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"We will soon be entering the 13th year of Conservative governance. We have all had some memorable challenges during this time such as Brexit and Covid more recently, which have dominated the headlines along with stories of sleaze. My question, what policies and achievements have the conservative government delivered during their time in power that have been successful?" Same sex marriage  | |||
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"True meritocracy in politics epitomised by the likes of Johnson and Truss getting the top job...oh wait erm!!! " You must be able to find one thing? | |||
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"True meritocracy in politics epitomised by the likes of Johnson and Truss getting the top job...oh wait erm!!! You must be able to find one thing? "Struggling | |||
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"We will soon be entering the 13th year of Conservative governance. We have all had some memorable challenges during this time such as Brexit and Covid more recently, which have dominated the headlines along with stories of sleaze. My question, what policies and achievements have the conservative government delivered during their time in power that have been successful?" Top of the pile has to be the sucking of the usa ball bag in their harassment of Julian assange. | |||
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"We will soon be entering the 13th year of Conservative governance. We have all had some memorable challenges during this time such as Brexit and Covid more recently, which have dominated the headlines along with stories of sleaze. My question, what policies and achievements have the conservative government delivered during their time in power that have been successful? Top of the pile has to be the sucking of the usa ball bag in their harassment of Julian assange. " That’s a fairly provocative image I will never get out of my head now thanks | |||
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"We will soon be entering the 13th year of Conservative governance. We have all had some memorable challenges during this time such as Brexit and Covid more recently, which have dominated the headlines along with stories of sleaze. My question, what policies and achievements have the conservative government delivered during their time in power that have been successful?" Nothing meaningful has been delivered. You can’t count reversing policies previously forced through as a success so any amount of funding for Police, NHS and education is completely moot. GDP per capita still way off what was under Blair. Transport, health and energy all in disarray and failing to work for ordinary people. Computer and telephone fraud at an all-time high and not a particularly difficult thing to fix. Their only success was to to coalesce a group of liars and charlatans in order to promote the fantasy of beautiful life outside of the EU. Millions believed them and voted against their own best interest and the group subsequently burned the house down, destroyed the evidence and championed a new cause to keep people divided and distracted. That I suppose was “their” success. | |||
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"We haven't had Conservatives since Thatcher." What have we had since 2010 | |||
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"We haven't had Conservatives since Thatcher." John Major waves from the corner “hello!” Actually Cameron and May were Conservatives but were fighting against the influence of the ERG and Tufton St Mafia(s). Johnson and Truss were...something else! Sunak, still not sure! | |||
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"We haven't had Conservatives since Thatcher. What have we had since 2010" new new labour. | |||
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"We will soon be entering the 13th year of Conservative governance. We have all had some memorable challenges during this time such as Brexit and Covid more recently, which have dominated the headlines along with stories of sleaze. My question, what policies and achievements have the conservative government delivered during their time in power that have been successful?" Reductions in tax. Raises in personal allowance. Before pandemic.ic bringing fow the deficit. Having a referendum on European Union. Universal credit. Though improvements still required. Joining cptpp Welfare cap. | |||
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"We will soon be entering the 13th year of Conservative governance. We have all had some memorable challenges during this time such as Brexit and Covid more recently, which have dominated the headlines along with stories of sleaze. My question, what policies and achievements have the conservative government delivered during their time in power that have been successful?" - Promotion of greed - Suppression of the vulnerable, disabled did advantaged -environmental damage - handed control of our borders to human traffickers, international criminal gangs and terrorists -degradation of the NHS - allowed crooked landlords rip off tenants with badly maintained moldy housing that kills - allowed big business to rip off the UK citizens they are supposed to defend - degraded law and order - dumped billions of taxpayers money into proping up private companies involved in bollocks projects To name a few.. | |||
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"We will soon be entering the 13th year of Conservative governance. We have all had some memorable challenges during this time such as Brexit and Covid more recently, which have dominated the headlines along with stories of sleaze. My question, what policies and achievements have the conservative government delivered during their time in power that have been successful? - Promotion of greed - Suppression of the vulnerable, disabled did advantaged -environmental damage - handed control of our borders to human traffickers, international criminal gangs and terrorists -degradation of the NHS - allowed crooked landlords rip off tenants with badly maintained moldy housing that kills - allowed big business to rip off the UK citizens they are supposed to defend - degraded law and order - dumped billions of taxpayers money into proping up private companies involved in bollocks projects To name a few.. " This reminds me of a other disaster. Not giving landlords dss tenants rents directly resulting in houses with arrears increasing 4 fold.  | |||
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"- allowed crooked landlords rip off tenants with badly maintained moldy housing that kills" Only one person has died from mould in a rented house, and that house was owned by a charity, overseen by a Labour council. Can't really blame the Tories for that. | |||
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"We will soon be entering the 13th year of Conservative governance. We have all had some memorable challenges during this time such as Brexit and Covid more recently, which have dominated the headlines along with stories of sleaze. My question, what policies and achievements have the conservative government delivered during their time in power that have been successful?" Do you mean successful in terms of being good for the country, or successful in terms of the things they have done for those who donate to the party? | |||
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"Disasters. Energy policy( going 50% renewable and not nuclear) Hs2 Not Fracking Sugar taxes. Continual devolution " Not fracking is a "disaster"? Lolz This place never fails to make me laugh. Sterling work. | |||
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"Disasters. Energy policy( going 50% renewable and not nuclear) Hs2 Not Fracking Sugar taxes. Continual devolution Not fracking is a "disaster"? Lolz This place never fails to make me laugh. Sterling work. " We are currently importing gas from texas where its franked. Lulz | |||
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"We will soon be entering the 13th year of Conservative governance. We have all had some memorable challenges during this time such as Brexit and Covid more recently, which have dominated the headlines along with stories of sleaze. My question, what policies and achievements have the conservative government delivered during their time in power that have been successful? Do you mean successful in terms of being good for the country, or successful in terms of the things they have done for those who donate to the party?" Good for the country. | |||
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"Disasters. Energy policy( going 50% renewable and not nuclear) Hs2 Not Fracking Sugar taxes. Continual devolution Not fracking is a "disaster"? Lolz This place never fails to make me laugh. Sterling work. We are currently importing gas from texas where its franked. Lulz" Mmhmm. That is a negative. Destroying the planet and local environment here isn't the answer | |||
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"We will soon be entering the 13th year of Conservative governance. We have all had some memorable challenges during this time such as Brexit and Covid more recently, which have dominated the headlines along with stories of sleaze. My question, what policies and achievements have the conservative government delivered during their time in power that have been successful? Do you mean successful in terms of being good for the country, or successful in terms of the things they have done for those who donate to the party? Good for the country. " This is a really good question. I'll have to research. | |||
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"Disasters. Energy policy( going 50% renewable and not nuclear) Hs2 Not Fracking Sugar taxes. Continual devolution Not fracking is a "disaster"? Lolz This place never fails to make me laugh. Sterling work. We are currently importing gas from texas where its franked. Lulz Mmhmm. That is a negative. Destroying the planet and local environment here isn't the answer " Sadly the poor planning has led to even more environmental damage. As we now import. | |||
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"Disasters. Energy policy( going 50% renewable and not nuclear) Hs2 Not Fracking Sugar taxes. Continual devolution Not fracking is a "disaster"? Lolz This place never fails to make me laugh. Sterling work. We are currently importing gas from texas where its franked. Lulz Mmhmm. That is a negative. Destroying the planet and local environment here isn't the answer Sadly the poor planning has led to even more environmental damage. As we now import." Indeed. Let's put our heads together and try to think of something positive the Tories have achieved for the country in the last 13 years. | |||
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"Disasters. Energy policy( going 50% renewable and not nuclear) Hs2 Not Fracking Sugar taxes. Continual devolution Not fracking is a "disaster"? Lolz This place never fails to make me laugh. Sterling work. We are currently importing gas from texas where its franked. Lulz Mmhmm. That is a negative. Destroying the planet and local environment here isn't the answer Sadly the poor planning has led to even more environmental damage. As we now import. Indeed. Let's put our heads together and try to think of something positive the Tories have achieved for the country in the last 13 years. " I gave a list | |||
