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By *hropshireGent OP Man
over a year ago

Shropshire

With the suspected Chinese weather balloon / surveillance balloon that the USA have reportedly just shot down, what are your thoughts?

I suspect it has something to do with Russia asking China for intelligence on the USA

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"With the suspected Chinese weather balloon / surveillance balloon that the USA have reportedly just shot down, what are your thoughts?

I suspect it has something to do with Russia asking China for intelligence on the USA "

Mentioned on TV that the minimum operating height is 60 thousand feet, the same hight of this balloon. Plus satellites do just a good as a job, so reckon it's deliberate stunt to piss the Americans off, in retaliation over Taiwan perhaps

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

Just seen a clip of Biden trying to walk up the steps to air force one and someone has shopped in the balloon bouncing off him and knocking him over.

It’s the little things

Took their time over shooting it down should have done it over Canada. Nobody would have noticed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"With the suspected Chinese weather balloon / surveillance balloon that the USA have reportedly just shot down, what are your thoughts?

I suspect it has something to do with Russia asking China for intelligence on the USA "
No worries no different than a spy satellite. I was us military we had times that if a adversarial satellite was overhead . We knew way ahead of time and adjusted tactics. A balloon is much slower and easier to track. Take the event as posturing . We know how to fool any adversary spying.

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By *ools and the brainCouple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

"With the suspected Chinese weather balloon / surveillance balloon that the USA have reportedly just shot down, what are your thoughts?

I suspect it has something to do with Russia asking China for intelligence on the USA "

Oh shut up that's putting two and two together and coming up with 50.

Tabloid click bait

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"With the suspected Chinese weather balloon / surveillance balloon that the USA have reportedly just shot down, what are your thoughts?

I suspect it has something to do with Russia asking China for intelligence on the USA

Oh shut up that's putting two and two together and coming up with 50.

Tabloid click bait "
lol on your point I have to agree. Been there with alerts.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It was graciously shot down over the Carolina coast.

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By *hropshireGent OP Man
over a year ago

Shropshire

"Oh shut up that's putting two and two together and coming up with 50.

Tabloid click bait "

Are you ok?

It’s in the politics section of the forum. No need to get so wound up.

Maybe you need to get to bed earlier in a evening

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It is entertaining that china is trying to shift blame.

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

The test was whether the US were prepared to shoot it down. China has satellites so didn’t really need the balloons. The US could also jam the instruments of a balloon because it’s at 50-60k feet not space.

If the US did nothing it would show weakness.

Resolve and nerve testing comes to mind.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The test was whether the US were prepared to shoot it down. China has satellites so didn’t really need the balloons. The US could also jam the instruments of a balloon because it’s at 50-60k feet not space.

If the US did nothing it would show weakness.

Resolve and nerve testing comes to mind. "
in the past the balloons are notoriously hard to shoot down.Using a f22 to do it probably surprised the Chinese military.

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By *queakyclean69erCouple
over a year ago

Torquay / Fleet

"Oh shut up that's putting two and two together and coming up with 50.

Tabloid click bait

Are you ok?

It’s in the politics section of the forum. No need to get so wound up.

Maybe you need to get to bed earlier in a evening

Completely agree no need for the response you got

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Honestly they didn't get much Intel that was already known. If it was to help Russia it would have taken a more southern approach. Over Alabama Kentucky and Tennessee. It did fly over Fort Bragg .

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By *ittlemisschezWoman
over a year ago

England

"With the suspected Chinese weather balloon / surveillance balloon that the USA have reportedly just shot down, what are your thoughts?

I suspect it has something to do with Russia asking China for intelligence on the USA

Oh shut up that's putting two and two together and coming up with 50.

Tabloid click bait "

People like that are the reason i do not post on the forum often!

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By *enny PR9TV/TS
over a year ago

Southport

Now the chinese know where the Americans keep their cows.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Now the chinese know where the Americans keep their cows.

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lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Now the chinese know where the Americans keep their cows.

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lol the cows are laughing everyone panicking over a balloon. Yet having tik tok on your phone is a tiny Chinese spy.

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

Hope you have changed your internet passwords Blu. By my calculations it passed over your house

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hope you have changed your internet passwords Blu. By my calculations it passed over your house

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lol I probably was eating Chinese takeout at the time

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hope you have changed your internet passwords Blu. By my calculations it passed over your house

lol I probably was eating Chinese takeout at the time

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Seen the comet though that was spectacular.

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By *ools and the brainCouple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

Was it at a height for being dangerous to air traffic?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Was it at a height for being dangerous to air traffic?

