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By *otMe66 OP   Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma

Every day we see posts blaming Brexit for any number of things, some have the most tenuous of links to Brexit in my opinion, and that has got me thinking!

What has been the impact of Brexit to you personally?

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By *astandFeistyCouple
over a year ago

Bournemouth


"Every day we see posts blaming Brexit for any number of things, some have the most tenuous of links to Brexit in my opinion, and that has got me thinking!

What has been the impact of Brexit to you personally?

"

You'll get the usual 'economic' arguments etc etc.

I can say that Brexit hasn't affected my daily life one iota. That's me saying nothing has changed for me in my day to day life. I'd love to retire to the Mediterranean at some point which has been made obviously harder but other than that, maybe longer queues at the airport

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

Not affected my day to day life, as for travelling i not been to europe for quite a while now tend to go further afield nowadays so am used to having to have visas and queuing at airports

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Every day we see posts blaming Brexit for any number of things, some have the most tenuous of links to Brexit in my opinion, and that has got me thinking!

What has been the impact of Brexit to you personally?

You'll get the usual 'economic' arguments etc etc.

I can say that Brexit hasn't affected my daily life one iota. That's me saying nothing has changed for me in my day to day life. I'd love to retire to the Mediterranean at some point which has been made obviously harder but other than that, maybe longer queues at the airport "

Pretending that economic arguments aren’t somehow valid is a bit strange tbf. Doesn’t the economy affect each of us on a daily basis?

For me, travelling is made harder, my retirement plans will likely suffer greatly, and the reduced rights and opportunities for my children is something that will always infuriate me.

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By *astandFeistyCouple
over a year ago

Bournemouth


"Every day we see posts blaming Brexit for any number of things, some have the most tenuous of links to Brexit in my opinion, and that has got me thinking!

What has been the impact of Brexit to you personally?

You'll get the usual 'economic' arguments etc etc.

I can say that Brexit hasn't affected my daily life one iota. That's me saying nothing has changed for me in my day to day life. I'd love to retire to the Mediterranean at some point which has been made obviously harder but other than that, maybe longer queues at the airport

Pretending that economic arguments aren’t somehow valid is a bit strange tbf. Doesn’t the economy affect each of us on a daily basis?

For me, travelling is made harder, my retirement plans will likely suffer greatly, and the reduced rights and opportunities for my children is something that will always infuriate me. "

Of course economics affects us all.

Let me ask, after 2008, did you blame everything on American Bankers?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

getting stung with import tax when I bought some paddle boards. Didnt know they were comming from the Netherlands and had to pay import tax to get them.

that was a kick in the nuts I wasnt expecting.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

being extremely pissed off at standing in very large "all other passports" queues to get through Belgian passport control in and out, watching the tiny EU passport queue.

Then arrive back in the UK and stand in a UK and EU passport queue. Why is there not a dedicated UK passport queue in the UK.

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By *oah VailMan
over a year ago

Dover

Well, it cost my wife her job; utterly derailed retirement plans; devalued the pound in my pocket; has made lots of negative impact to me locally living near enough to a channel crossing to get stuck in gridlock whenever someone in a booth drops their clipboard; has made buying and selling stuff across the border with the EU challenging; but hey, blue passports.

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By *alcon43Woman
over a year ago

Paisley

There has been issues getting medication.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Every day we see posts blaming Brexit for any number of things, some have the most tenuous of links to Brexit in my opinion, and that has got me thinking!

What has been the impact of Brexit to you personally?

You'll get the usual 'economic' arguments etc etc.

I can say that Brexit hasn't affected my daily life one iota. That's me saying nothing has changed for me in my day to day life. I'd love to retire to the Mediterranean at some point which has been made obviously harder but other than that, maybe longer queues at the airport

Pretending that economic arguments aren’t somehow valid is a bit strange tbf. Doesn’t the economy affect each of us on a daily basis?

For me, travelling is made harder, my retirement plans will likely suffer greatly, and the reduced rights and opportunities for my children is something that will always infuriate me.

Of course economics affects us all.

Let me ask, after 2008, did you blame everything on American Bankers?"

I blamed the financial crisis on them, yes. And much damage spiralled from that point. Just as I blame the snake oil salesmen Farage, Hannan, Johnson, Rees-Mogg for Brexit - and they’re responsible for the domino effects, supply chain issues, currency falling, slow recovery lost jobs, reduced rights etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In short, everyone has been affected by Brexit in some sense or another. Even if it’s simply more hassle to travel on holiday.

I think we can all agree that so far it’s been a massively expensive waste of time, and far from the sunlit uplands promised (as plenty of us predicted).

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By *orleymanMan
over a year ago

Leeds


"Every day we see posts blaming Brexit for any number of things, some have the most tenuous of links to Brexit in my opinion, and that has got me thinking!

What has been the impact of Brexit to you personally?

"

Not brexit itself.

The main impact of the vote reducing the value of the pound . Many companies used it to simply profiteer and push prices up like the I phone.

The biggest effect was probably the bank.of England becoming more politicised and negligent by carney. Sticking to a narrative of " nothing is out fault"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Every day we see posts blaming Brexit for any number of things, some have the most tenuous of links to Brexit in my opinion, and that has got me thinking!

What has been the impact of Brexit to you personally?

Not brexit itself.

The main impact of the vote reducing the value of the pound . Many companies used it to simply profiteer and push prices up like the I phone.

The biggest effect was probably the bank.of England becoming more politicised and negligent by carney. Sticking to a narrative of " nothing is out fault"

"

The pound plummeted straight after we voted to leave and hasn’t recovered since

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By *orleymanMan
over a year ago

Leeds


"Every day we see posts blaming Brexit for any number of things, some have the most tenuous of links to Brexit in my opinion, and that has got me thinking!

What has been the impact of Brexit to you personally?

Not brexit itself.

The main impact of the vote reducing the value of the pound . Many companies used it to simply profiteer and push prices up like the I phone.

The biggest effect was probably the bank.of England becoming more politicised and negligent by carney. Sticking to a narrative of " nothing is out fault"

The pound plummeted straight after we voted to leave and hasn’t recovered since "

It was plummeting beforehand. But has struggled to recover. But is performing well this year. And we will have to see the outcome of the debt ceiling vote coming to see how it will perform in future.

But thats thebonly impact i have really felt

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Every day we see posts blaming Brexit for any number of things, some have the most tenuous of links to Brexit in my opinion, and that has got me thinking!

What has been the impact of Brexit to you personally?

Not brexit itself.

The main impact of the vote reducing the value of the pound . Many companies used it to simply profiteer and push prices up like the I phone.

The biggest effect was probably the bank.of England becoming more politicised and negligent by carney. Sticking to a narrative of " nothing is out fault"

"

The only reason we didn’t suffer more in the immediate aftermath was Carney’s excellent work.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Every day we see posts blaming Brexit for any number of things, some have the most tenuous of links to Brexit in my opinion, and that has got me thinking!

What has been the impact of Brexit to you personally?

Not brexit itself.

The main impact of the vote reducing the value of the pound . Many companies used it to simply profiteer and push prices up like the I phone.

The biggest effect was probably the bank.of England becoming more politicised and negligent by carney. Sticking to a narrative of " nothing is out fault"

The pound plummeted straight after we voted to leave and hasn’t recovered since

It was plummeting beforehand. But has struggled to recover. But is performing well this year. And we will have to see the outcome of the debt ceiling vote coming to see how it will perform in future.

But thats thebonly impact i have really felt "

No it wasn’t

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By *astandFeistyCouple
over a year ago

Bournemouth


"Every day we see posts blaming Brexit for any number of things, some have the most tenuous of links to Brexit in my opinion, and that has got me thinking!

What has been the impact of Brexit to you personally?

You'll get the usual 'economic' arguments etc etc.

I can say that Brexit hasn't affected my daily life one iota. That's me saying nothing has changed for me in my day to day life. I'd love to retire to the Mediterranean at some point which has been made obviously harder but other than that, maybe longer queues at the airport

Pretending that economic arguments aren’t somehow valid is a bit strange tbf. Doesn’t the economy affect each of us on a daily basis?

For me, travelling is made harder, my retirement plans will likely suffer greatly, and the reduced rights and opportunities for my children is something that will always infuriate me.

Of course economics affects us all.

Let me ask, after 2008, did you blame everything on American Bankers?

I blamed the financial crisis on them, yes. And much damage spiralled from that point. Just as I blame the snake oil salesmen Farage, Hannan, Johnson, Rees-Mogg for Brexit - and they’re responsible for the domino effects, supply chain issues, currency falling, slow recovery lost jobs, reduced rights etc

"

But did you blame everything on them?

That's the question I asked.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Every day we see posts blaming Brexit for any number of things, some have the most tenuous of links to Brexit in my opinion, and that has got me thinking!

What has been the impact of Brexit to you personally?

You'll get the usual 'economic' arguments etc etc.

I can say that Brexit hasn't affected my daily life one iota. That's me saying nothing has changed for me in my day to day life. I'd love to retire to the Mediterranean at some point which has been made obviously harder but other than that, maybe longer queues at the airport

Pretending that economic arguments aren’t somehow valid is a bit strange tbf. Doesn’t the economy affect each of us on a daily basis?

For me, travelling is made harder, my retirement plans will likely suffer greatly, and the reduced rights and opportunities for my children is something that will always infuriate me.

Of course economics affects us all.

Let me ask, after 2008, did you blame everything on American Bankers?

I blamed the financial crisis on them, yes. And much damage spiralled from that point. Just as I blame the snake oil salesmen Farage, Hannan, Johnson, Rees-Mogg for Brexit - and they’re responsible for the domino effects, supply chain issues, currency falling, slow recovery lost jobs, reduced rights etc

But did you blame everything on them?

That's the question I asked."

Oh I see. You think that I blame everything on Brexit and are trying to score a nonsense point.

Sorry about that.

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By *orleymanMan
over a year ago

Leeds


"Every day we see posts blaming Brexit for any number of things, some have the most tenuous of links to Brexit in my opinion, and that has got me thinking!

What has been the impact of Brexit to you personally?

Not brexit itself.

The main impact of the vote reducing the value of the pound . Many companies used it to simply profiteer and push prices up like the I phone.

The biggest effect was probably the bank.of England becoming more politicised and negligent by carney. Sticking to a narrative of " nothing is out fault"

The only reason we didn’t suffer more in the immediate aftermath was Carney’s excellent work. "

Excellent work? Lowering the interest rate the putting it back up again 1 year later?

Wanna stick with that 1? Given the time lag of 18 mo tha for effect of interest rate policy?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Every day we see posts blaming Brexit for any number of things, some have the most tenuous of links to Brexit in my opinion, and that has got me thinking!

What has been the impact of Brexit to you personally?

Not brexit itself.

The main impact of the vote reducing the value of the pound . Many companies used it to simply profiteer and push prices up like the I phone.

The biggest effect was probably the bank.of England becoming more politicised and negligent by carney. Sticking to a narrative of " nothing is out fault"

The only reason we didn’t suffer more in the immediate aftermath was Carney’s excellent work.

Excellent work? Lowering the interest rate the putting it back up again 1 year later?

Wanna stick with that 1? Given the time lag of 18 mo tha for effect of interest rate policy?"

Yes I want to stick with that. Carney’s work was lauded by actual economists - you know, experts. The people you don’t listen to.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Every day we see posts blaming Brexit for any number of things, some have the most tenuous of links to Brexit in my opinion, and that has got me thinking!

What has been the impact of Brexit to you personally?

Not brexit itself.

The main impact of the vote reducing the value of the pound . Many companies used it to simply profiteer and push prices up like the I phone.

The biggest effect was probably the bank.of England becoming more politicised and negligent by carney. Sticking to a narrative of " nothing is out fault"

The only reason we didn’t suffer more in the immediate aftermath was Carney’s excellent work.

Excellent work? Lowering the interest rate the putting it back up again 1 year later?

Wanna stick with that 1? Given the time lag of 18 mo tha for effect of interest rate policy?"

Carney and the BOE are better qualified and reliable than you are

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By *astandFeistyCouple
over a year ago

Bournemouth


"Every day we see posts blaming Brexit for any number of things, some have the most tenuous of links to Brexit in my opinion, and that has got me thinking!

What has been the impact of Brexit to you personally?

You'll get the usual 'economic' arguments etc etc.

I can say that Brexit hasn't affected my daily life one iota. That's me saying nothing has changed for me in my day to day life. I'd love to retire to the Mediterranean at some point which has been made obviously harder but other than that, maybe longer queues at the airport

Pretending that economic arguments aren’t somehow valid is a bit strange tbf. Doesn’t the economy affect each of us on a daily basis?

For me, travelling is made harder, my retirement plans will likely suffer greatly, and the reduced rights and opportunities for my children is something that will always infuriate me.

Of course economics affects us all.

Let me ask, after 2008, did you blame everything on American Bankers?

I blamed the financial crisis on them, yes. And much damage spiralled from that point. Just as I blame the snake oil salesmen Farage, Hannan, Johnson, Rees-Mogg for Brexit - and they’re responsible for the domino effects, supply chain issues, currency falling, slow recovery lost jobs, reduced rights etc

But did you blame everything on them?

That's the question I asked.

Oh I see. You think that I blame everything on Brexit and are trying to score a nonsense point.

Sorry about that. "

Seems that way yeah

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personally, hard to unpick from the rest of the issues we face.

At work, fuck load of extra challenges for no added value to the client. Tho some reversal of some unhelpful rules are on the pipeline.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Every day we see posts blaming Brexit for any number of things, some have the most tenuous of links to Brexit in my opinion, and that has got me thinking!

What has been the impact of Brexit to you personally?

You'll get the usual 'economic' arguments etc etc.

I can say that Brexit hasn't affected my daily life one iota. That's me saying nothing has changed for me in my day to day life. I'd love to retire to the Mediterranean at some point which has been made obviously harder but other than that, maybe longer queues at the airport

Pretending that economic arguments aren’t somehow valid is a bit strange tbf. Doesn’t the economy affect each of us on a daily basis?

For me, travelling is made harder, my retirement plans will likely suffer greatly, and the reduced rights and opportunities for my children is something that will always infuriate me.

Of course economics affects us all.

Let me ask, after 2008, did you blame everything on American Bankers?

I blamed the financial crisis on them, yes. And much damage spiralled from that point. Just as I blame the snake oil salesmen Farage, Hannan, Johnson, Rees-Mogg for Brexit - and they’re responsible for the domino effects, supply chain issues, currency falling, slow recovery lost jobs, reduced rights etc

But did you blame everything on them?

That's the question I asked.

Oh I see. You think that I blame everything on Brexit and are trying to score a nonsense point.

Sorry about that.

Seems that way yeah"

That sounds like a *you* problem

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By *astandFeistyCouple
over a year ago

Bournemouth


"Every day we see posts blaming Brexit for any number of things, some have the most tenuous of links to Brexit in my opinion, and that has got me thinking!

What has been the impact of Brexit to you personally?

You'll get the usual 'economic' arguments etc etc.

I can say that Brexit hasn't affected my daily life one iota. That's me saying nothing has changed for me in my day to day life. I'd love to retire to the Mediterranean at some point which has been made obviously harder but other than that, maybe longer queues at the airport

Pretending that economic arguments aren’t somehow valid is a bit strange tbf. Doesn’t the economy affect each of us on a daily basis?

For me, travelling is made harder, my retirement plans will likely suffer greatly, and the reduced rights and opportunities for my children is something that will always infuriate me.

Of course economics affects us all.

Let me ask, after 2008, did you blame everything on American Bankers?

I blamed the financial crisis on them, yes. And much damage spiralled from that point. Just as I blame the snake oil salesmen Farage, Hannan, Johnson, Rees-Mogg for Brexit - and they’re responsible for the domino effects, supply chain issues, currency falling, slow recovery lost jobs, reduced rights etc

But did you blame everything on them?

That's the question I asked.

Oh I see. You think that I blame everything on Brexit and are trying to score a nonsense point.

Sorry about that.

Seems that way yeah

That sounds like a *you* problem "

Why are you trying to make it personal? I don't have a 'problem', just an observation.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Every day we see posts blaming Brexit for any number of things, some have the most tenuous of links to Brexit in my opinion, and that has got me thinking!

What has been the impact of Brexit to you personally?

You'll get the usual 'economic' arguments etc etc.

I can say that Brexit hasn't affected my daily life one iota. That's me saying nothing has changed for me in my day to day life. I'd love to retire to the Mediterranean at some point which has been made obviously harder but other than that, maybe longer queues at the airport

Pretending that economic arguments aren’t somehow valid is a bit strange tbf. Doesn’t the economy affect each of us on a daily basis?

For me, travelling is made harder, my retirement plans will likely suffer greatly, and the reduced rights and opportunities for my children is something that will always infuriate me.

Of course economics affects us all.

Let me ask, after 2008, did you blame everything on American Bankers?

I blamed the financial crisis on them, yes. And much damage spiralled from that point. Just as I blame the snake oil salesmen Farage, Hannan, Johnson, Rees-Mogg for Brexit - and they’re responsible for the domino effects, supply chain issues, currency falling, slow recovery lost jobs, reduced rights etc

But did you blame everything on them?

That's the question I asked.

Oh I see. You think that I blame everything on Brexit and are trying to score a nonsense point.

Sorry about that.

Seems that way yeah

That sounds like a *you* problem

Why are you trying to make it personal? I don't have a 'problem', just an observation.

"

Doing nothing of the sort. Just making an assumption from what I’ve seen of your posting. Just as you’ve done with me on this thread.

Go well

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By *astandFeistyCouple
over a year ago

Bournemouth


"Every day we see posts blaming Brexit for any number of things, some have the most tenuous of links to Brexit in my opinion, and that has got me thinking!

What has been the impact of Brexit to you personally?

You'll get the usual 'economic' arguments etc etc.

I can say that Brexit hasn't affected my daily life one iota. That's me saying nothing has changed for me in my day to day life. I'd love to retire to the Mediterranean at some point which has been made obviously harder but other than that, maybe longer queues at the airport

Pretending that economic arguments aren’t somehow valid is a bit strange tbf. Doesn’t the economy affect each of us on a daily basis?

For me, travelling is made harder, my retirement plans will likely suffer greatly, and the reduced rights and opportunities for my children is something that will always infuriate me.

Of course economics affects us all.

Let me ask, after 2008, did you blame everything on American Bankers?

I blamed the financial crisis on them, yes. And much damage spiralled from that point. Just as I blame the snake oil salesmen Farage, Hannan, Johnson, Rees-Mogg for Brexit - and they’re responsible for the domino effects, supply chain issues, currency falling, slow recovery lost jobs, reduced rights etc

But did you blame everything on them?

That's the question I asked.

Oh I see. You think that I blame everything on Brexit and are trying to score a nonsense point.

Sorry about that.

Seems that way yeah

That sounds like a *you* problem

Why are you trying to make it personal? I don't have a 'problem', just an observation.

Doing nothing of the sort. Just making an assumption from what I’ve seen of your posting. Just as you’ve done with me on this thread.

Go well "

Oh I see, you don't like me so that means I have a 'problem', got it.

The difference here is I took what you've written on this thread alone and made my observation.

"responsible for the domino effects, supply chain issues, currency falling, slow recovery lost jobs, reduced rights etc"

You seem to have forgotten plenty more that has influenced these things in the last 7 years

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Every day we see posts blaming Brexit for any number of things, some have the most tenuous of links to Brexit in my opinion, and that has got me thinking!

What has been the impact of Brexit to you personally?

You'll get the usual 'economic' arguments etc etc.

I can say that Brexit hasn't affected my daily life one iota. That's me saying nothing has changed for me in my day to day life. I'd love to retire to the Mediterranean at some point which has been made obviously harder but other than that, maybe longer queues at the airport

Pretending that economic arguments aren’t somehow valid is a bit strange tbf. Doesn’t the economy affect each of us on a daily basis?

For me, travelling is made harder, my retirement plans will likely suffer greatly, and the reduced rights and opportunities for my children is something that will always infuriate me.

Of course economics affects us all.

Let me ask, after 2008, did you blame everything on American Bankers?

I blamed the financial crisis on them, yes. And much damage spiralled from that point. Just as I blame the snake oil salesmen Farage, Hannan, Johnson, Rees-Mogg for Brexit - and they’re responsible for the domino effects, supply chain issues, currency falling, slow recovery lost jobs, reduced rights etc

But did you blame everything on them?

That's the question I asked.

Oh I see. You think that I blame everything on Brexit and are trying to score a nonsense point.

Sorry about that.

Seems that way yeah

That sounds like a *you* problem

Why are you trying to make it personal? I don't have a 'problem', just an observation.

Doing nothing of the sort. Just making an assumption from what I’ve seen of your posting. Just as you’ve done with me on this thread.

Go well

Oh I see, you don't like me so that means I have a 'problem', got it.

The difference here is I took what you've written on this thread alone and made my observation.

"responsible for the domino effects, supply chain issues, currency falling, slow recovery lost jobs, reduced rights etc"

You seem to have forgotten plenty more that has influenced these things in the last 7 years "

I’ve forgotten nothing of the sort.

When did the falling pound commence? When did supply chain issues commence? What’s been the biggest factor in job losses? Why have we recycle recovered from Covid slower than equivalent economies in the EU?

Brexit is a substantial factor in all of these - only a fool would pretend otherwise.

Still, Sunlit uplands, eh?

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By *astandFeistyCouple
over a year ago

Bournemouth


"Every day we see posts blaming Brexit for any number of things, some have the most tenuous of links to Brexit in my opinion, and that has got me thinking!

What has been the impact of Brexit to you personally?

You'll get the usual 'economic' arguments etc etc.

I can say that Brexit hasn't affected my daily life one iota. That's me saying nothing has changed for me in my day to day life. I'd love to retire to the Mediterranean at some point which has been made obviously harder but other than that, maybe longer queues at the airport

Pretending that economic arguments aren’t somehow valid is a bit strange tbf. Doesn’t the economy affect each of us on a daily basis?

For me, travelling is made harder, my retirement plans will likely suffer greatly, and the reduced rights and opportunities for my children is something that will always infuriate me.

Of course economics affects us all.

Let me ask, after 2008, did you blame everything on American Bankers?

I blamed the financial crisis on them, yes. And much damage spiralled from that point. Just as I blame the snake oil salesmen Farage, Hannan, Johnson, Rees-Mogg for Brexit - and they’re responsible for the domino effects, supply chain issues, currency falling, slow recovery lost jobs, reduced rights etc

But did you blame everything on them?

That's the question I asked.

Oh I see. You think that I blame everything on Brexit and are trying to score a nonsense point.

Sorry about that.

Seems that way yeah

That sounds like a *you* problem

Why are you trying to make it personal? I don't have a 'problem', just an observation.

Doing nothing of the sort. Just making an assumption from what I’ve seen of your posting. Just as you’ve done with me on this thread.

Go well

Oh I see, you don't like me so that means I have a 'problem', got it.

The difference here is I took what you've written on this thread alone and made my observation.