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"Disasters. Energy policy( going 50% renewable and not nuclear) Hs2 Not Fracking Sugar taxes. Continual devolution Not fracking is a "disaster"? Lolz This place never fails to make me laugh. Sterling work. We are currently importing gas from texas where its franked. Lulz Mmhmm. That is a negative. Destroying the planet and local environment here isn't the answer Sadly the poor planning has led to even more environmental damage. As we now import. Indeed. Let's put our heads together and try to think of something positive the Tories have achieved for the country in the last 13 years. I gave a list "Oh, I thought that was a joke.  | |||
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"We will soon be entering the 13th year of Conservative governance. We have all had some memorable challenges during this time such as Brexit and Covid more recently, which have dominated the headlines along with stories of sleaze. My question, what policies and achievements have the conservative government delivered during their time in power that have been successful? Reductions in tax. Raises in personal allowance. Before pandemic.ic bringing fow the deficit. Having a referendum on European Union. Universal credit. Though improvements still required. Joining cptpp Welfare cap. " Tax at a record high. Budget deficit fell public services were massively defunded, leading to the service failures and strikes now. Leaving the EU distracting from doing everything else for years with a tiny fraction of the economic cost being made up for by the CPTPP. Universal credit has brought bankruptcy, hardship and chaos to thousands as has the welfare cap. Interesting what you celebrate. | |||
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"We will soon be entering the 13th year of Conservative governance. We have all had some memorable challenges during this time such as Brexit and Covid more recently, which have dominated the headlines along with stories of sleaze. My question, what policies and achievements have the conservative government delivered during their time in power that have been successful?" Same sex marriage and the initial stabilisation of the economy after the global crash. More coherent funding of innovation, technology and science, until Brexit. Coherent policies around transition to renewable energy (until recently) and electric vehicles. | |||
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"We will soon be entering the 13th year of Conservative governance. We have all had some memorable challenges during this time such as Brexit and Covid more recently, which have dominated the headlines along with stories of sleaze. My question, what policies and achievements have the conservative government delivered during their time in power that have been successful? Same sex marriage and the initial stabilisation of the economy after the global crash. More coherent funding of innovation, technology and science, until Brexit. Coherent policies around transition to renewable energy (until recently) and electric vehicles." I'd challenge the last one. Cameron promised a huge drive towards solar power generation when he was campaigning to be elected. Which wasn't the best option for the UK. But at least it was something. And then immediately scrapped it when elected. Also the Tories are still heavily funded by the fossil fuels industry. So are woefully behind in making any meaningful changes. | |||
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"We will soon be entering the 13th year of Conservative governance. We have all had some memorable challenges during this time such as Brexit and Covid more recently, which have dominated the headlines along with stories of sleaze. My question, what policies and achievements have the conservative government delivered during their time in power that have been successful? Same sex marriage "Same sex marriage wasn’t technically a conservative proposal…. It was a Liberal Democrat proposal with ended up being in the coalition agreement | |||
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"We will soon be entering the 13th year of Conservative governance. We have all had some memorable challenges during this time such as Brexit and Covid more recently, which have dominated the headlines along with stories of sleaze. My question, what policies and achievements have the conservative government delivered during their time in power that have been successful? Reductions in tax. Raises in personal allowance. Before pandemic.ic bringing fow the deficit. Having a referendum on European Union. Universal credit. Though improvements still required. Joining cptpp Welfare cap. " You are going to hate me…. The rise in personal allowances to 12,500…. Also a Lib Dem proposal that ended up being in coalition agreement | |||
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"Same sex marriage seems to be the major achievement. Especially seeing as more of them voted against it, than for it. Also getting it over the line in Northern Ireland was a fantastic achievement. " Getting it over the line in Northern Ireland was more of a fortunate loophole because of the DUP antics with not taking up power sharing at stormont all powers came back to London … and they took advantage of that where the DUP would have used power of veto to stop it! | |||
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"We will soon be entering the 13th year of Conservative governance. We have all had some memorable challenges during this time such as Brexit and Covid more recently, which have dominated the headlines along with stories of sleaze. My question, what policies and achievements have the conservative government delivered during their time in power that have been successful? Reductions in tax. Raises in personal allowance. Before pandemic.ic bringing fow the deficit. Having a referendum on European Union. Universal credit. Though improvements still required. Joining cptpp Welfare cap. Tax at a record high. Budget deficit fell public services were massively defunded, leading to the service failures and strikes now. Leaving the EU distracting from doing everything else for years with a tiny fraction of the economic cost being made up for by the CPTPP. Universal credit has brought bankruptcy, hardship and chaos to thousands as has the welfare cap. Interesting what you celebrate." Budget deficit fell public services spending increased in all but 1 year
Tax at lows I am afraid. Not sure where you get your info from.
The economic cost doesn't need tk be made up by cptpp we have an FTA
Universal credit has stopped waste and aligned several benefits systems to moderate more efficiently.
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"We will soon be entering the 13th year of Conservative governance. We have all had some memorable challenges during this time such as Brexit and Covid more recently, which have dominated the headlines along with stories of sleaze. My question, what policies and achievements have the conservative government delivered during their time in power that have been successful? Reductions in tax. Raises in personal allowance. Before pandemic.ic bringing fow the deficit. Having a referendum on European Union. Universal credit. Though improvements still required. Joining cptpp Welfare cap. You are going to hate me…. The rise in personal allowances to 12,500…. Also a Lib Dem proposal that ended up being in coalition agreement "I have attributed the personal lowance because the tories still enacted it. Just as I have put I their disastrous green policy. Which was also due to lib dems in that same coalition. Fairs fair. I've criticised them for 1 liv dem policy they deserve credit for the othrr | |||
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"We will soon be entering the 13th year of Conservative governance. We have all had some memorable challenges during this time such as Brexit and Covid more recently, which have dominated the headlines along with stories of sleaze. My question, what policies and achievements have the conservative government delivered during their time in power that have been successful? Reductions in tax. Raises in personal allowance. Before pandemic.ic bringing fow the deficit. Having a referendum on European Union. Universal credit. Though improvements still required. Joining cptpp Welfare cap. Tax at a record high. Budget deficit fell public services were massively defunded, leading to the service failures and strikes now. Leaving the EU distracting from doing everything else for years with a tiny fraction of the economic cost being made up for by the CPTPP. Universal credit has brought bankruptcy, hardship and chaos to thousands as has the welfare cap. Interesting what you celebrate. Budget deficit fell public services spending increased in all but 1 year
Tax at lows I am afraid. Not sure where you get your info from.
The economic cost doesn't need tk be made up by cptpp we have an FTA
Universal credit has stopped waste and aligned several benefits systems to moderate more efficiently.
Brilliant stuff "To me, you're a very interesting insight to the huge element of the electorate who thinks the Tories are worth voting for. | |||
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"We will soon be entering the 13th year of Conservative governance. We have all had some memorable challenges during this time such as Brexit and Covid more recently, which have dominated the headlines along with stories of sleaze. My question, what policies and achievements have the conservative government delivered during their time in power that have been successful? Reductions in tax. Raises in personal allowance. Before pandemic.ic bringing fow the deficit. Having a referendum on European Union. Universal credit. Though improvements still required. Joining cptpp Welfare cap. Tax at a record high. Budget deficit fell public services were massively defunded, leading to the service failures and strikes now. Leaving the EU distracting from doing everything else for years with a tiny fraction of the economic cost being made up for by the CPTPP. Universal credit has brought bankruptcy, hardship and chaos to thousands as has the welfare cap. Interesting what you celebrate. Budget deficit fell public services spending increased in all but 1 year
Tax at lows I am afraid. Not sure where you get your info from.
The economic cost doesn't need tk be made up by cptpp we have an FTA
Universal credit has stopped waste and aligned several benefits systems to moderate more efficiently.
Brilliant stuff
To me, you're a very interesting insight to the huge element of the electorate who thinks the Tories are worth voting for. "I voted them in once retain policies in 2019. A fair few of those are yet to be enacted. I am also floating voter I've voted for all 3 major parties in my life time. | |||
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"We will soon be entering the 13th year of Conservative governance. We have all had some memorable challenges during this time such as Brexit and Covid more recently, which have dominated the headlines along with stories of sleaze. My question, what policies and achievements have the conservative government delivered during their time in power that have been successful? Reductions in tax. Raises in personal allowance. Before pandemic.ic bringing fow the deficit. Having a referendum on European Union. Universal credit. Though improvements still required. Joining cptpp Welfare cap. Tax at a record high. Budget deficit fell public services were massively defunded, leading to the service failures and strikes now. Leaving the EU distracting from doing everything else for years with a tiny fraction of the economic cost being made up for by the CPTPP. Universal credit has brought bankruptcy, hardship and chaos to thousands as has the welfare cap. Interesting what you celebrate. Budget deficit fell public services spending increased in all but 1 year
Tax at lows I am afraid. Not sure where you get your info from.
