FabSwingers.com forum: More good news FTSE 100 index beats rivals

By *ne Pass drilling OP Man
over a year ago

Northampton

Good news for ordinary working people with pension funds. Despite tough economic conditions the FTSE 100 ended up 1 % . Dow Jones down 9 % S and P down 19 % Nasqaq down 34 % , Frances Cac 40 down 10 % and Germans Dax 12. 4 % . This is in addition to dividend payouts being at an all time high . Any worker in a pension fund will be more than happy. We have beaten all the indices referred to.

Maybe some of the merchants of doom and gloom on here need to get out a little more and see what is happening in the real world. Speak to those who keep the wheels of Britain turning and the care workers who look after the vulnerable. Some are so busy looking for negative news they may not have time to do this .

Every day of the week the vulnerable and disabled are picking up brand new cars under the motability scheme funded by the government ( half a million cars on the scheme ). Become unemployed and your rent is paid for by the government.

We seem to ignore how well the government look after people which is funded by taxpayers and their hard work . Employers such as Lord Bamford and Tim Martin make substantial contributions via their psyrolls to help fund this . All this in addition to the businness rates which they pay. They are dedicated to helping ordinary working people.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

On the face of it, this looks good for UK plc.

However the FTSE returns are GBP, which has seen 10pc falls. This inflates FTSE returns.

But that is also good news for a gbp investor in other markets. So your pensioner isn't benefiting from uk plc outshooting the world, but sterling weakening. Truss has made anyone who cashes out today 10pc better off

Of course, gbp may strengthen and so those paper gains get wiped out.

And I'm sure all this you quite are making sure they aren't using tax loop holes to avoid tax. Because they are doing it for the people, not themselves.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

No one brutalises Conservative voters as savagely as Pat.

Where are the Tories, why don't you stand up for yourselves?

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
over a year ago

Hastings

"On the face of it, this looks good for UK plc.

However the FTSE returns are GBP, which has seen 10pc falls. This inflates FTSE returns.

Of course, gbp may strengthen and so those paper gains get wiped out.

And I'm sure all this you quite are making sure they aren't using tax loop holes to avoid tax. Because they are doing it for the people, not themselves.

If they are using tax loop holes good for them. If it was my business I'd do what I can to skip tax. Like any small business owner. I pay 19% on all profits and 7.5% on diverdens so 26.5%

Then over £50,500 33.75% on dividends so 52.75% so you reinvest over £50,500.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

"On the face of it, this looks good for UK plc.

However the FTSE returns are GBP, which has seen 10pc falls. This inflates FTSE returns.

Of course, gbp may strengthen and so those paper gains get wiped out.

And I'm sure all this you quite are making sure they aren't using tax loop holes to avoid tax. Because they are doing it for the people, not themselves.

If they are using tax loop holes good for them. If it was my business I'd do what I can to skip tax. Like any small business owner. I pay 19% on all profits and 7.5% on diverdens so 26.5%

Then over £50,500 33.75% on dividends so 52.75% so you reinvest over £50,500.

But you can see why people don't like policy makers, making policies that allow them and their pals to avoid paying taxes, meanwhile pointing the finger at normal people who do the same as them on a much smaller scale?

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
over a year ago

Hastings

"On the face of it, this looks good for UK plc.

However the FTSE returns are GBP, which has seen 10pc falls. This inflates FTSE returns.

Of course, gbp may strengthen and so those paper gains get wiped out.

And I'm sure all this you quite are making sure they aren't using tax loop holes to avoid tax. Because they are doing it for the people, not themselves.

10% on benefits for the poor.

So what would be fare for NHS and other government workers.

Train drivers and post don't directly work for government. So we could leave them to the strike forum.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"On the face of it, this looks good for UK plc.

However the FTSE returns are GBP, which has seen 10pc falls. This inflates FTSE returns.

Of course, gbp may strengthen and so those paper gains get wiped out.

And I'm sure all this you quite are making sure they aren't using tax loop holes to avoid tax. Because they are doing it for the people, not themselves.

If they are using tax loop holes good for them. If it was my business I'd do what I can to skip tax. Like any small business owner. I pay 19% on all profits and 7.5% on diverdens so 26.5%

Then over £50,500 33.75% on dividends so 52.75% so you reinvest over £50,500.

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that's all fine, but I'd not say you are dedicated to the people. I'd suggest you see tax is a necessary evil of increasing personal wealth.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"On the face of it, this looks good for UK plc.

However the FTSE returns are GBP, which has seen 10pc falls. This inflates FTSE returns.

Of course, gbp may strengthen and so those paper gains get wiped out.