"responsible for the domino effects, supply chain issues, currency falling, slow recovery lost jobs, reduced rights etc"

You seem to have forgotten plenty more that has influenced these things in the last 7 years

I’ve forgotten nothing of the sort.

When did the falling pound commence? When did supply chain issues commence? What’s been the biggest factor in job losses? Why have we recycle recovered from Covid slower than equivalent economies in the EU?

Brexit is a substantial factor in all of these - only a fool would pretend otherwise.

Still, Sunlit uplands, eh?"

I have never argued that Brexit isn't a factor in any of those things.

I think you may have me confused for someone who voted for Brexit because was a 'good idea'.

However, I'm also not someone who thinks every problem is due to Brexit. There's many factors to a wide range of things - only a fool would pretend otherwise

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By *orleymanMan
over a year ago

Leeds


"Every day we see posts blaming Brexit for any number of things, some have the most tenuous of links to Brexit in my opinion, and that has got me thinking!

What has been the impact of Brexit to you personally?

Not brexit itself.

The main impact of the vote reducing the value of the pound . Many companies used it to simply profiteer and push prices up like the I phone.

The biggest effect was probably the bank.of England becoming more politicised and negligent by carney. Sticking to a narrative of " nothing is out fault"

The only reason we didn’t suffer more in the immediate aftermath was Carney’s excellent work.

Excellent work? Lowering the interest rate the putting it back up again 1 year later?

Wanna stick with that 1? Given the time lag of 18 mo tha for effect of interest rate policy?

Yes I want to stick with that. Carney’s work was lauded by actual economists - you know, experts. The people you don’t listen to."

No it wasn't. The investors began ignoring his " forward rate guidance"

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By *otMe66 OP   Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma

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By *otMe66 OP   Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma

So far:

Queues at the airport / travelling

retirement plans could change (not an impact yet)

import tax on one item purchased

A job loss

Reduction in the value of GBP

A problem with obtaining some medications

Process change at work

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Travel issues how much of that was knock on effect from covid and getting people back into the industry? Air traffic issues? The channel crossing is a Brexit issue for sure.

Retirement plans changing, is that more paperwork?

Import tax on an item, if it is still cheaper after tax you are still up??

GBP fluctuations, did that hit hard or has it been the high inflation rate that is causing most pain now?

Sorry about the job loss!! That is bad one.

Medication availability, not good another bad one depending on the medication.

Process change at work, assumption you are being paid to make the change?

Overall the impact so far is not as bad as I thought.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Does swapping sex partners with other couples count?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The economic impact has been dramatic and undeniable - of course the day-to-day depends on individuals, their work, their family/relationships etc. some have had to pay lots for citizenship stuff that they previously never had to consider, others have seen businesses collapse or customer bases decline.

The proof of the pudding is when even ardent brexiters struggle to give a cogent argument on what benefits we’ve seen since leaving.

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By *iketoshow74Man
over a year ago

Northampton

Not made any difference to me.

Looking at some of the comments.

Job loss: currently more vacancies than pretty much ever.

Value of £, let's see history to Euro:

1990 - 1.40

1995 - 1.20

2000 - 1.69

2007 - 1.50

2008 - 1.07

2013 - 1.16

2015 - 1.40

2017 - 1.11

2022 - 1.20

Now - 1.15

Two recent holiday abroad one in Europe. Took 15 mins both ways to get through security.

The biggest problem at the moment is bloody public sector workers striking. Happy to give you more pay if you drop your fat cat pension schemes. I pay 5% to my pension and my company matches it.

A starting nurse pays 6% and NHS pay 21%. Lower that to 6% and you have your big pay rise.

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over a year ago


"Not made any difference to me.

Looking at some of the comments.

Job loss: currently more vacancies than pretty much ever.

Value of £, let's see history to Euro:

1990 - 1.40

1995 - 1.20

2000 - 1.69

2007 - 1.50

2008 - 1.07

2013 - 1.16

2015 - 1.40

2017 - 1.11

2022 - 1.20

Now - 1.15

Two recent holiday abroad one in Europe. Took 15 mins both ways to get through security.

The biggest problem at the moment is bloody public sector workers striking. Happy to give you more pay if you drop your fat cat pension schemes. I pay 5% to my pension and my company matches it.

A starting nurse pays 6% and NHS pay 21%. Lower that to 6% and you have your big pay rise."

Enjoying that race to the bottom?

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By *rDiscretionXXXMan
over a year ago

Gilfach


"Value of £, let's see history to Euro:

1990 - 1.40

1995 - 1.20

2000 - 1.69

2007 - 1.50

2008 - 1.07

2013 - 1.16

2015 - 1.40

2017 - 1.11

2022 - 1.20

Now - 1.15

"

Thanks for that.

The Brexit view happened in 2016, so if we assume that all of the difference between the 2015 figure and the 2017 figure is down to Brexit, we get a 0.29 drop, or just over 2%.

I'm not sure that the poster that said the pound had 'plummeted' was using the right word.

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over a year ago


"Not made any difference to me.

Looking at some of the comments.

Job loss: currently more vacancies than pretty much ever.

Value of £, let's see history to Euro:

1990 - 1.40

1995 - 1.20

2000 - 1.69

2007 - 1.50

2008 - 1.07

2013 - 1.16

2015 - 1.40

2017 - 1.11

2022 - 1.20

Now - 1.15

Two recent holiday abroad one in Europe. Took 15 mins both ways to get through security.

The biggest problem at the moment is bloody public sector workers striking. Happy to give you more pay if you drop your fat cat pension schemes. I pay 5% to my pension and my company matches it.

A starting nurse pays 6% and NHS pay 21%. Lower that to 6% and you have your big pay rise."

They are entitled to strike, why don’t you get a job in the public sector if the pay is so good

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over a year ago


"Value of £, let's see history to Euro:

1990 - 1.40

1995 - 1.20

2000 - 1.69

2007 - 1.50

2008 - 1.07

2013 - 1.16

2015 - 1.40

2017 - 1.11

2022 - 1.20

Now - 1.15

Thanks for that.

The Brexit view happened in 2016, so if we assume that all of the difference between the 2015 figure and the 2017 figure is down to Brexit, we get a 0.29 drop, or just over 2%.

I'm not sure that the poster that said the pound had 'plummeted' was using the right word."

2015 1.40

Now 1.15

Not sure where you get 2% from??

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By *iketoshow74Man
over a year ago

Northampton

I didn't say the pay is really good but about 20 years ago the private sector realised that final salary type pensions were not affordable so they stopped them. However the public sector still pay massive pensions on now average salary over last 5 years which is not affordable.

But back to the topic of this thread. I agree Brexit was miss sold and there is quite a fee issues but I still think in 20 years we will be better off being outside the EU because it will implode

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"I didn't say the pay is really good but about 20 years ago the private sector realised that final salary type pensions were not affordable so they stopped them. However the public sector still pay massive pensions on now average salary over last 5 years which is not affordable.

But back to the topic of this thread. I agree Brexit was miss sold and there is quite a fee issues but I still think in 20 years we will be better off being outside the EU because it will implode"

Fair enough, why do you think the EU will implode?

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By *iketoshow74Man
over a year ago

Northampton

Greece has been bailed out 3 times now, still has a really high debt and unemployment over 16%. I think the stronger nations will not want to continue to bail them out so probably on the 10th time, plus a possibility of other weaker countries needing support, the economics don't make sense.

Also I think our economy will recover, already today the pessimistic IMF have changed the UK growth forecast for 2023 from -0.3% to +0.4%. That is a big swing and on Friday when Ofgem lower the energy price cap significantly it may well go above that.

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"Greece has been bailed out 3 times now, still has a really high debt and unemployment over 16%. I think the stronger nations will not want to continue to bail them out so probably on the 10th time, plus a possibility of other weaker countries needing support, the economics don't make sense.

Also I think our economy will recover, already today the pessimistic IMF have changed the UK growth forecast for 2023 from -0.3% to +0.4%. That is a big swing and on Friday when Ofgem lower the energy price cap significantly it may well go above that."

So the EU will implode when they have to bail out Greece 10 times? What has the UKs 0.4 % growth forecast go to do with the EU?

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By *rDiscretionXXXMan
over a year ago

Gilfach


"Value of £, let's see history to Euro:

1990 - 1.40

1995 - 1.20

2000 - 1.69

2007 - 1.50

2008 - 1.07

2013 - 1.16

2015 - 1.40

2017 - 1.11

2022 - 1.20

Now - 1.15"


"Thanks for that.

The Brexit view happened in 2016, so if we assume that all of the difference between the 2015 figure and the 2017 figure is down to Brexit, we get a 0.29 drop, or just over 2%.

I'm not sure that the poster that said the pound had 'plummeted' was using the right word."


"2015 1.40

Now 1.15

Not sure where you get 2% from??"

As I said, I took the 2015 figure - 1.40, and subtracted the 2017 figure - 1.11, to get a drop of 0.29. Then my maths went wrong and I got 2% instead of 20%.

I picked the 2017 figure to get the largest drop possible. It still isn't much of a 'plummet'.

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over a year ago


"Value of £, let's see history to Euro:

1990 - 1.40

1995 - 1.20

2000 - 1.69

2007 - 1.50

2008 - 1.07

2013 - 1.16

2015 - 1.40

2017 - 1.11

2022 - 1.20

Now - 1.15

Thanks for that.

The Brexit view happened in 2016, so if we assume that all of the difference between the 2015 figure and the 2017 figure is down to Brexit, we get a 0.29 drop, or just over 2%.

I'm not sure that the poster that said the pound had 'plummeted' was using the right word.

2015 1.40

Now 1.15

Not sure where you get 2% from??

As I said, I took the 2015 figure - 1.40, and subtracted the 2017 figure - 1.11, to get a drop of 0.29. Then my maths went wrong and I got 2% instead of 20%.

I picked the 2017 figure to get the largest drop possible. It still isn't much of a 'plummet'."

20% is definitely a ‘plummet ‘

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By *enny PR9TV/TS
over a year ago

Southport


"Value of £, let's see history to Euro:

1990 - 1.40

1995 - 1.20

2000 - 1.69

2007 - 1.50

2008 - 1.07

2013 - 1.16

2015 - 1.40

2017 - 1.11

2022 - 1.20

Now - 1.15

Thanks for that.

The Brexit view happened in 2016, so if we assume that all of the difference between the 2015 figure and the 2017 figure is down to Brexit, we get a 0.29 drop, or just over 2%.

I'm not sure that the poster that said the pound had 'plummeted' was using the right word.

2015 1.40

Now 1.15

Not sure where you get 2% from??

As I said, I took the 2015 figure - 1.40, and subtracted the 2017 figure - 1.11, to get a drop of 0.29. Then my maths went wrong and I got 2% instead of 20%.

I picked the 2017 figure to get the largest drop possible. It still isn't much of a 'plummet'."

I Remember when half-a-crown was half a Dollar if that helps.

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over a year ago


"Value of £, let's see history to Euro:

1990 - 1.40

1995 - 1.20

2000 - 1.69

2007 - 1.50

2008 - 1.07

2013 - 1.16

2015 - 1.40

2017 - 1.11

2022 - 1.20

Now - 1.15

Thanks for that.

The Brexit view happened in 2016, so if we assume that all of the difference between the 2015 figure and the 2017 figure is down to Brexit, we get a 0.29 drop, or just over 2%.

I'm not sure that the poster that said the pound had 'plummeted' was using the right word.

2015 1.40

Now 1.15

Not sure where you get 2% from??

As I said, I took the 2015 figure - 1.40, and subtracted the 2017 figure - 1.11, to get a drop of 0.29. Then my maths went wrong and I got 2% instead of 20%.

I picked the 2017 figure to get the largest drop possible. It still isn't much of a 'plummet'."

Sterling suffered its worst one-day drop in history, and went to a 30+ year low immediately during and after the referendum result.

I’m not sure what constitutes a plummet to you, but that was a pretty epic one, by anyone’s measure

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By *otMe66 OP   Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"Value of £, let's see history to Euro:

1990 - 1.40

1995 - 1.20

2000 - 1.69

2007 - 1.50

2008 - 1.07

2013 - 1.16

2015 - 1.40

2017 - 1.11

2022 - 1.20

Now - 1.15

Thanks for that.

The Brexit view happened in 2016, so if we assume that all of the difference between the 2015 figure and the 2017 figure is down to Brexit, we get a 0.29 drop, or just over 2%.

I'm not sure that the poster that said the pound had 'plummeted' was using the right word.

2015 1.40

Now 1.15

Not sure where you get 2% from??

As I said, I took the 2015 figure - 1.40, and subtracted the 2017 figure - 1.11, to get a drop of 0.29. Then my maths went wrong and I got 2% instead of 20%.

I picked the 2017 figure to get the largest drop possible. It still isn't much of a 'plummet'.

20% is definitely a ‘plummet ‘ "

It is 17.8%

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

The GBP also devalued against the USD, especially in the immediate aftermath of the Brexit referendum. So combined with a reduction against the Euro, it means pretty much everything has got more expensive for people in the UK.

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

Any fruit farmers or exporters on Fab?

“Exports of fruit from the UK to the EU, including traditional English apples and pears, have more than halved since Brexit, according to data released by HMRC."

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By *eroy1000Man
over a year ago

milton keynes


"Every day we see posts blaming Brexit for any number of things, some have the most tenuous of links to Brexit in my opinion, and that has got me thinking!

What has been the impact of Brexit to you personally?

"

So personally the biggest change for me has been much better work situation both in security and amount. I have not been abroad since covid so am yet to experience the added wait at customs. I love going to Tenerife but if the customs are bad I will probably venture elsewhere as if I'm going to be delayed at customs I may as well experience a new country. If staying in Europe then I hear Portugal allow UK people through the EU lane. Apart from that I can't think of anything else of note

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By *andyrod1Man
over a year ago

St Margaret's at Cliffe

It has limited the time l spend at my house in Greece, l will eventually move there permanently so will go through the residency route. This isn't much different from when we were in the EU as l believe the UK was the only country that had an open door policy.

My wife lived in Athens for years and had to formalise her stay in order to pay tax, access healthcare etc.

Blair and Brown let in all comers from the EU, with instant access to a whole range of benefits, this was probably what led to such dissent and Brexit in the first place.

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"Any fruit farmers or exporters on Fab?

“Exports of fruit from the UK to the EU, including traditional English apples and pears, have more than halved since Brexit, according to data released by HMRC."

"

Same as the fishing industry - more turkeys who voted for Christmas.

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By *otMe66 OP   Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"Every day we see posts blaming Brexit for any number of things, some have the most tenuous of links to Brexit in my opinion, and that has got me thinking!

What has been the impact of Brexit to you personally?

So personally the biggest change for me has been much better work situation both in security and amount. I have not been abroad since covid so am yet to experience the added wait at customs. I love going to Tenerife but if the customs are bad I will probably venture elsewhere as if I'm going to be delayed at customs I may as well experience a new country. If staying in Europe then I hear Portugal allow UK people through the EU lane. Apart from that I can't think of anything else of note"

That’s great to hear! I travel a lot and I was caught up in travel mayhem, it was down to many factors such as the air traffic strikes in France, staffing issues at the airports, strikes in the uk and I hit queues coming back in the country but not entering another.

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over a year ago


"Value of £, let's see history to Euro:

1990 - 1.40

1995 - 1.20

2000 - 1.69

2007 - 1.50

2008 - 1.07

2013 - 1.16

2015 - 1.40

2017 - 1.11

2022 - 1.20

Now - 1.15

Thanks for that.

The Brexit view happened in 2016, so if we assume that all of the difference between the 2015 figure and the 2017 figure is down to Brexit, we get a 0.29 drop, or just over 2%.

I'm not sure that the poster that said the pound had 'plummeted' was using the right word.

2015 1.40

Now 1.15

Not sure where you get 2% from??

As I said, I took the 2015 figure - 1.40, and subtracted the 2017 figure - 1.11, to get a drop of 0.29. Then my maths went wrong and I got 2% instead of 20%.

I picked the 2017 figure to get the largest drop possible. It still isn't much of a 'plummet'.

20% is definitely a ‘plummet ‘

It is 17.8%"

17.8 % is definitely a ‘plummet’

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By *otMe66 OP   Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"Any fruit farmers or exporters on Fab?

“Exports of fruit from the UK to the EU, including traditional English apples and pears, have more than halved since Brexit, according to data released by HMRC."

Same as the fishing industry - more turkeys who voted for Christmas."

What’s happened with the fishing industry, that usually gets front page?

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By *otMe66 OP   Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"Value of £, let's see history to Euro:

1990 - 1.40

1995 - 1.20

2000 - 1.69

2007 - 1.50

2008 - 1.07

2013 - 1.16

2015 - 1.40

2017 - 1.11

2022 - 1.20

Now - 1.15

Thanks for that.

The Brexit view happened in 2016, so if we assume that all of the difference between the 2015 figure and the 2017 figure is down to Brexit, we get a 0.29 drop, or just over 2%.

I'm not sure that the poster that said the pound had 'plummeted' was using the right word.

2015 1.40

Now 1.15

Not sure where you get 2% from??

As I said, I took the 2015 figure - 1.40, and subtracted the 2017 figure - 1.11, to get a drop of 0.29. Then my maths went wrong and I got 2% instead of 20%.

I picked the 2017 figure to get the largest drop possible. It still isn't much of a 'plummet'.

20% is definitely a ‘plummet ‘

It is 17.8%

17.8 % is definitely a ‘plummet’ "

I would suggest it was exaggerated a little after a rise in the £ as the polls and mood looked like a remain win.

After the result we saw the market response as the £ went south. It has settled, got better, got worse over time because this is what markets do, they play with our money. I would expect a liberal socialist to understand we are at the mercy of such markets

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By *mateur100Man
over a year ago

nr faversham

I'm worse off but you know what? A can do positive attitude can get you through almost owt

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By *aretobareCouple
over a year ago

Central Portugal

We are way better off since Brexit. It made us realise quite how unfoundedly xenophobic people around us were and how much we were paying for so little and our restrictions of movement which we loved. We moved to Europe pre Brexit and now pay a maximum of 1 euro 20 a beer, have a fabulous farm, have wonderful neighbours and a community that we care about and are involved with and that we can rely on.

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By *otMe66 OP   Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"We are way better off since Brexit. It made us realise quite how unfoundedly xenophobic people around us were and how much we were paying for so little and our restrictions of movement which we loved. We moved to Europe pre Brexit and now pay a maximum of 1 euro 20 a beer, have a fabulous farm, have wonderful neighbours and a community that we care about and are involved with and that we can rely on. "

That’s great to hear and as the poster above referred too, a can do attitude

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By *otMe66 OP   Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"So far:

Queues at the airport / travelling

retirement plans could change (not an impact yet)

import tax on one item purchased

A job loss

Reduction in the value of GBP

A problem with obtaining some medications

Process change at work

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Travel issues how much of that was knock on effect from covid and getting people back into the industry? Air traffic issues? The channel crossing is a Brexit issue for sure.

Retirement plans changing, is that more paperwork?

Import tax on an item, if it is still cheaper after tax you are still up??

GBP fluctuations, did that hit hard or has it been the high inflation rate that is causing most pain now?

Sorry about the job loss!! That is bad one.

Medication availability, not good another bad one depending on the medication.

Process change at work, assumption you are being paid to make the change?

Overall the impact so far is not as bad as I thought.

"

I was expecting a lot more, anyone else got a “personal impact” from Brexit

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

Can never get a regular supply of the wine I like. Oh the humanity!

Queues for passport control fucking suck.

Minor inconveniences but yet to see a tangible benefit of leaving the EU either.

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By *lex46TV/TS
over a year ago

Near Wells

We used to send a lot of packages to Spain, Italy and France. Now we hardly do any. Quite a significant impact on sales at work (it's my business).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Every day we see posts blaming Brexit for any number of things, some have the most tenuous of links to Brexit in my opinion, and that has got me thinking!

What has been the impact of Brexit to you personally?

"

watching you all freak out over something the majority voted for. Constantly day in and day out. Probably forever. But it has amusement merits.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Need to abort this failed experiment. The damage it has caused both seen and unseen.

We are too proud though to go back cap in hand.

Better join EFTA to save the blushes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The UK is our 51st state with issues

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over a year ago


"Any fruit farmers or exporters on Fab?

“Exports of fruit from the UK to the EU, including traditional English apples and pears, have more than halved since Brexit, according to data released by HMRC."

Same as the fishing industry - more turkeys who voted for Christmas.

What’s happened with the fishing industry, that usually gets front page?"

Same as all the other big Brexit promises - they were sold a bunch of lies, and seen none of them come to fruition. Now they’re losing money compared to pre-referendum (around 80m per annum), and suffering labour shortages

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By *otMe66 OP   Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"Any fruit farmers or exporters on Fab?

“Exports of fruit from the UK to the EU, including traditional English apples and pears, have more than halved since Brexit, according to data released by HMRC."

Same as the fishing industry - more turkeys who voted for Christmas.

What’s happened with the fishing industry, that usually gets front page?

Same as all the other big Brexit promises - they were sold a bunch of lies, and seen none of them come to fruition. Now they’re losing money compared to pre-referendum (around 80m per annum), and suffering labour shortages "

I have just had a read up on how the UK fishing industry is getting on and it seems not very well...

However this issue seems to have been festering away long before brexit was ever a thing. The fact that between 60 - 80% of fish caught in UK waters ends up in the EU and 70% of fish consumed in the UK is imported.

I wonder if more people were aware of this they would maybe change their purchasing habits to support the UK fishing industry? The other shocker was the low numbers fishing, approx 11,000.

I'm sure Brexit has increased their paperwork, but the big issue is not having a local consumer base, which is shame.

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton


"Any fruit farmers or exporters on Fab?

“Exports of fruit from the UK to the EU, including traditional English apples and pears, have more than halved since Brexit, according to data released by HMRC."

Same as the fishing industry - more turkeys who voted for Christmas.

What’s happened with the fishing industry, that usually gets front page?

Same as all the other big Brexit promises - they were sold a bunch of lies, and seen none of them come to fruition. Now they’re losing money compared to pre-referendum (around 80m per annum), and suffering labour shortages

I have just had a read up on how the UK fishing industry is getting on and it seems not very well...

However this issue seems to have been festering away long before brexit was ever a thing. The fact that between 60 - 80% of fish caught in UK waters ends up in the EU and 70% of fish consumed in the UK is imported.

I wonder if more people were aware of this they would maybe change their purchasing habits to support the UK fishing industry? The other shocker was the low numbers fishing, approx 11,000.

I'm sure Brexit has increased their paperwork, but the big issue is not having a local consumer base, which is shame."

I think that post simultaneously hits the nail on the head and underplays the issue.

The fact that British eating habits requires imported seafood while European eating habits provided exporting opportunities for indigenous seafood worked absolutely fine while we were in the EU.

Of course the current issue could be addressed by a change in diet preferences by Brits but is that going to happen?

I don’t recall the Leave campaign saying, British fisherman will be better off outside the EU as long as you all stop eating Icelandic Cod and start eating fish exclusively from British waters!