The economic cost doesn't need tk be made up by cptpp we have an FTA
Universal credit has stopped waste and aligned several benefits systems to moderate more efficiently.
Brilliant stuff
To me, you're a very interesting insight to the huge element of the electorate who thinks the Tories are worth voting for.
I voted them in once retain policies in 2019. A fair few of those are yet to be enacted.
I am also floating voter I've voted for all 3 major parties in my life time. "Yes. It's interesting. I do appreciate your candor. | |||
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"We will soon be entering the 13th year of Conservative governance. We have all had some memorable challenges during this time such as Brexit and Covid more recently, which have dominated the headlines along with stories of sleaze. My question, what policies and achievements have the conservative government delivered during their time in power that have been successful? Same sex marriage and the initial stabilisation of the economy after the global crash. More coherent funding of innovation, technology and science, until Brexit. Coherent policies around transition to renewable energy (until recently) and electric vehicles. I'd challenge the last one. Cameron promised a huge drive towards solar power generation when he was campaigning to be elected. Which wasn't the best option for the UK. But at least it was something. And then immediately scrapped it when elected. Also the Tories are still heavily funded by the fossil fuels industry. So are woefully behind in making any meaningful changes. " The shift to renewables has, largely, gone in the right direction and at surprising pace. The brakes have gone on since the speed that their cost has fallen unsettled the fossil fuel industry and scared the treasury. We did not take Germany's oath of going all-in on gas and switching off nuclear or Poland on coal, coal, coal. Of course it could be better, but pretty good. Perhaps accidentally. Difficult to know how much of this is the civil service "blob" actually delivering when it's left alone and how much is how much Government. All of the successful policies are not the ones gaining much publicity so little political interference beyond putting unglamorous legislation in place. | |||
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"We will soon be entering the 13th year of Conservative governance. We have all had some memorable challenges during this time such as Brexit and Covid more recently, which have dominated the headlines along with stories of sleaze. My question, what policies and achievements have the conservative government delivered during their time in power that have been successful? Same sex marriage and the initial stabilisation of the economy after the global crash. More coherent funding of innovation, technology and science, until Brexit. Coherent policies around transition to renewable energy (until recently) and electric vehicles. I'd challenge the last one. Cameron promised a huge drive towards solar power generation when he was campaigning to be elected. Which wasn't the best option for the UK. But at least it was something. And then immediately scrapped it when elected. Also the Tories are still heavily funded by the fossil fuels industry. So are woefully behind in making any meaningful changes. The shift to renewables has, largely, gone in the right direction and at surprising pace. The brakes have gone on since the speed that their cost has fallen unsettled the fossil fuel industry and scared the treasury. We did not take Germany's oath of going all-in on gas and switching off nuclear or Poland on coal, coal, coal. Of course it could be better, but pretty good. Perhaps accidentally. Difficult to know how much of this is the civil service "blob" actually delivering when it's left alone and how much is how much Government. All of the successful policies are not the ones gaining much publicity so little political interference beyond putting unglamorous legislation in place. " Right direction that's seen us import gas have to build interconnectors nd subsidise the entire industry. It'd not gone well at all. We've ended up getting more energy from out europen neighbours when the wind ismt blowing. We were meant to be supply France/ europe net by now. We've actually gone thenother way they out supply us by about 10% We've owed the coal plants pretty much. They come on when wind is blowing. They should have all been turned off by now. We have no energy security. Hence the imports of gas from usa and Qatar and the heavy reliance on Norway. Every one on here who complains of their energy costs only has one thing to blame. The movement to green which the tories have held onto. | |||
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"We will soon be entering the 13th year of Conservative governance. We have all had some memorable challenges during this time such as Brexit and Covid more recently, which have dominated the headlines along with stories of sleaze. My question, what policies and achievements have the conservative government delivered during their time in power that have been successful? Reductions in tax. Raises in personal allowance. Before pandemic.ic bringing fow the deficit. Having a referendum on European Union. Universal credit. Though improvements still required. Joining cptpp Welfare cap. Tax at a record high. Budget deficit fell public services were massively defunded, leading to the service failures and strikes now. Leaving the EU distracting from doing everything else for years with a tiny fraction of the economic cost being made up for by the CPTPP. Universal credit has brought bankruptcy, hardship and chaos to thousands as has the welfare cap. Interesting what you celebrate. Budget deficit fell public services spending increased in all but 1 year
Tax at lows I am afraid. Not sure where you get your info from.
The economic cost doesn't need tk be made up by cptpp we have an FTA
Universal credit has stopped waste and aligned several benefits systems to moderate more efficiently.
Brilliant stuff "Public services spending has not been raised in real terms over nearly all areas, as you are well aware. Why play at being a politician? UK tax burden nowhere near close to all time lows according to ONS and OECD. Nice, easy to read graph for you too. https://www.independent.co.uk/money/uk-s-tax-burden-what-do-the-figures-show-b2097564.html You are a magical thinker who believes that leaving the EU has had no economic impact and the Government's own calculations of tiny benefits at joining an organisation where we already have FTAs with most of them will be hugely profitable. Nothing has to make up for our economic losses. We can just end up worse off, as is the current trajectory and overall plan. Universal Credit has not verifiably done anything other than shift benefits from the disabled and lone parents to those working. Zero information that that any waste has been "stopped". You claim to look at the data, but generally you seem to look to confirm your own biases. | |||
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"We will soon be entering the 13th year of Conservative governance. We have all had some memorable challenges during this time such as Brexit and Covid more recently, which have dominated the headlines along with stories of sleaze. My question, what policies and achievements have the conservative government delivered during their time in power that have been successful? Same sex marriage and the initial stabilisation of the economy after the global crash. More coherent funding of innovation, technology and science, until Brexit. Coherent policies around transition to renewable energy (until recently) and electric vehicles. I'd challenge the last one. Cameron promised a huge drive towards solar power generation when he was campaigning to be elected. Which wasn't the best option for the UK. But at least it was something. And then immediately scrapped it when elected. Also the Tories are still heavily funded by the fossil fuels industry. So are woefully behind in making any meaningful changes. The shift to renewables has, largely, gone in the right direction and at surprising pace. The brakes have gone on since the speed that their cost has fallen unsettled the fossil fuel industry and scared the treasury. We did not take Germany's oath of going all-in on gas and switching off nuclear or Poland on coal, coal, coal. Of course it could be better, but pretty good. Perhaps accidentally. Difficult to know how much of this is the civil service "blob" actually delivering when it's left alone and how much is how much Government. All of the successful policies are not the ones gaining much publicity so little political interference beyond putting unglamorous legislation in place. Right direction that's seen us import gas have to build interconnectors nd subsidise the entire industry. It'd not gone well at all. We've ended up getting more energy from out europen neighbours when the wind ismt blowing. We were meant to be supply France/ europe net by now. We've actually gone thenother way they out supply us by about 10% We've owed the coal plants pretty much. They come on when wind is blowing. They should have all been turned off by now. We have no energy security. Hence the imports of gas from usa and Qatar and the heavy reliance on Norway. Every one on here who complains of their energy costs only has one thing to blame. The movement to green which the tories have held onto. " For someone who claims to be such a clever boy and all about the data, you really don't seem to pay attention to anything that is inconvenient for you. Base load could have been dealt with decades ago with new nuclear. Grid storage only becomes economical once renewable generation hits a certain scale which we are now at. Could have been for seen but wasn't acted on earlier. Renewables are cheaper to install and generation costs lower than fossil fuels. Consumer costs are based on the fossil fuel price. Fossil fuel companies have had plenty of spare cash to have us out of any energy security issues but it is not in their interests to do so and have precious little incentive to when encouraged to continue doing what they're doing. Texas is the biggest generator of renewable energy in the US. Why do you think that is? | |||
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"We will soon be entering the 13th year of Conservative governance. We have all had some memorable challenges during this time such as Brexit and Covid more recently, which have dominated the headlines along with stories of sleaze. My question, what policies and achievements have the conservative government delivered during their time in power that have been successful? Reductions in tax. Raises in personal allowance. Before pandemic.ic bringing fow the deficit. Having a referendum on European Union. Universal credit. Though improvements still required. Joining cptpp Welfare cap. Tax at a record high. Budget deficit fell public services were massively defunded, leading to the service failures and strikes now. Leaving the EU distracting from doing everything else for years with a tiny fraction of the economic cost being made up for by the CPTPP. Universal credit has brought bankruptcy, hardship and chaos to thousands as has the welfare cap. Interesting what you celebrate. Budget deficit fell public services spending increased in all but 1 year
Tax at lows I am afraid. Not sure where you get your info from.
