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"With the narrowing of the gap between the mainstream parties on policy, who’s switching to Reform UK?" Some guy I know, he wears a foil hat and thinks everyone is after him. | |||
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"With the narrowing of the gap between the mainstream parties on policy, who’s switching to Reform UK? Some guy I know, he wears a foil hat and thinks everyone is after him." Would that be Jussie smollett?  | |||
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"With the narrowing of the gap between the mainstream parties on policy, who’s switching to Reform UK?" Maybe people who think the Tories aren't hateful enough towards foriegners, people who think science isn't real and people who want teachers to be more racist? | |||
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"With the narrowing of the gap between the mainstream parties on policy, who’s switching to Reform UK?" Anything involving Richard Tice (and by extension Oakenshott) gets a massive swerve from me! | |||
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"With the narrowing of the gap between the mainstream parties on policy, who’s switching to Reform UK?" I won’t be but I think the tories are going to lose a lot of voters to the Reform Party | |||
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"Always think that name is ironic. 'Reform' in politics is generally associated with left leaning ideals and change, sometimes at the expense of older conventional ones. Whereas right leaning policies concentrate on traditionalism, or otherwise known as 'conservatism' "It is very deliberate branding | |||
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"Always think that name is ironic. 'Reform' in politics is generally associated with left leaning ideals and change, sometimes at the expense of older conventional ones. Whereas right leaning policies concentrate on traditionalism, or otherwise known as 'conservatism'
It is very deliberate branding"Indeed. Just more of the usual "words don't really mean anything anymore" | |||
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"But as for the op question, I don't see this narrowing happening from my perspective, if anything it's widening. " While both parties are pulling further to the right, and are still clearly different. I don't think Labour offer much of an alternative. | |||
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"Always think that name is ironic. 'Reform' in politics is generally associated with left leaning ideals and change, sometimes at the expense of older conventional ones. Whereas right leaning policies concentrate on traditionalism, or otherwise known as 'conservatism'
It is very deliberate branding
Indeed. Just more of the usual "words don't really mean anything anymore""A bit like the National Socialist German Workers' party | |||
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"But as for the op question, I don't see this narrowing happening from my perspective, if anything it's widening. While both parties are pulling further to the right, and are still clearly different. I don't think Labour offer much of an alternative." Labour are trying to hold the centre ground. However, we have been pulled so far to the right in recent years that Labour are still called lefties! | |||
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"Always think that name is ironic. 'Reform' in politics is generally associated with left leaning ideals and change, sometimes at the expense of older conventional ones. Whereas right leaning policies concentrate on traditionalism, or otherwise known as 'conservatism'
It is very deliberate branding
Indeed. Just more of the usual "words don't really mean anything anymore"
A bit like the National Socialist German Workers' party"And therefore - according to some modern commentators on the right - the left are Nazis. Might as well just call people poopyheads. It's just as meaningful | |||
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"But as for the op question, I don't see this narrowing happening from my perspective, if anything it's widening. While both parties are pulling further to the right, and are still clearly different. I don't think Labour offer much of an alternative. Labour are trying to hold the centre ground. However, we have been pulled so far to the right in recent years that Labour are still called lefties!" That is why I said "if anything it's widening", people have forgotten what neutrality is I think... | |||
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"Always think that name is ironic. 'Reform' in politics is generally associated with left leaning ideals and change, sometimes at the expense of older conventional ones. Whereas right leaning policies concentrate on traditionalism, or otherwise known as 'conservatism'
It is very deliberate branding
Indeed. Just more of the usual "words don't really mean anything anymore"
A bit like the National Socialist German Workers' party
And therefore - according to some modern commentators on the right - the left are Nazis.
Might as well just call people poopyheads. It's just as meaningful "“Poopyhead!” 
