FabSwingers.com forum: Michelle Mone

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Nothing to see here? Something something Corbyn? Just your regular corruption? The tip of the iceberg?

I'm curious how this one's going to play out & be spun.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I'm also curious if she'll ultimately go to jail.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm also curious if she'll ultimately go to jail."

I doubt she will go to jail, maybe they will blame it on one of her minions,

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I'm also curious if she'll ultimately go to jail.

I doubt she will go to jail, maybe they will blame it on one of her minions, "

So you agree it's Corbyn's fault?

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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago

Longridge

Check your spelling..

Michelle Mone or Michelle Money grabbing snake?

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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago

Longridge

Plus you underestimate the CONservatives.

They are not the "All for One, One for All" of the 3 Musketeers.

They'll chuck her under a bus to protect the rest.

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

Ahem...

https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/politics/1385685

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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago

Longridge

"Ahem...

https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/politics/1385685

Yours got too big..

Trolls don't see me so far down!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm also curious if she'll ultimately go to jail.

I doubt she will go to jail, maybe they will blame it on one of her minions,

So you agree it's Corbyn's fault?"

No, it’s the ‘boat peoples’ fault

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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago

Longridge

"I'm also curious if she'll ultimately go to jail.

I doubt she will go to jail, maybe they will blame it on one of her minions,

So you agree it's Corbyn's fault?

No, it’s the ‘boat peoples’ fault "

Wrong.. your term is outdated..

It's "small boat peoples" now..

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I'm also curious if she'll ultimately go to jail.

I doubt she will go to jail, maybe they will blame it on one of her minions,

So you agree it's Corbyn's fault?

No, it’s the ‘boat peoples’ fault "

Ugghhhh I'm getting confused. I can't remember who I'm meant to hate anymore now.

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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago

Longridge

Hate is a strong word!!

Not Humanly

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

"Ahem...

https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/politics/1385685

Yours got too big..

Trolls don't see me so far down!!"

Thought there was no such thing as too big?

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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago

Longridge

Erm..

I really want to - but don't think I should answer that!!

It's my Birthday tomorrow and last time you said I scared you, picked up two Trolls..

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Ahem...

https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/politics/1385685

Yours got too big..

Trolls don't see me so far down!!

Thought there was no such thing as too big?

I got turned down for being too big before lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm also curious if she'll ultimately go to jail.

I doubt she will go to jail, maybe they will blame it on one of her minions,

So you agree it's Corbyn's fault?

No, it’s the ‘boat peoples’ fault

Wrong.. your term is outdated..

It's "small boat peoples" now.."

Indeed, I stand corrected

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm also curious if she'll ultimately go to jail.

I doubt she will go to jail, maybe they will blame it on one of her minions,

So you agree it's Corbyn's fault?

No, it’s the ‘boat peoples’ fault

Ugghhhh I'm getting confused. I can't remember who I'm meant to hate anymore now."

Corbyn

The EU

Lefties

Lawyers

Strikers

Climate change activists

Small boat people

Immigrants

Harry & Meghan

The RNLI

Poor people

Tofu eaters

The woke

Guardian readers

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I'm also curious if she'll ultimately go to jail.

I doubt she will go to jail, maybe they will blame it on one of her minions,

So you agree it's Corbyn's fault?

No, it’s the ‘boat peoples’ fault

Ugghhhh I'm getting confused. I can't remember who I'm meant to hate anymore now.

Corbyn

The EU

Lefties

Lawyers

Strikers

Climate change activists

Small boat people

Immigrants

Harry & Meghan

The RNLI

Poor people

Tofu eaters

The woke

Guardian readers

I haven't got time to hate all that lot all the time. I'm a busy man. Can I hate different ones on different days? For instance, can I set up an advent calendar of hatred?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm also curious if she'll ultimately go to jail.

I doubt she will go to jail, maybe they will blame it on one of her minions,

So you agree it's Corbyn's fault?

No, it’s the ‘boat peoples’ fault

Ugghhhh I'm getting confused. I can't remember who I'm meant to hate anymore now.

Corbyn

The EU

Lefties

Lawyers

Strikers

Climate change activists

Small boat people

Immigrants

Harry & Meghan

The RNLI

Poor people

Tofu eaters

The woke

Guardian readers

I haven't got time to hate all that lot all the time. I'm a busy man. Can I hate different ones on different days? For instance, can I set up an advent calendar of hatred?"

