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"The Brexiteers will surely spin the Atlantic declaration as a fully fledged trade deal and talk up the benefits of Brexit. Let's face it they need something. It's gone beyond embarrassing at this stage. Spin it brexiteers!" Nope. It's not an fta. Got any proof any brexiteers are trying to do that? Brexiteers are smart enough to read and know what an fta is. | |||
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"Biden probably just thought he was speaking to the Indian Prime Minister. Or the waiter was being a bit pushy. At least he didn't fall over I suppose." | |||
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"The Brexiteers will surely spin the Atlantic declaration as a fully fledged trade deal and talk up the benefits of Brexit. Let's face it they need something. It's gone beyond embarrassing at this stage. Spin it brexiteers! Nope. It's not an fta. Got any proof any brexiteers are trying to do that? Brexiteers are smart enough to read and know what an fta is. " Yes I know its not a FTA. I'm watching for the spin from the brexiteers to over sell what it actually is. Nothing! | |||
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"The Brexiteers will surely spin the Atlantic declaration as a fully fledged trade deal and talk up the benefits of Brexit. Let's face it they need something. It's gone beyond embarrassing at this stage. Spin it brexiteers! Nope. It's not an fta. Got any proof any brexiteers are trying to do that? Brexiteers are smart enough to read and know what an fta is. Yes I know its not a FTA. I'm watching for the spin from the brexiteers to over sell what it actually is. Nothing!" If its nothing...seems like rishi going there was pointless and American diplomatic and investment teams wasted their time. | |||
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"The Brexiteers will surely spin the Atlantic declaration as a fully fledged trade deal and talk up the benefits of Brexit. Let's face it they need something. It's gone beyond embarrassing at this stage. Spin it brexiteers!" Lots of committees and working groups. British defence companies being treated as domestic US ones? Although many of them already have dispensation. UK minerals used in EVs not treated as "foreign" could be significant. Not sure there's much else substatntive. Really it's a reward for the Windsor Framework being agreed. It's certainly positive rather than negative. | |||
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"It sounds a pretty hollow deal, more for PR than anything else. The defence content serves US interests more than the UK. The absence of a trade deal shows the Biden administration has no interest in closer US-UK trade ties. Perversely, UK interests would be far better served under a Trump administration." Under any other. As this Biden one has stopped al trade negotiations | |||
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"The absence of a trade deal shows the Biden administration has no interest in closer US-UK trade ties." Biden believes that he's Irish, and therefore he hates the British, going so far as to refuse to speak to the BBC. There was never any prospect of getting a trade deal while Biden was president. Reading the news closely it's clear that the things announced aren't actually deals, they're just commitments to consider deals. Even then, I'm amazed that Sunak managed to get anything at all. | |||
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"The absence of a trade deal shows the Biden administration has no interest in closer US-UK trade ties. Biden believes that he's Irish, and therefore he hates the British, going so far as to refuse to speak to the BBC. There was never any prospect of getting a trade deal while Biden was president. Reading the news closely it's clear that the things announced aren't actually deals, they're just commitments to consider deals. Even then, I'm amazed that Sunak managed to get anything at all." I blame brexit | |||
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"The absence of a trade deal shows the Biden administration has no interest in closer US-UK trade ties. Biden believes that he's Irish, and therefore he hates the British, going so far as to refuse to speak to the BBC. There was never any prospect of getting a trade deal while Biden was president. Reading the news closely it's clear that the things announced aren't actually deals, they're just commitments to consider deals. Even then, I'm amazed that Sunak managed to get anything at all." "Hates" the British seems rather strong. What has he done to actively harm the UK? Other than that, yes, mainly just talking about agreements. They have made a big thing of it to pay Sunak on the head for the Windsor Framework deal with the EU. It, at least sets a positive tone and we need major allies as the world starts to fragment again and great powers geopolitics gets more belligerent. We are not one of those great powers anymore. | |||
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"It sounds a pretty hollow deal, more for PR than anything else. The defence content serves US interests more than the UK. The absence of a trade deal shows the Biden administration has no interest in closer US-UK trade ties. Perversely, UK interests would be far better served under a Trump administration. Under any other. As this Biden one has stopped al trade negotiations" Obama did warn us  | |||
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"Biden believes that he's Irish, and therefore he hates the British, going so far as to refuse to speak to the BBC. There was never any prospect of getting a trade deal while Biden was president. Reading the news closely it's clear that the things announced aren't actually deals, they're just commitments to consider deals. Even then, I'm amazed that Sunak managed to get anything at all." ""Hates" the British seems rather strong." Possibly, but what word better describes the sort of animosity that drives a man to put his own job at risk, just to get back at a country that oppressed his distant ancestors? "What has he done to actively harm the UK?" It could be said that his meddling in Northern Ireland affairs has harmed Britain. But I agree that he hasn't actually set out to overtly punish the UK. Having said that, I think it's possible to hate someone without attempting to actively harm them. But we agree that this announcement is good to hear, but it doesn't really amount to anything. Watching the press conference last night it was clear to me that the White House is no longer attempting to hide Biden's frailty, and I don't expect that he'll be in position for very much longer. Let's hope the next incumbent will be more amenable to trade talks. | |||
