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"As my other thread has been hijacked by arguments about that useless twat Jeremy Corbyn, here is one to nominate those who could have been great PMs given the chance. The nearly men and women of British history. My top 5: Barbara Castle John Smith Paddy Ashdown Charles Kennedy Michael Gove" Michael “” Gove that was a joke right? John Smith yep. I would add Alan Johnson and David Miliband. | |||
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"As my other thread has been hijacked by arguments about that useless twat Jeremy Corbyn, here is one to nominate those who could have been great PMs given the chance. The nearly men and women of British history. My top 5: Barbara Castle John Smith Paddy Ashdown Charles Kennedy Michael Gove" Is one of those a comedy answer? Otherwise, an interesting four out of five. I didn't always like the Lib Dems policies at the time. But I think Paddy Ashdown would have been a good leader. Didn't take any shit, and spoke directly. | |||
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"As my other thread has been hijacked by arguments about that useless twat Jeremy Corbyn, here is one to nominate those who could have been great PMs given the chance. The nearly men and women of British history. My top 5: Barbara Castle John Smith Paddy Ashdown Charles Kennedy Michael Gove Is one of those a comedy answer? Otherwise, an interesting four out of five. I didn't always like the Lib Dems policies at the time. But I think Paddy Ashdown would have been a good leader. Didn't take any shit, and spoke directly. " I'd say provocative rather than comedy Gove has been an excellent Minister in all his roles, is obviously very intelligent and communicates well. | |||
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"As my other thread has been hijacked by arguments about that useless twat Jeremy Corbyn, here is one to nominate those who could have been great PMs given the chance. The nearly men and women of British history. My top 5: Barbara Castle John Smith Paddy Ashdown Charles Kennedy Michael Gove Is one of those a comedy answer? Otherwise, an interesting four out of five. I didn't always like the Lib Dems policies at the time. But I think Paddy Ashdown would have been a good leader. Didn't take any shit, and spoke directly. I'd say provocative rather than comedy Gove has been an excellent Minister in all his roles, is obviously very intelligent and communicates well." Michael Gove? We must be living in different universes. He's the worst communicator, catastrophic as environment minister. He used to get his info from Blue Planet! | |||
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"Corbyn would have been the best. That should make this thread lively " I forgot about Jezza, yes he would have been one of the best, | |||
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"Ian Paisley. " "No!!!!" | |||
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"Jeremy Corbyn ..Really sad day for our country when the choice was The NHS or Brexit and a 80 seat majority preferred blue passports and were prepared to wait hours for an ambulance , But that"s democracy , The country chose blue passports and got blue passports (happy days)" Lol. The useless twat Corbyn campaigned to leave the EU all his life | |||
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"Ian Paisley. "No!!!!"" I'm hearing that in a loud Ulster accent | |||
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"Ian Paisley. "No!!!!" I'm hearing that in a loud Ulster accent " "Never!!!" | |||
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"Jeremy Corbyn ..Really sad day for our country when the choice was The NHS or Brexit and a 80 seat majority preferred blue passports and were prepared to wait hours for an ambulance , But that"s democracy , The country chose blue passports and got blue passports (happy days) Lol. The useless twat Corbyn campaigned to leave the EU all his life " Lol, that was the only thing I ever agreed on what he campaigned about. | |||
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"Jeremy Corbyn ..Really sad day for our country when the choice was The NHS or Brexit and a 80 seat majority preferred blue passports and were prepared to wait hours for an ambulance , But that"s democracy , The country chose blue passports and got blue passports (happy days) Lol. The useless twat Corbyn campaigned to leave the EU all his life " He would have got a better Brexit deal than Boris | |||
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"As my other thread has been hijacked by arguments about that useless twat Jeremy Corbyn, here is one to nominate those who could have been great PMs given the chance. The nearly men and women of British history. My top 5: Barbara Castle John Smith Paddy Ashdown Charles Kennedy Michael Gove Michael “” Gove that was a joke right? John Smith yep. I would add Alan Johnson and David Miliband. " I always thought Alan Johnson would have been a good leader of the opposition. He would have given Labour a great chance of actually winning. Plus I think he was the last Labour MP to actually have a proper job before he became an MP. I'm also impressed with the current speaker of the house as well. He's very capable of keeping all the children in place when they start playing up. | |||
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"As my other thread has been hijacked by arguments about that useless twat Jeremy Corbyn, here is one to nominate those who could have been great PMs given the chance. The nearly men and women of British history. My top 5: Barbara Castle John Smith Paddy Ashdown Charles Kennedy Michael Gove Michael “” Gove that was a joke right? John Smith yep. I would add Alan Johnson and David Miliband. I always thought Alan Johnson would have been a good leader of the opposition. He would have given Labour a great chance of actually winning. Plus I think he was the last Labour MP to actually have a proper job before he became an MP. I'm also impressed with the current speaker of the house as well. He's very capable of keeping all the children in place when they start playing up." Alan Johnson is a good shout. An actual working class MP for one thing. | |||
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"Jeremy Corbyn ..Really sad day for our country when the choice was The NHS or Brexit and a 80 seat majority preferred blue passports and were prepared to wait hours for an ambulance , But that"s democracy , The country chose blue passports and got blue passports (happy days) Lol. The useless twat Corbyn campaigned to leave the EU all his life He would have got a better Brexit deal than Boris " Yes, probably made us part of Russia. | |||
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"Jeremy Corbyn ..Really sad day for our country when the choice was The NHS or Brexit and a 80 seat majority preferred blue passports and were prepared to wait hours for an ambulance , But that"s democracy , The country chose blue passports and got blue passports (happy days) Lol. The useless twat Corbyn campaigned to leave the EU all his life He would have got a better Brexit deal than Boris Yes, probably made us part of Russia. " How would he have done that? | |||
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"Jeremy Corbyn ..Really sad day for our country when the choice was The NHS or Brexit and a 80 seat majority preferred blue passports and were prepared to wait hours for an ambulance , But that"s democracy , The country chose blue passports and got blue passports (happy days) Lol. The useless twat Corbyn campaigned to leave the EU all his life He would have got a better Brexit deal than Boris Yes, probably made us part of Russia. How would he have done that? " In fairness, as far as nonsense made up about Corbyn. This is far from the most outlandish. | |||
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"Jeremy Corbyn ..Really sad day for our country when the choice was The NHS or Brexit and a 80 seat majority preferred blue passports and were prepared to wait hours for an ambulance , But that"s democracy , The country chose blue passports and got blue passports (happy days) Lol. The useless twat Corbyn campaigned to leave the EU all his life He would have got a better Brexit deal than Boris Yes, probably made us part of Russia. How would he have done that? In fairness, as far as nonsense made up about Corbyn. This is far from the most outlandish. " Maybe he could have started by putting a Russian and son of a KGB agent in the House of Lords? | |||
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"Jeremy Corbyn ..Really sad day for our country when the choice was The NHS or Brexit and a 80 seat majority preferred blue passports and were prepared to wait hours for an ambulance , But that"s democracy , The country chose blue passports and got blue passports (happy days) Lol. The useless twat Corbyn campaigned to leave the EU all his life He would have got a better Brexit deal than Boris Yes, probably made us part of Russia. How would he have done that? In fairness, as far as nonsense made up about Corbyn. This is far from the most outlandish. Maybe he could have started by putting a Russian and son of a KGB agent in the House of Lords? " | |||
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"As my other thread has been hijacked by arguments about that useless twat Jeremy Corbyn, here is one to nominate those who could have been great PMs given the chance. The nearly men and women of British history. My top 5: Barbara Castle John Smith Paddy Ashdown Charles Kennedy Michael Gove" Nigel farage | |||
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"Ghengis Khan. Come and have a go if you think you're hard enough. " Not the worst shout on this list! He got stuff done, was good with horses and had a great name. | |||
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"As my other thread has been hijacked by arguments about that useless twat Jeremy Corbyn, here is one to nominate those who could have been great PMs given the chance. The nearly men and women of British history. My top 5: Barbara Castle John Smith Paddy Ashdown Charles Kennedy Michael Gove Nigel farage " He couldn’t even get enough votes to be an MP | |||
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"As my other thread has been hijacked by arguments about that useless twat Jeremy Corbyn, here is one to nominate those who could have been great PMs given the chance. The nearly men and women of British history. My top 5: Barbara Castle John Smith Paddy Ashdown Charles Kennedy Michael Gove" I would agree with your list but not Michael Gove. He might actually have been a successful Minister if he was directed by someone with a positive purpose, but left to his own devices I think that he would be completely self-serving, as he has demonstrated. I would add Kenneth Clarke and Shirley Williams | |||
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"As my other thread has been hijacked by arguments about that useless twat Jeremy Corbyn, here is one to nominate those who could have been great PMs given the chance. The nearly men and women of British history. My top 5: Barbara Castle John Smith Paddy Ashdown Charles Kennedy Michael Gove Michael “” Gove that was a joke right? John Smith yep. I would add Alan Johnson and David Miliband. " More inclined to go for Alan Johnson as he didn't want the job, which seems to be an excellent qualification for it! | |||
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"As my other thread has been hijacked by arguments about that useless twat Jeremy Corbyn, here is one to nominate those who could have been great PMs given the chance. The nearly men and women of British history. My top 5: Barbara Castle John Smith Paddy Ashdown Charles Kennedy Michael Gove I would agree with your list but not Michael Gove. He might actually have been a successful Minister if he was directed by someone with a positive purpose, but left to his own devices I think that he would be completely self-serving, as he has demonstrated. I would add Kenneth Clarke and Shirley Williams" Two excellent suggestions. | |||
