FabSwingers.com forum: Donald Trump

By *oofy321 OP Man
over a year ago

moon base zero

Oh what a beautiful morning

Oh what a beautiful day

That fat orange bastard

Is going away

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

About time.

Watch the maga nuts go mad though

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By *traddle VariousWoman
over a year ago

Salford

gift that keeps on giving trump is

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is he? Not seen the news yet

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By *elvet RopeMan
over a year ago

by the big field

Not sure he’ll do any time, particularly for that…hopefully fuck up his chances of running again though

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

He will be found guilty. no time served though, and that alone will thank god stop him from running again.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Did you see his statement re the indictment (btw he cannot spell):

“These Thugs and Radical Left Monsters have just INDICATED the 45th President of the United States of America, and the leading Republican Candidate, by far, for the 2024 Nomination for President. THIS IS AN ATTACK ON OUR COUNTRY THE LIKES OF WHICH HAS NEVER BEEN SEEN BEFORE. IT IS LIKEWISE A CONTINUING ATTACK ON OUR ONCE FREE AND FAIR ELECTIONS. THE USA IS NOW A THIRD WORLD NATION, A NATION IN SERIOUS DECLINE. SO SAD!”

He likes his capital letters too!

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By *elvet RopeMan
over a year ago

by the big field

"Did you see his statement re the indictment (btw he cannot spell):

He likes his capital letters too!"

Is that the free and fair elections Russia interfered in?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The defamation case with the reporter could have an interesting outcome for him too

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Did you see his statement re the indictment (btw he cannot spell):

He likes his capital letters too!"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Might be a standoff in Florida. Desantis said he won't extradite Trump to NY.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Might be a standoff in Florida. Desantis said he won't extradite Trump to NY."

Trump's attorneys have already said they'd cooperate. Pointless grovelly gesture from Desantis

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

"Did you see his statement re the indictment (btw he cannot spell):

He likes his capital letters too!"

Lol, imagine thinking you'll vote for someone who puts this kind of nonsense out into the world.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Did you see his statement re the indictment (btw he cannot spell):

He likes his capital letters too!"

He is unhinged,

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"Might be a standoff in Florida. Desantis said he won't extradite Trump to NY."

That’s fine… Florida might not extradite him… but the other 48 states will!

So unless he plans to live in exile, or Florida decides to declare itself a republic.. it’s a pointless exercise

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Might be a standoff in Florida. Desantis said he won't extradite Trump to NY.

That’s fine… Florida might not extradite him… but the other 48 states will!

So unless he plans to live in exile, or Florida decides to declare itself a republic.. it’s a pointless exercise "

Plus Trump's rhetoric is that he's going to beat New York. It's what he's building on.

Unless we get more January 6 style "and he bravely ran away" stuff

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Might be a standoff in Florida. Desantis said he won't extradite Trump to NY.

That’s fine… Florida might not extradite him… but the other 48 states will!

So unless he plans to live in exile, or Florida decides to declare itself a republic.. it’s a pointless exercise "
lol not all 48. You forget 25 are red too.

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By *iman2100Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Might be a standoff in Florida. Desantis said he won't extradite Trump to NY.

That’s fine… Florida might not extradite him… but the other 48 states will!

So unless he plans to live in exile, or Florida decides to declare itself a republic.. it’s a pointless exercise lol not all 48. You forget 25 are red too."

If Trump does not attend court he may be found guilty in absentia. He will then be a wanted criminal. De Santis may then find himself running for President under the cloud of a prosecution for harbouring a convicted criminal. How can he travel round the country avoiding states that would arrest him?

Look at the damage has Trump done to the USA! Will the Republicans ever see the damage being done to their country by this man and his cult followers?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Might be a standoff in Florida. Desantis said he won't extradite Trump to NY.

That’s fine… Florida might not extradite him… but the other 48 states will!

So unless he plans to live in exile, or Florida decides to declare itself a republic.. it’s a pointless exercise lol not all 48. You forget 25 are red too.

Look at the damage has Trump done to the USA! Will the Republicans ever see the damage being done to their country by this man and his cult followers? "
Muller investigation nothing Ukraine investigation Nothing. Porn star payout indictment. He is going to spin the indictment and galvanize the base even more.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Might be a standoff in Florida. Desantis said he won't extradite Trump to NY.

That’s fine… Florida might not extradite him… but the other 48 states will!

So unless he plans to live in exile, or Florida decides to declare itself a republic.. it’s a pointless exercise lol not all 48. You forget 25 are red too.

Look at the damage has Trump done to the USA! Will the Republicans ever see the damage being done to their country by this man and his cult followers? Muller investigation nothing Ukraine investigation Nothing. Porn star payout indictment. He is going to spin the indictment and galvanize the base even more."

He will destroy the Republican Party

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By *iman2100Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Might be a standoff in Florida. Desantis said he won't extradite Trump to NY.

That’s fine… Florida might not extradite him… but the other 48 states will!

So unless he plans to live in exile, or Florida decides to declare itself a republic.. it’s a pointless exercise lol not all 48. You forget 25 are red too.

Muller was not nothing, he had his hands tied. He did not exonerate Trump but was not allowed to recommend prosecution either.

I wonder, if there was no collusion, why on earth was there so much communication and so many connections between Trump and the Russians? Why Trump rather believe Putin over the CIA, FBI, etc? Still he is innocent until found guilty.

Trump will spin this though. His followers will believe nothing bad about him. For them he is the Messiah and there are none so blind as those who will not see.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"Might be a standoff in Florida. Desantis said he won't extradite Trump to NY.

That’s fine… Florida might not extradite him… but the other 48 states will!

So unless he plans to live in exile, or Florida decides to declare itself a republic.. it’s a pointless exercise lol not all 48. You forget 25 are red too.

Actually it will be interesting if all the inditements are just relating to stormy daniels, or whether they also cover other women he is alleged to have paid off such as Karen mcdougal

Easy to demonise the porn star, not so easy if it’s more than 1!

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By *igNick1381Man
over a year ago

BRIDGEND

Morons have been wailing on about trump going to prison since he was elected

Pathetic

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By *iman2100Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Morons have been wailing on about trump going to prison since he was elected

Pathetic "

Trump has been indicted in New York on criminal charges. He is currently also being investigated on other State (e.g. Georgia) and Federal criminal charges. Those are the facts. It is therefore not "moronic" to "wail" about him going to Prison should he be found guilty.

What is moronic is to wail about Hunter Biden's laptop. It was abandoned in a Delaware computer store in 2019. Since October 2020 the FBI have had a full copy of all the data on it and no charges have been brought. Despite this Republicans, Fox News and others have run almost weekly shock stories on what it contains. Hunter Biden is not, and never was, the President. Donald Trump was. Trump's position is current so it is not pathetic to discuss it.

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

Looks like he is on his way to New York.

Can’t help think this may backfire

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Looks like he is on his way to New York.

Can’t help think this may backfire "
Guess we have to wait and see. People are going nuts on local talk radio.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

"Looks like he is on his way to New York.

Can’t help think this may backfire Guess we have to wait and see. People are going nuts on local talk radio."

People always go nuts on local talk radio. People here lose their shit about the new road layout and traffic lights.

But I am interested in what the outraged element are saying. Do you on.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

Do go on...

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By *uddy laneMan
over a year ago

dudley

the charges against Mr trump are a big nothing burger, and when Mr trump becomes the potus again the laptop will be produced.

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma

"Looks like he is on his way to New York.

Can’t help think this may backfire Guess we have to wait and see. People are going nuts on local talk radio."

I tell you who else will be going nuts, Greta Thunberg! does Trump really need a plane that big

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

This charge is the least of his worries… the Georgia case is going to be the main event!

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma

"This charge is the least of his worries… the Georgia case is going to be the main event! "

I’ve asked you this before, why? It is a nightmare to keep up with

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

"Looks like he is on his way to New York.

Can’t help think this may backfire Guess we have to wait and see. People are going nuts on local talk radio.

I tell you who else will be going nuts, Greta Thunberg! does Trump really need a plane that big

It does take the piss a little

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

"This charge is the least of his worries… the Georgia case is going to be the main event!

I’ve asked you this before, why? It is a nightmare to keep up with "

The Georgia case is the one about the recorded phonecall where he asked the guy to find him some votes.

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma

"This charge is the least of his worries… the Georgia case is going to be the main event!

I’ve asked you this before, why? It is a nightmare to keep up with

The Georgia case is the one about the recorded phonecall where he asked the guy to find him some votes."

oh yes!

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By *illi3736Woman
over a year ago

Glasgow

The really scary thing is that millions of people still believe that he is a patriotic and learned man who is truly trying to make America great again.

Whereas in reality he is a cowardly con man willing to sell the country out to enrich himself .

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By *enny PR9TV/TS
over a year ago

Southport

" The really scary thing is that millions of people still believe that he is a patriotic and learned man who is truly trying to make America great again.

Whereas in reality he is a cowardly con man willing to sell the country out to enrich himself . "

Or in other words 'a Republican'.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

Oooh… 34 felony’s… it looks like it’s not just the stormy daniels hush money.. they are going after him on everything, the “catch and kill” agreement he had with the national enquirer and David pecker to kill and not publish any stories.. so Karen mcdougal, the trump doorman, ect…..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" The really scary thing is that millions of people still believe that he is a patriotic and learned man who is truly trying to make America great again.

