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"You see people on here who don't want to meet people who support a different party to them. Are they being serious ? "I'll take your word for that, never come across that before | |||
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"What's the difference?" There is no difference, they're the same wing of the same bird. They both want the exact same end game. C | |||
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"What's the difference? Neymar and Mohamed Salah." Don't know them. To be honest I don't know the difference between left and right wing, whatever it means. | |||
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"You see people on here who don't want to meet people who support a different party to them. Are they being serious ?
I'll take your word for that, never come across that before"I've seen it on profiles | |||
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"What's the difference? There is no difference, they're the same wing of the same bird. They both want the exact same end game. C" Gotcha | |||
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"Don't like people who are right wing but I also don't like luney left wing ideological people too" So much so you seek out year old threads about them | |||
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"Don't like people who are right wing but I also don't like luney left wing ideological people too" See you like to sit on the fence though 🤣🤣 Mr | |||
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"In summary … left wing = for the benefit of the majority right wing = for the benefit of the individual " Not sure how the majority benefitted under Stalin or the Kim dynasty? | |||
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"Left wing governments do not benefit the majority, just look at how Stalin, Maduro, Mugabe and any other lunatic left wing leader run their countries. Thank god Jeremy Corbyn never became Prime Minister of the U.K" We have all the information in the world at our fingertips, and this old nonsense still gets trotted out. | |||
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"In summary … left wing = for the benefit of the majority right wing = for the benefit of the individual " You mean “in theory”. | |||
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"Left wing governments do not benefit the majority, just look at how Stalin, Maduro, Mugabe and any other lunatic left wing leader run their countries. Thank god Jeremy Corbyn never became Prime Minister of the U.K We have all the information in the world at our fingertips, and this old nonsense still gets trotted out." but what im saying isnt my opinion its fact | |||
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"You see people on here who don't want to meet people who support a different party to them. Are they being serious ? "that was the same over brexit but we all know when it comes to sex who gives a fuck lol | |||
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"Could always ask the 20 something year old lad that was stood at the front of one the protests with a newspaper. The title in red with a hammer and sickle, I bet his mum and dad and grandparents are really proud of him. If he likes the idea, then I'm sure Putin would welcome him with open arms and send him the front. Seems they don't teach much in schools these days." Hammer and Sickle. As in the USSR. ie the Communist state that broke apart. What’s that got to do with Russia? You really think Russia is a left wing state? What is it they should be teaching? | |||
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"What's the difference?" The far left and far right are one and the same, both persecute and blame minorities they don't like for the world's ills, promote tribalism and division and are not interested in any form of compromise. The are not opposites, more mirror images. | |||
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"What's the difference? The far left and far right are one and the same, both persecute and blame minorities they don't like for the world's ills, promote tribalism and division and are not interested in any form of compromise. The are not opposites, more mirror images." Not a fan of either term, in case anyone cares! | |||
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"What's the difference? The far left and far right are one and the same, both persecute and blame minorities they don't like for the world's ills, promote tribalism and division and are not interested in any form of compromise. The are not opposites, more mirror images." | |||
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"You can stand on the left side of the pavement or the right side of the pavement either way you are stood on the same pavement." But on one side you are closer to getting knocked down so it's more dangerous | |||
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"You can stand on the left side of the pavement or the right side of the pavement either way you are stood on the same pavement. But on one side you are closer to getting knocked down so it's more dangerous" If everyone stands in the middle of the pavement, then there's no space to go anywhere, and we're stuck. | |||
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" If everyone stands in the middle of the pavement, then there's no space to go anywhere, and we're stuck." we can go down the drain | |||
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"What's the difference? The far left and far right are one and the same, both persecute and blame minorities they don't like for the world's ills, promote tribalism and division and are not interested in any form of compromise. The are not opposites, more mirror images."
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"What's the difference? The far left and far right are one and the same, both persecute and blame minorities they don't like for the world's ills, promote tribalism and division and are not interested in any form of compromise. The are not opposites, more mirror images.