Yes, don’t over do it, spread the hate, I also forgot to add Marcus Rashford to the list

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is just one example of corrupt politicians. They all drink at the same bars you know. Some are just more blatant and obvious than others. People should be looking at ripping the whole corrupt system out.

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By *oversfunCouple
over a year ago

ayrshire

"Hate is a strong word!!

Not Humanly"

I hate all tories and everything they stand for

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By *cottishpersonMan
over a year ago

east kilbride

Mone by name, moan by nature

As corrupt as the rest of the tory scum...

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

"This is just one example of corrupt politicians. They all drink at the same bars you know. Some are just more blatant and obvious than others. People should be looking at ripping the whole corrupt system out."

They should. But they will just vote for more of the same.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I want that money back, it’s our money, she’s a thief.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I want that money back, it’s our money, she’s a thief."

I bet we'll never see a penny of the tens of millions she took...

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

Oh i love poking my head in here every now and then funny as fuck, see its looking more and more like a circle jerk in the politics forum now, are u gona start arguing amongst your selves now seems as most other postes have now been banned from the forums? Keep it up though i can always do with a laugh

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Eh?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Eh? "

I'm right with you there lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Eh?

I'm right with you there lol"

It was a very confusing post

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

"Oh i love poking my head in here every now and then funny as fuck, see its looking more and more like a circle jerk in the politics forum now, are u gona start arguing amongst your selves now seems as most other postes have now been banned from the forums? Keep it up though i can always do with a laugh "

You are clearly happy with people ripping you off and taking your money?

You should keep your eyes peeled for that lovely lady from Nigeria who will email you offering to share her $millions with you. She seems really nice

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

You are clearly happy with people ripping you off and taking your money?

You should keep your eyes peeled for that lovely lady from Nigeria who will email you offering to share her $millions with you. She seems really nice

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ripping me off? Oh u meen like every goverment since i started working lol

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

"Eh?

I'm right with you there lol

It was a very confusing post

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whats confusing about it? The politics forum has become a circle jerk/echo chamber but hey thats what happens when u get those you dont like banned, but crack on mate your entertaining if nothing else

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Eh?

I'm right with you there lol

It was a very confusing post

whats confusing about it? The politics forum has become a circle jerk/echo chamber but hey thats what happens when u get those you dont like banned, but crack on mate your entertaining if nothing else"

What has this got to do with Michelle Mone ??

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

Baroness Mone is under investigation by the Dept of Health.

Labour are tabling a debate today on PPE contracts.

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By *eachcplCouple
over a year ago

blackpool/preston/normandy france

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By *eachcplCouple
over a year ago

blackpool/preston/normandy france

Hancock is making a big noise about Mone to deflect the fact he gave the landlord of his local pub £3 million for PPE that never appeared. The whole thing was a disgrace. There are are plenty of people who deserve a prison sentence for fraud

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

"Hancock is making a big noise about Mone to deflect the fact he gave the landlord of his local pub £3 million for PPE that never appeared. The whole thing was a disgrace. There are are plenty of people who deserve a prison sentence for fraud"

Thought it was a £20m contract to supply test tubes (despite just being a pub landlord) but yeah...the little piggies all had their snouts in the trough stealing taxpayers money to enrich themselves!

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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago

Longridge

Did you miss a Zero..

The NCA investigation is into PPE Medpro, a company that secured more than £200m in government contracts near the start of the pandemic without public tender.

Of which, she received a personal transfer of £69 Million if I heard correctly.

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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago

Longridge

I've done the National Lottery for over 20yrs and won little.

I should have joined the Conservative Party instead..

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

Looks like Baroness Mone is excusing herself from the HoL for the foreseeable future!

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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago

Longridge

She's innocent.. She's told us nothing has been done wrong.

Tory peer Michelle Mone is taking a leave of absence from the Lords "to clear her name of the allegations that have been unjustly levelled against her", her spokesman has said.

Least she won't be short for cash while doing so.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Feels like Mone is tip of the iceberg stuff. The Tories must be desperate for this story to go away...

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

"Did you miss a Zero..

The NCA investigation is into PPE Medpro, a company that secured more than £200m in government contracts near the start of the pandemic without public tender.

Of which, she received a personal transfer of £69 Million if I heard correctly."

If you are replying to me I was referring to Matt Hancock’s pub landlord mate not PPE Medpro (I raised that on my own thread weeks ago)

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

"Did you miss a Zero..

The NCA investigation is into PPE Medpro, a company that secured more than £200m in government contracts near the start of the pandemic without public tender.

