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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

France sending to new boats to the English channel to help with the illegal crossings brilliant till it said they will shadow them till on the English side till are navy picks them up wtf going on.

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By *mateur100Man
over a year ago

nr faversham


"France sending to new boats to the English channel to help with the illegal crossings brilliant till it said they will shadow them till on the English side till are navy picks them up wtf going on."

Ah but the UN has a list of safe countries from which asylum claims are generally dismissed. It includes Albania which should be good news for hoteliers throughout the country

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Two haha

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

Just read the story. They're rescue boats. That seems to be what's going on.

Isn't that a good thing?

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By *hybloke67Man
over a year ago

ROMFORD


"Just read the story. They're rescue boats. That seems to be what's going on.

Isn't that a good thing?"

Maybe just maybe if the French stopped them getting into the rubber dinghies in the first place they would need rescue boats.

Isn't that a good thing?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Just read the story. They're rescue boats. That seems to be what's going on.

Isn't that a good thing?"

yeah if they rescue them and take them back to France and process them if not no another wasted 60 million

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It is good to see our EU friends helping the UK control it’s borders

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields


"Just read the story. They're rescue boats. That seems to be what's going on.

Isn't that a good thing?

Maybe just maybe if the French stopped them getting into the rubber dinghies in the first place they would need rescue boats.

Isn't that a good thing?"

Whatever way they think is the best way to help these people is good by me.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields


"Just read the story. They're rescue boats. That seems to be what's going on.

Isn't that a good thing? yeah if they rescue them and take them back to France and process them if not no another wasted 60 million "

If the French think it's worth the money to save lives. Fair play to them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"France sending to new boats to the English channel to help with the illegal crossings brilliant till it said they will shadow them till on the English side till are navy picks them up wtf going on.

Ah but the UN has a list of safe countries from which asylum claims are generally dismissed. It includes Albania which should be good news for hoteliers throughout the country "

un or EU ? I can see the EU does. However safe doesn't mean there isn't modern sl@very etc.

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By *mateur100Man
over a year ago

nr faversham


"France sending to new boats to the English channel to help with the illegal crossings brilliant till it said they will shadow them till on the English side till are navy picks them up wtf going on.

Ah but the UN has a list of safe countries from which asylum claims are generally dismissed. It includes Albania which should be good news for hoteliers throughout the country un or EU ? I can see the EU does. However safe doesn't mean there isn't modern sl@very etc. "

UN refugee agency. On this basis the Labour party will drastically reduce the backlog. Begs a couple of questions...why are they only mentioning it now and what the fuck are idiots in the govt playing at

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"France sending to new boats to the English channel to help with the illegal crossings brilliant till it said they will shadow them till on the English side till are navy picks them up wtf going on.

Ah but the UN has a list of safe countries from which asylum claims are generally dismissed. It includes Albania which should be good news for hoteliers throughout the country un or EU ? I can see the EU does. However safe doesn't mean there isn't modern sl@very etc.

UN refugee agency. On this basis the Labour party will drastically reduce the backlog. Begs a couple of questions...why are they only mentioning it now and what the fuck are idiots in the govt playing at "

do you have a link.

This reads like they think it's s bad idea

https://www.unhcr.org/uk/excom/scip/3ae68ccec/background-note-safe-country-concept-refugee-status.html

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By *mateur100Man
over a year ago

nr faversham


"France sending to new boats to the English channel to help with the illegal crossings brilliant till it said they will shadow them till on the English side till are navy picks them up wtf going on.

Ah but the UN has a list of safe countries from which asylum claims are generally dismissed. It includes Albania which should be good news for hoteliers throughout the country un or EU ? I can see the EU does. However safe doesn't mean there isn't modern sl@very etc.

UN refugee agency. On this basis the Labour party will drastically reduce the backlog. Begs a couple of questions...why are they only mentioning it now and what the fuck are idiots in the govt playing at do you have a link.