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"Biden believes that he's Irish, and therefore he hates the British, going so far as to refuse to speak to the BBC. There was never any prospect of getting a trade deal while Biden was president. Reading the news closely it's clear that the things announced aren't actually deals, they're just commitments to consider deals. Even then, I'm amazed that Sunak managed to get anything at all. "Hates" the British seems rather strong. Possibly, but what word better describes the sort of animosity that drives a man to put his own job at risk, just to get back at a country that oppressed his distant ancestors? What has he done to actively harm the UK? It could be said that his meddling in Northern Ireland affairs has harmed Britain. But I agree that he hasn't actually set out to overtly punish the UK. Having said that, I think it's possible to hate someone without attempting to actively harm them. But we agree that this announcement is good to hear, but it doesn't really amount to anything. Watching the press conference last night it was clear to me that the White House is no longer attempting to hide Biden's frailty, and I don't expect that he'll be in position for very much longer. Let's hope the next incumbent will be more amenable to trade talks." Maybe Biden just ‘hates’ this current government rather than the UK as a country | |||
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"Biden believes that he's Irish, and therefore he hates the British, going so far as to refuse to speak to the BBC. There was never any prospect of getting a trade deal while Biden was president. Reading the news closely it's clear that the things announced aren't actually deals, they're just commitments to consider deals. Even then, I'm amazed that Sunak managed to get anything at all. "Hates" the British seems rather strong. Possibly, but what word better describes the sort of animosity that drives a man to put his own job at risk, just to get back at a country that oppressed his distant ancestors? What has he done to actively harm the UK? It could be said that his meddling in Northern Ireland affairs has harmed Britain. But I agree that he hasn't actually set out to overtly punish the UK. Having said that, I think it's possible to hate someone without attempting to actively harm them. But we agree that this announcement is good to hear, but it doesn't really amount to anything. Watching the press conference last night it was clear to me that the White House is no longer attempting to hide Biden's frailty, and I don't expect that he'll be in position for very much longer. Let's hope the next incumbent will be more amenable to trade talks. Maybe Biden just ‘hates’ this current government rather than the UK as a country "Go to Scranton as a Brit test your assumptions out.  | |||
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"Biden believes that he's Irish, and therefore he hates the British, going so far as to refuse to speak to the BBC. There was never any prospect of getting a trade deal while Biden was president. Reading the news closely it's clear that the things announced aren't actually deals, they're just commitments to consider deals. Even then, I'm amazed that Sunak managed to get anything at all. "Hates" the British seems rather strong. Possibly, but what word better describes the sort of animosity that drives a man to put his own job at risk, just to get back at a country that oppressed his distant ancestors? What has he done to actively harm the UK? It could be said that his meddling in Northern Ireland affairs has harmed Britain. But I agree that he hasn't actually set out to overtly punish the UK. Having said that, I think it's possible to hate someone without attempting to actively harm them. But we agree that this announcement is good to hear, but it doesn't really amount to anything. Watching the press conference last night it was clear to me that the White House is no longer attempting to hide Biden's frailty, and I don't expect that he'll be in position for very much longer. Let's hope the next incumbent will be more amenable to trade talks. Maybe Biden just ‘hates’ this current government rather than the UK as a country Go to Scranton as a Brit test your assumptions out. "No thanks | |||
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"Biden believes that he's Irish, and therefore he hates the British, going so far as to refuse to speak to the BBC. There was never any prospect of getting a trade deal while Biden was president. Reading the news closely it's clear that the things announced aren't actually deals, they're just commitments to consider deals. Even then, I'm amazed that Sunak managed to get anything at all. "Hates" the British seems rather strong. Possibly, but what word better describes the sort of animosity that drives a man to put his own job at risk, just to get back at a country that oppressed his distant ancestors? What has he done to actively harm the UK? It could be said that his meddling in Northern Ireland affairs has harmed Britain. But I agree that he hasn't actually set out to overtly punish the UK. Having said that, I think it's possible to hate someone without attempting to actively harm them. But we agree that this announcement is good to hear, but it doesn't really amount to anything. Watching the press conference last night it was clear to me that the White House is no longer attempting to hide Biden's frailty, and I don't expect that he'll be in position for very much longer. Let's hope the next incumbent will be more amenable to trade talks." How did Biden "put his own job at risk". What did he do to "get back at us"? Biden's public sharpness does not look great, but he seems to be actually achieving some pretty big things. Could he do continue over another term is another question. I don't think that the US is particularly interested in any trade deals. The focus is on containing China and Russia and building coalitions. Nothing will happen in trade except on their own terms which will certainly mean an even big hammering of our agriculture and food sectors and likely healthcare. | |||
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"Are we talking about Joe 'Irish' Biden, the fella who is more British than he is Irish? "He took Winston Churchill's bust out of the oval office and one of his favorite heros is wolf tone. I think with those actions he dislikes the British. | |||
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"Are we talking about Joe 'Irish' Biden, the fella who is more British than he is Irish? He took Winston Churchill's bust out of the oval office and one of his favorite heros is wolf tone. I think with those actions he dislikes the British."Maybe he just disliked Winston Churchill ? | |||
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"Are we talking about Joe 'Irish' Biden, the fella who is more British than he is Irish? He took Winston Churchill's bust out of the oval office and one of his favorite heros is wolf tone. I think with those actions he dislikes the British.
