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"If Rishi Sunak reads the room before the next election and commits the U.K. to a much closer relationship with the EU when Johnson’s deal is up for renewal, the Conservatives would leave Starmer and the Labour Party completely stymied. Regardless of the ongoing economic hit, problems in N Ireland and pointless red tape that is happening because of Brexit, polls after polls are suggesting that people think that Brexit was wrong. Today’s ITV youth poll indicated that 86% of our future butchers, bakers and candlestick makers would vote to join the EU. Joining the EU is not going to happen again anytime soon, but a Party that commits to a closer relationship as a means of normalising the economy, travel and N Ireland is surely going to win votes at the next election. (This is not about arguing whether Brexit was right or wrong, but how politically the two main parties have (so far) laid their stalls out regarding Brexit and the EU. Sunak hasn’t really said anything yet, whereas Starmer has stated categorically that there is no justification for further debate and the EU/Brexit case is closed." Sunak is out smarting SKS at every step and SKS is pressing the self destruct button at every opportunity. | |||
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"If Rishi Sunak reads the room before the next election and commits the U.K. to a much closer relationship with the EU when Johnson’s deal is up for renewal, the Conservatives would leave Starmer and the Labour Party completely stymied. Regardless of the ongoing economic hit, problems in N Ireland and pointless red tape that is happening because of Brexit, polls after polls are suggesting that people think that Brexit was wrong. Today’s ITV youth poll indicated that 86% of our future butchers, bakers and candlestick makers would vote to join the EU. Joining the EU is not going to happen again anytime soon, but a Party that commits to a closer relationship as a means of normalising the economy, travel and N Ireland is surely going to win votes at the next election. (This is not about arguing whether Brexit was right or wrong, but how politically the two main parties have (so far) laid their stalls out regarding Brexit and the EU. Sunak hasn’t really said anything yet, whereas Starmer has stated categorically that there is no justification for further debate and the EU/Brexit case is closed. Sunak is out smarting SKS at every step and SKS is pressing the self destruct button at every opportunity." Labour are 16 points ahead in the polls  | |||
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"If Rishi Sunak reads the room before the next election and commits the U.K. to a much closer relationship with the EU when Johnson’s deal is up for renewal, the Conservatives would leave Starmer and the Labour Party completely stymied. Regardless of the ongoing economic hit, problems in N Ireland and pointless red tape that is happening because of Brexit, polls after polls are suggesting that people think that Brexit was wrong. Today’s ITV youth poll indicated that 86% of our future butchers, bakers and candlestick makers would vote to join the EU. Joining the EU is not going to happen again anytime soon, but a Party that commits to a closer relationship as a means of normalising the economy, travel and N Ireland is surely going to win votes at the next election. (This is not about arguing whether Brexit was right or wrong, but how politically the two main parties have (so far) laid their stalls out regarding Brexit and the EU. Sunak hasn’t really said anything yet, whereas Starmer has stated categorically that there is no justification for further debate and the EU/Brexit case is closed. Sunak is out smarting SKS at every step and SKS is pressing the self destruct button at every opportunity. Labour are 16 points ahead in the polls "There are no doubting the polls but looking at trends you can see the Tories narrowing and narrowing that gap. That's not good for Labour. | |||
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"If Rishi Sunak reads the room before the next election and commits the U.K. to a much closer relationship with the EU when Johnson’s deal is up for renewal, the Conservatives would leave Starmer and the Labour Party completely stymied. Regardless of the ongoing economic hit, problems in N Ireland and pointless red tape that is happening because of Brexit, polls after polls are suggesting that people think that Brexit was wrong. Today’s ITV youth poll indicated that 86% of our future butchers, bakers and candlestick makers would vote to join the EU. Joining the EU is not going to happen again anytime soon, but a Party that commits to a closer relationship as a means of normalising the economy, travel and N Ireland is surely going to win votes at the next election. (This is not about arguing whether Brexit was right or wrong, but how politically the two main parties have (so far) laid their stalls out regarding Brexit and the EU. Sunak hasn’t really said anything yet, whereas Starmer has stated categorically that there is no justification for further debate and the EU/Brexit case is closed. Sunak is out smarting SKS at every step and SKS is pressing the self destruct button at every opportunity. Labour are 16 points ahead in the polls
There are no doubting the polls but looking at trends you can see the Tories narrowing and narrowing that gap.
That's not good for Labour."Slightly, Sunak is a competent PM, but he is surrounded by shite and the economy has crashed, inflation at a 40 year high Living standards at a 40 year low Millions on strikes Thousands of boat asylum seekers etc etc Certain people will never vote for him because of what he did to Boris and because he is of Asian heritage , he will lose million of voters to reform. | |||
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"If Rishi Sunak reads the room before the next election and commits the U.K. to a much closer relationship with the EU when Johnson’s deal is up for renewal, the Conservatives would leave Starmer and the Labour Party completely stymied. Regardless of the ongoing economic hit, problems in N Ireland and pointless red tape that is happening because of Brexit, polls after polls are suggesting that people think that Brexit was wrong. Today’s ITV youth poll indicated that 86% of our future butchers, bakers and candlestick makers would vote to join the EU. Joining the EU is not going to happen again anytime soon, but a Party that commits to a closer relationship as a means of normalising the economy, travel and N Ireland is surely going to win votes at the next election. (This is not about arguing whether Brexit was right or wrong, but how politically the two main parties have (so far) laid their stalls out regarding Brexit and the EU. Sunak hasn’t really said anything yet, whereas Starmer has stated categorically that there is no justification for further debate and the EU/Brexit case is closed. Sunak is out smarting SKS at every step and SKS is pressing the self destruct button at every opportunity. Labour are 16 points ahead in the polls "At the rate at which the U turns are being made by Keir Starmer we shall soon be in single figures....  | |||
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"If Rishi Sunak reads the room before the next election and commits the U.K. to a much closer relationship with the EU when Johnson’s deal is up for renewal, the Conservatives would leave Starmer and the Labour Party completely stymied. Regardless of the ongoing economic hit, problems in N Ireland and pointless red tape that is happening because of Brexit, polls after polls are suggesting that people think that Brexit was wrong. Today’s ITV youth poll indicated that 86% of our future butchers, bakers and candlestick makers would vote to join the EU. Joining the EU is not going to happen again anytime soon, but a Party that commits to a closer relationship as a means of normalising the economy, travel and N Ireland is surely going to win votes at the next election. (This is not about arguing whether Brexit was right or wrong, but how politically the two main parties have (so far) laid their stalls out regarding Brexit and the EU. Sunak hasn’t really said anything yet, whereas Starmer has stated categorically that there is no justification for further debate and the EU/Brexit case is closed. Sunak is out smarting SKS at every step and SKS is pressing the self destruct button at every opportunity. Labour are 16 points ahead in the polls
There are no doubting the polls but looking at trends you can see the Tories narrowing and narrowing that gap.
That's not good for Labour.
Slightly, Sunak is a competent PM, but he is surrounded by shite and the economy has crashed, inflation at a 40 year high
Living standards at a 40 year low
Millions on strikes
Thousands of boat asylum seekers etc etc
Certain people will never vote for him because of what he did to Boris and because he is of Asian heritage , he will lose million of voters to reform. "Oh I still don't think the Tories will will the election but there's no doubt that the polls have only been going one way since Sunak was appointed PM | |||
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"If Rishi Sunak reads the room before the next election and commits the U.K. to a much closer relationship with the EU when Johnson’s deal is up for renewal, the Conservatives would leave Starmer and the Labour Party completely stymied. Regardless of the ongoing economic hit, problems in N Ireland and pointless red tape that is happening because of Brexit, polls after polls are suggesting that people think that Brexit was wrong. Today’s ITV youth poll indicated that 86% of our future butchers, bakers and candlestick makers would vote to join the EU. Joining the EU is not going to happen again anytime soon, but a Party that commits to a closer relationship as a means of normalising the economy, travel and N Ireland is surely going to win votes at the next election. (This is not about arguing whether Brexit was right or wrong, but how politically the two main parties have (so far) laid their stalls out regarding Brexit and the EU. Sunak hasn’t really said anything yet, whereas Starmer has stated categorically that there is no justification for further debate and the EU/Brexit case is closed." Say goodbye to the red wall and many other votes. | |||
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"If Rishi Sunak reads the room before the next election and commits the U.K. to a much closer relationship with the EU when Johnson’s deal is up for renewal, the Conservatives would leave Starmer and the Labour Party completely stymied. Regardless of the ongoing economic hit, problems in N Ireland and pointless red tape that is happening because of Brexit, polls after polls are suggesting that people think that Brexit was wrong. Today’s ITV youth poll indicated that 86% of our future butchers, bakers and candlestick makers would vote to join the EU. Joining the EU is not going to happen again anytime soon, but a Party that commits to a closer relationship as a means of normalising the economy, travel and N Ireland is surely going to win votes at the next election. (This is not about arguing whether Brexit was right or wrong, but how politically the two main parties have (so far) laid their stalls out regarding Brexit and the EU. Sunak hasn’t really said anything yet, whereas Starmer has stated categorically that there is no justification for further debate and the EU/Brexit case is closed. Sunak is out smarting SKS at every step and SKS is pressing the self destruct button at every opportunity. Labour are 16 points ahead in the polls
At the rate at which the U turns are being made by Keir Starmer we shall soon be in single figures.... "Get back to me when they are | |||
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"Next election will likely be a huge g parliament. We might then see bojo back " PMSL, Boris is finished | |||
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"If Rishi Sunak reads the room before the next election and commits the U.K. to a much closer relationship with the EU when Johnson’s deal is up for renewal, the Conservatives would leave Starmer and the Labour Party completely stymied. Regardless of the ongoing economic hit, problems in N Ireland and pointless red tape that is happening because of Brexit, polls after polls are suggesting that people think that Brexit was wrong. Today’s ITV youth poll indicated that 86% of our future butchers, bakers and candlestick makers would vote to join the EU. Joining the EU is not going to happen again anytime soon, but a Party that commits to a closer relationship as a means of normalising the economy, travel and N Ireland is surely going to win votes at the next election. (This is not about arguing whether Brexit was right or wrong, but how politically the two main parties have (so far) laid their stalls out regarding Brexit and the EU. Sunak hasn’t really said anything yet, whereas Starmer has stated categorically that there is no justification for further debate and the EU/Brexit case is closed. Sunak is out smarting SKS at every step and SKS is pressing the self destruct button at every opportunity. Labour are 16 points ahead in the polls
There are no doubting the polls but looking at trends you can see the Tories narrowing and narrowing that gap.
That's not good for Labour.
Slightly, Sunak is a competent PM, but he is surrounded by shite and the economy has crashed, inflation at a 40 year high
Living standards at a 40 year low
Millions on strikes
Thousands of boat asylum seekers etc etc
Certain people will never vote for him because of what he did to Boris and because he is of Asian heritage , he will lose million of voters to reform.
Oh I still don't think the Tories will will the election but there's no doubt that the polls have only been going one way since Sunak was appointed PM"How could they get any worse for the tories after Truss? | |||
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"Next election will likely be a huge g parliament. We might then see bojo back " That is the worst post you have ever posted! Not as in a badly written post or anything. Just a batshit scary idea if it came true. God help us! | |||
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"If Rishi Sunak reads the room before the next election and commits the U.K. to a much closer relationship with the EU when Johnson’s deal is up for renewal, the Conservatives would leave Starmer and the Labour Party completely stymied. Regardless of the ongoing economic hit, problems in N Ireland and pointless red tape that is happening because of Brexit, polls after polls are suggesting that people think that Brexit was wrong. Today’s ITV youth poll indicated that 86% of our future butchers, bakers and candlestick makers would vote to join the EU. Joining the EU is not going to happen again anytime soon, but a Party that commits to a closer relationship as a means of normalising the economy, travel and N Ireland is surely going to win votes at the next election. (This is not about arguing whether Brexit was right or wrong, but how politically the two main parties have (so far) laid their stalls out regarding Brexit and the EU. Sunak hasn’t really said anything yet, whereas Starmer has stated categorically that there is no justification for further debate and the EU/Brexit case is closed. Sunak is out smarting SKS at every step and SKS is pressing the self destruct button at every opportunity. Labour are 16 points ahead in the polls "The polls will start to begin to reflect the u-turn on tuition fess amongst the 20 somethings, kick back against the smear campaigns, the Abbott effect, the general lacklustre leadership of SKS and his hardening of brexit... He can't read the room. As Morely mentioned I too can see a hobbled together government that will create even more damage to the nation than we have right now. | |||
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"If Rishi Sunak reads the room before the next election and commits the U.K. to a much closer relationship with the EU when Johnson’s deal is up for renewal, the Conservatives would leave Starmer and the Labour Party completely stymied. Regardless of the ongoing economic hit, problems in N Ireland and pointless red tape that is happening because of Brexit, polls after polls are suggesting that people think that Brexit was wrong. Today’s ITV youth poll indicated that 86% of our future butchers, bakers and candlestick makers would vote to join the EU. Joining the EU is not going to happen again anytime soon, but a Party that commits to a closer relationship as a means of normalising the economy, travel and N Ireland is surely going to win votes at the next election. (This is not about arguing whether Brexit was right or wrong, but how politically the two main parties have (so far) laid their stalls out regarding Brexit and the EU. Sunak hasn’t really said anything yet, whereas Starmer has stated categorically that there is no justification for further debate and the EU/Brexit case is closed." When you say a closer relationship with the EU what does that mean. Are you meaning joining the EEA or similar? From what I see Sunak already has improved the relationship with the EU from previously. SKS has ruled out rejoining the EU and even the EEA ect. Having said that he may uturn on that once in office | |||
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"If Rishi Sunak reads the room before the next election and commits the U.K. to a much closer relationship with the EU when Johnson’s deal is up for renewal, the Conservatives would leave Starmer and the Labour Party completely stymied. Regardless of the ongoing economic hit, problems in N Ireland and pointless red tape that is happening because of Brexit, polls after polls are suggesting that people think that Brexit was wrong. Today’s ITV youth poll indicated that 86% of our future butchers, bakers and candlestick makers would vote to join the EU. Joining the EU is not going to happen again anytime soon, but a Party that commits to a closer relationship as a means of normalising the economy, travel and N Ireland is surely going to win votes at the next election. (This is not about arguing whether Brexit was right or wrong, but how politically the two main parties have (so far) laid their stalls out regarding Brexit and the EU. Sunak hasn’t really said anything yet, whereas Starmer has stated categorically that there is no justification for further debate and the EU/Brexit case is closed. Sunak is out smarting SKS at every step and SKS is pressing the self destruct button at every opportunity. Labour are 16 points ahead in the polls
The polls will start to begin to reflect the u-turn on tuition fess amongst the 20 somethings, kick back against the smear campaigns, the Abbott effect, the general lacklustre leadership of SKS and his hardening of brexit... He can't read the room.