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By *otMe66 OP   Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"Any fruit farmers or exporters on Fab?

“Exports of fruit from the UK to the EU, including traditional English apples and pears, have more than halved since Brexit, according to data released by HMRC."

Same as the fishing industry - more turkeys who voted for Christmas.

What’s happened with the fishing industry, that usually gets front page?

Same as all the other big Brexit promises - they were sold a bunch of lies, and seen none of them come to fruition. Now they’re losing money compared to pre-referendum (around 80m per annum), and suffering labour shortages

I have just had a read up on how the UK fishing industry is getting on and it seems not very well...

However this issue seems to have been festering away long before brexit was ever a thing. The fact that between 60 - 80% of fish caught in UK waters ends up in the EU and 70% of fish consumed in the UK is imported.

I wonder if more people were aware of this they would maybe change their purchasing habits to support the UK fishing industry? The other shocker was the low numbers fishing, approx 11,000.

I'm sure Brexit has increased their paperwork, but the big issue is not having a local consumer base, which is shame.

I think that post simultaneously hits the nail on the head and underplays the issue.

The fact that British eating habits requires imported seafood while European eating habits provided exporting opportunities for indigenous seafood worked absolutely fine while we were in the EU.

Of course the current issue could be addressed by a change in diet preferences by Brits but is that going to happen?

I don’t recall the Leave campaign saying, British fisherman will be better off outside the EU as long as you all stop eating Icelandic Cod and start eating fish exclusively from British waters! "

The industry has been declining over many years, the main market is the EU, however that brings them into conflict with the French fleets.

It is an industry in massive decline and agreed Brexit is not a help.

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

“British households have paid £7bn since Brexit to cover the extra cost of trade barriers on food imports from the EU, according to the London School of Economics.“

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By *ermbiMan
over a year ago

Ballyshannon

The ERG has used the DUP to gain what it can to hold the people of Northern Ireland to ransom.They voted for a Brexit deal with a protocol which would give NI the best of trade with GB and the EU.

The ERG and Tories then threw the toys out of the pram and demanded changes to get what they wanted. The protocol was perfectly fine for the people of NI. The ERG has played politics with this and scaremongering about the precious union. The DUP jumped on board of course. The result is no government in NI. Services are in dire need. SAVAGE cuts to health infrastructure and education. Brexit has caused all this and the tory elite are to blame. How dare they play politics with NI for their own gain. Time to get rid of this incompetent government.

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By *mateur100Man
over a year ago

nr faversham

The question is how has Brexit impacted you. Some things are shite, some aren't but we're not suffering to an extreme point. It's how you deal with it and who's to say it would've been any better if we were still in the EU? Mystic Meg?

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By *ermbiMan
over a year ago

Ballyshannon


"The question is how has Brexit impacted you. Some things are shite, some aren't but we're not suffering to an extreme point. It's how you deal with it and who's to say it would've been any better if we were still in the EU? Mystic Meg? "

NI has no government. Roads have potholes which are not being repaired. Schools have no money and asking parents to fund basics. Waiting lists are longest in UK. This is as a result of ERG and DUP wanting changes to protocol. This is a direct result impact of brexit and is impacting every person in NI. Negative impact

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By *astandFeistyCouple
over a year ago

Bournemouth


"The question is how has Brexit impacted you. Some things are shite, some aren't but we're not suffering to an extreme point. It's how you deal with it and who's to say it would've been any better if we were still in the EU? Mystic Meg?

NI has no government. Roads have potholes which are not being repaired. Schools have no money and asking parents to fund basics. Waiting lists are longest in UK. This is as a result of ERG and DUP wanting changes to protocol. This is a direct result impact of brexit and is impacting every person in NI. Negative impact"

Apart from having no Govt, welcome to being on par with the rest of the UK

BTW, isn't your location in the Republic?

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By *ermbiMan
over a year ago

Ballyshannon


"The question is how has Brexit impacted you. Some things are shite, some aren't but we're not suffering to an extreme point. It's how you deal with it and who's to say it would've been any better if we were still in the EU? Mystic Meg?

NI has no government. Roads have potholes which are not being repaired. Schools have no money and asking parents to fund basics. Waiting lists are longest in UK. This is as a result of ERG and DUP wanting changes to protocol. This is a direct result impact of brexit and is impacting every person in NI. Negative impact

Apart from having no Govt, welcome to being on par with the rest of the UK

BTW, isn't your location in the Republic?"

I live on the border in NI. Location comes on as nearest town in Rep Ireland

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By *astandFeistyCouple
over a year ago

Bournemouth


"The question is how has Brexit impacted you. Some things are shite, some aren't but we're not suffering to an extreme point. It's how you deal with it and who's to say it would've been any better if we were still in the EU? Mystic Meg?

NI has no government. Roads have potholes which are not being repaired. Schools have no money and asking parents to fund basics. Waiting lists are longest in UK. This is as a result of ERG and DUP wanting changes to protocol. This is a direct result impact of brexit and is impacting every person in NI. Negative impact

Apart from having no Govt, welcome to being on par with the rest of the UK

BTW, isn't your location in the Republic?

I live on the border in NI. Location comes on as nearest town in Rep Ireland"

Fair enough.

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By *oodvibrations68Couple
over a year ago

Lake Constance

We left the UK.

Weak pound after house sale wasn't great.

Literally impossible to buy UK produce these days - only one of four webshops selling decent UK cider in Germany left with extremely limited stocks...

Funnily enough, when Aldi does an 'English Week' about twice a year ...it' s now mostly Irish produce ....

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By *ools and the brainCouple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

As a member of the building trade brexit has been a positive for more Jobs available and wage's increased due to the lack of cheap European labour employers and being forced to pay what we are worth, after many years of stagnant wage's and poor treatment by employers.

Unfortunately many trades had left the industry in this time and the skills shortage is as bad now as ever it was.

The government and employer's not investing in training,the decline in proper apprenticeships and of course young people who are not interested in manual labour type jobs all wanting to be YouTubers and the like.

But brexit has left a shortage of people willing to do jobs that lazy Brit's are unwilling to do right across the board, hospitality has probably been the hardest hit, pub's restaurants, hotels unable to get staff.

Meanwhile the government trying to encourage everyone to go to university rack up huge debt's and be totally overqualified for the job they'll probably end up doing, being unable to pay student debt and subsequently the debts falling into the taxpayers pockets.

Vicious circle.

So positive for myself and short term for those in job's that had been massively affected by cheap European labour.

In the long run I dunno, attitudes need to change right from primary school age yes encourage children to aim high but also a realistic approach to work understanding that starting from the bottom of the employment ladder is not a bad thing.

Getting rid of bloody agency work so low paid jobs at least have job security with people being directly employed.

It's something that is going to take decades to resolve ultimately I think it'll never come about as we'll probably have to rejoin the EU after swallowing a massive slice of humble pie first.

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
over a year ago

Hastings


"So far:

Queues at the airport / travelling

retirement plans could change (not an impact yet)

import tax on one item purchased

A job loss

Reduction in the value of GBP

A problem with obtaining some medications

Process change at work

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Travel issues how much of that was knock on effect from covid and getting people back into the industry? Air traffic issues? The channel crossing is a Brexit issue for sure.

Retirement plans changing, is that more paperwork?

Import tax on an item, if it is still cheaper after tax you are still up??

GBP fluctuations, did that hit hard or has it been the high inflation rate that is causing most pain now?

Sorry about the job loss!! That is bad one.

Medication availability, not good another bad one depending on the medication.

Process change at work, assumption you are being paid to make the change?

Overall the impact so far is not as bad as I thought.

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For me I don't see any real change apart from wages going up with the reduction in cheep forin labour. So shopping has gone up but income increase has more than covered it.

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
over a year ago

Hastings


"The economic impact has been dramatic and undeniable - of course the day-to-day depends on individuals, their work, their family/relationships etc. some have had to pay lots for citizenship stuff that they previously never had to consider, others have seen businesses collapse or customer bases decline.

The proof of the pudding is when even ardent brexiters struggle to give a cogent argument on what benefits we’ve seen since leaving. "

Sorry you say The economic impact can you be more specific as I personally have not seen it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For me Brexit added to global warming if not solely responsible

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
over a year ago

Hastings


"Value of £, let's see history to Euro:

1990 - 1.40

1995 - 1.20

2000 - 1.69

2007 - 1.50

2008 - 1.07

2013 - 1.16

2015 - 1.40

2017 - 1.11

2022 - 1.20

Now - 1.15

Thanks for that.

The Brexit view happened in 2016, so if we assume that all of the difference between the 2015 figure and the 2017 figure is down to Brexit, we get a 0.29 drop, or just over 2%.

I'm not sure that the poster that said the pound had 'plummeted' was using the right word.

2015 1.40

Now 1.15

Not sure where you get 2% from??

As I said, I took the 2015 figure - 1.40, and subtracted the 2017 figure - 1.11, to get a drop of 0.29. Then my maths went wrong and I got 2% instead of 20%.

I picked the 2017 figure to get the largest drop possible. It still isn't much of a 'plummet'.

Sterling suffered its worst one-day drop in history, and went to a 30+ year low immediately during and after the referendum result.

I’m not sure what constitutes a plummet to you, but that was a pretty epic one, by anyone’s measure

"

Gold value is stable. Bit coin is more un stable than the pound it all goes up and down like everything in life.

Herd to day there will not be help for people with interest rats going up there was no help in the late 80s

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over a year ago


"The economic impact has been dramatic and undeniable - of course the day-to-day depends on individuals, their work, their family/relationships etc. some have had to pay lots for citizenship stuff that they previously never had to consider, others have seen businesses collapse or customer bases decline.

The proof of the pudding is when even ardent brexiters struggle to give a cogent argument on what benefits we’ve seen since leaving.

Sorry you say The economic impact can you be more specific as I personally have not seen it. "

Productivity down. Imports down. Exports down. New deals insufficient to replace lost trade.

From the OBR: https://obr.uk/forecasts-in-depth/the-economy-forecast/brexit-analysis/#assumptions

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields


"The economic impact has been dramatic and undeniable - of course the day-to-day depends on individuals, their work, their family/relationships etc. some have had to pay lots for citizenship stuff that they previously never had to consider, others have seen businesses collapse or customer bases decline.

The proof of the pudding is when even ardent brexiters struggle to give a cogent argument on what benefits we’ve seen since leaving.

Sorry you say The economic impact can you be more specific as I personally have not seen it. "

There's a hermit in Snowdonia who also hasn't seen the economic impact.

Allegedly.

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By *oubleswing2019Man
over a year ago

Colchester

One benefit is the uptick in wages, due to much foreign labour leaving for their home EU countries. So from a socialist perspective, Brexit has done more to help those on lower wages than many unions ever have achieved.

My friend's business is now recruiting from non-EU overseas countries, and there are plenty of Jamaican and Philippino workers (for example) chomping at the bit to work in hospitality / healthcare / construction on short-term visas.

We've helped Poland for a very long time and their economy has done well, so it's not such a bad idea to let less fortunate countries have a go. We're one of the richest nations on the earth.

In return, having a bit of soft-power, especially on China's doorstep isn't such a bad thing.

I'd like to see us extend an offer to Taiwan if they have any spare labour going

Bottom line, there is a lot of labour out there, but it's in the wrong places, but not impossible to bring in.

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By *otMe66 OP   Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"The economic impact has been dramatic and undeniable - of course the day-to-day depends on individuals, their work, their family/relationships etc. some have had to pay lots for citizenship stuff that they previously never had to consider, others have seen businesses collapse or customer bases decline.

The proof of the pudding is when even ardent brexiters struggle to give a cogent argument on what benefits we’ve seen since leaving.

Sorry you say The economic impact can you be more specific as I personally have not seen it.

Productivity down. Imports down. Exports down. New deals insufficient to replace lost trade.

From the OBR: https://obr.uk/forecasts-in-depth/the-economy-forecast/brexit-analysis/#assumptions"

How has this impacted you directly?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The economic impact has been dramatic and undeniable - of course the day-to-day depends on individuals, their work, their family/relationships etc. some have had to pay lots for citizenship stuff that they previously never had to consider, others have seen businesses collapse or customer bases decline.

The proof of the pudding is when even ardent brexiters struggle to give a cogent argument on what benefits we’ve seen since leaving.

Sorry you say The economic impact can you be more specific as I personally have not seen it.

Productivity down. Imports down. Exports down. New deals insufficient to replace lost trade.

From the OBR: https://obr.uk/forecasts-in-depth/the-economy-forecast/brexit-analysis/#assumptions

How has this impacted you directly? "

The economy impacts everyone directly, does it not?

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By *otMe66 OP   Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma

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By *otMe66 OP   Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"The economic impact has been dramatic and undeniable - of course the day-to-day depends on individuals, their work, their family/relationships etc. some have had to pay lots for citizenship stuff that they previously never had to consider, others have seen businesses collapse or customer bases decline.

The proof of the pudding is when even ardent brexiters struggle to give a cogent argument on what benefits we’ve seen since leaving.

Sorry you say The economic impact can you be more specific as I personally have not seen it.

Productivity down. Imports down. Exports down. New deals insufficient to replace lost trade.

From the OBR: https://obr.uk/forecasts-in-depth/the-economy-forecast/brexit-analysis/#assumptions

How has this impacted you directly?

The economy impacts everyone directly, does it not? "

that is a question not an answer

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds


"

There's a hermit in Snowdonia who also hasn't seen the economic impact.

Allegedly."

Yr Wyddfa ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The economic impact has been dramatic and undeniable - of course the day-to-day depends on individuals, their work, their family/relationships etc. some have had to pay lots for citizenship stuff that they previously never had to consider, others have seen businesses collapse or customer bases decline.

The proof of the pudding is when even ardent brexiters struggle to give a cogent argument on what benefits we’ve seen since leaving.

Sorry you say The economic impact can you be more specific as I personally have not seen it.

Productivity down. Imports down. Exports down. New deals insufficient to replace lost trade.

From the OBR: https://obr.uk/forecasts-in-depth/the-economy-forecast/brexit-analysis/#assumptions

How has this impacted you directly?

The economy impacts everyone directly, does it not?

that is a question not an answer"

Ok.

The economy impacts everyone directly.

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By *otMe66 OP   Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"The economic impact has been dramatic and undeniable - of course the day-to-day depends on individuals, their work, their family/relationships etc. some have had to pay lots for citizenship stuff that they previously never had to consider, others have seen businesses collapse or customer bases decline.

The proof of the pudding is when even ardent brexiters struggle to give a cogent argument on what benefits we’ve seen since leaving.

Sorry you say The economic impact can you be more specific as I personally have not seen it.

Productivity down. Imports down. Exports down. New deals insufficient to replace lost trade.

From the OBR: https://obr.uk/forecasts-in-depth/the-economy-forecast/brexit-analysis/#assumptions

How has this impacted you directly?

The economy impacts everyone directly, does it not?

that is a question not an answer

Ok.

The economy impacts everyone directly."

And how has it impacted you directly

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By *astandFeistyCouple
over a year ago

Bournemouth


"The economic impact has been dramatic and undeniable - of course the day-to-day depends on individuals, their work, their family/relationships etc. some have had to pay lots for citizenship stuff that they previously never had to consider, others have seen businesses collapse or customer bases decline.

The proof of the pudding is when even ardent brexiters struggle to give a cogent argument on what benefits we’ve seen since leaving.

Sorry you say The economic impact can you be more specific as I personally have not seen it.

Productivity down. Imports down. Exports down. New deals insufficient to replace lost trade.

From the OBR: https://obr.uk/forecasts-in-depth/the-economy-forecast/brexit-analysis/#assumptions

How has this impacted you directly?

The economy impacts everyone directly, does it not?

that is a question not an answer

Ok.

The economy impacts everyone directly."

All of the things you listed surely impact you indirectly. Not directly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The economic impact has been dramatic and undeniable - of course the day-to-day depends on individuals, their work, their family/relationships etc. some have had to pay lots for citizenship stuff that they previously never had to consider, others have seen businesses collapse or customer bases decline.

The proof of the pudding is when even ardent brexiters struggle to give a cogent argument on what benefits we’ve seen since leaving.

Sorry you say The economic impact can you be more specific as I personally have not seen it.

Productivity down. Imports down. Exports down. New deals insufficient to replace lost trade.

From the OBR: https://obr.uk/forecasts-in-depth/the-economy-forecast/brexit-analysis/#assumptions

How has this impacted you directly?

The economy impacts everyone directly, does it not?

that is a question not an answer

Ok.

The economy impacts everyone directly.

All of the things you listed surely impact you indirectly. Not directly.

"

A weakened pound impacts me directly. Loss of FoM impacts me directly.

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By *otMe66 OP   Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"The economic impact has been dramatic and undeniable - of course the day-to-day depends on individuals, their work, their family/relationships etc. some have had to pay lots for citizenship stuff that they previously never had to consider, others have seen businesses collapse or customer bases decline.

The proof of the pudding is when even ardent brexiters struggle to give a cogent argument on what benefits we’ve seen since leaving.

Sorry you say The economic impact can you be more specific as I personally have not seen it.

Productivity down. Imports down. Exports down. New deals insufficient to replace lost trade.

From the OBR: https://obr.uk/forecasts-in-depth/the-economy-forecast/brexit-analysis/#assumptions

How has this impacted you directly?

The economy impacts everyone directly, does it not?

that is a question not an answer

Ok.

The economy impacts everyone directly.

All of the things you listed surely impact you indirectly. Not directly.

A weakened pound impacts me directly. Loss of FoM impacts me directly. "

Can you tell me how many times you were in the EU greater than 3 months in every 6 over the last 10 years.

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By *astandFeistyCouple
over a year ago

Bournemouth


"The economic impact has been dramatic and undeniable - of course the day-to-day depends on individuals, their work, their family/relationships etc. some have had to pay lots for citizenship stuff that they previously never had to consider, others have seen businesses collapse or customer bases decline.

The proof of the pudding is when even ardent brexiters struggle to give a cogent argument on what benefits we’ve seen since leaving.

Sorry you say The economic impact can you be more specific as I personally have not seen it.

Productivity down. Imports down. Exports down. New deals insufficient to replace lost trade.

From the OBR: https://obr.uk/forecasts-in-depth/the-economy-forecast/brexit-analysis/#assumptions

How has this impacted you directly?

The economy impacts everyone directly, does it not?

that is a question not an answer

Ok.

The economy impacts everyone directly.

All of the things you listed surely impact you indirectly. Not directly.

A weakened pound impacts me directly. Loss of FoM impacts me directly. "

You said:

"Productivity down. Imports down. Exports down. New deals insufficient to replace lost trade."

That's what you listed, you're now moving the goalposts.

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"The economic impact has been dramatic and undeniable - of course the day-to-day depends on individuals, their work, their family/relationships etc. some have had to pay lots for citizenship stuff that they previously never had to consider, others have seen businesses collapse or customer bases decline.

The proof of the pudding is when even ardent brexiters struggle to give a cogent argument on what benefits we’ve seen since leaving.

Sorry you say The economic impact can you be more specific as I personally have not seen it.

Productivity down. Imports down. Exports down. New deals insufficient to replace lost trade.

From the OBR: https://obr.uk/forecasts-in-depth/the-economy-forecast/brexit-analysis/#assumptions

How has this impacted you directly?

The economy impacts everyone directly, does it not?

that is a question not an answer

Ok.

The economy impacts everyone directly.

All of the things you listed surely impact you indirectly. Not directly.

A weakened pound impacts me directly. Loss of FoM impacts me directly.

You said:

"Productivity down. Imports down. Exports down. New deals insufficient to replace lost trade."

That's what you listed, you're now moving the goalposts.

"

All of which impact the economy, do they not?

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds


"

Can you tell me how many times you were in the EU greater than 3 months in every 6 over the last 10 years.

"

My daughter was a University exchange student in Madrid for a year. That isn't possible now.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Living and working in the EU is not so easily done now

Inflation up, product availability tougher. Poorer with lower quality of life

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The economic impact has been dramatic and undeniable - of course the day-to-day depends on individuals, their work, their family/relationships etc. some have had to pay lots for citizenship stuff that they previously never had to consider, others have seen businesses collapse or customer bases decline.

The proof of the pudding is when even ardent brexiters struggle to give a cogent argument on what benefits we’ve seen since leaving.

Sorry you say The economic impact can you be more specific as I personally have not seen it.

Productivity down. Imports down. Exports down. New deals insufficient to replace lost trade.

From the OBR: https://obr.uk/forecasts-in-depth/the-economy-forecast/brexit-analysis/#assumptions

How has this impacted you directly?

The economy impacts everyone directly, does it not?

that is a question not an answer

Ok.

The economy impacts everyone directly.

All of the things you listed surely impact you indirectly. Not directly.

A weakened pound impacts me directly. Loss of FoM impacts me directly.

Can you tell me how many times you were in the EU greater than 3 months in every 6 over the last 10 years.

"

I can tell you I was planning on retiring to Italy (as I’ve told you before)

So the loss of FoM impacts me directly.

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By *astandFeistyCouple
over a year ago

Bournemouth


"The economic impact has been dramatic and undeniable - of course the day-to-day depends on individuals, their work, their family/relationships etc. some have had to pay lots for citizenship stuff that they previously never had to consider, others have seen businesses collapse or customer bases decline.

The proof of the pudding is when even ardent brexiters struggle to give a cogent argument on what benefits we’ve seen since leaving.

Sorry you say The economic impact can you be more specific as I personally have not seen it.

Productivity down. Imports down. Exports down. New deals insufficient to replace lost trade.

From the OBR: https://obr.uk/forecasts-in-depth/the-economy-forecast/brexit-analysis/#assumptions

How has this impacted you directly?

The economy impacts everyone directly, does it not?

that is a question not an answer

Ok.

The economy impacts everyone directly.

All of the things you listed surely impact you indirectly. Not directly.

A weakened pound impacts me directly. Loss of FoM impacts me directly.

You said:

"Productivity down. Imports down. Exports down. New deals insufficient to replace lost trade."

That's what you listed, you're now moving the goalposts.

All of which impact the economy, do they not? "

Which indirectly affects you.

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By *astandFeistyCouple
over a year ago

Bournemouth


"

Can you tell me how many times you were in the EU greater than 3 months in every 6 over the last 10 years.

My daughter was a University exchange student in Madrid for a year. That isn't possible now. "

Yes it is. Although, a visa is needed

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By *otMe66 OP   Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"The economic impact has been dramatic and undeniable - of course the day-to-day depends on individuals, their work, their family/relationships etc. some have had to pay lots for citizenship stuff that they previously never had to consider, others have seen businesses collapse or customer bases decline.

The proof of the pudding is when even ardent brexiters struggle to give a cogent argument on what benefits we’ve seen since leaving.

Sorry you say The economic impact can you be more specific as I personally have not seen it.

Productivity down. Imports down. Exports down. New deals insufficient to replace lost trade.

From the OBR: https://obr.uk/forecasts-in-depth/the-economy-forecast/brexit-analysis/#assumptions

How has this impacted you directly?