Maybe he just disliked Winston Churchill ? "Wolfe tone is a Irish revolutionary. | |||
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"Are we talking about Joe 'Irish' Biden, the fella who is more British than he is Irish? He took Winston Churchill's bust out of the oval office and one of his favorite heros is wolf tone. I think with those actions he dislikes the British.
Maybe he just disliked Winston Churchill ? Wolfe tone is a Irish revolutionary."And? Biden ancestry is Irish | |||
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"Are we talking about Joe 'Irish' Biden, the fella who is more British than he is Irish? He took Winston Churchill's bust out of the oval office and one of his favorite heros is wolf tone. I think with those actions he dislikes the British.
Maybe he just disliked Winston Churchill ? Wolfe tone is a Irish revolutionary.
And? Biden ancestry is Irish "and hence the dislike for Brits. | |||
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"Are we talking about Joe 'Irish' Biden, the fella who is more British than he is Irish? He took Winston Churchill's bust out of the oval office and one of his favorite heros is wolf tone. I think with those actions he dislikes the British.
Maybe he just disliked Winston Churchill ? Wolfe tone is a Irish revolutionary.
And? Biden ancestry is Irish and hence the dislike for Brits."He likes someone doesn’t mean he dislikes something else, I don’t like Trump (although I do feel Sorry for him) does that mean I hate the USA? | |||
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"Are we talking about Joe 'Irish' Biden, the fella who is more British than he is Irish? He took Winston Churchill's bust out of the oval office and one of his favorite heros is wolf tone. I think with those actions he dislikes the British.
Maybe he just disliked Winston Churchill ? Wolfe tone is a Irish revolutionary.
And? Biden ancestry is Irish and hence the dislike for Brits.
He likes someone doesn’t mean he dislikes something else, I don’t like Trump (although I do feel
Sorry for him) does that mean I hate the USA? "You do hate the US  | |||
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"He likes someone doesn’t mean he dislikes something else, I don’t like Trump (although I do feel Sorry for him) does that mean I hate the USA?" Biden has said, on camera, that he wouldn't speak to the BBC, because he's Irish. For me, that tells me that he doesn't like the British. | |||
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"Are we talking about Joe 'Irish' Biden, the fella who is more British than he is Irish? He took Winston Churchill's bust out of the oval office and one of his favorite heros is wolf tone. I think with those actions he dislikes the British.
Maybe he just disliked Winston Churchill ? Wolfe tone is a Irish revolutionary.
And? Biden ancestry is Irish and hence the dislike for Brits.
He likes someone doesn’t mean he dislikes something else, I don’t like Trump (although I do feel
Sorry for him) does that mean I hate the USA? You do hate the US "No I don’t, I dislike some of the idiots who live there but as I get older I feel pity not hatred towards them | |||
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"He likes someone doesn’t mean he dislikes something else, I don’t like Trump (although I do feel Sorry for him) does that mean I hate the USA? Biden has said, on camera, that he wouldn't speak to the BBC, because he's Irish. For me, that tells me that he doesn't like the British." Maybe he just doesn’t like the BBC, plenty of people in Britain don’t like the BBC , do they hate Britain | |||
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"He likes someone doesn’t mean he dislikes something else, I don’t like Trump (although I do feel Sorry for him) does that mean I hate the USA? Biden has said, on camera, that he wouldn't speak to the BBC, because he's Irish. For me, that tells me that he doesn't like the British. Maybe he just doesn’t like the BBC, plenty of people in Britain don’t like the BBC , do they hate Britain "Biden is a sitting president with Irish heritage. He is not British now is he? The first B in BBC doesn't stand for Brexit now does it. | |||
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"He likes someone doesn’t mean he dislikes something else, I don’t like Trump (although I do feel Sorry for him) does that mean I hate the USA? Biden has said, on camera, that he wouldn't speak to the BBC, because he's Irish. For me, that tells me that he doesn't like the British. Maybe he just doesn’t like the BBC, plenty of people in Britain don’t like the BBC , do they hate Britain Biden is a sitting president with Irish heritage. He is not British now is he? The first B in BBC doesn't stand for Brexit now does it."I have literally no idea what you’re on about, there are plenty of people in Britain who hate the BBC, what does this mean? | |||
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"How did Biden "put his own job at risk"." There are lots of voters in the US, and lots of members of the Democratic Party that are very unhappy at Biden's stance. Trade deals are always good for both sides, and his refusal to even start talks isn't helping the US to increase its exports. It's made worse by the fact that he keeps bringing up Ireland in all discussions that involve the UK. Lots of people are wondering why they should vote for a man that seems to be more interested in improving Ireland rather than improving the US. "What did he do to "get back at us"?" As I've said, stopping trade negotiations, and insisting on interfering in negotiations in Northern Ireland. "Biden's public sharpness does not look great, but he seems to be actually achieving some pretty big things." I don't want to argue on this point, but what do you see as a big thing that Biden has achieved? | |||
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"Maybe he just doesn’t like the BBC, plenty of people in Britain don’t like the BBC , do they hate Britain" But if you ask the people in the UK that don't like the BBC for an interview, they'll say "no, I don't like the BBC". When Biden was asked, he replied "no, I'm Irish". | |||