As Morely mentioned I too can see a hobbled together government that will create even more damage to the nation than we have right now.
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"If Rishi Sunak reads the room before the next election and commits the U.K. to a much closer relationship with the EU when Johnson’s deal is up for renewal, the Conservatives would leave Starmer and the Labour Party completely stymied. Regardless of the ongoing economic hit, problems in N Ireland and pointless red tape that is happening because of Brexit, polls after polls are suggesting that people think that Brexit was wrong. Today’s ITV youth poll indicated that 86% of our future butchers, bakers and candlestick makers would vote to join the EU. Joining the EU is not going to happen again anytime soon, but a Party that commits to a closer relationship as a means of normalising the economy, travel and N Ireland is surely going to win votes at the next election. (This is not about arguing whether Brexit was right or wrong, but how politically the two main parties have (so far) laid their stalls out regarding Brexit and the EU. Sunak hasn’t really said anything yet, whereas Starmer has stated categorically that there is no justification for further debate and the EU/Brexit case is closed. Sunak is out smarting SKS at every step and SKS is pressing the self destruct button at every opportunity. Labour are 16 points ahead in the polls
The polls will start to begin to reflect the u-turn on tuition fess amongst the 20 somethings, kick back against the smear campaigns, the Abbott effect, the general lacklustre leadership of SKS and his hardening of brexit... He can't read the room.
As Morely mentioned I too can see a hobbled together government that will create even more damage to the nation than we have right now.
Students won’t be voting for the tories "Some will, many wont and some that did vote labour wont be voting labour after the last u-turn | |||
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"If Rishi Sunak reads the room before the next election and commits the U.K. to a much closer relationship with the EU when Johnson’s deal is up for renewal, the Conservatives would leave Starmer and the Labour Party completely stymied. Regardless of the ongoing economic hit, problems in N Ireland and pointless red tape that is happening because of Brexit, polls after polls are suggesting that people think that Brexit was wrong. Today’s ITV youth poll indicated that 86% of our future butchers, bakers and candlestick makers would vote to join the EU. Joining the EU is not going to happen again anytime soon, but a Party that commits to a closer relationship as a means of normalising the economy, travel and N Ireland is surely going to win votes at the next election. (This is not about arguing whether Brexit was right or wrong, but how politically the two main parties have (so far) laid their stalls out regarding Brexit and the EU. Sunak hasn’t really said anything yet, whereas Starmer has stated categorically that there is no justification for further debate and the EU/Brexit case is closed. Sunak is out smarting SKS at every step and SKS is pressing the self destruct button at every opportunity. Labour are 16 points ahead in the polls
The polls will start to begin to reflect the u-turn on tuition fess amongst the 20 somethings, kick back against the smear campaigns, the Abbott effect, the general lacklustre leadership of SKS and his hardening of brexit... He can't read the room.
As Morely mentioned I too can see a hobbled together government that will create even more damage to the nation than we have right now.
Students won’t be voting for the tories
Some will, many wont and some that did vote labour wont be voting labour after the last u-turn "Why? Have the tories now promised to scrap tuition fees? | |||
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"If Rishi Sunak reads the room before the next election and commits the U.K. to a much closer relationship with the EU when Johnson’s deal is up for renewal, the Conservatives would leave Starmer and the Labour Party completely stymied. Regardless of the ongoing economic hit, problems in N Ireland and pointless red tape that is happening because of Brexit, polls after polls are suggesting that people think that Brexit was wrong. Today’s ITV youth poll indicated that 86% of our future butchers, bakers and candlestick makers would vote to join the EU. Joining the EU is not going to happen again anytime soon, but a Party that commits to a closer relationship as a means of normalising the economy, travel and N Ireland is surely going to win votes at the next election. (This is not about arguing whether Brexit was right or wrong, but how politically the two main parties have (so far) laid their stalls out regarding Brexit and the EU. Sunak hasn’t really said anything yet, whereas Starmer has stated categorically that there is no justification for further debate and the EU/Brexit case is closed. Sunak is out smarting SKS at every step and SKS is pressing the self destruct button at every opportunity. Labour are 16 points ahead in the polls
The polls will start to begin to reflect the u-turn on tuition fess amongst the 20 somethings, kick back against the smear campaigns, the Abbott effect, the general lacklustre leadership of SKS and his hardening of brexit... He can't read the room.
As Morely mentioned I too can see a hobbled together government that will create even more damage to the nation than we have right now.
Students won’t be voting for the tories
Some will, many wont and some that did vote labour wont be voting labour after the last u-turn
Why? Have the tories now promised to scrap tuition fees? "Because some students do vote conservative, some did vote labour and wont be now | |||
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"If Rishi Sunak reads the room before the next election and commits the U.K. to a much closer relationship with the EU when Johnson’s deal is up for renewal, the Conservatives would leave Starmer and the Labour Party completely stymied. Regardless of the ongoing economic hit, problems in N Ireland and pointless red tape that is happening because of Brexit, polls after polls are suggesting that people think that Brexit was wrong. Today’s ITV youth poll indicated that 86% of our future butchers, bakers and candlestick makers would vote to join the EU. Joining the EU is not going to happen again anytime soon, but a Party that commits to a closer relationship as a means of normalising the economy, travel and N Ireland is surely going to win votes at the next election. (This is not about arguing whether Brexit was right or wrong, but how politically the two main parties have (so far) laid their stalls out regarding Brexit and the EU. Sunak hasn’t really said anything yet, whereas Starmer has stated categorically that there is no justification for further debate and the EU/Brexit case is closed. Sunak is out smarting SKS at every step and SKS is pressing the self destruct button at every opportunity. Labour are 16 points ahead in the polls
The polls will start to begin to reflect the u-turn on tuition fess amongst the 20 somethings, kick back against the smear campaigns, the Abbott effect, the general lacklustre leadership of SKS and his hardening of brexit... He can't read the room.
As Morely mentioned I too can see a hobbled together government that will create even more damage to the nation than we have right now.
Students won’t be voting for the tories
Some will, many wont and some that did vote labour wont be voting labour after the last u-turn
Why? Have the tories now promised to scrap tuition fees?
Because some students do vote conservative, some did vote labour and wont be now"Why? What are the tories offering students that labour aren’t? | |||
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"If Rishi Sunak reads the room before the next election and commits the U.K. to a much closer relationship with the EU when Johnson’s deal is up for renewal, the Conservatives would leave Starmer and the Labour Party completely stymied. Regardless of the ongoing economic hit, problems in N Ireland and pointless red tape that is happening because of Brexit, polls after polls are suggesting that people think that Brexit was wrong. Today’s ITV youth poll indicated that 86% of our future butchers, bakers and candlestick makers would vote to join the EU. Joining the EU is not going to happen again anytime soon, but a Party that commits to a closer relationship as a means of normalising the economy, travel and N Ireland is surely going to win votes at the next election. (This is not about arguing whether Brexit was right or wrong, but how politically the two main parties have (so far) laid their stalls out regarding Brexit and the EU. Sunak hasn’t really said anything yet, whereas Starmer has stated categorically that there is no justification for further debate and the EU/Brexit case is closed. Sunak is out smarting SKS at every step and SKS is pressing the self destruct button at every opportunity. Labour are 16 points ahead in the polls
The polls will start to begin to reflect the u-turn on tuition fess amongst the 20 somethings, kick back against the smear campaigns, the Abbott effect, the general lacklustre leadership of SKS and his hardening of brexit... He can't read the room.
As Morely mentioned I too can see a hobbled together government that will create even more damage to the nation than we have right now.
Students won’t be voting for the tories
Some will, many wont and some that did vote labour wont be voting labour after the last u-turn
Why? Have the tories now promised to scrap tuition fees?
Because some students do vote conservative, some did vote labour and wont be now
Why? What are the tories offering students that labour aren’t? "Strategic leadership and less broken pledges to start. | |||
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"If Rishi Sunak reads the room before the next election and commits the U.K. to a much closer relationship with the EU when Johnson’s deal is up for renewal, the Conservatives would leave Starmer and the Labour Party completely stymied. Regardless of the ongoing economic hit, problems in N Ireland and pointless red tape that is happening because of Brexit, polls after polls are suggesting that people think that Brexit was wrong. Today’s ITV youth poll indicated that 86% of our future butchers, bakers and candlestick makers would vote to join the EU. Joining the EU is not going to happen again anytime soon, but a Party that commits to a closer relationship as a means of normalising the economy, travel and N Ireland is surely going to win votes at the next election. (This is not about arguing whether Brexit was right or wrong, but how politically the two main parties have (so far) laid their stalls out regarding Brexit and the EU. Sunak hasn’t really said anything yet, whereas Starmer has stated categorically that there is no justification for further debate and the EU/Brexit case is closed. Sunak is out smarting SKS at every step and SKS is pressing the self destruct button at every opportunity. Labour are 16 points ahead in the polls
The polls will start to begin to reflect the u-turn on tuition fess amongst the 20 somethings, kick back against the smear campaigns, the Abbott effect, the general lacklustre leadership of SKS and his hardening of brexit... He can't read the room.
As Morely mentioned I too can see a hobbled together government that will create even more damage to the nation than we have right now.
Students won’t be voting for the tories
Some will, many wont and some that did vote labour wont be voting labour after the last u-turn
Why? Have the tories now promised to scrap tuition fees?
Because some students do vote conservative, some did vote labour and wont be now
Why? What are the tories offering students that labour aren’t?
Strategic leadership and less broken pledges to start."The tories have broke several pledges and made numerous U turns. If students main concern is students fees then they will vote for the Lib Dem’s | |||
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"If Rishi Sunak reads the room before the next election and commits the U.K. to a much closer relationship with the EU when Johnson’s deal is up for renewal, the Conservatives would leave Starmer and the Labour Party completely stymied. Regardless of the ongoing economic hit, problems in N Ireland and pointless red tape that is happening because of Brexit, polls after polls are suggesting that people think that Brexit was wrong. Today’s ITV youth poll indicated that 86% of our future butchers, bakers and candlestick makers would vote to join the EU. Joining the EU is not going to happen again anytime soon, but a Party that commits to a closer relationship as a means of normalising the economy, travel and N Ireland is surely going to win votes at the next election. (This is not about arguing whether Brexit was right or wrong, but how politically the two main parties have (so far) laid their stalls out regarding Brexit and the EU. Sunak hasn’t really said anything yet, whereas Starmer has stated categorically that there is no justification for further debate and the EU/Brexit case is closed. Sunak is out smarting SKS at every step and SKS is pressing the self destruct button at every opportunity. Labour are 16 points ahead in the polls
The polls will start to begin to reflect the u-turn on tuition fess amongst the 20 somethings, kick back against the smear campaigns, the Abbott effect, the general lacklustre leadership of SKS and his hardening of brexit... He can't read the room.
As Morely mentioned I too can see a hobbled together government that will create even more damage to the nation than we have right now.
Students won’t be voting for the tories
Some will, many wont and some that did vote labour wont be voting labour after the last u-turn
Why? Have the tories now promised to scrap tuition fees?
Because some students do vote conservative, some did vote labour and wont be now
Why? What are the tories offering students that labour aren’t?
Strategic leadership and less broken pledges to start.