Ok I’ll get my coat and let myself out! | |||
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"Always think that name is ironic. 'Reform' in politics is generally associated with left leaning ideals and change, sometimes at the expense of older conventional ones. Whereas right leaning policies concentrate on traditionalism, or otherwise known as 'conservatism'
It is very deliberate branding
Indeed. Just more of the usual "words don't really mean anything anymore"
A bit like the National Socialist German Workers' party
And therefore - according to some modern commentators on the right - the left are Nazis.
Might as well just call people poopyheads. It's just as meaningful
“Poopyhead!”
Ok I’ll get my coat and let myself out!"
I'm not saying you're calling anyone any names. In case that's not clear!
I'm looking forward to a day when we stop abusing language | |||
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"Always think that name is ironic. 'Reform' in politics is generally associated with left leaning ideals and change, sometimes at the expense of older conventional ones. Whereas right leaning policies concentrate on traditionalism, or otherwise known as 'conservatism'
It is very deliberate branding
Indeed. Just more of the usual "words don't really mean anything anymore"
A bit like the National Socialist German Workers' party
And therefore - according to some modern commentators on the right - the left are Nazis.
Might as well just call people poopyheads. It's just as meaningful
“Poopyhead!”
Ok I’ll get my coat and let myself out!
I'm not saying you're calling anyone any names. In case that's not clear!
I'm looking forward to a day when we stop abusing language "I know you’re not. You are correct that the use of words becomes meaningless when appropriated for branding purposes. Only whackos think the Nazis were Socialists (“it’s in their name duh!”). Likewise using “Reform” is an appeal to working classes too. People need to look into Tice before giving their support. | |||
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"Always think that name is ironic. 'Reform' in politics is generally associated with left leaning ideals and change, sometimes at the expense of older conventional ones. Whereas right leaning policies concentrate on traditionalism, or otherwise known as 'conservatism'
It is very deliberate branding
Indeed. Just more of the usual "words don't really mean anything anymore"
A bit like the National Socialist German Workers' party
And therefore - according to some modern commentators on the right - the left are Nazis.
Might as well just call people poopyheads. It's just as meaningful
“Poopyhead!”
Ok I’ll get my coat and let myself out!
I'm not saying you're calling anyone any names. In case that's not clear!
I'm looking forward to a day when we stop abusing language
I know you’re not. You are correct that the use of words becomes meaningless when appropriated for branding purposes. Only whackos think the Nazis were Socialists (“it’s in their name duh!”). Likewise using “Reform” is an appeal to working classes too. People need to look into Tice before giving their support."It's a shame that people try to go after the working class by so overtly lying to them. What about policies that would meaningfully improve their lives, rather than dogwhistles? *Tumble420 goes by* | |||
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"Always think that name is ironic. 'Reform' in politics is generally associated with left leaning ideals and change, sometimes at the expense of older conventional ones. Whereas right leaning policies concentrate on traditionalism, or otherwise known as 'conservatism'
It is very deliberate branding
Indeed. Just more of the usual "words don't really mean anything anymore"
A bit like the National Socialist German Workers' party
And therefore - according to some modern commentators on the right - the left are Nazis.
Might as well just call people poopyheads. It's just as meaningful
“Poopyhead!”
Ok I’ll get my coat and let myself out!
I'm not saying you're calling anyone any names. In case that's not clear!
I'm looking forward to a day when we stop abusing language
I know you’re not. You are correct that the use of words becomes meaningless when appropriated for branding purposes. Only whackos think the Nazis were Socialists (“it’s in their name duh!”). Likewise using “Reform” is an appeal to working classes too. People need to look into Tice before giving their support.
It's a shame that people try to go after the working class by so overtly lying to them.
What about policies that would meaningfully improve their lives, rather than dogwhistles? *Tumble420 goes by*"it's less their policies make the world worse (although some possibly do) but it's all talk, no action. "We will cut immigration, get to zero waiting lists all while lowering taxes" It's all back to the idea the reason we aren't on utopia is because we just didnt BELIEVE enough. It's kinda like using The Secret as a policy. | |||
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"Always think that name is ironic. 'Reform' in politics is generally associated with left leaning ideals and change, sometimes at the expense of older conventional ones. Whereas right leaning policies concentrate on traditionalism, or otherwise known as 'conservatism'
It is very deliberate branding
Indeed. Just more of the usual "words don't really mean anything anymore"
A bit like the National Socialist German Workers' party
And therefore - according to some modern commentators on the right - the left are Nazis.
