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"What is interesting is the BBC narrative; MP jailed for fraud. Had that been a Conservative MP the headline would have been: Tory MP jailed for sleazy expenses scandal The sooner we get rid of the licence fee the better" at best it would be "ex labour MP" But who knows what the BBC would have written. | |||
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"What is interesting is the BBC narrative; MP jailed for fraud. Had that been a Conservative MP the headline would have been: Tory MP jailed for sleazy expenses scandal The sooner we get rid of the licence fee the better" He's not a Labour MP. He was suspended and left the party so the headline would be: "Independent MP jailed for sleazy expenses scandal" Possibly "Former Labour MP jailed for sleazy expenses scandal" The BBC have actually used: "Jared O'Mara: Former MP jailed over £52,000 fraud to pay drug debt" Your outrage at the BBC seems a little misplaced in this instance at least and I see no link to the TV license. | |||
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"As it keeps coming up. Imo.... 1) less of a story as the labour party dealt with it. Had there been a cover up, I'd expect there to be many threads. 2) question marks on the due diligence done. Is there any reason for thinking the labour party should have known, eg existing complaints. Any dodgy nicknames ? " I didn't see any evidence or even implication of a cover up in any reporting at any time. There would appear to be a question over the selection process. That may or may not have been changed by now. I actually have no idea. | |||
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"at best it would be "ex labour MP"" I think a paper could justify using "Expenses Scandal Labour MP Jailed", since he was a Labour MP when he did it. What surprises me is that everyone is focusing on his fiddling of expenses. I would have expected the focus to be on his drug taking, especially since he was trying to fund his drug habit with public money. Can it really be that the UK has got to the point where a person in the public eye taking drugs is not that remarkable? | |||
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"at best it would be "ex labour MP" I think a paper could justify using "Expenses Scandal Labour MP Jailed", since he was a Labour MP when he did it. What surprises me is that everyone is focusing on his fiddling of expenses. I would have expected the focus to be on his drug taking, especially since he was trying to fund his drug habit with public money. Can it really be that the UK has got to the point where a person in the public eye taking drugs is not that remarkable?" I did not know the offense was committed while he was a serving Labour MP. I have not looked into it to be fair and only seen a few headlines. As it is he was a Labour MP while taking drugs and using public money to fund it then it should be in the headlines. | |||
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"at best it would be "ex labour MP" I think a paper could justify using "Expenses Scandal Labour MP Jailed", since he was a Labour MP when he did it. What surprises me is that everyone is focusing on his fiddling of expenses. I would have expected the focus to be on his drug taking, especially since he was trying to fund his drug habit with public money. Can it really be that the UK has got to the point where a person in the public eye taking drugs is not that remarkable?" plenty of headlines have been on his habit. However he has been sent down for fraud. | |||
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"Number 2 without a doubt. The guy had a whole string of 'offences' prior to being selected to run. What's really surprising (not) is that people here are saying 'ex-labour', whilst true, he was actually reinstated and then resigned. " that is true. But it looks like that series of events was around his other behaviour. Not the drugs and fraud. Indeed he spent a decent portion of his time as an independent. Seems he was only labour for about four months of his tenure (if you exclude the suspension period) Therefore it's plausible most if not all of the offences were while he didn't have the labour whip. | |||
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"What is interesting is the BBC narrative; MP jailed for fraud. Had that been a Conservative MP the headline would have been: Tory MP jailed for sleazy expenses scandal The sooner we get rid of the licence fee the better" Exactly my thoughts. Why pay for BBC propaganda? | |||
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"Number 2 without a doubt. The guy had a whole string of 'offences' prior to being selected to run. What's really surprising (not) is that people here are saying 'ex-labour', whilst true, he was actually reinstated and then resigned. that is true. But it looks like that series of events was around his other behaviour. Not the drugs and fraud. Indeed he spent a decent portion of his time as an independent. Seems he was only labour for about four months of his tenure (if you exclude the suspension period) Therefore it's plausible most if not all of the offences were while he didn't have the labour whip. " I haven't looked through the timeline of offences, if I'm honest. I'm not actually bothered whether he was Labour or Indy at the time. | |||