The economy impacts everyone directly, does it not?

that is a question not an answer

Ok.

The economy impacts everyone directly.

All of the things you listed surely impact you indirectly. Not directly.

A weakened pound impacts me directly. Loss of FoM impacts me directly.

Can you tell me how many times you were in the EU greater than 3 months in every 6 over the last 10 years.

I can tell you I was planning on retiring to Italy (as I’ve told you before)

So the loss of FoM impacts me directly.

"

You can still do that, only now you will need to apply directly.

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By *otMe66 OP   Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"

Can you tell me how many times you were in the EU greater than 3 months in every 6 over the last 10 years.

My daughter was a University exchange student in Madrid for a year. That isn't possible now.

Yes it is. Although, a visa is needed"

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By *otMe66 OP   Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"Living and working in the EU is not so easily done now

Inflation up, product availability tougher. Poorer with lower quality of life "

It has a couple of extra steps but a digital nomad visa basically gives you back freedom of movement in the EU

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds


"

My daughter was a University exchange student in Madrid for a year. That isn't possible now.

Yes it is. Although, a visa is needed

"

From September 2021 the UK is no longer part of the ERASMUS scheme

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The economic impact has been dramatic and undeniable - of course the day-to-day depends on individuals, their work, their family/relationships etc. some have had to pay lots for citizenship stuff that they previously never had to consider, others have seen businesses collapse or customer bases decline.

The proof of the pudding is when even ardent brexiters struggle to give a cogent argument on what benefits we’ve seen since leaving.

Sorry you say The economic impact can you be more specific as I personally have not seen it.

Productivity down. Imports down. Exports down. New deals insufficient to replace lost trade.

From the OBR: https://obr.uk/forecasts-in-depth/the-economy-forecast/brexit-analysis/#assumptions

How has this impacted you directly?

The economy impacts everyone directly, does it not?

that is a question not an answer

Ok.

The economy impacts everyone directly.

All of the things you listed surely impact you indirectly. Not directly.

A weakened pound impacts me directly. Loss of FoM impacts me directly.

Can you tell me how many times you were in the EU greater than 3 months in every 6 over the last 10 years.

I can tell you I was planning on retiring to Italy (as I’ve told you before)

So the loss of FoM impacts me directly.

You can still do that, only now you will need to apply directly."

And that visa can be refused, withdrawn etc, and had a cost attached.

So we’re agreed that Brexit has impacted me directly.

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By *astandFeistyCouple
over a year ago

Bournemouth


"

My daughter was a University exchange student in Madrid for a year. That isn't possible now.

Yes it is. Although, a visa is needed

From September 2021 the UK is no longer part of the ERASMUS scheme"

But it has the Turing Scheme. Besides, you don't need a scheme to study abroad.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The economic impact has been dramatic and undeniable - of course the day-to-day depends on individuals, their work, their family/relationships etc. some have had to pay lots for citizenship stuff that they previously never had to consider, others have seen businesses collapse or customer bases decline.

The proof of the pudding is when even ardent brexiters struggle to give a cogent argument on what benefits we’ve seen since leaving.

Sorry you say The economic impact can you be more specific as I personally have not seen it.

Productivity down. Imports down. Exports down. New deals insufficient to replace lost trade.

From the OBR: https://obr.uk/forecasts-in-depth/the-economy-forecast/brexit-analysis/#assumptions

How has this impacted you directly?

The economy impacts everyone directly, does it not?

that is a question not an answer

Ok.

The economy impacts everyone directly.

All of the things you listed surely impact you indirectly. Not directly.

A weakened pound impacts me directly. Loss of FoM impacts me directly.

You said:

"Productivity down. Imports down. Exports down. New deals insufficient to replace lost trade."

That's what you listed, you're now moving the goalposts.

All of which impact the economy, do they not?

Which indirectly affects you."

A weekend pound impacts me indirectly?

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By *otMe66 OP   Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"The economic impact has been dramatic and undeniable - of course the day-to-day depends on individuals, their work, their family/relationships etc. some have had to pay lots for citizenship stuff that they previously never had to consider, others have seen businesses collapse or customer bases decline.

The proof of the pudding is when even ardent brexiters struggle to give a cogent argument on what benefits we’ve seen since leaving.

Sorry you say The economic impact can you be more specific as I personally have not seen it.

Productivity down. Imports down. Exports down. New deals insufficient to replace lost trade.

From the OBR: https://obr.uk/forecasts-in-depth/the-economy-forecast/brexit-analysis/#assumptions

How has this impacted you directly?

The economy impacts everyone directly, does it not?

that is a question not an answer

Ok.

The economy impacts everyone directly.

All of the things you listed surely impact you indirectly. Not directly.

A weakened pound impacts me directly. Loss of FoM impacts me directly.

Can you tell me how many times you were in the EU greater than 3 months in every 6 over the last 10 years.

I can tell you I was planning on retiring to Italy (as I’ve told you before)

So the loss of FoM impacts me directly.

You can still do that, only now you will need to apply directly.

And that visa can be refused, withdrawn etc, and had a cost attached.

So we’re agreed that Brexit has impacted me directly. "

It can be refused but highly unlikely if you meet the required entrance criteria. It will only have an impact when you choose to make the move, and by then things might have changed again.

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds


"

A weekend pound impacts me indirectly?

"

You can't spend it Monday to Friday

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The economic impact has been dramatic and undeniable - of course the day-to-day depends on individuals, their work, their family/relationships etc. some have had to pay lots for citizenship stuff that they previously never had to consider, others have seen businesses collapse or customer bases decline.

The proof of the pudding is when even ardent brexiters struggle to give a cogent argument on what benefits we’ve seen since leaving.

Sorry you say The economic impact can you be more specific as I personally have not seen it.

Productivity down. Imports down. Exports down. New deals insufficient to replace lost trade.

From the OBR: https://obr.uk/forecasts-in-depth/the-economy-forecast/brexit-analysis/#assumptions

How has this impacted you directly?

The economy impacts everyone directly, does it not?

that is a question not an answer

Ok.

The economy impacts everyone directly.

All of the things you listed surely impact you indirectly. Not directly.

A weakened pound impacts me directly. Loss of FoM impacts me directly.

Can you tell me how many times you were in the EU greater than 3 months in every 6 over the last 10 years.

I can tell you I was planning on retiring to Italy (as I’ve told you before)

So the loss of FoM impacts me directly.

You can still do that, only now you will need to apply directly.

And that visa can be refused, withdrawn etc, and had a cost attached.

So we’re agreed that Brexit has impacted me directly.

It can be refused but highly unlikely if you meet the required entrance criteria. It will only have an impact when you choose to make the move, and by then things might have changed again. "

So once again, brexit has impacted me directly.

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By *astandFeistyCouple
over a year ago

Bournemouth


"The economic impact has been dramatic and undeniable - of course the day-to-day depends on individuals, their work, their family/relationships etc. some have had to pay lots for citizenship stuff that they previously never had to consider, others have seen businesses collapse or customer bases decline.

The proof of the pudding is when even ardent brexiters struggle to give a cogent argument on what benefits we’ve seen since leaving.

Sorry you say The economic impact can you be more specific as I personally have not seen it.

Productivity down. Imports down. Exports down. New deals insufficient to replace lost trade.

From the OBR: https://obr.uk/forecasts-in-depth/the-economy-forecast/brexit-analysis/#assumptions

How has this impacted you directly?

The economy impacts everyone directly, does it not?

that is a question not an answer

Ok.

The economy impacts everyone directly.

All of the things you listed surely impact you indirectly. Not directly.

A weakened pound impacts me directly. Loss of FoM impacts me directly.

You said:

"Productivity down. Imports down. Exports down. New deals insufficient to replace lost trade."

That's what you listed, you're now moving the goalposts.

All of which impact the economy, do they not?

Which indirectly affects you.

A weekend pound impacts me indirectly?

"

You didn't list a weakened pound.

Besides, unless you're trading abroad, it doesn't affect you directly.

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham


"

My daughter was a University exchange student in Madrid for a year. That isn't possible now.

Yes it is. Although, a visa is needed

From September 2021 the UK is no longer part of the ERASMUS scheme

But it has the Turing Scheme. Besides, you don't need a scheme to study abroad."

My God-daughter has spent the last Two years studying at Valencia University.

She now has moved to Spain, and is working as a teacher.

So to say things can't be done, is a falsehood.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The economic impact has been dramatic and undeniable - of course the day-to-day depends on individuals, their work, their family/relationships etc. some have had to pay lots for citizenship stuff that they previously never had to consider, others have seen businesses collapse or customer bases decline.

The proof of the pudding is when even ardent brexiters struggle to give a cogent argument on what benefits we’ve seen since leaving.

Sorry you say The economic impact can you be more specific as I personally have not seen it.

Productivity down. Imports down. Exports down. New deals insufficient to replace lost trade.

From the OBR: https://obr.uk/forecasts-in-depth/the-economy-forecast/brexit-analysis/#assumptions

How has this impacted you directly?

The economy impacts everyone directly, does it not?

that is a question not an answer

Ok.

The economy impacts everyone directly.

All of the things you listed surely impact you indirectly. Not directly.

A weakened pound impacts me directly. Loss of FoM impacts me directly.

You said:

"Productivity down. Imports down. Exports down. New deals insufficient to replace lost trade."

That's what you listed, you're now moving the goalposts.

All of which impact the economy, do they not?

Which indirectly affects you.

A weekend pound impacts me indirectly?

You didn't list a weakened pound.

Besides, unless you're trading abroad, it doesn't affect you directly."

You know a weakened currency also impacts businesses and production, which then in turn….

I suppose if you don’t buy any food, goods, fuel…then maybe you could argue that a weakened currency doesn’t affect you.

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By *astandFeistyCouple
over a year ago

Bournemouth


"The economic impact has been dramatic and undeniable - of course the day-to-day depends on individuals, their work, their family/relationships etc. some have had to pay lots for citizenship stuff that they previously never had to consider, others have seen businesses collapse or customer bases decline.

The proof of the pudding is when even ardent brexiters struggle to give a cogent argument on what benefits we’ve seen since leaving.

Sorry you say The economic impact can you be more specific as I personally have not seen it.

Productivity down. Imports down. Exports down. New deals insufficient to replace lost trade.

From the OBR: https://obr.uk/forecasts-in-depth/the-economy-forecast/brexit-analysis/#assumptions

How has this impacted you directly?

The economy impacts everyone directly, does it not?

that is a question not an answer

Ok.

The economy impacts everyone directly.

All of the things you listed surely impact you indirectly. Not directly.

A weakened pound impacts me directly. Loss of FoM impacts me directly.

You said:

"Productivity down. Imports down. Exports down. New deals insufficient to replace lost trade."

That's what you listed, you're now moving the goalposts.

All of which impact the economy, do they not?

Which indirectly affects you.

A weekend pound impacts me indirectly?

You didn't list a weakened pound.

Besides, unless you're trading abroad, it doesn't affect you directly.

You know a weakened currency also impacts businesses and production, which then in turn….

I suppose if you don’t buy any food, goods, fuel…then maybe you could argue that a weakened currency doesn’t affect you.

"

'Which in turn' ie. indirectly.

It really doesn't have to be this hard

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

My daughter was a University exchange student in Madrid for a year. That isn't possible now.

Yes it is. Although, a visa is needed

From September 2021 the UK is no longer part of the ERASMUS scheme

But it has the Turing Scheme. Besides, you don't need a scheme to study abroad.

My God-daughter has spent the last Two years studying at Valencia University.

She now has moved to Spain, and is working as a teacher.

So to say things can't be done, is a falsehood."

Nobody is saying things can’t be done. People are saying things have been impacted.

Turing on the whole isn’t as good as Erasmus (and we could have expanded study beyond Europe as an EU member regardless).

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By *astandFeistyCouple
over a year ago

Bournemouth


"

My daughter was a University exchange student in Madrid for a year. That isn't possible now.

Yes it is. Although, a visa is needed

From September 2021 the UK is no longer part of the ERASMUS scheme

But it has the Turing Scheme. Besides, you don't need a scheme to study abroad.

My God-daughter has spent the last Two years studying at Valencia University.

She now has moved to Spain, and is working as a teacher.

So to say things can't be done, is a falsehood.

Nobody is saying things can’t be done. People are saying things have been impacted.

Turing on the whole isn’t as good as Erasmus (and we could have expanded study beyond Europe as an EU member regardless)."

'That isn't possible now'

You really need to read before replying.

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By *otMe66 OP   Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"The economic impact has been dramatic and undeniable - of course the day-to-day depends on individuals, their work, their family/relationships etc. some have had to pay lots for citizenship stuff that they previously never had to consider, others have seen businesses collapse or customer bases decline.

The proof of the pudding is when even ardent brexiters struggle to give a cogent argument on what benefits we’ve seen since leaving.

Sorry you say The economic impact can you be more specific as I personally have not seen it.

Productivity down. Imports down. Exports down. New deals insufficient to replace lost trade.

From the OBR: https://obr.uk/forecasts-in-depth/the-economy-forecast/brexit-analysis/#assumptions

How has this impacted you directly?

The economy impacts everyone directly, does it not?

that is a question not an answer

Ok.

The economy impacts everyone directly.

All of the things you listed surely impact you indirectly. Not directly.

A weakened pound impacts me directly. Loss of FoM impacts me directly.

Can you tell me how many times you were in the EU greater than 3 months in every 6 over the last 10 years.

I can tell you I was planning on retiring to Italy (as I’ve told you before)

So the loss of FoM impacts me directly.

You can still do that, only now you will need to apply directly.

And that visa can be refused, withdrawn etc, and had a cost attached.

So we’re agreed that Brexit has impacted me directly.

It can be refused but highly unlikely if you meet the required entrance criteria. It will only have an impact when you choose to make the move, and by then things might have changed again.

So once again, brexit has impacted me directly. "

It will not impact you until you decide to move.

It will impact you now if you know for a fact that you do not meet the entry criteria to retire in Italy.

Which one is it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The economic impact has been dramatic and undeniable - of course the day-to-day depends on individuals, their work, their family/relationships etc. some have had to pay lots for citizenship stuff that they previously never had to consider, others have seen businesses collapse or customer bases decline.

The proof of the pudding is when even ardent brexiters struggle to give a cogent argument on what benefits we’ve seen since leaving.

Sorry you say The economic impact can you be more specific as I personally have not seen it.

Productivity down. Imports down. Exports down. New deals insufficient to replace lost trade.

From the OBR: https://obr.uk/forecasts-in-depth/the-economy-forecast/brexit-analysis/#assumptions

How has this impacted you directly?

The economy impacts everyone directly, does it not?

that is a question not an answer

Ok.

The economy impacts everyone directly.

All of the things you listed surely impact you indirectly. Not directly.

A weakened pound impacts me directly. Loss of FoM impacts me directly.

You said:

"Productivity down. Imports down. Exports down. New deals insufficient to replace lost trade."

That's what you listed, you're now moving the goalposts.

All of which impact the economy, do they not?

Which indirectly affects you.

A weekend pound impacts me indirectly?

You didn't list a weakened pound.

Besides, unless you're trading abroad, it doesn't affect you directly.

You know a weakened currency also impacts businesses and production, which then in turn….

I suppose if you don’t buy any food, goods, fuel…then maybe you could argue that a weakened currency doesn’t affect you.

'Which in turn' ie. indirectly.

It really doesn't have to be this hard "

The OP says ‘personally’

I’d argue that we’ve all been impacted personally, for the reasons I’ve outlined.

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By *astandFeistyCouple
over a year ago

Bournemouth


"The economic impact has been dramatic and undeniable - of course the day-to-day depends on individuals, their work, their family/relationships etc. some have had to pay lots for citizenship stuff that they previously never had to consider, others have seen businesses collapse or customer bases decline.

The proof of the pudding is when even ardent brexiters struggle to give a cogent argument on what benefits we’ve seen since leaving.

Sorry you say The economic impact can you be more specific as I personally have not seen it.

Productivity down. Imports down. Exports down. New deals insufficient to replace lost trade.

From the OBR: https://obr.uk/forecasts-in-depth/the-economy-forecast/brexit-analysis/#assumptions

How has this impacted you directly?

The economy impacts everyone directly, does it not?

that is a question not an answer

Ok.

The economy impacts everyone directly.

All of the things you listed surely impact you indirectly. Not directly.

A weakened pound impacts me directly. Loss of FoM impacts me directly.

You said:

"Productivity down. Imports down. Exports down. New deals insufficient to replace lost trade."

That's what you listed, you're now moving the goalposts.

All of which impact the economy, do they not?

Which indirectly affects you.

A weekend pound impacts me indirectly?

You didn't list a weakened pound.

Besides, unless you're trading abroad, it doesn't affect you directly.

You know a weakened currency also impacts businesses and production, which then in turn….

I suppose if you don’t buy any food, goods, fuel…then maybe you could argue that a weakened currency doesn’t affect you.

'Which in turn' ie. indirectly.

It really doesn't have to be this hard

The OP says ‘personally’

I’d argue that we’ve all been impacted personally, for the reasons I’ve outlined.

"

You've been arguing 'directly'. As I said, it doesn't have to be this hard.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The economic impact has been dramatic and undeniable - of course the day-to-day depends on individuals, their work, their family/relationships etc. some have had to pay lots for citizenship stuff that they previously never had to consider, others have seen businesses collapse or customer bases decline.

The proof of the pudding is when even ardent brexiters struggle to give a cogent argument on what benefits we’ve seen since leaving.

Sorry you say The economic impact can you be more specific as I personally have not seen it.

Productivity down. Imports down. Exports down. New deals insufficient to replace lost trade.

From the OBR: https://obr.uk/forecasts-in-depth/the-economy-forecast/brexit-analysis/#assumptions

How has this impacted you directly?

The economy impacts everyone directly, does it not?

that is a question not an answer

Ok.

The economy impacts everyone directly.

All of the things you listed surely impact you indirectly. Not directly.

A weakened pound impacts me directly. Loss of FoM impacts me directly.

Can you tell me how many times you were in the EU greater than 3 months in every 6 over the last 10 years.

I can tell you I was planning on retiring to Italy (as I’ve told you before)

So the loss of FoM impacts me directly.

You can still do that, only now you will need to apply directly.

And that visa can be refused, withdrawn etc, and had a cost attached.

So we’re agreed that Brexit has impacted me directly.

It can be refused but highly unlikely if you meet the required entrance criteria. It will only have an impact when you choose to make the move, and by then things might have changed again.

So once again, brexit has impacted me directly.

It will not impact you until you decide to move.

It will impact you now if you know for a fact that you do not meet the entry criteria to retire in Italy.

Which one is it?"

You asked for personal reasons why Brexit has impacted people, and now want to argue that they’re wrong. I.E that you know more about them than they do.

This place, man

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The economic impact has been dramatic and undeniable - of course the day-to-day depends on individuals, their work, their family/relationships etc. some have had to pay lots for citizenship stuff that they previously never had to consider, others have seen businesses collapse or customer bases decline.

The proof of the pudding is when even ardent brexiters struggle to give a cogent argument on what benefits we’ve seen since leaving.

Sorry you say The economic impact can you be more specific as I personally have not seen it.

Productivity down. Imports down. Exports down. New deals insufficient to replace lost trade.

From the OBR: https://obr.uk/forecasts-in-depth/the-economy-forecast/brexit-analysis/#assumptions

How has this impacted you directly?

The economy impacts everyone directly, does it not?

that is a question not an answer

Ok.

The economy impacts everyone directly.

All of the things you listed surely impact you indirectly. Not directly.

A weakened pound impacts me directly. Loss of FoM impacts me directly.

You said:

"Productivity down. Imports down. Exports down. New deals insufficient to replace lost trade."

That's what you listed, you're now moving the goalposts.

All of which impact the economy, do they not?

Which indirectly affects you.

A weekend pound impacts me indirectly?

You didn't list a weakened pound.

Besides, unless you're trading abroad, it doesn't affect you directly.

You know a weakened currency also impacts businesses and production, which then in turn….

I suppose if you don’t buy any food, goods, fuel…then maybe you could argue that a weakened currency doesn’t affect you.

'Which in turn' ie. indirectly.

It really doesn't have to be this hard

The OP says ‘personally’

I’d argue that we’ve all been impacted personally, for the reasons I’ve outlined.

You've been arguing 'directly'. As I said, it doesn't have to be this hard."

It’s ok. I know you don’t like to back down when you’re wrong.

Have a great day x

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By *astandFeistyCouple
over a year ago

Bournemouth


"The economic impact has been dramatic and undeniable - of course the day-to-day depends on individuals, their work, their family/relationships etc. some have had to pay lots for citizenship stuff that they previously never had to consider, others have seen businesses collapse or customer bases decline.

The proof of the pudding is when even ardent brexiters struggle to give a cogent argument on what benefits we’ve seen since leaving.

Sorry you say The economic impact can you be more specific as I personally have not seen it.

Productivity down. Imports down. Exports down. New deals insufficient to replace lost trade.

From the OBR: https://obr.uk/forecasts-in-depth/the-economy-forecast/brexit-analysis/#assumptions

How has this impacted you directly?

The economy impacts everyone directly, does it not?

that is a question not an answer

Ok.

The economy impacts everyone directly.

All of the things you listed surely impact you indirectly. Not directly.

A weakened pound impacts me directly. Loss of FoM impacts me directly.

You said:

"Productivity down. Imports down. Exports down. New deals insufficient to replace lost trade."

That's what you listed, you're now moving the goalposts.

All of which impact the economy, do they not?

Which indirectly affects you.

A weekend pound impacts me indirectly?

You didn't list a weakened pound.

Besides, unless you're trading abroad, it doesn't affect you directly.

You know a weakened currency also impacts businesses and production, which then in turn….

I suppose if you don’t buy any food, goods, fuel…then maybe you could argue that a weakened currency doesn’t affect you.

'Which in turn' ie. indirectly.

It really doesn't have to be this hard

The OP says ‘personally’

I’d argue that we’ve all been impacted personally, for the reasons I’ve outlined.

You've been arguing 'directly'. As I said, it doesn't have to be this hard.

It’s ok. I know you don’t like to back down when you’re wrong.

Have a great day x"

Who's wrong bud?

Have you been arguing that you were directly affected by those things you listed?

Have all of my replies been disagreeing, that they actually affect you indirectly?

We can agree on that, I won't argue that you haven't been affected indirectly, we all have to a degree.

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By *otMe66 OP   Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"The economic impact has been dramatic and undeniable - of course the day-to-day depends on individuals, their work, their family/relationships etc. some have had to pay lots for citizenship stuff that they previously never had to consider, others have seen businesses collapse or customer bases decline.

The proof of the pudding is when even ardent brexiters struggle to give a cogent argument on what benefits we’ve seen since leaving.

Sorry you say The economic impact can you be more specific as I personally have not seen it.

Productivity down. Imports down. Exports down. New deals insufficient to replace lost trade.

From the OBR: https://obr.uk/forecasts-in-depth/the-economy-forecast/brexit-analysis/#assumptions

How has this impacted you directly?