Might as well just call people poopyheads. It's just as meaningful
“Poopyhead!”
Ok I’ll get my coat and let myself out!
I'm not saying you're calling anyone any names. In case that's not clear!
I'm looking forward to a day when we stop abusing language
I know you’re not. You are correct that the use of words becomes meaningless when appropriated for branding purposes. Only whackos think the Nazis were Socialists (“it’s in their name duh!”). Likewise using “Reform” is an appeal to working classes too. People need to look into Tice before giving their support.
It's a shame that people try to go after the working class by so overtly lying to them.
What about policies that would meaningfully improve their lives, rather than dogwhistles? *Tumble420 goes by*it's less their policies make the world worse (although some possibly do) but it's all talk, no action.
"We will cut immigration, get to zero waiting lists all while lowering taxes"
It's all back to the idea the reason we aren't on utopia is because we just didnt BELIEVE enough.
It's kinda like using The Secret as a policy.
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"Always think that name is ironic. 'Reform' in politics is generally associated with left leaning ideals and change, sometimes at the expense of older conventional ones. Whereas right leaning policies concentrate on traditionalism, or otherwise known as 'conservatism'
It is very deliberate branding
Indeed. Just more of the usual "words don't really mean anything anymore"
A bit like the National Socialist German Workers' party
And therefore - according to some modern commentators on the right - the left are Nazis.
Might as well just call people poopyheads. It's just as meaningful
“Poopyhead!”
Ok I’ll get my coat and let myself out!
I'm not saying you're calling anyone any names. In case that's not clear!
I'm looking forward to a day when we stop abusing language
I know you’re not. You are correct that the use of words becomes meaningless when appropriated for branding purposes. Only whackos think the Nazis were Socialists (“it’s in their name duh!”). Likewise using “Reform” is an appeal to working classes too. People need to look into Tice before giving their support.
It's a shame that people try to go after the working class by so overtly lying to them.
What about policies that would meaningfully improve their lives, rather than dogwhistles? *Tumble420 goes by*it's less their policies make the world worse (although some possibly do) but it's all talk, no action.
"We will cut immigration, get to zero waiting lists all while lowering taxes"
It's all back to the idea the reason we aren't on utopia is because we just didnt BELIEVE enough.
It's kinda like using The Secret as a policy.
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"With the narrowing of the gap between the mainstream parties on policy, who’s switching to Reform UK?" I suppose there will be people who think the Brexit will work if it’s done properly (whatever that actually means) and have been convinced that it hasn’t been done properly yet. They might give Tice, Farage and Widdecombe their vote. Then again, surely the wider population have heard all this before?? People used to say that Communism has only never really worked because it wasn’t done properly. It’s all just populist bollocks designed to manipulate the lower end of the demographic scale with yet more lies. | |||
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"With the narrowing of the gap between the mainstream parties on policy, who’s switching to Reform UK? I suppose there will be people who think the Brexit will work if it’s done properly (whatever that actually means) and have been convinced that it hasn’t been done properly yet. They might give Tice, Farage and Widdecombe their vote. Then again, surely the wider population have heard all this before?? People used to say that Communism has only never really worked because it wasn’t done properly. It’s all just populist bollocks designed to manipulate the lower end of the demographic scale with yet more lies. " I'm inclined to think communism would work if not for humans in charge. As people can't be trusted with power, let's not try that again. And work on the systems that let the powerful get away with so much. And yeah. It's yet more, tear everything up and make my enemies suffer. I'm more in favour of making systems and structures work (including tearing them down and starting again, but not tearing them down without a robust plan!) | |||
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"With the narrowing of the gap between the mainstream parties on policy, who’s switching to Reform UK? I suppose there will be people who think the Brexit will work if it’s done properly (whatever that actually means) and have been convinced that it hasn’t been done properly yet. They might give Tice, Farage and Widdecombe their vote. Then again, surely the wider population have heard all this before?? People used to say that Communism has only never really worked because it wasn’t done properly. It’s all just populist bollocks designed to manipulate the lower end of the demographic scale with yet more lies. I'm inclined to think communism would work if not for humans in charge. As people can't be trusted with power, let's not try that again. And work on the systems that let the powerful get away with so much. And yeah. It's yet more, tear everything up and make my enemies suffer. I'm more in favour of making systems and structures work (including tearing them down and starting again, but not tearing them down without a robust plan!)" All animals are equal but some are more equal than others. | |||