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"Number 2 without a doubt. The guy had a whole string of 'offences' prior to being selected to run. What's really surprising (not) is that people here are saying 'ex-labour', whilst true, he was actually reinstated and then resigned. that is true. But it looks like that series of events was around his other behaviour. Not the drugs and fraud. Indeed he spent a decent portion of his time as an independent. Seems he was only labour for about four months of his tenure (if you exclude the suspension period) Therefore it's plausible most if not all of the offences were while he didn't have the labour whip. I haven't looked through the timeline of offences, if I'm honest. I'm not actually bothered whether he was Labour or Indy at the time. " nor am I. Tbh it was more out of curiosity if there was media bias. I'm starting to think it's a combination of conformation bias and miss remembering chains of events. He wasn't short of scandal ! (Thay fawkes spent time to dig up to link threads. And rightly so) | |||
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"What is interesting is the BBC narrative; MP jailed for fraud. Had that been a Conservative MP the headline would have been: Tory MP jailed for sleazy expenses scandal The sooner we get rid of the licence fee the better" So based upon something different from what was said but you imagined they could have said, but they didn't.. The licence fee should be scrapped.. | |||
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"It appears that there has, so far, been limited interest in this thread despite it being sited as a specific example of "ignoring" a topic " Not surprising at all. This just proves my point that this forum is basically frequented by half a dozen leftists who only want to talk about their pet topics: Brexit, Sunak is a crook, Brexit, net zero, Brexit, Tory scum, Brexit, OUR NHS IS AMAZING, and Brexit. | |||
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"It appears that there has, so far, been limited interest in this thread despite it being sited as a specific example of "ignoring" a topic Not surprising at all. This just proves my point that this forum is basically frequented by half a dozen leftists who only want to talk about their pet topics: Brexit, Sunak is a crook, Brexit, net zero, Brexit, Tory scum, Brexit, OUR NHS IS AMAZING, and Brexit." In fairness, you mention those things as much, or in the case of "net zero", more than anyone else. | |||
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"It appears that there has, so far, been limited interest in this thread despite it being sited as a specific example of "ignoring" a topic Not surprising at all. This just proves my point that this forum is basically frequented by half a dozen leftists who only want to talk about their pet topics: Brexit, Sunak is a crook, Brexit, net zero, Brexit, Tory scum, Brexit, OUR NHS IS AMAZING, and Brexit." Why don’t you start a few threads of your own , instead of crying | |||
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"It appears that there has, so far, been limited interest in this thread despite it being sited as a specific example of "ignoring" a topic Not surprising at all. This just proves my point that this forum is basically frequented by half a dozen leftists who only want to talk about their pet topics: Brexit, Sunak is a crook, Brexit, net zero, Brexit, Tory scum, Brexit, OUR NHS IS AMAZING, and Brexit. Why don’t you start a few threads of your own , instead of crying " There is no point. If it isn't about the forum's approved topics then it will get no traction. If it is then it will just be the same half a dozen people ranting about the same stuff again, as they have been for years. The forum is really just about a few people getting some third party affirmation for their extremist opinions from a few others who have been similarly radicalised. | |||
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"It appears that there has, so far, been limited interest in this thread despite it being sited as a specific example of "ignoring" a topic Not surprising at all. This just proves my point that this forum is basically frequented by half a dozen leftists who only want to talk about their pet topics: Brexit, Sunak is a crook, Brexit, net zero, Brexit, Tory scum, Brexit, OUR NHS IS AMAZING, and Brexit." Do you have an opinion on the actual OP or is it of no interest to you? | |||