Whereas in reality he is a cowardly con man willing to sell the country out to enrich himself .

Or in other words 'a Republican'.

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See you play into that narrative. Not everyone that votes Republican falls into your perception.

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By *ananas57Couple
over a year ago

lake ariel

Stormy has to pay Trump over $100,000 back because she lost a suit against him

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Stormy has to pay Trump over $100,000 back because she lost a suit against him

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lol it's crazy

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By *ananas57Couple
over a year ago

lake ariel

So are the charges against him

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The Lincoln Project is right about Trump.

Until the republicans disavow him and his followers, they will never be able to escape his thrall.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The Lincoln Project is right about Trump.

Until the republicans disavow him and his followers, they will never be able to escape his thrall.

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He can easily run independent and split the votes

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"The Lincoln Project is right about Trump.

Until the republicans disavow him and his followers, they will never be able to escape his thrall.

He can easily run independent and split the votes "

I hope he does

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By *enny PR9TV/TS
over a year ago

Southport

"The Lincoln Project is right about Trump.

Until the republicans disavow him and his followers, they will never be able to escape his thrall.

He can easily run independent and split the votes

I hope he does

With MTG as his running mate, now that would be truly something to behold.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"The Lincoln Project is right about Trump.

Until the republicans disavow him and his followers, they will never be able to escape his thrall.

He can easily run independent and split the votes

I hope he does

With MTG as his running mate, now that would be truly something to behold.

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma

The consequences from indicting Trump is going to be interesting for any future POTUS, or is it?

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By *iman2100Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

"The Lincoln Project is right about Trump.

Until the republicans disavow him and his followers, they will never be able to escape his thrall.

He can easily run independent and split the votes "

That is true, but there will come a time when the real Republicans will have to seriously look at themselves.

They will have to decide whether or not they are a party set up to do the best for the people of the country or simply to seek power for a chosen few at any price.

Sadly, at the present moment, the latter seems to be the case especially when you get Kevin McCarthy making making deals with the devils, MTG, Matt Gaetz, Hawley, etc., simply to stay in power.

It is but a short step to see insurrection and taking power by force, altering the Constitution to allow them to maintain power indefinitely (As they are currently Gerrymandering in the States).

We have already seen how they whitewashed an insurrection and did not blink when their President said he wanted to change the Constitution so he could be President for life. What price freedom then?

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

"The consequences from indicting Trump is going to be interesting for any future POTUS, or is it?"

Only if they engage in criminal activity.

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma

"The consequences from indicting Trump is going to be interesting for any future POTUS, or is it?

Only if they engage in criminal activity. "

It will run deeper than what's on the surface in my opinion. The landscape of US politics has now been changed.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

"The consequences from indicting Trump is going to be interesting for any future POTUS, or is it?

Only if they engage in criminal activity.

It will run deeper than what's on the surface in my opinion. The landscape of US politics has now been changed."

If it encourages presidents and former presidents to stop breaking the law. Seems like a positive thing.

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By *astandFeistyCouple
over a year ago

Bournemouth

"The consequences from indicting Trump is going to be interesting for any future POTUS, or is it?

Only if they engage in criminal activity.

It will run deeper than what's on the surface in my opinion. The landscape of US politics has now been changed.

If it encourages presidents and former presidents to stop breaking the law. Seems like a positive thing. "

If the USA really want to clean their act up then there's many more former presidents than Trump they should be looking at.

Otherwise this just smells of a witch hunt

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma

"The consequences from indicting Trump is going to be interesting for any future POTUS, or is it?

Only if they engage in criminal activity.

It will run deeper than what's on the surface in my opinion. The landscape of US politics has now been changed.

If it encourages presidents and former presidents to stop breaking the law. Seems like a positive thing. "

other presidents have broken the law and if you consider where Trump is today it is going to be a rather dirty and bumpy future for any POTUS.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

"The consequences from indicting Trump is going to be interesting for any future POTUS, or is it?

Only if they engage in criminal activity.

It will run deeper than what's on the surface in my opinion. The landscape of US politics has now been changed.

If it encourages presidents and former presidents to stop breaking the law. Seems like a positive thing.

If the USA really want to clean their act up then there's many more former presidents than Trump they should be looking at.

Otherwise this just smells of a witch hunt "

Anyone breaking the law should be dealt with in the legal system. In my opinion.

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By *astandFeistyCouple
over a year ago

Bournemouth

"The consequences from indicting Trump is going to be interesting for any future POTUS, or is it?

Only if they engage in criminal activity.

It will run deeper than what's on the surface in my opinion. The landscape of US politics has now been changed.

If it encourages presidents and former presidents to stop breaking the law. Seems like a positive thing.

If the USA really want to clean their act up then there's many more former presidents than Trump they should be looking at.

Otherwise this just smells of a witch hunt

Anyone breaking the law should be dealt with in the legal system. In my opinion. "

Of course. Do you think the US so be going after former presidents aswell as Trump?

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

"The consequences from indicting Trump is going to be interesting for any future POTUS, or is it?

Only if they engage in criminal activity.

It will run deeper than what's on the surface in my opinion. The landscape of US politics has now been changed.

If it encourages presidents and former presidents to stop breaking the law. Seems like a positive thing.

If the USA really want to clean their act up then there's many more former presidents than Trump they should be looking at.

Otherwise this just smells of a witch hunt

Anyone breaking the law should be dealt with in the legal system. In my opinion.

Of course. Do you think the US so be going after former presidents aswell as Trump?"

Is or should be?

No clue if they will.

They definitely should. In my opinion.

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By *astandFeistyCouple
over a year ago

Bournemouth

"The consequences from indicting Trump is going to be interesting for any future POTUS, or is it?

Only if they engage in criminal activity.

It will run deeper than what's on the surface in my opinion. The landscape of US politics has now been changed.

If it encourages presidents and former presidents to stop breaking the law. Seems like a positive thing.

If the USA really want to clean their act up then there's many more former presidents than Trump they should be looking at.

Otherwise this just smells of a witch hunt

Anyone breaking the law should be dealt with in the legal system. In my opinion.

Of course. Do you think the US so be going after former presidents aswell as Trump?

Is or should be?

No clue if they will.

They definitely should. In my opinion. "

Apologies, was should be. We agree on that.

I wonder why they don't.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

"The consequences from indicting Trump is going to be interesting for any future POTUS, or is it?

Only if they engage in criminal activity.

It will run deeper than what's on the surface in my opinion. The landscape of US politics has now been changed.

If it encourages presidents and former presidents to stop breaking the law. Seems like a positive thing.

If the USA really want to clean their act up then there's many more former presidents than Trump they should be looking at.

Otherwise this just smells of a witch hunt

Anyone breaking the law should be dealt with in the legal system. In my opinion.

Of course. Do you think the US so be going after former presidents aswell as Trump?

Is or should be?

No clue if they will.

They definitely should. In my opinion.

Apologies, was should be. We agree on that.

I wonder why they don't."

No idea. My guesses would be that the American legal system is political. And maybe Trump just is just more brazen and open with his crimes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The consequences from indicting Trump is going to be interesting for any future POTUS, or is it?

Only if they engage in criminal activity.

It will run deeper than what's on the surface in my opinion. The landscape of US politics has now been changed.

If it encourages presidents and former presidents to stop breaking the law. Seems like a positive thing.

If the USA really want to clean their act up then there's many more former presidents than Trump they should be looking at.

Otherwise this just smells of a witch hunt

Anyone breaking the law should be dealt with in the legal system. In my opinion.

Of course. Do you think the US so be going after former presidents aswell as Trump?

Is or should be?

No clue if they will.

They definitely should. In my opinion.

Apologies, was should be. We agree on that.

I wonder why they don't.

No idea. My guesses would be that the American legal system is political. And maybe Trump just is just more brazen and open with his crimes."
The case parallels the John Edwards case. Where a presidential candidate paid off his pregnant mistress.

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma

"The consequences from indicting Trump is going to be interesting for any future POTUS, or is it?

Only if they engage in criminal activity.

It will run deeper than what's on the surface in my opinion. The landscape of US politics has now been changed.

If it encourages presidents and former presidents to stop breaking the law. Seems like a positive thing.

If the USA really want to clean their act up then there's many more former presidents than Trump they should be looking at.

Otherwise this just smells of a witch hunt

Anyone breaking the law should be dealt with in the legal system. In my opinion. "

And when they’re not, what happens? Trump being the first doesn’t fill me with surprise, however nobody else going before him smacks of hypocrisy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The consequences from indicting Trump is going to be interesting for any future POTUS, or is it?

Only if they engage in criminal activity.

It will run deeper than what's on the surface in my opinion. The landscape of US politics has now been changed.

If it encourages presidents and former presidents to stop breaking the law. Seems like a positive thing.

If the USA really want to clean their act up then there's many more former presidents than Trump they should be looking at.

Otherwise this just smells of a witch hunt

Anyone breaking the law should be dealt with in the legal system. In my opinion.