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"With the narrowing of the gap between the mainstream parties on policy, who’s switching to Reform UK? I suppose there will be people who think the Brexit will work if it’s done properly (whatever that actually means) and have been convinced that it hasn’t been done properly yet. They might give Tice, Farage and Widdecombe their vote. Then again, surely the wider population have heard all this before?? People used to say that Communism has only never really worked because it wasn’t done properly. It’s all just populist bollocks designed to manipulate the lower end of the demographic scale with yet more lies. I'm inclined to think communism would work if not for humans in charge. As people can't be trusted with power, let's not try that again. And work on the systems that let the powerful get away with so much. And yeah. It's yet more, tear everything up and make my enemies suffer. I'm more in favour of making systems and structures work (including tearing them down and starting again, but not tearing them down without a robust plan!) All animals are equal but some are more equal than others." Indeed. Hence why animals can't be trusted with such a system, including us | |||
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"With the narrowing of the gap between the mainstream parties on policy, who’s switching to Reform UK? Some guy I know, he wears a foil hat and thinks everyone is after him. Would that be Jussie smollett? "Lol | |||
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"With the narrowing of the gap between the mainstream parties on policy, who’s switching to Reform UK? I won’t be but I think the tories are going to lose a lot of voters to the Reform Party " They will suffer more than other parties to Reform I believe. I won't be voting Tory at the GE so looking for an alternative. I don't think Reform will be my alternative though | |||
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"With the narrowing of the gap between the mainstream parties on policy, who’s switching to Reform UK? I won’t be but I think the tories are going to lose a lot of voters to the Reform Party They will suffer more than other parties to Reform I believe. I won't be voting Tory at the GE so looking for an alternative. I don't think Reform will be my alternative though" Out of curiosity: what will your alternative be? | |||
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"With the narrowing of the gap between the mainstream parties on policy, who’s switching to Reform UK? I won’t be but I think the tories are going to lose a lot of voters to the Reform Party They will suffer more than other parties to Reform I believe. I won't be voting Tory at the GE so looking for an alternative. I don't think Reform will be my alternative though Out of curiosity: what will your alternative be?" That's undecided as yet so very much work in progress. It seems opposition parties are not keen on giving much detail of their policies this far from the GE which does not help. It may come down to seeing if any independent runs in my area that is half decent | |||
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"So this tells me that the Tory party implosion to try and retain the right of the party by rolling out progressively more anti-everything rhetoric leading to Brexit and small boat bs has all been a waste of time. In fact, the shrill minority got the outcomes they wanted and are going to tear the place down anyway because they want something even more extreme..." It's the shrill minority that has been stopping the Rwanda flights, enabled Bercow to thwart Brexit for so long and is busy redesigning the English language to make criminals out of ordinary people saying 'whiter than white', creating 72 genders and so on and so forth. | |||
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"So this tells me that the Tory party implosion to try and retain the right of the party by rolling out progressively more anti-everything rhetoric leading to Brexit and small boat bs has all been a waste of time. In fact, the shrill minority got the outcomes they wanted and are going to tear the place down anyway because they want something even more extreme... It's the shrill minority that has been stopping the Rwanda flights, enabled Bercow to thwart Brexit for so long and is busy redesigning the English language to make criminals out of ordinary people saying 'whiter than white', creating 72 genders and so on and so forth. " Sad times when it's the minority who don't want to spunk 100s of millions trafficking humans to Africa, who understand the brexit clusterfuck, and who aren't prejudice against people identifying how they want to. Personally I have more faith in people than you, and am not sure it's the minority. | |||