The economy impacts everyone directly, does it not?

that is a question not an answer

Ok.

The economy impacts everyone directly.

All of the things you listed surely impact you indirectly. Not directly.

A weakened pound impacts me directly. Loss of FoM impacts me directly.

Can you tell me how many times you were in the EU greater than 3 months in every 6 over the last 10 years.

I can tell you I was planning on retiring to Italy (as I’ve told you before)

So the loss of FoM impacts me directly.

You can still do that, only now you will need to apply directly.

And that visa can be refused, withdrawn etc, and had a cost attached.

So we’re agreed that Brexit has impacted me directly.

It can be refused but highly unlikely if you meet the required entrance criteria. It will only have an impact when you choose to make the move, and by then things might have changed again.

So once again, brexit has impacted me directly.

It will not impact you until you decide to move.

It will impact you now if you know for a fact that you do not meet the entry criteria to retire in Italy.

Which one is it?

You asked for personal reasons why Brexit has impacted people, and now want to argue that they’re wrong. I.E that you know more about them than they do.

This place, man

"

Which one is it? If you answer that you know that you don't meet the entry requirements for Italy to enable your retirement, I would agree that is a direct impact of brexit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The economic impact has been dramatic and undeniable - of course the day-to-day depends on individuals, their work, their family/relationships etc. some have had to pay lots for citizenship stuff that they previously never had to consider, others have seen businesses collapse or customer bases decline.

The proof of the pudding is when even ardent brexiters struggle to give a cogent argument on what benefits we’ve seen since leaving.

Sorry you say The economic impact can you be more specific as I personally have not seen it.

Productivity down. Imports down. Exports down. New deals insufficient to replace lost trade.

From the OBR: https://obr.uk/forecasts-in-depth/the-economy-forecast/brexit-analysis/#assumptions

How has this impacted you directly?

The economy impacts everyone directly, does it not?

that is a question not an answer

Ok.

The economy impacts everyone directly.

All of the things you listed surely impact you indirectly. Not directly.

A weakened pound impacts me directly. Loss of FoM impacts me directly.

Can you tell me how many times you were in the EU greater than 3 months in every 6 over the last 10 years.

I can tell you I was planning on retiring to Italy (as I’ve told you before)

So the loss of FoM impacts me directly.

You can still do that, only now you will need to apply directly.

And that visa can be refused, withdrawn etc, and had a cost attached.

So we’re agreed that Brexit has impacted me directly.

It can be refused but highly unlikely if you meet the required entrance criteria. It will only have an impact when you choose to make the move, and by then things might have changed again.

So once again, brexit has impacted me directly.

It will not impact you until you decide to move.

It will impact you now if you know for a fact that you do not meet the entry criteria to retire in Italy.

Which one is it?

You asked for personal reasons why Brexit has impacted people, and now want to argue that they’re wrong. I.E that you know more about them than they do.

This place, man

Which one is it? If you answer that you know that you don't meet the entry requirements for Italy to enable your retirement, I would agree that is a direct impact of brexit.

"

Whether I do or I don’t, it’s a direct impact. Financially and in citizens rights.

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By *otMe66 OP   Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"The economic impact has been dramatic and undeniable - of course the day-to-day depends on individuals, their work, their family/relationships etc. some have had to pay lots for citizenship stuff that they previously never had to consider, others have seen businesses collapse or customer bases decline.

The proof of the pudding is when even ardent brexiters struggle to give a cogent argument on what benefits we’ve seen since leaving.

Sorry you say The economic impact can you be more specific as I personally have not seen it.

Productivity down. Imports down. Exports down. New deals insufficient to replace lost trade.

From the OBR: https://obr.uk/forecasts-in-depth/the-economy-forecast/brexit-analysis/#assumptions

How has this impacted you directly?

The economy impacts everyone directly, does it not?

that is a question not an answer

Ok.

The economy impacts everyone directly.

All of the things you listed surely impact you indirectly. Not directly.

A weakened pound impacts me directly. Loss of FoM impacts me directly.

Can you tell me how many times you were in the EU greater than 3 months in every 6 over the last 10 years.

I can tell you I was planning on retiring to Italy (as I’ve told you before)

So the loss of FoM impacts me directly.

You can still do that, only now you will need to apply directly.

And that visa can be refused, withdrawn etc, and had a cost attached.

So we’re agreed that Brexit has impacted me directly.

It can be refused but highly unlikely if you meet the required entrance criteria. It will only have an impact when you choose to make the move, and by then things might have changed again.

So once again, brexit has impacted me directly.

It will not impact you until you decide to move.

It will impact you now if you know for a fact that you do not meet the entry criteria to retire in Italy.

Which one is it?

You asked for personal reasons why Brexit has impacted people, and now want to argue that they’re wrong. I.E that you know more about them than they do.

This place, man

Which one is it? If you answer that you know that you don't meet the entry requirements for Italy to enable your retirement, I would agree that is a direct impact of brexit.

Whether I do or I don’t, it’s a direct impact. Financially and in citizens rights."

Not until you decide to do it, thinking about doing it isn't a commitment.

The other thing to consider is the BENEFIT brexit will bring to you should you decide to retire.

Applying to retire formally with an Elective Residence Visa will allow you to live in Italy worry free. Imagine if you had retired to Italy and the UK left the EU while you were there. That was always an uncertainty, now you can retire with certainty.

Surely certainty of your future is a benefit?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The economic impact has been dramatic and undeniable - of course the day-to-day depends on individuals, their work, their family/relationships etc. some have had to pay lots for citizenship stuff that they previously never had to consider, others have seen businesses collapse or customer bases decline.

The proof of the pudding is when even ardent brexiters struggle to give a cogent argument on what benefits we’ve seen since leaving.

Sorry you say The economic impact can you be more specific as I personally have not seen it.

Productivity down. Imports down. Exports down. New deals insufficient to replace lost trade.

From the OBR: https://obr.uk/forecasts-in-depth/the-economy-forecast/brexit-analysis/#assumptions

How has this impacted you directly?

The economy impacts everyone directly, does it not?

that is a question not an answer

Ok.

The economy impacts everyone directly.

All of the things you listed surely impact you indirectly. Not directly.

A weakened pound impacts me directly. Loss of FoM impacts me directly.

Can you tell me how many times you were in the EU greater than 3 months in every 6 over the last 10 years.

I can tell you I was planning on retiring to Italy (as I’ve told you before)

So the loss of FoM impacts me directly.

You can still do that, only now you will need to apply directly.

And that visa can be refused, withdrawn etc, and had a cost attached.

So we’re agreed that Brexit has impacted me directly.

It can be refused but highly unlikely if you meet the required entrance criteria. It will only have an impact when you choose to make the move, and by then things might have changed again.

So once again, brexit has impacted me directly.

It will not impact you until you decide to move.

It will impact you now if you know for a fact that you do not meet the entry criteria to retire in Italy.

Which one is it?

You asked for personal reasons why Brexit has impacted people, and now want to argue that they’re wrong. I.E that you know more about them than they do.

This place, man

Which one is it? If you answer that you know that you don't meet the entry requirements for Italy to enable your retirement, I would agree that is a direct impact of brexit.

Whether I do or I don’t, it’s a direct impact. Financially and in citizens rights.

Not until you decide to do it, thinking about doing it isn't a commitment.

The other thing to consider is the BENEFIT brexit will bring to you should you decide to retire.

Applying to retire formally with an Elective Residence Visa will allow you to live in Italy worry free. Imagine if you had retired to Italy and the UK left the EU while you were there. That was always an uncertainty, now you can retire with certainty.

Surely certainty of your future is a benefit?

"

How many straws did you grab with that clutch?

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields


"The economic impact has been dramatic and undeniable - of course the day-to-day depends on individuals, their work, their family/relationships etc. some have had to pay lots for citizenship stuff that they previously never had to consider, others have seen businesses collapse or customer bases decline.

The proof of the pudding is when even ardent brexiters struggle to give a cogent argument on what benefits we’ve seen since leaving.

Sorry you say The economic impact can you be more specific as I personally have not seen it.

Productivity down. Imports down. Exports down. New deals insufficient to replace lost trade.

From the OBR: https://obr.uk/forecasts-in-depth/the-economy-forecast/brexit-analysis/#assumptions

How has this impacted you directly?

The economy impacts everyone directly, does it not?

that is a question not an answer

Ok.

The economy impacts everyone directly.

All of the things you listed surely impact you indirectly. Not directly.

A weakened pound impacts me directly. Loss of FoM impacts me directly.

Can you tell me how many times you were in the EU greater than 3 months in every 6 over the last 10 years.

I can tell you I was planning on retiring to Italy (as I’ve told you before)

So the loss of FoM impacts me directly.

You can still do that, only now you will need to apply directly.

And that visa can be refused, withdrawn etc, and had a cost attached.

So we’re agreed that Brexit has impacted me directly.

It can be refused but highly unlikely if you meet the required entrance criteria. It will only have an impact when you choose to make the move, and by then things might have changed again.

So once again, brexit has impacted me directly.

It will not impact you until you decide to move.

It will impact you now if you know for a fact that you do not meet the entry criteria to retire in Italy.

Which one is it?

You asked for personal reasons why Brexit has impacted people, and now want to argue that they’re wrong. I.E that you know more about them than they do.

This place, man

Which one is it? If you answer that you know that you don't meet the entry requirements for Italy to enable your retirement, I would agree that is a direct impact of brexit.

Whether I do or I don’t, it’s a direct impact. Financially and in citizens rights.

Not until you decide to do it, thinking about doing it isn't a commitment.

The other thing to consider is the BENEFIT brexit will bring to you should you decide to retire.

Applying to retire formally with an Elective Residence Visa will allow you to live in Italy worry free. Imagine if you had retired to Italy and the UK left the EU while you were there. That was always an uncertainty, now you can retire with certainty.

Surely certainty of your future is a benefit?

"

Fair play to you. This is by far the funniest attempt at a brexit benefit I've ever seen.

Bravo.

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By *otMe66 OP   Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"The economic impact has been dramatic and undeniable - of course the day-to-day depends on individuals, their work, their family/relationships etc. some have had to pay lots for citizenship stuff that they previously never had to consider, others have seen businesses collapse or customer bases decline.

The proof of the pudding is when even ardent brexiters struggle to give a cogent argument on what benefits we’ve seen since leaving.

Sorry you say The economic impact can you be more specific as I personally have not seen it.

Productivity down. Imports down. Exports down. New deals insufficient to replace lost trade.

From the OBR: https://obr.uk/forecasts-in-depth/the-economy-forecast/brexit-analysis/#assumptions

How has this impacted you directly?

The economy impacts everyone directly, does it not?

that is a question not an answer

Ok.

The economy impacts everyone directly.

All of the things you listed surely impact you indirectly. Not directly.

A weakened pound impacts me directly. Loss of FoM impacts me directly.

Can you tell me how many times you were in the EU greater than 3 months in every 6 over the last 10 years.

I can tell you I was planning on retiring to Italy (as I’ve told you before)

So the loss of FoM impacts me directly.

You can still do that, only now you will need to apply directly.

And that visa can be refused, withdrawn etc, and had a cost attached.

So we’re agreed that Brexit has impacted me directly.

It can be refused but highly unlikely if you meet the required entrance criteria. It will only have an impact when you choose to make the move, and by then things might have changed again.

So once again, brexit has impacted me directly.

It will not impact you until you decide to move.

It will impact you now if you know for a fact that you do not meet the entry criteria to retire in Italy.

Which one is it?

You asked for personal reasons why Brexit has impacted people, and now want to argue that they’re wrong. I.E that you know more about them than they do.

This place, man

Which one is it? If you answer that you know that you don't meet the entry requirements for Italy to enable your retirement, I would agree that is a direct impact of brexit.

Whether I do or I don’t, it’s a direct impact. Financially and in citizens rights.

Not until you decide to do it, thinking about doing it isn't a commitment.

The other thing to consider is the BENEFIT brexit will bring to you should you decide to retire.

Applying to retire formally with an Elective Residence Visa will allow you to live in Italy worry free. Imagine if you had retired to Italy and the UK left the EU while you were there. That was always an uncertainty, now you can retire with certainty.

Surely certainty of your future is a benefit?

How many straws did you grab with that clutch?"

Take a straw yourself, it could turn your frown upside down, or are things so bad that is never going to happen.

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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago

Derby


"Every day we see posts blaming Brexit for any number of things, some have the most tenuous of links to Brexit in my opinion, and that has got me thinking!

What has been the impact of Brexit to you personally?

"

Been to EU countries pleasure and business incl France, Spain, Germany, Austria...not noticed any difference in passport queues from before ( the most annoying and time-consuming aspect seems to be the passport scanners).

As for work, not any real difference, the biggest problem is export / import duties, customs, etc, but that's getting used to the documentation involved....it's always been done with non-EU countries.

The biggest issue with delays has been stopping the world economy because of Covid and then expecting things to just start up again where they left off.

Has Brexit impacted us personally? Not really that we've noticed.

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By *otMe66 OP   Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"The economic impact has been dramatic and undeniable - of course the day-to-day depends on individuals, their work, their family/relationships etc. some have had to pay lots for citizenship stuff that they previously never had to consider, others have seen businesses collapse or customer bases decline.

The proof of the pudding is when even ardent brexiters struggle to give a cogent argument on what benefits we’ve seen since leaving.

Sorry you say The economic impact can you be more specific as I personally have not seen it.

Productivity down. Imports down. Exports down. New deals insufficient to replace lost trade.

From the OBR: https://obr.uk/forecasts-in-depth/the-economy-forecast/brexit-analysis/#assumptions

How has this impacted you directly?

The economy impacts everyone directly, does it not?

that is a question not an answer

Ok.

The economy impacts everyone directly.

All of the things you listed surely impact you indirectly. Not directly.

A weakened pound impacts me directly. Loss of FoM impacts me directly.

Can you tell me how many times you were in the EU greater than 3 months in every 6 over the last 10 years.

I can tell you I was planning on retiring to Italy (as I’ve told you before)

So the loss of FoM impacts me directly.

You can still do that, only now you will need to apply directly.

And that visa can be refused, withdrawn etc, and had a cost attached.

So we’re agreed that Brexit has impacted me directly.

It can be refused but highly unlikely if you meet the required entrance criteria. It will only have an impact when you choose to make the move, and by then things might have changed again.

So once again, brexit has impacted me directly.

It will not impact you until you decide to move.

It will impact you now if you know for a fact that you do not meet the entry criteria to retire in Italy.

Which one is it?

You asked for personal reasons why Brexit has impacted people, and now want to argue that they’re wrong. I.E that you know more about them than they do.

This place, man

Which one is it? If you answer that you know that you don't meet the entry requirements for Italy to enable your retirement, I would agree that is a direct impact of brexit.

Whether I do or I don’t, it’s a direct impact. Financially and in citizens rights.

Not until you decide to do it, thinking about doing it isn't a commitment.

The other thing to consider is the BENEFIT brexit will bring to you should you decide to retire.

Applying to retire formally with an Elective Residence Visa will allow you to live in Italy worry free. Imagine if you had retired to Italy and the UK left the EU while you were there. That was always an uncertainty, now you can retire with certainty.

Surely certainty of your future is a benefit?

Fair play to you. This is by far the funniest attempt at a brexit benefit I've ever seen.

Bravo."

what is funny about it? it has been reported as many as 10K pensioners ended their retirement in an EU country post brexit. Many not being able qualify for secure permanent residency. If Funfella still wants to retire to Italy has he said, and he meets the criteria he will get permanent residency. No background worries which will be nice in retirement, a more solid foundation.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields


"The economic impact has been dramatic and undeniable - of course the day-to-day depends on individuals, their work, their family/relationships etc. some have had to pay lots for citizenship stuff that they previously never had to consider, others have seen businesses collapse or customer bases decline.

The proof of the pudding is when even ardent brexiters struggle to give a cogent argument on what benefits we’ve seen since leaving.

Sorry you say The economic impact can you be more specific as I personally have not seen it.

Productivity down. Imports down. Exports down. New deals insufficient to replace lost trade.

From the OBR: https://obr.uk/forecasts-in-depth/the-economy-forecast/brexit-analysis/#assumptions

How has this impacted you directly?

The economy impacts everyone directly, does it not?

that is a question not an answer

Ok.

The economy impacts everyone directly.

All of the things you listed surely impact you indirectly. Not directly.

A weakened pound impacts me directly. Loss of FoM impacts me directly.

Can you tell me how many times you were in the EU greater than 3 months in every 6 over the last 10 years.

I can tell you I was planning on retiring to Italy (as I’ve told you before)

So the loss of FoM impacts me directly.

You can still do that, only now you will need to apply directly.

And that visa can be refused, withdrawn etc, and had a cost attached.

So we’re agreed that Brexit has impacted me directly.

It can be refused but highly unlikely if you meet the required entrance criteria. It will only have an impact when you choose to make the move, and by then things might have changed again.

So once again, brexit has impacted me directly.

It will not impact you until you decide to move.

It will impact you now if you know for a fact that you do not meet the entry criteria to retire in Italy.

Which one is it?

You asked for personal reasons why Brexit has impacted people, and now want to argue that they’re wrong. I.E that you know more about them than they do.

This place, man

Which one is it? If you answer that you know that you don't meet the entry requirements for Italy to enable your retirement, I would agree that is a direct impact of brexit.

Whether I do or I don’t, it’s a direct impact. Financially and in citizens rights.

Not until you decide to do it, thinking about doing it isn't a commitment.

The other thing to consider is the BENEFIT brexit will bring to you should you decide to retire.

Applying to retire formally with an Elective Residence Visa will allow you to live in Italy worry free. Imagine if you had retired to Italy and the UK left the EU while you were there. That was always an uncertainty, now you can retire with certainty.

Surely certainty of your future is a benefit?

Fair play to you. This is by far the funniest attempt at a brexit benefit I've ever seen.

Bravo.

what is funny about it? it has been reported as many as 10K pensioners ended their retirement in an EU country post brexit. Many not being able qualify for secure permanent residency. If Funfella still wants to retire to Italy has he said, and he meets the criteria he will get permanent residency. No background worries which will be nice in retirement, a more solid foundation. "

Just so we're clear. You're suggesting that the benefit here is that it's already been made harder to retire in an EU country, so those that are able to, don't have to worry about it being made more difficult, because it's already happened.

Bravo. This is really funny.

It's like the benefit of being punched in the face by Mike Tyson. It's already happened, so less likely to happen again.

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By *otMe66 OP   Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"The economic impact has been dramatic and undeniable - of course the day-to-day depends on individuals, their work, their family/relationships etc. some have had to pay lots for citizenship stuff that they previously never had to consider, others have seen businesses collapse or customer bases decline.

The proof of the pudding is when even ardent brexiters struggle to give a cogent argument on what benefits we’ve seen since leaving.

Sorry you say The economic impact can you be more specific as I personally have not seen it.

Productivity down. Imports down. Exports down. New deals insufficient to replace lost trade.

From the OBR: https://obr.uk/forecasts-in-depth/the-economy-forecast/brexit-analysis/#assumptions

How has this impacted you directly?

The economy impacts everyone directly, does it not?

that is a question not an answer

Ok.

The economy impacts everyone directly.

All of the things you listed surely impact you indirectly. Not directly.

A weakened pound impacts me directly. Loss of FoM impacts me directly.

Can you tell me how many times you were in the EU greater than 3 months in every 6 over the last 10 years.

I can tell you I was planning on retiring to Italy (as I’ve told you before)

So the loss of FoM impacts me directly.

You can still do that, only now you will need to apply directly.

And that visa can be refused, withdrawn etc, and had a cost attached.

So we’re agreed that Brexit has impacted me directly.

It can be refused but highly unlikely if you meet the required entrance criteria. It will only have an impact when you choose to make the move, and by then things might have changed again.

So once again, brexit has impacted me directly.

It will not impact you until you decide to move.

It will impact you now if you know for a fact that you do not meet the entry criteria to retire in Italy.

Which one is it?

You asked for personal reasons why Brexit has impacted people, and now want to argue that they’re wrong. I.E that you know more about them than they do.

This place, man

Which one is it? If you answer that you know that you don't meet the entry requirements for Italy to enable your retirement, I would agree that is a direct impact of brexit.

Whether I do or I don’t, it’s a direct impact. Financially and in citizens rights.

Not until you decide to do it, thinking about doing it isn't a commitment.

The other thing to consider is the BENEFIT brexit will bring to you should you decide to retire.

Applying to retire formally with an Elective Residence Visa will allow you to live in Italy worry free. Imagine if you had retired to Italy and the UK left the EU while you were there. That was always an uncertainty, now you can retire with certainty.

Surely certainty of your future is a benefit?

Fair play to you. This is by far the funniest attempt at a brexit benefit I've ever seen.

Bravo.

what is funny about it? it has been reported as many as 10K pensioners ended their retirement in an EU country post brexit. Many not being able qualify for secure permanent residency. If Funfella still wants to retire to Italy has he said, and he meets the criteria he will get permanent residency. No background worries which will be nice in retirement, a more solid foundation.

Just so we're clear. You're suggesting that the benefit here is that it's already been made harder to retire in an EU country, so those that are able to, don't have to worry about it being made more difficult, because it's already happened.

Bravo. This is really funny.

It's like the benefit of being punched in the face by Mike Tyson. It's already happened, so less likely to happen again. "

Qualifying to retire in an EU country now is far more stable, with retired UK citizens having a more solid retirement base in their chosen country.

Not sure how Mike Tyson plays into this but hey ho.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields


"The economic impact has been dramatic and undeniable - of course the day-to-day depends on individuals, their work, their family/relationships etc. some have had to pay lots for citizenship stuff that they previously never had to consider, others have seen businesses collapse or customer bases decline.

The proof of the pudding is when even ardent brexiters struggle to give a cogent argument on what benefits we’ve seen since leaving.

Sorry you say The economic impact can you be more specific as I personally have not seen it.

Productivity down. Imports down. Exports down. New deals insufficient to replace lost trade.

From the OBR: https://obr.uk/forecasts-in-depth/the-economy-forecast/brexit-analysis/#assumptions

How has this impacted you directly?

The economy impacts everyone directly, does it not?

that is a question not an answer

Ok.

The economy impacts everyone directly.

All of the things you listed surely impact you indirectly. Not directly.

A weakened pound impacts me directly. Loss of FoM impacts me directly.

Can you tell me how many times you were in the EU greater than 3 months in every 6 over the last 10 years.

I can tell you I was planning on retiring to Italy (as I’ve told you before)

So the loss of FoM impacts me directly.

You can still do that, only now you will need to apply directly.

And that visa can be refused, withdrawn etc, and had a cost attached.

So we’re agreed that Brexit has impacted me directly.

It can be refused but highly unlikely if you meet the required entrance criteria. It will only have an impact when you choose to make the move, and by then things might have changed again.

So once again, brexit has impacted me directly.

It will not impact you until you decide to move.