Of which, she received a personal transfer of £69 Million if I heard correctly.

If you are replying to me I was referring to Matt Hancock’s pub landlord mate not PPE Medpro (I raised that on my own thread weeks ago) "

https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/politics/1385685

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

You are clearly happy with people ripping you off and taking your money?

You should keep your eyes peeled for that lovely lady from Nigeria who will email you offering to share her $millions with you. She seems really nice

ripping me off? Oh u meen like every goverment since i started working lol"

So you think paying tax is being ripped off?

For me, call me old fashion, but I expect my tax to be used to fund public services. I do not expect my tax to line the pockets of party donors, friends, family or cronies of MPs and Peers. But that’s just me

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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago

Longridge

Slight correction- she embezzled £29m, not £69m I originally suggested. At least that isn't so bad now!!

Seem 'Taking Leave" to spend time with family and clear her name us actually a smoke-screen to avoid being Sanctioned- as they cannot Sanctioned unless sitting.

She last voted in April and appeared in the house 12 times since - so hardly a busy, committed Lady to our country.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Slight correction- she embezzled £29m, not £69m I originally suggested. At least that isn't so bad now!!

Seem 'Taking Leave" to spend time with family and clear her name us actually a smoke-screen to avoid being Sanctioned- as they cannot Sanctioned unless sitting.

She last voted in April and appeared in the house 12 times since - so hardly a busy, committed Lady to our country."

Ah but in fairness she certainly seems committed to getting shitloads of money for herself at the expense of the taxpayer.

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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago

Longridge

I just love the "little piggies all had their snouts in the trough" anology.

10/10 for that one..

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

The Lords Standards Commisioners have the power to block her leave of absence.

The Goverment whips have instructed their MPs not to obstruct Labour's amendment to publish the Medpro contracts and correspondence.

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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago

Longridge

Let's hope they do..

Goverment won't try to stop as they'll push her under the bus and claim they knew nothing about it.

I hope they've frozen everything ready for Proceeds of Crime recovery then go after all the others driving around in fast cars, living in big houses at the expense of the UK population.

Let's not also forget the true victims in this - the Doctors, Nurses and Care Home workers who had to downgrade PPE they used. Who were using defective PPE and having to make a single mask last a whole shift.

I know many, I was regulary sent photos of PPE boxes with expired Use By Date with new labels stuck over with new stickers with dates to make them look as though it was in date and fresh.

They should all be found, asset stripped and locked up.

If Jeremy Cunt had not run down NHS (especially pandemic) stocks in the name of saving money while at the same time, shafting Nurses with a bad pay deal while he was Health Minister.

The scrabble for PPE may not have ever happened!

It was panicking to fix a problem of their own making that led to this from the outset.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Also Tory greed led to a lot of this.

Most people when a pandemic was in the offing would look to save as many lives as poss.

It seems many Tories looked at the coming pandemic & saw a chance to get rich.

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By *uddy laneMan
over a year ago

dudley

I am getting the feeling some people do not agree with the democratic rules

based process of the United kingdoms entitled.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I am getting the feeling some people do not agree with the democratic rules

based process of the United kingdoms entitled.

I read that 3 times. Still not sure what you're trying to say.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

This whole thing could escalate a hell of a lot & implicate many dodgy people in & round government.

Fingers crossed Gove & Hancock get pulled into this fully. They'll try to weasel out if it any way they can.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am getting the feeling some people do not agree with the democratic rules

based process of the United kingdoms entitled.

I read that 3 times. Still not sure what you're trying to say."

I think your meant to guess the missing words.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am getting the feeling some people do not agree with the democratic rules

based process of the United kingdoms entitled.

I read that 3 times. Still not sure what you're trying to say.

I think your meant to guess the missing words."

Reminds me of that saying... Write d*unk, Edit sober.

A tip i am sure a lot of us relate to.

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

The Guardian has more revelations this morning.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"The Guardian has more revelations this morning."

Just when you think how slimy a couple are they and then more comes out, they are complete low life's..

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By *tevie blunderMan
over a year ago

oldham

Am i missing something, but how come these people seem to be paid all these millions BEFORE anything was produced? Surely they should have been paid on delivery and when the PPE etc had been examined n passed!!

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

"The Guardian has more revelations this morning.

Just when you think how slimy a couple are they and then more comes out, they are complete low life's.."

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"The Guardian has more revelations this morning.

Just when you think how slimy a couple are they and then more comes out, they are complete low life's..

Not surprised..