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"So this tells me that the Tory party implosion to try and retain the right of the party by rolling out progressively more anti-everything rhetoric leading to Brexit and small boat bs has all been a waste of time. In fact, the shrill minority got the outcomes they wanted and are going to tear the place down anyway because they want something even more extreme... It's the shrill minority that has been stopping the Rwanda flights, enabled Bercow to thwart Brexit for so long and is busy redesigning the English language to make criminals out of ordinary people saying 'whiter than white', creating 72 genders and so on and so forth. " Fortunately my morals aren't derived from the people around me. Right is right and wrong is wrong. | |||
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"So this tells me that the Tory party implosion to try and retain the right of the party by rolling out progressively more anti-everything rhetoric leading to Brexit and small boat bs has all been a waste of time. In fact, the shrill minority got the outcomes they wanted and are going to tear the place down anyway because they want something even more extreme... It's the shrill minority that has been stopping the Rwanda flights, enabled Bercow to thwart Brexit for so long and is busy redesigning the English language to make criminals out of ordinary people saying 'whiter than white', creating 72 genders and so on and so forth. " I smell more bs from you, unless someone has actually been convicted of saying 'whiter than white'..? Was it Mr Persil or Mr glo white by any chance?  | |||
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"On the basis that I will not vote Tory, every other party is an option. I certainly won't be swayed by online opinion " What will you be swayed by? | |||
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"You only need to look at the vile nonsense spouted by the Crypto Fascists of Farage and the ERG to see the increased hate and intolerance that is spreading within political discourse. Once you start normalising this it becomes a very slippery slope as history has repeatedly shown." You can't use quotes from red dwarf. smeg heads rule okay. ommm ommm  | |||
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"You only need to look at the vile nonsense spouted by the Crypto Fascists of Farage and the ERG to see the increased hate and intolerance that is spreading within political discourse. Once you start normalising this it becomes a very slippery slope as history has repeatedly shown. You can't use quotes from red dwarf. smeg heads rule okay. ommm ommm "Smoke me a kipper. | |||
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"I want to destroy the UK, not reform it. " Very disturbing post..... | |||
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"So dose any one know where Reform UK are at Do they have the candidates and the money to through at an election. So 4,411 seats each needs a £500 Deposit £2.2 Million dose Reform UK have that number standing or that amount of cash?" Their funding is not that good anymore. Mostly from individuals like Jeremy Hosking who want the most brutally damaging form of brexit possible. | |||
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"I want to destroy the UK, not reform it. Very disturbing post....." I suspect he just means he wants Scotland to be out of the UK. (But his phrasing sounded a bit ominous.) | |||
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"I want to destroy the UK, not reform it. Very disturbing post..... I suspect he just means he wants Scotland to be out of the UK. (But his phrasing sounded a bit ominous.)" If they don't have the candidates it will be pointless | |||
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"I can think of worse options " Which are the worse options? | |||
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"I can think of worse options Which are the worse options?" Far left and far right parties | |||
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"I can think of worse options Which are the worse options? Far left and far right parties " Pretty sure Reform could be classed as "far right". Which parties in the UK are "far left"? | |||
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"I can think of worse options Which are the worse options? Far left and far right parties Pretty sure Reform could be classed as "far right". Which parties in the UK are "far left"?" I disagree | |||
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"I can think of worse options Which are the worse options? Far left and far right parties Pretty sure Reform could be classed as "far right". Which parties in the UK are "far left"? I disagree " Fair enough, which parties are far right or far left that you mentioned? | |||
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"I can think of worse options Which are the worse options? Far left and far right parties Pretty sure Reform could be classed as "far right". Which parties in the UK are "far left"? I disagree Fair enough, which parties are far right or far left that you mentioned?" Factions of the labour and Tory party amongst others...I'm not going to be interviewed by you | |||