And when they’re not, what happens? Trump being the first doesn’t fill me with surprise, however nobody else going before him smacks of hypocrisy."
That and it going to create more division for future presidents. No one I know cares if he paid a pornstar. People will want revenge. It's going to be a wild ride in 2024.

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma

"The consequences from indicting Trump is going to be interesting for any future POTUS, or is it?

Only if they engage in criminal activity.

It will run deeper than what's on the surface in my opinion. The landscape of US politics has now been changed.

If it encourages presidents and former presidents to stop breaking the law. Seems like a positive thing.

If the USA really want to clean their act up then there's many more former presidents than Trump they should be looking at.

Otherwise this just smells of a witch hunt

Anyone breaking the law should be dealt with in the legal system. In my opinion.

And when they’re not, what happens? Trump being the first doesn’t fill me with surprise, however nobody else going before him smacks of hypocrisy. That and it going to create more division for future presidents. No one I know cares if he paid a pornstar. People will want revenge. It's going to be a wild ride in 2024. "

Exactly, the landscape is now forever changed and it wont be for the better.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The consequences from indicting Trump is going to be interesting for any future POTUS, or is it?

Only if they engage in criminal activity.

It will run deeper than what's on the surface in my opinion. The landscape of US politics has now been changed.

If it encourages presidents and former presidents to stop breaking the law. Seems like a positive thing.

If the USA really want to clean their act up then there's many more former presidents than Trump they should be looking at.

Otherwise this just smells of a witch hunt

Anyone breaking the law should be dealt with in the legal system. In my opinion.

Exactly, the landscape is now forever changed and it wont be for the better. "
Not from what I am hearing. Every president from now on can be brought up on charges for anything remotely criminal. People around here are mad. 2024 is going to be chaos.

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

"The consequences from indicting Trump is going to be interesting for any future POTUS, or is it?

Only if they engage in criminal activity.

It will run deeper than what's on the surface in my opinion. The landscape of US politics has now been changed.

If it encourages presidents and former presidents to stop breaking the law. Seems like a positive thing.

If the USA really want to clean their act up then there's many more former presidents than Trump they should be looking at.

Otherwise this just smells of a witch hunt

Anyone breaking the law should be dealt with in the legal system. In my opinion.

Exactly, the landscape is now forever changed and it wont be for the better. Not from what I am hearing. Every president from now on can be brought up on charges for anything remotely criminal. People around here are mad. 2024 is going to be chaos."

I'd say 2024 is just the beginning and will continue until something is actually done correctly might be less but it's a long way to go

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma

"The consequences from indicting Trump is going to be interesting for any future POTUS, or is it?

Only if they engage in criminal activity.

It will run deeper than what's on the surface in my opinion. The landscape of US politics has now been changed.

If it encourages presidents and former presidents to stop breaking the law. Seems like a positive thing.

If the USA really want to clean their act up then there's many more former presidents than Trump they should be looking at.

Otherwise this just smells of a witch hunt

Anyone breaking the law should be dealt with in the legal system. In my opinion.

That is what I mean, people will want everything looked into, they will want to see arrests and if they don't get them I can see it becoming ugly

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

"The consequences from indicting Trump is going to be interesting for any future POTUS, or is it?

Only if they engage in criminal activity.

It will run deeper than what's on the surface in my opinion. The landscape of US politics has now been changed.

If it encourages presidents and former presidents to stop breaking the law. Seems like a positive thing.

If the USA really want to clean their act up then there's many more former presidents than Trump they should be looking at.

Otherwise this just smells of a witch hunt

Anyone breaking the law should be dealt with in the legal system. In my opinion.

Why is this bad?

Surely former presidents shouldn't be above the law.

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By *oubleswing2019Man
over a year ago

Colchester

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By *oubleswing2019Man
over a year ago

Colchester

""No one I know cares if he paid a pornstar." "

I find this baffling and deeply shocking to be honest.

He's a President. He should be expected and demanded by the whole general public to be held to a high standard of probity in office.

If we do not hold our politicians to high standards, then we effectively sanction abysmal behaviour via apathy.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

""No one I know cares if he paid a pornstar."

I find this baffling and deeply shocking to be honest.

He's a President. He should be expected and demanded by the whole general public to be held to a high standard of probity in office.

If we do not hold our politicians to high standards, then we effectively sanction abysmal behaviour via apathy."

I don't care if he paid a pornstar, although I wish standards in public office were higher.

I care that he seems to have falsified business records for at least the potential to lie about his taxes. Which is what the charges relate to.

I suspect some of his base, as they lean so heavily on the Evangelical base, should care about it.

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma

"The consequences from indicting Trump is going to be interesting for any future POTUS, or is it?

Only if they engage in criminal activity.

It will run deeper than what's on the surface in my opinion. The landscape of US politics has now been changed.

If it encourages presidents and former presidents to stop breaking the law. Seems like a positive thing.

If the USA really want to clean their act up then there's many more former presidents than Trump they should be looking at.

Otherwise this just smells of a witch hunt

Anyone breaking the law should be dealt with in the legal system. In my opinion.

Why is this bad?

Surely former presidents shouldn't be above the law."

They have been until now, why? Which provides the reason for anger and chaos.

Choices create consequences, choose to make an example, prepare for the consequence.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

"The consequences from indicting Trump is going to be interesting for any future POTUS, or is it?

Only if they engage in criminal activity.

It will run deeper than what's on the surface in my opinion. The landscape of US politics has now been changed.

If it encourages presidents and former presidents to stop breaking the law. Seems like a positive thing.

If the USA really want to clean their act up then there's many more former presidents than Trump they should be looking at.

Otherwise this just smells of a witch hunt

Anyone breaking the law should be dealt with in the legal system. In my opinion.

Why is this bad?

Surely former presidents shouldn't be above the law.

They have been until now, why? Which provides the reason for anger and chaos.

Choices create consequences, choose to make an example, prepare for the consequence. "

Yeah, if people are causing chaos because a former president is on trial for crimes he committed. What should they do, just let him off?

I don't see that any civilised society should allow their former leaders to do business illegally.

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma

"The consequences from indicting Trump is going to be interesting for any future POTUS, or is it?

Only if they engage in criminal activity.

It will run deeper than what's on the surface in my opinion. The landscape of US politics has now been changed.

If it encourages presidents and former presidents to stop breaking the law. Seems like a positive thing.

If the USA really want to clean their act up then there's many more former presidents than Trump they should be looking at.

Otherwise this just smells of a witch hunt

Anyone breaking the law should be dealt with in the legal system. In my opinion.

Why is this bad?

Surely former presidents shouldn't be above the law.

They have been until now, why? Which provides the reason for anger and chaos.

Choices create consequences, choose to make an example, prepare for the consequence.

Yeah, if people are causing chaos because a former president is on trial for crimes he committed. What should they do, just let him off?

I don't see that any civilised society should allow their former leaders to do business illegally. "

They have let off before and now they don't, you can see that?

If you step away from the rule book and see it through the eyes of people who feel that this is a witch hunt, then the witch hunt does not simply stop here. Hence anger and chaos.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The consequences from indicting Trump is going to be interesting for any future POTUS, or is it?

Only if they engage in criminal activity.

It will run deeper than what's on the surface in my opinion. The landscape of US politics has now been changed.

If it encourages presidents and former presidents to stop breaking the law. Seems like a positive thing.

If the USA really want to clean their act up then there's many more former presidents than Trump they should be looking at.

Otherwise this just smells of a witch hunt

Anyone breaking the law should be dealt with in the legal system. In my opinion.

Why is this bad?

Surely former presidents shouldn't be above the law.

They have been until now, why? Which provides the reason for anger and chaos.

Choices create consequences, choose to make an example, prepare for the consequence.

Yeah, if people are causing chaos because a former president is on trial for crimes he committed. What should they do, just let him off?

I don't see that any civilised society should allow their former leaders to do business illegally.

They have let off before and now they don't, you can see that?

If you step away from the rule book and see it through the eyes of people who feel that this is a witch hunt, then the witch hunt does not simply stop here. Hence anger and chaos."
John Edwards was indicted for the same thing. Not guilty. Now does anyone think that Trump can get a fair trial in NYC ? I don't. What jury pool can be impartial. None.

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By *astandFeistyCouple
over a year ago

Bournemouth

"The consequences from indicting Trump is going to be interesting for any future POTUS, or is it?

Only if they engage in criminal activity.

It will run deeper than what's on the surface in my opinion. The landscape of US politics has now been changed.

If it encourages presidents and former presidents to stop breaking the law. Seems like a positive thing.

If the USA really want to clean their act up then there's many more former presidents than Trump they should be looking at.

Otherwise this just smells of a witch hunt

Anyone breaking the law should be dealt with in the legal system. In my opinion.

Why is this bad?

Surely former presidents shouldn't be above the law.

They have been until now, why? Which provides the reason for anger and chaos.

Choices create consequences, choose to make an example, prepare for the consequence.

Yeah, if people are causing chaos because a former president is on trial for crimes he committed. What should they do, just let him off?

I don't see that any civilised society should allow their former leaders to do business illegally.

They have let off before and now they don't, you can see that?

If you step away from the rule book and see it through the eyes of people who feel that this is a witch hunt, then the witch hunt does not simply stop here. Hence anger and chaos."