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"Maybe he just doesn’t like the BBC, plenty of people in Britain don’t like the BBC , do they hate Britain But if you ask the people in the UK that don't like the BBC for an interview, they'll say "no, I don't like the BBC". When Biden was asked, he replied "no, I'm Irish"." Would they? Maybe he was having a little joke, do you like the BBC? | |||
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"Maybe he just doesn’t like the BBC, plenty of people in Britain don’t like the BBC , do they hate Britain But if you ask the people in the UK that don't like the BBC for an interview, they'll say "no, I don't like the BBC". When Biden was asked, he replied "no, I'm Irish"." Scranton is a Irish stronghold Biden never liked the Brits. If he caved on trade talks that county in a swing state would put his reelection in jeopardy. He is following his Irish heritage. It's not rocket science to figure that out. | |||
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"Maybe the “B” in BBC stands for Bickering?" I think that might be how one individual will see the letter BBC Bickering By Choice | |||
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"Maybe he just doesn’t like the BBC, plenty of people in Britain don’t like the BBC , do they hate Britain But if you ask the people in the UK that don't like the BBC for an interview, they'll say "no, I don't like the BBC". When Biden was asked, he replied "no, I'm Irish"." He's a senile old trout. | |||
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"Maybe he just doesn’t like the BBC, plenty of people in Britain don’t like the BBC , do they hate Britain But if you ask the people in the UK that don't like the BBC for an interview, they'll say "no, I don't like the BBC". When Biden was asked, he replied "no, I'm Irish"." 117% of Americans claim to be Oirish so everyone running has to pretend to be Irish. | |||
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"Maybe he just doesn’t like the BBC, plenty of people in Britain don’t like the BBC , do they hate Britain But if you ask the people in the UK that don't like the BBC for an interview, they'll say "no, I don't like the BBC". When Biden was asked, he replied "no, I'm Irish". 117% of Americans claim to be Oirish so everyone running has to pretend to be Irish." lol true but alot of states have Irish heritage that are important for his reelection. | |||
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"Maybe he just doesn’t like the BBC, plenty of people in Britain don’t like the BBC , do they hate Britain But if you ask the people in the UK that don't like the BBC for an interview, they'll say "no, I don't like the BBC". When Biden was asked, he replied "no, I'm Irish". 117% of Americans claim to be Oirish so everyone running has to pretend to be Irish." No one here celebrates St.George Day.  | |||
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"Maybe he just doesn’t like the BBC, plenty of people in Britain don’t like the BBC , do they hate Britain But if you ask the people in the UK that don't like the BBC for an interview, they'll say "no, I don't like the BBC". When Biden was asked, he replied "no, I'm Irish". 117% of Americans claim to be Oirish so everyone running has to pretend to be Irish. No one here celebrates St.George Day. "To be fair, few people here celebrate St George’s Day! But many celebrate St Patrick’s Day  Go figure? | |||
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"Maybe he just doesn’t like the BBC, plenty of people in Britain don’t like the BBC , do they hate Britain But if you ask the people in the UK that don't like the BBC for an interview, they'll say "no, I don't like the BBC". When Biden was asked, he replied "no, I'm Irish". 117% of Americans claim to be Oirish so everyone running has to pretend to be Irish. No one here celebrates St.George Day.
To be fair, few people here celebrate St George’s Day! But many celebrate St Patrick’s Day Go figure?"lol all I know is if Biden agreed to a lucrative trade deal with Britain. He would definitely lose any chance of reelection. | |||
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"Maybe he just doesn’t like the BBC, plenty of people in Britain don’t like the BBC , do they hate Britain But if you ask the people in the UK that don't like the BBC for an interview, they'll say "no, I don't like the BBC". When Biden was asked, he replied "no, I'm Irish". 117% of Americans claim to be Oirish so everyone running has to pretend to be Irish. No one here celebrates St.George Day.
To be fair, few people here celebrate St George’s Day! But many celebrate St Patrick’s Day Go figure? lol all I know is if Biden agreed to a lucrative trade deal with Britain. He would definitely lose any chance of reelection."It was a smart move for his campaign. | |||
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"Maybe he just doesn’t like the BBC, plenty of people in Britain don’t like the BBC , do they hate Britain But if you ask the people in the UK that don't like the BBC for an interview, they'll say "no, I don't like the BBC". When Biden was asked, he replied "no, I'm Irish". 117% of Americans claim to be Oirish so everyone running has to pretend to be Irish. No one here celebrates St.George Day.
To be fair, few people here celebrate St George’s Day! But many celebrate St Patrick’s Day Go figure? lol all I know is if Biden agreed to a lucrative trade deal with Britain. He would definitely lose any chance of reelection. It was a smart move for his campaign."Are the republicans pro British? | |||
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"Maybe he just doesn’t like the BBC, plenty of people in Britain don’t like the BBC , do they hate Britain But if you ask the people in the UK that don't like the BBC for an interview, they'll say "no, I don't like the BBC". When Biden was asked, he replied "no, I'm Irish". 117% of Americans claim to be Oirish so everyone running has to pretend to be Irish. No one here celebrates St.George Day.