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"John Smith is probably the big 'what if' on the list as he almost certainly would have won the 1997 election. Wonder if Blair would ever have been PM then?" It would probably have been Gordon Brown instead | |||
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"As my other thread has been hijacked by arguments about that useless twat Jeremy Corbyn, here is one to nominate those who could have been great PMs given the chance. The nearly men and women of British history. My top 5: Barbara Castle John Smith Paddy Ashdown Charles Kennedy Michael Gove Michael “” Gove that was a joke right? John Smith yep. I would add Alan Johnson and David Miliband. More inclined to go for Alan Johnson as he didn't want the job, which seems to be an excellent qualification for it!" Lol yes very true. Lots of people wanted him but he didn’t want it. Met him a few times. A genuinely nice man, switched on, clever, empathetic, listened and absorbed. Shame. | |||
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"John Smith is probably the big 'what if' on the list as he almost certainly would have won the 1997 election. Wonder if Blair would ever have been PM then? It would probably have been Gordon Brown instead " Yes, Brown was his protege. | |||
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"I would have loved to see i think his name was skinner be pm.he was always been thrown out because he would say anser the question you lying b a s t. Would have been great to see somone honest say what they think" Dennis Skinner. I believe he has quite advanced dementia now. | |||
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"The only one of your list I would agree with would be John Smith, but I say that reluctantly as he was the leader of the Labour Party and every time they get into government they wreck our economy and I never want to see another Labour government in my lifetime. I would like to throw Jacob Rees-Moggs name into the argument - though, to be fair, he still remains a distinct possibility" The economy is wrecked and labour haven’t been in power for 13 years. What qualities (apart from annoying ‘lefties’ ) does JRM have to be PM | |||
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"The only one of your list I would agree with would be John Smith, but I say that reluctantly as he was the leader of the Labour Party and every time they get into government they wreck our economy and I never want to see another Labour government in my lifetime. I would like to throw Jacob Rees-Moggs name into the argument - though, to be fair, he still remains a distinct possibility" Lol. Amazing. | |||
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"The only one of your list I would agree with would be John Smith, but I say that reluctantly as he was the leader of the Labour Party and every time they get into government they wreck our economy and I never want to see another Labour government in my lifetime. I would like to throw Jacob Rees-Moggs name into the argument - though, to be fair, he still remains a distinct possibility The economy is wrecked and labour haven’t been in power for 13 years. What qualities (apart from annoying ‘lefties’ ) does JRM have to be PM" He votes against gay rights because he believes a fictional character tells him to. Some people seem to think that's cool. | |||
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"The only one of your list I would agree with would be John Smith, but I say that reluctantly as he was the leader of the Labour Party and every time they get into government they wreck our economy and I never want to see another Labour government in my lifetime. I would like to throw Jacob Rees-Moggs name into the argument - though, to be fair, he still remains a distinct possibility The economy is wrecked and labour haven’t been in power for 13 years. What qualities (apart from annoying ‘lefties’ ) does JRM have to be PM He votes against gay rights because he believes a fictional character tells him to. Some people seem to think that's cool." He is an ‘interesting’ character, some of the old footage of him when he was a child is scary | |||
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"The only one of your list I would agree with would be John Smith, but I say that reluctantly as he was the leader of the Labour Party and every time they get into government they wreck our economy and I never want to see another Labour government in my lifetime. I would like to throw Jacob Rees-Moggs name into the argument - though, to be fair, he still remains a distinct possibility" | |||
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"The only one of your list I would agree with would be John Smith, but I say that reluctantly as he was the leader of the Labour Party and every time they get into government they wreck our economy and I never want to see another Labour government in my lifetime. I would like to throw Jacob Rees-Moggs name into the argument - though, to be fair, he still remains a distinct possibility The economy is wrecked and labour haven’t been in power for 13 years. What qualities (apart from annoying ‘lefties’ ) does JRM have to be PM He votes against gay rights because he believes a fictional character tells him to. Some people seem to think that's cool. He is an ‘interesting’ character, some of the old footage of him when he was a child is scary " Returning to feudal manorialism would likely be his first act. That or hunger games style entertainment for rich people to watch us fighting eachother for food. | |||
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"What about Michael Portillo. I'm sure he would have got the trains sorted out." Man, that TV show with him going round on trains was the most boring thing I've seen in a long time. | |||
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"What about Michael Portillo. I'm sure he would have got the trains sorted out. Man, that TV show with him going round on trains was the most boring thing I've seen in a long time." I actually think it quite interesting. I've seen him film it at Stratford Station as well. | |||
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"What about Michael Portillo. I'm sure he would have got the trains sorted out." Fair point! Not sure about the dress sense though. | |||
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"I would have loved to see i think his name was skinner be pm.he was always been thrown out because he would say anser the question you lying b a s t. Would have been great to see somone honest say what they think" the beast of bolsover Dennis skinner | |||
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"What about Michael Portillo. I'm sure he would have got the trains sorted out. Man, that TV show with him going round on trains was the most boring thing I've seen in a long time. I actually think it quite interesting. I've seen him film it at Stratford Station as well." Maybe it was the episode I saw. | |||
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"Jeremy Corbyn ..Really sad day for our country when the choice was The NHS or Brexit and a 80 seat majority preferred blue passports and were prepared to wait hours for an ambulance , But that"s democracy , The country chose blue passports and got blue passports (happy days) Lol. The useless twat Corbyn campaigned to leave the EU all his life He would have got a better Brexit deal than Boris Yes, probably made us part of Russia. " You do realise the Tory party seems to be awash with dirty Russian money? And the mrs of our current Tory PM is still benefitting financially from a company based in Russia as far as I know. | |||
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"Jeremy Corbyn ..Really sad day for our country when the choice was The NHS or Brexit and a 80 seat majority preferred blue passports and were prepared to wait hours for an ambulance , But that"s democracy , The country chose blue passports and got blue passports (happy days) Lol. The useless twat Corbyn campaigned to leave the EU all his life He would have got a better Brexit deal than Boris Yes, probably made us part of Russia. You do realise the Tory party seems to be awash with dirty Russian money? And the mrs of our current Tory PM is still benefitting financially from a company based in Russia as far as I know." I think some people think Russia is still Communist | |||
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"Gerry Adams " PMQs would be interesting. Would his voice-over artist sit next to him? | |||
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"Nick Ferrari, I loved it when he tore Diane Abbott apart." Indeed, he's not a fan of non-white or non-christian people. He'd be great for all the people who think we need an even more hateful government that blames foriegners for everything. | |||
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"Nick Ferrari, I loved it when he tore Diane Abbott apart." That is the only reason why you want him to be PM ? | |||
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"Jeremy Corbyn ..Really sad day for our country when the choice was The NHS or Brexit and a 80 seat majority preferred blue passports and were prepared to wait hours for an ambulance , But that"s democracy , The country chose blue passports and got blue passports (happy days) Lol. The useless twat Corbyn campaigned to leave the EU all his life " If you actually look at where we are today and what Corbyn’s core beliefs were, and you have the ability to think impartially, you can quite easily arrive at the conclusion that we would be in a far better place now under a Corbyn Government. There would have been no Covid corruption. All Covid responses would have been generated around and through the NHS. The NHS therefore would have been expanded to cope with the Covid response and the NHS would have been in a better place at the end of Covid than it is now. His Brexit exit deal would have been far more pragmatic and useful to the British people than Johnson’s ideological Brexit. His vow to immediately take utilities back into the public domain would have meant the government would have been setting gas and electricity prices today for U.K. consumers, not the free markets. His vow to increase the minimum wage to £15 per hour would mean that absolute poverty would be over for working people at the very bottom of the ladder. The only thing I am not certain about is how he would have reacted to Ukraine. He is an absolute pacifist and would have been severely conflicted in his response. I’d like to see what his thoughts are in Ukraine but overall as a person who did not feel able to believe in Corbyn at the time, I think we would be in a better place today had Corbyn been PM. Unfortunately, the great British public felt that NHS, public ownership of utilities, the abolishment of poverty and equality in society was less important than blue passports, immigration and sticking it to foreigners. | |||