Horseshoe theory is real"You can't say that. I got battered in here for saying it not so long ago  | |||
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"What's the difference? The far left and far right are one and the same, both persecute and blame minorities they don't like for the world's ills, promote tribalism and division and are not interested in any form of compromise. The are not opposites, more mirror images.
Horseshoe theory is real
You can't say that. I got battered in here for saying it not so long ago "I guess by the ones who believe that USSR under Stalin and China under Mao didn't follow "real socialism" | |||
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"What's the difference? The far left and far right are one and the same, both persecute and blame minorities they don't like for the world's ills, promote tribalism and division and are not interested in any form of compromise. The are not opposites, more mirror images.
Horseshoe theory is real
You can't say that. I got battered in here for saying it not so long ago
I guess by the ones who believe that USSR under Stalin and China under Mao didn't follow "real socialism"" | |||
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"What's the difference? The far left and far right are one and the same, both persecute and blame minorities they don't like for the world's ills, promote tribalism and division and are not interested in any form of compromise. The are not opposites, more mirror images.
Horseshoe theory is real
You can't say that. I got battered in here for saying it not so long ago "Did you? Must have missed that. I recall a good discussion but of course it could have been another thread | |||
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"What's the difference? The far left and far right are one and the same, both persecute and blame minorities they don't like for the world's ills, promote tribalism and division and are not interested in any form of compromise. The are not opposites, more mirror images.
Horseshoe theory is real
You can't say that. I got battered in here for saying it not so long ago
I guess by the ones who believe that USSR under Stalin and China under Mao didn't follow "real socialism""Oh dear, if only the world was simple without mutable labels and shifting definitions that evolve over time or had singular positions on a political spectrum rather than a broad range really requiring sub-definitions. Pesky thing language | |||
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"What's the difference? The far left and far right are one and the same, both persecute and blame minorities they don't like for the world's ills, promote tribalism and division and are not interested in any form of compromise. The are not opposites, more mirror images.
Horseshoe theory is real
You can't say that. I got battered in here for saying it not so long ago
I guess by the ones who believe that USSR under Stalin and China under Mao didn't follow "real socialism"
Oh dear, if only the world was simple without mutable labels and shifting definitions that evolve over time or had singular positions on a political spectrum rather than a broad range really requiring sub-definitions. Pesky thing language ""Far left" and "Far right" are reasonably well defined, aren't they? | |||
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"What's the difference? The far left and far right are one and the same, both persecute and blame minorities they don't like for the world's ills, promote tribalism and division and are not interested in any form of compromise. The are not opposites, more mirror images.
Horseshoe theory is real
You can't say that. I got battered in here for saying it not so long ago
I guess by the ones who believe that USSR under Stalin and China under Mao didn't follow "real socialism"
Oh dear, if only the world was simple without mutable labels and shifting definitions that evolve over time or had singular positions on a political spectrum rather than a broad range really requiring sub-definitions. Pesky thing language
"Far left" and "Far right" are reasonably well defined, aren't they?"You were talking about “socialism” | |||
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"Thing is about people with left wing ideals is they quick to call other people racists, sexist etc when someone doesn't agree with their views but don't realise they're racist and sexist themselves " This sounds solid. Do you have any real life examples of this? | |||
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"Thing is about people with left wing ideals is they quick to call other people racists, sexist etc when someone doesn't agree with their views but don't realise they're racist and sexist themselves " coildnt agree more fab is a great example of this | |||
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"Thing is about people with left wing ideals is they quick to call other people racists, sexist etc when someone doesn't agree with their views but don't realise they're racist and sexist themselves coildnt agree more fab is a great example of this " Ace. Two of you. You should have some solid real life examples of this. | |||