This reads like they think it's s bad idea

https://www.unhcr.org/uk/excom/scip/3ae68ccec/background-note-safe-country-concept-refugee-status.html"

BBC website and Yvette cooper. I don't have a link as such

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"France sending to new boats to the English channel to help with the illegal crossings brilliant till it said they will shadow them till on the English side till are navy picks them up wtf going on.

Ah but the UN has a list of safe countries from which asylum claims are generally dismissed. It includes Albania which should be good news for hoteliers throughout the country un or EU ? I can see the EU does. However safe doesn't mean there isn't modern sl@very etc.

UN refugee agency. On this basis the Labour party will drastically reduce the backlog. Begs a couple of questions...why are they only mentioning it now and what the fuck are idiots in the govt playing at do you have a link.

This reads like they think it's s bad idea

https://www.unhcr.org/uk/excom/scip/3ae68ccec/background-note-safe-country-concept-refugee-status.html

BBC website and Yvette cooper. I don't have a link as such"

okay. They don't have a safe list. But say a safe list can be useful to accelerate looking at claims (labour point) provided it doesn't serve to block access. Eg you can't say a claim must be false because they come from Albania.

Point 10 in my link.

Nothing about claims generally being dismissed.

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By *mateur100Man
over a year ago

nr faversham


"France sending to new boats to the English channel to help with the illegal crossings brilliant till it said they will shadow them till on the English side till are navy picks them up wtf going on.

Ah but the UN has a list of safe countries from which asylum claims are generally dismissed. It includes Albania which should be good news for hoteliers throughout the country un or EU ? I can see the EU does. However safe doesn't mean there isn't modern sl@very etc.

UN refugee agency. On this basis the Labour party will drastically reduce the backlog. Begs a couple of questions...why are they only mentioning it now and what the fuck are idiots in the govt playing at do you have a link.

This reads like they think it's s bad idea

https://www.unhcr.org/uk/excom/scip/3ae68ccec/background-note-safe-country-concept-refugee-status.html

BBC website and Yvette cooper. I don't have a link as suchokay. They don't have a safe list. But say a safe list can be useful to accelerate looking at claims (labour point) provided it doesn't serve to block access. Eg you can't say a claim must be false because they come from Albania.

Point 10 in my link.

Nothing about claims generally being dismissed. "

Re-read the article. That's changed from earlier however the point remains unless the individual can prove otherwise, it's an unfounded claim except for cases where it can be shown otherwise which would surely lead to the country in question no longer be designated as safe.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"France sending to new boats to the English channel to help with the illegal crossings brilliant till it said they will shadow them till on the English side till are navy picks them up wtf going on.

Ah but the UN has a list of safe countries from which asylum claims are generally dismissed. It includes Albania which should be good news for hoteliers throughout the country un or EU ? I can see the EU does. However safe doesn't mean there isn't modern sl@very etc.

UN refugee agency. On this basis the Labour party will drastically reduce the backlog. Begs a couple of questions...why are they only mentioning it now and what the fuck are idiots in the govt playing at do you have a link.

This reads like they think it's s bad idea

https://www.unhcr.org/uk/excom/scip/3ae68ccec/background-note-safe-country-concept-refugee-status.html

BBC website and Yvette cooper. I don't have a link as suchokay. They don't have a safe list. But say a safe list can be useful to accelerate looking at claims (labour point) provided it doesn't serve to block access. Eg you can't say a claim must be false because they come from Albania.

Point 10 in my link.

Nothing about claims generally being dismissed.

Re-read the article. That's changed from earlier however the point remains unless the individual can prove otherwise, it's an unfounded claim except for cases where it can be shown otherwise which would surely lead to the country in question no longer be designated as safe. "

I don't understand what point you are making. There's no detail on the site as to how accelerated work. But my point wasn't about that. It's about the UN having a list where most claims are dismissed.

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By *mateur100Man
over a year ago

nr faversham


"France sending to new boats to the English channel to help with the illegal crossings brilliant till it said they will shadow them till on the English side till are navy picks them up wtf going on.

Ah but the UN has a list of safe countries from which asylum claims are generally dismissed. It includes Albania which should be good news for hoteliers throughout the country un or EU ? I can see the EU does. However safe doesn't mean there isn't modern sl@very etc.