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"Jeremy Corbyn ..Really sad day for our country when the choice was The NHS or Brexit and a 80 seat majority preferred blue passports and were prepared to wait hours for an ambulance , But that"s democracy , The country chose blue passports and got blue passports (happy days) Lol. The useless twat Corbyn campaigned to leave the EU all his life If you actually look at where we are today and what Corbyn’s core beliefs were, and you have the ability to think impartially, you can quite easily arrive at the conclusion that we would be in a far better place now under a Corbyn Government. There would have been no Covid corruption. All Covid responses would have been generated around and through the NHS. The NHS therefore would have been expanded to cope with the Covid response and the NHS would have been in a better place at the end of Covid than it is now. His Brexit exit deal would have been far more pragmatic and useful to the British people than Johnson’s ideological Brexit. His vow to immediately take utilities back into the public domain would have meant the government would have been setting gas and electricity prices today for U.K. consumers, not the free markets. His vow to increase the minimum wage to £15 per hour would mean that absolute poverty would be over for working people at the very bottom of the ladder. The only thing I am not certain about is how he would have reacted to Ukraine. He is an absolute pacifist and would have been severely conflicted in his response. I’d like to see what his thoughts are in Ukraine but overall as a person who did not feel able to believe in Corbyn at the time, I think we would be in a better place today had Corbyn been PM. Unfortunately, the great British public felt that NHS, public ownership of utilities, the abolishment of poverty and equality in society was less important than blue passports, immigration and sticking it to foreigners." I am another person who had a fair few question marks over Corbyn. Saying that, how we all laughed at his proposal for universal broadband...seems rather prescient now with the pandemic and shift in work practices for so many who are now working from home! | |||
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"Jeremy Corbyn ..Really sad day for our country when the choice was The NHS or Brexit and a 80 seat majority preferred blue passports and were prepared to wait hours for an ambulance , But that"s democracy , The country chose blue passports and got blue passports (happy days) Lol. The useless twat Corbyn campaigned to leave the EU all his life If you actually look at where we are today and what Corbyn’s core beliefs were, and you have the ability to think impartially, you can quite easily arrive at the conclusion that we would be in a far better place now under a Corbyn Government. There would have been no Covid corruption. All Covid responses would have been generated around and through the NHS. The NHS therefore would have been expanded to cope with the Covid response and the NHS would have been in a better place at the end of Covid than it is now. His Brexit exit deal would have been far more pragmatic and useful to the British people than Johnson’s ideological Brexit. His vow to immediately take utilities back into the public domain would have meant the government would have been setting gas and electricity prices today for U.K. consumers, not the free markets. His vow to increase the minimum wage to £15 per hour would mean that absolute poverty would be over for working people at the very bottom of the ladder. The only thing I am not certain about is how he would have reacted to Ukraine. He is an absolute pacifist and would have been severely conflicted in his response. I’d like to see what his thoughts are in Ukraine but overall as a person who did not feel able to believe in Corbyn at the time, I think we would be in a better place today had Corbyn been PM. Unfortunately, the great British public felt that NHS, public ownership of utilities, the abolishment of poverty and equality in society was less important than blue passports, immigration and sticking it to foreigners. I am another person who had a fair few question marks over Corbyn. Saying that, how we all laughed at his proposal for universal broadband...seems rather prescient now with the pandemic and shift in work practices for so many who are now working from home!" I couldn't get behind the universal broadband. I now see the argument for it after the pandemic, however, we've never had universal post or telephony and we managed. | |||
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"Jeremy Corbyn ..Really sad day for our country when the choice was The NHS or Brexit and a 80 seat majority preferred blue passports and were prepared to wait hours for an ambulance , But that"s democracy , The country chose blue passports and got blue passports (happy days) Lol. The useless twat Corbyn campaigned to leave the EU all his life If you actually look at where we are today and what Corbyn’s core beliefs were, and you have the ability to think impartially, you can quite easily arrive at the conclusion that we would be in a far better place now under a Corbyn Government. There would have been no Covid corruption. All Covid responses would have been generated around and through the NHS. The NHS therefore would have been expanded to cope with the Covid response and the NHS would have been in a better place at the end of Covid than it is now. His Brexit exit deal would have been far more pragmatic and useful to the British people than Johnson’s ideological Brexit. His vow to immediately take utilities back into the public domain would have meant the government would have been setting gas and electricity prices today for U.K. consumers, not the free markets. His vow to increase the minimum wage to £15 per hour would mean that absolute poverty would be over for working people at the very bottom of the ladder. The only thing I am not certain about is how he would have reacted to Ukraine. He is an absolute pacifist and would have been severely conflicted in his response. I’d like to see what his thoughts are in Ukraine but overall as a person who did not feel able to believe in Corbyn at the time, I think we would be in a better place today had Corbyn been PM. Unfortunately, the great British public felt that NHS, public ownership of utilities, the abolishment of poverty and equality in society was less important than blue passports, immigration and sticking it to foreigners. I am another person who had a fair few question marks over Corbyn. Saying that, how we all laughed at his proposal for universal broadband...seems rather prescient now with the pandemic and shift in work practices for so many who are now working from home! I couldn't get behind the universal broadband. I now see the argument for it after the pandemic, however, we've never had universal post or telephony and we managed." Yep back in 2019 when Corbyn announced his manifesto and it included universal broadband I just but now it makes him look like a prophet | |||
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"Can we please stick to serious suggestions rather than the useless twat and racist Putin fanboy Jeremy Corbyn? Thanks. " OK. I'll give you.........Wait for it......... Lefties grab the Brandy bottle.......Yes........A big round of applause for the best PM we never had. I give you........Drum roll........ Mr Norman Tebbit. | |||
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"Nick Ferrari, I loved it when he tore Diane Abbott apart. That is the only reason why you want him to be PM ? " No, he always asks the right questions, challenges and think he would get things done | |||
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"Nick Ferrari, I loved it when he tore Diane Abbott apart. That is the only reason why you want him to be PM ? No, he always asks the right questions, challenges and think he would get things done " Asking a question is a long way from finding a solution for a complex problem and doing something about it. Thinking that someone would "get things done". Because they say so or seem credible rather than ever having demonstrated their capability to do so. Perhaps that's the problem with how people pick who they vote for? | |||
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"Can we please stick to serious suggestions rather than the useless twat and racist Putin fanboy Jeremy Corbyn? Thanks. " Pretty sure I said this before, but I'll say it again. It's the Tory party that's awash with dirty Russian money. Also, Johnson stuck Lebedev in the lords. Also, I'm pretty sure Corbyn was condemning Putin long before most people started condemning him. Also, Corbyn's been an antiracist for decades. The only bit of your statement that can stand up at all is that Corbyn was useless in the sense he clearly failed to get elected as PM. But when people believed so many smears about him, is that a surprise? | |||
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"Can we please stick to serious suggestions rather than the useless twat and racist Putin fanboy Jeremy Corbyn? Thanks. Pretty sure I said this before, but I'll say it again. It's the Tory party that's awash with dirty Russian money. Also, Johnson stuck Lebedev in the lords. Also, I'm pretty sure Corbyn was condemning Putin long before most people started condemning him. Also, Corbyn's been an antiracist for decades. The only bit of your statement that can stand up at all is that Corbyn was useless in the sense he clearly failed to get elected as PM. But when people believed so many smears about him, is that a surprise?" Jews don't matter I guess | |||
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"Can we please stick to serious suggestions rather than the useless twat and racist Putin fanboy Jeremy Corbyn? Thanks. Pretty sure I said this before, but I'll say it again. It's the Tory party that's awash with dirty Russian money. Also, Johnson stuck Lebedev in the lords. Also, I'm pretty sure Corbyn was condemning Putin long before most people started condemning him. Also, Corbyn's been an antiracist for decades. The only bit of your statement that can stand up at all is that Corbyn was useless in the sense he clearly failed to get elected as PM. But when people believed so many smears about him, is that a surprise? Jews don't matter I guess " Of course jews matter. Please show me the racist thing Corbyn said or wrote about jews. | |||
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"Can we please stick to serious suggestions rather than the useless twat and racist Putin fanboy Jeremy Corbyn? Thanks. Pretty sure I said this before, but I'll say it again. It's the Tory party that's awash with dirty Russian money. Also, Johnson stuck Lebedev in the lords. Also, I'm pretty sure Corbyn was condemning Putin long before most people started condemning him. Also, Corbyn's been an antiracist for decades. The only bit of your statement that can stand up at all is that Corbyn was useless in the sense he clearly failed to get elected as PM. But when people believed so many smears about him, is that a surprise? Jews don't matter I guess Of course jews matter. Please show me the racist thing Corbyn said or wrote about jews." By contrast, Braverman right now is using similar dehumanising language about immigrants to what the Nazis used about jews. | |||
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"Nick Ferrari, I loved it when he tore Diane Abbott apart. That is the only reason why you want him to be PM ? No, he always asks the right questions, challenges and think he would get things done " Ah right, maybe he will run to be an MP at the next election | |||
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"As my other thread has been hijacked by arguments about that useless twat Jeremy Corbyn, here is one to nominate those who could have been great PMs given the chance. The nearly men and women of British history. My top 5: Barbara Castle John Smith Paddy Ashdown Charles Kennedy Michael Gove" Smith and Ashdown would have been respected by other leaders. Seems nowadays, people seem to think that good relationships between leaders doesn't matter.. | |||
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"Why has nobody mentioned Caroline Lucas? " Now you have. | |||