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"Thing is about people with left wing ideals is they quick to call other people racists, sexist etc when someone doesn't agree with their views but don't realise they're racist and sexist themselves coildnt agree more fab is a great example of this Ace. Two of you. You should have some solid real life examples of this." Recently, there was a Glaswegian fellow who posted quite strongly about racism (page and politics indicated left leaning, at the very least). On his page, he had a video of a non-white person with a clear non-white, non-British accent. In this video, she clearly said, in a hurt/distressed tone, "no video!". When called out on this, specifically around racism/power imbalance, there was no response. The video (reported to admin) was removed, as was the thread where he was called out on it. The question asked was, would he have done the same to a white British woman? Does he accept that taking and then posting that video is a red flag for racism/sexism? It's clearly exploiting a power imbalance, at the very least. | |||
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"Thing is about people with left wing ideals is they quick to call other people racists, sexist etc when someone doesn't agree with their views but don't realise they're racist and sexist themselves coildnt agree more fab is a great example of this Ace. Two of you. You should have some solid real life examples of this." ok do you agree that Labour are left wing? | |||
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"Thing is about people with left wing ideals is they quick to call other people racists, sexist etc when someone doesn't agree with their views but don't realise they're racist and sexist themselves coildnt agree more fab is a great example of this Ace. Two of you. You should have some solid real life examples of this. Recently, there was a Glaswegian fellow who posted quite strongly about racism (page and politics indicated left leaning, at the very least). On his page, he had a video of a non-white person with a clear non-white, non-British accent. In this video, she clearly said, in a hurt/distressed tone, "no video!". When called out on this, specifically around racism/power imbalance, there was no response. The video (reported to admin) was removed, as was the thread where he was called out on it. The question asked was, would he have done the same to a white British woman? Does he accept that taking and then posting that video is a red flag for racism/sexism? It's clearly exploiting a power imbalance, at the very least." I appreciate that it's difficult to articulate a detailed point in a few lines on a forum. But I'm not sure I understand, what's the implication of a video with a woman saying "no video"? | |||
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"Thing is about people with left wing ideals is they quick to call other people racists, sexist etc when someone doesn't agree with their views but don't realise they're racist and sexist themselves coildnt agree more fab is a great example of this Ace. Two of you. You should have some solid real life examples of this. ok do you agree that Labour are left wing?" No sure where you're going with this but okay. Labour are centre or centre left. | |||
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"Thing is about people with left wing ideals is they quick to call other people racists, sexist etc when someone doesn't agree with their views but don't realise they're racist and sexist themselves coildnt agree more fab is a great example of this Ace. Two of you. You should have some solid real life examples of this. ok do you agree that Labour are left wing? No sure where you're going with this but okay. Labour are centre or centre left." No they left wing but anyways is it fair to say that the BNP who were investigated by the EHRC to be racist can be applied to Labour since they were the only 2 political parties to be investigated by the EHRC? | |||
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"Thing is about people with left wing ideals is they quick to call other people racists, sexist etc when someone doesn't agree with their views but don't realise they're racist and sexist themselves coildnt agree more fab is a great example of this Ace. Two of you. You should have some solid real life examples of this. ok do you agree that Labour are left wing? No sure where you're going with this but okay. Labour are centre or centre left. No they left wing but anyways is it fair to say that the BNP who were investigated by the EHRC to be racist can be applied to Labour since they were the only 2 political parties to be investigated by the EHRC?" Interesting. Anyway, to get back on track you were about to give me an example of someone who is: 1. A person "with left wing ideals" 2. "quick to call other people racists, sexist etc when someone doesn't agree with their views" 3. "but don't realise they're racist and sexist". You seem extremely sure. So must be easy to roll out a solid example. | |||
