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Why do politicians share so much on Whatsapp?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

How many Whatsapp conversatiions have been leaked at this point? You'd think they'd learn never to write anything on there that looks bad by now.

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By *astandFeistyCouple
over a year ago

Bournemouth

WhatsApp is a very secure platform actually. If I was going to share anything, it would be on WhatsApp

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The trick is not to share your WhatsApps with a notorious journalist who is in bed with other politocal parties ....

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"WhatsApp is a very secure platform actually. If I was going to share anything, it would be on WhatsApp "

That's not the problem. The problem is doing group chats there or giving the stuff to mates. We've seen so many leaks as a result by now.

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By *astandFeistyCouple
over a year ago

Bournemouth


"WhatsApp is a very secure platform actually. If I was going to share anything, it would be on WhatsApp

That's not the problem. The problem is doing group chats there or giving the stuff to mates. We've seen so many leaks as a result by now."

Exactly. Leaks aren't the same as hacks. WhatsApp isn't the problem, it's the people who they're sharing it with.

So you're asking asking asking, why say things to people? Rather than, why say things on WhatsApp?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"WhatsApp is a very secure platform actually. If I was going to share anything, it would be on WhatsApp

That's not the problem. The problem is doing group chats there or giving the stuff to mates. We've seen so many leaks as a result by now.

Exactly. Leaks aren't the same as hacks. WhatsApp isn't the problem, it's the people who they're sharing it with.

So you're asking asking asking, why say things to people? Rather than, why say things on WhatsApp?"

I guess what I'm asking is: why do they write incriminating things to people in a form that's easily leakable? Whatsapp is just the thing that often pops up with these leaks.

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By *astandFeistyCouple
over a year ago

Bournemouth


"WhatsApp is a very secure platform actually. If I was going to share anything, it would be on WhatsApp

That's not the problem. The problem is doing group chats there or giving the stuff to mates. We've seen so many leaks as a result by now.

Exactly. Leaks aren't the same as hacks. WhatsApp isn't the problem, it's the people who they're sharing it with.

So you're asking asking asking, why say things to people? Rather than, why say things on WhatsApp?

I guess what I'm asking is: why do they write incriminating things to people in a form that's easily leakable? Whatsapp is just the thing that often pops up with these leaks."

The point is though, it doesn't matter what platform these things are written on, if someone wants to leak it, they will.

I'm unsure of the relevance of WhatsApp in this instance.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"WhatsApp is a very secure platform actually. If I was going to share anything, it would be on WhatsApp

That's not the problem. The problem is doing group chats there or giving the stuff to mates. We've seen so many leaks as a result by now.

Exactly. Leaks aren't the same as hacks. WhatsApp isn't the problem, it's the people who they're sharing it with.

So you're asking asking asking, why say things to people? Rather than, why say things on WhatsApp?

I guess what I'm asking is: why do they write incriminating things to people in a form that's easily leakable? Whatsapp is just the thing that often pops up with these leaks.

The point is though, it doesn't matter what platform these things are written on, if someone wants to leak it, they will.

I'm unsure of the relevance of WhatsApp in this instance."

Y get your point. I guess I mentioned Whatsapp because it so often seems to be Whatsapp. That's all.

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By *astandFeistyCouple
over a year ago

Bournemouth


"WhatsApp is a very secure platform actually. If I was going to share anything, it would be on WhatsApp

That's not the problem. The problem is doing group chats there or giving the stuff to mates. We've seen so many leaks as a result by now.

Exactly. Leaks aren't the same as hacks. WhatsApp isn't the problem, it's the people who they're sharing it with.

So you're asking asking asking, why say things to people? Rather than, why say things on WhatsApp?

I guess what I'm asking is: why do they write incriminating things to people in a form that's easily leakable? Whatsapp is just the thing that often pops up with these leaks.

The point is though, it doesn't matter what platform these things are written on, if someone wants to leak it, they will.

I'm unsure of the relevance of WhatsApp in this instance.

Y get your point. I guess I mentioned Whatsapp because it so often seems to be Whatsapp. That's all.

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Fair. They use WhatsApp because its secure, that's all.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

Deniability perhaps?

Yes it's secure but if we expect accountability then private deletable chats should only be for social use not government policy..

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By *enny PR9TV/TS
over a year ago

Southport

The best kept secrets are the ones that only one person knows about. Like the one about where I've hidden all the bodies of all the people who have upset me, although the loose flag stones on my patio is somewhat of a giveaway.

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge


"The best kept secrets are the ones that only one person knows about. Like the one about where I've hidden all the bodies of all the people who have upset me, although the loose flag stones on my patio is somewhat of a giveaway. "
if you say so mr jordache

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By *and12Couple
over a year ago

flint

He shared to the journalist who was writing his autobiography

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West

Can’t help but think that there will be a lot more of this to come out - if nothing else because of Hancock’s apparent GDPR breach.

It’s one thing releasing your own outbound messages (to a fucking journalist -lol), but releasing inbound messages from other named people as well as chats between others who should reasonably have expected that those messages would be read only by those in a closed group, is pretty dumb.

This brings us back to the days of Covid when there were endless debates about the competence, judgement and reliability of those who were at the very top of Government. Well as far as Hancock is concerned, we now know for sure that he probably was a completely dumb fuck lacking wholly in any form of reasonable judgement. He can’t have suddenly become so stupid and lacking in judgement.

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

WhatsApp is inherently a problem because policy decisions are being made outside of public scrutiny.