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"Neil Kinnock??" He seemed pretty useless. John Smith seemed more of a loss. | |||
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"Well alright!" I wasn't taking the piss. Actually you mentioning Lucas raises a point. Smaller parties get ignored far too much. | |||
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"Ghengis Khan. Come and have a go if you think you're hard enough. " Nah, he’s too busy being Mayor of London How’s about two heads being better than one...Ant & Dec | |||
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"Well alright! I wasn't taking the piss. Actually you mentioning Lucas raises a point. Smaller parties get ignored far too much." Caroline Lucas and Rory Stewart would be an interesting partnership . Hopefully John smiths aura can lend a hand too! His death was a big loss to the society and prosperity of the U.K. . | |||
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"I would have loved Tony Benn to have won in 1979 instead of Margaret Thatcher....It would have been a hugely different situation in Britain now..." I did well from thatcher but the country’s long term prospects were badly damaged by her. I regret not seeing that damage earlier. What do you think Benn would have done to help us prosper? Genuine question as I was bias against him at the time and that’s bad of me. | |||
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"I would have loved Tony Benn to have won in 1979 instead of Margaret Thatcher....It would have been a hugely different situation in Britain now... I did well from thatcher but the country’s long term prospects were badly damaged by her. I regret not seeing that damage earlier. What do you think Benn would have done to help us prosper? Genuine question as I was bias against him at the time and that’s bad of me. " Interesting, because I was biased against Thatcher...No politician suffered the hostility that Benn endured around that period.. Instead of a right wing revolution that was delivered by Thatcher, we would have had a left wing revolution from Benn.How it would have played out I don't know, but I guess a fairer system and the gap between the wealthy and the poorer people would be narrower.Trains, energy, water etc would perhaps be still nationalised.Who knows, it never happened! | |||
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"I would have loved Tony Benn to have won in 1979 instead of Margaret Thatcher....It would have been a hugely different situation in Britain now... I did well from thatcher but the country’s long term prospects were badly damaged by her. I regret not seeing that damage earlier. What do you think Benn would have done to help us prosper? Genuine question as I was bias against him at the time and that’s bad of me. Interesting, because I was biased against Thatcher...No politician suffered the hostility that Benn endured around that period.. Instead of a right wing revolution that was delivered by Thatcher, we would have had a left wing revolution from Benn.How it would have played out I don't know, but I guess a fairer system and the gap between the wealthy and the poorer people would be narrower.Trains, energy, water etc would perhaps be still nationalised.Who knows, it never happened!" I think we would have a fairer society and if he’d been pro the EEC then the economy may have grown just as much but the wealth would have stayed in the country. People go on about the banks but if manufacturing had prospered too then the banks wouldn’t have been so critical to the economy or affected us so badly in the crash . We could have afforded it as a nation and avoided austerity altogether. Who knows.. | |||
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"I would have loved Tony Benn to have won in 1979 instead of Margaret Thatcher....It would have been a hugely different situation in Britain now..." My family actually knew Benn quite well. He was charming but couldn't run a bath. | |||
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"Liz Truss would have been amazing, but she was sabotaged & destroyed by Liz Truss." Who knew there was so many Liz Trusses in the world!! It’s a shame there weren’t more as we could have saved a fortune on last minute private jet flights. Her spending was obscene. | |||
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"I would have loved Tony Benn to have won in 1979 instead of Margaret Thatcher....It would have been a hugely different situation in Britain now... My family actually knew Benn quite well. He was charming but couldn't run a bath." Not sure if he could run a bath (lol )but was energy secretary 1975 to 1979 is but became anti-nuclear post 79 as you know.. | |||
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"Can we please stick to serious suggestions rather than the useless twat and racist Putin fanboy Jeremy Corbyn? Thanks. Pretty sure I said this before, but I'll say it again. It's the Tory party that's awash with dirty Russian money. Also, Johnson stuck Lebedev in the lords. Also, I'm pretty sure Corbyn was condemning Putin long before most people started condemning him. Also, Corbyn's been an antiracist for decades. The only bit of your statement that can stand up at all is that Corbyn was useless in the sense he clearly failed to get elected as PM. But when people believed so many smears about him, is that a surprise? Jews don't matter I guess " They do indeed matter but I am sure you are well aware that there are Jews of all political persuasions and that for all the liberty and freedom that say gay people have in Israel, there are a lot of Palestinians who have suffered at Israeli hands. I don’t think it’s about colour or creed, it’s more about people, and so the fact that Corbyn has spent his life engaging with down trodden people and that this has exposed some of the Jewish peoples less likeable behaviours does not make him anti-Jewish per se | |||
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"You've gone from talking about Jews to Israel. You don't think that's problematic at all?" No I don’t because of Jeremy Corbyn’s support of Palestinian rights which is directly related to Israel. Read what I wrote and come back if you can see any partisan agenda or untruths! If somebody says oh it’s all about Jews then that is just repeating the cheap lies that the right wing press have pushed about Corbyn for years. I understand it’s an emotive subject but I was just responding to the lazy comments of another poster. Oh and Btw I grew up in East London, went to school with Jewish Kids, my granny’s best friend and neighbour was Jewish and I have nothing but sympathy for the Jewish people and the horrors of what good Christian Germans did to them… | |||
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"Can we please stick to serious suggestions rather than the useless twat and racist Putin fanboy Jeremy Corbyn? Thanks. Pretty sure I said this before, but I'll say it again. It's the Tory party that's awash with dirty Russian money. Also, Johnson stuck Lebedev in the lords. Also, I'm pretty sure Corbyn was condemning Putin long before most people started condemning him. Also, Corbyn's been an antiracist for decades. The only bit of your statement that can stand up at all is that Corbyn was useless in the sense he clearly failed to get elected as PM. But when people believed so many smears about him, is that a surprise? Jews don't matter I guess They do indeed matter but I am sure you are well aware that there are Jews of all political persuasions and that for all the liberty and freedom that say gay people have in Israel, there are a lot of Palestinians who have suffered at Israeli hands. I don’t think it’s about colour or creed, it’s more about people, and so the fact that Corbyn has spent his life engaging with down trodden people and that this has exposed some of the Jewish peoples less likeable behaviours does not make him anti-Jewish per se" Nah, he's a useless racist twat. | |||
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"Can we please stick to serious suggestions rather than the useless twat and racist Putin fanboy Jeremy Corbyn? Thanks. Pretty sure I said this before, but I'll say it again. It's the Tory party that's awash with dirty Russian money. Also, Johnson stuck Lebedev in the lords. Also, I'm pretty sure Corbyn was condemning Putin long before most people started condemning him. Also, Corbyn's been an antiracist for decades. The only bit of your statement that can stand up at all is that Corbyn was useless in the sense he clearly failed to get elected as PM. But when people believed so many smears about him, is that a surprise? Jews don't matter I guess They do indeed matter but I am sure you are well aware that there are Jews of all political persuasions and that for all the liberty and freedom that say gay people have in Israel, there are a lot of Palestinians who have suffered at Israeli hands. I don’t think it’s about colour or creed, it’s more about people, and so the fact that Corbyn has spent his life engaging with down trodden people and that this has exposed some of the Jewish peoples less likeable behaviours does not make him anti-Jewish per se Nah, he's a useless racist twat." You should read the EHRC report. Corbyn campaigned against racism his whole life. | |||
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"Can we please stick to serious suggestions rather than the useless twat and racist Putin fanboy Jeremy Corbyn? Thanks. Pretty sure I said this before, but I'll say it again. It's the Tory party that's awash with dirty Russian money. Also, Johnson stuck Lebedev in the lords. Also, I'm pretty sure Corbyn was condemning Putin long before most people started condemning him. Also, Corbyn's been an antiracist for decades. The only bit of your statement that can stand up at all is that Corbyn was useless in the sense he clearly failed to get elected as PM. But when people believed so many smears about him, is that a surprise? Jews don't matter I guess They do indeed matter but I am sure you are well aware that there are Jews of all political persuasions and that for all the liberty and freedom that say gay people have in Israel, there are a lot of Palestinians who have suffered at Israeli hands. I don’t think it’s about colour or creed, it’s more about people, and so the fact that Corbyn has spent his life engaging with down trodden people and that this has exposed some of the Jewish peoples less likeable behaviours does not make him anti-Jewish per se Nah, he's a useless racist twat. You should read the EHRC report. Corbyn campaigned against racism his whole life." | |||
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"Can we please stick to serious suggestions rather than the useless twat and racist Putin fanboy Jeremy Corbyn? Thanks. Pretty sure I said this before, but I'll say it again. It's the Tory party that's awash with dirty Russian money. Also, Johnson stuck Lebedev in the lords. Also, I'm pretty sure Corbyn was condemning Putin long before most people started condemning him. Also, Corbyn's been an antiracist for decades. The only bit of your statement that can stand up at all is that Corbyn was useless in the sense he clearly failed to get elected as PM. But when people believed so many smears about him, is that a surprise? Jews don't matter I guess They do indeed matter but I am sure you are well aware that there are Jews of all political persuasions and that for all the liberty and freedom that say gay people have in Israel, there are a lot of Palestinians who have suffered at Israeli hands. I don’t think it’s about colour or creed, it’s more about people, and so the fact that Corbyn has spent his life engaging with down trodden people and that this has exposed some of the Jewish peoples less likeable behaviours does not make him anti-Jewish per se Nah, he's a useless racist twat. You should read the EHRC report. Corbyn campaigned against racism his whole life. " Or you could choose to learn something? | |||