UN refugee agency. On this basis the Labour party will drastically reduce the backlog. Begs a couple of questions...why are they only mentioning it now and what the fuck are idiots in the govt playing at do you have a link.

This reads like they think it's s bad idea

https://www.unhcr.org/uk/excom/scip/3ae68ccec/background-note-safe-country-concept-refugee-status.html

BBC website and Yvette cooper. I don't have a link as suchokay. They don't have a safe list. But say a safe list can be useful to accelerate looking at claims (labour point) provided it doesn't serve to block access. Eg you can't say a claim must be false because they come from Albania.

Point 10 in my link.

Nothing about claims generally being dismissed.

Re-read the article. That's changed from earlier however the point remains unless the individual can prove otherwise, it's an unfounded claim except for cases where it can be shown otherwise which would surely lead to the country in question no longer be designated as safe. I don't understand what point you are making. There's no detail on the site as to how accelerated work. But my point wasn't about that. It's about the UN having a list where most claims are dismissed. "

According to the BBC and Labour the UN has a list of safe countries. The point is that asylum claims should not, in the main, be entertained due to the safe status of the country of origin. It would appear to be the basis of the Labour response to the asylum backlog. If it's that simple I'd like to know why it's taken the Labour party until now to highlight this but more importantly why the govt seem to be blissfully unaware

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"France sending to new boats to the English channel to help with the illegal crossings brilliant till it said they will shadow them till on the English side till are navy picks them up wtf going on.

Ah but the UN has a list of safe countries from which asylum claims are generally dismissed. It includes Albania which should be good news for hoteliers throughout the country un or EU ? I can see the EU does. However safe doesn't mean there isn't modern sl@very etc.

UN refugee agency. On this basis the Labour party will drastically reduce the backlog. Begs a couple of questions...why are they only mentioning it now and what the fuck are idiots in the govt playing at do you have a link.

This reads like they think it's s bad idea

https://www.unhcr.org/uk/excom/scip/3ae68ccec/background-note-safe-country-concept-refugee-status.html

BBC website and Yvette cooper. I don't have a link as suchokay. They don't have a safe list. But say a safe list can be useful to accelerate looking at claims (labour point) provided it doesn't serve to block access. Eg you can't say a claim must be false because they come from Albania.

Point 10 in my link.

Nothing about claims generally being dismissed.

Re-read the article. That's changed from earlier however the point remains unless the individual can prove otherwise, it's an unfounded claim except for cases where it can be shown otherwise which would surely lead to the country in question no longer be designated as safe. I don't understand what point you are making. There's no detail on the site as to how accelerated work. But my point wasn't about that. It's about the UN having a list where most claims are dismissed.

According to the BBC and Labour the UN has a list of safe countries. The point is that asylum claims should not, in the main, be entertained due to the safe status of the country of origin. It would appear to be the basis of the Labour response to the asylum backlog. If it's that simple I'd like to know why it's taken the Labour party until now to highlight this but more importantly why the govt seem to be blissfully unaware "

I'd need to see that quote. It's not in the BBC article i saw or any other.

Not entertaining...appears to be what the UN are worried about. I don't get how that works in practice. Unless the claim is "religious persecution" and they can't present evidence. Maybe the is the point, the onus changes.

I hate to say it but I think labour have waited till a GE is around the corner. Bringing out ideas in year 1 doesn't help them. And the Tories are shit at policies. Especially if they need to be enacted.

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By *mateur100Man
over a year ago

nr faversham


"France sending to new boats to the English channel to help with the illegal crossings brilliant till it said they will shadow them till on the English side till are navy picks them up wtf going on.

Ah but the UN has a list of safe countries from which asylum claims are generally dismissed. It includes Albania which should be good news for hoteliers throughout the country un or EU ? I can see the EU does. However safe doesn't mean there isn't modern sl@very etc.

UN refugee agency. On this basis the Labour party will drastically reduce the backlog. Begs a couple of questions...why are they only mentioning it now and what the fuck are idiots in the govt playing at do you have a link.