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"Thing is about people with left wing ideals is they quick to call other people racists, sexist etc when someone doesn't agree with their views but don't realise they're racist and sexist themselves coildnt agree more fab is a great example of this Ace. Two of you. You should have some solid real life examples of this. ok do you agree that Labour are left wing? No sure where you're going with this but okay. Labour are centre or centre left. No they left wing but anyways is it fair to say that the BNP who were investigated by the EHRC to be racist can be applied to Labour since they were the only 2 political parties to be investigated by the EHRC? Interesting. Anyway, to get back on track you were about to give me an example of someone who is: 1. A person "with left wing ideals" 2. "quick to call other people racists, sexist etc when someone doesn't agree with their views" 3. "but don't realise they're racist and sexist". You seem extremely sure. So must be easy to roll out a solid example." oh let me think, wasnt Diane Abbott suspended from the Labour party for making racist and antisemitic comments? And she's a hardcore lefty | |||
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"Thing is about people with left wing ideals is they quick to call other people racists, sexist etc when someone doesn't agree with their views but don't realise they're racist and sexist themselves coildnt agree more fab is a great example of this Ace. Two of you. You should have some solid real life examples of this. ok do you agree that Labour are left wing?" I don't, Corbyn is left wing as was Michael Foot.. Blair as history shows took them to the centre with a bit of left wing policies and if you think Starmer is left wing you really are just regurgitating reform propaganda.. | |||
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"Thing is about people with left wing ideals is they quick to call other people racists, sexist etc when someone doesn't agree with their views but don't realise they're racist and sexist themselves coildnt agree more fab is a great example of this Ace. Two of you. You should have some solid real life examples of this. ok do you agree that Labour are left wing? I don't, Corbyn is left wing as was Michael Foot.. Blair as history shows took them to the centre with a bit of left wing policies and if you think Starmer is left wing you really are just regurgitating reform propaganda.." No I'm not regurgitating Reform propaganda and Keir Starmer as much you don't want to admit it is Left wing, probably not as hardcore like Jeremy Corbyn but shares most of the idealology | |||
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"Isn't the whole anti-semitism fiasco in Labour a clear example of left wing racism? " My point exactly but left wingers will not admit that | |||
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"Thing is about people with left wing ideals is they quick to call other people racists, sexist etc when someone doesn't agree with their views but don't realise they're racist and sexist themselves coildnt agree more fab is a great example of this Ace. Two of you. You should have some solid real life examples of this. ok do you agree that Labour are left wing? No sure where you're going with this but okay. Labour are centre or centre left. No they left wing but anyways is it fair to say that the BNP who were investigated by the EHRC to be racist can be applied to Labour since they were the only 2 political parties to be investigated by the EHRC? Interesting. Anyway, to get back on track you were about to give me an example of someone who is: 1. A person "with left wing ideals" 2. "quick to call other people racists, sexist etc when someone doesn't agree with their views" 3. "but don't realise they're racist and sexist". You seem extremely sure. So must be easy to roll out a solid example. oh let me think, wasnt Diane Abbott suspended from the Labour party for making racist and antisemitic comments? And she's a hardcore lefty" Okay so you have an example. What exactly was she suspended for, and how does she fit into all three of your categories? | |||
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"Isn't the whole anti-semitism fiasco in Labour a clear example of left wing racism? My point exactly but left wingers will not admit that" Maybe because some of them read the Forde report? | |||
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"Thing is about people with left wing ideals is they quick to call other people racists, sexist etc when someone doesn't agree with their views but don't realise they're racist and sexist themselves coildnt agree more fab is a great example of this Ace. Two of you. You should have some solid real life examples of this. ok do you agree that Labour are left wing? No sure where you're going with this but okay. Labour are centre or centre left. No they left wing but anyways is it fair to say that the BNP who were investigated by the EHRC to be racist can be applied to Labour since they were the only 2 political parties to be investigated by the EHRC? Interesting. Anyway, to get back on track you were about to give me an example of someone who is: 1. A person "with left wing ideals" 2. "quick to call other people racists, sexist etc when someone doesn't agree with their views" 3. "but don't realise they're racist and sexist". You seem extremely sure. So must be easy to roll out a solid example. oh let me think, wasnt Diane Abbott suspended from the Labour party for making racist and antisemitic comments? And she's a hardcore lefty Okay so you have an example. What exactly was she suspended for, and how does she fit into all three of your categories?" just mentioned it please read | |||