I said about it being a witch hunt before, it's doesn't matter though, because..... Trump is hated.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

"The consequences from indicting Trump is going to be interesting for any future POTUS, or is it?

Only if they engage in criminal activity.

It will run deeper than what's on the surface in my opinion. The landscape of US politics has now been changed.

If it encourages presidents and former presidents to stop breaking the law. Seems like a positive thing.

If the USA really want to clean their act up then there's many more former presidents than Trump they should be looking at.

Otherwise this just smells of a witch hunt

Anyone breaking the law should be dealt with in the legal system. In my opinion.

Why is this bad?

Surely former presidents shouldn't be above the law.

They have been until now, why? Which provides the reason for anger and chaos.

Choices create consequences, choose to make an example, prepare for the consequence.

Yeah, if people are causing chaos because a former president is on trial for crimes he committed. What should they do, just let him off?

I don't see that any civilised society should allow their former leaders to do business illegally.

They have let off before and now they don't, you can see that?

If you step away from the rule book and see it through the eyes of people who feel that this is a witch hunt, then the witch hunt does not simply stop here. Hence anger and chaos."

Honestly. I can't see the argument in favour of letting him off for fear people will cause chaos.

I respect your opinion. But disagree.

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma

"The consequences from indicting Trump is going to be interesting for any future POTUS, or is it?

Only if they engage in criminal activity.

It will run deeper than what's on the surface in my opinion. The landscape of US politics has now been changed.

If it encourages presidents and former presidents to stop breaking the law. Seems like a positive thing.

If the USA really want to clean their act up then there's many more former presidents than Trump they should be looking at.

Otherwise this just smells of a witch hunt

Anyone breaking the law should be dealt with in the legal system. In my opinion.

Why is this bad?

Surely former presidents shouldn't be above the law.

They have been until now, why? Which provides the reason for anger and chaos.

Choices create consequences, choose to make an example, prepare for the consequence.

Yeah, if people are causing chaos because a former president is on trial for crimes he committed. What should they do, just let him off?

I don't see that any civilised society should allow their former leaders to do business illegally.

They have let off before and now they don't, you can see that?

If you step away from the rule book and see it through the eyes of people who feel that this is a witch hunt, then the witch hunt does not simply stop here. Hence anger and chaos.

Honestly. I can't see the argument in favour of letting him off for fear people will cause chaos.

I respect your opinion. But disagree."

You added the part about letting him off.. I merely said choice creates consequence, as you seem not to fully take onboard why some people will be angry.

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma

"The consequences from indicting Trump is going to be interesting for any future POTUS, or is it?

Only if they engage in criminal activity.

It will run deeper than what's on the surface in my opinion. The landscape of US politics has now been changed.

If it encourages presidents and former presidents to stop breaking the law. Seems like a positive thing.

If the USA really want to clean their act up then there's many more former presidents than Trump they should be looking at.

Otherwise this just smells of a witch hunt

Anyone breaking the law should be dealt with in the legal system. In my opinion.

Why is this bad?

Surely former presidents shouldn't be above the law.

They have been until now, why? Which provides the reason for anger and chaos.

Choices create consequences, choose to make an example, prepare for the consequence.

Yeah, if people are causing chaos because a former president is on trial for crimes he committed. What should they do, just let him off?

I don't see that any civilised society should allow their former leaders to do business illegally.

They have let off before and now they don't, you can see that?

If you step away from the rule book and see it through the eyes of people who feel that this is a witch hunt, then the witch hunt does not simply stop here. Hence anger and chaos.

I said about it being a witch hunt before, it's doesn't matter though, because..... Trump is hated."

You are spot on, he is hated and I can’t help feel he is now being taught a lesson.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

"The consequences from indicting Trump is going to be interesting for any future POTUS, or is it?

Only if they engage in criminal activity.

It will run deeper than what's on the surface in my opinion. The landscape of US politics has now been changed.

If it encourages presidents and former presidents to stop breaking the law. Seems like a positive thing.

If the USA really want to clean their act up then there's many more former presidents than Trump they should be looking at.

Otherwise this just smells of a witch hunt

Anyone breaking the law should be dealt with in the legal system. In my opinion.

Why is this bad?

Surely former presidents shouldn't be above the law.

They have been until now, why? Which provides the reason for anger and chaos.

Choices create consequences, choose to make an example, prepare for the consequence.

Yeah, if people are causing chaos because a former president is on trial for crimes he committed. What should they do, just let him off?

I don't see that any civilised society should allow their former leaders to do business illegally.

They have let off before and now they don't, you can see that?

If you step away from the rule book and see it through the eyes of people who feel that this is a witch hunt, then the witch hunt does not simply stop here. Hence anger and chaos.

Honestly. I can't see the argument in favour of letting him off for fear people will cause chaos.

I respect your opinion. But disagree.

You added the part about letting him off.. I merely said choice creates consequence, as you seem not to fully take onboard why some people will be angry."

Yeah because they think it's a conspiracy.

Okay sure I added "let him off". Isn't that the only alternative?

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma

"The consequences from indicting Trump is going to be interesting for any future POTUS, or is it?

Only if they engage in criminal activity.

It will run deeper than what's on the surface in my opinion. The landscape of US politics has now been changed.

If it encourages presidents and former presidents to stop breaking the law. Seems like a positive thing.

If the USA really want to clean their act up then there's many more former presidents than Trump they should be looking at.

Otherwise this just smells of a witch hunt

Anyone breaking the law should be dealt with in the legal system. In my opinion.

Why is this bad?

Surely former presidents shouldn't be above the law.

They have been until now, why? Which provides the reason for anger and chaos.

Choices create consequences, choose to make an example, prepare for the consequence.

Yeah, if people are causing chaos because a former president is on trial for crimes he committed. What should they do, just let him off?

I don't see that any civilised society should allow their former leaders to do business illegally.

They have let off before and now they don't, you can see that?

If you step away from the rule book and see it through the eyes of people who feel that this is a witch hunt, then the witch hunt does not simply stop here. Hence anger and chaos.

Honestly. I can't see the argument in favour of letting him off for fear people will cause chaos.

I respect your opinion. But disagree.

You added the part about letting him off.. I merely said choice creates consequence, as you seem not to fully take onboard why some people will be angry.

Yeah because they think it's a conspiracy.

Okay sure I added "let him off". Isn't that the only alternative? "

My first post was the landscape has now changed, I hope you can see what I mean now?

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

"The consequences from indicting Trump is going to be interesting for any future POTUS, or is it?

Only if they engage in criminal activity.

It will run deeper than what's on the surface in my opinion. The landscape of US politics has now been changed.

If it encourages presidents and former presidents to stop breaking the law. Seems like a positive thing.

If the USA really want to clean their act up then there's many more former presidents than Trump they should be looking at.

Otherwise this just smells of a witch hunt

Anyone breaking the law should be dealt with in the legal system. In my opinion.

Why is this bad?

Surely former presidents shouldn't be above the law.

They have been until now, why? Which provides the reason for anger and chaos.

Choices create consequences, choose to make an example, prepare for the consequence.

Yeah, if people are causing chaos because a former president is on trial for crimes he committed. What should they do, just let him off?

I don't see that any civilised society should allow their former leaders to do business illegally.

They have let off before and now they don't, you can see that?

If you step away from the rule book and see it through the eyes of people who feel that this is a witch hunt, then the witch hunt does not simply stop here. Hence anger and chaos.

Honestly. I can't see the argument in favour of letting him off for fear people will cause chaos.

I respect your opinion. But disagree.

You added the part about letting him off.. I merely said choice creates consequence, as you seem not to fully take onboard why some people will be angry.

Yeah because they think it's a conspiracy.

Okay sure I added "let him off". Isn't that the only alternative?

My first post was the landscape has now changed, I hope you can see what I mean now?"

Sure. I think it's a good thing.

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma

"The consequences from indicting Trump is going to be interesting for any future POTUS, or is it?

Only if they engage in criminal activity.

It will run deeper than what's on the surface in my opinion. The landscape of US politics has now been changed.

If it encourages presidents and former presidents to stop breaking the law. Seems like a positive thing.

If the USA really want to clean their act up then there's many more former presidents than Trump they should be looking at.

Otherwise this just smells of a witch hunt

Anyone breaking the law should be dealt with in the legal system. In my opinion.

Why is this bad?

Surely former presidents shouldn't be above the law.

They have been until now, why? Which provides the reason for anger and chaos.

Choices create consequences, choose to make an example, prepare for the consequence.

Yeah, if people are causing chaos because a former president is on trial for crimes he committed. What should they do, just let him off?

I don't see that any civilised society should allow their former leaders to do business illegally.

They have let off before and now they don't, you can see that?

If you step away from the rule book and see it through the eyes of people who feel that this is a witch hunt, then the witch hunt does not simply stop here. Hence anger and chaos.

Honestly. I can't see the argument in favour of letting him off for fear people will cause chaos.

I respect your opinion. But disagree.

You added the part about letting him off.. I merely said choice creates consequence, as you seem not to fully take onboard why some people will be angry.

Yeah because they think it's a conspiracy.

