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By *I Two OP   Couple
over a year ago

PDI 12-26th Nov 24

Liverpool City Region has signed an agreement with the company behind the world's largest tidal power plant in a bid to power up to one million homes.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-63878410.amp

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

Been a few years in the making this one, and would still require Goverment money to proceed.

needless to say, many wildlife groups have come out fighting against the plans.

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol

It does not matter what you try to do someone will object and hold it up forever until it gets forced through.

Then you will get the headline that the government are destroying this or that.

Sometimes you just need to do it

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By *rDiscretionXXXMan
over a year ago

Gilfach


"Liverpool City Region has signed an agreement with the company behind the world's largest tidal power plant in a bid to power up to one million homes."

An agreement has indeed been signed, but it's just an agreement to share information. There's no agreement to actually build anything.

I suspect that this is just the local mayor wanting to show that he's doing something, and that it will get dropped at the next elections when a new mayor comes in and wants to show that he's cutting down on wasted expenditure.

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By *I Two OP   Couple
over a year ago

PDI 12-26th Nov 24


"Liverpool City Region has signed an agreement with the company behind the world's largest tidal power plant in a bid to power up to one million homes.

An agreement has indeed been signed, but it's just an agreement to share information. There's no agreement to actually build anything.

I suspect that this is just the local mayor wanting to show that he's doing something, and that it will get dropped at the next elections when a new mayor comes in and wants to show that he's cutting down on wasted expenditure."

Like the one that they withdrew planning permission because they couldn't agree if start work meant the same as begin work and other such frivolous technicalities and then granted planning for another one on the same day.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The Severn estuary has one of the largest tidal ranges in the world.

All that RELIABLE energy flowing permanently, 24/7, with the exception of the very brief periods when the tide turns.

And it’s ignored!!!

Build a barrage with reversible turbines, and tap into the ultimate clean energy source.

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By *hris3092Man
over a year ago

Swansea / Valencia

Like the one in Swansea, every possible objection and delay put in place until the time ran out Now some big firm ( can't remember which one ) has revived it with a proposal almost identical to the first and it looks to be going ahead. Follow the money.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The Severn estuary has one of the largest tidal ranges in the world.

All that RELIABLE energy flowing permanently, 24/7, with the exception of the very brief periods when the tide turns.

And it’s ignored!!!

Build a barrage with reversible turbines, and tap into the ultimate clean energy source."

Although large tidal ranges sound perfect, they're not ideal.

It's been tried before. Albeit not in the UK, this video explains it pretty well.

https://youtu.be/nCrTsWtPVIY

Winston

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By *hris3092Man
over a year ago

Swansea / Valencia

The proposal in Swansea is not a barrage, it is a lagoon, so in effect a hydroelectric reservour. The rise and fall in Swansea bay is around 30 feet, so a vast storage is possible every tide. The advantage is that it generates on the incoming as well as the outgoing. Hydro electric generation is a well understood tech

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields


"The Severn estuary has one of the largest tidal ranges in the world.

All that RELIABLE energy flowing permanently, 24/7, with the exception of the very brief periods when the tide turns.

And it’s ignored!!!

Build a barrage with reversible turbines, and tap into the ultimate clean energy source.

Although large tidal ranges sound perfect, they're not ideal.

It's been tried before. Albeit not in the UK, this video explains it pretty well.

https://youtu.be/nCrTsWtPVIY

Winston "

That video is why it didn't work in that specific bay. Not why it won't work anywhere.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The Severn estuary has one of the largest tidal ranges in the world.

All that RELIABLE energy flowing permanently, 24/7, with the exception of the very brief periods when the tide turns.

And it’s ignored!!!

Build a barrage with reversible turbines, and tap into the ultimate clean energy source.

Although large tidal ranges sound perfect, they're not ideal.

It's been tried before. Albeit not in the UK, this video explains it pretty well.

https://youtu.be/nCrTsWtPVIY

Winston

That video is why it didn't work in that specific bay. Not why it won't work anywhere. "

"The Severn estuary has one of the largest tidal ranges in the world"

The one in the video is smaller and it didn't work there.

In principle it's a brilliant idea. The problem, as explained in the video, is the blades.

I wondered if carbon fibre blades might work?

Winston

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields


"The Severn estuary has one of the largest tidal ranges in the world.

All that RELIABLE energy flowing permanently, 24/7, with the exception of the very brief periods when the tide turns.