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"Thing is about people with left wing ideals is they quick to call other people racists, sexist etc when someone doesn't agree with their views but don't realise they're racist and sexist themselves coildnt agree more fab is a great example of this Ace. Two of you. You should have some solid real life examples of this. ok do you agree that Labour are left wing? No sure where you're going with this but okay. Labour are centre or centre left. No they left wing but anyways is it fair to say that the BNP who were investigated by the EHRC to be racist can be applied to Labour since they were the only 2 political parties to be investigated by the EHRC? Interesting. Anyway, to get back on track you were about to give me an example of someone who is: 1. A person "with left wing ideals" 2. "quick to call other people racists, sexist etc when someone doesn't agree with their views" 3. "but don't realise they're racist and sexist". You seem extremely sure. So must be easy to roll out a solid example. oh let me think, wasnt Diane Abbott suspended from the Labour party for making racist and antisemitic comments? And she's a hardcore lefty Okay so you have an example. What exactly was she suspended for, and how does she fit into all three of your categories? just mentioned it please read" But you haven't said anything. Maybe you can explain how Diane Abbott is: 1. A person "with left wing ideals" 2. "quick to call other people racists, sexist etc when someone doesn't agree with their views" 3. "but don't realise they're racist and sexist". And bonus point for explaining why this is typical of "people with left wing ideals". | |||
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"Isn't the whole anti-semitism fiasco in Labour a clear example of left wing racism? My point exactly but left wingers will not admit that Maybe because some of them read the Forde report?" Did the report say that there wasn't any anti-Semitism in Labour? | |||
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"Thing is about people with left wing ideals is they quick to call other people racists, sexist etc when someone doesn't agree with their views but don't realise they're racist and sexist themselves coildnt agree more fab is a great example of this Ace. Two of you. You should have some solid real life examples of this. Recently, there was a Glaswegian fellow who posted quite strongly about racism (page and politics indicated left leaning, at the very least). On his page, he had a video of a non-white person with a clear non-white, non-British accent. In this video, she clearly said, in a hurt/distressed tone, "no video!". When called out on this, specifically around racism/power imbalance, there was no response. The video (reported to admin) was removed, as was the thread where he was called out on it. The question asked was, would he have done the same to a white British woman? Does he accept that taking and then posting that video is a red flag for racism/sexism? It's clearly exploiting a power imbalance, at the very least. I appreciate that it's difficult to articulate a detailed point in a few lines on a forum. But I'm not sure I understand, what's the implication of a video with a woman saying "no video"?" South East Asian woman having sex with the fellow in question (presumably). She looks around and sees him filming. She says "No video!". It's clear that he videoed without consent. And uploaded without consent. Disgusting. Admin clearly took action. Perhaps he's just an arsehole who isn't misogynistic, perhaps he would have done that to a British person, too. It certainly smelled like a power imbalance, whether due to race, gender, both or other. | |||
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"Thing is about people with left wing ideals is they quick to call other people racists, sexist etc when someone doesn't agree with their views but don't realise they're racist and sexist themselves coildnt agree more fab is a great example of this Ace. Two of you. You should have some solid real life examples of this. ok do you agree that Labour are left wing? No sure where you're going with this but okay. Labour are centre or centre left. No they left wing but anyways is it fair to say that the BNP who were investigated by the EHRC to be racist can be applied to Labour since they were the only 2 political parties to be investigated by the EHRC? Interesting. Anyway, to get back on track you were about to give me an example of someone who is: 1. A person "with left wing ideals" 2. "quick to call other people racists, sexist etc when