And I'm sure all this you quite are making sure they aren't using tax loop holes to avoid tax. Because they are doing it for the people, not themselves.

10% on benefits for the poor.

So what would be fare for NHS and other government workers.

Train drivers and post don't directly work for government. So we could leave them to the strike forum."
you've quoted me but have no idea what your point is or how it's relevant to what I've said. Can you rephrase for me ?

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By *instonandLadyAstorCouple
over a year ago

Not where we seem to be...

"Good news for ordinary working people with pension funds. Despite tough economic conditions the FTSE 100 ended up 1 % . Dow Jones down 9 % S and P down 19 % Nasqaq down 34 % , Frances Cac 40 down 10 % and Germans Dax 12. 4 % . This is in addition to dividend payouts being at an all time high . Any worker in a pension fund will be more than happy. We have beaten all the indices referred to.

"Become unemployed and your rent is paid for by the government......"

This isn't entirely true. In most cases for a single person with no dependants they would only receive what the equivalent rent for a one bedroom dwelling is.

If you live in a property with 2 or more bedrooms and the rent is more than that of a one bedroom property...... you're fucked. They don't pick up the difference.

Winston

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
over a year ago

Hastings

"On the face of it, this looks good for UK plc.

However the FTSE returns are GBP, which has seen 10pc falls. This inflates FTSE returns.

Of course, gbp may strengthen and so those paper gains get wiped out.

And I'm sure all this you quite are making sure they aren't using tax loop holes to avoid tax. Because they are doing it for the people, not themselves.

10% on benefits for the poor.

So what would be fare for NHS and other government workers.

Train drivers and post don't directly work for government. So we could leave them to the strike forum.you've quoted me but have no idea what your point is or how it's relevant to what I've said. Can you rephrase for me ?"

Was asking the room what would you class as a fair pay rise for NHS and government workers.

7.5% / year would seem close so 14% over 2 years but government have said not double figgers.

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By *I TwoCouple
over a year ago

PDI 12-26th Nov 24

FTSE up 1% over what period ?

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

Just for info.

66% of shares registered in the U.K. are foreign owned

82% of revenues in the FTSE 100 are generated overseas.

Just 1.7 % of the total shares are owned by pension funds directly . Again mostly foreign owned .

The shares are traded in the U.K. but the revenues and benefits are mostly gained by foreign interests .

Being a trading house doesn’t always generate benefits on any great scale . Although the traders in London do well on the churn.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We truly are blessed to be living in a paradise call Great Britain. Keep telling them Pat.

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By *teveuk77Man
over a year ago

"Just for info.

66% of shares registered in the U.K. are foreign owned

82% of revenues in the FTSE 100 are generated overseas.

Just 1.7 % of the total shares are owned by pension funds directly . Again mostly foreign owned .

The shares are traded in the U.K. but the revenues and benefits are mostly gained by foreign interests .

Being a trading house doesn’t always generate benefits on any great scale . Although the traders in London do well on the churn.

You beat me to it. There seems to be a worrying misunderstanding about the FTSE from those in denial about how messed up this country...

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By *heshbifellaMan
over a year ago

Nantwich

More good news - the FTSE 100 continues its winning streak today boosted by good gains in the US on Friday and hopes that the reopening in China will provide a boost to global economic growth. 4 year high at over 7700

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"More good news - the FTSE 100 continues its winning streak today boosted by good gains in the US on Friday and hopes that the reopening in China will provide a boost to global economic growth. 4 year high at over 7700

Inflation is at a 40 year high

Living standards are at their lowest for 40 years

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yep inflation is always great news for the assets holders. If you own property and stocks which I do, its great. But if your in rental and no stock its not something to be positive about..

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By *eroy1000Man
over a year ago

milton keynes

You've been told before, if it goes up then its irrelevant due to previously mentioned reasons. If it goes down, then it's relevant and shows how bad things are

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You've been told before, if it goes up then its irrelevant due to previously mentioned reasons. If it goes down, then it's relevant and shows how bad things are"

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By *heshbifellaMan
over a year ago

Nantwich

You've been told before, if it goes up then its irrelevant due to previously mentioned reasons. If it goes down, then it's relevant and shows how bad things are"

Oh, I must sack my IFA as he never mentioned that the footsie going up or down was always unquestionably bad news. How fortunate we are to have you on board with your incisive investment analysis

I must pass on your message to Michael Hewson, Chief Market Analyst at CMC Markets, who clearly knows nothing when he says the resilience of the FTSE100 helps to reinforce optimism that the economy will avoid a hard landing type of recession over the next few months and that the banks are doing a great job reining in inflation.