Of course you can argue that verbal discussions in the corridor are also not recorded, but this now happens on a whole other scale now. Discussions anywhere at all times of day, with anyone. Appropriate or not.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People + messaging technology = idiots.

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By *ary_ArgyllMan
over a year ago

Argyll


"WhatsApp is inherently a problem because policy decisions are being made outside of public scrutiny.

Of course you can argue that verbal discussions in the corridor are also not recorded, but this now happens on a whole other scale now. Discussions anywhere at all times of day, with anyone. Appropriate or not."

I agree, especially when cliques get together to form so called 'research groups'.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"WhatsApp is inherently a problem because policy decisions are being made outside of public scrutiny.

Of course you can argue that verbal discussions in the corridor are also not recorded, but this now happens on a whole other scale now. Discussions anywhere at all times of day, with anyone. Appropriate or not.

I agree, especially when cliques get together to form so called 'research groups'."

Researching what? Memes?

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By *uddy laneMan
over a year ago

dudley


"How many Whatsapp conversatiions have been leaked at this point? You'd think they'd learn never to write anything on there that looks bad by now."

But they are great to distract the plebs from the real issues.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"How many Whatsapp conversatiions have been leaked at this point? You'd think they'd learn never to write anything on there that looks bad by now.

But they are great to distract the plebs from the real issues."

I doubt they leaked all this as a distraction. It's generally a mistake in politics to mistake some sort of fuck up for strategy. Not always, of course.

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By *oubleswing2019Man
over a year ago

Colchester


"People + messaging technology = idiots."

Pretty much the nail on the head.

Though to be fair, I'd revise it to

Hugh Swathes of People + Most Technology = Accidents Waiting To Happen

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Who is waiting for the "fab" leak? And which MP...

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

WhatsApp is the only secure messaging app , for many people they don’t have a choice , WhatsApp is the only only option for sending stuff.

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London


"WhatsApp is the only secure messaging app , for many people they don’t have a choice , WhatsApp is the only only option for sending stuff. "

It's not "secure". It's owned by Facebook.

I would like to think that Government Ministers have access to more secure communication than WhatsApp.

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By *ary_ArgyllMan
over a year ago

Argyll


"WhatsApp is inherently a problem because policy decisions are being made outside of public scrutiny.

Of course you can argue that verbal discussions in the corridor are also not recorded, but this now happens on a whole other scale now. Discussions anywhere at all times of day, with anyone. Appropriate or not.

I agree, especially when cliques get together to form so called 'research groups'.

Researching what? Memes? "

European Research Group for example.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"WhatsApp is the only secure messaging app , for many people they don’t have a choice , WhatsApp is the only only option for sending stuff. "

Whatsapp is absolutely NOT secure.

If you want secure, Telegram and Signal are what you'd want to use.

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By *astandFeistyCouple
over a year ago

Bournemouth


"WhatsApp is the only secure messaging app , for many people they don’t have a choice , WhatsApp is the only only option for sending stuff.

Whatsapp is absolutely NOT secure.

If you want secure, Telegram and Signal are what you'd want to use. "

I'll give you signal, but Telegram? Are you serious?

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By *uddy laneMan
over a year ago

dudley


"WhatsApp is the only secure messaging app , for many people they don’t have a choice , WhatsApp is the only only option for sending stuff.

Whatsapp is absolutely NOT secure.

If you want secure, Telegram and Signal are what you'd want to use.

I'll give you signal, but Telegram? Are you serious?"

The only real way to be secure is learn to code and create your own messaging app, you need to host your own xmpp server though They all use open source software

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

The recent release of additional messages now show how Raab and Cummings assassinated senior members of the NHS as they kept arguing with ministers in relation to their incompetence over Covid and refused to stop criticising NHS funding policy in relation to privatisation.

One the victims was a labour supporter so received special attention.

This government is like a bunch of mafia dons scheming to lie cheat and steal .

These WhatsApp’s confirm how abjectly unfit for office they are.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Because they are stupid and do not understand technology.

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma

The number of messages is the surprising thing for me, 100K? A lot of time to get through them and send them…

As for the content of the messages, I’m not at all surprised by the tone or the content, it happens, people need to talk privately to steer or get advice that is not reflective of their publicly outward messages. All they have really managed to do is confirm what people already thought they knew about him…. That is really not going to help his future plans I would hope.

I think he was naive and could only see the £, to allow those messages into the hands of another!

I’m surprised he wasn’t made to hand in or have his devices cleansed after leaving position to avoid this very issue. I do wonder if he has broken any employment, government policy by allowing these messages to be made public.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How many Whatsapp conversatiions have been leaked at this point? You'd think they'd learn never to write anything on there that looks bad by now."

WhatsApp is extremely safe. Nothing was leaked from WhatsApp he gave all his messages to someone else . Think you should re read the whole story mate

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The trick is not to share your WhatsApps with a notorious journalist who is in bed with other politocal parties ...."

Exactly !! I don't think anyone on here has read the story. As usual people just read a headline.

Hancock gave all the messages to someone else who leaked them. WhatsApp didn't leak them.!

People should read before commenting. Makes you all look stupid .

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"The trick is not to share your WhatsApps with a notorious journalist who is in bed with other politocal parties ....

Exactly !! I don't think anyone on here has read the story. As usual people just read a headline.

Hancock gave all the messages to someone else who leaked them. WhatsApp didn't leak them.!

People should read before commenting. Makes you all look stupid ."

did any1 actually say Whatsapp leaked the messages? I think it's widely understood people do the leaking.

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