Okay sure I added "let him off". Isn't that the only alternative?

My first post was the landscape has now changed, I hope you can see what I mean now?

Sure. I think it's a good thing."

Time will tell, however the present time will take the brunt of the fallout

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

"The consequences from indicting Trump is going to be interesting for any future POTUS, or is it?

Only if they engage in criminal activity.

It will run deeper than what's on the surface in my opinion. The landscape of US politics has now been changed.

If it encourages presidents and former presidents to stop breaking the law. Seems like a positive thing.

If the USA really want to clean their act up then there's many more former presidents than Trump they should be looking at.

Otherwise this just smells of a witch hunt

Anyone breaking the law should be dealt with in the legal system. In my opinion.

Why is this bad?

Surely former presidents shouldn't be above the law.

They have been until now, why? Which provides the reason for anger and chaos.

Choices create consequences, choose to make an example, prepare for the consequence.

Yeah, if people are causing chaos because a former president is on trial for crimes he committed. What should they do, just let him off?

I don't see that any civilised society should allow their former leaders to do business illegally.

They have let off before and now they don't, you can see that?

If you step away from the rule book and see it through the eyes of people who feel that this is a witch hunt, then the witch hunt does not simply stop here. Hence anger and chaos.

Honestly. I can't see the argument in favour of letting him off for fear people will cause chaos.

I respect your opinion. But disagree.

You added the part about letting him off.. I merely said choice creates consequence, as you seem not to fully take onboard why some people will be angry.

Yeah because they think it's a conspiracy.

Okay sure I added "let him off". Isn't that the only alternative?

My first post was the landscape has now changed, I hope you can see what I mean now?

Sure. I think it's a good thing.

Time will tell, however the present time will take the brunt of the fallout "

Indeed. Rather than blaming the legal system for doing what they're supposed to be doing. Some might suggest that the people who will cause this hypothetical Chaos, might be responsible for their own actions.

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over a year ago

People here atleast are looking at it like voter suppression. They will do anything that stops trump from getting into office again instead of beating him at the polls. It does in that aspect look like a witch hunt to some. Just have to ride out the new shitstorm.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So let's all together watch the world burn. It's going to be epic

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By *enny PR9TV/TS
over a year ago

Southport

The Judge in Trumps r@pe trial played a blinder today. With Trump yesterday in Ireland saying he was going to fly back to New York to testify, but his lawyer saying "Trump was lying and they rest their case". The Judge then said "I'm going to give your client till Monday to make up his mind what he wants to do". He can read Trump like an open book. "The nasty Judge wouldn't let me testify like I wanted to"

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

haha!

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

Probably why he's turned up at Scotland for a last bit of golf

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why are you all worried about Trump? It's kind of hilarious to me.

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By *4bimMan
over a year ago

Farnborough Hampshire

"Why are you all worried about Trump? It's kind of hilarious to me. "

I don't get it either. But these are the same people who jump all over a shootings in the states but say nothing when 2 mass shootings happen in Serbia and children are killed in the same week.

They only interested in one agenda.

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

"Why are you all worried about Trump? It's kind of hilarious to me. "

Why should I be worried or even concerned about him

when he was an associate of Epstein

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why are you all worried about Trump? It's kind of hilarious to me.

Why should I be worried or even concerned about him

when he was an associate of Epstein "
prince Andrew was too

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

"Why are you all worried about Trump? It's kind of hilarious to me.

Why should I be worried or even concerned about him

when he was an associate of Epstein prince Andrew was too

And many more probably Clinton as well bush always cush

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"The Judge in Trumps r@pe trial played a blinder today. With Trump yesterday in Ireland saying he was going to fly back to New York to testify, but his lawyer saying "Trump was lying and they rest their case". The Judge then said "I'm going to give your client till Monday to make up his mind what he wants to do". He can read Trump like an open book. "The nasty Judge wouldn't let me testify like I wanted to"

His lawyer would be committing serious malpractice if he allowed trump anywhere near the witness stand! The released deposition he gave was absolutely awful by itself.. let alone have the plaintiffs lawyer potentially cross examining him to which he would make things a million times worse by likely purging himself by lying under oath!

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

"Why are you all worried about Trump? It's kind of hilarious to me. "

The media here love stories about Trump.

Also people are fascinated in him. Like some kind of weird real life soap opera. What weird shit will he do and say next.

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

"The consequences from indicting Trump is going to be interesting for any future POTUS, or is it?

Only if they engage in criminal activity.

It will run deeper than what's on the surface in my opinion. The landscape of US politics has now been changed.

If it encourages presidents and former presidents to stop breaking the law. Seems like a positive thing.

other presidents have broken the law and if you consider where Trump is today it is going to be a rather dirty and bumpy future for any POTUS. "

Should all Presidents be exempt from all legal action in perpetuity?

Is there nothing that they can ever be prosecuted for?

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

"The consequences from indicting Trump is going to be interesting for any future POTUS, or is it?

Only if they engage in criminal activity.

It will run deeper than what's on the surface in my opinion. The landscape of US politics has now been changed.

If it encourages presidents and former presidents to stop breaking the law. Seems like a positive thing.

If the USA really want to clean their act up then there's many more former presidents than Trump they should be looking at.

Otherwise this just smells of a witch hunt

Anyone breaking the law should be dealt with in the legal system. In my opinion.

Of course. Do you think the US so be going after former presidents aswell as Trump?

Is or should be?

No clue if they will.

They definitely should. In my opinion.

Apologies, was should be. We agree on that.

I wonder why they don't."

Perhaps it's lack of evidence.

Is that a possibility?

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

"The consequences from indicting Trump is going to be interesting for any future POTUS, or is it?

Only if they engage in criminal activity.

It will run deeper than what's on the surface in my opinion. The landscape of US politics has now been changed.

If it encourages presidents and former presidents to stop breaking the law. Seems like a positive thing.

If the USA really want to clean their act up then there's many more former presidents than Trump they should be looking at.

Otherwise this just smells of a witch hunt

Anyone breaking the law should be dealt with in the legal system. In my opinion.

Of course. Do you think the US so be going after former presidents aswell as Trump?

Is or should be?

No clue if they will.

They definitely should. In my opinion.

Apologies, was should be. We agree on that.

I wonder why they don't.

No idea. My guesses would be that the American legal system is political. And maybe Trump just is just more brazen and open with his crimes."

This is the fundamental problem.

A politicised legal system creates progressively less trust in the system.

However, it has also increased State level willingness to prosecute as it increases law officials' electability and progression to higher office.

Does anyone think that Republican state prosecutors have higher moral standards? They would be doing the same if they could.

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

"People here atleast are looking at it like voter suppression. They will do anything that stops trump from getting into office again instead of beating him at the polls. It does in that aspect look like a witch hunt to some. Just have to ride out the new shitstorm."

What forms of "voter suppression" has been deployed against Trump supporters?

Are you also saying that the Republican party have not been using voter suppression long before this? Is that also wrong?

You have suggested previously that states should be able to set their own rules on laws such as abortion. Should they not set the rules on election districts?

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

"Why are you all worried about Trump? It's kind of hilarious to me. "

Because he was and could be the President of the USA.

That is quite an important job.

Do you believe that the policies of the USA and the behaviour of its President have no consequences to everyone else on the planet?

Do you think that your country and its leader are of no consequence?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why are you all worried about Trump? It's kind of hilarious to me.

Because he was and could be the President of the USA.

That is quite an important job.

Do you believe that the policies of the USA and the behaviour of its President have no consequences to everyone else on the planet?

Do you think that your country and its leader are of no consequence?"
Stay tuned he might be or might not be president again. If he is the people voted. If not the people still voted. It's our choices. You can sit back and watch the circus unfold. I promise you will enjoy the freak show called US Presidential Elections.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People arguing over which sock puppet is presented to them...

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over a year ago

"People arguing over which sock puppet is presented to them..."
lol true.

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

"Why are you all worried about Trump? It's kind of hilarious to me.

Because he was and could be the President of the USA.

That is quite an important job.

Do you believe that the policies of the USA and the behaviour of its President have no consequences to everyone else on the planet?

Do you think that your country and its leader are of no consequence? Stay tuned he might be or might not be president again. If he is the people voted. If not the people still voted. It's our choices. You can sit back and watch the circus unfold. I promise you will enjoy the freak show called US Presidential Elections."

You understand why the outcome is of interest then.

The show doesn't bother me except that it is an interesting window I to what people do and do not believe is an important reflection of a person's suitability for such an important job.

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over a year ago

"Why are you all worried about Trump? It's kind of hilarious to me.

Because he was and could be the President of the USA.

That is quite an important job.

Do you believe that the policies of the USA and the behaviour of its President have no consequences to everyone else on the planet?

You understand why the outcome is of interest then.

The show doesn't bother me except that it is an interesting window I to what people do and do not believe is an important reflection of a person's suitability for such an important job."
Well you would have alot to complain about if he gets elected. It does look like a possibility.

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By *enny PR9TV/TS
over a year ago

Southport

"Why are you all worried about Trump? It's kind of hilarious to me.

Because he was and could be the President of the USA.

That is quite an important job.

Do you believe that the policies of the USA and the behaviour of its President have no consequences to everyone else on the planet?