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"Can we please stick to serious suggestions rather than the useless twat and racist Putin fanboy Jeremy Corbyn? Thanks. Pretty sure I said this before, but I'll say it again. It's the Tory party that's awash with dirty Russian money. Also, Johnson stuck Lebedev in the lords. Also, I'm pretty sure Corbyn was condemning Putin long before most people started condemning him. Also, Corbyn's been an antiracist for decades. The only bit of your statement that can stand up at all is that Corbyn was useless in the sense he clearly failed to get elected as PM. But when people believed so many smears about him, is that a surprise? Jews don't matter I guess They do indeed matter but I am sure you are well aware that there are Jews of all political persuasions and that for all the liberty and freedom that say gay people have in Israel, there are a lot of Palestinians who have suffered at Israeli hands. I don’t think it’s about colour or creed, it’s more about people, and so the fact that Corbyn has spent his life engaging with down trodden people and that this has exposed some of the Jewish peoples less likeable behaviours does not make him anti-Jewish per se Nah, he's a useless racist twat. You should read the EHRC report. Corbyn campaigned against racism his whole life. " I did ask you earlier in the thread what Corbyn has ever said or written that was racist. Still waiting on a reply that's actually factual... | |||
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"Can we please stick to serious suggestions rather than the useless twat and racist Putin fanboy Jeremy Corbyn? Thanks. Pretty sure I said this before, but I'll say it again. It's the Tory party that's awash with dirty Russian money. Also, Johnson stuck Lebedev in the lords. Also, I'm pretty sure Corbyn was condemning Putin long before most people started condemning him. Also, Corbyn's been an antiracist for decades. The only bit of your statement that can stand up at all is that Corbyn was useless in the sense he clearly failed to get elected as PM. But when people believed so many smears about him, is that a surprise? Jews don't matter I guess They do indeed matter but I am sure you are well aware that there are Jews of all political persuasions and that for all the liberty and freedom that say gay people have in Israel, there are a lot of Palestinians who have suffered at Israeli hands. I don’t think it’s about colour or creed, it’s more about people, and so the fact that Corbyn has spent his life engaging with down trodden people and that this has exposed some of the Jewish peoples less likeable behaviours does not make him anti-Jewish per se Nah, he's a useless racist twat. You should read the EHRC report. Corbyn campaigned against racism his whole life. I did ask you earlier in the thread what Corbyn has ever said or written that was racist. Still waiting on a reply that's actually factual..." Just like we're all waiting for you to provide evidence that Zahawi has a 'taxing problem' after his HMRC 'investigation' etc etc Corbyn was rightly suspended from the Labour Party after the damming ECHR report into anti -semitism. Zahawi still Chairman of the Conservative Party | |||
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"Can we please stick to serious suggestions rather than the useless twat and racist Putin fanboy Jeremy Corbyn? Thanks. Pretty sure I said this before, but I'll say it again. It's the Tory party that's awash with dirty Russian money. Also, Johnson stuck Lebedev in the lords. Also, I'm pretty sure Corbyn was condemning Putin long before most people started condemning him. Also, Corbyn's been an antiracist for decades. The only bit of your statement that can stand up at all is that Corbyn was useless in the sense he clearly failed to get elected as PM. But when people believed so many smears about him, is that a surprise? Jews don't matter I guess They do indeed matter but I am sure you are well aware that there are Jews of all political persuasions and that for all the liberty and freedom that say gay people have in Israel, there are a lot of Palestinians who have suffered at Israeli hands. I don’t think it’s about colour or creed, it’s more about people, and so the fact that Corbyn has spent his life engaging with down trodden people and that this has exposed some of the Jewish peoples less likeable behaviours does not make him anti-Jewish per se Nah, he's a useless racist twat. You should read the EHRC report. Corbyn campaigned against racism his whole life. I did ask you earlier in the thread what Corbyn has ever said or written that was racist. Still waiting on a reply that's actually factual... Just like we're all waiting for you to provide evidence that Zahawi has a 'taxing problem' after his HMRC 'investigation' etc etc Corbyn was rightly suspended from the Labour Party after the damming ECHR report into anti -semitism. Zahawi still Chairman of the Conservative Party " As I said, what's Corbyn ever said or written that was racist? It should be easy to provide examples if he's such a terrible racist. | |||
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"Can we please stick to serious suggestions rather than the useless twat and racist Putin fanboy Jeremy Corbyn? Thanks. Pretty sure I said this before, but I'll say it again. It's the Tory party that's awash with dirty Russian money. Also, Johnson stuck Lebedev in the lords. Also, I'm pretty sure Corbyn was condemning Putin long before most people started condemning him. Also, Corbyn's been an antiracist for decades. The only bit of your statement that can stand up at all is that Corbyn was useless in the sense he clearly failed to get elected as PM. But when people believed so many smears about him, is that a surprise? Jews don't matter I guess They do indeed matter but I am sure you are well aware that there are Jews of all political persuasions and that for all the liberty and freedom that say gay people have in Israel, there are a lot of Palestinians who have suffered at Israeli hands. I don’t think it’s about colour or creed, it’s more about people, and so the fact that Corbyn has spent his life engaging with down trodden people and that this has exposed some of the Jewish peoples less likeable behaviours does not make him anti-Jewish per se Nah, he's a useless racist twat. You should read the EHRC report. Corbyn campaigned against racism his whole life. I did ask you earlier in the thread what Corbyn has ever said or written that was racist. Still waiting on a reply that's actually factual... Just like we're all waiting for you to provide evidence that Zahawi has a 'taxing problem' after his HMRC 'investigation' etc etc Corbyn was rightly suspended from the Labour Party after the damming ECHR report into anti -semitism. Zahawi still Chairman of the Conservative Party As I said, what's Corbyn ever said or written that was racist? It should be easy to provide examples if he's such a terrible racist." Strange little man. Racist? Who would think that? Not me of course. I'd never think such a thing. But as regards being suspended by Keir Starmer from the Labour Party, having read the ECHR report into anti-semitism, this was the right decision Have you read the report? It's easily available online. Which parts do you disagree with? Have you taken up the suspension with Keir if you think it was wrong? Do you think it was wrong? | |||
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"Can we please stick to serious suggestions rather than the useless twat and racist Putin fanboy Jeremy Corbyn? Thanks. Pretty sure I said this before, but I'll say it again. It's the Tory party that's awash with dirty Russian money. Also, Johnson stuck Lebedev in the lords. Also, I'm pretty sure Corbyn was condemning Putin long before most people started condemning him. Also, Corbyn's been an antiracist for decades. The only bit of your statement that can stand up at all is that Corbyn was useless in the sense he clearly failed to get elected as PM. But when people believed so many smears about him, is that a surprise? Jews don't matter I guess They do indeed matter but I am sure you are well aware that there are Jews of all political persuasions and that for all the liberty and freedom that say gay people have in Israel, there are a lot of Palestinians who have suffered at Israeli hands. I don’t think it’s about colour or creed, it’s more about people, and so the fact that Corbyn has spent his life engaging with down trodden people and that this has exposed some of the Jewish peoples less likeable behaviours does not make him anti-Jewish per se Nah, he's a useless racist twat. You should read the EHRC report. Corbyn campaigned against racism his whole life. I did ask you earlier in the thread what Corbyn has ever said or written that was racist. Still waiting on a reply that's actually factual... Just like we're all waiting for you to provide evidence that Zahawi has a 'taxing problem' after his HMRC 'investigation' etc etc Corbyn was rightly suspended from the Labour Party after the damming ECHR report into anti -semitism. Zahawi still Chairman of the Conservative Party As I said, what's Corbyn ever said or written that was racist? It should be easy to provide examples if he's such a terrible racist. Strange little man. Racist? Who would think that? Not me of course. I'd never think such a thing. But as regards being suspended by Keir Starmer from the Labour Party, having read the ECHR report into anti-semitism, this was the right decision Have you read the report? It's easily available online. Which parts do you disagree with? Have you taken up the suspension with Keir if you think it was wrong? Do you think it was wrong? " You were replying to a bit of the thread that states Corbyn is racist. I simply asked for proof. Since you don't seem to think he's racist after all, I guess that conversation with you is over. Yes I read the report ages ago. I can't remember the whole thing right now. But was Corbyn a failure as a leader? Yes, demonstrably. | |||
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"Can we please stick to serious suggestions rather than the useless twat and racist Putin fanboy Jeremy Corbyn? Thanks. Pretty sure I said this before, but I'll say it again. It's the Tory party that's awash with dirty Russian money. Also, Johnson stuck Lebedev in the lords. Also, I'm pretty sure Corbyn was condemning Putin long before most people started condemning him. Also, Corbyn's been an antiracist for decades. The only bit of your statement that can stand up at all is that Corbyn was useless in the sense he clearly failed to get elected as PM. But when people believed so many smears about him, is that a surprise? Jews don't matter I guess They do indeed matter but I am sure you are well aware that there are Jews of all political persuasions and that for all the liberty and freedom that say gay people have in Israel, there are a lot of Palestinians who have suffered at Israeli hands. I don’t think it’s about colour or creed, it’s more about people, and so the fact that Corbyn has spent his life engaging with down trodden people and that this has exposed some of the Jewish peoples less likeable behaviours does not make him anti-Jewish per se Nah, he's a useless racist twat. You should read the EHRC report. Corbyn campaigned against racism his whole life. I did ask you earlier in the thread what Corbyn has ever said or written that was racist. Still waiting on a reply that's actually factual... Just like we're all waiting for you to provide evidence that Zahawi has a 'taxing problem' after his HMRC 'investigation' etc etc Corbyn was rightly suspended from the Labour Party after the damming ECHR report into anti -semitism. Zahawi still Chairman of the Conservative Party As I said, what's Corbyn ever said or written that was racist? It should be easy to provide examples if he's such a terrible racist. Strange little man. Racist? Who would think that? Not me of course. I'd never think such a thing. But as regards being suspended by Keir Starmer from the Labour Party, having read the ECHR report into anti-semitism, this was the right decision Have you read the report? It's easily available online. Which parts do you disagree with? Have you taken up the suspension with Keir if you think it was wrong? Do you think it was wrong? You were replying to a bit of the thread that states Corbyn is racist. I simply asked for proof. Since you don't seem to think he's racist after all, I guess that conversation with you is over. Yes I read the report ages ago. I can't remember the whole thing right now. But was Corbyn a failure as a leader? Yes, demonstrably." It would be daft of anyone to say Corbyn is racist. He definitely is not. However, even though you read the report some time ago, you must remember concluding whether you thought it was right or not of Starmer to suspend Corbyn. It was a major move after all. Do you think it was right? | |||