You must see that this is being reflected in the performance of the FTSE 100 which is once again performing very well, despite the horrific exogenous events of covid and Ukraine.

Unemployment has never been lower and employment never been higher. We're looking at 2% inflation next year and much better mortgage deals. Meantime, savers can get some decent deals.

We left the EU on January 31 2020, fulfilling the promise to the British people. There will be a new points-based immigration system, taking back control of our borders while continuing to attract the brightest and best to the UK.

Record investment in the free NHS. More money for Defence, Education, Transport, HS2 etc and ambitious climate change action. Super fast vaccination programme meant reopening the economy earlier than Europe and earlier than Starmer wanted.

Is this what you mean by it "shows how bad things are"?

I've told you before back in 2010, the Conservatives inherited a country that was on the road to becoming an economic basket case. Public spending has grown each and every year since 2010. True, the rate of growth may have been modest in some years, but we know why. The former Labour chief secretary to the Treasury, Liam Byrne, explained when he confirmed on leaving office, saying: “I’m afraid there is no money.”

Of course, the turbulent Truss tenure was disappointing, but the damage has been repaired and as a country we are on the up. Record numbers of people try to get here from peaceful France, safe Albania and elsewhere. Far fewer people emigrate from here, than immigrate here. Our population is up by 10 million in 20 years. It makes us wonderfully diverse.

Conservatives can claim to be the world’s oldest and most successful political party. That's no accident.

However, Labour’s plans and reckless command and control policies would wreck things. The choice will be clear in 24/25: continue on a stable, open and increasingly prosperous path or frankly risk it with a virtue-signalling head rush, typified by Starmer unable to define 'woman', that will end in economic ruin.

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By *heshbifellaMan
over a year ago

Nantwich

Yep inflation is always great news for the assets holders. If you own property and stocks which I do, its great. But if your in rental and no stock its not something to be positive about.."

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By *heshbifellaMan
over a year ago

Nantwich

Inflation is at a 40 year high

Living standards are at their lowest for 40 years "

Inflation is a global issue but will fall

Britain stepped out of a global pandemic, and straight into a cost of living crisis caused by Putin invading Ukraine. How are either of these exogenous events the fault of the Tories?

You do understand the meaning of 'exogenous'?

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

Inflation is at a 40 year high

Living standards are at their lowest for 40 years

Inflation is a global issue but will fall

Britain stepped out of a global pandemic, and straight into a cost of living crisis caused by Putin invading Ukraine. How are either of these exogenous events the fault of the Tories?

You do understand the meaning of 'exogenous'?

Don't forget to blame Corbyn and the EU for a full house.

It's definitely everyone else's fault, absolutely nothing to do with the government, sure they don't control anything, laws, policy, the response to covid, etc. Nothing.

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By *eroy1000Man
over a year ago

milton keynes

You've been told before, if it goes up then its irrelevant due to previously mentioned reasons. If it goes down, then it's relevant and shows how bad things are

Oh, I must sack my IFA as he never mentioned that the footsie going up or down was always unquestionably bad news. How fortunate we are to have you on board with your incisive investment analysis

You must see that this is being reflected in the performance of the FTSE 100 which is once again performing very well, despite the horrific exogenous events of covid and Ukraine.

Unemployment has never been lower and employment never been higher. We're looking at 2% inflation next year and much better mortgage deals. Meantime, savers can get some decent deals.

Is this what you mean by it "shows how bad things are"?

Conservatives can claim to be the world’s oldest and most successful political party. That's no accident.

You clearly missed my poor attempt at the irony seen sometimes on here. I was just showing that (on here) it does not matter if it goes up or down as a reason will be found to explain it as bad news.

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

You've been told before, if it goes up then its irrelevant due to previously mentioned reasons. If it goes down, then it's relevant and shows how bad things are

Oh, I must sack my IFA as he never mentioned that the footsie going up or down was always unquestionably bad news. How fortunate we are to have you on board with your incisive investment analysis

You must see that this is being reflected in the performance of the FTSE 100 which is once again performing very well, despite the horrific exogenous events of covid and Ukraine.

Unemployment has never been lower and employment never been higher. We're looking at 2% inflation next year and much better mortgage deals. Meantime, savers can get some decent deals.

Is this what you mean by it "shows how bad things are"?

Conservatives can claim to be the world’s oldest and most successful political party. That's no accident.

You clearly missed my poor attempt at the irony seen sometimes on here. I was just showing that (on here) it does not matter if it goes up or down as a reason will be found to explain it as bad news."

It is good news for people invested in the FTSE 100.

What, I think, was being pointed out is that this index is not representative of the health of the UK economy, which is what the OP is implying.