You understand why the outcome is of interest then.

The show doesn't bother me except that it is an interesting window I to what people do and do not believe is an important reflection of a person's suitability for such an important job. Well you would have alot to complain about if he gets elected. It does look like a possibility."

Looks like he'll get the nomination and his get out of jail free card if he wins. He's trying to get the New York States case moved to federal court. So it's a choice between the Big House or the White House for Donnie.

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By *enny PR9TV/TS
over a year ago

Southport

"Why are you all worried about Trump? It's kind of hilarious to me.

Because he was and could be the President of the USA.

That is quite an important job.

Do you believe that the policies of the USA and the behaviour of its President have no consequences to everyone else on the planet?

You understand why the outcome is of interest then.

The show doesn't bother me except that it is an interesting window I to what people do and do not believe is an important reflection of a person's suitability for such an important job. Well you would have alot to complain about if he gets elected. It does look like a possibility.

As Tucker Carlson is being paid by Fox till the end of his contract, late 2024, and if he were broadcast for anyone else he would be braking his contract. He would certainly be available to run as Trumps running mate in 2024. That might be just enough to get Trump the extra 70,000 vote swing that would put him back in the White House. God help us all.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"Why are you all worried about Trump? It's kind of hilarious to me.

Because he was and could be the President of the USA.

That is quite an important job.

Do you believe that the policies of the USA and the behaviour of its President have no consequences to everyone else on the planet?

You understand why the outcome is of interest then.

The show doesn't bother me except that it is an interesting window I to what people do and do not believe is an important reflection of a person's suitability for such an important job. Well you would have alot to complain about if he gets elected. It does look like a possibility.

It depends on what they sacked him for… if they consider for example his behaviour with other staff and the text messages to be “gross misconduct” they wouldn’t have to pay him ( and there again would be a huge legal fight)

If not then yes.. basically fox are paying him gardening leave till contract runs out… unless Carlson decides to leave early to do other things and then fox are off the hook for the money!

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

And in the least surprising legal move, the lawyers for Donald trump have confirmed that his is not going to testify in his case against E Jean Carroll

Looks like now a great decision by the judge to call trumps bluff after saying that he would come back to testify….

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By *idnight RamblerMan
over a year ago

Pershore

But get this, in latest polling Biden (38%) is trailing Trump (44%) in a hypothetical 2024 Presidential run-off.

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

Trump and Carlson one two.

Oh my

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

"Trump and Carlson one two.

Oh my "

If they don't win, they should tell them they have won, and put them in a televised AI simulation, so we can watch all the mad shit they think they're doing.

Of course. This maybe already happened.

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

"But get this, in latest polling Biden (38%) is trailing Trump (44%) in a hypothetical 2024 Presidential run-off. "

What polling?

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By *idnight RamblerMan
over a year ago

Pershore

"But get this, in latest polling Biden (38%) is trailing Trump (44%) in a hypothetical 2024 Presidential run-off.

What polling?"

Washington Post - ABC News

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

"But get this, in latest polling Biden (38%) is trailing Trump (44%) in a hypothetical 2024 Presidential run-off.

What polling?

Washington Post - ABC News"

+-3.5% margin of error and 18% undecided.

It tells us that the polls are neck and neck for those definitely voting Republican or Democrat but there is a very large swing.

What's surprising is that DeSantis currently appears less strong against Biden even though it's Biden's health and mental acuity seem to be amongst the electorates greatest concern.

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over a year ago

"But get this, in latest polling Biden (38%) is trailing Trump (44%) in a hypothetical 2024 Presidential run-off. "
The economy is going to be the deciding factor next election. If Trump gets the nomination people remember that it was better under his presidency.I probably vote Trump in that scenario too.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"But get this, in latest polling Biden (38%) is trailing Trump (44%) in a hypothetical 2024 Presidential run-off. The economy is going to be the deciding factor next election. If Trump gets the nomination people remember that it was better under his presidency.I probably vote Trump in that scenario too."

Yes, it's interesting that the Republicans are going to try to contest the raising of the debt ceiling, then blame the ensuing chaos on Biden

It's not how anything works, but people struggle to keep hold of realities beyond soundbites

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By *enny PR9TV/TS
over a year ago

Southport

Yes, it's interesting that the Republicans are going to try to contest the raising of the debt ceiling, then blame the ensuing chaos on Biden

It's not how anything works, but people struggle to keep hold of realities beyond soundbites"

I would have thought the minimum a Congressman would have to do is to not tank the America economy. Whereas some see owning the Libs as the maximum they have to do.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Yes, it's interesting that the Republicans are going to try to contest the raising of the debt ceiling, then blame the ensuing chaos on Biden

It's not how anything works, but people struggle to keep hold of realities beyond soundbites

I would have thought the minimum a Congressman would have to do is to not tank the America economy. Whereas some see owning the Libs as the maximum they have to do."

It's bonkers

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over a year ago

PMSL

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By *enny PR9TV/TS
over a year ago

Southport

Yes, it's interesting that the Republicans are going to try to contest the raising of the debt ceiling, then blame the ensuing chaos on Biden

It's not how anything works, but people struggle to keep hold of realities beyond soundbites

I would have thought the minimum a Congressman would have to do is to not tank the America economy. Whereas some see owning the Libs as the maximum they have to do.

It's bonkers"

But highly entertaining, and now with the corruption at the Supreme Court it all adds to an entertaining election year.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Yes, it's interesting that the Republicans are going to try to contest the raising of the debt ceiling, then blame the ensuing chaos on Biden

It's not how anything works, but people struggle to keep hold of realities beyond soundbites

I would have thought the minimum a Congressman would have to do is to not tank the America economy. Whereas some see owning the Libs as the maximum they have to do.

It's bonkers

But highly entertaining, and now with the corruption at the Supreme Court it all adds to an entertaining election year.

Yes.

Why are we interested in Trump, people ask?

It's entertaining.

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

What was better under the Trump Presidency other than inflation?

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over a year ago

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over a year ago

What was better under the Trump Presidency other than inflation?"
Isn't the economy the number 1 issue? I would rather have more disposable income than care about anything else. What's wrong with living ?

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over a year ago

What was better under the Trump Presidency other than inflation? Isn't the economy the number 1 issue? I would rather have more disposable income than care about anything else. What's wrong with living ? "
Brexit is similar is it not ? Brexit happens people angry over costs. Biden gets elected same shit happened.

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

What was better under the Trump Presidency other than inflation? Isn't the economy the number 1 issue? I would rather have more disposable income than care about anything else. What's wrong with living ? Brexit is similar is it not ? Brexit happens people angry over costs. Biden gets elected same shit happened."

Objectively, every country is suffering because of inflation. The UK is suffering worse because of Brexit, although that isn't the only reason.

The reason we have such a high level of inflation is high employment and rising wages (traditionally considered a good thing) and a war in Ukraine that increased global prices.

Which of these things would you vote for Trump to reverse?

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over a year ago

What was better under the Trump Presidency other than inflation? Isn't the economy the number 1 issue? I would rather have more disposable income than care about anything else. What's wrong with living ? Brexit is similar is it not ? Brexit happens people angry over costs. Biden gets elected same shit happened.

Objectively, every country is suffering because of inflation. The UK is suffering worse because of Brexit, although that isn't the only reason.

The reason we have such a high level of inflation is high employment and rising wages (traditionally considered a good thing) and a war in Ukraine that increased global prices.

Which of these things would you vote for Trump to reverse?"
You know my stance. Isolationist.

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

What was better under the Trump Presidency other than inflation? Isn't the economy the number 1 issue? I would rather have more disposable income than care about anything else. What's wrong with living ? Brexit is similar is it not ? Brexit happens people angry over costs. Biden gets elected same shit happened.

Objectively, every country is suffering because of inflation. The UK is suffering worse because of Brexit, although that isn't the only reason.

The reason we have such a high level of inflation is high employment and rising wages (traditionally considered a good thing) and a war in Ukraine that increased global prices.

Which of these things would you vote for Trump to reverse? You know my stance. Isolationist.

Except you support the intervention on Ukraine.

Would you want to return to the lower wages, lower growth and higher unemployment of Trump?

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over a year ago

What was better under the Trump Presidency other than inflation? Isn't the economy the number 1 issue? I would rather have more disposable income than care about anything else. What's wrong with living ? Brexit is similar is it not ? Brexit happens people angry over costs. Biden gets elected same shit happened.

Objectively, every country is suffering because of inflation. The UK is suffering worse because of Brexit, although that isn't the only reason.

The reason we have such a high level of inflation is high employment and rising wages (traditionally considered a good thing) and a war in Ukraine that increased global prices.

Which of these things would you vote for Trump to reverse? You know my stance. Isolationist.

Except you support the intervention on Ukraine.

Would you want to return to the lower wages, lower growth and higher unemployment of Trump?"
The arms for Ukrainians are on the lend lease program are they not ? The same exact program we gave your country during WW2. Which was recently paid off. Tell me why we shouldn't disengage from European issue other than providing arms ?

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over a year ago

People make fun of us but when the shit hits the fan. Well it seems the world needs us more the we need them. All for being a isolationist.