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"I can think of worse options Which are the worse options? Far left and far right parties Pretty sure Reform could be classed as "far right". Which parties in the UK are "far left"? I disagree Fair enough, which parties are far right or far left that you mentioned? Factions of the labour and Tory party amongst others...I'm not going to be interviewed by you " Okay. Just asking for clarification. No need to get shirty. | |||
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"I can think of worse options Which are the worse options? Far left and far right parties Pretty sure Reform could be classed as "far right". Which parties in the UK are "far left"? I disagree Fair enough, which parties are far right or far left that you mentioned? Factions of the labour and Tory party amongst others...I'm not going to be interviewed by you Okay. Just asking for clarification. No need to get shirty." No shirtiness intended by fellow labour voter | |||
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"I can think of worse options Which are the worse options? Far left and far right parties Pretty sure Reform could be classed as "far right". Which parties in the UK are "far left"? I disagree Fair enough, which parties are far right or far left that you mentioned? Factions of the labour and Tory party amongst others...I'm not going to be interviewed by you Okay. Just asking for clarification. No need to get shirty. No shirtiness intended by fellow labour voter" Not a labour voter, but glad there's no shirtiness. I'm genuinely interested in how people perceive the British political parties on the left/right spectrum. | |||
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"With the narrowing of the gap between the mainstream parties on policy, who’s switching to Reform UK?" In the current political climate, there is no chance of anyone outside of the big main parties getting in. | |||
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"With the narrowing of the gap between the mainstream parties on policy, who’s switching to Reform UK? In the current political climate, there is no chance of anyone outside of the big main parties getting in." Still worth voting for smaller parties. In my opinion. If people don't think the Tories are hard line enough on foriegners, think that teachers aren't racist enough or that science isn't real. Then it's worth voting for this lot. If enough people do, they will force the main parties to take up some of their policies. Basically the entire point of the green party is to put some pressure on Labour to have better environmental policies. | |||
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"I'm really struggling to decide who to vote for at the moment as I'm feeling politically homeless. Wouldn't vote Labour even if I was paid a million quid to do so. Can't vote Conservative at the moment after what they did to Boris and their recent infighting. I'm not voting for a party with a backstabbing snake at the helm - a shame really, because my local MP is brilliant and had extremely large shoes to fill after the murder of her predecessor in 2021" I can't get past 'what they did to Boris'. Boris did to Boris, no one else | |||
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"I'm really struggling to decide who to vote for at the moment as I'm feeling politically homeless. Wouldn't vote Labour even if I was paid a million quid to do so. Can't vote Conservative at the moment after what they did to Boris and their recent infighting. I'm not voting for a party with a backstabbing snake at the helm - a shame really, because my local MP is brilliant and had extremely large shoes to fill after the murder of her predecessor in 2021" Sunak is a much better PM and politician than Boris but I think a lot of people share your opinion  | |||
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"I'm really struggling to decide who to vote for at the moment as I'm feeling politically homeless. Wouldn't vote Labour even if I was paid a million quid to do so. Can't vote Conservative at the moment after what they did to Boris and their recent infighting. I'm not voting for a party with a backstabbing snake at the helm - a shame really, because my local MP is brilliant and had extremely large shoes to fill after the murder of her predecessor in 2021" If anyone does offer you a million to vote labour, can you politely decline, I don't want you upsetting them, and send them my way | |||
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"I'm really struggling to decide who to vote for at the moment as I'm feeling politically homeless. Wouldn't vote Labour even if I was paid a million quid to do so. Can't vote Conservative at the moment after what they did to Boris and their recent infighting. I'm not voting for a party with a backstabbing snake at the helm - a shame really, because my local MP is brilliant and had extremely large shoes to fill after the murder of her predecessor in 2021" It would be terrible to vote Labour wouldn’t it? I mean who would want to see GDP per capita higher than it has ever been under Blair/Brown. And we most certainly don’t want shorter NHS waiting queue’s and a longer average lifespan than we have today. As for a fairer society … No way. We want more millionaires and billionaires and we want the wealth gap to continue getting wider. We know our place. | |||