It will impact you now if you know for a fact that you do not meet the entry criteria to retire in Italy.

Which one is it?

You asked for personal reasons why Brexit has impacted people, and now want to argue that they’re wrong. I.E that you know more about them than they do.

This place, man

Which one is it? If you answer that you know that you don't meet the entry requirements for Italy to enable your retirement, I would agree that is a direct impact of brexit.

Whether I do or I don’t, it’s a direct impact. Financially and in citizens rights.

Not until you decide to do it, thinking about doing it isn't a commitment.

The other thing to consider is the BENEFIT brexit will bring to you should you decide to retire.

Applying to retire formally with an Elective Residence Visa will allow you to live in Italy worry free. Imagine if you had retired to Italy and the UK left the EU while you were there. That was always an uncertainty, now you can retire with certainty.

Surely certainty of your future is a benefit?

Fair play to you. This is by far the funniest attempt at a brexit benefit I've ever seen.

Bravo.

what is funny about it? it has been reported as many as 10K pensioners ended their retirement in an EU country post brexit. Many not being able qualify for secure permanent residency. If Funfella still wants to retire to Italy has he said, and he meets the criteria he will get permanent residency. No background worries which will be nice in retirement, a more solid foundation.

Just so we're clear. You're suggesting that the benefit here is that it's already been made harder to retire in an EU country, so those that are able to, don't have to worry about it being made more difficult, because it's already happened.

Bravo. This is really funny.

It's like the benefit of being punched in the face by Mike Tyson. It's already happened, so less likely to happen again.

Qualifying to retire in an EU country now is far more stable, with retired UK citizens having a more solid retirement base in their chosen country.

Not sure how Mike Tyson plays into this but hey ho."

*Far more difficult.

This is really funny though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The economic impact has been dramatic and undeniable - of course the day-to-day depends on individuals, their work, their family/relationships etc. some have had to pay lots for citizenship stuff that they previously never had to consider, others have seen businesses collapse or customer bases decline.

The proof of the pudding is when even ardent brexiters struggle to give a cogent argument on what benefits we’ve seen since leaving.

Sorry you say The economic impact can you be more specific as I personally have not seen it.

Productivity down. Imports down. Exports down. New deals insufficient to replace lost trade.

From the OBR: https://obr.uk/forecasts-in-depth/the-economy-forecast/brexit-analysis/#assumptions

How has this impacted you directly?

The economy impacts everyone directly, does it not?

that is a question not an answer

Ok.

The economy impacts everyone directly.

All of the things you listed surely impact you indirectly. Not directly.

A weakened pound impacts me directly. Loss of FoM impacts me directly.

Can you tell me how many times you were in the EU greater than 3 months in every 6 over the last 10 years.

I can tell you I was planning on retiring to Italy (as I’ve told you before)

So the loss of FoM impacts me directly.

You can still do that, only now you will need to apply directly.

And that visa can be refused, withdrawn etc, and had a cost attached.

So we’re agreed that Brexit has impacted me directly.

It can be refused but highly unlikely if you meet the required entrance criteria. It will only have an impact when you choose to make the move, and by then things might have changed again.

So once again, brexit has impacted me directly.

It will not impact you until you decide to move.

It will impact you now if you know for a fact that you do not meet the entry criteria to retire in Italy.

Which one is it?

You asked for personal reasons why Brexit has impacted people, and now want to argue that they’re wrong. I.E that you know more about them than they do.

This place, man

Which one is it? If you answer that you know that you don't meet the entry requirements for Italy to enable your retirement, I would agree that is a direct impact of brexit.

Whether I do or I don’t, it’s a direct impact. Financially and in citizens rights.

Not until you decide to do it, thinking about doing it isn't a commitment.

The other thing to consider is the BENEFIT brexit will bring to you should you decide to retire.

Applying to retire formally with an Elective Residence Visa will allow you to live in Italy worry free. Imagine if you had retired to Italy and the UK left the EU while you were there. That was always an uncertainty, now you can retire with certainty.

Surely certainty of your future is a benefit?

Fair play to you. This is by far the funniest attempt at a brexit benefit I've ever seen.

Bravo.

what is funny about it? it has been reported as many as 10K pensioners ended their retirement in an EU country post brexit. Many not being able qualify for secure permanent residency. If Funfella still wants to retire to Italy has he said, and he meets the criteria he will get permanent residency. No background worries which will be nice in retirement, a more solid foundation.

Just so we're clear. You're suggesting that the benefit here is that it's already been made harder to retire in an EU country, so those that are able to, don't have to worry about it being made more difficult, because it's already happened.

Bravo. This is really funny.

It's like the benefit of being punched in the face by Mike Tyson. It's already happened, so less likely to happen again.

Qualifying to retire in an EU country now is far more stable, with retired UK citizens having a more solid retirement base in their chosen country.

Not sure how Mike Tyson plays into this but hey ho."

Why is it more ‘stable’ than if we had stayed in the EU?

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By *otMe66 OP   Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"The economic impact has been dramatic and undeniable - of course the day-to-day depends on individuals, their work, their family/relationships etc. some have had to pay lots for citizenship stuff that they previously never had to consider, others have seen businesses collapse or customer bases decline.

The proof of the pudding is when even ardent brexiters struggle to give a cogent argument on what benefits we’ve seen since leaving.

Sorry you say The economic impact can you be more specific as I personally have not seen it.

Productivity down. Imports down. Exports down. New deals insufficient to replace lost trade.

From the OBR: https://obr.uk/forecasts-in-depth/the-economy-forecast/brexit-analysis/#assumptions

How has this impacted you directly?

The economy impacts everyone directly, does it not?

that is a question not an answer

Ok.

The economy impacts everyone directly.

All of the things you listed surely impact you indirectly. Not directly.

A weakened pound impacts me directly. Loss of FoM impacts me directly.

Can you tell me how many times you were in the EU greater than 3 months in every 6 over the last 10 years.

I can tell you I was planning on retiring to Italy (as I’ve told you before)

So the loss of FoM impacts me directly.

You can still do that, only now you will need to apply directly.

And that visa can be refused, withdrawn etc, and had a cost attached.

So we’re agreed that Brexit has impacted me directly.

It can be refused but highly unlikely if you meet the required entrance criteria. It will only have an impact when you choose to make the move, and by then things might have changed again.

So once again, brexit has impacted me directly.

It will not impact you until you decide to move.

It will impact you now if you know for a fact that you do not meet the entry criteria to retire in Italy.

Which one is it?

You asked for personal reasons why Brexit has impacted people, and now want to argue that they’re wrong. I.E that you know more about them than they do.

This place, man

Which one is it? If you answer that you know that you don't meet the entry requirements for Italy to enable your retirement, I would agree that is a direct impact of brexit.

Whether I do or I don’t, it’s a direct impact. Financially and in citizens rights.

Not until you decide to do it, thinking about doing it isn't a commitment.

The other thing to consider is the BENEFIT brexit will bring to you should you decide to retire.

Applying to retire formally with an Elective Residence Visa will allow you to live in Italy worry free. Imagine if you had retired to Italy and the UK left the EU while you were there. That was always an uncertainty, now you can retire with certainty.

Surely certainty of your future is a benefit?

Fair play to you. This is by far the funniest attempt at a brexit benefit I've ever seen.

Bravo.

what is funny about it? it has been reported as many as 10K pensioners ended their retirement in an EU country post brexit. Many not being able qualify for secure permanent residency. If Funfella still wants to retire to Italy has he said, and he meets the criteria he will get permanent residency. No background worries which will be nice in retirement, a more solid foundation.

Just so we're clear. You're suggesting that the benefit here is that it's already been made harder to retire in an EU country, so those that are able to, don't have to worry about it being made more difficult, because it's already happened.

Bravo. This is really funny.

It's like the benefit of being punched in the face by Mike Tyson. It's already happened, so less likely to happen again.

Qualifying to retire in an EU country now is far more stable, with retired UK citizens having a more solid retirement base in their chosen country.

Not sure how Mike Tyson plays into this but hey ho.

*Far more difficult.

This is really funny though. "

Excellent, because this is exactly the same BS that litters the forum everyday by people blaming Brexit for everything that is wrong in the world. You could see the argument was based on the most tenuous of links, and you actually found it funny as in disbelief. Welcome to the world of BS Brexit reasons and excuses, Brexit has taken away freedom of movement that I used 2 weeks of the year when I visited Turkey, I can’t retire in the EU, yes you can, name a Brexit benefit, go on I bet you can’t….

The thread asked what Brexit change has impacted you personally, so far here has been very little to report back on other than one person lost a job which was unfortunate, there must be something other than I wanted to retire in the EU…..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The economic impact has been dramatic and undeniable - of course the day-to-day depends on individuals, their work, their family/relationships etc. some have had to pay lots for citizenship stuff that they previously never had to consider, others have seen businesses collapse or customer bases decline.

The proof of the pudding is when even ardent brexiters struggle to give a cogent argument on what benefits we’ve seen since leaving.

Sorry you say The economic impact can you be more specific as I personally have not seen it.

Productivity down. Imports down. Exports down. New deals insufficient to replace lost trade.

From the OBR: https://obr.uk/forecasts-in-depth/the-economy-forecast/brexit-analysis/#assumptions

How has this impacted you directly?

The economy impacts everyone directly, does it not?

that is a question not an answer

Ok.

The economy impacts everyone directly.

All of the things you listed surely impact you indirectly. Not directly.

A weakened pound impacts me directly. Loss of FoM impacts me directly.

Can you tell me how many times you were in the EU greater than 3 months in every 6 over the last 10 years.

I can tell you I was planning on retiring to Italy (as I’ve told you before)

So the loss of FoM impacts me directly.

You can still do that, only now you will need to apply directly.

And that visa can be refused, withdrawn etc, and had a cost attached.

So we’re agreed that Brexit has impacted me directly.

It can be refused but highly unlikely if you meet the required entrance criteria. It will only have an impact when you choose to make the move, and by then things might have changed again.

So once again, brexit has impacted me directly.

It will not impact you until you decide to move.

It will impact you now if you know for a fact that you do not meet the entry criteria to retire in Italy.

Which one is it?

You asked for personal reasons why Brexit has impacted people, and now want to argue that they’re wrong. I.E that you know more about them than they do.

This place, man

Which one is it? If you answer that you know that you don't meet the entry requirements for Italy to enable your retirement, I would agree that is a direct impact of brexit.

Whether I do or I don’t, it’s a direct impact. Financially and in citizens rights.

Not until you decide to do it, thinking about doing it isn't a commitment.

The other thing to consider is the BENEFIT brexit will bring to you should you decide to retire.

Applying to retire formally with an Elective Residence Visa will allow you to live in Italy worry free. Imagine if you had retired to Italy and the UK left the EU while you were there. That was always an uncertainty, now you can retire with certainty.

Surely certainty of your future is a benefit?

Fair play to you. This is by far the funniest attempt at a brexit benefit I've ever seen.

Bravo.

what is funny about it? it has been reported as many as 10K pensioners ended their retirement in an EU country post brexit. Many not being able qualify for secure permanent residency. If Funfella still wants to retire to Italy has he said, and he meets the criteria he will get permanent residency. No background worries which will be nice in retirement, a more solid foundation.

Just so we're clear. You're suggesting that the benefit here is that it's already been made harder to retire in an EU country, so those that are able to, don't have to worry about it being made more difficult, because it's already happened.

Bravo. This is really funny.

It's like the benefit of being punched in the face by Mike Tyson. It's already happened, so less likely to happen again.

Qualifying to retire in an EU country now is far more stable, with retired UK citizens having a more solid retirement base in their chosen country.

Not sure how Mike Tyson plays into this but hey ho.

*Far more difficult.

This is really funny though.

Excellent, because this is exactly the same BS that litters the forum everyday by people blaming Brexit for everything that is wrong in the world. You could see the argument was based on the most tenuous of links, and you actually found it funny as in disbelief. Welcome to the world of BS Brexit reasons and excuses, Brexit has taken away freedom of movement that I used 2 weeks of the year when I visited Turkey, I can’t retire in the EU, yes you can, name a Brexit benefit, go on I bet you can’t….

The thread asked what Brexit change has impacted you personally, so far here has been very little to report back on other than one person lost a job which was unfortunate, there must be something other than I wanted to retire in the EU….. "

You’re once again attempting to be the arbiter of what people find important.

For some brexiters the importance of leaving the EU was the notion of sovereignty. Do we question how important or impactful that is on their life?

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By *otMe66 OP   Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"The economic impact has been dramatic and undeniable - of course the day-to-day depends on individuals, their work, their family/relationships etc. some have had to pay lots for citizenship stuff that they previously never had to consider, others have seen businesses collapse or customer bases decline.

The proof of the pudding is when even ardent brexiters struggle to give a cogent argument on what benefits we’ve seen since leaving.

Sorry you say The economic impact can you be more specific as I personally have not seen it.

Productivity down. Imports down. Exports down. New deals insufficient to replace lost trade.

From the OBR: https://obr.uk/forecasts-in-depth/the-economy-forecast/brexit-analysis/#assumptions

How has this impacted you directly?

The economy impacts everyone directly, does it not?

that is a question not an answer

Ok.

The economy impacts everyone directly.

All of the things you listed surely impact you indirectly. Not directly.

A weakened pound impacts me directly. Loss of FoM impacts me directly.

Can you tell me how many times you were in the EU greater than 3 months in every 6 over the last 10 years.

I can tell you I was planning on retiring to Italy (as I’ve told you before)

So the loss of FoM impacts me directly.

You can still do that, only now you will need to apply directly.

And that visa can be refused, withdrawn etc, and had a cost attached.

So we’re agreed that Brexit has impacted me directly.

It can be refused but highly unlikely if you meet the required entrance criteria. It will only have an impact when you choose to make the move, and by then things might have changed again.

So once again, brexit has impacted me directly.

It will not impact you until you decide to move.

It will impact you now if you know for a fact that you do not meet the entry criteria to retire in Italy.

Which one is it?

You asked for personal reasons why Brexit has impacted people, and now want to argue that they’re wrong. I.E that you know more about them than they do.

This place, man

Which one is it? If you answer that you know that you don't meet the entry requirements for Italy to enable your retirement, I would agree that is a direct impact of brexit.

Whether I do or I don’t, it’s a direct impact. Financially and in citizens rights.

Not until you decide to do it, thinking about doing it isn't a commitment.

The other thing to consider is the BENEFIT brexit will bring to you should you decide to retire.

Applying to retire formally with an Elective Residence Visa will allow you to live in Italy worry free. Imagine if you had retired to Italy and the UK left the EU while you were there. That was always an uncertainty, now you can retire with certainty.

Surely certainty of your future is a benefit?

Fair play to you. This is by far the funniest attempt at a brexit benefit I've ever seen.

Bravo.

what is funny about it? it has been reported as many as 10K pensioners ended their retirement in an EU country post brexit. Many not being able qualify for secure permanent residency. If Funfella still wants to retire to Italy has he said, and he meets the criteria he will get permanent residency. No background worries which will be nice in retirement, a more solid foundation.

Just so we're clear. You're suggesting that the benefit here is that it's already been made harder to retire in an EU country, so those that are able to, don't have to worry about it being made more difficult, because it's already happened.

Bravo. This is really funny.

It's like the benefit of being punched in the face by Mike Tyson. It's already happened, so less likely to happen again.

Qualifying to retire in an EU country now is far more stable, with retired UK citizens having a more solid retirement base in their chosen country.

Not sure how Mike Tyson plays into this but hey ho.

*Far more difficult.

This is really funny though.

Excellent, because this is exactly the same BS that litters the forum everyday by people blaming Brexit for everything that is wrong in the world. You could see the argument was based on the most tenuous of links, and you actually found it funny as in disbelief. Welcome to the world of BS Brexit reasons and excuses, Brexit has taken away freedom of movement that I used 2 weeks of the year when I visited Turkey, I can’t retire in the EU, yes you can, name a Brexit benefit, go on I bet you can’t….

The thread asked what Brexit change has impacted you personally, so far here has been very little to report back on other than one person lost a job which was unfortunate, there must be something other than I wanted to retire in the EU…..

You’re once again attempting to be the arbiter of what people find important.

For some brexiters the importance of leaving the EU was the notion of sovereignty. Do we question how important or impactful that is on their life?

"

I'm not telling anyone what they think is important, I'm asking people what impact has brexit had on you.

If you say it has stopped me from retiring to Italy, I think it is right to challenge that thought, because you can still retire to Italy.

Brexit hasn't prevented that, it has made it more of an administration exercise and you need to meet a criteria that shows you can support yourself, have somewhere to live and have medical insurance but surely you would have had those things in place when we part of the EU?? Do you really think brexit has stopped you retiring to Italy?

I voted remain but not remaining hasn't made life a glass half empty.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The economic impact has been dramatic and undeniable - of course the day-to-day depends on individuals, their work, their family/relationships etc. some have had to pay lots for citizenship stuff that they previously never had to consider, others have seen businesses collapse or customer bases decline.

The proof of the pudding is when even ardent brexiters struggle to give a cogent argument on what benefits we’ve seen since leaving.

Sorry you say The economic impact can you be more specific as I personally have not seen it.

Productivity down. Imports down. Exports down. New deals insufficient to replace lost trade.

From the OBR: https://obr.uk/forecasts-in-depth/the-economy-forecast/brexit-analysis/#assumptions

How has this impacted you directly?

The economy impacts everyone directly, does it not?

that is a question not an answer

Ok.

The economy impacts everyone directly.

All of the things you listed surely impact you indirectly. Not directly.

A weakened pound impacts me directly. Loss of FoM impacts me directly.

Can you tell me how many times you were in the EU greater than 3 months in every 6 over the last 10 years.

I can tell you I was planning on retiring to Italy (as I’ve told you before)

So the loss of FoM impacts me directly.

You can still do that, only now you will need to apply directly.

And that visa can be refused, withdrawn etc, and had a cost attached.

So we’re agreed that Brexit has impacted me directly.

It can be refused but highly unlikely if you meet the required entrance criteria. It will only have an impact when you choose to make the move, and by then things might have changed again.

So once again, brexit has impacted me directly.

It will not impact you until you decide to move.

It will impact you now if you know for a fact that you do not meet the entry criteria to retire in Italy.

Which one is it?

You asked for personal reasons why Brexit has impacted people, and now want to argue that they’re wrong. I.E that you know more about them than they do.

This place, man

Which one is it? If you answer that you know that you don't meet the entry requirements for Italy to enable your retirement, I would agree that is a direct impact of brexit.

Whether I do or I don’t, it’s a direct impact. Financially and in citizens rights.

Not until you decide to do it, thinking about doing it isn't a commitment.

The other thing to consider is the BENEFIT brexit will bring to you should you decide to retire.

Applying to retire formally with an Elective Residence Visa will allow you to live in Italy worry free. Imagine if you had retired to Italy and the UK left the EU while you were there. That was always an uncertainty, now you can retire with certainty.

Surely certainty of your future is a benefit?

Fair play to you. This is by far the funniest attempt at a brexit benefit I've ever seen.

Bravo.

what is funny about it? it has been reported as many as 10K pensioners ended their retirement in an EU country post brexit. Many not being able qualify for secure permanent residency. If Funfella still wants to retire to Italy has he said, and he meets the criteria he will get permanent residency. No background worries which will be nice in retirement, a more solid foundation.

Just so we're clear. You're suggesting that the benefit here is that it's already been made harder to retire in an EU country, so those that are able to, don't have to worry about it being made more difficult, because it's already happened.

Bravo. This is really funny.

It's like the benefit of being punched in the face by Mike Tyson. It's already happened, so less likely to happen again.

Qualifying to retire in an EU country now is far more stable, with retired UK citizens having a more solid retirement base in their chosen country.

Not sure how Mike Tyson plays into this but hey ho.

*Far more difficult.

This is really funny though.

Excellent, because this is exactly the same BS that litters the forum everyday by people blaming Brexit for everything that is wrong in the world. You could see the argument was based on the most tenuous of links, and you actually found it funny as in disbelief. Welcome to the world of BS Brexit reasons and excuses, Brexit has taken away freedom of movement that I used 2 weeks of the year when I visited Turkey, I can’t retire in the EU, yes you can, name a Brexit benefit, go on I bet you can’t….

The thread asked what Brexit change has impacted you personally, so far here has been very little to report back on other than one person lost a job which was unfortunate, there must be something other than I wanted to retire in the EU…..

You’re once again attempting to be the arbiter of what people find important.

For some brexiters the importance of leaving the EU was the notion of sovereignty. Do we question how important or impactful that is on their life?

I'm not telling anyone what they think is important, I'm asking people what impact has brexit had on you.

If you say it has stopped me from retiring to Italy, I think it is right to challenge that thought, because you can still retire to Italy.

Brexit hasn't prevented that, it has made it more of an administration exercise and you need to meet a criteria that shows you can support yourself, have somewhere to live and have medical insurance but surely you would have had those things in place when we part of the EU?? Do you really think brexit has stopped you retiring to Italy?

I voted remain but not remaining hasn't made life a glass half empty. "

I have never said Brexit has stopped me retiring to Italy. I said it has made it less certain, more expensive, and more complicated.

Which I’m sure you’ll agree is an impact - which is what you requested.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Only 2 things that I have been affected directly by to my knowledge. Getting a booking at a garage to get my car fixed. All the guys in the trade are saying its taking longer to get parts and can't plan work like before.

The supply of fruit and veg. More shortages and the quality is lower. Thats probably a combination of the weather and Brexit.

Another thing not effecting me directly but been told by my friends who run restaurants. Problems with suppliers and getting stock like wine and some other items.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields


"The economic impact has been dramatic and undeniable - of course the day-to-day depends on individuals, their work, their family/relationships etc. some have had to pay lots for citizenship stuff that they previously never had to consider, others have seen businesses collapse or customer bases decline.

The proof of the pudding is when even ardent brexiters struggle to give a cogent argument on what benefits we’ve seen since leaving.

Sorry you say The economic impact can you be more specific as I personally have not seen it.

Productivity down. Imports down. Exports down. New deals insufficient to replace lost trade.

From the OBR: https://obr.uk/forecasts-in-depth/the-economy-forecast/brexit-analysis/#assumptions

How has this impacted you directly?

The economy impacts everyone directly, does it not?

that is a question not an answer

Ok.

The economy impacts everyone directly.

All of the things you listed surely impact you indirectly. Not directly.

A weakened pound impacts me directly. Loss of FoM impacts me directly.

Can you tell me how many times you were in the EU greater than 3 months in every 6 over the last 10 years.

I can tell you I was planning on retiring to Italy (as I’ve told you before)

So the loss of FoM impacts me directly.

You can still do that, only now you will need to apply directly.

And that visa can be refused, withdrawn etc, and had a cost attached.

So we’re agreed that Brexit has impacted me directly.

It can be refused but highly unlikely if you meet the required entrance criteria. It will only have an impact when you choose to make the move, and by then things might have changed again.

So once again, brexit has impacted me directly.

It will not impact you until you decide to move.