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over a year ago

So welcome to a new era it's comming

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

What was better under the Trump Presidency other than inflation? Isn't the economy the number 1 issue? I would rather have more disposable income than care about anything else. What's wrong with living ? Brexit is similar is it not ? Brexit happens people angry over costs. Biden gets elected same shit happened.

Objectively, every country is suffering because of inflation. The UK is suffering worse because of Brexit, although that isn't the only reason.

The reason we have such a high level of inflation is high employment and rising wages (traditionally considered a good thing) and a war in Ukraine that increased global prices.

Which of these things would you vote for Trump to reverse? You know my stance. Isolationist.

Except you support the intervention on Ukraine.

Would you want to return to the lower wages, lower growth and higher unemployment of Trump? The arms for Ukrainians are on the lend lease program are they not ? The same exact program we gave your country during WW2. Which was recently paid off. Tell me why we shouldn't disengage from European issue other than providing arms ? "

You've started a different conversation.

Global inflation.

Ukraine leading to higher energy prices. You think that the USA should do that.

Higher unemployment and higher wages of (in your case American) workers.

Reduced globalization with a disengagement from Chinese imports (isolationist). Trump taxed them. Biden has banned them and demanded US production.

Which of Biden's policies would you roll back to the time of Trump?

Commit to what you said about voting for Trump because of the economy and explain the changes you want to see or change your mind.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"But get this, in latest polling Biden (38%) is trailing Trump (44%) in a hypothetical 2024 Presidential run-off.

What polling?

Washington Post - ABC News

+-3.5% margin of error and 18% undecided.

It tells us that the polls are neck and neck for those definitely voting Republican or Democrat but there is a very large swing.

What's surprising is that DeSantis currently appears less strong against Biden even though it's Biden's health and mental acuity seem to be amongst the electorates greatest concern."

It’s not quite as simple as the 44 vs 38 would suggest…. The methodology is interesting

In this poll they were given 5 options… definitely trump, leaning trump, definitely Biden, leaning Biden and undecided

What this says is that trump probably has more of the Republican base already tied up than Biden does of the democratic base

A couple of things to take into consideration… blu said economy is one.. I agree… federal gun rights and federal abortion rights will come up a lot as well and that is going to back trump into a really awkward corner… if you don’t think abortion is an issue again republican male led legislature in Nebraska and South Carolina again tried to bring in 6 week abortion bans, and both got beat back.. and in South Carolina it was the 5 republican women who voted to for it to fail!

The other thing that is going to annoy trump no end is that if the E Jean Carroll goes against him they are legally going to be allowed to call him a r@pist.. and if you think that is not going to be repeated again and again in attack ads.. it’s the gift that will keep on giving!

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

Jury sent out for deliberations at 11am.. and now it’s just before 3pm and apparently they are coming back with a verdict already

Only out for 4 hrs is super quick…..

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

Right… I am going to be really, really careful with the wording of the verdict and what they came with…

It was a jury of 9 people… 6 men and 3 women

They found him civilly guilty of battery, battery comes in 3 levels, r@pe, sexual abuse and unwanted forcefully touching…. They decided it wasn’t R@pe but it was sexual abuse.. which is the same legally as sexual assault

They also found trump guilty of defamation against Carroll, in the statements he made about her accusations

Carroll never asked for a money amount in recompense… but they jury have awarded her 2 million dollars for the sexual battery, and 3 million dollars for the deformation

So we can call trump a sexual assailant….

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Right… I am going to be really, really careful with the wording of the verdict and what they came with…

It was a jury of 9 people… 6 men and 3 women

They also found trump guilty of defamation against Carroll, in the statements he made about her accusations

Carroll never asked for a money amount in recompense… but they jury have awarded her 2 million dollars for the sexual battery, and 3 million dollars for the deformation

So we can call trump a sexual assailant…. "

I hope Carroll feels vindicated and can find peace with her trauma

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By *ools and the brainCouple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

He thought he could bully and lie his way out of it.

Vindication taking him to court let's hope he doesn't weasel his way out of it.

And hopefully she can get on with her life.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

The best way to describe what he has been found guilty of… remember the lovely access Hollywood tape where he said because he was famous that you can grab them by the…….

Well…. That!

So yeah…. Sex offender Donald trump!

And CNN are suppose to be doing a town hall with him in New Hampshire tomorrow night!

Anyone want odds on that still happening

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By *enny PR9TV/TS
over a year ago

Southport

"The best way to describe what he has been found guilty of… remember the lovely access Hollywood tape where he said because he was famous that you can grab them by the…….

Well…. That!

So yeah…. Sex offender Donald trump!

And CNN are suppose to be doing a town hall with him in New Hampshire tomorrow night!

Anyone want odds on that still happening "

She did say in her deposition she couldn't remember if penetration took place as his penis was so small. I'll translate that to English for you. It was limpless, lifeless and useless other than connecting his bladder to the outside world.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"The best way to describe what he has been found guilty of… remember the lovely access Hollywood tape where he said because he was famous that you can grab them by the…….

Well…. That!

So yeah…. Sex offender Donald trump!

And CNN are suppose to be doing a town hall with him in New Hampshire tomorrow night!

Anyone want odds on that still happening "

High.

Who gives a shit about anything other than ratings?

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over a year ago

Lol this is just going to embolden his base. I was listening to the radio of multiple stations. Let's just put it this way. 2024 is probably going to be the most tumultuous year yet. People are at the breaking point.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

"Lol this is just going to embolden his base. I was listening to the radio of multiple stations. Let's just put it this way. 2024 is probably going to be the most tumultuous year yet. People are at the breaking point. "

Do they think that voting in a narcissistic, insecure, mad bloke that says lots of dodgy bigoted crap will help them?

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over a year ago

Do they think that voting in a narcissistic, insecure, mad bloke that says lots of dodgy bigoted crap will help them?"
we shall see. This administration is no better now is it? I said earlier that if he the nominee against Biden I will choose trump. I want desantis or Kennedy. Yes I'll switch parties for Kennedy against trump. Desantis Kennedy I haven't decided yet thier campaigns haven't really taken off.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

Can I ask a serious question…..

Since they think roughly 1/4 to 1/3 of women have been sexually assaulted or faced unwanted sexual touching at some point in their lives, why would you want to vote for a sex offender who has shown zero remorse….

Men might put it down to hijinxs.. but I do believe women will think long and hard

Remember this one case had another 3 women alleged the same thing… and then there are another 12 who are alleging various degrees of sexual misconduct against trump

I just find it hard to believe that the sexual offender Donald trump is innocent on all accounts and all 16 women are making it all up!

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

Did you really just "lol" about this verdict?

It's quite something when people become more likely to vote for someone after being convicted of sexual assault.

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over a year ago

Did you really just "lol" about this verdict?

It's quite something when people become more likely to vote for someone after being convicted of sexual assault."
Do you really think it matters when he got convicted in one of the most liberal cities in the nation? How is that a jury of his peers? If the trial was held in Florida what do you think that outcome would be ?

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

Did you really just "lol" about this verdict?

It's quite something when people become more likely to vote for someone after being convicted of sexual assault. Do you really think it matters when he got convicted in one of the most liberal cities in the nation? How is that a jury of his peers? If the trial was held in Florida what do you think that outcome would be ? "

Didn't Trump live in New York for most of his life?

So a conviction for sexual assault in one part of the USA is not valid on another part of the USA in your opinion if they hold different views?

So should people accused of racist attacks only be tried by a jury of racists who told similar views to them?

You don't seem to trust your highly politicised legal system for some reason, but decisions made by a politically selected Supreme Court are okay?

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over a year ago

Did you really just "lol" about this verdict?

Didn't Trump live in New York for most of his life?

So a conviction for sexual assault in one part of the USA is not valid on another part of the USA in your opinion if they hold different views?

So should people accused of racist attacks only be tried by a jury of racists who told similar views to them?

You don't seem to trust your highly politicised legal system for some reason, but decisions made by a politically selected Supreme Court are okay?"
Tell me who here hasn't heard of Trump. So how is that a impartial jury ? When 92% of Manhattan voted for Biden? Like I said they not looking at this liable conviction as a guilty conviction. It's liable not guilty. Otherwise it would have the other charges.

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

Did you really just "lol" about this verdict?

Didn't Trump live in New York for most of his life?

So a conviction for sexual assault in one part of the USA is not valid on another part of the USA in your opinion if they hold different views?

So should people accused of racist attacks only be tried by a jury of racists who told similar views to them?

You don't seem to trust your highly politicised legal system for some reason, but decisions made by a politically selected Supreme Court are okay? Tell me who here hasn't heard of Trump. So how is that a impartial jury ? When 92% of Manhattan voted for Biden? Like I said they not looking at this liable conviction as a guilty conviction. It's liable not guilty. Otherwise it would have the other charges."

So Trump can never be tried for any crime ever?

He is above the law forever, regardless of what he does?

Racists should be tried by fellow racists?

I understand "lol" to sexual assault and saying that it's not a "real" conviction. This is quite another level of apologist.

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over a year ago

Did you really just "lol" about this verdict?

Didn't Trump live in New York for most of his life?

So a conviction for sexual assault in one part of the USA is not valid on another part of the USA in your opinion if they hold different views?