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no

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Was it at a height for being dangerous to air traffic?

no "
The components might be of some value.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What is hilarious is North Carolina law enforcement were begging residents not to shoot at it.

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By *enny PR9TV/TS
over a year ago

Southport

"What is hilarious is North Carolina law enforcement were begging residents not to shoot at it."

Or try to poke it with a very, very, very, long stick.

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By *uddy laneMan
over a year ago

dudley

"What is hilarious is North Carolina law enforcement were begging residents not to shoot at it."

I'm sure caswell county residents would not do that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What is hilarious is North Carolina law enforcement were begging residents not to shoot at it.

Or try to poke it with a very, very, very, long stick."
lol I pretty sure someone in its flight path said "Here hold my beer" and emptied a mag.

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By *ananas57Couple
over a year ago

lake ariel

I wonder how many millions of dollars we spent shooting it down

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

"What is hilarious is North Carolina law enforcement were begging residents not to shoot at it."

The Comet?

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"What is hilarious is North Carolina law enforcement were begging residents not to shoot at it.

Or try to poke it with a very, very, very, long stick."

I would have loved to have seen the instrument they think would have been’2a’ compliant that would hit it….

Almost to shoot it down so it landed at sea but within the 12 mile U.S. territorial boundaries was a masterstroke.. they would have had navy ships in the area to retrieve it quickly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What is hilarious is North Carolina law enforcement were begging residents not to shoot at it.

Or try to poke it with a very, very, very, long stick.

I would have loved to have seen the instrument they think would have been’2a’ compliant that would hit it….

Almost to shoot it down so it landed at sea but within the 12 mile U.S. territorial boundaries was a masterstroke.. they would have had navy ships in the area to retrieve it quickly "

Pilot could have learnt out the window with a pin, save a few dollars

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By *queakyclean69erCouple
over a year ago

Torquay / Fleet

"With the suspected Chinese weather balloon / surveillance balloon that the USA have reportedly just shot down, what are your thoughts?

I suspect it has something to do with Russia asking China for intelligence on the USA

Oh shut up that's putting two and two together and coming up with 50.

Tabloid click bait

People like that are the reason i do not post on the forum often! "

Sadly there are people like that in all walks of life. It’s all fine as long as the world agrees with them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What is hilarious is North Carolina law enforcement were begging residents not to shoot at it.

Or try to poke it with a very, very, very, long stick.

I would have loved to have seen the instrument they think would have been’2a’ compliant that would hit it….

Almost to shoot it down so it landed at sea but within the 12 mile U.S. territorial boundaries was a masterstroke.. they would have had navy ships in the area to retrieve it quickly

Pilot could have learnt out the window with a pin, save a few dollars"
Apparently our anti spy balloon defense system in Seattle didn't work. I guess the space needle needs a upgrade.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What is hilarious is North Carolina law enforcement were begging residents not to shoot at it.

Or try to poke it with a very, very, very, long stick.

I would have loved to have seen the instrument they think would have been’2a’ compliant that would hit it….

Almost to shoot it down so it landed at sea but within the 12 mile U.S. territorial boundaries was a masterstroke.. they would have had navy ships in the area to retrieve it quickly "
The shoot down is a aviation first. It's now be known as the F-22 air to air kill.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *hropshireGent OP Man
over a year ago

Shropshire

Shoot it down?

Wasn’t it something like 11 miles high?

They only way that would be shot down would be with proper military equipment.

What were these people thinking?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

After extensive analysis of the wreckage it was determined that all the craft was doing was just surveying areas to build dollar stores

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By *ch WellMan
over a year ago

Scotland

Montana? Even the Chinese want to know what happens in the next series of Yellowstone

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham

Didn't China attack the USA in WW2, with an incendiary device fitted to a weather balloon.

Maybe it was a practice run for another attack.

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

"What is hilarious is North Carolina law enforcement were begging residents not to shoot at it.

Or try to poke it with a very, very, very, long stick.

I would have loved to have seen the instrument they think would have been’2a’ compliant that would hit it….

Almost to shoot it down so it landed at sea but within the 12 mile U.S. territorial boundaries was a masterstroke.. they would have had navy ships in the area to retrieve it quickly

Pilot could have learnt out the window with a pin, save a few dollars Apparently our anti spy balloon defense system in Seattle didn't work. I guess the space needle needs a upgrade.

Funny

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Didn't China attack the USA in WW2, with an incendiary device fitted to a weather balloon.