It will impact you now if you know for a fact that you do not meet the entry criteria to retire in Italy.

Which one is it?

You asked for personal reasons why Brexit has impacted people, and now want to argue that they’re wrong. I.E that you know more about them than they do.

This place, man

Which one is it? If you answer that you know that you don't meet the entry requirements for Italy to enable your retirement, I would agree that is a direct impact of brexit.

Whether I do or I don’t, it’s a direct impact. Financially and in citizens rights.

Not until you decide to do it, thinking about doing it isn't a commitment.

The other thing to consider is the BENEFIT brexit will bring to you should you decide to retire.

Applying to retire formally with an Elective Residence Visa will allow you to live in Italy worry free. Imagine if you had retired to Italy and the UK left the EU while you were there. That was always an uncertainty, now you can retire with certainty.

Surely certainty of your future is a benefit?

Fair play to you. This is by far the funniest attempt at a brexit benefit I've ever seen.

Bravo.

what is funny about it? it has been reported as many as 10K pensioners ended their retirement in an EU country post brexit. Many not being able qualify for secure permanent residency. If Funfella still wants to retire to Italy has he said, and he meets the criteria he will get permanent residency. No background worries which will be nice in retirement, a more solid foundation.

Just so we're clear. You're suggesting that the benefit here is that it's already been made harder to retire in an EU country, so those that are able to, don't have to worry about it being made more difficult, because it's already happened.

Bravo. This is really funny.

It's like the benefit of being punched in the face by Mike Tyson. It's already happened, so less likely to happen again.

Qualifying to retire in an EU country now is far more stable, with retired UK citizens having a more solid retirement base in their chosen country.

Not sure how Mike Tyson plays into this but hey ho.

*Far more difficult.

This is really funny though.

Excellent, because this is exactly the same BS that litters the forum everyday by people blaming Brexit for everything that is wrong in the world. You could see the argument was based on the most tenuous of links, and you actually found it funny as in disbelief. Welcome to the world of BS Brexit reasons and excuses, Brexit has taken away freedom of movement that I used 2 weeks of the year when I visited Turkey, I can’t retire in the EU, yes you can, name a Brexit benefit, go on I bet you can’t….

The thread asked what Brexit change has impacted you personally, so far here has been very little to report back on other than one person lost a job which was unfortunate, there must be something other than I wanted to retire in the EU….. "

Blimey.

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By *otMe66 OP   Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"Only 2 things that I have been affected directly by to my knowledge. Getting a booking at a garage to get my car fixed. All the guys in the trade are saying its taking longer to get parts and can't plan work like before.

The supply of fruit and veg. More shortages and the quality is lower. Thats probably a combination of the weather and Brexit.

Another thing not effecting me directly but been told by my friends who run restaurants. Problems with suppliers and getting stock like wine and some other items."

I heard getting hold of car parts was an issue on the radio last week, it is driving up theft from cars! People going out to their cars to find the whole front of the car has been stripped.

Why or how is that a brexit issue, same with the wine?

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By *otMe66 OP   Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"The economic impact has been dramatic and undeniable - of course the day-to-day depends on individuals, their work, their family/relationships etc. some have had to pay lots for citizenship stuff that they previously never had to consider, others have seen businesses collapse or customer bases decline.

The proof of the pudding is when even ardent brexiters struggle to give a cogent argument on what benefits we’ve seen since leaving.

Sorry you say The economic impact can you be more specific as I personally have not seen it.

Productivity down. Imports down. Exports down. New deals insufficient to replace lost trade.

From the OBR: https://obr.uk/forecasts-in-depth/the-economy-forecast/brexit-analysis/#assumptions

How has this impacted you directly?

The economy impacts everyone directly, does it not?

that is a question not an answer

Ok.

The economy impacts everyone directly.

All of the things you listed surely impact you indirectly. Not directly.

A weakened pound impacts me directly. Loss of FoM impacts me directly.

Can you tell me how many times you were in the EU greater than 3 months in every 6 over the last 10 years.

I can tell you I was planning on retiring to Italy (as I’ve told you before)

So the loss of FoM impacts me directly.

You can still do that, only now you will need to apply directly.

And that visa can be refused, withdrawn etc, and had a cost attached.

So we’re agreed that Brexit has impacted me directly.

It can be refused but highly unlikely if you meet the required entrance criteria. It will only have an impact when you choose to make the move, and by then things might have changed again.

So once again, brexit has impacted me directly.

It will not impact you until you decide to move.

It will impact you now if you know for a fact that you do not meet the entry criteria to retire in Italy.

Which one is it?

You asked for personal reasons why Brexit has impacted people, and now want to argue that they’re wrong. I.E that you know more about them than they do.

This place, man

Which one is it? If you answer that you know that you don't meet the entry requirements for Italy to enable your retirement, I would agree that is a direct impact of brexit.

Whether I do or I don’t, it’s a direct impact. Financially and in citizens rights.

Not until you decide to do it, thinking about doing it isn't a commitment.

The other thing to consider is the BENEFIT brexit will bring to you should you decide to retire.

Applying to retire formally with an Elective Residence Visa will allow you to live in Italy worry free. Imagine if you had retired to Italy and the UK left the EU while you were there. That was always an uncertainty, now you can retire with certainty.

Surely certainty of your future is a benefit?

Fair play to you. This is by far the funniest attempt at a brexit benefit I've ever seen.

Bravo.

what is funny about it? it has been reported as many as 10K pensioners ended their retirement in an EU country post brexit. Many not being able qualify for secure permanent residency. If Funfella still wants to retire to Italy has he said, and he meets the criteria he will get permanent residency. No background worries which will be nice in retirement, a more solid foundation.

Just so we're clear. You're suggesting that the benefit here is that it's already been made harder to retire in an EU country, so those that are able to, don't have to worry about it being made more difficult, because it's already happened.

Bravo. This is really funny.

It's like the benefit of being punched in the face by Mike Tyson. It's already happened, so less likely to happen again.

Qualifying to retire in an EU country now is far more stable, with retired UK citizens having a more solid retirement base in their chosen country.

Not sure how Mike Tyson plays into this but hey ho.

*Far more difficult.

This is really funny though.

Excellent, because this is exactly the same BS that litters the forum everyday by people blaming Brexit for everything that is wrong in the world. You could see the argument was based on the most tenuous of links, and you actually found it funny as in disbelief. Welcome to the world of BS Brexit reasons and excuses, Brexit has taken away freedom of movement that I used 2 weeks of the year when I visited Turkey, I can’t retire in the EU, yes you can, name a Brexit benefit, go on I bet you can’t….

The thread asked what Brexit change has impacted you personally, so far here has been very little to report back on other than one person lost a job which was unfortunate, there must be something other than I wanted to retire in the EU…..

You’re once again attempting to be the arbiter of what people find important.

For some brexiters the importance of leaving the EU was the notion of sovereignty. Do we question how important or impactful that is on their life?

I'm not telling anyone what they think is important, I'm asking people what impact has brexit had on you.

If you say it has stopped me from retiring to Italy, I think it is right to challenge that thought, because you can still retire to Italy.

Brexit hasn't prevented that, it has made it more of an administration exercise and you need to meet a criteria that shows you can support yourself, have somewhere to live and have medical insurance but surely you would have had those things in place when we part of the EU?? Do you really think brexit has stopped you retiring to Italy?

I voted remain but not remaining hasn't made life a glass half empty.

I have never said Brexit has stopped me retiring to Italy. I said it has made it less certain, more expensive, and more complicated.

Which I’m sure you’ll agree is an impact - which is what you requested."

That is the first time you have put it like that, and if you do retire it brexit will have caused some extra expense and complications

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London


"Every day we see posts blaming Brexit for any number of things, some have the most tenuous of links to Brexit in my opinion, and that has got me thinking!

What has been the impact of Brexit to you personally?

"

Recruitment for technical staff, both qualified and new has become much harder.

Contract and permanent payroll costs have risen as a consequence.

It is much more complicated to navigate the work visa system and a bigger gamble if it doesn't work out. For both parties.

Transport of components, particularly one off or sporadic is far less reliable and more expensive.

That makes project planning and delivery much harder. This extends timelines and adds contingency and risk which ultimately adds cost.

Holidaying to the EU now just that bit more stressful as rules are less clear and takes that bit more time with immigration etc.

The country is all just a bit angrier and more confrontational than it used to be.

This is the root of most things. Brexit has not single-handedly brought disaster, it just makes everything a little bit worse, from prices to friendliness.

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London


"Only 2 things that I have been affected directly by to my knowledge. Getting a booking at a garage to get my car fixed. All the guys in the trade are saying its taking longer to get parts and can't plan work like before.

The supply of fruit and veg. More shortages and the quality is lower. Thats probably a combination of the weather and Brexit.

Another thing not effecting me directly but been told by my friends who run restaurants. Problems with suppliers and getting stock like wine and some other items.

I heard getting hold of car parts was an issue on the radio last week, it is driving up theft from cars! People going out to their cars to find the whole front of the car has been stripped.

Why or how is that a brexit issue, same with the wine? "

Grit on the system.

If there are shortages the country of origin is supplied first.

We are no longer "domestic", so there is a bit more hassle. We are at the end of the European queue as land roots outside the EU are easier than a sea crossing.

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By *otMe66 OP   Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"Every day we see posts blaming Brexit for any number of things, some have the most tenuous of links to Brexit in my opinion, and that has got me thinking!

What has been the impact of Brexit to you personally?

Recruitment for technical staff, both qualified and new has become much harder.

Contract and permanent payroll costs have risen as a consequence.

It is much more complicated to navigate the work visa system and a bigger gamble if it doesn't work out. For both parties.

Transport of components, particularly one off or sporadic is far less reliable and more expensive.

That makes project planning and delivery much harder. This extends timelines and adds contingency and risk which ultimately adds cost.

Holidaying to the EU now just that bit more stressful as rules are less clear and takes that bit more time with immigration etc.

The country is all just a bit angrier and more confrontational than it used to be.

This is the root of most things. Brexit has not single-handedly brought disaster, it just makes everything a little bit worse, from prices to friendliness."

I think you are on the money with the country being angrier and more confrontational. We have had 2 of the biggest events in my lifetime Brexit and Covid followed by a war and each one has stressed, is stressing our supply chains.

the country needs a win, I think it is time for one

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton


"Every day we see posts blaming Brexit for any number of things, some have the most tenuous of links to Brexit in my opinion, and that has got me thinking!

What has been the impact of Brexit to you personally?

Recruitment for technical staff, both qualified and new has become much harder.

Contract and permanent payroll costs have risen as a consequence.

It is much more complicated to navigate the work visa system and a bigger gamble if it doesn't work out. For both parties.

Transport of components, particularly one off or sporadic is far less reliable and more expensive.

That makes project planning and delivery much harder. This extends timelines and adds contingency and risk which ultimately adds cost.

Holidaying to the EU now just that bit more stressful as rules are less clear and takes that bit more time with immigration etc.

The country is all just a bit angrier and more confrontational than it used to be.

This is the root of most things. Brexit has not single-handedly brought disaster, it just makes everything a little bit worse, from prices to friendliness.

I think you are on the money with the country being angrier and more confrontational. We have had 2 of the biggest events in my lifetime Brexit and Covid followed by a war and each one has stressed, is stressing our supply chains.

the country needs a win, I think it is time for one"

Easy and NotMe on the money here. Just all harder than it used to be! Very wearing!

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By *astandFeistyCouple
over a year ago

Bournemouth


"Every day we see posts blaming Brexit for any number of things, some have the most tenuous of links to Brexit in my opinion, and that has got me thinking!

What has been the impact of Brexit to you personally?

Recruitment for technical staff, both qualified and new has become much harder.

Contract and permanent payroll costs have risen as a consequence.

It is much more complicated to navigate the work visa system and a bigger gamble if it doesn't work out. For both parties.

Transport of components, particularly one off or sporadic is far less reliable and more expensive.

That makes project planning and delivery much harder. This extends timelines and adds contingency and risk which ultimately adds cost.

Holidaying to the EU now just that bit more stressful as rules are less clear and takes that bit more time with immigration etc.

The country is all just a bit angrier and more confrontational than it used to be.

This is the root of most things. Brexit has not single-handedly brought disaster, it just makes everything a little bit worse, from prices to friendliness.

I think you are on the money with the country being angrier and more confrontational. We have had 2 of the biggest events in my lifetime Brexit and Covid followed by a war and each one has stressed, is stressing our supply chains.

the country needs a win, I think it is time for one

Easy and NotMe on the money here. Just all harder than it used to be! Very wearing!"

I'm agreeing with Easy here too (don't say that too often)

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields


"Every day we see posts blaming Brexit for any number of things, some have the most tenuous of links to Brexit in my opinion, and that has got me thinking!

What has been the impact of Brexit to you personally?

Recruitment for technical staff, both qualified and new has become much harder.

Contract and permanent payroll costs have risen as a consequence.

It is much more complicated to navigate the work visa system and a bigger gamble if it doesn't work out. For both parties.

Transport of components, particularly one off or sporadic is far less reliable and more expensive.

That makes project planning and delivery much harder. This extends timelines and adds contingency and risk which ultimately adds cost.

Holidaying to the EU now just that bit more stressful as rules are less clear and takes that bit more time with immigration etc.

The country is all just a bit angrier and more confrontational than it used to be.

This is the root of most things. Brexit has not single-handedly brought disaster, it just makes everything a little bit worse, from prices to friendliness.

I think you are on the money with the country being angrier and more confrontational. We have had 2 of the biggest events in my lifetime Brexit and Covid followed by a war and each one has stressed, is stressing our supply chains.

the country needs a win, I think it is time for one"

What will the win be though? (Open ended question, not specifically asking you, just anyone reading).

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By *astandFeistyCouple
over a year ago

Bournemouth


"Every day we see posts blaming Brexit for any number of things, some have the most tenuous of links to Brexit in my opinion, and that has got me thinking!

What has been the impact of Brexit to you personally?

Recruitment for technical staff, both qualified and new has become much harder.

Contract and permanent payroll costs have risen as a consequence.

It is much more complicated to navigate the work visa system and a bigger gamble if it doesn't work out. For both parties.

Transport of components, particularly one off or sporadic is far less reliable and more expensive.

That makes project planning and delivery much harder. This extends timelines and adds contingency and risk which ultimately adds cost.

Holidaying to the EU now just that bit more stressful as rules are less clear and takes that bit more time with immigration etc.

The country is all just a bit angrier and more confrontational than it used to be.

This is the root of most things. Brexit has not single-handedly brought disaster, it just makes everything a little bit worse, from prices to friendliness.

I think you are on the money with the country being angrier and more confrontational. We have had 2 of the biggest events in my lifetime Brexit and Covid followed by a war and each one has stressed, is stressing our supply chains.

the country needs a win, I think it is time for one

What will the win be though? (Open ended question, not specifically asking you, just anyone reading)."

Jezza is making a comeback - FREE FOR ALL is his strapline

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Every day we see posts blaming Brexit for any number of things, some have the most tenuous of links to Brexit in my opinion, and that has got me thinking!

What has been the impact of Brexit to you personally?

Recruitment for technical staff, both qualified and new has become much harder.

Contract and permanent payroll costs have risen as a consequence.

It is much more complicated to navigate the work visa system and a bigger gamble if it doesn't work out. For both parties.

Transport of components, particularly one off or sporadic is far less reliable and more expensive.

That makes project planning and delivery much harder. This extends timelines and adds contingency and risk which ultimately adds cost.

Holidaying to the EU now just that bit more stressful as rules are less clear and takes that bit more time with immigration etc.

The country is all just a bit angrier and more confrontational than it used to be.

This is the root of most things. Brexit has not single-handedly brought disaster, it just makes everything a little bit worse, from prices to friendliness.

I think you are on the money with the country being angrier and more confrontational. We have had 2 of the biggest events in my lifetime Brexit and Covid followed by a war and each one has stressed, is stressing our supply chains.

the country needs a win, I think it is time for one"

The next GE Will hopefully bring one.

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton


"Every day we see posts blaming Brexit for any number of things, some have the most tenuous of links to Brexit in my opinion, and that has got me thinking!

What has been the impact of Brexit to you personally?

Recruitment for technical staff, both qualified and new has become much harder.

Contract and permanent payroll costs have risen as a consequence.

It is much more complicated to navigate the work visa system and a bigger gamble if it doesn't work out. For both parties.

Transport of components, particularly one off or sporadic is far less reliable and more expensive.

That makes project planning and delivery much harder. This extends timelines and adds contingency and risk which ultimately adds cost.

Holidaying to the EU now just that bit more stressful as rules are less clear and takes that bit more time with immigration etc.

The country is all just a bit angrier and more confrontational than it used to be.

This is the root of most things. Brexit has not single-handedly brought disaster, it just makes everything a little bit worse, from prices to friendliness.

I think you are on the money with the country being angrier and more confrontational. We have had 2 of the biggest events in my lifetime Brexit and Covid followed by a war and each one has stressed, is stressing our supply chains.

the country needs a win, I think it is time for one

Easy and NotMe on the money here. Just all harder than it used to be! Very wearing!

I'm agreeing with Easy here too (don't say that too often) "

BBC WEATHER:

An unseasonal cold front so severe it is being dubbed THE BEAST has caused a complete freeze over in Hell today. Experts are at a loss to explain why!

Local resident S Atan is quoted as saying “those Fab fuckers have ruined my popcorn crop!”

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By *otMe66 OP   Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"Every day we see posts blaming Brexit for any number of things, some have the most tenuous of links to Brexit in my opinion, and that has got me thinking!

What has been the impact of Brexit to you personally?

Recruitment for technical staff, both qualified and new has become much harder.

Contract and permanent payroll costs have risen as a consequence.

It is much more complicated to navigate the work visa system and a bigger gamble if it doesn't work out. For both parties.

Transport of components, particularly one off or sporadic is far less reliable and more expensive.

That makes project planning and delivery much harder. This extends timelines and adds contingency and risk which ultimately adds cost.

Holidaying to the EU now just that bit more stressful as rules are less clear and takes that bit more time with immigration etc.

The country is all just a bit angrier and more confrontational than it used to be.

This is the root of most things. Brexit has not single-handedly brought disaster, it just makes everything a little bit worse, from prices to friendliness.

I think you are on the money with the country being angrier and more confrontational. We have had 2 of the biggest events in my lifetime Brexit and Covid followed by a war and each one has stressed, is stressing our supply chains.

the country needs a win, I think it is time for one

What will the win be though? (Open ended question, not specifically asking you, just anyone reading)."

Maybe it isn't one win but a number of wins.

The first thing I can think of is changing the government, although I have my reservations about SKS and the labour party it could be a mood changer for the good.

A few things that have been on the forum thatI think are good ideas and could be very popular:

Nationalise our essential services, but nationalise with a view of outsourcing the running of to maximise customer satisfaction whilst owning the core product / service.

Outlaw price hikes on family holidays during school holidays

Scrap HS2

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By *otMe66 OP   Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"Every day we see posts blaming Brexit for any number of things, some have the most tenuous of links to Brexit in my opinion, and that has got me thinking!

What has been the impact of Brexit to you personally?

Recruitment for technical staff, both qualified and new has become much harder.

Contract and permanent payroll costs have risen as a consequence.

It is much more complicated to navigate the work visa system and a bigger gamble if it doesn't work out. For both parties.

Transport of components, particularly one off or sporadic is far less reliable and more expensive.

That makes project planning and delivery much harder. This extends timelines and adds contingency and risk which ultimately adds cost.

Holidaying to the EU now just that bit more stressful as rules are less clear and takes that bit more time with immigration etc.

The country is all just a bit angrier and more confrontational than it used to be.

This is the root of most things. Brexit has not single-handedly brought disaster, it just makes everything a little bit worse, from prices to friendliness.

I think you are on the money with the country being angrier and more confrontational. We have had 2 of the biggest events in my lifetime Brexit and Covid followed by a war and each one has stressed, is stressing our supply chains.

the country needs a win, I think it is time for one

Easy and NotMe on the money here. Just all harder than it used to be! Very wearing!

I'm agreeing with Easy here too (don't say that too often)

BBC WEATHER:

An unseasonal cold front so severe it is being dubbed THE BEAST has caused a complete freeze over in Hell today. Experts are at a loss to explain why!

Local resident S Atan is quoted as saying “those Fab fuckers have ruined my popcorn crop!”"

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton


"Every day we see posts blaming Brexit for any number of things, some have the most tenuous of links to Brexit in my opinion, and that has got me thinking!

What has been the impact of Brexit to you personally?

Recruitment for technical staff, both qualified and new has become much harder.

Contract and permanent payroll costs have risen as a consequence.

It is much more complicated to navigate the work visa system and a bigger gamble if it doesn't work out. For both parties.

Transport of components, particularly one off or sporadic is far less reliable and more expensive.

That makes project planning and delivery much harder. This extends timelines and adds contingency and risk which ultimately adds cost.

Holidaying to the EU now just that bit more stressful as rules are less clear and takes that bit more time with immigration etc.

The country is all just a bit angrier and more confrontational than it used to be.

This is the root of most things. Brexit has not single-handedly brought disaster, it just makes everything a little bit worse, from prices to friendliness.

I think you are on the money with the country being angrier and more confrontational. We have had 2 of the biggest events in my lifetime Brexit and Covid followed by a war and each one has stressed, is stressing our supply chains.

the country needs a win, I think it is time for one

What will the win be though? (Open ended question, not specifically asking you, just anyone reading).

Maybe it isn't one win but a number of wins.

The first thing I can think of is changing the government, although I have my reservations about SKS and the labour party it could be a mood changer for the good.

A few things that have been on the forum thatI think are good ideas and could be very popular:

Nationalise our essential services, but nationalise with a view of outsourcing the running of to maximise customer satisfaction whilst owning the core product / service.

Outlaw price hikes on family holidays during school holidays

Scrap HS2

"

Stick those in a manifesto you have my vote

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Every day we see posts blaming Brexit for any number of things, some have the most tenuous of links to Brexit in my opinion, and that has got me thinking!

What has been the impact of Brexit to you personally?

Recruitment for technical staff, both qualified and new has become much harder.

Contract and permanent payroll costs have risen as a consequence.

It is much more complicated to navigate the work visa system and a bigger gamble if it doesn't work out. For both parties.

Transport of components, particularly one off or sporadic is far less reliable and more expensive.

That makes project planning and delivery much harder. This extends timelines and adds contingency and risk which ultimately adds cost.

Holidaying to the EU now just that bit more stressful as rules are less clear and takes that bit more time with immigration etc.

The country is all just a bit angrier and more confrontational than it used to be.

This is the root of most things. Brexit has not single-handedly brought disaster, it just makes everything a little bit worse, from prices to friendliness.

I think you are on the money with the country being angrier and more confrontational. We have had 2 of the biggest events in my lifetime Brexit and Covid followed by a war and each one has stressed, is stressing our supply chains.

the country needs a win, I think it is time for one

What will the win be though? (Open ended question, not specifically asking you, just anyone reading).

Maybe it isn't one win but a number of wins.