The economic cost doesn't need tk be made up by cptpp we have an FTA
Universal credit has stopped waste and aligned several benefits systems to moderate more efficiently.
Brilliant stuff
Public services spending has not been raised in real terms over nearly all areas, as you are well aware.
Why play at being a politician?
UK tax burden nowhere near close to all time lows according to ONS and OECD.
Nice, easy to read graph for you too.
https://www.independent.co.uk/money/uk-s-tax-burden-what-do-the-figures-show-b2097564.html
You are a magical thinker who believes that leaving the EU has had no economic impact and the Government's own calculations of tiny benefits at joining an organisation where we already have FTAs with most of them will be hugely profitable.
Nothing has to make up for our economic losses. We can just end up worse off, as is the current trajectory and overall plan.
Universal Credit has not verifiably done anything other than shift benefits from the disabled and lone parents to those working. Zero information that that any waste has been "stopped".
You claim to look at the data, but generally you seem to look to confirm your own biases."From 2010. Public spending 697bn. Taking into account cpi inflation. That spending should have reached 833bn in 2019. In 2019 public spending was 884bn. I won't include covid b3cause that would be unfair. Please try and enlighten me to your point on the tax burden. Universal credit has seen the growth in benefit payments drop per annum since it was enacted in 2013 and the organisations shared data. And the total applications. While thee.ployment rate has been high | |||
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"We will soon be entering the 13th year of Conservative governance. We have all had some memorable challenges during this time such as Brexit and Covid more recently, which have dominated the headlines along with stories of sleaze. My question, what policies and achievements have the conservative government delivered during their time in power that have been successful? Same sex marriage and the initial stabilisation of the economy after the global crash. More coherent funding of innovation, technology and science, until Brexit. Coherent policies around transition to renewable energy (until recently) and electric vehicles. I'd challenge the last one. Cameron promised a huge drive towards solar power generation when he was campaigning to be elected. Which wasn't the best option for the UK. But at least it was something. And then immediately scrapped it when elected. Also the Tories are still heavily funded by the fossil fuels industry. So are woefully behind in making any meaningful changes. The shift to renewables has, largely, gone in the right direction and at surprising pace. The brakes have gone on since the speed that their cost has fallen unsettled the fossil fuel industry and scared the treasury. We did not take Germany's oath of going all-in on gas and switching off nuclear or Poland on coal, coal, coal. Of course it could be better, but pretty good. Perhaps accidentally. Difficult to know how much of this is the civil service "blob" actually delivering when it's left alone and how much is how much Government. All of the successful policies are not the ones gaining much publicity so little political interference beyond putting unglamorous legislation in place. Right direction that's seen us import gas have to build interconnectors nd subsidise the entire industry. It'd not gone well at all. We've ended up getting more energy from out europen neighbours when the wind ismt blowing. We were meant to be supply France/ europe net by now. We've actually gone thenother way they out supply us by about 10% We've owed the coal plants pretty much. They come on when wind is blowing. They should have all been turned off by now. We have no energy security. Hence the imports of gas from usa and Qatar and the heavy reliance on Norway. Every one on here who complains of their energy costs only has one thing to blame. The movement to green which the tories have held onto. " Your entire post makes sense, talking about our reliance on fossil fuels. Right to the end where you suddenly pivot and blame the transition to "green". Imagine if we had started the transition to renewables back in the 80s or 90s when the science told us what we were doing the the planet. We'd be free from the fossil fuels industry and from externally set prices. I thinks we're agreeing the government hasn't done well, you want to deepen our reliance on fossil fuels. I want to move for energy independence, cheap electricity and less greenhouse gas emissions. | |||
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"We will soon be entering the 13th year of Conservative governance. We have all had some memorable challenges during this time such as Brexit and Covid more recently, which have dominated the headlines along with stories of sleaze. My question, what policies and achievements have the conservative government delivered during their time in power that have been successful? Same sex marriage and the initial stabilisation of the economy after the global crash. More coherent funding of innovation, technology and science, until Brexit. Coherent policies around transition to renewable energy (until recently) and electric vehicles. I'd challenge the last one. Cameron promised a huge drive towards solar power generation when he was campaigning to be elected. Which wasn't the best option for the UK. But at least it was something. And then immediately scrapped it when elected. Also the Tories are still heavily funded by the fossil fuels industry. So are woefully behind in making any meaningful changes. The shift to renewables has, largely, gone in the right direction and at surprising pace. The brakes have gone on since the speed that their cost has fallen unsettled the fossil fuel industry and scared the treasury. We did not take Germany's oath of going all-in on gas and switching off nuclear or Poland on coal, coal, coal. Of course it could be better, but pretty good. Perhaps accidentally. Difficult to know how much of this is the civil service "blob" actually delivering when it's left alone and how much is how much Government. All of the successful policies are not the ones gaining much publicity so little political interference beyond putting unglamorous legislation in place. Right direction that's seen us import gas have to build interconnectors nd subsidise the entire industry. It'd not gone well at all. We've ended up getting more energy from out europen neighbours when the wind ismt blowing. We were meant to be supply France/ europe net by now. We've actually gone thenother way they out supply us by about 10% We've owed the coal plants pretty much. They come on when wind is blowing. They should have all been turned off by now. We have no energy security. Hence the imports of gas from usa and Qatar and the heavy reliance on Norway. Every one on here who complains of their energy costs only has one thing to blame. The movement to green which the tories have held onto. For someone who claims to be such a clever boy and all about the data, you really don't seem to pay attention to anything that is inconvenient for you. Base load could have been dealt with decades ago with new nuclear. Grid storage only becomes economical once renewable generation hits a certain scale which we are now at. Could have been for seen but wasn't acted on earlier. Renewables are cheaper to install and generation costs lower than fossil fuels. Consumer costs are based on the fossil fuel price. Fossil fuel companies have had plenty of spare cash to have us out of any energy security issues but it is not in their interests to do so and have precious little incentive to when encouraged to continue doing what they're doing. Texas is the biggest generator of renewable energy in the US. Why do you think that is?" Agree I wanted nuclear. A certain party didn't want that I the coalition. And the tories never committed. Grid storage. Where would you have stored it. When would you have commenced giga factories? Can you please prove renewables are cheaper? No one has ever been able to actually prove this to any academic. By the very definition of FOSSIL fuels and NON renewable..they have an interest to find alternatives. How much of texas energy production is re enables? | |||
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"Same sex marriage seems to be the major achievement. Especially seeing as more of them voted against it, than for it. Also getting it over the line in Northern Ireland was a fantastic achievement. Getting it over the line in Northern Ireland was more of a fortunate loophole because of the DUP antics with not taking up power sharing at stormont all powers came back to London … and they took advantage of that where the DUP would have used power of veto to stop it! "This is true. But I will still chalk this down to a positive thing for the country that the Tories contributed towards. With the caveat that the majority of them voted against it. | |||
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"We will soon be entering the 13th year of Conservative governance. We have all had some memorable challenges during this time such as Brexit and Covid more recently, which have dominated the headlines along with stories of sleaze. My question, what policies and achievements have the conservative government delivered during their time in power that have been successful? Same sex marriage and the initial stabilisation of the economy after the global crash. More coherent funding of innovation, technology and science, until Brexit. Coherent policies around transition to renewable energy (until recently) and electric vehicles. I'd challenge the last one. Cameron promised a huge drive towards solar power generation when he was campaigning to be elected. Which wasn't the best option for the UK. But at least it was something. And then immediately scrapped it when elected. Also the Tories are still heavily funded by the fossil fuels industry. So are woefully behind in making any meaningful changes. The shift to renewables has, largely, gone in the right direction and at surprising pace. The brakes have gone on since the speed that their cost has fallen unsettled the fossil fuel industry and scared the treasury. We did not take Germany's oath of going all-in on gas and switching off nuclear or Poland on coal, coal, coal. Of course it could be better, but pretty good. Perhaps accidentally. Difficult to know how much of this is the civil service "blob" actually delivering when it's left alone and how much is how much Government. All of the successful policies are not the ones gaining much publicity so little political interference beyond putting