To be fair, few people here celebrate St George’s Day! But many celebrate St Patrick’s Day Go figure? lol all I know is if Biden agreed to a lucrative trade deal with Britain. He would definitely lose any chance of reelection. It was a smart move for his campaign.
Are the republicans pro British? "no party is going to say they are pro British. That would be political suicide. | |||
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"The absence of a trade deal shows the Biden administration has no interest in closer US-UK trade ties. Biden believes that he's Irish, and therefore he hates the British, going so far as to refuse to speak to the BBC. There was never any prospect of getting a trade deal while Biden was president. Reading the news closely it's clear that the things announced aren't actually deals, they're just commitments to consider deals. Even then, I'm amazed that Sunak managed to get anything at all. "Hates" the British seems rather strong. What has he done to actively harm the UK? Other than that, yes, mainly just talking about agreements. They have made a big thing of it to pay Sunak on the head for the Windsor Framework deal with the EU. It, at least sets a positive tone and we need major allies as the world starts to fragment again and great powers geopolitics gets more belligerent. We are not one of those great powers anymore." Biden never misses an opportunity to display his anti-Britishness. Odd from a man with an English name and English lineage. But then he is a distinctly odd man all round. The Democrats generally are more anti-British than the Republicans. Both Biden and Pelosi have stirred up trouble in N.Ireland. I feel saddened that we are forced into supporting Trump in our national interest. "None of our business" you might say. Possibly, but the US never fails to stick their noses into our business. | |||
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"Maybe he just doesn’t like the BBC, plenty of people in Britain don’t like the BBC , do they hate Britain But if you ask the people in the UK that don't like the BBC for an interview, they'll say "no, I don't like the BBC". When Biden was asked, he replied "no, I'm Irish". 117% of Americans claim to be Oirish so everyone running has to pretend to be Irish. No one here celebrates St.George Day.
To be fair, few people here celebrate St George’s Day! But many celebrate St Patrick’s Day Go figure? lol all I know is if Biden agreed to a lucrative trade deal with Britain. He would definitely lose any chance of reelection. It was a smart move for his campaign.
Are the republicans pro British? no party is going to say they are pro British. That would be political suicide."They were decidedly pro-British when they wanted our 35,000 men and women deployed in Iraq. | |||
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"Maybe he just doesn’t like the BBC, plenty of people in Britain don’t like the BBC , do they hate Britain But if you ask the people in the UK that don't like the BBC for an interview, they'll say "no, I don't like the BBC". When Biden was asked, he replied "no, I'm Irish". 117% of Americans claim to be Oirish so everyone running has to pretend to be Irish. No one here celebrates St.George Day.
To be fair, few people here celebrate St George’s Day! But many celebrate St Patrick’s Day Go figure? lol all I know is if Biden agreed to a lucrative trade deal with Britain. He would definitely lose any chance of reelection. It was a smart move for his campaign.
Are the republicans pro British? no party is going to say they are pro British. That would be political suicide.
They were decidedly pro-British when they wanted our 35,000 men and women deployed in Iraq. "Your parliament could have voted against. Seems they were for it. Can't just blame the US now can you. | |||
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"Maybe he just doesn’t like the BBC, plenty of people in Britain don’t like the BBC , do they hate Britain But if you ask the people in the UK that don't like the BBC for an interview, they'll say "no, I don't like the BBC". When Biden was asked, he replied "no, I'm Irish". 117% of Americans claim to be Oirish so everyone running has to pretend to be Irish. No one here celebrates St.George Day.
To be fair, few people here celebrate St George’s Day! But many celebrate St Patrick’s Day Go figure? lol all I know is if Biden agreed to a lucrative trade deal with Britain. He would definitely lose any chance of reelection. It was a smart move for his campaign.
Are the republicans pro British? no party is going to say they are pro British. That would be political suicide.
They were decidedly pro-British when they wanted our 35,000 men and women deployed in Iraq. Your parliament could have voted against. Seems they were for it. Can't just blame the US now can you."I didn't say I blamed the US. But isn't it crass hypocrisy to put as at the front of the queue when war beckons and the back of the queue for a trade deal? Talk about fine-weather friends. | |||
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"Maybe he just doesn’t like the BBC, plenty of people in Britain don’t like the BBC , do they hate Britain But if you ask the people in the UK that don't like the BBC for an interview, they'll say "no, I don't like the BBC". When Biden was asked, he replied "no, I'm Irish". 117% of Americans claim to be Oirish so everyone running has to pretend to be Irish. No one here celebrates St.George Day.
To be fair, few people here celebrate St George’s Day! But many celebrate St Patrick’s Day Go figure? lol all I know is if Biden agreed to a lucrative trade deal with Britain. He would definitely lose any chance of reelection. It was a smart move for his campaign.
Are the republicans pro British? no party is going to say they are pro British. That would be political suicide.
They were decidedly pro-British when they wanted our 35,000 men and women deployed in Iraq. Your parliament could have voted against. Seems they were for it. Can't just blame the US now can you.