So should people accused of racist attacks only be tried by a jury of racists who told similar views to them?

So Trump can never be tried for any crime ever?

He is above the law forever, regardless of what he does?

Racists should be tried by fellow racists?

I understand "lol" to sexual assault and saying that it's not a "real" conviction. This is quite another level of apologist."
Why wasn't there a not a criminal conviction Instead of a civil one ? Too many unanswered questions don't you think?

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By *idnight RamblerMan
over a year ago

Pershore

Did you really just "lol" about this verdict?

Didn't Trump live in New York for most of his life?

So a conviction for sexual assault in one part of the USA is not valid on another part of the USA in your opinion if they hold different views?

So should people accused of racist attacks only be tried by a jury of racists who told similar views to them?

So Trump can never be tried for any crime ever?

He is above the law forever, regardless of what he does?

Racists should be tried by fellow racists?

I understand "lol" to sexual assault and saying that it's not a "real" conviction. This is quite another level of apologist. Why wasn't there a not a criminal conviction Instead of a civil one ? Too many unanswered questions don't you think? "

Because in a criminal court the burden of proof is set higher. A criminal verdict is reached on "beyond reasonable doubt" whereas a civil verdict is reached on the "balance of probability". If prosecutors in the criminal courts are not confident that bar can be reached, the case is unlikely to progress.

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

So we have a sexual assailant versus a child sniffing creep who cannot string a coherent sentence together.

It shouldn’t be like this what a joke.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

"So we have a sexual assailant versus a child sniffing creep who cannot string a coherent sentence together.

It shouldn’t be like this what a joke. "

Surely those two arseholes aren't the pinnacle of humanity in the USA. There must be someone better.

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By *idnight RamblerMan
over a year ago

Pershore

"So we have a sexual assailant versus a child sniffing creep who cannot string a coherent sentence together.

It shouldn’t be like this what a joke.

Surely those two arseholes aren't the pinnacle of humanity in the USA. There must be someone better. "

Someone like a King perhaps?

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

Did you really just "lol" about this verdict?

Didn't Trump live in New York for most of his life?

So a conviction for sexual assault in one part of the USA is not valid on another part of the USA in your opinion if they hold different views?

So should people accused of racist attacks only be tried by a jury of racists who told similar views to them?

So Trump can never be tried for any crime ever?

He is above the law forever, regardless of what he does?

Racists should be tried by fellow racists?

True. A civil conviction.

Therefore something to "lol" about and question being "real". Although, by your logic, I guess a man accused of r@pe should be tried by other alleged male r@pists so to be fair.

I don't know why it was a civil rather than criminal trial.

Are there time limits to criminal cases?

Virginia Guifre implicated Prince Andrew in a civil trial.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

So many things I want to say about so many posts … I will try and answer and make a few observations

So .. where to start… blu and the “would he have been convicted in Florida “ line

1) do you know how long he has been a “resident of Florida “?….. only since 2019 (side note… Trump couldn’t even run for governor of Florida, because Florida law states you have to have been a resident for 10 years!)

2) move the case out of Manhattan… well you normally hold the case in the jurisdiction that the event took place.. but I’ll entertain you… you could try to move it to a different New York State courthouse… but I don’t think moving the case to Albany or buffalo is really helping him more than the Brooklyn/bronxs/queens courthouses would… heck even if you moved it to Staten Island you are talking about 50/50 at best…

Unless you are trying to infer that he isn’t going to get a fair trial anyway in the state.. in which case he gets away because he is the higher than the law!

So… that gets us to statues of limitations…

Normally in New York State it’s 10 years for sexual battery.. (another side note, in blu home state of Pennsylvania it’s also 10 years, which is why bill Cosby was only ever charged with 1 case of sexual assault because even though he had been doing it for the best part of 25 years to countless women, the statute of limitations on the one he was charged was within days of it running out)

But… this is much more than 10 years…. Right?

In the wake of all of the many various historical allegations that came out as part of “me too” what New York State decided to do in the legislature was pass a specific law which allowed people with past allegations a “1 year window” to go back and file historical civil cases against the people they accused of committing these acts…. And to be very fair to E Jean Carroll… within 30 minutes of this becoming New York State law… she had filed against Donald Trump

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

"So we have a sexual assailant versus a child sniffing creep who cannot string a coherent sentence together.

It shouldn’t be like this what a joke.

Surely those two arseholes aren't the pinnacle of humanity in the USA. There must be someone better.

Someone like a King perhaps?"

Which king is American and eligible to stand for president?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wow the private hate messages I am getting and people think I am the crazy one. Why is it the ones with no avatars and do not post anything publicly on the forums have the most visceral comments privately. They messaged me I didn't them.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

"Wow the private hate messages I am getting and people think I am the crazy one. Why is it the ones with no avatars and do not post anything publicly on the forums have the most visceral comments privately. They messaged me I didn't them."

Happens all the time. It sucks balls.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ignore them Blu, I'm sure you do know they're the poor minded nobodies....!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ignore them Blu, I'm sure you do know they're the poor minded nobodies....!!

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I am use to it. To me ignoring them just makes it worse. People like that just let it fester if it makes them feel better about themselves that's good mental health for them. I know I can be a asshat sometimes the difference is I don't hide it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If the polling keeps trending the way it is and there is no improvement in the economy. People are going to overlook any charges brought against Trump. People remember low costs on everything during his presidency.

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma

"If the polling keeps trending the way it is and there is no improvement in the economy. People are going to overlook any charges brought against Trump. People remember low costs on everything during his presidency."

What does Trump bring to the people that someone like DeSantis wouldn’t, or vice versa.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What does Trump bring to the people that someone like DeSantis wouldn’t, or vice versa. "
Desantis hasn't announced yet. All I know is whoever has a solid plan to fix the economy is likely to win. If someone truly focuses on that it wouldn't matter what party. Everything else is put on the back burner. People just want more disposable income and cheaper prices.

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma

What does Trump bring to the people that someone like DeSantis wouldn’t, or vice versa. Desantis hasn't announced yet. All I know is whoever has a solid plan to fix the economy is likely to win. If someone truly focuses on that it wouldn't matter what party. Everything else is put on the back burner. People just want more disposable income and cheaper prices."

Which is what everyone wants

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Which is what everyone wants

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Well everyone gets to see Trump on CNN he is having a town hall. This should be interesting.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It looks like Trump going to get the nomination and a strong candidate for president. I think it is because he embodies the American spirit . He has been knocked around and still comes out on top. Never gives up.

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By *enny PR9TV/TS
over a year ago

Southport

"It looks like Trump going to get the nomination and a strong candidate for president. I think it is because he embodies the American spirit . He has been knocked around and still comes out on top. Never gives up."

Just like cancer.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

So if the Republicans reject raising the debt ceiling, which trashes the economy, people will vote for someone under active criminal indictment because the actions of Republicans are Biden's fault?

I know a lot of things vary by country, but I didn't think logic was one of them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So if the Republicans reject raising the debt ceiling, which trashes the economy, people will vote for someone under active criminal indictment because the actions of Republicans are Biden's fault?

I know a lot of things vary by country, but I didn't think logic was one of them

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You can go look at the polls. Honestly it's a long way off still. The local radio stations having democrats calling in are saying the same. If it is Biden vs Trump majority said Trump. Unless things change.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

So if the Republicans reject raising the debt ceiling, which trashes the economy, people will vote for someone under active criminal indictment because the actions of Republicans are Biden's fault?

I know a lot of things vary by country, but I didn't think logic was one of them

You can go look at the polls. Honestly it's a long way off still. The local radio stations having democrats calling in are saying the same. If it is Biden vs Trump majority said Trump. Unless things change. "

I don't doubt it, although I would want to know the methodology of the polls (I believe they target landlines, which by definition excludes younger people who don't have them?)

However, I'm not talking about what the polls say. I'm talking about the logic. If the debt ceiling isn't raised, something threatened by Republicans, which would be in part to pay for Trump's record deficit (Trump being a Republican), the economy will get worse. Therefore punish a Democrat. Anyone who thinks that makes sense is a moron

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By *rDiscretionXXXMan
over a year ago

Gilfach

"Honestly it's a long way off still. The local radio stations having democrats calling in are saying the same. If it is Biden vs Trump majority said Trump. Unless things change. "

I think they're missing an important thing. It depends on who Biden chooses at his running mate.

No one seriously thinks that Biden will make it through another 4 years, so if he picks someone competent and popular as a running mate, people may well vote for him in the expectation that they'll end up with someone else.

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By *idnight RamblerMan
over a year ago

Pershore

Seen through the prism of British eyes, Biden vs Trump is a grim prospect. Biden is patently anti-British by instinct and Trump is a dangerous loose cannon. Just my humble opinion.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

CNN should never have allowed that trump town hall car crash.. I don’t know if I was more saddened by all the lies, or the crowds reaction

That was basically a trump rally and CNN got played

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"CNN should never have allowed that trump town hall car crash.. I don’t know if I was more saddened by all the lies, or the crowds reaction

That was basically a trump rally and CNN got played"

They prob though they could highlight Trump's lies and hold him to account. They overlooked the fact Trump supporters don't care about his lies.

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