Equally, with respect to what you have stated, many posters have sought to imply, correctly or not, that the poor performance of the UK economy through inflation and energy prices was out of the Government's control but the 2008 global crash was somehow not.

You can have a look at this Shroeders article on FTSE 100 performance:

'How the FTSE 100 has changed over 33 years'

"Through mergers, failures, promotions, demotions, new listings and globalisation the FTSE 100 has evolved from a UK-centric index to one that represents the fortunes of the global economy.

Those looking for exposure to the UK by investing in the FTSE 100 must remember it is no longer a close barometer of the country’s corporate health."

"The inner ring in this chart shows that the vast majority of companies – 97% - are domiciled or based in the UK. But only 29% of revenues are made here."

"A better reflection of the UK economy would be the FTSE 250. Companies listed on the 250 generate 55% of their revenues in the UK, according to data from Factset.

This matters for two reasons: investing in the FTSE 100 does not necessarily mean you’re investing in the UK, which is important to understand if you’re trying to build a balanced portfolio; it also leaves FTSE 100 investments at the mercy of currency swings. For example, a strong dollar can be good for UK companies that make their money in dollars. Once the dollar revenues are converted into local currency it would be worth more."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Inflation is at a 40 year high

Living standards are at their lowest for 40 years

Inflation is a global issue but will fall

Britain stepped out of a global pandemic, and straight into a cost of living crisis caused by Putin invading Ukraine. How are either of these exogenous events the fault of the Tories?

You do understand the meaning of 'exogenous'?

Ah, but Britain have had the Tory party in charge for 12 years and now have the amazing benefits of Brexit, so why are we in such a shit state ?

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By *heshbifellaMan
over a year ago

Nantwich

Inflation is at a 40 year high

Living standards are at their lowest for 40 years

Inflation is a global issue but will fall

Britain stepped out of a global pandemic, and straight into a cost of living crisis caused by Putin invading Ukraine. How are either of these exogenous events the fault of the Tories?

You do understand the meaning of 'exogenous'?

Ah, but Britain have had the Tory party in charge for 12 years and now have the amazing benefits of Brexit, so why are we in such a shit state ? "

Labour left the Treasury in an absolute mess in 2010, necessitating Austerity.

Putin partially invaded Ukraine in 2014.

COVID-19 appeared in 2019.

Putin fully invaded Ukraine in 2022.

Immensely damaging exogenous global events. Keep up.

Your implied saviour, Sick Ear Starmer, to the above events (how he'll pull it off, nobody knows) made it worse with his undemocratic attempts to thwart our exit from the EU from 2016 to 2020.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Inflation is at a 40 year high

Living standards are at their lowest for 40 years

Inflation is a global issue but will fall

Britain stepped out of a global pandemic, and straight into a cost of living crisis caused by Putin invading Ukraine. How are either of these exogenous events the fault of the Tories?

You do understand the meaning of 'exogenous'?

Ah, but Britain have had the Tory party in charge for 12 years and now have the amazing benefits of Brexit, so why are we in such a shit state ?

Labour left the Treasury in an absolute mess in 2010, necessitating Austerity.

Putin partially invaded Ukraine in 2014.

COVID-19 appeared in 2019.

Putin fully invaded Ukraine in 2022.

Immensely damaging exogenous global events. Keep up.

Your implied saviour, Sick Ear Starmer, to the above events (how he'll pull it off, nobody knows) made it worse with his undemocratic attempts to thwart our exit from the EU from 2016 to 2020.

But but but, we have left the EU, we have Brexit and all it’s advantages combined with 12 years of Tory rule we should be riding the quest of a wave, sunlit uplands, the reality, it’s worse than in 2010. Btw, I voted Lib dems at the last 2 elections, and will probably vote green at the next, I don’t think SKS is a ‘saviour’ bit it’s time for a change, the tories have fucked the county and they need to fuck off

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

Inflation is at a 40 year high

Living standards are at their lowest for 40 years

Inflation is a global issue but will fall

Britain stepped out of a global pandemic, and straight into a cost of living crisis caused by Putin invading Ukraine. How are either of these exogenous events the fault of the Tories?

You do understand the meaning of 'exogenous'?

Ah, but Britain have had the Tory party in charge for 12 years and now have the amazing benefits of Brexit, so why are we in such a shit state ?

Labour left the Treasury in an absolute mess in 2010, necessitating Austerity.

Putin partially invaded Ukraine in 2014.

COVID-19 appeared in 2019.

Putin fully invaded Ukraine in 2022.

Immensely damaging exogenous global events. Keep up.