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"I'm really struggling to decide who to vote for at the moment as I'm feeling politically homeless. Wouldn't vote Labour even if I was paid a million quid to do so. Can't vote Conservative at the moment after what they did to Boris and their recent infighting. I'm not voting for a party with a backstabbing snake at the helm - a shame really, because my local MP is brilliant and had extremely large shoes to fill after the murder of her predecessor in 2021 If anyone does offer you a million to vote labour, can you politely decline, I don't want you upsetting them, and send them my way "Can confirm, would also vote Labour for a million quid. Would probably even vote Reform for the mil. | |||
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"With the narrowing of the gap between the mainstream parties on policy, who’s switching to Reform UK? In the current political climate, there is no chance of anyone outside of the big main parties getting in. Still worth voting for smaller parties. In my opinion. If people don't think the Tories are hard line enough on foriegners, think that teachers aren't racist enough or that science isn't real. Then it's worth voting for this lot. If enough people do, they will force the main parties to take up some of their policies. Basically the entire point of the green party is to put some pressure on Labour to have better environmental policies. " If they don't win a seat in the commons how can they apply this pressure. Personly I think we will be back to a hung parliament but it could be Labour joining with lib to form a coalition, witch could be a good mix. | |||
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"With the narrowing of the gap between the mainstream parties on policy, who’s switching to Reform UK? In the current political climate, there is no chance of anyone outside of the big main parties getting in. Still worth voting for smaller parties. In my opinion. If people don't think the Tories are hard line enough on foriegners, think that teachers aren't racist enough or that science isn't real. Then it's worth voting for this lot. If enough people do, they will force the main parties to take up some of their policies. Basically the entire point of the green party is to put some pressure on Labour to have better environmental policies. If they don't win a seat in the commons how can they apply this pressure. Personly I think we will be back to a hung parliament but it could be Labour joining with lib to form a coalition, witch could be a good mix." UKIP didn't win any seats and they applied enough pressure to the Tories to pull them further to the right. As an example. Personally, I think we're in for more of the same Tory rule. | |||
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"With the narrowing of the gap between the mainstream parties on policy, who’s switching to Reform UK? In the current political climate, there is no chance of anyone outside of the big main parties getting in. Still worth voting for smaller parties. In my opinion. If people don't think the Tories are hard line enough on foriegners, think that teachers aren't racist enough or that science isn't real. Then it's worth voting for this lot. If enough people do, they will force the main parties to take up some of their policies. Basically the entire point of the green party is to put some pressure on Labour to have better environmental policies. If they don't win a seat in the commons how can they apply this pressure. Personly I think we will be back to a hung parliament but it could be Labour joining with lib to form a coalition, witch could be a good mix. UKIP didn't win any seats and they applied enough pressure to the Tories to pull them further to the right. As an example. Personally, I think we're in for more of the same Tory rule. " Yet ukip gained more vote than the lib/dens which is something that is often overlooked by those arguing for PR | |||
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"With the narrowing of the gap between the mainstream parties on policy, who’s switching to Reform UK? In the current political climate, there is no chance of anyone outside of the big main parties getting in. Still worth voting for smaller parties. In my opinion. If people don't think the Tories are hard line enough on foriegners, think that teachers aren't racist enough or that science isn't real. Then it's worth voting for this lot. If enough people do, they will force the main parties to take up some of their policies. Basically the entire point of the green party is to put some pressure on Labour to have better environmental policies. If they don't win a seat in the commons how can they apply this pressure. Personly I think we will be back to a hung parliament but it could be Labour joining with lib to form a coalition, witch could be a good mix. UKIP didn't win any seats and they applied enough pressure to the Tories to pull them further to the right. As an example. Personally, I think we're in for more of the same Tory rule. Yet ukip gained more vote than the lib/dens which is something that is often overlooked by those arguing for PR " Yeah, so people who voted for them got what the wanted via pressure applied to the Tories. They had to adopt more UKIP style policies and rhetoric to win back voters who had defected. Same with the greens and Labour. To me, this is the point of voting for smaller parties. | |||