This reads like they think it's s bad idea

https://www.unhcr.org/uk/excom/scip/3ae68ccec/background-note-safe-country-concept-refugee-status.html

BBC website and Yvette cooper. I don't have a link as suchokay. They don't have a safe list. But say a safe list can be useful to accelerate looking at claims (labour point) provided it doesn't serve to block access. Eg you can't say a claim must be false because they come from Albania.

Point 10 in my link.

Nothing about claims generally being dismissed.

Re-read the article. That's changed from earlier however the point remains unless the individual can prove otherwise, it's an unfounded claim except for cases where it can be shown otherwise which would surely lead to the country in question no longer be designated as safe. I don't understand what point you are making. There's no detail on the site as to how accelerated work. But my point wasn't about that. It's about the UN having a list where most claims are dismissed.

According to the BBC and Labour the UN has a list of safe countries. The point is that asylum claims should not, in the main, be entertained due to the safe status of the country of origin. It would appear to be the basis of the Labour response to the asylum backlog. If it's that simple I'd like to know why it's taken the Labour party until now to highlight this but more importantly why the govt seem to be blissfully unaware I'd need to see that quote. It's not in the BBC article i saw or any other.

Not entertaining...appears to be what the UN are worried about. I don't get how that works in practice. Unless the claim is "religious persecution" and they can't present evidence. Maybe the is the point, the onus changes.

I hate to say it but I think labour have waited till a GE is around the corner. Bringing out ideas in year 1 doesn't help them. And the Tories are shit at policies. Especially if they need to be enacted. "

If religious persecution wasa valid claim,byhe country of origin wouldn't be classed as safe. We seem to be at cross d purposes her. I'm looking to send these people back, you don't appear to be. Nice chatting. Goodnight

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"France sending to new boats to the English channel to help with the illegal crossings brilliant till it said they will shadow them till on the English side till are navy picks them up wtf going on.

Ah but the UN has a list of safe countries from which asylum claims are generally dismissed. It includes Albania which should be good news for hoteliers throughout the country un or EU ? I can see the EU does. However safe doesn't mean there isn't modern sl@very etc.

UN refugee agency. On this basis the Labour party will drastically reduce the backlog. Begs a couple of questions...why are they only mentioning it now and what the fuck are idiots in the govt playing at do you have a link.

This reads like they think it's s bad idea

https://www.unhcr.org/uk/excom/scip/3ae68ccec/background-note-safe-country-concept-refugee-status.html

BBC website and Yvette cooper. I don't have a link as suchokay. They don't have a safe list. But say a safe list can be useful to accelerate looking at claims (labour point) provided it doesn't serve to block access. Eg you can't say a claim must be false because they come from Albania.

Point 10 in my link.

Nothing about claims generally being dismissed.

Re-read the article. That's changed from earlier however the point remains unless the individual can prove otherwise, it's an unfounded claim except for cases where it can be shown otherwise which would surely lead to the country in question no longer be designated as safe. I don't understand what point you are making. There's no detail on the site as to how accelerated work. But my point wasn't about that. It's about the UN having a list where most claims are dismissed.

According to the BBC and Labour the UN has a list of safe countries. The point is that asylum claims should not, in the main, be entertained due to the safe status of the country of origin. It would appear to be the basis of the Labour response to the asylum backlog. If it's that simple I'd like to know why it's taken the Labour party until now to highlight this but more importantly why the govt seem to be blissfully unaware I'd need to see that quote. It's not in the BBC article i saw or any other.

Not entertaining...appears to be what the UN are worried about. I don't get how that works in practice. Unless the claim is "religious persecution" and they can't present evidence. Maybe the is the point, the onus changes.

I hate to say it but I think labour have waited till a GE is around the corner. Bringing out ideas in year 1 doesn't help them. And the Tories are shit at policies. Especially if they need to be enacted.

If religious persecution wasa valid claim,byhe country of origin wouldn't be classed as safe. We seem to be at cross d purposes her. I'm looking to send these people back, you don't appear to be. Nice chatting. Goodnight "

I trying to understand the approach. It's true I don't want to send anyone back who is being persecuted. But I am okay with sending ppl back who don't have a valid claim.