The tories have broke several pledges and made numerous U turns. If students main concern is students fees then they will vote for the Lib Dem’s "I like how you speak for all students, it is a lot of responsibility you have, more than SKS who has broken every single pledge made, leaving nothing and I wait with eager anticipation for the labour manifesto, he has sunk so many of his own battle ships before a shot has been fired towards the GE..... | |||
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"If Rishi Sunak reads the room before the next election and commits the U.K. to a much closer relationship with the EU when Johnson’s deal is up for renewal, the Conservatives would leave Starmer and the Labour Party completely stymied. Regardless of the ongoing economic hit, problems in N Ireland and pointless red tape that is happening because of Brexit, polls after polls are suggesting that people think that Brexit was wrong. Today’s ITV youth poll indicated that 86% of our future butchers, bakers and candlestick makers would vote to join the EU. Joining the EU is not going to happen again anytime soon, but a Party that commits to a closer relationship as a means of normalising the economy, travel and N Ireland is surely going to win votes at the next election. (This is not about arguing whether Brexit was right or wrong, but how politically the two main parties have (so far) laid their stalls out regarding Brexit and the EU. Sunak hasn’t really said anything yet, whereas Starmer has stated categorically that there is no justification for further debate and the EU/Brexit case is closed. Sunak is out smarting SKS at every step and SKS is pressing the self destruct button at every opportunity. Labour are 16 points ahead in the polls
The polls will start to begin to reflect the u-turn on tuition fess amongst the 20 somethings, kick back against the smear campaigns, the Abbott effect, the general lacklustre leadership of SKS and his hardening of brexit... He can't read the room.
As Morely mentioned I too can see a hobbled together government that will create even more damage to the nation than we have right now.
Students won’t be voting for the tories
Some will, many wont and some that did vote labour wont be voting labour after the last u-turn
Why? Have the tories now promised to scrap tuition fees?
Because some students do vote conservative, some did vote labour and wont be now
Why? What are the tories offering students that labour aren’t?
Strategic leadership and less broken pledges to start.
The tories have broke several pledges and made numerous U turns. If students main concern is students fees then they will vote for the Lib Dem’s
I like how you speak for all students, it is a lot of responsibility you have, more than SKS who has broken every single pledge made, leaving nothing and I wait with eager anticipation for the labour manifesto, he has sunk so many of his own battle ships before a shot has been fired towards the GE.....
"You were the one who said they would ditch labour because of u turns and the tuition fees? Labour won’t win the next election, the tories will lose it | |||
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"Next election will likely be a huge g parliament. We might then see bojo back " You don't go from a big majority to a hung parliament in one election without something radical Starmer hasn't an original thought in his head , he's not the man for the job Tories will still get back in. I can't even see their majority being reduced by much | |||
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"Next election will likely be a huge g parliament. We might then see bojo back You don't go from a big majority to a hung parliament in one election without something radical Starmer hasn't an original thought in his head , he's not the man for the job Tories will still get back in. I can't even see their majority being reduced by much " What are you basing that on? | |||
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"If Rishi Sunak reads the room before the next election and commits the U.K. to a much closer relationship with the EU when Johnson’s deal is up for renewal, the Conservatives would leave Starmer and the Labour Party completely stymied. Regardless of the ongoing economic hit, problems in N Ireland and pointless red tape that is happening because of Brexit, polls after polls are suggesting that people think that Brexit was wrong. Today’s ITV youth poll indicated that 86% of our future butchers, bakers and candlestick makers would vote to join the EU. Joining the EU is not going to happen again anytime soon, but a Party that commits to a closer relationship as a means of normalising the economy, travel and N Ireland is surely going to win votes at the next election. (This is not about arguing whether Brexit was right or wrong, but how politically the two main parties have (so far) laid their stalls out regarding Brexit and the EU. Sunak hasn’t really said anything yet, whereas Starmer has stated categorically that there is no justification for further debate and the EU/Brexit case is closed. Sunak is out smarting SKS at every step and SKS is pressing the self destruct button at every opportunity. Labour are 16 points ahead in the polls
The polls will start to begin to reflect the u-turn on tuition fess amongst the 20 somethings, kick back against the smear campaigns, the Abbott effect, the general lacklustre leadership of SKS and his hardening of brexit... He can't read the room.
As Morely mentioned I too can see a hobbled together government that will create even more damage to the nation than we have right now.
Students won’t be voting for the tories
Some will, many wont and some that did vote labour wont be voting labour after the last u-turn
Why? Have the tories now promised to scrap tuition fees?
Because some students do vote conservative, some did vote labour and wont be now
Why? What are the tories offering students that labour aren’t?
Strategic leadership and less broken pledges to start.
The tories have broke several pledges and made numerous U turns. If students main concern is students fees then they will vote for the Lib Dem’s
I like how you speak for all students, it is a lot of responsibility you have, more than SKS who has broken every single pledge made, leaving nothing and I wait with eager anticipation for the labour manifesto, he has sunk so many of his own battle ships before a shot has been fired towards the GE.....
You were the one who said they would ditch labour because of u turns and the tuition fees? Labour won’t win the next election, the tories will lose it "Mmm I’m struggling to understand your response, can you spell it out for me because after reading it several times I can’t workout what you are saying. Do you have an example or detail that could help me? | |||
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"If Rishi Sunak reads the room before the next election and commits the U.K. to a much closer relationship with the EU when Johnson’s deal is up for renewal, the Conservatives would leave Starmer and the Labour Party completely stymied. Regardless of the ongoing economic hit, problems in N Ireland and pointless red tape that is happening because of Brexit, polls after polls are suggesting that people think that Brexit was wrong. Today’s ITV youth poll indicated that 86% of our future butchers, bakers and candlestick makers would vote to join the EU. Joining the EU is not going to happen again anytime soon, but a Party that commits to a closer relationship as a means of normalising the economy, travel and N Ireland is surely going to win votes at the next election. (This is not about arguing whether Brexit was right or wrong, but how politically the two main parties have (so far) laid their stalls out regarding Brexit and the EU. Sunak hasn’t really said anything yet, whereas Starmer has stated categorically that there is no justification for further debate and the EU/Brexit case is closed. Sunak is out smarting SKS at every step and SKS is pressing the self destruct button at every opportunity. Labour are 16 points ahead in the polls
The polls will start to begin to reflect the u-turn on tuition fess amongst the 20 somethings, kick back against the smear campaigns, the Abbott effect, the general lacklustre leadership of SKS and his hardening of brexit... He can't read the room.
As Morely mentioned I too can see a hobbled together government that will create even more damage to the nation than we have right now.
Students won’t be voting for the tories
Some will, many wont and some that did vote labour wont be voting labour after the last u-turn
Why? Have the tories now promised to scrap tuition fees?
Because some students do vote conservative, some did vote labour and wont be now
Why? What are the tories offering students that labour aren’t?
Strategic leadership and less broken pledges to start.
The tories have broke several pledges and made numerous U turns. If students main concern is students fees then they will vote for the Lib Dem’s
I like how you speak for all students, it is a lot of responsibility you have, more than SKS who has broken every single pledge made, leaving nothing and I wait with eager anticipation for the labour manifesto, he has sunk so many of his own battle ships before a shot has been fired towards the GE.....
You were the one who said they would ditch labour because of u turns and the tuition fees? Labour won’t win the next election, the tories will lose it
Mmm I’m struggling to understand your response, can you spell it out for me because after reading it several times I can’t workout what you are saying. Do you have an example or detail that could help me?"You keep stating that not scrapping the tuition fees and SKS u turns will hamper labour, the tories aren’t cropping tuition fees either and have made numerous U turns, so can you explain why students will now ditch labour for the tories | |||
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"If Rishi Sunak reads the room before the next election and commits the U.K. to a much closer relationship with the EU when Johnson’s deal is up for renewal, the Conservatives would leave Starmer and the Labour Party completely stymied. Regardless of the ongoing economic hit, problems in N Ireland and pointless red tape that is happening because of Brexit, polls after polls are suggesting that people think that Brexit was wrong. Today’s ITV youth poll indicated that 86% of our future butchers, bakers and candlestick makers would vote to join the EU. Joining the EU is not going to happen again anytime soon, but a Party that commits to a closer relationship as a means of normalising the economy, travel and N Ireland is surely going to win votes at the next election. (This is not about arguing whether Brexit was right or wrong, but how politically the two main parties have (so far) laid their stalls out regarding Brexit and the EU. Sunak hasn’t really said anything yet, whereas Starmer has stated categorically that there is no justification for further debate and the EU/Brexit case is closed. Sunak is out smarting SKS at every step and SKS is pressing the self destruct button at every opportunity. Labour are 16 points ahead in the polls
The polls will start to begin to reflect the u-turn on tuition fess amongst the 20 somethings, kick back against the smear campaigns, the Abbott effect, the general lacklustre leadership of SKS and his hardening of brexit... He can't read the room.
As Morely mentioned I too can see a hobbled together government that will create even more damage to the nation than we have right now.
Students won’t be voting for the tories
Some will, many wont and some that did vote labour wont be voting labour after the last u-turn
Why? Have the tories now promised to scrap tuition fees?
Because some students do vote conservative, some did vote labour and wont be now
Why? What are the tories offering students that labour aren’t?
Strategic leadership and less broken pledges to start.
The tories have broke several pledges and made numerous U turns. If students main concern is students fees then they will vote for the Lib Dem’s
I like how you speak for all students, it is a lot of responsibility you have, more than SKS who has broken every single pledge made, leaving nothing and I wait with eager anticipation for the labour manifesto, he has sunk so many of his own battle ships before a shot has been fired towards the GE.....
You were the one who said they would ditch labour because of u turns and the tuition fees? Labour won’t win the next election, the tories will lose it
Mmm I’m struggling to understand your response, can you spell it out for me because after reading it several times I can’t workout what you are saying. Do you have an example or detail that could help me?
You keep stating that not scrapping the tuition fees and SKS u turns will hamper labour, the tories aren’t cropping tuition fees either and have made numerous U turns, so can you explain why students will now ditch labour for the tories "If I understand Notme, he is stating that: In 2019 a lot of students would have voted for Labour because of the promise of 'free everything', something which SKS held onto when he took the mantle. Now that they are not promising 'free anything', those same people will revert to Tories. Why, you ask? Because Sunak isn't flip flopping every 5 mins with promises. That's how I'm reading it anyway. | |||
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"If Rishi Sunak reads the room before the next election and commits the U.K. to a much closer relationship with the EU when Johnson’s deal is up for renewal, the Conservatives would leave Starmer and the Labour Party completely stymied. Regardless of the ongoing economic hit, problems in N Ireland and pointless red tape that is happening because of Brexit, polls after polls are suggesting that people think that Brexit was wrong. Today’s ITV youth poll indicated that 86% of our future butchers, bakers and candlestick makers would vote to join the EU. Joining the EU is not going to happen again anytime soon, but a Party that commits to a closer relationship as a means of normalising the economy, travel and N Ireland is surely going to win votes at the next election. (This is not about arguing whether Brexit was right or wrong, but how politically the two main parties have (so far) laid their stalls out regarding Brexit and the EU. Sunak hasn’t really said anything yet, whereas Starmer has stated categorically that there is no justification for further debate and the EU/Brexit case is closed. Sunak is out smarting SKS at every step and SKS is pressing the self destruct button at every opportunity. Labour are 16 points ahead in the polls
The polls will start to begin to reflect the u-turn on tuition fess amongst the 20 somethings, kick back against the smear campaigns, the Abbott effect, the general lacklustre leadership of SKS and his hardening of brexit... He can't read the room.
As Morely mentioned I too can see a hobbled together government that will create even more damage to the nation than we have right now.
Students won’t be voting for the tories
Some will, many wont and some that did vote labour wont be voting labour after the last u-turn
Why? Have the tories now promised to scrap tuition fees?
Because some students do vote conservative, some did vote labour and wont be now
Why? What are the tories offering students that labour aren’t?
Strategic leadership and less broken pledges to start.
The tories have broke several pledges and made numerous U turns. If students main concern is students fees then they will vote for the Lib Dem’s
I like how you speak for all students, it is a lot of responsibility you have, more than SKS who has broken every single pledge made, leaving nothing and I wait with eager anticipation for the labour manifesto, he has sunk so many of his own battle ships before a shot has been fired towards the GE.....
You were the one who said they would ditch labour because of u turns and the tuition fees? Labour won’t win the next election, the tories will lose it
Mmm I’m struggling to understand your response, can you spell it out for me because after reading it several times I can’t workout what you are saying. Do you have an example or detail that could help me?
You keep stating that not scrapping the tuition fees and SKS u turns will hamper labour, the tories aren’t cropping tuition fees either and have made numerous U turns, so can you explain why students will now ditch labour for the tories "Thanks, I would never have got that! I didn’t say all, I said some and some will not vote after being let down and students are a sure vote. His blundering is cutting away at those that vote labour. You said labour don’t need to win the tories will lose it…. In my opinion you are 180 degrees out, I can only imagine when it comes to the GE the tories will have gained too much ground on the landslide win expected, through no effort, gifted. | |||
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"If Rishi Sunak reads the room before the next election and commits the U.K. to a much closer relationship with the EU when Johnson’s deal is up for renewal, the Conservatives would leave Starmer and the Labour Party completely stymied. Regardless of the ongoing economic hit, problems in N Ireland and pointless red tape that is happening because of Brexit, polls after polls are suggesting that people think that Brexit was wrong. Today’s ITV youth poll indicated that 86% of our future butchers, bakers and candlestick makers would vote to join the EU. Joining the EU is not going to happen again anytime soon, but a Party that commits to a closer relationship as a means of normalising the economy, travel and N Ireland is surely going to win votes at the next election. (This is not about arguing whether Brexit was right or wrong, but how politically the two main parties have (so far) laid their stalls out regarding Brexit and the EU. Sunak hasn’t really said anything yet, whereas Starmer has stated categorically that there is no justification for further debate and the EU/Brexit case is closed. Sunak is out smarting SKS at every step and SKS is pressing the self destruct button at every opportunity. Labour are 16 points ahead in the polls
The polls will start to begin to reflect the u-turn on tuition fess amongst the 20 somethings, kick back against the smear campaigns, the Abbott effect, the general lacklustre leadership of SKS and his hardening of brexit... He can't read the room.