The first thing I can think of is changing the government, although I have my reservations about SKS and the labour party it could be a mood changer for the good.

A few things that have been on the forum thatI think are good ideas and could be very popular:

Nationalise our essential services, but nationalise with a view of outsourcing the running of to maximise customer satisfaction whilst owning the core product / service.

Outlaw price hikes on family holidays during school holidays

Scrap HS2

"

Scrapping HS2 would be very popular short term - but it’s actually a beneficial project (if it were completed to its original plan).

It’s been a mess. Started from the wrong end, with the benefits being incorrectly sold (it’s not about journey time, it’s about creating capacity and reducing the strain on the existing network)

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By *astandFeistyCouple
over a year ago

Bournemouth


"Every day we see posts blaming Brexit for any number of things, some have the most tenuous of links to Brexit in my opinion, and that has got me thinking!

What has been the impact of Brexit to you personally?

Recruitment for technical staff, both qualified and new has become much harder.

Contract and permanent payroll costs have risen as a consequence.

It is much more complicated to navigate the work visa system and a bigger gamble if it doesn't work out. For both parties.

Transport of components, particularly one off or sporadic is far less reliable and more expensive.

That makes project planning and delivery much harder. This extends timelines and adds contingency and risk which ultimately adds cost.

Holidaying to the EU now just that bit more stressful as rules are less clear and takes that bit more time with immigration etc.

The country is all just a bit angrier and more confrontational than it used to be.

This is the root of most things. Brexit has not single-handedly brought disaster, it just makes everything a little bit worse, from prices to friendliness.

I think you are on the money with the country being angrier and more confrontational. We have had 2 of the biggest events in my lifetime Brexit and Covid followed by a war and each one has stressed, is stressing our supply chains.

the country needs a win, I think it is time for one

What will the win be though? (Open ended question, not specifically asking you, just anyone reading).

Maybe it isn't one win but a number of wins.

The first thing I can think of is changing the government, although I have my reservations about SKS and the labour party it could be a mood changer for the good.

A few things that have been on the forum thatI think are good ideas and could be very popular:

Nationalise our essential services, but nationalise with a view of outsourcing the running of to maximise customer satisfaction whilst owning the core product / service.

Outlaw price hikes on family holidays during school holidays

Scrap HS2

"

But can you cost them? Or are we just saying fuck the costs, it's for the benefit of the nation?

I agree with them btw.

I'd add a tax reform in the sense of making it simpler. There's too many different taxes.

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By *otMe66 OP   Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"Every day we see posts blaming Brexit for any number of things, some have the most tenuous of links to Brexit in my opinion, and that has got me thinking!

What has been the impact of Brexit to you personally?

Recruitment for technical staff, both qualified and new has become much harder.

Contract and permanent payroll costs have risen as a consequence.

It is much more complicated to navigate the work visa system and a bigger gamble if it doesn't work out. For both parties.

Transport of components, particularly one off or sporadic is far less reliable and more expensive.

That makes project planning and delivery much harder. This extends timelines and adds contingency and risk which ultimately adds cost.

Holidaying to the EU now just that bit more stressful as rules are less clear and takes that bit more time with immigration etc.

The country is all just a bit angrier and more confrontational than it used to be.

This is the root of most things. Brexit has not single-handedly brought disaster, it just makes everything a little bit worse, from prices to friendliness.

I think you are on the money with the country being angrier and more confrontational. We have had 2 of the biggest events in my lifetime Brexit and Covid followed by a war and each one has stressed, is stressing our supply chains.

the country needs a win, I think it is time for one

What will the win be though? (Open ended question, not specifically asking you, just anyone reading).

Maybe it isn't one win but a number of wins.

The first thing I can think of is changing the government, although I have my reservations about SKS and the labour party it could be a mood changer for the good.

A few things that have been on the forum thatI think are good ideas and could be very popular:

Nationalise our essential services, but nationalise with a view of outsourcing the running of to maximise customer satisfaction whilst owning the core product / service.

Outlaw price hikes on family holidays during school holidays

Scrap HS2

But can you cost them? Or are we just saying fuck the costs, it's for the benefit of the nation?

I agree with them btw.

I'd add a tax reform in the sense of making it simpler. There's too many different taxes."

It is time to fuck the costs and get the house in order. Do it once and do it right

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Only 2 things that I have been affected directly by to my knowledge. Getting a booking at a garage to get my car fixed. All the guys in the trade are saying its taking longer to get parts and can't plan work like before.

The supply of fruit and veg. More shortages and the quality is lower. Thats probably a combination of the weather and Brexit.

Another thing not effecting me directly but been told by my friends who run restaurants. Problems with suppliers and getting stock like wine and some other items.

I heard getting hold of car parts was an issue on the radio last week, it is driving up theft from cars! People going out to their cars to find the whole front of the car has been stripped.

Why or how is that a brexit issue, same with the wine? "

According to the the garage owners i have spoken to. They use to order a part today, and it would arrive the next day. Now it can be 3 to 10 days because its coming from Europe and it depends on how quick the lorries getting through port checks. So in the garages I use, the one that use to be not so busy and use to tell you to come in tomorrow or following day, says now next week or the week after. The busy one use to say 2 weeks, now says 4 to 6 weeks.

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By *astandFeistyCouple
over a year ago

Bournemouth


"Every day we see posts blaming Brexit for any number of things, some have the most tenuous of links to Brexit in my opinion, and that has got me thinking!

What has been the impact of Brexit to you personally?

Recruitment for technical staff, both qualified and new has become much harder.

Contract and permanent payroll costs have risen as a consequence.

It is much more complicated to navigate the work visa system and a bigger gamble if it doesn't work out. For both parties.

Transport of components, particularly one off or sporadic is far less reliable and more expensive.

That makes project planning and delivery much harder. This extends timelines and adds contingency and risk which ultimately adds cost.

Holidaying to the EU now just that bit more stressful as rules are less clear and takes that bit more time with immigration etc.

The country is all just a bit angrier and more confrontational than it used to be.

This is the root of most things. Brexit has not single-handedly brought disaster, it just makes everything a little bit worse, from prices to friendliness.

I think you are on the money with the country being angrier and more confrontational. We have had 2 of the biggest events in my lifetime Brexit and Covid followed by a war and each one has stressed, is stressing our supply chains.

the country needs a win, I think it is time for one

What will the win be though? (Open ended question, not specifically asking you, just anyone reading).

Maybe it isn't one win but a number of wins.

The first thing I can think of is changing the government, although I have my reservations about SKS and the labour party it could be a mood changer for the good.

A few things that have been on the forum thatI think are good ideas and could be very popular:

Nationalise our essential services, but nationalise with a view of outsourcing the running of to maximise customer satisfaction whilst owning the core product / service.

Outlaw price hikes on family holidays during school holidays

Scrap HS2

But can you cost them? Or are we just saying fuck the costs, it's for the benefit of the nation?

I agree with them btw.

I'd add a tax reform in the sense of making it simpler. There's too many different taxes.

It is time to fuck the costs and get the house in order. Do it once and do it right"

Fair enough

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By *otMe66 OP   Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"Every day we see posts blaming Brexit for any number of things, some have the most tenuous of links to Brexit in my opinion, and that has got me thinking!

What has been the impact of Brexit to you personally?

Recruitment for technical staff, both qualified and new has become much harder.

Contract and permanent payroll costs have risen as a consequence.

It is much more complicated to navigate the work visa system and a bigger gamble if it doesn't work out. For both parties.

Transport of components, particularly one off or sporadic is far less reliable and more expensive.

That makes project planning and delivery much harder. This extends timelines and adds contingency and risk which ultimately adds cost.

Holidaying to the EU now just that bit more stressful as rules are less clear and takes that bit more time with immigration etc.

The country is all just a bit angrier and more confrontational than it used to be.

This is the root of most things. Brexit has not single-handedly brought disaster, it just makes everything a little bit worse, from prices to friendliness.

I think you are on the money with the country being angrier and more confrontational. We have had 2 of the biggest events in my lifetime Brexit and Covid followed by a war and each one has stressed, is stressing our supply chains.

the country needs a win, I think it is time for one

What will the win be though? (Open ended question, not specifically asking you, just anyone reading).

Maybe it isn't one win but a number of wins.

The first thing I can think of is changing the government, although I have my reservations about SKS and the labour party it could be a mood changer for the good.

A few things that have been on the forum thatI think are good ideas and could be very popular:

Nationalise our essential services, but nationalise with a view of outsourcing the running of to maximise customer satisfaction whilst owning the core product / service.

Outlaw price hikes on family holidays during school holidays

Scrap HS2

But can you cost them? Or are we just saying fuck the costs, it's for the benefit of the nation?

I agree with them btw.

I'd add a tax reform in the sense of making it simpler. There's too many different taxes.

It is time to fuck the costs and get the house in order. Do it once and do it right

Fair enough "

I think we keep throwing money at the all the wrong things and we have so many lessons from the last 3 years that we could go balls in and really provide services and future safety and prosperity to the nation over the next 10-15 years.

The message alone could rejuvenate the countries spirit, and now I have said that I think it is even simpler, we need a plan we can get behind.

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By *astandFeistyCouple
over a year ago

Bournemouth


"Every day we see posts blaming Brexit for any number of things, some have the most tenuous of links to Brexit in my opinion, and that has got me thinking!

What has been the impact of Brexit to you personally?

Recruitment for technical staff, both qualified and new has become much harder.

Contract and permanent payroll costs have risen as a consequence.

It is much more complicated to navigate the work visa system and a bigger gamble if it doesn't work out. For both parties.

Transport of components, particularly one off or sporadic is far less reliable and more expensive.

That makes project planning and delivery much harder. This extends timelines and adds contingency and risk which ultimately adds cost.

Holidaying to the EU now just that bit more stressful as rules are less clear and takes that bit more time with immigration etc.

The country is all just a bit angrier and more confrontational than it used to be.

This is the root of most things. Brexit has not single-handedly brought disaster, it just makes everything a little bit worse, from prices to friendliness.

I think you are on the money with the country being angrier and more confrontational. We have had 2 of the biggest events in my lifetime Brexit and Covid followed by a war and each one has stressed, is stressing our supply chains.

the country needs a win, I think it is time for one

What will the win be though? (Open ended question, not specifically asking you, just anyone reading).

Maybe it isn't one win but a number of wins.

The first thing I can think of is changing the government, although I have my reservations about SKS and the labour party it could be a mood changer for the good.

A few things that have been on the forum thatI think are good ideas and could be very popular:

Nationalise our essential services, but nationalise with a view of outsourcing the running of to maximise customer satisfaction whilst owning the core product / service.

Outlaw price hikes on family holidays during school holidays

Scrap HS2

But can you cost them? Or are we just saying fuck the costs, it's for the benefit of the nation?

I agree with them btw.

I'd add a tax reform in the sense of making it simpler. There's too many different taxes.

It is time to fuck the costs and get the house in order. Do it once and do it right

Fair enough

I think we keep throwing money at the all the wrong things and we have so many lessons from the last 3 years that we could go balls in and really provide services and future safety and prosperity to the nation over the next 10-15 years.

The message alone could rejuvenate the countries spirit, and now I have said that I think it is even simpler, we need a plan we can get behind. "

Big Jezza - FREE FOR ALL.

That's all we need, I'm telling you

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton


"Every day we see posts blaming Brexit for any number of things, some have the most tenuous of links to Brexit in my opinion, and that has got me thinking!

What has been the impact of Brexit to you personally?

Recruitment for technical staff, both qualified and new has become much harder.

Contract and permanent payroll costs have risen as a consequence.

It is much more complicated to navigate the work visa system and a bigger gamble if it doesn't work out. For both parties.

Transport of components, particularly one off or sporadic is far less reliable and more expensive.

That makes project planning and delivery much harder. This extends timelines and adds contingency and risk which ultimately adds cost.

Holidaying to the EU now just that bit more stressful as rules are less clear and takes that bit more time with immigration etc.

The country is all just a bit angrier and more confrontational than it used to be.

This is the root of most things. Brexit has not single-handedly brought disaster, it just makes everything a little bit worse, from prices to friendliness.

I think you are on the money with the country being angrier and more confrontational. We have had 2 of the biggest events in my lifetime Brexit and Covid followed by a war and each one has stressed, is stressing our supply chains.

the country needs a win, I think it is time for one

What will the win be though? (Open ended question, not specifically asking you, just anyone reading).

Maybe it isn't one win but a number of wins.

The first thing I can think of is changing the government, although I have my reservations about SKS and the labour party it could be a mood changer for the good.

A few things that have been on the forum thatI think are good ideas and could be very popular:

Nationalise our essential services, but nationalise with a view of outsourcing the running of to maximise customer satisfaction whilst owning the core product / service.

Outlaw price hikes on family holidays during school holidays

Scrap HS2

But can you cost them? Or are we just saying fuck the costs, it's for the benefit of the nation?

I agree with them btw.

I'd add a tax reform in the sense of making it simpler. There's too many different taxes.

It is time to fuck the costs and get the house in order. Do it once and do it right

Fair enough

I think we keep throwing money at the all the wrong things and we have so many lessons from the last 3 years that we could go balls in and really provide services and future safety and prosperity to the nation over the next 10-15 years.

The message alone could rejuvenate the countries spirit, and now I have said that I think it is even simpler, we need a plan we can get behind.

Big Jezza - FREE FOR ALL.

That's all we need, I'm telling you "

Well Old Spaffer Johnson is available for some consultancy. He’ll tell you where all the money went and you can reclaim it from his chums n cronies to create a war chest to get started on your pet projects!

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By *astandFeistyCouple
over a year ago

Bournemouth


"Every day we see posts blaming Brexit for any number of things, some have the most tenuous of links to Brexit in my opinion, and that has got me thinking!

What has been the impact of Brexit to you personally?

Recruitment for technical staff, both qualified and new has become much harder.

Contract and permanent payroll costs have risen as a consequence.

It is much more complicated to navigate the work visa system and a bigger gamble if it doesn't work out. For both parties.

Transport of components, particularly one off or sporadic is far less reliable and more expensive.

That makes project planning and delivery much harder. This extends timelines and adds contingency and risk which ultimately adds cost.

Holidaying to the EU now just that bit more stressful as rules are less clear and takes that bit more time with immigration etc.

The country is all just a bit angrier and more confrontational than it used to be.

This is the root of most things. Brexit has not single-handedly brought disaster, it just makes everything a little bit worse, from prices to friendliness.

I think you are on the money with the country being angrier and more confrontational. We have had 2 of the biggest events in my lifetime Brexit and Covid followed by a war and each one has stressed, is stressing our supply chains.

the country needs a win, I think it is time for one

What will the win be though? (Open ended question, not specifically asking you, just anyone reading).

Maybe it isn't one win but a number of wins.

The first thing I can think of is changing the government, although I have my reservations about SKS and the labour party it could be a mood changer for the good.

A few things that have been on the forum thatI think are good ideas and could be very popular:

Nationalise our essential services, but nationalise with a view of outsourcing the running of to maximise customer satisfaction whilst owning the core product / service.

Outlaw price hikes on family holidays during school holidays

Scrap HS2

But can you cost them? Or are we just saying fuck the costs, it's for the benefit of the nation?

I agree with them btw.

I'd add a tax reform in the sense of making it simpler. There's too many different taxes.

It is time to fuck the costs and get the house in order. Do it once and do it right

Fair enough

I think we keep throwing money at the all the wrong things and we have so many lessons from the last 3 years that we could go balls in and really provide services and future safety and prosperity to the nation over the next 10-15 years.

The message alone could rejuvenate the countries spirit, and now I have said that I think it is even simpler, we need a plan we can get behind.

Big Jezza - FREE FOR ALL.

That's all we need, I'm telling you

Well Old Spaffer Johnson is available for some consultancy. He’ll tell you where all the money went and you can reclaim it from his chums n cronies to create a war chest to get started on your pet projects!"

I think he's had enough of the public purse. I'd rather pay TB

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London


"Every day we see posts blaming Brexit for any number of things, some have the most tenuous of links to Brexit in my opinion, and that has got me thinking!

What has been the impact of Brexit to you personally?

"

I personally get to see the country run by people who would never have got a sniff of a Ministerial job (and whatever Dominic Cummings was) if it wasn't for every non-Brexiteer being hounded out of the Conservative party.

Also years of distraction from actually making people's lives better through the endless cycle of negotiations to leave the EU followed by renegotiation.

On top of that the psycho-drama of the Conservative party's civil war.

All directly as a consequence of Brexit as it has infected the news for eight years.

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By *rLibertineMan
over a year ago

North Suffolk


"Every day we see posts blaming Brexit for any number of things, some have the most tenuous of links to Brexit in my opinion, and that has got me thinking!

What has been the impact of Brexit to you personally?

I personally get to see the country run by people who would never have got a sniff of a Ministerial job (and whatever Dominic Cummings was) if it wasn't for every non-Brexiteer being hounded out of the Conservative party.

Also years of distraction from actually making people's lives better through the endless cycle of negotiations to leave the EU followed by renegotiation.

On top of that the psycho-drama of the Conservative party's civil war.

All directly as a consequence of Brexit as it has infected the news for eight years."

Agree with the above along with the utter social division which has arisen.

However, in a minor point I want to buy a Rose road bike… Rose now no longer ship to the UK due to brexit (see their website- explicitly stated) so now I need to drive to Germany to get my bike….

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By *otMe66 OP   Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"Every day we see posts blaming Brexit for any number of things, some have the most tenuous of links to Brexit in my opinion, and that has got me thinking!

What has been the impact of Brexit to you personally?

I personally get to see the country run by people who would never have got a sniff of a Ministerial job (and whatever Dominic Cummings was) if it wasn't for every non-Brexiteer being hounded out of the Conservative party.

Also years of distraction from actually making people's lives better through the endless cycle of negotiations to leave the EU followed by renegotiation.

On top of that the psycho-drama of the Conservative party's civil war.

All directly as a consequence of Brexit as it has infected the news for eight years.

Agree with the above along with the utter social division which has arisen.

However, in a minor point I want to buy a Rose road bike… Rose now no longer ship to the UK due to brexit (see their website- explicitly stated) so now I need to drive to Germany to get my bike…."

Can’t you arrange a DHL, FedEx or UPS pick up and drop off? Or are trying to fly under the tax radar

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By *ind PaddyMan
over a year ago

South County Dublin


"The GBP also devalued against the USD, especially in the immediate aftermath of the Brexit referendum. So combined with a reduction against the Euro, it means pretty much everything has got more expensive for people in the UK."

I've bought a few things from UK and had to pay Irish customs taxes on them. There are a lot of British people who found Irish grandparents, so they could get EU passport.

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By *ind PaddyMan
over a year ago

South County Dublin


"The question is how has Brexit impacted you. Some things are shite, some aren't but we're not suffering to an extreme point. It's how you deal with it and who's to say it would've been any better if we were still in the EU? Mystic Meg?

NI has no government. Roads have potholes which are not being repaired. Schools have no money and asking parents to fund basics. Waiting lists are longest in UK. This is as a result of ERG and DUP wanting changes to protocol. This is a direct result impact of brexit and is impacting every person in NI. Negative impact

Apart from having no Govt, welcome to being on par with the rest of the UK

BTW, isn't your location in the Republic?"

Good spot, Co Donegal

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By *rLibertineMan
over a year ago

North Suffolk


"Every day we see posts blaming Brexit for any number of things, some have the most tenuous of links to Brexit in my opinion, and that has got me thinking!

What has been the impact of Brexit to you personally?

I personally get to see the country run by people who would never have got a sniff of a Ministerial job (and whatever Dominic Cummings was) if it wasn't for every non-Brexiteer being hounded out of the Conservative party.

Also years of distraction from actually making people's lives better through the endless cycle of negotiations to leave the EU followed by renegotiation.

On top of that the psycho-drama of the Conservative party's civil war.

All directly as a consequence of Brexit as it has infected the news for eight years.

Agree with the above along with the utter social division which has arisen.

However, in a minor point I want to buy a Rose road bike… Rose now no longer ship to the UK due to brexit (see their website- explicitly stated) so now I need to drive to Germany to get my bike….

Can’t you arrange a DHL, FedEx or UPS pick up and drop off? Or are trying to fly under the tax radar"

yes i could do so it’s no biggie - tbh i am quite happy to have an excuse for a weekend roadtrip to Germany ??

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By *otMe66 OP   Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"Every day we see posts blaming Brexit for any number of things, some have the most tenuous of links to Brexit in my opinion, and that has got me thinking!

What has been the impact of Brexit to you personally?

I personally get to see the country run by people who would never have got a sniff of a Ministerial job (and whatever Dominic Cummings was) if it wasn't for every non-Brexiteer being hounded out of the Conservative party.

Also years of distraction from actually making people's lives better through the endless cycle of negotiations to leave the EU followed by renegotiation.

On top of that the psycho-drama of the Conservative party's civil war.

All directly as a consequence of Brexit as it has infected the news for eight years.

Agree with the above along with the utter social division which has arisen.

However, in a minor point I want to buy a Rose road bike… Rose now no longer ship to the UK due to brexit (see their website- explicitly stated) so now I need to drive to Germany to get my bike….

Can’t you arrange a DHL, FedEx or UPS pick up and drop off? Or are trying to fly under the tax radar

yes i could do so it’s no biggie - tbh i am quite happy to have an excuse for a weekend roadtrip to Germany ??"

A side order of Brexit benefit

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
over a year ago

Hastings


"The economic impact has been dramatic and undeniable - of course the day-to-day depends on individuals, their work, their family/relationships etc. some have had to pay lots for citizenship stuff that they previously never had to consider, others have seen businesses collapse or customer bases decline.

The proof of the pudding is when even ardent brexiters struggle to give a cogent argument on what benefits we’ve seen since leaving.

Sorry you say The economic impact can you be more specific as I personally have not seen it.

Productivity down. Imports down. Exports down. New deals insufficient to replace lost trade.

From the OBR: https://obr.uk/forecasts-in-depth/the-economy-forecast/brexit-analysis/#assumptions"

So do you always expect growth grow grow grow..

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
over a year ago

Hastings


"The economic impact has been dramatic and undeniable - of course the day-to-day depends on individuals, their work, their family/relationships etc. some have had to pay lots for citizenship stuff that they previously never had to consider, others have seen businesses collapse or customer bases decline.

The proof of the pudding is when even ardent brexiters struggle to give a cogent argument on what benefits we’ve seen since leaving.

Sorry you say The economic impact can you be more specific as I personally have not seen it.

There's a hermit in Snowdonia who also hasn't seen the economic impact.

Allegedly."

Yes things are more expensive but due to the lack of cheap labour income is up business is booming to be honest. So not noticed an economic impact. Still booki g holidays to nice places. And interest on savings and investment is doing well..

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By *eroy1000Man
over a year ago

milton keynes

If it was not for the odd story on the news and the threads on here the only reason I would know about brexit is the much improved working conditions, pay and benefits since unlimited cheap Labour has stopped. I can still buy all the things I used to and go on holiday to where I used to.

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