But I don't agree there is a UN safe list. Nor do I agree it's impossible to be religiously persecuted if you are from a safe country. I do agree it is unlikely and that it makes sense that said person needs to show it.

Sleep well.

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By *mateur100Man
over a year ago

nr faversham


"France sending to new boats to the English channel to help with the illegal crossings brilliant till it said they will shadow them till on the English side till are navy picks them up wtf going on.

Ah but the UN has a list of safe countries from which asylum claims are generally dismissed. It includes Albania which should be good news for hoteliers throughout the country un or EU ? I can see the EU does. However safe doesn't mean there isn't modern sl@very etc.

UN refugee agency. On this basis the Labour party will drastically reduce the backlog. Begs a couple of questions...why are they only mentioning it now and what the fuck are idiots in the govt playing at do you have a link.

This reads like they think it's s bad idea

https://www.unhcr.org/uk/excom/scip/3ae68ccec/background-note-safe-country-concept-refugee-status.html

BBC website and Yvette cooper. I don't have a link as suchokay. They don't have a safe list. But say a safe list can be useful to accelerate looking at claims (labour point) provided it doesn't serve to block access. Eg you can't say a claim must be false because they come from Albania.

Point 10 in my link.

Nothing about claims generally being dismissed.

Re-read the article. That's changed from earlier however the point remains unless the individual can prove otherwise, it's an unfounded claim except for cases where it can be shown otherwise which would surely lead to the country in question no longer be designated as safe. I don't understand what point you are making. There's no detail on the site as to how accelerated work. But my point wasn't about that. It's about the UN having a list where most claims are dismissed.

According to the BBC and Labour the UN has a list of safe countries. The point is that asylum claims should not, in the main, be entertained due to the safe status of the country of origin. It would appear to be the basis of the Labour response to the asylum backlog. If it's that simple I'd like to know why it's taken the Labour party until now to highlight this but more importantly why the govt seem to be blissfully unaware I'd need to see that quote. It's not in the BBC article i saw or any other.

Not entertaining...appears to be what the UN are worried about. I don't get how that works in practice. Unless the claim is "religious persecution" and they can't present evidence. Maybe the is the point, the onus changes.

I hate to say it but I think labour have waited till a GE is around the corner. Bringing out ideas in year 1 doesn't help them. And the Tories are shit at policies. Especially if they need to be enacted.

If religious persecution wasa valid claim,byhe country of origin wouldn't be classed as safe. We seem to be at cross d purposes her. I'm looking to send these people back, you don't appear to be. Nice chatting. Goodnight I trying to understand the approach. It's true I don't want to send anyone back who is being persecuted. But I am okay with sending ppl back who don't have a valid claim.

But I don't agree there is a UN safe list. Nor do I agree it's impossible to be religiously persecuted if you are from a safe country. I do agree it is unlikely and that it makes sense that said person needs to show it.

Sleep well.

"

There IS a UN list of safe countries

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"France sending to new boats to the English channel to help with the illegal crossings brilliant till it said they will shadow them till on the English side till are navy picks them up wtf going on.

Ah but the UN has a list of safe countries from which asylum claims are generally dismissed. It includes Albania which should be good news for hoteliers throughout the country un or EU ? I can see the EU does. However safe doesn't mean there isn't modern sl@very etc.

UN refugee agency. On this basis the Labour party will drastically reduce the backlog. Begs a couple of questions...why are they only mentioning it now and what the fuck are idiots in the govt playing at do you have a link.

This reads like they think it's s bad idea

https://www.unhcr.org/uk/excom/scip/3ae68ccec/background-note-safe-country-concept-refugee-status.html

BBC website and Yvette cooper. I don't have a link as suchokay. They don't have a safe list. But say a safe list can be useful to accelerate looking at claims (labour point) provided it doesn't serve to block access. Eg you can't say a claim must be false because they come from Albania.

Point 10 in my link.

Nothing about claims generally being dismissed.