As Morely mentioned I too can see a hobbled together government that will create even more damage to the nation than we have right now.
Students won’t be voting for the tories
Some will, many wont and some that did vote labour wont be voting labour after the last u-turn
Why? Have the tories now promised to scrap tuition fees?
Because some students do vote conservative, some did vote labour and wont be now
Why? What are the tories offering students that labour aren’t?
Strategic leadership and less broken pledges to start.
The tories have broke several pledges and made numerous U turns. If students main concern is students fees then they will vote for the Lib Dem’s
I like how you speak for all students, it is a lot of responsibility you have, more than SKS who has broken every single pledge made, leaving nothing and I wait with eager anticipation for the labour manifesto, he has sunk so many of his own battle ships before a shot has been fired towards the GE.....
You were the one who said they would ditch labour because of u turns and the tuition fees? Labour won’t win the next election, the tories will lose it
Mmm I’m struggling to understand your response, can you spell it out for me because after reading it several times I can’t workout what you are saying. Do you have an example or detail that could help me?
You keep stating that not scrapping the tuition fees and SKS u turns will hamper labour, the tories aren’t cropping tuition fees either and have made numerous U turns, so can you explain why students will now ditch labour for the tories
If I understand Notme, he is stating that:
In 2019 a lot of students would have voted for Labour because of the promise of 'free everything', something which SKS held onto when he took the mantle.
Now that they are not promising 'free anything', those same people will revert to Tories.
Why, you ask? Because Sunak isn't flip flopping every 5 mins with promises.
That's how I'm reading it anyway."
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"If Rishi Sunak reads the room before the next election and commits the U.K. to a much closer relationship with the EU when Johnson’s deal is up for renewal, the Conservatives would leave Starmer and the Labour Party completely stymied. Regardless of the ongoing economic hit, problems in N Ireland and pointless red tape that is happening because of Brexit, polls after polls are suggesting that people think that Brexit was wrong. Today’s ITV youth poll indicated that 86% of our future butchers, bakers and candlestick makers would vote to join the EU. Joining the EU is not going to happen again anytime soon, but a Party that commits to a closer relationship as a means of normalising the economy, travel and N Ireland is surely going to win votes at the next election. (This is not about arguing whether Brexit was right or wrong, but how politically the two main parties have (so far) laid their stalls out regarding Brexit and the EU. Sunak hasn’t really said anything yet, whereas Starmer has stated categorically that there is no justification for further debate and the EU/Brexit case is closed. Sunak is out smarting SKS at every step and SKS is pressing the self destruct button at every opportunity. Labour are 16 points ahead in the polls
The polls will start to begin to reflect the u-turn on tuition fess amongst the 20 somethings, kick back against the smear campaigns, the Abbott effect, the general lacklustre leadership of SKS and his hardening of brexit... He can't read the room.
As Morely mentioned I too can see a hobbled together government that will create even more damage to the nation than we have right now.
Students won’t be voting for the tories
Some will, many wont and some that did vote labour wont be voting labour after the last u-turn
Why? Have the tories now promised to scrap tuition fees?
Because some students do vote conservative, some did vote labour and wont be now
Why? What are the tories offering students that labour aren’t?
Strategic leadership and less broken pledges to start.
The tories have broke several pledges and made numerous U turns. If students main concern is students fees then they will vote for the Lib Dem’s
I like how you speak for all students, it is a lot of responsibility you have, more than SKS who has broken every single pledge made, leaving nothing and I wait with eager anticipation for the labour manifesto, he has sunk so many of his own battle ships before a shot has been fired towards the GE.....
You were the one who said they would ditch labour because of u turns and the tuition fees? Labour won’t win the next election, the tories will lose it
Mmm I’m struggling to understand your response, can you spell it out for me because after reading it several times I can’t workout what you are saying. Do you have an example or detail that could help me?
You keep stating that not scrapping the tuition fees and SKS u turns will hamper labour, the tories aren’t cropping tuition fees either and have made numerous U turns, so can you explain why students will now ditch labour for the tories
If I understand Notme, he is stating that:
In 2019 a lot of students would have voted for Labour because of the promise of 'free everything', something which SKS held onto when he took the mantle.
Now that they are not promising 'free anything', those same people will revert to Tories.
Why, you ask? Because Sunak isn't flip flopping every 5 mins with promises.
That's how I'm reading it anyway.
Although I would expert a lot more student labour votes to go to greens, libs etc. "Fair point. I was close 
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"If Rishi Sunak reads the room before the next election and commits the U.K. to a much closer relationship with the EU when Johnson’s deal is up for renewal, the Conservatives would leave Starmer and the Labour Party completely stymied. Regardless of the ongoing economic hit, problems in N Ireland and pointless red tape that is happening because of Brexit, polls after polls are suggesting that people think that Brexit was wrong. Today’s ITV youth poll indicated that 86% of our future butchers, bakers and candlestick makers would vote to join the EU. Joining the EU is not going to happen again anytime soon, but a Party that commits to a closer relationship as a means of normalising the economy, travel and N Ireland is surely going to win votes at the next election. (This is not about arguing whether Brexit was right or wrong, but how politically the two main parties have (so far) laid their stalls out regarding Brexit and the EU. Sunak hasn’t really said anything yet, whereas Starmer has stated categorically that there is no justification for further debate and the EU/Brexit case is closed. Sunak is out smarting SKS at every step and SKS is pressing the self destruct button at every opportunity. Labour are 16 points ahead in the polls
The polls will start to begin to reflect the u-turn on tuition fess amongst the 20 somethings, kick back against the smear campaigns, the Abbott effect, the general lacklustre leadership of SKS and his hardening of brexit... He can't read the room.
As Morely mentioned I too can see a hobbled together government that will create even more damage to the nation than we have right now.
Students won’t be voting for the tories
Some will, many wont and some that did vote labour wont be voting labour after the last u-turn
Why? Have the tories now promised to scrap tuition fees?
Because some students do vote conservative, some did vote labour and wont be now
Why? What are the tories offering students that labour aren’t?
Strategic leadership and less broken pledges to start.
The tories have broke several pledges and made numerous U turns. If students main concern is students fees then they will vote for the Lib Dem’s
I like how you speak for all students, it is a lot of responsibility you have, more than SKS who has broken every single pledge made, leaving nothing and I wait with eager anticipation for the labour manifesto, he has sunk so many of his own battle ships before a shot has been fired towards the GE.....
You were the one who said they would ditch labour because of u turns and the tuition fees? Labour won’t win the next election, the tories will lose it
Mmm I’m struggling to understand your response, can you spell it out for me because after reading it several times I can’t workout what you are saying. Do you have an example or detail that could help me?
You keep stating that not scrapping the tuition fees and SKS u turns will hamper labour, the tories aren’t cropping tuition fees either and have made numerous U turns, so can you explain why students will now ditch labour for the tories
If I understand Notme, he is stating that:
In 2019 a lot of students would have voted for Labour because of the promise of 'free everything', something which SKS held onto when he took the mantle.
Now that they are not promising 'free anything', those same people will revert to Tories.
Why, you ask? Because Sunak isn't flip flopping every 5 mins with promises.
That's how I'm reading it anyway.
Although I would expert a lot more student labour votes to go to greens, libs etc.
Fair point. I was close
If that is the case, may we see a coalition?"I can see that course being taken if SKS can’t pull something together for the GE and stop own goals until the GE. I can’t wait to see what the Labour Party are going to put in their manifesto, their big hitters are already dead and buried | |||
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"If Rishi Sunak reads the room before the next election and commits the U.K. to a much closer relationship with the EU when Johnson’s deal is up for renewal, the Conservatives would leave Starmer and the Labour Party completely stymied. Regardless of the ongoing economic hit, problems in N Ireland and pointless red tape that is happening because of Brexit, polls after polls are suggesting that people think that Brexit was wrong. Today’s ITV youth poll indicated that 86% of our future butchers, bakers and candlestick makers would vote to join the EU. Joining the EU is not going to happen again anytime soon, but a Party that commits to a closer relationship as a means of normalising the economy, travel and N Ireland is surely going to win votes at the next election. (This is not about arguing whether Brexit was right or wrong, but how politically the two main parties have (so far) laid their stalls out regarding Brexit and the EU. Sunak hasn’t really said anything yet, whereas Starmer has stated categorically that there is no justification for further debate and the EU/Brexit case is closed. Sunak is out smarting SKS at every step and SKS is pressing the self destruct button at every opportunity. Labour are 16 points ahead in the polls
The polls will start to begin to reflect the u-turn on tuition fess amongst the 20 somethings, kick back against the smear campaigns, the Abbott effect, the general lacklustre leadership of SKS and his hardening of brexit... He can't read the room.
As Morely mentioned I too can see a hobbled together government that will create even more damage to the nation than we have right now.
Students won’t be voting for the tories
Some will, many wont and some that did vote labour wont be voting labour after the last u-turn
Why? Have the tories now promised to scrap tuition fees?
Because some students do vote conservative, some did vote labour and wont be now
Why? What are the tories offering students that labour aren’t?
Strategic leadership and less broken pledges to start.
The tories have broke several pledges and made numerous U turns. If students main concern is students fees then they will vote for the Lib Dem’s
I like how you speak for all students, it is a lot of responsibility you have, more than SKS who has broken every single pledge made, leaving nothing and I wait with eager anticipation for the labour manifesto, he has sunk so many of his own battle ships before a shot has been fired towards the GE.....
You were the one who said they would ditch labour because of u turns and the tuition fees? Labour won’t win the next election, the tories will lose it
Mmm I’m struggling to understand your response, can you spell it out for me because after reading it several times I can’t workout what you are saying. Do you have an example or detail that could help me?
You keep stating that not scrapping the tuition fees and SKS u turns will hamper labour, the tories aren’t cropping tuition fees either and have made numerous U turns, so can you explain why students will now ditch labour for the tories
If I understand Notme, he is stating that:
In 2019 a lot of students would have voted for Labour because of the promise of 'free everything', something which SKS held onto when he took the mantle.
Now that they are not promising 'free anything', those same people will revert to Tories.
Why, you ask? Because Sunak isn't flip flopping every 5 mins with promises.
That's how I'm reading it anyway.
Although I would expert a lot more student labour votes to go to greens, libs etc.
Fair point. I was close
If that is the case, may we see a coalition?
I can see that course being taken if SKS can’t pull something together for the GE and stop own goals until the GE.
I can’t wait to see what the Labour Party are going to put in their manifesto, their big hitters are already dead and buried"I'm sure they have something up their sleeves. Tbh, I've been seeing Labour winning the next GE for about 2 years but it's certainly getting tighter recently | |||
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"If Rishi Sunak reads the room before the next election and commits the U.K. to a much closer relationship with the EU when Johnson’s deal is up for renewal, the Conservatives would leave Starmer and the Labour Party completely stymied. Regardless of the ongoing economic hit, problems in N Ireland and pointless red tape that is happening because of Brexit, polls after polls are suggesting that people think that Brexit was wrong. Today’s ITV youth poll indicated that 86% of our future butchers, bakers and candlestick makers would vote to join the EU. Joining the EU is not going to happen again anytime soon, but a Party that commits to a closer relationship as a means of normalising the economy, travel and N Ireland is surely going to win votes at the next election. (This is not about arguing whether Brexit was right or wrong, but how politically the two main parties have (so far) laid their stalls out regarding Brexit and the EU. Sunak hasn’t really said anything yet, whereas Starmer has stated categorically that there is no justification for further debate and the EU/Brexit case is closed. Sunak is out smarting SKS at every step and SKS is pressing the self destruct button at every opportunity. Labour are 16 points ahead in the polls
The polls will start to begin to reflect the u-turn on tuition fess amongst the 20 somethings, kick back against the smear campaigns, the Abbott effect, the general lacklustre leadership of SKS and his hardening of brexit... He can't read the room.
As Morely mentioned I too can see a hobbled together government that will create even more damage to the nation than we have right now.
Students won’t be voting for the tories
Some will, many wont and some that did vote labour wont be voting labour after the last u-turn
Why? Have the tories now promised to scrap tuition fees?
Because some students do vote conservative, some did vote labour and wont be now
Why? What are the tories offering students that labour aren’t?
Strategic leadership and less broken pledges to start.
The tories have broke several pledges and made numerous U turns. If students main concern is students fees then they will vote for the Lib Dem’s
I like how you speak for all students, it is a lot of responsibility you have, more than SKS who has broken every single pledge made, leaving nothing and I wait with eager anticipation for the labour manifesto, he has sunk so many of his own battle ships before a shot has been fired towards the GE.....