Maybe it was a practice run for another attack."
that was Japan

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The idea China needs a balloon to spy on the USA seems pretty laughable. After all, they can just read everything on social media these days.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The idea China needs a balloon to spy on the USA seems pretty laughable. After all, they can just read everything on social media these days."
It is

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The idea China needs a balloon to spy on the USA seems pretty laughable. After all, they can just read everything on social media these days. It is"

We agree on something. I'm off to have a lie down. I feel faint suddenly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The idea China needs a balloon to spy on the USA seems pretty laughable. After all, they can just read everything on social media these days. It is

We agree on something. I'm off to have a lie down. I feel faint suddenly."
lol media hype and political posturing for the next election. It's only going to get more outrageous.

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By *ools and the brainCouple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

It'll be the media and tabloid journalism that'll start WW3 not politicians.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It'll be the media and tabloid journalism that'll start WW3 not politicians."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A balloon is easy to track once noticed but only if you are specifically looking for balloons. Keep in mind US air defence isn't just ground radar in the US, it's all over the world, including on navy ships. Though as said, they have to be looking for slower objects at great height instead of the 'usual rockets, jets, and missiles.

The whole point of using a balloon instead of satellites is because satellites follow pre determined and predictable orbits. Balloons can be snuck in and can potentially catch activity that a country may not want to be seen.

Imagine if it had a suitcase nuke on it? Funny how the media don't mention things like that isn't it?

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By *rDiscretionXXXMan
over a year ago

Gilfach

"Imagine if it had a suitcase nuke on it? Funny how the media don't mention things like that isn't it?"

They don't mention things like that because it's wild fantasy. The size of balloon that would be needed to carry a nuclear weapon would make it very conspicuous indeed, and it would be shot down well before it managed to get anywhere useful.

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham

"Didn't China attack the USA in WW2, with an incendiary device fitted to a weather balloon.

Maybe it was a practice run for another attack. that was Japan"

I wasn't sure which one it was. I know the US didn't even know they were attacked.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Didn't China attack the USA in WW2, with an incendiary device fitted to a weather balloon.

Maybe it was a practice run for another attack. that was Japan

I wasn't sure which one it was. I know the US didn't even know they were attacked."
I just agree to what the Pentagon suggests. They the experts. Not the politicians.

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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago

Longridge

"Was it at a height for being dangerous to air traffic?

no "

First one no, second one yes..

Anyway, I'm sure it will turn out the China just wanted to forecast the weather for Lunar New Year.

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By *hropshireGent OP Man
over a year ago

Shropshire

Looking at the news this morning another object has been shot down by the USA and Canada

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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago

Longridge

Why does the USA have to spoil the fun. I love letting balloons go, high up in the sky - not for someone to come along and shoot it down.

Bit dramatic using expensive missles to do what a couple of lead shots can achieve at a fraction of the cost.

Sudden Stratospheric Warming event just triggered, maybe it's Moscow monitoring the weather for another 'Beast from the East' in a few weeks.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why does the USA have to spoil the fun. I love letting balloons go, high up in the sky - not for someone to come along and shoot it down.

Bit dramatic using expensive missles to do what a couple of lead shots can achieve at a fraction of the cost.

Sudden Stratospheric Warming event just triggered, maybe it's Moscow monitoring the weather for another 'Beast from the East' in a few weeks."
Canada tried guns only previously. No effect.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

They shot down another one… this time over Lake Huron which is the border of us/Canada over the Midwest (basically what they would call in Michigan “the UP” upper peninsula… being a Michigan state grad I know ish the area.. rural.. closer to Wisconsin than Detroit)

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

Did they recover any of the things they shot down yet?

This seems hard to find accurate news on, because of all the noise.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"They shot down another one… this time over Lake Huron which is the border of us/Canada over the Midwest (basically what they would call in Michigan “the UP” upper peninsula… being a Michigan state grad I know ish the area.. rural.. closer to Wisconsin than Detroit)"
If you go look on flight radar. This new looks like it was a planned intercept over water. There is a strato tanker over the lake.

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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago

Longridge

Getting frickin silly now, no Helium in ASDA today for party balloons for kids.

Trump covered up 4 balloons during his time and he's pissed this info has been released.

So, over at least the past 6 yrs, how many and how often? and for what purpose?

Is Amazon secretly trialling Ballon Delivery?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

China will be looking to get a better idea of US conventional force positioning. They did some military drills near Taiwan again recently. They would be stupid to try anything mind you.

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By *hropshireGent OP Man
over a year ago

Shropshire

"China will be looking to get a better idea of US conventional force positioning. They did some military drills near Taiwan again recently. They would be stupid to try anything mind you."

That’s the scary thing, I think they might be silly enough to try. With the USA and Europe watching Russia/Ukraine I think that China will use this a opportunity to push its boundary’s and hope that it will take a lower priority to Russia the Ukraine situation

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