someone doesn't agree with their views" 3. "but don't realise they're racist and sexist". You seem extremely sure. So must be easy to roll out a solid example. oh let me think, wasnt Diane Abbott suspended from the Labour party for making racist and antisemitic comments? And she's a hardcore lefty Okay so you have an example. What exactly was she suspended for, and how does she fit into all three of your categories? just mentioned it please read But you haven't said anything. Maybe you can explain how Diane Abbott is: 1. A person "with left wing ideals" 2. "quick to call other people racists, sexist etc when someone doesn't agree with their views" 3. "but don't realise they're racist and sexist". And bonus point for explaining why this is typical of "people with left wing ideals"." 1. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c800pzlz9k8o 2. https://www.thetimes.com/article/diane-abbott-accused-of-stoking-racial-tension-over-shooting-of-blm-activist-sasha-johnson-gc8hmfrfq 3. https://news.sky.com/story/diane-abbott-accused-of-hateful-antisemitism-after-suggesting-jews-do-not-face-racism-12864141 https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2012/jan/05/diane-abbott-accused-racism-twitter Also, her comments on Finnish nurses. | |||
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"Thing is about people with left wing ideals is they quick to call other people racists, sexist etc when someone doesn't agree with their views but don't realise they're racist and sexist themselves coildnt agree more fab is a great example of this Ace. Two of you. You should have some solid real life examples of this. Recently, there was a Glaswegian fellow who posted quite strongly about racism (page and politics indicated left leaning, at the very least). On his page, he had a video of a non-white person with a clear non-white, non-British accent. In this video, she clearly said, in a hurt/distressed tone, "no video!". When called out on this, specifically around racism/power imbalance, there was no response. The video (reported to admin) was removed, as was the thread where he was called out on it. The question asked was, would he have done the same to a white British woman? Does he accept that taking and then posting that video is a red flag for racism/sexism? It's clearly exploiting a power imbalance, at the very least. I appreciate that it's difficult to articulate a detailed point in a few lines on a forum. But I'm not sure I understand, what's the implication of a video with a woman saying "no video"? South East Asian woman having sex with the fellow in question (presumably). She looks around and sees him filming. She says "No video!". It's clear that he videoed without consent. And uploaded without consent. Disgusting. Admin clearly took action. Perhaps he's just an arsehole who isn't misogynistic, perhaps he would have done that to a British person, too. It certainly smelled like a power imbalance, whether due to race, gender, both or other." That's clearly awful. Not sure how it's demonstrating the point the other chap was making though. This bloke sounds like an arsehole. | |||
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"Thing is about people with left wing ideals is they quick to call other people racists, sexist etc when someone doesn't agree with their views but don't realise they're racist and sexist themselves coildnt agree more fab is a great example of this Ace. Two of you. You should have some solid real life examples of this. ok do you agree that Labour are left wing? I don't, Corbyn is left wing as was Michael Foot.. Blair as history shows took them to the centre with a bit of left wing policies and if you think Starmer is left wing you really are just regurgitating reform propaganda.. No I'm not regurgitating Reform propaganda and Keir Starmer as much you don't want to admit it is Left wing, probably not as hardcore like Jeremy Corbyn but shares most of the idealology" Compared to Farage he is and some of the right wing of the Tory party but to those on the left he's a centrist with a left leaning.. | |||
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"Thing is about people with left wing ideals is they quick to call other people racists, sexist etc when someone doesn't agree with their views but don't realise they're racist and sexist themselves coildnt agree more fab is a great example of this Ace. Two of you. You should have some solid real life examples of this. ok do you agree that Labour are left wing? I don't, Corbyn is left wing as was Michael Foot.. Blair as history shows took them to the centre with a bit of left wing policies and if you think Starmer is left wing you really are just regurgitating reform propaganda.. No I'm not regurgitating Reform propaganda and Keir Starmer as much you don't want to admit it is Left wing, probably not as hardcore like Jeremy Corbyn but shares most of the idealology Compared to Farage he is and some of the right wing of the Tory party but to those on the left he's a centrist with a left leaning.." he’s leaning the far now needs to be careful doesn’t fall over | |||
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