You were the one who said they would ditch labour because of u turns and the tuition fees? Labour won’t win the next election, the tories will lose it
Mmm I’m struggling to understand your response, can you spell it out for me because after reading it several times I can’t workout what you are saying. Do you have an example or detail that could help me?
You keep stating that not scrapping the tuition fees and SKS u turns will hamper labour, the tories aren’t cropping tuition fees either and have made numerous U turns, so can you explain why students will now ditch labour for the tories
If I understand Notme, he is stating that:
In 2019 a lot of students would have voted for Labour because of the promise of 'free everything', something which SKS held onto when he took the mantle.
Now that they are not promising 'free anything', those same people will revert to Tories.
Why, you ask? Because Sunak isn't flip flopping every 5 mins with promises.
That's how I'm reading it anyway.
Although I would expert a lot more student labour votes to go to greens, libs etc.
Fair point. I was close
If that is the case, may we see a coalition?
I can see that course being taken if SKS can’t pull something together for the GE and stop own goals until the GE.
I can’t wait to see what the Labour Party are going to put in their manifesto, their big hitters are already dead and buried
I'm sure they have something up their sleeves.
Tbh, I've been seeing Labour winning the next GE for about 2 years but it's certainly getting tighter recently"I’m not so sure! I was hoping for a fresh start , a moment that would turn the tides…. I can’t see anything like that from labour they are a party without direction and that is shameful, it isn’t as though they haven’t had a years to workout a plan is it…. | |||
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"What are you reading that is keeping Brexit at the front of your mind? The local town here is Hanley is unrecognizable compared to a couple of years ago thanks to all the illegals. Can't let family up there without hubby to chaperone them. Then there's the cost of living and prices going up. What makes you think closer ties to the EU would solve those problems?" How many ‘illegals’ are living in Hanley? | |||
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"What are you reading that is keeping Brexit at the front of your mind? The local town here is Hanley is unrecognizable compared to a couple of years ago thanks to all the illegals. Can't let family up there without hubby to chaperone them. Then there's the cost of living and prices going up. What makes you think closer ties to the EU would solve those problems?" Why, what will your family do to the "illegals"? | |||
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"What are you reading that is keeping Brexit at the front of your mind? The local town here is Hanley is unrecognizable compared to a couple of years ago thanks to all the illegals. Can't let family up there without hubby to chaperone them. Then there's the cost of living and prices going up. What makes you think closer ties to the EU would solve those problems? How many ‘illegals’ are living in Hanley? " Nice attempt at discreditation/deflection. Speaking as someone from the area, who has lived the area many years, the demographics changed suddenly over a period of 12 months. Hmmmm, what could have caused that rapid change? Of course, if it isn't reported in the state affiliated media then it can't be true can it? | |||
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"What are you reading that is keeping Brexit at the front of your mind? The local town here is Hanley is unrecognizable compared to a couple of years ago thanks to all the illegals. Can't let family up there without hubby to chaperone them. Then there's the cost of living and prices going up. What makes you think closer ties to the EU would solve those problems? Why, what will your family do to the "illegals"?" Anyone hassles the wife and they get fucked over. Is that clear enough for you? | |||
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"Anyone hassles the wife and they get fucked over. Is that clear enough for you?" Yes that's very clear indeed. Thank you for telling us what sort of person you are. | |||
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"Anyone hassles the wife and they get fucked over. Is that clear enough for you? Yes that's very clear indeed. Thank you for telling us what sort of person you are." Let's be fair here, he has put it very eloquently but I'm pretty sure he has a large majority of the population that agrees with him | |||
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"Sorry to derail the thread. The point hubby was trying to make is that there are more pressing local concerns for people that affect their day to day lives and community. Brexit is history as far as most normal folk are concerned." brexit is history - is a patently false statement….whether you are normal or not | |||
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"Sorry to derail the thread. The point hubby was trying to make is that there are more pressing local concerns for people that affect their day to day lives and community. Brexit is history as far as most normal folk are concerned. brexit is history - is a patently false statement….whether you are normal or not" The only people I ever hear talk about Brexit are white middle class Remoaners who are still crying in their prams. | |||
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"What are you reading that is keeping Brexit at the front of your mind? The local town here is Hanley is unrecognizable compared to a couple of years ago thanks to all the illegals. Can't let family up there without hubby to chaperone them. Then there's the cost of living and prices going up. What makes you think closer ties to the EU would solve those problems? Why, what will your family do to the "illegals"? Anyone hassles the wife and they get fucked over. Is that clear enough for you?" What has that got to do with ‘illegals ‘? | |||
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"Sorry to derail the thread. The point hubby was trying to make is that there are more pressing local concerns for people that affect their day to day lives and community. Brexit is history as far as most normal folk are concerned. brexit is history - is a patently false statement….whether you are normal or not The only people I ever hear talk about Brexit are white middle class Remoaners who are still crying in their prams. " You’re talking about Brexit | |||
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"What are you reading that is keeping Brexit at the front of your mind? The local town here is Hanley is unrecognizable compared to a couple of years ago thanks to all the illegals. Can't let family up there without hubby to chaperone them. Then there's the cost of living and prices going up. What makes you think closer ties to the EU would solve those problems? How many ‘illegals’ are living in Hanley? Nice attempt at discreditation/deflection. Speaking as someone from the area, who has lived the area many years, the demographics changed suddenly over a period of 12 months. Hmmmm, what could have caused that rapid change? Of course, if it isn't reported in the state affiliated media then it can't be true can it?" Do you have a number? Maybe just an estimate or a wild guess? | |||
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"Do you have a number? Maybe just an estimate or a wild guess? " 42. | |||
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"Do you have a number? Maybe just an estimate or a wild guess? 42." Not many then? Less than 1% of the population of Hanley, how do you know when you see an ‘illegal’ do they wear a badge? | |||
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"What are you reading that is keeping Brexit at the front of your mind? The local town here is Hanley is unrecognizable compared to a couple of years ago thanks to all the illegals. Can't let family up there without hubby to chaperone them. Then there's the cost of living and prices going up. What makes you think closer ties to the EU would solve those problems? Why, what will your family do to the "illegals"? Anyone hassles the wife and they get fucked over. Is that clear enough for you?" Not really following you to be honest. | |||
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"Sorry to derail the thread. The point hubby was trying to make is that there are more pressing local concerns for people that affect their day to day lives and community. Brexit is history as far as most normal folk are concerned. brexit is history - is a patently false statement….whether you are normal or not The only people I ever hear talk about Brexit are white middle class Remoaners who are still crying in their prams. " This used to be bandied about a lot. Do you really think that people who voted leave don't understand how it's effecting the country, Is it really only "remoaners"? | |||
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"Some of the opinions on here are both scarily inaccurate and very close to fascism. More foreign people, less English people for me!" I'm confused with this post, are you not the same thing you are complaining about, or do you think it is okay to want the exclusion of a race (racism) as long as it is you doing the excluding? | |||
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"Sorry to derail the thread. The point hubby was trying to make is that there are more pressing local concerns for people that affect their day to day lives and community. Brexit is history as far as most normal folk are concerned. brexit is history - is a patently false statement….whether you are normal or not The only people I ever hear talk about Brexit are white middle class Remoaners who are still crying in their prams. This used to be bandied about a lot. Do you really think that people who voted leave don't understand how it's effecting the country, Is it really only "remoaners"?" Tbh, it has been statistically proven , on average that leave voters aren’t as well educated as remain voters , so it would explain their confusion | |||
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"Sorry to derail the thread. The point hubby was trying to make is that there are more pressing local concerns for people that affect their day to day lives and community. Brexit is history as far as most normal folk are concerned. brexit is history - is a patently false statement….whether you are normal or not The only people I ever hear talk about Brexit are white middle class Remoaners who are still crying in their prams. This used to be bandied about a lot. Do you really think that people who voted leave don't understand how it's effecting the country, Is it really only "remoaners"?" I'm just stating my personal experience that I only ever hear Brexit mentioned by white middle class Remoaners. I have never heard anyone in my personal friendship, work, or family groups mention Brexit who does not fit within those categories. | |||
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"Sorry to derail the thread. The point hubby was trying to make is that there are more pressing local concerns for people that affect their day to day lives and community. Brexit is history as far as most normal folk are concerned. brexit is history - is a patently false statement….whether you are normal or not The only people I ever hear talk about Brexit are white middle class Remoaners who are still crying in their prams. This used to be bandied about a lot. Do you really think that people who voted leave don't understand how it's effecting the country, Is it really only "remoaners"? Tbh, it has been statistically proven , on average that leave voters aren’t as well educated as remain voters , so it would explain their confusion " Who carried out this survey, please don't tell me it was CAMRA | |||
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"Sorry to derail the thread. The point hubby was trying to make is that there are more pressing local concerns for people that affect their day to day lives and community. Brexit is history as far as most normal folk are concerned. brexit is history - is a patently false statement….whether you are normal or not The only people I ever hear talk about Brexit are white middle class Remoaners who are still crying in their prams. This used to be bandied about a lot. Do you really think that people who voted leave don't understand how it's effecting the country, Is it really only "remoaners"? Tbh, it has been statistically proven , on average that leave voters aren’t as well educated as remain voters , so it would explain their confusion Who carried out this survey, please don't tell me it was CAMRA "University of Leicester | |||
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"Sorry to derail the thread. The point hubby was trying to make is that there are more pressing local concerns for people that affect their day to day lives and community. Brexit is history as far as most normal folk are concerned. brexit is history - is a patently false statement….whether you are normal or not The only people I ever hear talk about Brexit are white middle class Remoaners who are still crying in their prams. This used to be bandied about a lot. Do you really think that people who voted leave don't understand how it's effecting the country, Is it really only "remoaners"? Tbh, it has been statistically proven , on average that leave voters aren’t as well educated as remain voters , so it would explain their confusion Who carried out this survey, please don't tell me it was CAMRA
University of Leicester "Ah yes I forgot we are in the presence of one of the Ubermenschen. | |||
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"Sorry to derail the thread. The point hubby was trying to make is that there are more pressing local concerns for people that affect their day to day lives and community. Brexit is history as far as most normal folk are concerned. brexit is history - is a patently false statement….whether you are normal or not The only people I ever hear talk about Brexit are white middle class Remoaners who are still crying in their prams. This used to be bandied about a lot. Do you really think that people who voted leave don't understand how it's effecting the country, Is it really only "remoaners"? I'm just stating my personal experience that I only ever hear Brexit mentioned by white middle class Remoaners. I have never heard anyone in my personal friendship, work, or family groups mention Brexit who does not fit within those categories." You mix with "remoaners"? | |||
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"Sorry to derail the thread. The point hubby was trying to make is that there are more pressing local concerns for people that affect their day to day lives and community. Brexit is history as far as most normal folk are concerned. brexit is history - is a patently false statement….whether you are normal or not The only people I ever hear talk about Brexit are white middle class Remoaners who are still crying in their prams. This used to be bandied about a lot. Do you really think that people who voted leave don't understand how it's effecting the country, Is it really only "remoaners"? Tbh, it has been statistically proven , on average that leave voters aren’t as well educated as remain voters , so it would explain their confusion Who carried out this survey, please don't tell me it was CAMRA
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"Sorry to derail the thread. The point hubby was trying to make is that there are more pressing local concerns for people that affect their day to day lives and community. Brexit is history as far as most normal folk are concerned. brexit is history - is a patently false statement….whether you are normal or not The only people I ever hear talk about Brexit are white middle class Remoaners who are still crying in their prams. This used to be bandied about a lot. Do you really think that people who voted leave don't understand how it's effecting the country, Is it really only "remoaners"? I'm just stating my personal experience that I only ever hear Brexit mentioned by white middle class Remoaners. I have never heard anyone in my personal friendship, work, or family groups mention Brexit who does not fit within those categories. You mix with "remoaners"?" Not if I can avoid it. I generally find them to be Blob adhering dullards who have difficulty in locating a single original thought. | |||
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"Sorry to derail the thread. The point hubby was trying to make is that there are more pressing local concerns for people that affect their day to day lives and community. Brexit is history as far as most normal folk are concerned. brexit is history - is a patently false statement….whether you are normal or not The only people I ever hear talk about Brexit are white middle class Remoaners who are still crying in their prams. This used to be bandied about a lot. Do you really think that people who voted leave don't understand how it's effecting the country, Is it really only "remoaners"? I'm just stating my personal experience that I only ever hear Brexit mentioned by white middle class Remoaners. I have never heard anyone in my personal friendship, work, or family groups mention Brexit who does not fit within those categories. You mix with "remoaners"? Not if I can avoid it. I generally find them to be Blob adhering dullards who have difficulty in locating a single original thought." Tbh, you want find many remain voters in your local Wetherspoons | |||
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"If Rishi Sunak reads the room before the next election and commits the U.K. to a much closer relationship with the EU when Johnson’s deal is up for renewal, the Conservatives would leave Starmer and the Labour Party completely stymied. Regardless of the ongoing economic hit, problems in N Ireland and pointless red tape that is happening because of Brexit, polls after polls are suggesting that people think that Brexit was wrong. Today’s ITV youth poll indicated that 86% of our future butchers, bakers and candlestick makers would vote to join the EU. Joining the EU is not going to happen again anytime soon, but a Party that commits to a closer relationship as a means of normalising the economy, travel and N Ireland is surely going to win votes at the next election. (This is not about arguing whether Brexit was right or wrong, but how politically the two main parties have (so far) laid their stalls out regarding Brexit and the EU. Sunak hasn’t really said anything yet, whereas Starmer has stated categorically that there is no justification for further debate and the EU/Brexit case is closed. Sunak is out smarting SKS at every step and SKS is pressing the self destruct button at every opportunity. Labour are 16 points ahead in the polls
At the rate at which the U turns are being made by Keir Starmer we shall soon be in single figures.... "SKS and the Labour Party did well in local elections, what happened to Sunak and the tories ? | |||
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"Next election will likely be a huge g parliament. We might then see bojo back PMSL, Boris is finished "If you think so. I dont think all. He got enough votes to be in the leadership election but stood down | |||
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"SKS and the Labour Party did well in local elections ..." Did they? It was an open goal for them, they should have just been able to sit back, watch the Tories fail, and hoover up all those lovely votes. But the figures so far show that Labour are only getting about 60% of the seats that the Tories are losing. I think they were expecting to do much better than that. "... what happened to Sunak and the tories ?" Sunak wasn't standing, these are local elections. The Tories have lost about a third of their seats (so far). That's pretty awful, but again, I think they were expecting worse. | |||
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"SKS and the Labour Party did well in local elections ... Did they? It was an open goal for them, they should have just been able to sit back, watch the Tories fail, and hoover up all those lovely votes. But the figures so far show that Labour are only getting about 60% of the seats that the Tories are losing. I think they were expecting to do much better than that. ... what happened to Sunak and the tories ? Sunak wasn't standing, these are local elections. The Tories have lost about a third of their seats (so far). That's pretty awful, but again, I think they were expecting worse." We've seen this pattern before. It will be business as usual when the GE comes around. | |||
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"Next election will likely be a huge g parliament. We might then see bojo back That is the worst post you have ever posted! Not as in a badly written post or anything. Just a batshit scary idea if it came true. God help us! " Whether people on the opposite side liked him or bit he was popular and got derailed by sunak stabbing him in the back. | |||
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"SKS and the Labour Party did well in local elections ... Did they? It was an open goal for them, they should have just been able to sit back, watch the Tories fail, and hoover up all those lovely votes. But the figures so far show that Labour are only getting about 60% of the seats that the Tories are losing. I think they were expecting to do much better than that. ... what happened to Sunak and the tories ? Sunak wasn't standing, these are local elections. The Tories have lost about a third of their seats (so far). That's pretty awful, but again, I think they were expecting worse." Well that is some type of spin…. Let’s call it what it is… the tories are bleeding supporter all over the place… to the Lib Dems in the south and to labour in the north …. The interesting issue is going to be that the Lib Dem’s have done really well in places that just happen to have some of the bigger beasts in the Tory party… rabb, gove, Teresa may … I am going to make a prediction, I don’t think any of those run as mps at the next election… I don’t think boris runs either!!! Any of those don’t want to risk being the portillo moment next year! | |||
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If you think so.