unglamorous legislation in place. Right direction that's seen us import gas have to build interconnectors nd subsidise the entire industry. It'd not gone well at all. We've ended up getting more energy from out europen neighbours when the wind ismt blowing. We were meant to be supply France/ europe net by now. We've actually gone thenother way they out supply us by about 10% We've owed the coal plants pretty much. They come on when wind is blowing. They should have all been turned off by now. We have no energy security. Hence the imports of gas from usa and Qatar and the heavy reliance on Norway. Every one on here who complains of their energy costs only has one thing to blame. The movement to green which the tories have held onto. Your entire post makes sense, talking about our reliance on fossil fuels. Right to the end where you suddenly pivot and blame the transition to "green". Imagine if we had started the transition to renewables back in the 80s or 90s when the science told us what we were doing the the planet. We'd be free from the fossil fuels industry and from externally set prices. I thinks we're agreeing the government hasn't done well, you want to deepen our reliance on fossil fuels. I want to move for energy independence, cheap electricity and less greenhouse gas emissions. " Pivoy on this. The costs of green has come down considerably. You are comparing costs today vs 40 years ago Remember had we have had 50% of green energy available in 1980 those costs would jave been exorbitant. My preference would have been fracking and nuclear to ensure our long term energy supply.cand a slow shift to green. We have seen the disaster of solar panels already 20 years ago solar was the next big thing. Now people are taking panel suppliers to court as they will never see profits | |||
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"We will soon be entering the 13th year of Conservative governance. We have all had some memorable challenges during this time such as Brexit and Covid more recently, which have dominated the headlines along with stories of sleaze. My question, what policies and achievements have the conservative government delivered during their time in power that have been successful? Same sex marriage and the initial stabilisation of the economy after the global crash. More coherent funding of innovation, technology and science, until Brexit. Coherent policies around transition to renewable energy (until recently) and electric vehicles. I'd challenge the last one. Cameron promised a huge drive towards solar power generation when he was campaigning to be elected. Which wasn't the best option for the UK. But at least it was something. And then immediately scrapped it when elected. Also the Tories are still heavily funded by the fossil fuels industry. So are woefully behind in making any meaningful changes. The shift to renewables has, largely, gone in the right direction and at surprising pace. The brakes have gone on since the speed that their cost has fallen unsettled the fossil fuel industry and scared the treasury. We did not take Germany's oath of going all-in on gas and switching off nuclear or Poland on coal, coal, coal. Of course it could be better, but pretty good. Perhaps accidentally. Difficult to know how much of this is the civil service "blob" actually delivering when it's left alone and how much is how much Government. All of the successful policies are not the ones gaining much publicity so little political interference beyond putting unglamorous legislation in place. Right direction that's seen us import gas have to build interconnectors nd subsidise the entire industry. It'd not gone well at all. We've ended up getting more energy from out europen neighbours when the wind ismt blowing. We were meant to be supply France/ europe net by now. We've actually gone thenother way they out supply us by about 10% We've owed the coal plants pretty much. They come on when wind is blowing. They should have all been turned off by now. We have no energy security. Hence the imports of gas from usa and Qatar and the heavy reliance on Norway. Every one on here who complains of their energy costs only has one thing to blame. The movement to green which the tories have held onto. Your entire post makes sense, talking about our reliance on fossil fuels. Right to the end where you suddenly pivot and blame the transition to "green". Imagine if we had started the transition to renewables back in the 80s or 90s when the science told us what we were doing the the planet. We'd be free from the fossil fuels industry and from externally set prices. I thinks we're agreeing the government hasn't done well, you want to deepen our reliance on fossil fuels. I want to move for energy independence, cheap electricity and less greenhouse gas emissions. Pivoy on this. The costs of green has come down considerably. You are comparing costs today vs 40 years ago Remember had we have had 50% of green energy available in 1980 those costs would jave been exorbitant. My preference would have been fracking and nuclear to ensure our long term energy supply.cand a slow shift to green. We have seen the disaster of solar panels already 20 years ago solar was the next big thing. Now people are taking panel suppliers to court as they will never see profits " Fracking, not only catastrophic for the local environment, and for greenhouse gas emissions. Would push us deeper into reliance on fossil fuels and away from energy independence. Yes, Cameron was behind a lot of the push for solar. The real answer is a combination of renewal sources, wind, solar, tidal, wave, hydro, biogas etc. Which if we'd started the investment in the 80s would be so far ahead of where we are now. I do agree with nuclear. I think this would be our best bet in the medium term for electricity generation. | |||
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"We will soon be entering the 13th year of Conservative governance. We have all had some memorable challenges during this time such as Brexit and Covid more recently, which have dominated the headlines along with stories of sleaze. My question, what policies and achievements have the conservative government delivered during their time in power that have been successful? Same sex marriage and the initial stabilisation of the economy after the global crash. More coherent funding of innovation, technology and science, until Brexit. Coherent policies around transition to renewable energy (until recently) and electric vehicles. I'd challenge the last one. Cameron promised a huge drive towards solar power generation when he was campaigning to be elected. Which wasn't the best option for the UK. But at least it was something. And then immediately scrapped it when elected. Also the Tories are still heavily funded by the fossil fuels industry. So are woefully behind in making any meaningful changes. The shift to renewables has, largely, gone in the right direction and at surprising pace. The brakes have gone on since the speed that their cost has fallen unsettled the fossil fuel industry and scared the treasury. We did not take Germany's oath of going all-in on gas and switching off nuclear or Poland on coal, coal, coal. Of course it could be better, but pretty good. Perhaps accidentally. Difficult to know how much of this is the civil service "blob" actually delivering when it's left alone and how much is how much Government. All of the successful policies are not the ones gaining much publicity so little political interference beyond putting unglamorous legislation in place. Right direction that's seen us import gas have to build interconnectors nd subsidise the entire industry. It'd not gone well at all. We've ended up getting more energy from out europen neighbours when the wind ismt blowing. We were meant to be supply France/ europe net by now. We've actually gone thenother way they out supply us by about 10% We've owed the coal plants pretty much. They come on when wind is blowing. They should have all been turned off by now. We have no energy security. Hence the imports of gas from usa and Qatar and the heavy reliance on Norway. Every one on here who complains of their energy costs only has one thing to blame. The movement to green which the tories have held onto. Your entire post makes sense, talking about our reliance on fossil fuels. Right to the end where you suddenly pivot and blame the transition to "green". Imagine if we had started the transition to renewables back in the 80s or 90s when the science told us what we were doing the the planet. We'd be free from the fossil fuels industry and from externally set prices. I thinks we're agreeing the government hasn't done well, you want to deepen our reliance on fossil fuels. I want to move for energy independence, cheap electricity and less greenhouse gas emissions. Pivoy on this. The costs of green has come down considerably. You are comparing costs today vs 40 years ago Remember had we have had 50% of green energy available in 1980 those costs would jave been exorbitant. My preference would have been fracking and nuclear to ensure our long term energy supply.cand a slow shift to green. We have seen the disaster of solar panels already 20 years ago solar was the next big thing. Now people are taking panel suppliers to court as they will never see profits Fracking, not only catastrophic for the local environment, and for greenhouse gas emissions. Would push us deeper into reliance on fossil fuels and away from energy independence. Yes, Cameron was behind a lot of the push for solar. The real answer is a combination of renewal sources, wind, solar, tidal, wave, hydro, biogas etc. Which if we'd started the investment in the 80s would be so far ahead of where we are now. I do agree with nuclear. I think this would be our best bet in the medium term for electricity generation. " But we are importing gas from countries abroad who are mining it via fracking? | |||