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"Can we please stick to serious suggestions rather than the useless twat and racist Putin fanboy Jeremy Corbyn? Thanks. Pretty sure I said this before, but I'll say it again. It's the Tory party that's awash with dirty Russian money. Also, Johnson stuck Lebedev in the lords. Also, I'm pretty sure Corbyn was condemning Putin long before most people started condemning him. Also, Corbyn's been an antiracist for decades. The only bit of your statement that can stand up at all is that Corbyn was useless in the sense he clearly failed to get elected as PM. But when people believed so many smears about him, is that a surprise? Jews don't matter I guess They do indeed matter but I am sure you are well aware that there are Jews of all political persuasions and that for all the liberty and freedom that say gay people have in Israel, there are a lot of Palestinians who have suffered at Israeli hands. I don’t think it’s about colour or creed, it’s more about people, and so the fact that Corbyn has spent his life engaging with down trodden people and that this has exposed some of the Jewish peoples less likeable behaviours does not make him anti-Jewish per se Nah, he's a useless racist twat. You should read the EHRC report. Corbyn campaigned against racism his whole life. I did ask you earlier in the thread what Corbyn has ever said or written that was racist. Still waiting on a reply that's actually factual... Just like we're all waiting for you to provide evidence that Zahawi has a 'taxing problem' after his HMRC 'investigation' etc etc Corbyn was rightly suspended from the Labour Party after the damming ECHR report into anti -semitism. Zahawi still Chairman of the Conservative Party As I said, what's Corbyn ever said or written that was racist? It should be easy to provide examples if he's such a terrible racist. Strange little man. Racist? Who would think that? Not me of course. I'd never think such a thing. But as regards being suspended by Keir Starmer from the Labour Party, having read the ECHR report into anti-semitism, this was the right decision Have you read the report? It's easily available online. Which parts do you disagree with? Have you taken up the suspension with Keir if you think it was wrong? Do you think it was wrong? You were replying to a bit of the thread that states Corbyn is racist. I simply asked for proof. Since you don't seem to think he's racist after all, I guess that conversation with you is over. Yes I read the report ages ago. I can't remember the whole thing right now. But was Corbyn a failure as a leader? Yes, demonstrably. It would be daft of anyone to say Corbyn is racist. He definitely is not. However, even though you read the report some time ago, you must remember concluding whether you thought it was right or not of Starmer to suspend Corbyn. It was a major move after all. Do you think it was right? " I can't remember all the details, so I can't comment accurately. And I try to be accurate & factual. | |||
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"Can we please stick to serious suggestions rather than the useless twat and racist Putin fanboy Jeremy Corbyn? Thanks. Pretty sure I said this before, but I'll say it again. It's the Tory party that's awash with dirty Russian money. Also, Johnson stuck Lebedev in the lords. Also, I'm pretty sure Corbyn was condemning Putin long before most people started condemning him. Also, Corbyn's been an antiracist for decades. The only bit of your statement that can stand up at all is that Corbyn was useless in the sense he clearly failed to get elected as PM. But when people believed so many smears about him, is that a surprise? Jews don't matter I guess They do indeed matter but I am sure you are well aware that there are Jews of all political persuasions and that for all the liberty and freedom that say gay people have in Israel, there are a lot of Palestinians who have suffered at Israeli hands. I don’t think it’s about colour or creed, it’s more about people, and so the fact that Corbyn has spent his life engaging with down trodden people and that this has exposed some of the Jewish peoples less likeable behaviours does not make him anti-Jewish per se Nah, he's a useless racist twat. You should read the EHRC report. Corbyn campaigned against racism his whole life. I did ask you earlier in the thread what Corbyn has ever said or written that was racist. Still waiting on a reply that's actually factual... Just like we're all waiting for you to provide evidence that Zahawi has a 'taxing problem' after his HMRC 'investigation' etc etc Corbyn was rightly suspended from the Labour Party after the damming ECHR report into anti -semitism. Zahawi still Chairman of the Conservative Party As I said, what's Corbyn ever said or written that was racist? It should be easy to provide examples if he's such a terrible racist. Strange little man. Racist? Who would think that? Not me of course. I'd never think such a thing. But as regards being suspended by Keir Starmer from the Labour Party, having read the ECHR report into anti-semitism, this was the right decision Have you read the report? It's easily available online. Which parts do you disagree with? Have you taken up the suspension with Keir if you think it was wrong? Do you think it was wrong? You were replying to a bit of the thread that states Corbyn is racist. I simply asked for proof. Since you don't seem to think he's racist after all, I guess that conversation with you is over. Yes I read the report ages ago. I can't remember the whole thing right now. But was Corbyn a failure as a leader? Yes, demonstrably. It would be daft of anyone to say Corbyn is racist. He definitely is not. However, even though you read the report some time ago, you must remember concluding whether you thought it was right or not of Starmer to suspend Corbyn. It was a major move after all. Do you think it was right? I can't remember all the details, so I can't comment accurately. And I try to be accurate & factual." Some might say you sound as unconvincing as a third rate politician. Smearing an Iraqi refugee is not being accurate and factual. Have a refresh on the report and let us know | |||
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"Can we please stick to serious suggestions rather than the useless twat and racist Putin fanboy Jeremy Corbyn? Thanks. Pretty sure I said this before, but I'll say it again. It's the Tory party that's awash with dirty Russian money. Also, Johnson stuck Lebedev in the lords. Also, I'm pretty sure Corbyn was condemning Putin long before most people started condemning him. Also, Corbyn's been an antiracist for decades. The only bit of your statement that can stand up at all is that Corbyn was useless in the sense he clearly failed to get elected as PM. But when people believed so many smears about him, is that a surprise? Jews don't matter I guess They do indeed matter but I am sure you are well aware that there are Jews of all political persuasions and that for all the liberty and freedom that say gay people have in Israel, there are a lot of Palestinians who have suffered at Israeli hands. I don’t think it’s about colour or creed, it’s more about people, and so the fact that Corbyn has spent his life engaging with down trodden people and that this has exposed some of the Jewish peoples less likeable behaviours does not make him anti-Jewish per se Nah, he's a useless racist twat. You should read the EHRC report. Corbyn campaigned against racism his whole life. I did ask you earlier in the thread what Corbyn has ever said or written that was racist. Still waiting on a reply that's actually factual... Just like we're all waiting for you to provide evidence that Zahawi has a 'taxing problem' after his HMRC 'investigation' etc etc Corbyn was rightly suspended from the Labour Party after the damming ECHR report into anti -semitism. Zahawi still Chairman of the Conservative Party As I said, what's Corbyn ever said or written that was racist? It should be easy to provide examples if he's such a terrible racist. Strange little man. Racist? Who would think that? Not me of course. I'd never think such a thing. But as regards being suspended by Keir Starmer from the Labour Party, having read the ECHR report into anti-semitism, this was the right decision Have you read the report? It's easily available online. Which parts do you disagree with? Have you taken up the suspension with Keir if you think it was wrong? Do you think it was wrong? You were replying to a bit of the thread that states Corbyn is racist. I simply asked for proof. Since you don't seem to think he's racist after all, I guess that conversation with you is over. Yes I read the report ages ago. I can't remember the whole thing right now. But was Corbyn a failure as a leader? Yes, demonstrably. It would be daft of anyone to say Corbyn is racist. He definitely is not. However, even though you read the report some time ago, you must remember concluding whether you thought it was right or not of Starmer to suspend Corbyn. It was a major move after all. Do you think it was right? I can't remember all the details, so I can't comment accurately. And I try to be accurate & factual. Some might say you sound as unconvincing as a third rate politician. Smearing an Iraqi refugee is not being accurate and factual. Have a refresh on the report and let us know " I can't be bothered to read it all again, just to make you happy. Believe whatever you want. Corrbyn was a failure as a leader, though. Certainly. | |||