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He got enough votes to be in the leadership election but stood down"To be the leader you have to be a mp… I don’t think boris wins his own constituency!! Unless they are going to try and parachute him in somewhere else.. | |||
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"Next election will likely be a huge g parliament. We might then see bojo back That is the worst post you have ever posted! Not as in a badly written post or anything. Just a batshit scary idea if it came true. God help us! Whether people on the opposite side liked him or bit he was popular and got derailed by sunak stabbing him in the back. " PMSL, he was useless and got sacked for being a lying wanker | |||
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"SKS and the Labour Party did well in local elections ... Did they? It was an open goal for them, they should have just been able to sit back, watch the Tories fail, and hoover up all those lovely votes. But the figures so far show that Labour are only getting about 60% of the seats that the Tories are losing. I think they were expecting to do much better than that. ... what happened to Sunak and the tories ? Sunak wasn't standing, these are local elections. The Tories have lost about a third of their seats (so far). That's pretty awful, but again, I think they were expecting worse." Labour did far better than the tories, SKS is the labour leader, Sunak is the Tory leader, I am sure you can work out the rest | |||
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"This is result the tories and their voters expected in losses. But I would be worried if I were labour I didn't make more gains. Liv dems are the protest vote and have 3/4 of the same gains. But we all know that won't transition come election time Starmer will really have to stop his back tracking and start promising some election intentions" The tories are finished, I couldn’t care less if it’s labour or labour & Lib Dem coalition who win the next election, it won’t be the tories | |||
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"This is result the tories and their voters expected in losses. But I would be worried if I were labour I didn't make more gains. Liv dems are the protest vote and have 3/4 of the same gains. But we all know that won't transition come election time Starmer will really have to stop his back tracking and start promising some election intentions The tories are finished, I couldn’t care less if it’s labour or labour & Lib Dem coalition who win the next election, it won’t be the tories "I agree with the other guy. Things will look different when the well funded Tory PR propaganda machine kicks into gear for the GE. | |||
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"This is result the tories and their voters expected in losses. But I would be worried if I were labour I didn't make more gains. Liv dems are the protest vote and have 3/4 of the same gains. But we all know that won't transition come election time Starmer will really have to stop his back tracking and start promising some election intentions The tories are finished, I couldn’t care less if it’s labour or labour & Lib Dem coalition who win the next election, it won’t be the tories
I agree with the other guy. Things will look different when the well funded Tory PR propaganda machine kicks into gear for the GE."It won’t work this time, they don’t have as much to beat SKS with as they did with Corbyn and Milliband and Sunak isn’t their chosen leader (they wanted Truss or Boris to stay) . Also , it won’t be a battle of personalities because neither Sunak or SKS has one | |||
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"This is result the tories and their voters expected in losses. But I would be worried if I were labour I didn't make more gains. Liv dems are the protest vote and have 3/4 of the same gains. But we all know that won't transition come election time Starmer will really have to stop his back tracking and start promising some election intentions" The Lib Dem being a protest vote is such a condescending trope because in a lot of constituency’s they are the 2nd party! In the south there are probably as many conservatives vs Lib Dem fights as there are conservative vs labour In the north labour have to get a lot of their red wall back… I think the tories are done in the north east… it’s going to be interesting to see what happens in the midlands | |||
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"This is result the tories and their voters expected in losses. But I would be worried if I were labour I didn't make more gains. Liv dems are the protest vote and have 3/4 of the same gains. But we all know that won't transition come election time Starmer will really have to stop his back tracking and start promising some election intentions The tories are finished, I couldn’t care less if it’s labour or labour & Lib Dem coalition who win the next election, it won’t be the tories "It might still need to be lab lob snp... | |||
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"This is result the tories and their voters expected in losses. But I would be worried if I were labour I didn't make more gains. Liv dems are the protest vote and have 3/4 of the same gains. But we all know that won't transition come election time Starmer will really have to stop his back tracking and start promising some election intentions The tories are finished, I couldn’t care less if it’s labour or labour & Lib Dem coalition who win the next election, it won’t be the tories
It might still need to be lab lob snp..."I don’t care as long as it isn’t this bunch of tories, they are useless | |||
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"This is result the tories and their voters expected in losses. But I would be worried if I were labour I didn't make more gains. Liv dems are the protest vote and have 3/4 of the same gains. But we all know that won't transition come election time Starmer will really have to stop his back tracking and start promising some election intentions The tories are finished, I couldn’t care less if it’s labour or labour & Lib Dem coalition who win the next election, it won’t be the tories "It won’t be a formal coalition… because I think Lib Dem’s will have learnt their lesson from last time being the junior partner! I can absolutely see it being a labour minority government with an “memorandum of understanding “ between them, the Lib Dem’s and the SNP | |||
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"This is result the tories and their voters expected in losses. But I would be worried if I were labour I didn't make more gains. Liv dems are the protest vote and have 3/4 of the same gains. But we all know that won't transition come election time Starmer will really have to stop his back tracking and start promising some election intentions The tories are finished, I couldn’t care less if it’s labour or labour & Lib Dem coalition who win the next election, it won’t be the tories
It won’t be a formal coalition… because I think Lib Dem’s will have learnt their lesson from last time being the junior partner! I can absolutely see it being a labour minority government with an “memorandum of understanding “ between them, the Lib Dem’s and the SNP"True, I would be content with that scenario | |||
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"This is result the tories and their voters expected in losses. But I would be worried if I were labour I didn't make more gains. Liv dems are the protest vote and have 3/4 of the same gains. But we all know that won't transition come election time Starmer will really have to stop his back tracking and start promising some election intentions The tories are finished, I couldn’t care less if it’s labour or labour & Lib Dem coalition who win the next election, it won’t be the tories "Projections show Labour would be short of a majority by 28 seats and as I was saying earlier this week, this is with a huge lead in the polls. SKS is throwing away those points daily and will continue to do so and I expect a very tight finish. Hold on to your excitement for the locals, but be prepared for feelings of resentment and anger as the Starmer throws it away right in front of your very eyes over the next 12 - 18 months. | |||
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"This is result the tories and their voters expected in losses. But I would be worried if I were labour I didn't make more gains. Liv dems are the protest vote and have 3/4 of the same gains. But we all know that won't transition come election time Starmer will really have to stop his back tracking and start promising some election intentions The tories are finished, I couldn’t care less if it’s labour or labour & Lib Dem coalition who win the next election, it won’t be the tories
Projections show Labour would be short of a majority by 28 seats and as I was saying earlier this week, this is with a huge lead in the polls.
SKS is throwing away those points daily and will continue to do so and I expect a very tight finish. Hold on to your excitement for the locals, but be prepared for feelings of resentment and anger as the Starmer throws it away right in front of your very eyes over the next 12 - 18 months.
"100% agree. How would SKS be able to better fight against the Tory propaganda machine and the overwhelming right wing Tory supporting press? In my opinion, the only way is to put Tory the Tories. | |||
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"This is result the tories and their voters expected in losses. But I would be worried if I were labour I didn't make more gains. Liv dems are the protest vote and have 3/4 of the same gains. But we all know that won't transition come election time Starmer will really have to stop his back tracking and start promising some election intentions The tories are finished, I couldn’t care less if it’s labour or labour & Lib Dem coalition who win the next election, it won’t be the tories
Projections show Labour would be short of a majority by 28 seats and as I was saying earlier this week, this is with a huge lead in the polls.
SKS is throwing away those points daily and will continue to do so and I expect a very tight finish. Hold on to your excitement for the locals, but be prepared for feelings of resentment and anger as the Starmer throws it away right in front of your very eyes over the next 12 - 18 months.
"I couldn’t care less if labour win a majority or have to form a coalition (I will be voting Lib Dem) the tories will lose the next election, they are finished . And let’s not forget, labour were thrashed in 2019, so they are on course for a huge improvement mainly down to the tories being useless | |||
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"This is result the tories and their voters expected in losses. But I would be worried if I were labour I didn't make more gains. Liv dems are the protest vote and have 3/4 of the same gains. But we all know that won't transition come election time Starmer will really have to stop his back tracking and start promising some election intentions The tories are finished, I couldn’t care less if it’s labour or labour & Lib Dem coalition who win the next election, it won’t be the tories
Projections show Labour would be short of a majority by 28 seats and as I was saying earlier this week, this is with a huge lead in the polls.
SKS is throwing away those points daily and will continue to do so and I expect a very tight finish. Hold on to your excitement for the locals, but be prepared for feelings of resentment and anger as the Starmer throws it away right in front of your very eyes over the next 12 - 18 months.
I couldn’t care less if labour win a majority or have to form a coalition (I will be voting Lib Dem) the tories will lose the next election, they are finished . And let’s not forget, labour were thrashed in 2019, so they are on course for a huge improvement mainly down to the tories being useless "I'm sure this plays out perfectly in your mind, be prepared for another few years of anger is all I'm saying. For warned is forearmed. | |||
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"Looks like the greens have done well as well Yes, great to see, and UKIP have been wiped out " Where did the "foriegners out" votes goto? | |||
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"This is result the tories and their voters expected in losses. But I would be worried if I were labour I didn't make more gains. Liv dems are the protest vote and have 3/4 of the same gains. But we all know that won't transition come election time Starmer will really have to stop his back tracking and start promising some election intentions The tories are finished, I couldn’t care less if it’s labour or labour & Lib Dem coalition who win the next election, it won’t be the tories
Projections show Labour would be short of a majority by 28 seats and as I was saying earlier this week, this is with a huge lead in the polls.
SKS is throwing away those points daily and will continue to do so and I expect a very tight finish. Hold on to your excitement for the locals, but be prepared for feelings of resentment and anger as the Starmer throws it away right in front of your very eyes over the next 12 - 18 months.
I couldn’t care less if labour win a majority or have to form a coalition (I will be voting Lib Dem) the tories will lose the next election, they are finished . And let’s not forget, labour were thrashed in 2019, so they are on course for a huge improvement mainly down to the tories being useless
I'm sure this plays out perfectly in your mind, be prepared for another few years of anger is all I'm saying. For warned is forearmed. "The election is next year, labour have come from a disaster in 2019 to be favourites to win in 2024, your beloved tories are useless and are finished, Sunak can’t stop the rot , SKS doesn’t have to do anything except highlight the shit state the country is in after 13 years of Tory rule . | |||
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"Looks like the greens have done well as well Yes, great to see, and UKIP have been wiped out Where did the "foriegners out" votes goto?" Probably reform , the silent majority is obviously not very large | |||
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"This is result the tories and their voters expected in losses. But I would be worried if I were labour I didn't make more gains. Liv dems are the protest vote and have 3/4 of the same gains. But we all know that won't transition come election time Starmer will really have to stop his back tracking and start promising some election intentions The tories are finished, I couldn’t care less if it’s labour or labour & Lib Dem coalition who win the next election, it won’t be the tories
Projections show Labour would be short of a majority by 28 seats and as I was saying earlier this week, this is with a huge lead in the polls.