I didn't say I blamed the US. But isn't it crass hypocrisy to put as at the front of the queue when war beckons and the back of the queue for a trade deal? Talk about fine-weather friends."I agree but Biden is up for reelection he is going to need the Irish vote. He can't afford to piss off those constituents. | |||
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"Maybe he just doesn’t like the BBC, plenty of people in Britain don’t like the BBC , do they hate Britain But if you ask the people in the UK that don't like the BBC for an interview, they'll say "no, I don't like the BBC". When Biden was asked, he replied "no, I'm Irish". 117% of Americans claim to be Oirish so everyone running has to pretend to be Irish. No one here celebrates St.George Day.
To be fair, few people here celebrate St George’s Day! But many celebrate St Patrick’s Day Go figure? lol all I know is if Biden agreed to a lucrative trade deal with Britain. He would definitely lose any chance of reelection. It was a smart move for his campaign.
Are the republicans pro British? no party is going to say they are pro British. That would be political suicide.
They were decidedly pro-British when they wanted our 35,000 men and women deployed in Iraq. Your parliament could have voted against. Seems they were for it. Can't just blame the US now can you.
I didn't say I blamed the US. But isn't it crass hypocrisy to put as at the front of the queue when war beckons and the back of the queue for a trade deal? Talk about fine-weather friends. I agree but Biden is up for reelection he is going to need the Irish vote. He can't afford to piss off those constituents."Trump vs Biden looking increasingly likely. God Almighty what a choice to have to make. | |||
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"Maybe he just doesn’t like the BBC, plenty of people in Britain don’t like the BBC , do they hate Britain But if you ask the people in the UK that don't like the BBC for an interview, they'll say "no, I don't like the BBC". When Biden was asked, he replied "no, I'm Irish". 117% of Americans claim to be Oirish so everyone running has to pretend to be Irish. No one here celebrates St.George Day.
To be fair, few people here celebrate St George’s Day! But many celebrate St Patrick’s Day Go figure? lol all I know is if Biden agreed to a lucrative trade deal with Britain. He would definitely lose any chance of reelection. It was a smart move for his campaign.
Are the republicans pro British? no party is going to say they are pro British. That would be political suicide.
They were decidedly pro-British when they wanted our 35,000 men and women deployed in Iraq. Your parliament could have voted against. Seems they were for it. Can't just blame the US now can you.
I didn't say I blamed the US. But isn't it crass hypocrisy to put as at the front of the queue when war beckons and the back of the queue for a trade deal? Talk about fine-weather friends. I agree but Biden is up for reelection he is going to need the Irish vote. He can't afford to piss off those constituents.
Trump vs Biden looking increasingly likely. God Almighty what a choice to have to make. "Surely there must be better options. These two can't be the best of the best, can they! | |||
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"Maybe he just doesn’t like the BBC, plenty of people in Britain don’t like the BBC , do they hate Britain But if you ask the people in the UK that don't like the BBC for an interview, they'll say "no, I don't like the BBC". When Biden was asked, he replied "no, I'm Irish". 117% of Americans claim to be Oirish so everyone running has to pretend to be Irish. No one here celebrates St.George Day.
To be fair, few people here celebrate St George’s Day! But many celebrate St Patrick’s Day Go figure? lol all I know is if Biden agreed to a lucrative trade deal with Britain. He would definitely lose any chance of reelection. It was a smart move for his campaign.
Are the republicans pro British? no party is going to say they are pro British. That would be political suicide.
They were decidedly pro-British when they wanted our 35,000 men and women deployed in Iraq. Your parliament could have voted against. Seems they were for it. Can't just blame the US now can you.
I didn't say I blamed the US. But isn't it crass hypocrisy to put as at the front of the queue when war beckons and the back of the queue for a trade deal? Talk about fine-weather friends. I agree but Biden is up for reelection he is going to need the Irish vote. He can't afford to piss off those constituents.
Trump vs Biden looking increasingly likely. God Almighty what a choice to have to make.
Surely there must be better options. These two can't be the best of the best, can they!"How's Brexit again enlighten me? | |||
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"Maybe he just doesn’t like the BBC, plenty of people in Britain don’t like the BBC , do they hate Britain But if you ask the people in the UK that don't like the BBC for an interview, they'll say "no, I don't like the BBC". When Biden was asked, he replied "no, I'm Irish". 117% of Americans claim to be Oirish so everyone running has to pretend to be Irish. No one here celebrates St.George Day.
To be fair, few people here celebrate St George’s Day! But many celebrate St Patrick’s Day Go figure? lol all I know is if Biden agreed to a lucrative trade deal with Britain. He would definitely lose any chance of reelection. It was a smart move for his campaign.
Are the republicans pro British? no party is going to say they are pro British. That would be political suicide.
They were decidedly pro-British when they wanted our 35,000 men and women deployed in Iraq. Your parliament could have voted against. Seems they were for it. Can't just blame the US now can you.
I didn't say I blamed the US. But isn't it crass hypocrisy to put as at the front of the queue when war beckons and the back of the queue for a trade deal? Talk about fine-weather friends. I agree but Biden is up for reelection he is going to need the Irish vote. He can't afford to piss off those constituents.
Trump vs Biden looking increasingly likely. God Almighty what a choice to have to make.