Your implied saviour, Sick Ear Starmer, to the above events (how he'll pull it off, nobody knows) made it worse with his undemocratic attempts to thwart our exit from the EU from 2016 to 2020.

I know this is a pisstake post. But there are Daily Mail readers and the like who actually think like this.

Unbelievable as it may seem.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Inflation is at a 40 year high

Living standards are at their lowest for 40 years

Inflation is a global issue but will fall

Britain stepped out of a global pandemic, and straight into a cost of living crisis caused by Putin invading Ukraine. How are either of these exogenous events the fault of the Tories?

You do understand the meaning of 'exogenous'?

Ah, but Britain have had the Tory party in charge for 12 years and now have the amazing benefits of Brexit, so why are we in such a shit state ?

Labour left the Treasury in an absolute mess in 2010, necessitating Austerity.

Putin partially invaded Ukraine in 2014.

COVID-19 appeared in 2019.

Putin fully invaded Ukraine in 2022.

Immensely damaging exogenous global events. Keep up.

Your implied saviour, Sick Ear Starmer, to the above events (how he'll pull it off, nobody knows) made it worse with his undemocratic attempts to thwart our exit from the EU from 2016 to 2020.

I know this is a pisstake post. But there are Daily Mail readers and the like who actually think like this.

Unbelievable as it may seem. "

It is comedy gold, especially the part where he tries to place some of the blame on SKS for the mess we are in

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By *eroy1000Man
over a year ago

milton keynes

You've been told before, if it goes up then its irrelevant due to previously mentioned reasons. If it goes down, then it's relevant and shows how bad things are

Oh, I must sack my IFA as he never mentioned that the footsie going up or down was always unquestionably bad news. How fortunate we are to have you on board with your incisive investment analysis

You must see that this is being reflected in the performance of the FTSE 100 which is once again performing very well, despite the horrific exogenous events of covid and Ukraine.

Unemployment has never been lower and employment never been higher. We're looking at 2% inflation next year and much better mortgage deals. Meantime, savers can get some decent deals.

Is this what you mean by it "shows how bad things are"?

Conservatives can claim to be the world’s oldest and most successful political party. That's no accident.

See what I mean. Did not take long

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By *heshbifellaMan
over a year ago

Nantwich

Inflation is at a 40 year high

Living standards are at their lowest for 40 years

Inflation is a global issue but will fall

Britain stepped out of a global pandemic, and straight into a cost of living crisis caused by Putin invading Ukraine. How are either of these exogenous events the fault of the Tories?

You do understand the meaning of 'exogenous'?

Ah, but Britain have had the Tory party in charge for 12 years and now have the amazing benefits of Brexit, so why are we in such a shit state ?

Labour left the Treasury in an absolute mess in 2010, necessitating Austerity.

Putin partially invaded Ukraine in 2014.

COVID-19 appeared in 2019.

Putin fully invaded Ukraine in 2022.

Immensely damaging exogenous global events. Keep up.

Your implied saviour, Sick Ear Starmer, to the above events (how he'll pull it off, nobody knows) made it worse with his undemocratic attempts to thwart our exit from the EU from 2016 to 2020.

What is 'quest of a wave'?

Please don't say 'to get to the shore'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Inflation is at a 40 year high

Living standards are at their lowest for 40 years

Inflation is a global issue but will fall

Britain stepped out of a global pandemic, and straight into a cost of living crisis caused by Putin invading Ukraine. How are either of these exogenous events the fault of the Tories?

You do understand the meaning of 'exogenous'?

Ah, but Britain have had the Tory party in charge for 12 years and now have the amazing benefits of Brexit, so why are we in such a shit state ?

Labour left the Treasury in an absolute mess in 2010, necessitating Austerity.

Putin partially invaded Ukraine in 2014.

COVID-19 appeared in 2019.

Putin fully invaded Ukraine in 2022.

Immensely damaging exogenous global events. Keep up.

Your implied saviour, Sick Ear Starmer, to the above events (how he'll pull it off, nobody knows) made it worse with his undemocratic attempts to thwart our exit from the EU from 2016 to 2020.

What is 'quest of a wave'?

Please don't say 'to get to the shore'

It is a metaphor ,

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By *heshbifellaMan
over a year ago

Nantwich

Inflation is at a 40 year high

Living standards are at their lowest for 40 years

Inflation is a global issue but will fall

Britain stepped out of a global pandemic, and straight into a cost of living crisis caused by Putin invading Ukraine. How are either of these exogenous events the fault of the Tories?

You do understand the meaning of 'exogenous'?

Ah, but Britain have had the Tory party in charge for 12 years and now have the amazing benefits of Brexit, so why are we in such a shit state ?