SKS is throwing away those points daily and will continue to do so and I expect a very tight finish. Hold on to your excitement for the locals, but be prepared for feelings of resentment and anger as the Starmer throws it away right in front of your very eyes over the next 12 - 18 months.
I couldn’t care less if labour win a majority or have to form a coalition (I will be voting Lib Dem) the tories will lose the next election, they are finished . And let’s not forget, labour were thrashed in 2019, so they are on course for a huge improvement mainly down to the tories being useless
I'm sure this plays out perfectly in your mind, be prepared for another few years of anger is all I'm saying. For warned is forearmed.
The election is next year, labour have come from a disaster in 2019 to be favourites to win in 2024, your beloved tories are useless and are finished, Sunak can’t stop the rot , SKS doesn’t have to do anything except highlight the shit state the country is in after 13 years of Tory rule . "Because I do not agree with your opinions does not put me politically where you believe I should be. You are very blinkered. | |||
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"This is result the tories and their voters expected in losses. But I would be worried if I were labour I didn't make more gains. Liv dems are the protest vote and have 3/4 of the same gains. But we all know that won't transition come election time Starmer will really have to stop his back tracking and start promising some election intentions The tories are finished, I couldn’t care less if it’s labour or labour & Lib Dem coalition who win the next election, it won’t be the tories
Projections show Labour would be short of a majority by 28 seats and as I was saying earlier this week, this is with a huge lead in the polls.
SKS is throwing away those points daily and will continue to do so and I expect a very tight finish. Hold on to your excitement for the locals, but be prepared for feelings of resentment and anger as the Starmer throws it away right in front of your very eyes over the next 12 - 18 months.
I couldn’t care less if labour win a majority or have to form a coalition (I will be voting Lib Dem) the tories will lose the next election, they are finished . And let’s not forget, labour were thrashed in 2019, so they are on course for a huge improvement mainly down to the tories being useless
I'm sure this plays out perfectly in your mind, be prepared for another few years of anger is all I'm saying. For warned is forearmed.
The election is next year, labour have come from a disaster in 2019 to be favourites to win in 2024, your beloved tories are useless and are finished, Sunak can’t stop the rot , SKS doesn’t have to do anything except highlight the shit state the country is in after 13 years of Tory rule .
Because I do not agree with your opinions does not put me politically where you believe I should be.
You are very blinkered."Come on, you voted Tory in 2019, you’re extremely biased posts make it obvious you will vote Tory next year, that’s your choice. The Tory infighting will now start, Sunak will become weaker and weaker , the calls for a return for Boris or truss to return will get louder. Forget about the polls, look at the betting odds, the tories are finished and Sunak ( even though he is a vast improvement on his predecessors) is failing, SKS doesn’t need to do anything | |||
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"This is result the tories and their voters expected in losses. But I would be worried if I were labour I didn't make more gains. Liv dems are the protest vote and have 3/4 of the same gains. But we all know that won't transition come election time Starmer will really have to stop his back tracking and start promising some election intentions The tories are finished, I couldn’t care less if it’s labour or labour & Lib Dem coalition who win the next election, it won’t be the tories
Projections show Labour would be short of a majority by 28 seats and as I was saying earlier this week, this is with a huge lead in the polls.
SKS is throwing away those points daily and will continue to do so and I expect a very tight finish. Hold on to your excitement for the locals, but be prepared for feelings of resentment and anger as the Starmer throws it away right in front of your very eyes over the next 12 - 18 months.
I couldn’t care less if labour win a majority or have to form a coalition (I will be voting Lib Dem) the tories will lose the next election, they are finished . And let’s not forget, labour were thrashed in 2019, so they are on course for a huge improvement mainly down to the tories being useless
I'm sure this plays out perfectly in your mind, be prepared for another few years of anger is all I'm saying. For warned is forearmed.
The election is next year, labour have come from a disaster in 2019 to be favourites to win in 2024, your beloved tories are useless and are finished, Sunak can’t stop the rot , SKS doesn’t have to do anything except highlight the shit state the country is in after 13 years of Tory rule .
Because I do not agree with your opinions does not put me politically where you believe I should be.
You are very blinkered.
Come on, you voted Tory in 2019, you’re extremely biased posts make it obvious you will vote Tory next year, that’s your choice. The Tory infighting will now start, Sunak will become weaker and weaker , the calls for a return for Boris or truss to return will get louder. Forget about the polls, look at the betting odds, the tories are finished and Sunak ( even though he is a vast improvement on his predecessors) is failing, SKS doesn’t need to do anything "You’ve just proved my point , better than I could, thank you. | |||
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"This is result the tories and their voters expected in losses. But I would be worried if I were labour I didn't make more gains. Liv dems are the protest vote and have 3/4 of the same gains. But we all know that won't transition come election time Starmer will really have to stop his back tracking and start promising some election intentions The tories are finished, I couldn’t care less if it’s labour or labour & Lib Dem coalition who win the next election, it won’t be the tories
Projections show Labour would be short of a majority by 28 seats and as I was saying earlier this week, this is with a huge lead in the polls.
SKS is throwing away those points daily and will continue to do so and I expect a very tight finish. Hold on to your excitement for the locals, but be prepared for feelings of resentment and anger as the Starmer throws it away right in front of your very eyes over the next 12 - 18 months.
I couldn’t care less if labour win a majority or have to form a coalition (I will be voting Lib Dem) the tories will lose the next election, they are finished . And let’s not forget, labour were thrashed in 2019, so they are on course for a huge improvement mainly down to the tories being useless
I'm sure this plays out perfectly in your mind, be prepared for another few years of anger is all I'm saying. For warned is forearmed.
The election is next year, labour have come from a disaster in 2019 to be favourites to win in 2024, your beloved tories are useless and are finished, Sunak can’t stop the rot , SKS doesn’t have to do anything except highlight the shit state the country is in after 13 years of Tory rule .
Because I do not agree with your opinions does not put me politically where you believe I should be.
You are very blinkered."You might not like the answer, but in a way he is right… sunak has to make people forget the legacy that is Johnson and Liz truss…and because inflation is where it is and how truss and Kwarteng nearly destroyed the uk economy | |||
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"This is result the tories and their voters expected in losses. But I would be worried if I were labour I didn't make more gains. Liv dems are the protest vote and have 3/4 of the same gains. But we all know that won't transition come election time Starmer will really have to stop his back tracking and start promising some election intentions The tories are finished, I couldn’t care less if it’s labour or labour & Lib Dem coalition who win the next election, it won’t be the tories
It won’t be a formal coalition… because I think Lib Dem’s will have learnt their lesson from last time being the junior partner! I can absolutely see it being a labour minority government with an “memorandum of understanding “ between them, the Lib Dem’s and the SNP"If the SNP aren't all in prison. | |||
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"This is result the tories and their voters expected in losses. But I would be worried if I were labour I didn't make more gains. Liv dems are the protest vote and have 3/4 of the same gains. But we all know that won't transition come election time Starmer will really have to stop his back tracking and start promising some election intentions The tories are finished, I couldn’t care less if it’s labour or labour & Lib Dem coalition who win the next election, it won’t be the tories
Projections show Labour would be short of a majority by 28 seats and as I was saying earlier this week, this is with a huge lead in the polls.
SKS is throwing away those points daily and will continue to do so and I expect a very tight finish. Hold on to your excitement for the locals, but be prepared for feelings of resentment and anger as the Starmer throws it away right in front of your very eyes over the next 12 - 18 months.
I couldn’t care less if labour win a majority or have to form a coalition (I will be voting Lib Dem) the tories will lose the next election, they are finished . And let’s not forget, labour were thrashed in 2019, so they are on course for a huge improvement mainly down to the tories being useless
I'm sure this plays out perfectly in your mind, be prepared for another few years of anger is all I'm saying. For warned is forearmed.
The election is next year, labour have come from a disaster in 2019 to be favourites to win in 2024, your beloved tories are useless and are finished, Sunak can’t stop the rot , SKS doesn’t have to do anything except highlight the shit state the country is in after 13 years of Tory rule .
Because I do not agree with your opinions does not put me politically where you believe I should be.
You are very blinkered.
You might not like the answer, but in a way he is right… sunak has to make people forget the legacy that is Johnson and Liz truss…and because inflation is where it is and how truss and Kwarteng nearly destroyed the uk economy "Inflation is where it is because the government pissed £500 billion of printed money down the drain on COVID, because of an awful energy policy that's primarily focused on posturing at international climate change conferences, and because of the usual pointless liberal warmongering in Ukraine. None of those things would have been any different under Labour. | |||
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"If Rishi Sunak reads the room before the next election and commits the U.K. to a much closer relationship with the EU when Johnson’s deal is up for renewal, the Conservatives would leave Starmer and the Labour Party completely stymied. Regardless of the ongoing economic hit, problems in N Ireland and pointless red tape that is happening because of Brexit, polls after polls are suggesting that people think that Brexit was wrong. Today’s ITV youth poll indicated that 86% of our future butchers, bakers and candlestick makers would vote to join the EU. Joining the EU is not going to happen again anytime soon, but a Party that commits to a closer relationship as a means of normalising the economy, travel and N Ireland is surely going to win votes at the next election. (This is not about arguing whether Brexit was right or wrong, but how politically the two main parties have (so far) laid their stalls out regarding Brexit and the EU. Sunak hasn’t really said anything yet, whereas Starmer has stated categorically that there is no justification for further debate and the EU/Brexit case is closed. Sunak is out smarting SKS at every step and SKS is pressing the self destruct button at every opportunity. Labour are 16 points ahead in the polls
There are no doubting the polls but looking at trends you can see the Tories narrowing and narrowing that gap.
That's not good for Labour.
Slightly, Sunak is a competent PM, but he is surrounded by shite and the economy has crashed, inflation at a 40 year high
Living standards at a 40 year low
Millions on strikes
Thousands of boat asylum seekers etc etc
Certain people will never vote for him because of what he did to Boris and because he is of Asian heritage , he will lose million of voters to reform.
Oh I still don't think the Tories will will the election but there's no doubt that the polls have only been going one way since Sunak was appointed PM
How could they get any worse for the tories after Truss? "True the bar was set too low, anyone coming in after Liz Truss was bound to be better | |||
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"This is result the tories and their voters expected in losses. But I would be worried if I were labour I didn't make more gains. Liv dems are the protest vote and have 3/4 of the same gains. But we all know that won't transition come election time Starmer will really have to stop his back tracking and start promising some election intentions The tories are finished, I couldn’t care less if it’s labour or labour & Lib Dem coalition who win the next election, it won’t be the tories
Projections show Labour would be short of a majority by 28 seats and as I was saying earlier this week, this is with a huge lead in the polls.
SKS is throwing away those points daily and will continue to do so and I expect a very tight finish. Hold on to your excitement for the locals, but be prepared for feelings of resentment and anger as the Starmer throws it away right in front of your very eyes over the next 12 - 18 months.
I couldn’t care less if labour win a majority or have to form a coalition (I will be voting Lib Dem) the tories will lose the next election, they are finished . And let’s not forget, labour were thrashed in 2019, so they are on course for a huge improvement mainly down to the tories being useless
I'm sure this plays out perfectly in your mind, be prepared for another few years of anger is all I'm saying. For warned is forearmed.
The election is next year, labour have come from a disaster in 2019 to be favourites to win in 2024, your beloved tories are useless and are finished, Sunak can’t stop the rot , SKS doesn’t have to do anything except highlight the shit state the country is in after 13 years of Tory rule .
Because I do not agree with your opinions does not put me politically where you believe I should be.
You are very blinkered.
You might not like the answer, but in a way he is right… sunak has to make people forget the legacy that is Johnson and Liz truss…and because inflation is where it is and how truss and Kwarteng nearly destroyed the uk economy
Inflation is where it is because the government pissed £500 billion of printed money down the drain on COVID, because of an awful energy policy that's primarily focused on posturing at international climate change conferences, and because of the usual pointless liberal warmongering in Ukraine.
None of those things would have been any different under Labour."I actually think things would have been better. Loads of countries had QE, but have all recovered better than us. Inflation is partly high because supermarkets are profiting and keeping prices of essentials high, they are doing this, because they know they can get away with this under the current government. | |||
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"This is result the tories and their voters expected in losses. But I would be worried if I were labour I didn't make more gains. Liv dems are the protest vote and have 3/4 of the same gains. But we all know that won't transition come election time Starmer will really have to stop his back tracking and start promising some election intentions The tories are finished, I couldn’t care less if it’s labour or labour & Lib Dem coalition who win the next election, it won’t be the tories
Projections show Labour would be short of a majority by 28 seats and as I was saying earlier this week, this is with a huge lead in the polls.