Surely there must be better options. These two can't be the best of the best, can they! How's Brexit again enlighten me? "I do feel embarrassed by the self entitlement of my fellow members of the UK who believe they know better or have standards far above other nations | |||
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"Maybe he just doesn’t like the BBC, plenty of people in Britain don’t like the BBC , do they hate Britain But if you ask the people in the UK that don't like the BBC for an interview, they'll say "no, I don't like the BBC". When Biden was asked, he replied "no, I'm Irish". 117% of Americans claim to be Oirish so everyone running has to pretend to be Irish. No one here celebrates St.George Day.
To be fair, few people here celebrate St George’s Day! But many celebrate St Patrick’s Day Go figure? lol all I know is if Biden agreed to a lucrative trade deal with Britain. He would definitely lose any chance of reelection. It was a smart move for his campaign.
Are the republicans pro British? no party is going to say they are pro British. That would be political suicide.
They were decidedly pro-British when they wanted our 35,000 men and women deployed in Iraq. Your parliament could have voted against. Seems they were for it. Can't just blame the US now can you.
I didn't say I blamed the US. But isn't it crass hypocrisy to put as at the front of the queue when war beckons and the back of the queue for a trade deal? Talk about fine-weather friends. I agree but Biden is up for reelection he is going to need the Irish vote. He can't afford to piss off those constituents.
Trump vs Biden looking increasingly likely. God Almighty what a choice to have to make.
Surely there must be better options. These two can't be the best of the best, can they! How's Brexit again enlighten me?
I do feel embarrassed by the self entitlement of my fellow members of the UK who believe they know better or have standards far above other nations"It's a common theme. | |||
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" Brexiteers are smart enough to read and know what an fta is. " All of them? You’re sure? | |||
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"Maybe he just doesn’t like the BBC, plenty of people in Britain don’t like the BBC , do they hate Britain But if you ask the people in the UK that don't like the BBC for an interview, they'll say "no, I don't like the BBC". When Biden was asked, he replied "no, I'm Irish". 117% of Americans claim to be Oirish so everyone running has to pretend to be Irish. No one here celebrates St.George Day.
To be fair, few people here celebrate St George’s Day! But many celebrate St Patrick’s Day Go figure? lol all I know is if Biden agreed to a lucrative trade deal with Britain. He would definitely lose any chance of reelection. It was a smart move for his campaign.
Are the republicans pro British? no party is going to say they are pro British. That would be political suicide.
They were decidedly pro-British when they wanted our 35,000 men and women deployed in Iraq. Your parliament could have voted against. Seems they were for it. Can't just blame the US now can you.
I didn't say I blamed the US. But isn't it crass hypocrisy to put as at the front of the queue when war beckons and the back of the queue for a trade deal? Talk about fine-weather friends. I agree but Biden is up for reelection he is going to need the Irish vote. He can't afford to piss off those constituents.
Trump vs Biden looking increasingly likely. God Almighty what a choice to have to make.
Surely there must be better options. These two can't be the best of the best, can they! How's Brexit again enlighten me? "Utter shit. What's that got to do with anything? | |||
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"Are we talking about Joe 'Irish' Biden, the fella who is more British than he is Irish? He took Winston Churchill's bust out of the oval office and one of his favorite heros is wolf tone. I think with those actions he dislikes the British.
Maybe he just disliked Winston Churchill ? Wolfe tone is a Irish revolutionary.
And? Biden ancestry is Irish and hence the dislike for Brits."My company was invaded and subjugated by the Portuguese, Dutch and British. Several of my ancestors were executed by them at various times. I am British. Born and brought up here. Now, tell me how I think and feel. | |||
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"The absence of a trade deal shows the Biden administration has no interest in closer US-UK trade ties. Biden believes that he's Irish, and therefore he hates the British, going so far as to refuse to speak to the BBC. There was never any prospect of getting a trade deal while Biden was president. Reading the news closely it's clear that the things announced aren't actually deals, they're just commitments to consider deals. Even then, I'm amazed that Sunak managed to get anything at all. "Hates" the British seems rather strong. What has he done to actively harm the UK? Other than that, yes, mainly just talking about agreements. They have made a big thing of it to pay Sunak on the head for the Windsor Framework deal with the EU. It, at least sets a positive tone and we need major allies as the world starts to fragment again and great powers geopolitics gets more belligerent. We are not one of those great powers anymore. Biden never misses an opportunity to display his anti-Britishness. Odd from a man with an English name and English lineage. But then he is a distinctly odd man all round. The Democrats generally are more anti-British than the Republicans. Both Biden and Pelosi have stirred up trouble in N.Ireland. I feel saddened that we are forced into supporting Trump in our national interest. "None of our business" you might say. Possibly, but the US never fails to stick their noses into our business." What has he said and done that is "anti-British"? The US "sticks their noses" into everyone's business. So do Russia and China, don't they? | |||
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"Maybe he just doesn’t like the BBC, plenty of people in Britain don’t like the BBC , do they hate Britain But if you ask the people in the UK that don't like the BBC for an interview, they'll say "no, I don't like the BBC". When Biden was asked, he replied "no, I'm Irish"." Biden wasn't asked if he liked the BBC. He was asked to answer a question. Do you know what the current news topics were at the time? Was there any context for his answer? Regardless of that, how does someone saying that their Irish mean that they hate the British? | |||