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"It appears that there has, so far, been limited interest in this thread despite it being sited as a specific example of "ignoring" a topic Not surprising at all. This just proves my point that this forum is basically frequented by half a dozen leftists who only want to talk about their pet topics: Brexit, Sunak is a crook, Brexit, net zero, Brexit, Tory scum, Brexit, OUR NHS IS AMAZING, and Brexit. Why don’t you start a few threads of your own , instead of crying There is no point. If it isn't about the forum's approved topics then it will get no traction. If it is then it will just be the same half a dozen people ranting about the same stuff again, as they have been for years. The forum is really just about a few people getting some third party affirmation for their extremist opinions from a few others who have been similarly radicalised." You’re crying and moaning about what people post, either post something you want to talk about or just ignore the threads you don’t want to read, simple | |||
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" The forum is really just about a few people getting some third party affirmation for their extremist opinions from a few others who have been similarly radicalised." Lolz This is the best thing on here in ages. Even discussion on the impact of brexit or having a desire for a government that isn't corrupt is now an "extreme opinion". Amazing | |||
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"It appears that there has, so far, been limited interest in this thread despite it being sited as a specific example of "ignoring" a topic Not surprising at all. This just proves my point that this forum is basically frequented by half a dozen leftists who only want to talk about their pet topics: Brexit, Sunak is a crook, Brexit, net zero, Brexit, Tory scum, Brexit, OUR NHS IS AMAZING, and Brexit. Do you have an opinion on the actual OP or is it of no interest to you?" And what opinion did you venture on the topic? Don't worry I don't need to know, I'll just have a flick around the BBC or Guardian website for a few seconds and I'm sure I can work it out. | |||
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"It appears that there has, so far, been limited interest in this thread despite it being sited as a specific example of "ignoring" a topic Not surprising at all. This just proves my point that this forum is basically frequented by half a dozen leftists who only want to talk about their pet topics: Brexit, Sunak is a crook, Brexit, net zero, Brexit, Tory scum, Brexit, OUR NHS IS AMAZING, and Brexit. Do you have an opinion on the actual OP or is it of no interest to you? And what opinion did you venture on the topic? Don't worry I don't need to know, I'll just have a flick around the BBC or Guardian website for a few seconds and I'm sure I can work it out." It would be more interesting if people addressed the topics instead of constant childish insults. | |||
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"It appears that there has, so far, been limited interest in this thread despite it being sited as a specific example of "ignoring" a topic Not surprising at all. This just proves my point that this forum is basically frequented by half a dozen leftists who only want to talk about their pet topics: Brexit, Sunak is a crook, Brexit, net zero, Brexit, Tory scum, Brexit, OUR NHS IS AMAZING, and Brexit. Do you have an opinion on the actual OP or is it of no interest to you? And what opinion did you venture on the topic? Don't worry I don't need to know, I'll just have a flick around the BBC or Guardian website for a few seconds and I'm sure I can work it out. It would be more interesting if people addressed the topics instead of constant childish insults. " I'm glad you agree, the guy is a know it all pain in the arse, thanks for supporting me. | |||
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"It appears that there has, so far, been limited interest in this thread despite it being sited as a specific example of "ignoring" a topic" It looks to me that people are ignoring this thread, thus proving the point that some issues get deliberately ignored. I wonder which one of us is right? | |||
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"It appears that there has, so far, been limited interest in this thread despite it being sited as a specific example of "ignoring" a topic It looks to me that people are ignoring this thread, thus proving the point that some issues get deliberately ignored. I wonder which one of us is right?" I had to look this guy up so that tells you all you need to know | |||
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"It appears that there has, so far, been limited interest in this thread despite it being sited as a specific example of "ignoring" a topic It looks to me that people are ignoring this thread, thus proving the point that some issues get deliberately ignored. I wonder which one of us is right? I had to look this guy up so that tells you all you need to know " You haven't actually commented on the OP. Neither have most of those with right leaning views. More from "the other side" have. So what is your point? | |||
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