SKS is throwing away those points daily and will continue to do so and I expect a very tight finish. Hold on to your excitement for the locals, but be prepared for feelings of resentment and anger as the Starmer throws it away right in front of your very eyes over the next 12 - 18 months.
I couldn’t care less if labour win a majority or have to form a coalition (I will be voting Lib Dem) the tories will lose the next election, they are finished . And let’s not forget, labour were thrashed in 2019, so they are on course for a huge improvement mainly down to the tories being useless
I'm sure this plays out perfectly in your mind, be prepared for another few years of anger is all I'm saying. For warned is forearmed.
The election is next year, labour have come from a disaster in 2019 to be favourites to win in 2024, your beloved tories are useless and are finished, Sunak can’t stop the rot , SKS doesn’t have to do anything except highlight the shit state the country is in after 13 years of Tory rule .
Because I do not agree with your opinions does not put me politically where you believe I should be.
You are very blinkered.
Come on, you voted Tory in 2019, you’re extremely biased posts make it obvious you will vote Tory next year, that’s your choice. The Tory infighting will now start, Sunak will become weaker and weaker , the calls for a return for Boris or truss to return will get louder. Forget about the polls, look at the betting odds, the tories are finished and Sunak ( even though he is a vast improvement on his predecessors) is failing, SKS doesn’t need to do anything "Only if the right of the Conservatives get leverage. Not a chance in hell is LT coming back, I actually do not think she was a default right winger, but got hijacked, and went with the wave. She was never in control of the party.BJ, on the other hand, he is a disruptive candidate, there will be elements in the party that woyuld want him back, but it will remain a fantasy. he will remain in the bank benches, or front benches mainly to keep an eye on him, not to lead the party. | |||
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"This is result the tories and their voters expected in losses. But I would be worried if I were labour I didn't make more gains. Liv dems are the protest vote and have 3/4 of the same gains. But we all know that won't transition come election time Starmer will really have to stop his back tracking and start promising some election intentions The tories are finished, I couldn’t care less if it’s labour or labour & Lib Dem coalition who win the next election, it won’t be the tories
Projections show Labour would be short of a majority by 28 seats and as I was saying earlier this week, this is with a huge lead in the polls.
SKS is throwing away those points daily and will continue to do so and I expect a very tight finish. Hold on to your excitement for the locals, but be prepared for feelings of resentment and anger as the Starmer throws it away right in front of your very eyes over the next 12 - 18 months.
I couldn’t care less if labour win a majority or have to form a coalition (I will be voting Lib Dem) the tories will lose the next election, they are finished . And let’s not forget, labour were thrashed in 2019, so they are on course for a huge improvement mainly down to the tories being useless
I'm sure this plays out perfectly in your mind, be prepared for another few years of anger is all I'm saying. For warned is forearmed.
The election is next year, labour have come from a disaster in 2019 to be favourites to win in 2024, your beloved tories are useless and are finished, Sunak can’t stop the rot , SKS doesn’t have to do anything except highlight the shit state the country is in after 13 years of Tory rule .
Because I do not agree with your opinions does not put me politically where you believe I should be.
You are very blinkered.
Come on, you voted Tory in 2019, you’re extremely biased posts make it obvious you will vote Tory next year, that’s your choice. The Tory infighting will now start, Sunak will become weaker and weaker , the calls for a return for Boris or truss to return will get louder. Forget about the polls, look at the betting odds, the tories are finished and Sunak ( even though he is a vast improvement on his predecessors) is failing, SKS doesn’t need to do anything
Only if the right of the Conservatives get leverage. Not a chance in hell is LT coming back, I actually do not think she was a default right winger, but got hijacked, and went with the wave. She was never in control of the party.BJ, on the other hand, he is a disruptive candidate, there will be elements in the party that woyuld want him back, but it will remain a fantasy. he will remain in the bank benches, or front benches mainly to keep an eye on him, not to lead the party. "There is only one tory that could replace Sunak and get a better poll rating, Penny Mordaunt but the timings off so Sunak in my opinion will be leading to the GE. If I was in Sunak's shoes, I would be pushing Mordaunt into the limelight to capitalise on her recent popularity boost. | |||
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"This is result the tories and their voters expected in losses. But I would be worried if I were labour I didn't make more gains. Liv dems are the protest vote and have 3/4 of the same gains. But we all know that won't transition come election time Starmer will really have to stop his back tracking and start promising some election intentions The tories are finished, I couldn’t care less if it’s labour or labour & Lib Dem coalition who win the next election, it won’t be the tories
Projections show Labour would be short of a majority by 28 seats and as I was saying earlier this week, this is with a huge lead in the polls.
SKS is throwing away those points daily and will continue to do so and I expect a very tight finish. Hold on to your excitement for the locals, but be prepared for feelings of resentment and anger as the Starmer throws it away right in front of your very eyes over the next 12 - 18 months.
I couldn’t care less if labour win a majority or have to form a coalition (I will be voting Lib Dem) the tories will lose the next election, they are finished . And let’s not forget, labour were thrashed in 2019, so they are on course for a huge improvement mainly down to the tories being useless
I'm sure this plays out perfectly in your mind, be prepared for another few years of anger is all I'm saying. For warned is forearmed.
The election is next year, labour have come from a disaster in 2019 to be favourites to win in 2024, your beloved tories are useless and are finished, Sunak can’t stop the rot , SKS doesn’t have to do anything except highlight the shit state the country is in after 13 years of Tory rule .
Because I do not agree with your opinions does not put me politically where you believe I should be.
You are very blinkered.
Come on, you voted Tory in 2019, you’re extremely biased posts make it obvious you will vote Tory next year, that’s your choice. The Tory infighting will now start, Sunak will become weaker and weaker , the calls for a return for Boris or truss to return will get louder. Forget about the polls, look at the betting odds, the tories are finished and Sunak ( even though he is a vast improvement on his predecessors) is failing, SKS doesn’t need to do anything
Only if the right of the Conservatives get leverage. Not a chance in hell is LT coming back, I actually do not think she was a default right winger, but got hijacked, and went with the wave. She was never in control of the party.BJ, on the other hand, he is a disruptive candidate, there will be elements in the party that woyuld want him back, but it will remain a fantasy. he will remain in the bank benches, or front benches mainly to keep an eye on him, not to lead the party.
There is only one tory that could replace Sunak and get a better poll rating, Penny Mordaunt but the timings off so Sunak in my opinion will be leading to the GE.
If I was in Sunak's shoes, I would be pushing Mordaunt into the limelight to capitalise on her recent popularity boost. "Just because she starred in a Game of Thrones cosplay doesn’t mean that she is popular. The Coronation was a flop everywhere other than in central London. Very few care anymore about Royalty and politicians who dress up to act out their Royal fantasies. They are all done for unless Sunak quite literally pulls a rabbit out of the hat and rejects the ideologies of the last 13 years. | |||
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"This is result the tories and their voters expected in losses. But I would be worried if I were labour I didn't make more gains. Liv dems are the protest vote and have 3/4 of the same gains. But we all know that won't transition come election time Starmer will really have to stop his back tracking and start promising some election intentions The tories are finished, I couldn’t care less if it’s labour or labour & Lib Dem coalition who win the next election, it won’t be the tories
Projections show Labour would be short of a majority by 28 seats and as I was saying earlier this week, this is with a huge lead in the polls.
SKS is throwing away those points daily and will continue to do so and I expect a very tight finish. Hold on to your excitement for the locals, but be prepared for feelings of resentment and anger as the Starmer throws it away right in front of your very eyes over the next 12 - 18 months.
I couldn’t care less if labour win a majority or have to form a coalition (I will be voting Lib Dem) the tories will lose the next election, they are finished . And let’s not forget, labour were thrashed in 2019, so they are on course for a huge improvement mainly down to the tories being useless
I'm sure this plays out perfectly in your mind, be prepared for another few years of anger is all I'm saying. For warned is forearmed.
The election is next year, labour have come from a disaster in 2019 to be favourites to win in 2024, your beloved tories are useless and are finished, Sunak can’t stop the rot , SKS doesn’t have to do anything except highlight the shit state the country is in after 13 years of Tory rule .
Because I do not agree with your opinions does not put me politically where you believe I should be.
You are very blinkered.
Come on, you voted Tory in 2019, you’re extremely biased posts make it obvious you will vote Tory next year, that’s your choice. The Tory infighting will now start, Sunak will become weaker and weaker , the calls for a return for Boris or truss to return will get louder. Forget about the polls, look at the betting odds, the tories are finished and Sunak ( even though he is a vast improvement on his predecessors) is failing, SKS doesn’t need to do anything
Only if the right of the Conservatives get leverage. Not a chance in hell is LT coming back, I actually do not think she was a default right winger, but got hijacked, and went with the wave. She was never in control of the party.BJ, on the other hand, he is a disruptive candidate, there will be elements in the party that woyuld want him back, but it will remain a fantasy. he will remain in the bank benches, or front benches mainly to keep an eye on him, not to lead the party.
There is only one tory that could replace Sunak and get a better poll rating, Penny Mordaunt but the timings off so Sunak in my opinion will be leading to the GE.
If I was in Sunak's shoes, I would be pushing Mordaunt into the limelight to capitalise on her recent popularity boost.
Just because she starred in a Game of Thrones cosplay doesn’t mean that she is popular.
The Coronation was a flop everywhere other than in central London. Very few care anymore about Royalty and politicians who dress up to act out their Royal fantasies.
They are all done for unless Sunak quite literally pulls a rabbit out of the hat and rejects the ideologies of the last 13 years."400 million watched the coronation world wide, which seems to be at odds with your opinion. Mardaunt discovered a whole new fan base from her role at the coronation, which is understandable after watching her carry out her duties with so much respect. | |||
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"In 2019 the tories won an 80+ seat majority, The fact that Labour are so close to a majority in less than one term is groundbreaking. How far, so fast the tories have fallen. When you consider demographics (The average tory member is now over 65 years old, the only age groups that are more likely to vote tory than labour is 55-64yrs and 65+ (and both percentages are down on 2015 and 2017). The tories have to reinvent themselves or face extinction. And I for one welcome the party's demise." I don't think they need to worry about reinventing themselves. They get voted in again and again regardless. They have by far the biggest campaign war chest, the backing of big corporations, and the majority of the press. | |||
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"In 2019 the tories won an 80+ seat majority, The fact that Labour are so close to a majority in less than one term is groundbreaking. How far, so fast the tories have fallen. When you consider demographics (The average tory member is now over 65 years old, the only age groups that are more likely to vote tory than labour is 55-64yrs and 65+ (and both percentages are down on 2015 and 2017). The tories have to reinvent themselves or face extinction. And I for one welcome the party's demise. I don't think they need to worry about reinventing themselves. They get voted in again and again regardless. They have by far the biggest campaign war chest, the backing of big corporations, and the majority of the press." You go on about this relentlessly. Do you really not think that barring an economic miracle in the next 12 months, people will realise that after 14 years of Conservative Government - nothing in their lives has got better? NHS - Disaster Trains and public transport - expensive and calamitous Schools - underfunded Social care - in crisis Holiday spending money - worth less than 14 years ago Energy costs - out of control You think that people will want even more of that? | |||
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"In 2019 the tories won an 80+ seat majority, The fact that Labour are so close to a majority in less than one term is groundbreaking. How far, so fast the tories have fallen. When you consider demographics (The average tory member is now over 65 years old, the only age groups that are more likely to vote tory than labour is 55-64yrs and 65+ (and both percentages are down on 2015 and 2017). The tories have to reinvent themselves or face extinction. And I for one welcome the party's demise. I don't think they need to worry about reinventing themselves. They get voted in again and again regardless. They have by far the biggest campaign war chest, the backing of big corporations, and the majority of the press. You go on about this relentlessly. Do you really not think that barring an economic miracle in the next 12 months, people will realise that after 14 years of Conservative Government - nothing in their lives has got better? NHS - Disaster Trains and public transport - expensive and calamitous Schools - underfunded Social care - in crisis Holiday spending money - worth less than 14 years ago Energy costs - out of control You think that people will want even more of that?" Evidence would suggest they will keep voting Tory regardless. It's only my opinion that it's their PR machine and the supporting press that keeps them in power. It sure isn't their performance and integrity. | |||
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"If Rishi Sunak reads the room before the next election and commits the U.K. to a much closer relationship with the EU when Johnson’s deal is up for renewal, the Conservatives would leave Starmer and the Labour Party completely stymied. Regardless of the ongoing economic hit, problems in N Ireland and pointless red tape that is happening because of Brexit, polls after polls are suggesting that people think that Brexit was wrong. Today’s ITV youth poll indicated that 86% of our future butchers, bakers and candlestick makers would vote to join the EU. Joining the EU is not going to happen again anytime soon, but a Party that commits to a closer relationship as a means of normalising the economy, travel and N Ireland is surely going to win votes at the next election. (This is not about arguing whether Brexit was right or wrong, but how politically the two main parties have (so far) laid their stalls out regarding Brexit and the EU. Sunak hasn’t really said anything yet, whereas Starmer has stated categorically that there is no justification for further debate and the EU/Brexit case is closed." Didn't Labour's lack of action on brexit, hurt the party in the last election? As I seem to recall labour sat on the fence for too long, then decided what they would do way to late to help themselves. | |||
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