Labour left the Treasury in an absolute mess in 2010, necessitating Austerity.

Putin partially invaded Ukraine in 2014.

COVID-19 appeared in 2019.

Putin fully invaded Ukraine in 2022.

Immensely damaging exogenous global events. Keep up.

Your implied saviour, Sick Ear Starmer, to the above events (how he'll pull it off, nobody knows) made it worse with his undemocratic attempts to thwart our exit from the EU from 2016 to 2020.

I know this is a pisstake post. But there are Daily Mail readers and the like who actually think like this.

Unbelievable as it may seem. "

And so which of those exogenous events are not reality?

How do you suppose Sick Ear will deal with the cost of living crisis caused by the invasion by Russia of Ukraine and the after effects of furlough /covid?

Do you really believe that he is committed to keeping Brexit safe after he spent 4 years trying to thwart it?

How do you feel about Labour and Sick Ear taking £380,000 from a wealthy donor who has also been funding Just Stop Oil and Extinction Rebellion (XR) organisations SKS condemns (ostensibly).?

Starmer wants second jobs for MPs banned but defends David Lammy earning £200,000?

Does any of this bother you or is just Tory bashing that brings you here regularly?

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By *heshbifellaMan
over a year ago

Nantwich

Inflation is at a 40 year high

Living standards are at their lowest for 40 years

Inflation is a global issue but will fall

Britain stepped out of a global pandemic, and straight into a cost of living crisis caused by Putin invading Ukraine. How are either of these exogenous events the fault of the Tories?

You do understand the meaning of 'exogenous'?

Ah, but Britain have had the Tory party in charge for 12 years and now have the amazing benefits of Brexit, so why are we in such a shit state ?

Labour left the Treasury in an absolute mess in 2010, necessitating Austerity.

Putin partially invaded Ukraine in 2014.

COVID-19 appeared in 2019.

Putin fully invaded Ukraine in 2022.

Immensely damaging exogenous global events. Keep up.

Your implied saviour, Sick Ear Starmer, to the above events (how he'll pull it off, nobody knows) made it worse with his undemocratic attempts to thwart our exit from the EU from 2016 to 2020.

What is 'quest of a wave'?

Please don't say 'to get to the shore'

It is a metaphor ,

It's not a metaphor

A metaphor is a figure of speech that, for rhetorical effect, directly refers to one thing by mentioning another.

Try 'Crest of a wave' and call it a saying and you'll have nailed it

You're welcome

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By *heshbifellaMan
over a year ago

Nantwich

Inflation is at a 40 year high

Living standards are at their lowest for 40 years

Inflation is a global issue but will fall

Britain stepped out of a global pandemic, and straight into a cost of living crisis caused by Putin invading Ukraine. How are either of these exogenous events the fault of the Tories?

You do understand the meaning of 'exogenous'?

Ah, but Britain have had the Tory party in charge for 12 years and now have the amazing benefits of Brexit, so why are we in such a shit state ?

Labour left the Treasury in an absolute mess in 2010, necessitating Austerity.

Putin partially invaded Ukraine in 2014.

COVID-19 appeared in 2019.

Putin fully invaded Ukraine in 2022.

Immensely damaging exogenous global events. Keep up.

Your implied saviour, Sick Ear Starmer, to the above events (how he'll pull it off, nobody knows) made it worse with his undemocratic attempts to thwart our exit from the EU from 2016 to 2020.

What is 'quest of a wave'?

Please don't say 'to get to the shore'

It is a metaphor ,

It's not a metaphor

A metaphor is a figure of speech that, for rhetorical effect, directly refers to one thing by mentioning another.

Try 'Crest of a wave' and call it a saying and you'll have nailed it

You're welcome

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over a year ago

Inflation is at a 40 year high

Living standards are at their lowest for 40 years

Inflation is a global issue but will fall

Britain stepped out of a global pandemic, and straight into a cost of living crisis caused by Putin invading Ukraine. How are either of these exogenous events the fault of the Tories?

You do understand the meaning of 'exogenous'?

Ah, but Britain have had the Tory party in charge for 12 years and now have the amazing benefits of Brexit, so why are we in such a shit state ?

Labour left the Treasury in an absolute mess in 2010, necessitating Austerity.

Putin partially invaded Ukraine in 2014.

COVID-19 appeared in 2019.

Putin fully invaded Ukraine in 2022.

Immensely damaging exogenous global events. Keep up.

Your implied saviour, Sick Ear Starmer, to the above events (how he'll pull it off, nobody knows) made it worse with his undemocratic attempts to thwart our exit from the EU from 2016 to 2020.