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"Probably will vote for Reform Party next year in the London Mayor election, had a good chat with their candidate Howard Cox a couple of weeks ago. Seems down to earth" A man who thinks science isn't real doesn't seem like a good choice to me. But fair play to you. | |||
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"Probably will vote for Reform Party next year in the London Mayor election, had a good chat with their candidate Howard Cox a couple of weeks ago. Seems down to earth A man who thinks science isn't real doesn't seem like a good choice to me. But fair play to you. " Well obviously there's other things that me and him dont agree on with science being one of them but mostly hold the same views on certain issues | |||
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"Probably will vote for Reform Party next year in the London Mayor election, had a good chat with their candidate Howard Cox a couple of weeks ago. Seems down to earth A man who thinks science isn't real doesn't seem like a good choice to me. But fair play to you. Well obviously there's other things that me and him dont agree on with science being one of them but mostly hold the same views on certain issues" I think most people would struggle to find a candidate / party that supports all of their views. Not looked into this party much but if it is the one I'm thinking of then it's Richard Tice running it and is the ukip or brexit party rebranded. Maybe an election is closer than first thought after the last couple of days so may need to read up a bit on them | |||
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"Probably will vote for Reform Party next year in the London Mayor election, had a good chat with their candidate Howard Cox a couple of weeks ago. Seems down to earth A man who thinks science isn't real doesn't seem like a good choice to me. But fair play to you. Well obviously there's other things that me and him dont agree on with science being one of them but mostly hold the same views on certain issues" Fair enough. Obviously the same for me, there's no party or candidate that exactly matches. I guess for me not understanding what science is, is a pretty big red flag. | |||
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"I'd like to know how Howard Cox is anti science. Can't find much. " I think he believes climate change happens but it's not a crisis and also not manmade | |||
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"I'd like to know how Howard Cox is anti science. Can't find much. I think he believes climate change happens but it's not a crisis and also not manmade" If he believes climate change happens then he surely can't be anti science? | |||
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"I'd like to know how Howard Cox is anti science. Can't find much. I think he believes climate change happens but it's not a crisis and also not manmade If he believes climate change happens then he surely can't be anti science?" The prevailing scientific opinion is it is manmade and he doesn't agree. Whether it is a crisis is probably subjective and depends on what one calls a crisis. | |||
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"I'd like to know how Howard Cox is anti science. Can't find much. I think he believes climate change happens but it's not a crisis and also not manmade If he believes climate change happens then he surely can't be anti science? The prevailing scientific opinion is it is manmade and he doesn't agree. Whether it is a crisis is probably subjective and depends on what one calls a crisis." Fair enough. I see these labels and believe an awful lot if them are not appropriate. Whether climate change is a crisis will never be agreed. | |||
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"Aye, right. For those angry englishers who find the fucking Tories too Liberal. Fuck right off, reform. " Who's angry? | |||
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"Aye, right. For those angry englishers who find the fucking Tories too Liberal. Fuck right off, reform. Who's angry? "More than you could ever know. Righteous anger. | |||
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"Actually just remembered Howard Cox told me he does believe there's a problem with the climate but just doesn't believe its as bad as the scientice make it out to be" How did you feel about him saying so blatantly that he doesn't think science this? Basically mean he doesn't understand what science is and doesn't understand how science works. | |||
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