And it’s ignored!!!

Build a barrage with reversible turbines, and tap into the ultimate clean energy source.

Although large tidal ranges sound perfect, they're not ideal.

It's been tried before. Albeit not in the UK, this video explains it pretty well.

https://youtu.be/nCrTsWtPVIY

Winston

That video is why it didn't work in that specific bay. Not why it won't work anywhere.

"The Severn estuary has one of the largest tidal ranges in the world"

The one in the video is smaller and it didn't work there.

In principle it's a brilliant idea. The problem, as explained in the video, is the blades.

I wondered if carbon fibre blades might work?

Winston "

The seven estuary doesn't have ice and doesn't have the same rock content bouncing around.

But maybe a grill around the turbines. This feels like a solvable problem.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The Severn estuary has one of the largest tidal ranges in the world.

All that RELIABLE energy flowing permanently, 24/7, with the exception of the very brief periods when the tide turns.

And it’s ignored!!!

Build a barrage with reversible turbines, and tap into the ultimate clean energy source.

Although large tidal ranges sound perfect, they're not ideal.

It's been tried before. Albeit not in the UK, this video explains it pretty well.

https://youtu.be/nCrTsWtPVIY

Winston

That video is why it didn't work in that specific bay. Not why it won't work anywhere.

"The Severn estuary has one of the largest tidal ranges in the world"

The one in the video is smaller and it didn't work there.

In principle it's a brilliant idea. The problem, as explained in the video, is the blades.

I wondered if carbon fibre blades might work?

Winston

The seven estuary doesn't have ice and doesn't have the same rock content bouncing around.

But maybe a grill around the turbines. This feels like a solvable problem. "

Agreed.

I don't know what the local economy is based on, or what wildlife issues there may be.

In principle, it seems like a no brainer.

Winston

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields


"The Severn estuary has one of the largest tidal ranges in the world.

All that RELIABLE energy flowing permanently, 24/7, with the exception of the very brief periods when the tide turns.

And it’s ignored!!!

Build a barrage with reversible turbines, and tap into the ultimate clean energy source.

Although large tidal ranges sound perfect, they're not ideal.

It's been tried before. Albeit not in the UK, this video explains it pretty well.

https://youtu.be/nCrTsWtPVIY

Winston

That video is why it didn't work in that specific bay. Not why it won't work anywhere.

"The Severn estuary has one of the largest tidal ranges in the world"

The one in the video is smaller and it didn't work there.

In principle it's a brilliant idea. The problem, as explained in the video, is the blades.

I wondered if carbon fibre blades might work?

Winston

The seven estuary doesn't have ice and doesn't have the same rock content bouncing around.

But maybe a grill around the turbines. This feels like a solvable problem.

Agreed.

I don't know what the local economy is based on, or what wildlife issues there may be.

In principle, it seems like a no brainer.

Winston "

There are ways to do it with minimal impact to the sensitive estuary ecosystems. It just takes a little more planning.

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By *I Two OP   Couple
over a year ago

PDI 12-26th Nov 24


"The proposal in Swansea is not a barrage, it is a lagoon, so in effect a hydroelectric reservour. The rise and fall in Swansea bay is around 30 feet, so a vast storage is possible every tide. The advantage is that it generates on the incoming as well as the outgoing. Hydro electric generation is a well understood tech "

That's exactly what we need, dozens of man made lagoons around the UK

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By *astcoast2000Man
over a year ago

Newcastle County Down


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Liverpool City Region has signed an agreement with the company behind the world's largest tidal power plant in a bid to power up to one million homes.They had one in Strangford if you can remember spent more on servicing it than it produced then spent millions getting it taken removed

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-63878410.amp"

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By *enny PR9TV/TS
over a year ago

Southport

The river Mersey flows with strength and grace,

A natural wonder that's hard to replace,

But for too long, we've taken and taken,

Without a thought for the balance we're breaking.

But now, at last, it seems we're waking up,

To the power of the tides, a source we can't corrupt.

Tidal turbines spin in the currents strong,

Harnessing energy all day and all night long,

Bringing a sense of hope and renewal,

To a river that's been in a constant duel,

With the demands of man and the needs of the earth,

But with tidal power, a new balance has birth.

So yes, my friend, the river Mersey,

Will finally have a way to give back, and it's easy,

To see that this is a new day,

One where we work with nature, not against it, in every way.

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