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"Can we please stick to serious suggestions rather than the useless twat and racist Putin fanboy Jeremy Corbyn? Thanks. Pretty sure I said this before, but I'll say it again. It's the Tory party that's awash with dirty Russian money. Also, Johnson stuck Lebedev in the lords. Also, I'm pretty sure Corbyn was condemning Putin long before most people started condemning him. Also, Corbyn's been an antiracist for decades. The only bit of your statement that can stand up at all is that Corbyn was useless in the sense he clearly failed to get elected as PM. But when people believed so many smears about him, is that a surprise? Jews don't matter I guess They do indeed matter but I am sure you are well aware that there are Jews of all political persuasions and that for all the liberty and freedom that say gay people have in Israel, there are a lot of Palestinians who have suffered at Israeli hands. I don’t think it’s about colour or creed, it’s more about people, and so the fact that Corbyn has spent his life engaging with down trodden people and that this has exposed some of the Jewish peoples less likeable behaviours does not make him anti-Jewish per se Nah, he's a useless racist twat. You should read the EHRC report. Corbyn campaigned against racism his whole life. I did ask you earlier in the thread what Corbyn has ever said or written that was racist. Still waiting on a reply that's actually factual... Just like we're all waiting for you to provide evidence that Zahawi has a 'taxing problem' after his HMRC 'investigation' etc etc Corbyn was rightly suspended from the Labour Party after the damming ECHR report into anti -semitism. Zahawi still Chairman of the Conservative Party As I said, what's Corbyn ever said or written that was racist? It should be easy to provide examples if he's such a terrible racist. Strange little man. Racist? Who would think that? Not me of course. I'd never think such a thing. But as regards being suspended by Keir Starmer from the Labour Party, having read the ECHR report into anti-semitism, this was the right decision Have you read the report? It's easily available online. Which parts do you disagree with? Have you taken up the suspension with Keir if you think it was wrong? Do you think it was wrong? You were replying to a bit of the thread that states Corbyn is racist. I simply asked for proof. Since you don't seem to think he's racist after all, I guess that conversation with you is over. Yes I read the report ages ago. I can't remember the whole thing right now. But was Corbyn a failure as a leader? Yes, demonstrably. It would be daft of anyone to say Corbyn is racist. He definitely is not. However, even though you read the report some time ago, you must remember concluding whether you thought it was right or not of Starmer to suspend Corbyn. It was a major move after all. Do you think it was right? I can't remember all the details, so I can't comment accurately. And I try to be accurate & factual. Some might say you sound as unconvincing as a third rate politician. Smearing an Iraqi refugee is not being accurate and factual. Have a refresh on the report and let us know I can't be bothered to read it all again, just to make you happy. Believe whatever you want. Corrbyn was a failure as a leader, though. Certainly. " Such a shame you won't revisit it. It wouldn't take you long to reacquaint yourself with its findings. I'm sure as a liberal, open-minded chap, you'd quickly find the report advised there were multiple areas where the party's approach and leadership in tackling anti-Semitism was insufficient. Further, there were three clear breaches of the 2010 Equality Act including political interference by Corbyn's office on 23 occasions when dealing with complaints of anti-Semitism. Thankfully, Labour is acting on the damning report having accepted it in full and is now doing everything it can to combat the scourge of antisemitism once and for all and it's an area I give Starmer full credit for. Starmer said the report’s findings signalled “a day of shame for the Labour Party”. Hours later, he suspended Corbyn from the Labour party. Corbyn made a reactionary statement to the EHRC’s report, stating that antisemitism in the Labour party was “overstated”. Do you agree on this with Starmer or Corbyn? | |||
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"Can we please stick to serious suggestions rather than the useless twat and racist Putin fanboy Jeremy Corbyn? Thanks. Pretty sure I said this before, but I'll say it again. It's the Tory party that's awash with dirty Russian money. Also, Johnson stuck Lebedev in the lords. Also, I'm pretty sure Corbyn was condemning Putin long before most people started condemning him. Also, Corbyn's been an antiracist for decades. The only bit of your statement that can stand up at all is that Corbyn was useless in the sense he clearly failed to get elected as PM. But when people believed so many smears about him, is that a surprise? Jews don't matter I guess They do indeed matter but I am sure you are well aware that there are Jews of all political persuasions and that for all the liberty and freedom that say gay people have in Israel, there are a lot of Palestinians who have suffered at Israeli hands. I don’t think it’s about colour or creed, it’s more about people, and so the fact that Corbyn has spent his life engaging with down trodden people and that this has exposed some of the Jewish peoples less likeable behaviours does not make him anti-Jewish per se Nah, he's a useless racist twat. You should read the EHRC report. Corbyn campaigned against racism his whole life. I did ask you earlier in the thread what Corbyn has ever said or written that was racist. Still waiting on a reply that's actually factual... Just like we're all waiting for you to provide evidence that Zahawi has a 'taxing problem' after his HMRC 'investigation' etc etc Corbyn was rightly suspended from the Labour Party after the damming ECHR report into anti -semitism. Zahawi still Chairman of the Conservative Party As I said, what's Corbyn ever said or written that was racist? It should be easy to provide examples if he's such a terrible racist. Strange little man. Racist? Who would think that? Not me of course. I'd never think such a thing. But as regards being suspended by Keir Starmer from the Labour Party, having read the ECHR report into anti-semitism, this was the right decision Have you read the report? It's easily available online. Which parts do you disagree with? Have you taken up the suspension with Keir if you think it was wrong? Do you think it was wrong? You were replying to a bit of the thread that states Corbyn is racist. I simply asked for proof. Since you don't seem to think he's racist after all, I guess that conversation with you is over. Yes I read the report ages ago. I can't remember the whole thing right now. But was Corbyn a failure as a leader? Yes, demonstrably. It would be daft of anyone to say Corbyn is racist. He definitely is not. However, even though you read the report some time ago, you must remember concluding whether you thought it was right or not of Starmer to suspend Corbyn. It was a major move after all. Do you think it was right? I can't remember all the details, so I can't comment accurately. And I try to be accurate & factual. Some might say you sound as unconvincing as a third rate politician. Smearing an Iraqi refugee is not being accurate and factual. Have a refresh on the report and let us know I can't be bothered to read it all again, just to make you happy. Believe whatever you want. Corrbyn was a failure as a leader, though. Certainly. Such a shame you won't revisit it. It wouldn't take you long to reacquaint yourself with its findings. I'm sure as a liberal, open-minded chap, you'd quickly find the report advised there were multiple areas where the party's approach and leadership in tackling anti-Semitism was insufficient. Further, there were three clear breaches of the 2010 Equality Act including political interference by Corbyn's office on 23 occasions when dealing with complaints of anti-Semitism. Thankfully, Labour is acting on the damning report having accepted it in full and is now doing everything it can to combat the scourge of antisemitism once and for all and it's an area I give Starmer full credit for. Starmer said the report’s findings signalled “a day of shame for the Labour Party”. Hours later, he suspended Corbyn from the Labour party. Corbyn made a reactionary statement to the EHRC’s report, stating that antisemitism in the Labour party was “overstated”. Do you agree on this with Starmer or Corbyn? " Obviously Starmer is right which is why he will soon be PM and the useless racist twat Corbyn never was, thanks to the sensible non racist Labour voters who abandoned him in 2019. | |||
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"Can we please stick to serious suggestions rather than the useless twat and racist Putin fanboy Jeremy Corbyn? Thanks. Pretty sure I said this before, but I'll say it again. It's the Tory party that's awash with dirty Russian money. Also, Johnson stuck Lebedev in the lords. Also, I'm pretty sure Corbyn was condemning Putin long before most people started condemning him. Also, Corbyn's been an antiracist for decades. The only bit of your statement that can stand up at all is that Corbyn was useless in the sense he clearly failed to get elected as PM. But when people believed so many smears about him, is that a surprise? Jews don't matter I guess They do indeed matter but I am sure you are well aware that there are Jews of all political persuasions and that for all the liberty and freedom that say gay people have in Israel, there are a lot of Palestinians who have suffered at Israeli hands. I don’t think it’s about colour or creed, it’s more about people, and so the fact that Corbyn has spent his life engaging with down trodden people and that this has exposed some of the Jewish peoples less likeable behaviours does not make him anti-Jewish per se Nah, he's a useless racist twat. You should read the EHRC report. Corbyn campaigned against racism his whole life. I did ask you earlier in the thread what Corbyn has ever said or written that was racist. Still waiting on a reply that's actually factual... Just like we're all waiting for you to provide evidence that Zahawi has a 'taxing problem' after his HMRC 'investigation' etc etc Corbyn was rightly suspended from the Labour Party after the damming ECHR report into anti -semitism. Zahawi still Chairman of the Conservative Party As I said, what's Corbyn ever said or written that was racist? It should be easy to provide examples if he's such a terrible racist. Strange little man. Racist? Who would think that? Not me of course. I'd never think such a thing. But as regards being suspended by Keir Starmer from the Labour Party, having read the ECHR report into anti-semitism, this was the right decision Have you read the report? It's easily available online. Which parts do you disagree with? Have you taken up the suspension with Keir if you think it was wrong? Do you think it was wrong? You were replying to a bit of the thread that states Corbyn is racist. I simply asked for proof. Since you don't seem to think he's racist after all, I guess that conversation with you is over. Yes I read the report ages ago. I can't remember the whole thing right now. But was Corbyn a failure as a leader? Yes, demonstrably. It would be daft of anyone to say Corbyn is racist. He definitely is not. However, even though you read the report some time ago, you must remember concluding whether you thought it was right or not of Starmer to suspend Corbyn. It was a major move after all. Do you think it was right? I can't remember all the details, so I can't comment accurately. And I try to be accurate & factual. Some might say you sound as unconvincing as a third rate politician. Smearing an Iraqi refugee is not being accurate and factual. Have a refresh on the report and let us know I can't be bothered to read it all again, just to make you happy. Believe whatever you want. Corrbyn was a failure as a leader, though. Certainly. Such a shame you won't revisit it. It wouldn't take you long to reacquaint yourself with its findings. I'm sure as a liberal, open-minded chap, you'd quickly find the report advised there were multiple areas where the party's approach and leadership in tackling anti-Semitism was insufficient. Further, there were three clear breaches of the 2010 Equality Act including political interference by Corbyn's office on 23 occasions when dealing with complaints of anti-Semitism. Thankfully, Labour is acting on the damning report having accepted it in full and is now doing everything it can to combat the scourge of antisemitism once and for all and it's an area I give Starmer full credit for. Starmer said the report’s findings signalled “a day of shame for the Labour Party”. Hours later, he suspended Corbyn from the Labour party. Corbyn made a reactionary statement to the EHRC’s report, stating that antisemitism in the Labour party was “overstated”. Do you agree on this with Starmer or Corbyn? Obviously Starmer is right which is why he will soon be PM and the useless racist twat Corbyn never was, thanks to the sensible non racist Labour voters who abandoned him in 2019." So how do you feel about Palestinians being oppressed by the Israeli’s? Is it just easier to call Corbyn a racist twat than confront the issue? He might not be your flavour politically but then Farage isn’t mine and although he covers it well he definitely is racist | |||
