeful.

As for the means by which people arrive. This is only important to certain sections of society. I can't see how it speeds up anything. Unless we are saying that for some reason those who entered irregulary took longer.

The decision is no suprise to me. It always felt like a pseudo punishment and so I couldn't square with refugee convention.

I assume the people without documentation are 'put to the back of the queue' and now they're saying that won't be the case.not sure how that makes the queue quicker to get through. Not how many in the queue have come in through regular means.

Imo, it's BS spin to justify the unturn. "

Maybe it is bullshit. The proof will be in the pudding as they say. Let's see if we start to process quicker moving forward.

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By *eroy1000Man
over a year ago

milton keynes


"Does this mean a slight roll back of the bill?

Whatever it is, should hopefully speed things up and keep most people happy. It's likely gonna piss off the 'racists' though.

"In a move to cut the asylum backlog, the Home Office said in a written statement on Thursday that it would no longer differentiate between people who arrived by irregular means, such as those who crossed the Channel, and other asylum seekers, as had been stipulated in last year’s Nationality and Borders Act.""

Is this the proposed rule that says if you arrive by illegal means then you will automatically be rejected and banned from applying in the future? Has that bit been binned?

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By *astandFeisty OP   Couple
over a year ago

Bournemouth


"Does this mean a slight roll back of the bill?

Whatever it is, should hopefully speed things up and keep most people happy. It's likely gonna piss off the 'racists' though.

"In a move to cut the asylum backlog, the Home Office said in a written statement on Thursday that it would no longer differentiate between people who arrived by irregular means, such as those who crossed the Channel, and other asylum seekers, as had been stipulated in last year’s Nationality and Borders Act."

Is this the proposed rule that says if you arrive by illegal means then you will automatically be rejected and banned from applying in the future? Has that bit been binned? "

Honestly, no idea.

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"Does this mean a slight roll back of the bill?

Whatever it is, should hopefully speed things up and keep most people happy. It's likely gonna piss off the 'racists' though.

"In a move to cut the asylum backlog, the Home Office said in a written statement on Thursday that it would no longer differentiate between people who arrived by irregular means, such as those who crossed the Channel, and other asylum seekers, as had been stipulated in last year’s Nationality and Borders Act."

Is this the proposed rule that says if you arrive by illegal means then you will automatically be rejected and banned from applying in the future? Has that bit been binned? "

That is part of the new illegal migration bill. It has yet to pass the Lords but is on its way through now, I am assuming if passed into law this will then be scrapped as anyone crossing by boat will not be granted any access.

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By *oubleswing2019Man
over a year ago

Colchester


"as anyone crossing by boat will not be granted any access."

Bit of a concern for anyone taking a day trip to Calais on the Ferry for a bit of shopping at the hypermarket. I think they might be miffed if they were not allowed back in. Mind you, ferries aren't exactly small boats, I suppose. Plus passports I guess. But if it says "Coming in by boat to the UK", then that means everyone. Letter of the law

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"as anyone crossing by boat will not be granted any access.

Bit of a concern for anyone taking a day trip to Calais on the Ferry for a bit of shopping at the hypermarket. I think they might be miffed if they were not allowed back in. Mind you, ferries aren't exactly small boats, I suppose. Plus passports I guess. But if it says "Coming in by boat to the UK", then that means everyone. Letter of the law "

oooh someone took an extra dose of pedantry today with their breakfast

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Does this mean a slight roll back of the bill?

Whatever it is, should hopefully speed things up and keep most people happy. It's likely gonna piss off the 'racists' though.

"In a move to cut the asylum backlog, the Home Office said in a written statement on Thursday that it would no longer differentiate between people who arrived by irregular means, such as those who crossed the Channel, and other asylum seekers, as had been stipulated in last year’s Nationality and Borders Act."

If it makes it quicker to process asylum claims, that's a good thing. Get people sorted out and into work, paying taxes, contributing to society.

I'm sceptical that it will actually speed things up. But hopeful.

As for the means by which people arrive. This is only important to certain sections of society. I can't see how it speeds up anything. Unless we are saying that for some reason those who entered irregulary took longer.

The decision is no suprise to me. It always felt like a pseudo punishment and so I couldn't square with refugee convention.

I assume the people without documentation are 'put to the back of the queue' and now they're saying that won't be the case.not sure how that makes the queue quicker to get through. Not how many in the queue have come in through regular means.

Imo, it's BS spin to justify the unturn.

Maybe it is bullshit. The proof will be in the pudding as they say. Let's see if we start to process quicker moving forward."

the flip side is that the government had been taking an approach that slowed the queue!!

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields


"Does this mean a slight roll back of the bill?

Whatever it is, should hopefully speed things up and keep most people happy. It's likely gonna piss off the 'racists' though.

"In a move to cut the asylum backlog, the Home Office said in a written statement on Thursday that it would no longer differentiate between people who arrived by irregular means, such as those who crossed the Channel, and other asylum seekers, as had been stipulated in last year’s Nationality and Borders Act."

If it makes it quicker to process asylum claims, that's a good thing. Get people sorted out and into work, paying taxes, contributing to society.

I'm sceptical that it will actually speed things up. But hopeful.

As for the means by which people arrive. This is only important to certain sections of society. I can't see how it speeds up anything. Unless we are saying that for some reason those who entered irregulary took longer.

The decision is no suprise to me. It always felt like a pseudo punishment and so I couldn't square with refugee convention.

I assume the people without documentation are 'put to the back of the queue' and now they're saying that won't be the case.not sure how that makes the queue quicker to get through. Not how many in the queue have come in through regular means.

Imo, it's BS spin to justify the unturn.

Maybe it is bullshit. The proof will be in the pudding as they say. Let's see if we start to process quicker moving forward.the flip side is that the government had been taking an approach that slowed the queue!!"

That's the really strange thing.

The Tories usually try to exasperate any issues around immigration.

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By *oubleswing2019Man
over a year ago

Colchester


"oooh someone took an extra dose of pedantry today with their breakfast "

Yup. There is a Kafkaesque pleasure seeing Governments squirm passing Byzantine Laws and then discovering the law of unintended consequences. It's probably more schadenfreude than pedantry. Not that I have anything against pedantry, and I find it quite refreshing and honest, compared to general sloppiness and laziness.

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By *amish SMan
over a year ago

Eastleigh

Sounds like we are going to align border entry conditions to those that can be found in many other countries around the world.

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By *idnight RamblerMan
over a year ago

Pershore

Well something needs doing. It's a bit gormless to be sitting around doing nothing for decades whilst our borders are violated, no?

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