What is 'quest of a wave'?

Please don't say 'to get to the shore'

It is a metaphor ,

It's not a metaphor

A metaphor is a figure of speech that, for rhetorical effect, directly refers to one thing by mentioning another.

Try 'Crest of a wave' and call it a saying and you'll have nailed it

You're welcome

It is definitely a metaphor,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Inflation is at a 40 year high

Living standards are at their lowest for 40 years

Inflation is a global issue but will fall

Britain stepped out of a global pandemic, and straight into a cost of living crisis caused by Putin invading Ukraine. How are either of these exogenous events the fault of the Tories?

You do understand the meaning of 'exogenous'?

Ah, but Britain have had the Tory party in charge for 12 years and now have the amazing benefits of Brexit, so why are we in such a shit state ?

Labour left the Treasury in an absolute mess in 2010, necessitating Austerity.

Putin partially invaded Ukraine in 2014.

COVID-19 appeared in 2019.

Putin fully invaded Ukraine in 2022.

Immensely damaging exogenous global events. Keep up.

Your implied saviour, Sick Ear Starmer, to the above events (how he'll pull it off, nobody knows) made it worse with his undemocratic attempts to thwart our exit from the EU from 2016 to 2020.

I know this is a pisstake post. But there are Daily Mail readers and the like who actually think like this.

Unbelievable as it may seem.

And so which of those exogenous events are not reality?

How do you suppose Sick Ear will deal with the cost of living crisis caused by the invasion by Russia of Ukraine and the after effects of furlough /covid?

Do you really believe that he is committed to keeping Brexit safe after he spent 4 years trying to thwart it?

How do you feel about Labour and Sick Ear taking £380,000 from a wealthy donor who has also been funding Just Stop Oil and Extinction Rebellion (XR) organisations SKS condemns (ostensibly).?

Starmer wants second jobs for MPs banned but defends David Lammy earning £200,000?

Does any of this bother you or is just Tory bashing that brings you here regularly? "

The tories have fucked up Brexit and the country , it is time for them to fuck off ,

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By *heshbifellaMan
over a year ago

Nantwich

Inflation is at a 40 year high

Living standards are at their lowest for 40 years

Inflation is a global issue but will fall

Britain stepped out of a global pandemic, and straight into a cost of living crisis caused by Putin invading Ukraine. How are either of these exogenous events the fault of the Tories?

You do understand the meaning of 'exogenous'?

Ah, but Britain have had the Tory party in charge for 12 years and now have the amazing benefits of Brexit, so why are we in such a shit state ?

Labour left the Treasury in an absolute mess in 2010, necessitating Austerity.

Putin partially invaded Ukraine in 2014.

COVID-19 appeared in 2019.

Putin fully invaded Ukraine in 2022.

Immensely damaging exogenous global events. Keep up.

Your implied saviour, Sick Ear Starmer, to the above events (how he'll pull it off, nobody knows) made it worse with his undemocratic attempts to thwart our exit from the EU from 2016 to 2020.

What is 'quest of a wave'?

Please don't say 'to get to the shore'

It is a metaphor ,

It's not a metaphor

A metaphor is a figure of speech that, for rhetorical effect, directly refers to one thing by mentioning another.

Try 'Crest of a wave' and call it a saying and you'll have nailed it

You're welcome

It is definitely a metaphor,

'quest of a wave' most definitely is not a metaphor. They're just 4 words thrown together in a misguided attempt to get to 'crest of a wave' which is also not a metaphor

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

Inflation is at a 40 year high

Living standards are at their lowest for 40 years

Inflation is a global issue but will fall

Britain stepped out of a global pandemic, and straight into a cost of living crisis caused by Putin invading Ukraine. How are either of these exogenous events the fault of the Tories?

You do understand the meaning of 'exogenous'?

Ah, but Britain have had the Tory party in charge for 12 years and now have the amazing benefits of Brexit, so why are we in such a shit state ?

Labour left the Treasury in an absolute mess in 2010, necessitating Austerity.

Putin partially invaded Ukraine in 2014.

COVID-19 appeared in 2019.

Putin fully invaded Ukraine in 2022.

Immensely damaging exogenous global events. Keep up.

Your implied saviour, Sick Ear Starmer, to the above events (how he'll pull it off, nobody knows) made it worse with his undemocratic attempts to thwart our exit from the EU from 2016 to 2020.

I know this is a pisstake post. But there are Daily Mail readers and the like who actually think like this.

Unbelievable as it may seem.

And so which of those exogenous events are not reality?

Most of them

Covid happened, and Putin invited Ukraine, the rest is nonsense.