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"Can we please stick to serious suggestions rather than the useless twat and racist Putin fanboy Jeremy Corbyn? Thanks. Pretty sure I said this before, but I'll say it again. It's the Tory party that's awash with dirty Russian money. Also, Johnson stuck Lebedev in the lords. Also, I'm pretty sure Corbyn was condemning Putin long before most people started condemning him. Also, Corbyn's been an antiracist for decades. The only bit of your statement that can stand up at all is that Corbyn was useless in the sense he clearly failed to get elected as PM. But when people believed so many smears about him, is that a surprise? Jews don't matter I guess They do indeed matter but I am sure you are well aware that there are Jews of all political persuasions and that for all the liberty and freedom that say gay people have in Israel, there are a lot of Palestinians who have suffered at Israeli hands. I don’t think it’s about colour or creed, it’s more about people, and so the fact that Corbyn has spent his life engaging with down trodden people and that this has exposed some of the Jewish peoples less likeable behaviours does not make him anti-Jewish per se Nah, he's a useless racist twat. You should read the EHRC report. Corbyn campaigned against racism his whole life. I did ask you earlier in the thread what Corbyn has ever said or written that was racist. Still waiting on a reply that's actually factual... Just like we're all waiting for you to provide evidence that Zahawi has a 'taxing problem' after his HMRC 'investigation' etc etc Corbyn was rightly suspended from the Labour Party after the damming ECHR report into anti -semitism. Zahawi still Chairman of the Conservative Party As I said, what's Corbyn ever said or written that was racist? It should be easy to provide examples if he's such a terrible racist. Strange little man. Racist? Who would think that? Not me of course. I'd never think such a thing. But as regards being suspended by Keir Starmer from the Labour Party, having read the ECHR report into anti-semitism, this was the right decision Have you read the report? It's easily available online. Which parts do you disagree with? Have you taken up the suspension with Keir if you think it was wrong? Do you think it was wrong? You were replying to a bit of the thread that states Corbyn is racist. I simply asked for proof. Since you don't seem to think he's racist after all, I guess that conversation with you is over. Yes I read the report ages ago. I can't remember the whole thing right now. But was Corbyn a failure as a leader? Yes, demonstrably. It would be daft of anyone to say Corbyn is racist. He definitely is not. However, even though you read the report some time ago, you must remember concluding whether you thought it was right or not of Starmer to suspend Corbyn. It was a major move after all. Do you think it was right? I can't remember all the details, so I can't comment accurately. And I try to be accurate & factual. Some might say you sound as unconvincing as a third rate politician. Smearing an Iraqi refugee is not being accurate and factual. Have a refresh on the report and let us know I can't be bothered to read it all again, just to make you happy. Believe whatever you want. Corrbyn was a failure as a leader, though. Certainly. Such a shame you won't revisit it. It wouldn't take you long to reacquaint yourself with its findings. I'm sure as a liberal, open-minded chap, you'd quickly find the report advised there were multiple areas where the party's approach and leadership in tackling anti-Semitism was insufficient. Further, there were three clear breaches of the 2010 Equality Act including political interference by Corbyn's office on 23 occasions when dealing with complaints of anti-Semitism. Thankfully, Labour is acting on the damning report having accepted it in full and is now doing everything it can to combat the scourge of antisemitism once and for all and it's an area I give Starmer full credit for. Starmer said the report’s findings signalled “a day of shame for the Labour Party”. Hours later, he suspended Corbyn from the Labour party. Corbyn made a reactionary statement to the EHRC’s report, stating that antisemitism in the Labour party was “overstated”. Do you agree on this with Starmer or Corbyn? Obviously Starmer is right which is why he will soon be PM and the useless racist twat Corbyn never was, thanks to the sensible non racist Labour voters who abandoned him in 2019." This was an interesting thread until you starting this 'Corbyn is racist' utter bullshit. | |||
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"https://www.reddit.com/r/LabourUK/comments/rmx9dw/jeremy_corbyn_likes_tweet_in_support_of_suspended/ https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/artist-mear-one-kalen-ockerman-admits-he-was-warned-over-antisemitic-mural-vh7262sx9 https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-corbyns-claim-that-labour-antisemitism-numbers-are-exaggerated At some point people will have to question, if Corbyn himself is not antisemitic, why does he do these things? " The mural was a really awful thing and reflects the kind of bullshit that “artists”with a little knowledge but not enough sense are willing to splash out for notoriety. Corbyn should have been more aware of what he was doing and how that would be seen by the general public and that’s what made him unfit to lead. Just sticking to your beliefs is admirable but has nothing to do with modern day politics as Starmer is amply demonstrating. Corbyn has been vilified by the right wing press and put under a huge amount of pressure by them but unlike Boris he didn’t know how to play their game and so he has been cast as the devil incarnate. Who gains from portraying him like this? Follow the money and it seems pretty obvious! | |||
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"Why do you think he didn't know better? The supposed anti-racist of however long didn't know antisemitism when he saw it? Really? You've also chosen not to mention any of the other links as per my last post, why? The right-wing press will always go after Labour leaders, you can trace it right the way back. Strongly advise reading up on what Wilson faced. Simply having the gutter against you is not an excuse for being terrible." Medialens did a good case study on the smear campaign against Corbyn. The campaign was so effective, that people are still convinced he is racist, terrorist sympathiser etc. | |||
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"Seriously, respond to any one of the links I have posted. These are Corbyn's actions. He is, at best, remarkably naive when it comes to antisemitism. I vote Labour at every opportunity and it's part of my life. But the Corbyn years will, I hope, be the worst chapter. We can want renationalisation, expansion of social housing and a benevolent society. We can want this without defending the indefensible. " Thankfully Labour under Starmer has moved on from the Corbyn clown show. | |||
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"Why do you think he didn't know better? The supposed anti-racist of however long didn't know antisemitism when he saw it? Really? You've also chosen not to mention any of the other links as per my last post, why? The right-wing press will always go after Labour leaders, you can trace it right the way back. Strongly advise reading up on what Wilson faced. Simply having the gutter against you is not an excuse for being terrible. Medialens did a good case study on the smear campaign against Corbyn. The campaign was so effective, that people are still convinced he is racist, terrorist sympathiser etc." There have been people ready to label any criticism of the actions of Israel as being anti-semitic. Or showing any sympathy for the Palestinians as being anti-semitic. Which is of course utter nonsense. | |||
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"At the time, I though he was a joke. But I actually think Ed Milliband might have been decent. He certainly couldn’t have been worse than Johnson, May, Truss or Sunak. " Likewise. I was annoyed at him back stabbing his brother as I thought at the time David was more credible and more likely to secure the centrist votes needed to win an election. However, Ed’s performances at PMQs etc over the last few years have been very impressive. If only he had not eaten a bacon sandwich! I mean what a rotter!!! | |||
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"At the time, I though he was a joke. But I actually think Ed Milliband might have been decent. He certainly couldn’t have been worse than Johnson, May, Truss or Sunak. Likewise. I was annoyed at him back stabbing his brother as I thought at the time David was more credible and more likely to secure the centrist votes needed to win an election. However, Ed’s performances at PMQs etc over the last few years have been very impressive. If only he had not eaten a bacon sandwich! I mean what a rotter!!! " The press tore him apart for that. And now we have fraud, tax evasion, lies, affairs… not a fucking whisper. Murdoch and the Barclay Brothers have absolutely ruined this country. | |||
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"What about Michael Portillo. I'm sure he would have got the trains sorted out. Man, that TV show with him going round on trains was the most boring thing I've seen in a long time. I actually think it quite interesting. I've seen him film it at Stratford Station as well." I enjoy his train programme also think he would of made good PM | |||
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"David Milliband. Sir Alex Ferguson. Miliband???? David Davis. " Yes ..if only because he called Harriet Harman a stupid cow ! | |||
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"Mick lynch" Mick Lynch isn't flavour of the month any more, now that he's being held hostage by one of his branches. He might not be the popular choice. | |||
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"I would say Jackie Weaver. She was the one that kicked a councilor out of a zoom meeting, when 'she had no right to do that'" But she did have no right to do that, and was subsequently made to apologise to the two odious counselors involved. Do we really want a PM that breaks the rules whenever she feels like it? | |||
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"I would say Jackie Weaver. She was the one that kicked a councilor out of a zoom meeting, when 'she had no right to do that' But she did have no right to do that, and was subsequently made to apologise to the two odious counselors involved. Do we really want a PM that breaks the rules whenever she feels like it?" People seem to like PMs who break the rules. | |||
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"ENOCH POWELL" This will get the lefties going hahahaha... | |||
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"ENOCH POWELL This will get the lefties going hahahaha..." That is, of course, the main reason to do anything. | |||
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