Re-read the article. That's changed from earlier however the point remains unless the individual can prove otherwise, it's an unfounded claim except for cases where it can be shown otherwise which would surely lead to the country in question no longer be designated as safe. I don't understand what point you are making. There's no detail on the site as to how accelerated work. But my point wasn't about that. It's about the UN having a list where most claims are dismissed.

According to the BBC and Labour the UN has a list of safe countries. The point is that asylum claims should not, in the main, be entertained due to the safe status of the country of origin. It would appear to be the basis of the Labour response to the asylum backlog. If it's that simple I'd like to know why it's taken the Labour party until now to highlight this but more importantly why the govt seem to be blissfully unaware I'd need to see that quote. It's not in the BBC article i saw or any other.

Not entertaining...appears to be what the UN are worried about. I don't get how that works in practice. Unless the claim is "religious persecution" and they can't present evidence. Maybe the is the point, the onus changes.

I hate to say it but I think labour have waited till a GE is around the corner. Bringing out ideas in year 1 doesn't help them. And the Tories are shit at policies. Especially if they need to be enacted.

If religious persecution wasa valid claim,byhe country of origin wouldn't be classed as safe. We seem to be at cross d purposes her. I'm looking to send these people back, you don't appear to be. Nice chatting. Goodnight I trying to understand the approach. It's true I don't want to send anyone back who is being persecuted. But I am okay with sending ppl back who don't have a valid claim.

But I don't agree there is a UN safe list. Nor do I agree it's impossible to be religiously persecuted if you are from a safe country. I do agree it is unlikely and that it makes sense that said person needs to show it.

Sleep well.

There IS a UN list of safe countries "

I'm happy to be corrected. A link to either the list or the quote which has led you to believe this. The impression I got from their site is they have reservations about them. And I couldn't find the list.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"France sending to new boats to the English channel to help with the illegal crossings brilliant till it said they will shadow them till on the English side till are navy picks them up wtf going on."

The importation of cheap labour, that's what is going on.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Dont forget wev just made a deal giving the french 63milion quid every year so they can just stant and laugh at us .that money is despatley needed at home for oure people

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By *mateur100Man
over a year ago

nr faversham


"France sending to new boats to the English channel to help with the illegal crossings brilliant till it said they will shadow them till on the English side till are navy picks them up wtf going on.

Ah but the UN has a list of safe countries from which asylum claims are generally dismissed. It includes Albania which should be good news for hoteliers throughout the country un or EU ? I can see the EU does. However safe doesn't mean there isn't modern sl@very etc.

UN refugee agency. On this basis the Labour party will drastically reduce the backlog. Begs a couple of questions...why are they only mentioning it now and what the fuck are idiots in the govt playing at do you have a link.

This reads like they think it's s bad idea

https://www.unhcr.org/uk/excom/scip/3ae68ccec/background-note-safe-country-concept-refugee-status.html

BBC website and Yvette cooper. I don't have a link as suchokay. They don't have a safe list. But say a safe list can be useful to accelerate looking at claims (labour point) provided it doesn't serve to block access. Eg you can't say a claim must be false because they come from Albania.

Point 10 in my link.

Nothing about claims generally being dismissed.

Re-read the article. That's changed from earlier however the point remains unless the individual can prove otherwise, it's an unfounded claim except for cases where it can be shown otherwise which would surely lead to the country in question no longer be designated as safe. I don't understand what point you are making. There's no detail on the site as to how accelerated work. But my point wasn't about that. It's about the UN having a list where most claims are dismissed.

According to the BBC and Labour the UN has a list of safe countries. The point is that asylum claims should not, in the main, be entertained due to the safe status of the country of origin. It would appear to be the basis of the Labour response to the asylum backlog. If it's that simple I'd like to know why it's taken the Labour party until now to highlight this but more importantly why the govt seem to be blissfully unaware I'd need to see that quote. It's not in the BBC article i saw or any other.

Not entertaining...appears to be what the UN are worried about. I don't get how that works in practice. Unless the claim is "religious persecution" and they can't present evidence. Maybe the is the point, the onus changes.