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"We will soon be entering the 13th year of Conservative governance. We have all had some memorable challenges during this time such as Brexit and Covid more recently, which have dominated the headlines along with stories of sleaze. My question, what policies and achievements have the conservative government delivered during their time in power that have been successful? Same sex marriage and the initial stabilisation of the economy after the global crash. More coherent funding of innovation, technology and science, until Brexit. Coherent policies around transition to renewable energy (until recently) and electric vehicles. I'd challenge the last one. Cameron promised a huge drive towards solar power generation when he was campaigning to be elected. Which wasn't the best option for the UK. But at least it was something. And then immediately scrapped it when elected. Also the Tories are still heavily funded by the fossil fuels industry. So are woefully behind in making any meaningful changes. The shift to renewables has, largely, gone in the right direction and at surprising pace. The brakes have gone on since the speed that their cost has fallen unsettled the fossil fuel industry and scared the treasury. We did not take Germany's oath of going all-in on gas and switching off nuclear or Poland on coal, coal, coal. Of course it could be better, but pretty good. Perhaps accidentally. Difficult to know how much of this is the civil service "blob" actually delivering when it's left alone and how much is how much Government. All of the successful policies are not the ones gaining much publicity so little political interference beyond putting unglamorous legislation in place. Right direction that's seen us import gas have to build interconnectors nd subsidise the entire industry. It'd not gone well at all. We've ended up getting more energy from out europen neighbours when the wind ismt blowing. We were meant to be supply France/ europe net by now. We've actually gone thenother way they out supply us by about 10% We've owed the coal plants pretty much. They come on when wind is blowing. They should have all been turned off by now. We have no energy security. Hence the imports of gas from usa and Qatar and the heavy reliance on Norway. Every one on here who complains of their energy costs only has one thing to blame. The movement to green which the tories have held onto. Your entire post makes sense, talking about our reliance on fossil fuels. Right to the end where you suddenly pivot and blame the transition to "green". Imagine if we had started the transition to renewables back in the 80s or 90s when the science told us what we were doing the the planet. We'd be free from the fossil fuels industry and from externally set prices. I thinks we're agreeing the government hasn't done well, you want to deepen our reliance on fossil fuels. I want to move for energy independence, cheap electricity and less greenhouse gas emissions. Pivoy on this. The costs of green has come down considerably. You are comparing costs today vs 40 years ago Remember had we have had 50% of green energy available in 1980 those costs would jave been exorbitant. My preference would have been fracking and nuclear to ensure our long term energy supply.cand a slow shift to green. We have seen the disaster of solar panels already 20 years ago solar was the next big thing. Now people are taking panel suppliers to court as they will never see profits Fracking, not only catastrophic for the local environment, and for greenhouse gas emissions. Would push us deeper into reliance on fossil fuels and away from energy independence. Yes, Cameron was behind a lot of the push for solar. The real answer is a combination of renewal sources, wind, solar, tidal, wave, hydro, biogas etc. Which if we'd started the investment in the 80s would be so far ahead of where we are now. I do agree with nuclear. I think this would be our best bet in the medium term for electricity generation. But we are importing gas from countries abroad who are mining it via fracking?" Yeah, it's a shit policy. We need to move away from reliance on fossil fuels. | |||
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"We will soon be entering the 13th year of Conservative governance. We have all had some memorable challenges during this time such as Brexit and Covid more recently, which have dominated the headlines along with stories of sleaze. My question, what policies and achievements have the conservative government delivered during their time in power that have been successful? Same sex marriage and the initial stabilisation of the economy after the global crash. More coherent funding of innovation, technology and science, until Brexit. Coherent policies around transition to renewable energy (until recently) and electric vehicles. I'd challenge the last one. Cameron promised a huge drive towards solar power generation when he was campaigning to be elected. Which wasn't the best option for the UK. But at least it was something. And then immediately scrapped it when elected. Also the Tories are still heavily funded by the fossil fuels industry. So are woefully behind in making any meaningful changes. The shift to renewables has, largely, gone in the right direction and at surprising pace. The brakes have gone on since the speed that their cost has fallen unsettled the fossil fuel industry and scared the treasury. We did not take Germany's oath of going all-in on gas and switching off nuclear or Poland on coal, coal, coal. Of course it could be better, but pretty good. Perhaps accidentally. Difficult to know how much of this is the civil service "blob" actually delivering when it's left alone and how much is how much Government. All of the successful policies are not the ones gaining much publicity so little political interference beyond putting unglamorous legislation in place. Right direction that's seen us import gas have to build interconnectors nd subsidise the entire industry. It'd not gone well at all. We've ended up getting more energy from out europen neighbours when the wind ismt blowing. We were meant to be supply France/ europe net by now. We've actually gone thenother way they out supply us by about 10% We've owed the coal plants pretty much. They come on when wind is blowing. They should have all been turned off by now. We have no energy security. Hence the imports of gas from usa and Qatar and the heavy reliance on Norway. Every one on here who complains of their energy costs only has one thing to blame. The movement to green which the tories have held onto. Your entire post makes sense, talking about our reliance on fossil fuels. Right to the end where you suddenly pivot and blame the transition to "green". Imagine if we had started the transition to renewables back in the 80s or 90s when the science told us what we were doing the the planet. We'd be free from the fossil fuels industry and from externally set prices. I thinks we're agreeing the government hasn't done well, you want to deepen our reliance on fossil fuels. I want to move for energy independence, cheap electricity and less greenhouse gas emissions. Pivoy on this. The costs of green has come down considerably. You are comparing costs today vs 40 years ago Remember had we have had 50% of green energy available in 1980 those costs would jave been exorbitant. My preference would have been fracking and nuclear to ensure our long term energy supply.cand a slow shift to green. We have seen the disaster of solar panels already 20 years ago solar was the next big thing. Now people are taking panel suppliers to court as they will never see profits Fracking, not only catastrophic for the local environment, and for greenhouse gas emissions. Would push us deeper into reliance on fossil fuels and away from energy independence. Yes, Cameron was behind a lot of the push for solar. The real answer is a combination of renewal sources, wind, solar, tidal, wave, hydro, biogas etc. Which if we'd started the investment in the 80s would be so far ahead of where we are now. I do agree with nuclear. I think this would be our best bet in the medium term for electricity generation. But we are importing gas from countries abroad who are mining it via fracking?" Is all about profit and more profit. Unfortunately we have no choice to import gas . We import because it comes cheaper and also because the companies who control the energy sector in UK are note happy in open the hand and let go away the greedy profits that they are winning. The Conservative party have not done nothing good to this country for the last almost 13 years apart from getting more money in their own pocket, protecting the high elite corruption and let this country in the hands of corrupt greedy politicians , corporations and banks I do love this country but we are in serious risk to become a country of very high poverty and in a state of feeling of surviving as the wages are almost only enough for rent/mortage, energy, taxes and not much left for food . In other hand we see the ones encharge of the country making promises and promises and how beneficial they will be for the next generations or we will start see results in 10, 20 , 30 years time . Hiw many of us have growing up listening this same speech? They always talk about the investments for the future but the sad reality is that this speech is like a scam because allows them (politicians, corporations and banks ) living lavish lives in the present while the rest of the population always have lived the present with difficulty and all this because the political and economic system we live is corrupt and not based in the fair chair of the wealth of the country for the all population | |||
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"Things were starting to look ok with Cameron, fairly centre modem socialist like Blair it’s a shame he caved in to ERG and it all went shit since then. " Cameron brought in austerity to crush the most vulnerable in society. Which wasn't great. Back on topic. Is there anything else positive? | |||
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"Things were starting to look ok with Cameron, fairly centre modem socialist like Blair it’s a shame he caved in to ERG and it all went shit since then. Cameron brought in austerity to crush the most vulnerable in society. Which wasn't great. Back on topic. Is there anything else positive?" Yes BRICS soon  | |||
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"We will soon be entering the 13th year of Conservative governance. We have all had some memorable challenges during this time such as Brexit and Covid more recently, which have dominated the headlines along with stories of sleaze. My question, what policies and achievements have the conservative government delivered during their time in power that have been successful? Reductions in tax. Raises in personal allowance. Before pandemic.ic bringing fow the deficit. Having a referendum on European Union. Universal credit. Though improvements still required. Joining cptpp Welfare cap. Tax at a record high. Budget deficit fell public services were massively defunded, leading to the service failures and strikes now. Leaving the EU distracting from doing everything else for years with a tiny fraction of the economic cost being made up for by the CPTPP. Universal credit has brought bankruptcy, hardship and chaos to thousands as has the welfare cap. Interesting what you celebrate. Budget deficit fell public services spending increased in all but 1 year
Tax at lows I am afraid. Not sure where you get your info from.