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"How did Biden "put his own job at risk". There are lots of voters in the US, and lots of members of the Democratic Party that are very unhappy at Biden's stance. Trade deals are always good for both sides, and his refusal to even start talks isn't helping the US to increase its exports. It's made worse by the fact that he keeps bringing up Ireland in all discussions that involve the UK. Lots of people are wondering why they should vote for a man that seems to be more interested in improving Ireland rather than improving the US. What did he do to "get back at us"? As I've said, stopping trade negotiations, and insisting on interfering in negotiations in Northern Ireland. Biden's public sharpness does not look great, but he seems to be actually achieving some pretty big things. I don't want to argue on this point, but what do you see as a big thing that Biden has achieved?" "Lots" are "unhappy". Really? How many "lots" and how "unhappy"? Trade deals are not always good for both sides. Our trade deal with New Zealand was calculated as being negative for us on GDP. They tend to favour the larger economy (except in our case) due to their relative negotiating position. From a US perspective, it would be rational to consider the EU a more significant ally than the UK and position themselves appropriately. Domestically there is also more value in articulating that as taking the part of Ireland and it plays well in general to take the part of the smaller nation. Have you heard of the Inflation Reduction Act? Have you noticed any stories about the outcome of the US debt ceiling negotiations? | |||
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"Have you heard of the Inflation Reduction Act? Have you noticed any stories about the outcome of the US debt ceiling negotiations?" Like I said, I don't want to derail the thread by discussing these issues, but I appreciate you answering. | |||
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"Regardless of that, how does someone saying that their Irish mean that they hate the British?" Just to make this clear, I'm not saying that all, or even most, Irish people hate the British. What I'm saying is that a small group of Americans like to believe that they're directly descended from Irish stock, and that this makes them superior to others. Those people mythologise the Irish, and part of that is hating the British for things that happened to their ancestors. Biden's behaviour makes it clear that he is in that group of people. I'll let people watch the clip of him being asked a question by the BBC, and they can draw their own conclusions as to whether I'm right or not. | |||
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"Are we talking about Joe 'Irish' Biden, the fella who is more British than he is Irish? He took Winston Churchill's bust out of the oval office and one of his favorite heros is wolf tone. I think with those actions he dislikes the British.
Maybe he just disliked Winston Churchill ? Wolfe tone is a Irish revolutionary.
And? Biden ancestry is Irish and hence the dislike for Brits.
My company was invaded and subjugated by the Portuguese, Dutch and British.
Several of my ancestors were executed by them at various times.
I am British. Born and brought up here.
Now, tell me how I think and feel."My country (of origin)* | |||
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"Regardless of that, how does someone saying that their Irish mean that they hate the British? Just to make this clear, I'm not saying that all, or even most, Irish people hate the British. What I'm saying is that a small group of Americans like to believe that they're directly descended from Irish stock, and that this makes them superior to others. Those people mythologise the Irish, and part of that is hating the British for things that happened to their ancestors. Biden's behaviour makes it clear that he is in that group of people. I'll let people watch the clip of him being asked a question by the BBC, and they can draw their own conclusions as to whether I'm right or not." 31 million people identify as being of Irish ancestry. Joe can't afford to piss off that voting base. | |||
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"Regardless of that, how does someone saying that their Irish mean that they hate the British? Just to make this clear, I'm not saying that all, or even most, Irish people hate the British. What I'm saying is that a small group of Americans like to believe that they're directly descended from Irish stock, and that this makes them superior to others. Those people mythologise the Irish, and part of that is hating the British for things that happened to their ancestors. Biden's behaviour makes it clear that he is in that group of people. I'll let people watch the clip of him being asked a question by the BBC, and they can draw their own conclusions as to whether I'm right or not." So no indication that "lots of people" in the UD have any negative views on Biden's position on the UK. So no indication that he has "put his own job at risk". He has done nothing to "get back at us". He has "meddled in Northern Ireland" in the same way that countless US Presidents have (including arbitrating the Good Friday Agreement) but is just as easily viewed as prioritising the US relationship with the EU over that of the UK. He replied to a request for a question from the BBC by saying that his Irish, which sounds more like he's just dodging a question when you watch the video. There is nothing except opinion here unless you can provide more context as to the news item that Boden was most likely to be asked about at the time. I see no indication yet of any "hate" or even substantial bias. It looks more like a downgrading of the utility of the UK to the USA. Realpolitik. You are expressing an opinion and an emotional reaction to perceived behaviour but there is no grounding in fact as far as I can see. | |||
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"You are expressing an opinion ..." Yes I am, as are you. I'm sure everyone can see that. "... there is no grounding in fact as far as I can see." I think we've adequately demonstrated that some people see things differently to others. There's very little point quibbling about it if neither of us can produce facts about what's in Biden's head. | |||
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"You are expressing an opinion ... Yes I am, as are you. I'm sure everyone can see that. ... there is no grounding in fact as far as I can see. I think we've adequately demonstrated that some people see things differently to others. There's very little point quibbling about it if neither of us can produce facts about what's in Biden's head." Just for the record, I'm not trying to... | |||
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"And the lefties will say the UK are just Americas puppets. Go on lefties, spin it "Haven't we been the 51st of America for a very long time? | |||
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"And the lefties will say the UK are just Americas puppets. Go on lefties, spin it
Haven't we been the 51st of America for a very long time?"pretty much | |||
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