How do you suppose Sick Ear will deal with the cost of living crisis caused by the invasion by Russia of Ukraine and the after effects of furlough /covid?

Who is "suck ear" and what has this got to do with the disastrous 12 years of Tory rule?

Do you really believe that he is committed to keeping Brexit safe after he spent 4 years trying to thwart it?

You've made this up, no one tried to "thwart" brexit, so I don't know what good it would do for me to speculate what might happen in a scenario that is based on nonsense.

How do you feel about Labour and Sick Ear taking £380,000 from a wealthy donor who has also been funding Just Stop Oil and Extinction Rebellion (XR) organisations SKS condemns (ostensibly).?

Who is "sick ear", and what are you talking about? What has this got to do with anything?

Starmer wants second jobs for MPs banned but defends David Lammy earning £200,000?

Is this made up like most of your stuff, or for real. I'd it's for real, I'd need some details to comment, also, what's this got to do with anything?

Does any of this bother you or is just Tory bashing that brings you here regularly? "

Most of it is vague or made up, and even if it was true, why would this exempt the government from recieving criticism? That makes no sense what so ever.

I thought you were trolling Conservatives. But seems like you're for real. If you want me to answer the questions that aren't based on made up scenarios, I'm happy to, but it would help if you explained why they're relevant, and give the actual examples you want commenting on.

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By *heshbifellaMan
over a year ago

Nantwich

Inflation is at a 40 year high

Living standards are at their lowest for 40 years

Inflation is a global issue but will fall

Britain stepped out of a global pandemic, and straight into a cost of living crisis caused by Putin invading Ukraine. How are either of these exogenous events the fault of the Tories?

You do understand the meaning of 'exogenous'?

Ah, but Britain have had the Tory party in charge for 12 years and now have the amazing benefits of Brexit, so why are we in such a shit state ?

Labour left the Treasury in an absolute mess in 2010, necessitating Austerity.

Putin partially invaded Ukraine in 2014.

COVID-19 appeared in 2019.

Putin fully invaded Ukraine in 2022.

Immensely damaging exogenous global events. Keep up.

Your implied saviour, Sick Ear Starmer, to the above events (how he'll pull it off, nobody knows) made it worse with his undemocratic attempts to thwart our exit from the EU from 2016 to 2020.

I know this is a pisstake post. But there are Daily Mail readers and the like who actually think like this.

Unbelievable as it may seem.

And so which of those exogenous events are not reality?

How do you suppose Sick Ear will deal with the cost of living crisis caused by the invasion by Russia of Ukraine and the after effects of furlough /covid?

Do you really believe that he is committed to keeping Brexit safe after he spent 4 years trying to thwart it?

How do you feel about Labour and Sick Ear taking £380,000 from a wealthy donor who has also been funding Just Stop Oil and Extinction Rebellion (XR) organisations SKS condemns (ostensibly).?

Starmer wants second jobs for MPs banned but defends David Lammy earning £200,000?

Does any of this bother you or is just Tory bashing that brings you here regularly?

The tories have fucked up Brexit and the country , it is time for them to fuck off , "

You forgot your

which is your way of saying 'I'm right'

Even when you're hopelessly wrong riding the jest of a cave

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Inflation is at a 40 year high

Living standards are at their lowest for 40 years

Inflation is a global issue but will fall

Britain stepped out of a global pandemic, and straight into a cost of living crisis caused by Putin invading Ukraine. How are either of these exogenous events the fault of the Tories?

You do understand the meaning of 'exogenous'?

Ah, but Britain have had the Tory party in charge for 12 years and now have the amazing benefits of Brexit, so why are we in such a shit state ?

Labour left the Treasury in an absolute mess in 2010, necessitating Austerity.

Putin partially invaded Ukraine in 2014.

COVID-19 appeared in 2019.

Putin fully invaded Ukraine in 2022.

Immensely damaging exogenous global events. Keep up.

Your implied saviour, Sick Ear Starmer, to the above events (how he'll pull it off, nobody knows) made it worse with his undemocratic attempts to thwart our exit from the EU from 2016 to 2020.

What is 'quest of a wave'?

Please don't say 'to get to the shore'

It is a metaphor ,

It's not a metaphor

A metaphor is a figure of speech that, for rhetorical effect, directly refers to one thing by mentioning another.

Try 'Crest of a wave' and call it a saying and you'll have nailed it

You're welcome

It is definitely a metaphor,

'quest of a wave' most definitely is not a metaphor. They're just 4 words thrown together in a misguided attempt to get to 'crest of a wave' which is also not a metaphor

It is a metaphor, but your missing the point,