I hate to say it but I think labour have waited till a GE is around the corner. Bringing out ideas in year 1 doesn't help them. And the Tories are shit at policies. Especially if they need to be enacted.

If religious persecution wasa valid claim,byhe country of origin wouldn't be classed as safe. We seem to be at cross d purposes her. I'm looking to send these people back, you don't appear to be. Nice chatting. Goodnight I trying to understand the approach. It's true I don't want to send anyone back who is being persecuted. But I am okay with sending ppl back who don't have a valid claim.

But I don't agree there is a UN safe list. Nor do I agree it's impossible to be religiously persecuted if you are from a safe country. I do agree it is unlikely and that it makes sense that said person needs to show it.

Sleep well.

There IS a UN list of safe countries I'm happy to be corrected. A link to either the list or the quote which has led you to believe this. The impression I got from their site is they have reservations about them. And I couldn't find the list. "

BBC website or Yvette cooper could tell you. I managed to find it via the UN but I can't be arsed to search for it again

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over a year ago


"France sending to new boats to the English channel to help with the illegal crossings brilliant till it said they will shadow them till on the English side till are navy picks them up wtf going on.

Ah but the UN has a list of safe countries from which asylum claims are generally dismissed. It includes Albania which should be good news for hoteliers throughout the country un or EU ? I can see the EU does. However safe doesn't mean there isn't modern sl@very etc.

UN refugee agency. On this basis the Labour party will drastically reduce the backlog. Begs a couple of questions...why are they only mentioning it now and what the fuck are idiots in the govt playing at do you have a link.

This reads like they think it's s bad idea

https://www.unhcr.org/uk/excom/scip/3ae68ccec/background-note-safe-country-concept-refugee-status.html

BBC website and Yvette cooper. I don't have a link as suchokay. They don't have a safe list. But say a safe list can be useful to accelerate looking at claims (labour point) provided it doesn't serve to block access. Eg you can't say a claim must be false because they come from Albania.

Point 10 in my link.

Nothing about claims generally being dismissed.

Re-read the article. That's changed from earlier however the point remains unless the individual can prove otherwise, it's an unfounded claim except for cases where it can be shown otherwise which would surely lead to the country in question no longer be designated as safe. I don't understand what point you are making. There's no detail on the site as to how accelerated work. But my point wasn't about that. It's about the UN having a list where most claims are dismissed.

According to the BBC and Labour the UN has a list of safe countries. The point is that asylum claims should not, in the main, be entertained due to the safe status of the country of origin. It would appear to be the basis of the Labour response to the asylum backlog. If it's that simple I'd like to know why it's taken the Labour party until now to highlight this but more importantly why the govt seem to be blissfully unaware I'd need to see that quote. It's not in the BBC article i saw or any other.

Not entertaining...appears to be what the UN are worried about. I don't get how that works in practice. Unless the claim is "religious persecution" and they can't present evidence. Maybe the is the point, the onus changes.

I hate to say it but I think labour have waited till a GE is around the corner. Bringing out ideas in year 1 doesn't help them. And the Tories are shit at policies. Especially if they need to be enacted.

If religious persecution wasa valid claim,byhe country of origin wouldn't be classed as safe. We seem to be at cross d purposes her. I'm looking to send these people back, you don't appear to be. Nice chatting. Goodnight I trying to understand the approach. It's true I don't want to send anyone back who is being persecuted. But I am okay with sending ppl back who don't have a valid claim.

But I don't agree there is a UN safe list. Nor do I agree it's impossible to be religiously persecuted if you are from a safe country. I do agree it is unlikely and that it makes sense that said person needs to show it.

Sleep well.

There IS a UN list of safe countries I'm happy to be corrected. A link to either the list or the quote which has led you to believe this. The impression I got from their site is they have reservations about them. And I couldn't find the list.

BBC website or Yvette cooper could tell you. I managed to find it via the UN but I can't be arsed to search for it again "

I have looked at both BBC and other sources. They only refer to safe lists being appropriate for accelerated claims (and if safe guards are in place). Like I said, given their position in the link I provided, I'm cynical until I see it with my own eyes. I trust you can see why based on what ive posted.

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