Scumbags..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Am i missing something, but how come these people seem to be paid all these millions BEFORE anything was produced? Surely they should have been paid on delivery and when the PPE etc had been examined n passed!!"

Government incompetence

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

Government incompetence "

Not incompetence. There is nothing accidental about what happened.

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By *uddy laneMan
over a year ago

dudley

Government incompetence

Not incompetence. There is nothing accidental about what happened."

WAKE UP! they have been

acting this out for hundreds and hundreds of years everything is planned meticulously.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

This might be big enough to topple a government in normal times. Feels like there's so much to this story & so many high profile people waiting to get pulled into it.

But look at all the shit this gov have pulled already. Yet they're still there.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Government incompetence

Not incompetence. There is nothing accidental about what happened.

WAKE UP! they have been

acting this out for hundreds and hundreds of years everything is planned meticulously."

Planned meticulously for thousands of years? What? And by whom?

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By *uddy laneMan
over a year ago

dudley

Government incompetence

Not incompetence. There is nothing accidental about what happened.

WAKE UP! they have been

acting this out for hundreds and hundreds of years everything is planned meticulously.

Planned meticulously for thousands of years? What? And by whom?"

Thousands a bit dramatic when I wrote hundreds, i have said before never believe what you think cuz it's all lies coming out. Anyway this must be your first realisation of corruption from the political class.

A clue for you

the conservatives want to rescue themselves from the government debt they have created and are doing everything they can to become unelectable and guess what the others will be there with a rescue plan and a piece of paper for the voter to have there say with an X.

Hold on ain't that how it has always played out.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Government incompetence

Not incompetence. There is nothing accidental about what happened.

WAKE UP! they have been

acting this out for hundreds and hundreds of years everything is planned meticulously.

Planned meticulously for thousands of years? What? And by whom?

A clue for you

Hold on ain't that how it has always played out.

Never believe what I think, eh? Um... ok.

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By *ne Pass drillingMan
over a year ago

Northampton

"The Guardian has more revelations this morning.

Just when you think how slimy a couple are they and then more comes out, they are complete low life's..

Barrowman is a shady character indeed. Allegedly he was involved in a company(s) handling payroll for freelance contractors and agency workers. They were not paying the correct tax to HMRC and the workers were getting their money via a “loan” rather than a taxable salary. Guess who HMRC went after and penalised (clue - it wasn’t the company handling the payroll)"
. Any worker or contactor involved in such a scheme would have known that the basis of such a scheme was doubtfull. They still took a chance and you would expect HMRC to go after the beneficiaries who were the employees The company handling the payroll were doing so in accordance with their clients instructions . HMRC have done exactly what most people would expect.

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By *uddy laneMan
over a year ago

dudley

Government incompetence

Not incompetence. There is nothing accidental about what happened.

WAKE UP! they have been

acting this out for hundreds and hundreds of years everything is planned meticulously.

Planned meticulously for thousands of years? What? And by whom?

A clue for you

Hold on ain't that how it has always played out.

Never believe what I think, eh? Um... ok."

If you come out with stuff that wasn't wrote.

Anyway it is part of a quote by Michelle mone on her Insta page. Understanding the subject matter is important.

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

So I believe that last week a woman was sentenced to 150 hours of community service for falsely claiming £19,500 in Child Benefits. On top of community service she also has to pay it all back.

This means Michelle Mone owes £28,800,000 and 216,000 hours community service. That is 108 years full time.

Wonder what will happen to her?

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By *sussexyMan
over a year ago

Lewes

The good news is that the millions was shared between her and her kids.

So if they all start now they could maybe make a significant dent in that community service.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The government are to Sue the firm linked to Mone for £122 million

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By *ne Pass drillingMan
over a year ago

Northampton

"So I believe that last week a woman was sentenced to 150 hours of community service for falsely claiming £19,500 in Child Benefits. On top of community service she also has to pay it all back.

This means Michelle Mone owes £28,800,000 and 216,000 hours community service. That is 108 years full time.

Wonder what will happen to her?"
It is a rather foolish comparison. The person claiming child benefit knew that they were committing a fraudulent act and in essence stealing from the tax payer and ordinary working people. . The issues around Michelle Mone centre around fulfilment of contracts and disclosure which is a civil as opposed to a criminal matter. We would need to know full details of the contract undertaken by Michelle Mone and whether her company or associatea intend to pay back any of the monies earned on the contact.

The child benefit case was a straight forward fraudulent act and the person engaging in it published.