The economic cost doesn't need tk be made up by cptpp we have an FTA
Universal credit has stopped waste and aligned several benefits systems to moderate more efficiently.
Brilliant stuff
Public services spending has not been raised in real terms over nearly all areas, as you are well aware.
Why play at being a politician?
UK tax burden nowhere near close to all time lows according to ONS and OECD.
Nice, easy to read graph for you too.
https://www.independent.co.uk/money/uk-s-tax-burden-what-do-the-figures-show-b2097564.html
You are a magical thinker who believes that leaving the EU has had no economic impact and the Government's own calculations of tiny benefits at joining an organisation where we already have FTAs with most of them will be hugely profitable.
Nothing has to make up for our economic losses. We can just end up worse off, as is the current trajectory and overall plan.
Universal Credit has not verifiably done anything other than shift benefits from the disabled and lone parents to those working. Zero information that that any waste has been "stopped".
You claim to look at the data, but generally you seem to look to confirm your own biases.
From 2010. Public spending 697bn. Taking into account cpi inflation. That spending should have reached 833bn in 2019. In 2019 public spending was 884bn. I won't include covid b3cause that would be unfair.
Please try and enlighten me to your point on the tax burden.
Universal credit has seen the growth in benefit payments drop per annum since it was enacted in 2013 and the organisations shared data. And the total applications.
While thee.ployment rate has been high
"Try and read the article about the tax burden or tax as a percentage of GDP which you claim is the lowest ever, or are you being a politician again? Your figures imply that there were no public spending cuts after the Labour government left office. Is that what you believe, because you were lauding cutting the deficit previously. How has pay not risen with inflation and how were so many police sacked and new ones rehired (without adequate checks) etc etc Does this include wars in Iraq and Afghanistan? Has that helped UK public services? Benefits payments falling doesn't equate to increased efficiency, does it? It just means reduced spending. The employment rate being high means there should automatically be a reduction in benefits anyway and high employment are associated with high vacancies, reducing the country's opportunity for growth. You've not progressed your argument. | |||
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"We will soon be entering the 13th year of Conservative governance. We have all had some memorable challenges during this time such as Brexit and Covid more recently, which have dominated the headlines along with stories of sleaze. My question, what policies and achievements have the conservative government delivered during their time in power that have been successful? Same sex marriage and the initial stabilisation of the economy after the global crash. More coherent funding of innovation, technology and science, until Brexit. Coherent policies around transition to renewable energy (until recently) and electric vehicles. I'd challenge the last one. Cameron promised a huge drive towards solar power generation when he was campaigning to be elected. Which wasn't the best option for the UK. But at least it was something. And then immediately scrapped it when elected. Also the Tories are still heavily funded by the fossil fuels industry. So are woefully behind in making any meaningful changes. The shift to renewables has, largely, gone in the right direction and at surprising pace. The brakes have gone on since the speed that their cost has fallen unsettled the fossil fuel industry and scared the treasury. We did not take Germany's oath of going all-in on gas and switching off nuclear or Poland on coal, coal, coal. Of course it could be better, but pretty good. Perhaps accidentally. Difficult to know how much of this is the civil service "blob" actually delivering when it's left alone and how much is how much Government. All of the successful policies are not the ones gaining much publicity so little political interference beyond putting unglamorous legislation in place. Right direction that's seen us import gas have to build interconnectors nd subsidise the entire industry. It'd not gone well at all. We've ended up getting more energy from out europen neighbours when the wind ismt blowing. We were meant to be supply France/ europe net by now. We've actually gone thenother way they out supply us by about 10% We've owed the coal plants pretty much. They come on when wind is blowing. They should have all been turned off by now. We have no energy security. Hence the imports of gas from usa and Qatar and the heavy reliance on Norway. Every one on here who complains of their energy costs only has one thing to blame. The movement to green which the tories have held onto. Your entire post makes sense, talking about our reliance on fossil fuels. Right to the end where you suddenly pivot and blame the transition to "green". Imagine if we had started the transition to renewables back in the 80s or 90s when the science told us what we were doing the the planet. We'd be free from the fossil fuels industry and from externally set prices. I thinks we're agreeing the government hasn't done well, you want to deepen our reliance on fossil fuels. I want to move for energy independence, cheap electricity and less greenhouse gas emissions. Pivoy on this. The costs of green has come down considerably. You are comparing costs today vs 40 years ago Remember had we have had 50% of green energy available in 1980 those costs would jave been exorbitant. My preference would have been fracking and nuclear to ensure our long term energy supply.cand a slow shift to green. We have seen the disaster of solar panels already 20 years ago solar was the next big thing. Now people are taking panel suppliers to court as they will never see profits " I am comparing the costs of renewables vs the costs of every form of fossil power generation. You understand economies of scale, right? We've barely had any renewables until the last decade. Why would you compare scaled production to low volume prototypes? How much were the first oil rigs compared to a watermill? There is barely evidence that there is a substantial volume of gas economically viable to frack according to the British Geological Survey. There is no "disaster" in solar panels. The UK is not the obvious location for there use as a primary energy source, but still more economical than fossil fuels. Keep explaining how greater use of fossil fuels makes us more energy independent and they're cheaper as OPEC+ reduces production and after Russia turned off its gas supply. | |||
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"We will soon be entering the 13th year of Conservative governance. We have all had some memorable challenges during this time such as Brexit and Covid more recently, which have dominated the headlines along with stories of sleaze. My question, what policies and achievements have the conservative government delivered during their time in power that have been successful?" 2010 to 2015 was a coalition government. | |||
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"We will soon be entering the 13th year of Conservative governance. We have all had some memorable challenges during this time such as Brexit and Covid more recently, which have dominated the headlines along with stories of sleaze. My question, what policies and achievements have the conservative government delivered during their time in power that have been successful? 2010 to 2015 was a coalition government. " My memory of that coalition is very much a Tory run government Cameron as PM. Clegg was merely part of the process for Tory reign and had no direct influence that I can remember. Did you see thing’s differently? | |||
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"We will soon be entering the 13th year of Conservative governance. We have all had some memorable challenges during this time such as Brexit and Covid more recently, which have dominated the headlines along with stories of sleaze. My question, what policies and achievements have the conservative government delivered during their time in power that have been successful? 2010 to 2015 was a coalition government. My memory of that coalition is very much a Tory run government Cameron as PM. Clegg was merely part of the process for Tory reign and had no direct influence that I can remember. Did you see thing’s differently?" I think that the LibDems took the edge off a lot of things and we're behind the push to renewables. They then got no credit for the positives made for a convenient distraction having had to cave on tuition fees and failed to move away from first past the post (that seems less popular now). They aren't good at politics. | |||
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"We will soon be entering the 13th year of Conservative governance. We have all had some memorable challenges during this time such as Brexit and Covid more recently, which have dominated the headlines along with stories of sleaze. My question, what policies and achievements have the conservative government delivered during their time in power that have been successful? 2010 to 2015 was a coalition government. My memory of that coalition is very much a Tory run government Cameron as PM. Clegg was merely part of the process for Tory reign and had no direct influence that I can remember. Did you see thing’s differently?" It doesn't mater one iota what you remember. The history books show 2010 to 2015 was a coalition government. | |||
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"We will soon be entering the 13th year of Conservative governance. We have all had some memorable challenges during this time such as Brexit and Covid more recently, which have dominated the headlines along with stories of sleaze. My question, what policies and achievements have the conservative government delivered during their time in power that have been successful? 2010 to 2015 was a coalition government. My memory of that coalition is very much a Tory run government Cameron as PM. Clegg was merely part of the process for Tory reign and had no direct influence that I can remember. Did you see thing’s differently? It doesn't mater one iota what you remember. The history books show 2010 to 2015 was a coalition government. " Was there anything positive for the UK from this period? | |||
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"We will soon be entering the 13th year of Conservative governance. We have all had some memorable challenges during this time such as Brexit and Covid more recently, which have dominated the headlines along with stories of sleaze. My question, what policies and achievements have the conservative government delivered during their time in power that have been successful? 2010 to 2015 was a coalition government. My memory of that coalition is very much a Tory run government Cameron as PM. Clegg was merely part of the process for Tory reign and had no direct influence that I can remember. Did you see thing’s differently? It doesn't mater one iota what you remember. The history books show 2010 to 2015 was a coalition government. " What point are you making? That the Conservative party was not in power? | |||
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"We will soon be entering the 13th year of Conservative governance. We have all had some memorable challenges during this time such as Brexit and Covid more recently, which have dominated the headlines along with stories of sleaze. My question, what policies and achievements have the conservative government delivered during their time in power that have been successful? 2010 to 2015 was a coalition government. My memory of that coalition is very much a Tory run government Cameron as PM. Clegg was merely part of the process for Tory reign and had no direct influence that I can remember. Did you see thing’s differently? It doesn't mater one iota what you remember. The history books show 2010 to 2015 was a coalition government. What point are you making? That the Conservative party was not in power?" It was coalition. What point are you trying to make, do you not not understand what a coalition government is? | |||
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"We will soon be entering the 13th year of Conservative governance. We have all had some memorable challenges during this time such as Brexit and Covid more recently, which have dominated the headlines along with stories of sleaze. My question, what policies and achievements have the conservative government delivered during their time in power that have been successful? 2010 to 2015 was a coalition government. My memory of that coalition is very much a Tory run government Cameron as PM. Clegg was merely part of the process for Tory reign and had no direct influence that I can remember. Did you see thing’s differently? It doesn't mater one iota what you remember. The history books show 2010 to 2015 was a coalition government. What point are you making? That the Conservative party was not in power?" They're trying to minimise Tory responsibility during that time. Passing the buck on a technicality. 