Civil / contract law is an entirely different matter. Should the government believe that the terms of the contact were breached the would seek to recover the costs of the unfulfilled parts of the contract .

During the Covid crisis we had to take all steps necessary to save lives and pay whatever the going rate was to secure PPE. The audit commission will have examined the contacts in detail. I will adhere to the normal process and assume people are innocent unto proved guilty.

You appear to want to by pass the normal process and assume that someone is guilty regardless of any evidence or facts.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

"So I believe that last week a woman was sentenced to 150 hours of community service for falsely claiming £19,500 in Child Benefits. On top of community service she also has to pay it all back.

This means Michelle Mone owes £28,800,000 and 216,000 hours community service. That is 108 years full time.

Wonder what will happen to her? It is a rather foolish comparison. The person claiming child benefit knew that they were committing a fraudulent act and in essence stealing from the tax payer and ordinary working people. . The issues around Michelle Mone centre around fulfilment of contracts and disclosure which is a civil as opposed to a criminal matter. We would need to know full details of the contract undertaken by Michelle Mone and whether her company or associatea intend to pay back any of the monies earned on the contact.

The child benefit case was a straight forward fraudulent act and the person engaging in it published.

You appear to want to by pass the normal process and assume that someone is guilty regardless of any evidence or facts. "

Yes quite right. Multi millionaires shouldn't face consequences for ripping off the British public by 10s of millions of pounds. We need to concentrate on poor people dodging small amounts of tax.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Oh Pat's back with a new name?

What amazes me is the time he puts into writing such utter shite.

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

Pat it is kind of funny when you try to defend the Tories but defending tax evading thieving bastards who exploited their privileged position to enrich themselves...nah!

Just remember when Hunt and Sunak bang on about the £50bn black hole in government finances, that up to £9bn of that can be attributed to the write off on substandard or undelivered PPE.

Also remember that the government insisted on setting up a VIP procurement channel that enabled Tory Ministers, MPs and Peers to recommend companies they had connections to or knowledge of that also circumvented due diligence normally undertaken by the Civil Service.

Also remember that companies coming via the VIP route were ten times more likely to secure a contract.

Also remember that many of these companies had no prior expertise or experience in the sourcing, manufacturing or supply of PPE.

Don’t forget that many of those companies were actually set up in the weeks prior to the VIP scheme being established and that many of them were registered in tax havens such as the Isle of Man.

One such company was MedPro PPE set up by a chap called Doug Barrowman. He has an interesting and chequered history. MedPro PPE secured a £200m PPE contract from which Barrowman made £65m in profit (nice margin hey) all of which was paid offshore in IoM so no tax paid.

MedPro PPE secured the contract via the VIP lane after extensive lobbying by Tory Peer Baroness Mone. She and her lawyers claimed she had no connection to MedPro PPE and would not personally benefit from the contract. Except this was not true!

Baroness Mone is married to Doug Barrowman and the Trust Fund that she and her kids benefit from (which is registered in the IoM and attracts no tax liabilities) was paid £29m from the profits received from MedPro PPE.

Baroness Mone put forward this company to the VIP lane to supply PPE equipment……FIVE DAYS BEFORE THAT COMPANY BECAME INCORPORATED!!!!

Seems like there actually always has been plenty of money, but only when it is being paid to cronies, donors, friends and family!

This is the tip of a huge iceberg. The taxpayers of the UK have been fleeced under the smokescreen of Covid and are now having to foot the bill to put the money back.

Johnson presided over the largest transfer of state assets (in this case “money”) to private hands in history.

Thieving crooked bastards!

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

BTW Pat your beloved Tory Govt (admittedly led by Sunak the person you called a traitor to your precious Johnson) clearly think something is wrong as they are suing Barrowman.

If you want to know more about Barrowman search google for “loan charge scandal”

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

Further...

Spanish prosecutors are seeking custodial sentences for seven British businessmen, including the husband of Tory peer Michelle Mone, who have been charged with fraud and tax evasion.

Barrowman’s Knox Group includes AML an umbrella company set up that pushed agency workers unknowingly into a tax avoidance scheme that HMRC later declared illegal. Of course to date HMRC have pursued the workers for the unpaid tax rather than the umbrella. This “loan charge” has resulted in nine suicides of workers pursued by HMRC.

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By *ne Pass drillingMan
over a year ago

Northampton

"Pat it is kind of funny when you try to defend the Tories but defending tax evading thieving bastards who exploited their privileged position to enrich themselves...nah!