or to put it another way..."The LibDems made me do it!" | |||
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"We will soon be entering the 13th year of Conservative governance. We have all had some memorable challenges during this time such as Brexit and Covid more recently, which have dominated the headlines along with stories of sleaze. My question, what policies and achievements have the conservative government delivered during their time in power that have been successful? 2010 to 2015 was a coalition government. My memory of that coalition is very much a Tory run government Cameron as PM. Clegg was merely part of the process for Tory reign and had no direct influence that I can remember. Did you see thing’s differently? It doesn't mater one iota what you remember. The history books show 2010 to 2015 was a coalition government. What point are you making? That the Conservative party was not in power? It was coalition. What point are you trying to make, do you not not understand what a coalition government is?" Was the Conservative party running the country or not? Was it a Conservative Prime Minister with a majority of Cabinet seats and the most seats in Parliament? | |||
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"Disasters. Energy policy( going 50% renewable and not nuclear) Hs2 Not Fracking Sugar taxes. Continual devolution " I disagree with all but the first two. But yes, we needed to go nuclear, ideally small reactors distributed across the country as a buffer, then look into pure renewable. Hs2 has become what everyone said it would be, a waste of money. | |||
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"We will soon be entering the 13th year of Conservative governance. We have all had some memorable challenges during this time such as Brexit and Covid more recently, which have dominated the headlines along with stories of sleaze. My question, what policies and achievements have the conservative government delivered during their time in power that have been successful? 2010 to 2015 was a coalition government. My memory of that coalition is very much a Tory run government Cameron as PM. Clegg was merely part of the process for Tory reign and had no direct influence that I can remember. Did you see thing’s differently? It doesn't mater one iota what you remember. The history books show 2010 to 2015 was a coalition government. What point are you making? That the Conservative party was not in power? They're trying to minimise Tory responsibility during that time. Passing the buck on a technicality.
or to put it another way..."The LibDems made me do it!" "Except, the LibDems made them do the positive things which were then appropriated as Conservative ideas. The Tory narrative clearly won, regardless. | |||
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"We will soon be entering the 13th year of Conservative governance. We have all had some memorable challenges during this time such as Brexit and Covid more recently, which have dominated the headlines along with stories of sleaze. My question, what policies and achievements have the conservative government delivered during their time in power that have been successful? 2010 to 2015 was a coalition government. My memory of that coalition is very much a Tory run government Cameron as PM. Clegg was merely part of the process for Tory reign and had no direct influence that I can remember. Did you see thing’s differently? It doesn't mater one iota what you remember. The history books show 2010 to 2015 was a coalition government. What point are you making? That the Conservative party was not in power? It was coalition. What point are you trying to make, do you not not understand what a coalition government is? Was the Conservative party running the country or not? Was it a Conservative Prime Minister with a majority of Cabinet seats and the most seats in Parliament?" Is not and never will be conservatives fault , the fault is from Labour party and will always be because they they haven't been running the country for almost 13 years and people will never forgive and will forget that and for that reazon in the next elections people will be voting Tory's | |||
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"UK has considerably lower Carbon emissions per capita than the EU with a considerably higher population density. By that I mean the number of persons per sq Km, not how dense each individual may be." | |||
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" Is not and never will be conservatives fault , the fault is from Labour party and will always be because they they haven't been running the country for almost 13 years and people will never forgive and will forget that and for that reazon in the next elections people will be voting Tory's "The Conservatives have the immense advantage of a more attractive name. It sounds like 'I get to keep what I've got'. Labour sounds like 'We are going to have to slog' and only a handful admit to wanting to do any of that other than through necessity. The tories know they can sell a dream, even though everyone knows that a dream is all it will ever be for most normal people. Everyone knows that Labour's dream will have to be paid for. Why people can't work out that the same applies to the tory dream, I cannot fathom out. | |||
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"We will soon be entering the 13th year of Conservative governance. We have all had some memorable challenges during this time such as Brexit and Covid more recently, which have dominated the headlines along with stories of sleaze. My question, what policies and achievements have the conservative government delivered during their time in power that have been successful? Reductions in tax. Raises in personal allowance. Before pandemic.ic bringing fow the deficit. Having a referendum on European Union. Universal credit. Though improvements still required. Joining cptpp Welfare cap. " Waiting on that UK wide referendum to join the CPTPP, a trade partnership more relevant to Pacific rim countries than it is for the UK.  | |||
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"We will soon be entering the 13th year of Conservative governance. We have all had some memorable challenges during this time such as Brexit and Covid more recently, which have dominated the headlines along with stories of sleaze. My question, what policies and achievements have the conservative government delivered during their time in power that have been successful? Reductions in tax. Raises in personal allowance. Before pandemic.ic bringing fow the deficit. Having a referendum on European Union. Universal credit. Though improvements still required. Joining cptpp Welfare cap. Waiting on that UK wide referendum to join the CPTPP, a trade partnership more relevant to Pacific rim countries than it is for the UK. "If we are having a referendum on trade deals then there are around 70 or so referendums to have first including the one with the EU before getting to the CPTPP one | |||
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" Except, the LibDems made them do the positive things which were then appropriated as Conservative ideas. The Tory narrative clearly won, regardless." Of which same sex marriage was the classic example…. Lib Dem politics… got thru because of Labour votes…. And yet the tories got the credit! | |||
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" Except, the LibDems made them do the positive things which were then appropriated as Conservative ideas. The Tory narrative clearly won, regardless. Of which same sex marriage was the classic example…. Lib Dem politics… got thru because of Labour votes…. And yet the tories got the credit! " But if you get what you want, who cares? | |||
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" Except, the LibDems made them do the positive things which were then appropriated as Conservative ideas. The Tory narrative clearly won, regardless. Of which same sex marriage was the classic example…. Lib Dem politics… got thru because of Labour votes…. And yet the tories got the credit! But if you get what you want, who cares?" Because you then get multiples of what you don't want. The LibDema aren't very good at politics. As I said. | |||
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" Is not and never will be conservatives fault , the fault is from Labour party and will always be because they they haven't been running the country for almost 13 years and people will never forgive and will forget that and for that reazon in the next elections people will be voting Tory's
The Conservatives have the immense advantage of a more attractive name. It sounds like 'I get to keep what I've got'. Labour sounds like 'We are going to have to slog' and only a handful admit to wanting to do any of that other than through necessity.
The tories know they can sell a dream, even though everyone knows that a dream is all it will ever be for most normal people.
Everyone knows that Labour's dream will have to be paid for. Why people can't work out that the same applies to the tory dream, I cannot fathom out."I can see very soon, easily Tory's requesting to join BRICS . Myself i wouldn't be surprised if happens , because Tory's are driven for money no matter from where comes from or what name have , as long it put their bank account numbers up .
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"I mean of you are a billionaire i guess the tories have been fucking brilliant for you. " *Billionaire sociopath. | |||
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