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The Brexit Hornet nest has been kicked again.

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By *bernath OP   Couple
over a year ago

Gloucestershire

Well it seems the Right wing press are up in arms again claiming the government is pursuing a “Swiss style” arrangement with the EU. The ERG are getting all in a tiz that we are going to lose the benefits of Brexit, and have got all mental about it.

Is this just hot air? to draw lines again? Or is it the pragmatic approach to an unfinished brexit?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Politicians never wanted us to leave in the first place !!

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields


"Politicians never wanted us to leave in the first place !!"

Some didn't. Some did.

The ERG want the most brutal damaging brexit possible. So what's really worrying them now?

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By *reenleavesCouple
over a year ago

North Wales

We can't lose benefits that never existed in the first place

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By *orleymanMan
over a year ago

Leeds


"Well it seems the Right wing press are up in arms again claiming the government is pursuing a “Swiss style” arrangement with the EU. The ERG are getting all in a tiz that we are going to lose the benefits of Brexit, and have got all mental about it.

Is this just hot air? to draw lines again? Or is it the pragmatic approach to an unfinished brexit?"

A Swiss style arrangement would involve FOM and permanent alignment.(which would negate cptpp accession)

They just want rishi sunak pummeled by the tory electorate. And his rating dropping.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Politicians never wanted us to leave in the first place !!"

Does this include Boris and his government in 2019

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Supporting Pavlov and his dogs

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By *eroy1000Man
over a year ago

milton keynes


"Well it seems the Right wing press are up in arms again claiming the government is pursuing a “Swiss style” arrangement with the EU. The ERG are getting all in a tiz that we are going to lose the benefits of Brexit, and have got all mental about it.

Is this just hot air? to draw lines again? Or is it the pragmatic approach to an unfinished brexit?"

Looks like it has been ruled out by Rishi, at least that's what I read but politicians may not always be 100% truthful

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We will be in again eventually. We'll sign up to whatever we need to, to survive. But of course we'll lose our veto. Brexit may actually have promoted European federalism. Not being in means we can't stop it. We'll be an associate country following EU rules. Ironic, really.

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By *oubleswing2019Man
over a year ago

Colchester


"Brexit may actually have promoted European federalism. Not being in means we can't stop it. We'll be an associate country following EU rules. Ironic, really."

Ironic indeed.

And if the nations of the EU want to stand any chance for the future, they absolutely need to tighten up federalism right across the board.

Quaint little countries with quaint individual laws may have sounded nice in the 50's and 60's for holidaymakers, but that's a bygone age.

This is the era of the Superpower and Europe needs to redouble its efforts to deal with a resurgent Russian Federation, with one eye ready to meet China further down the line, whilst keeping the USA at bay as well.

The litmus test is, "Would Putin like it ?" and if the answer is no, then it's definitely in Europe's interests to pursue.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Brexit may actually have promoted European federalism. Not being in means we can't stop it. We'll be an associate country following EU rules. Ironic, really.

Ironic indeed.

And if the nations of the EU want to stand any chance for the future, they absolutely need to tighten up federalism right across the board.

Quaint little countries with quaint individual laws may have sounded nice in the 50's and 60's for holidaymakers, but that's a bygone age.

This is the era of the Superpower and Europe needs to redouble its efforts to deal with a resurgent Russian Federation, with one eye ready to meet China further down the line, whilst keeping the USA at bay as well.

The litmus test is, "Would Putin like it ?" and if the answer is no, then it's definitely in Europe's interests to pursue."

Not to mention being able to say no to the US on things like tainted meat and cornsugar filled food.

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai


"Brexit may actually have promoted European federalism. Not being in means we can't stop it. We'll be an associate country following EU rules. Ironic, really.

Ironic indeed.

And if the nations of the EU want to stand any chance for the future, they absolutely need to tighten up federalism right across the board.

Quaint little countries with quaint individual laws may have sounded nice in the 50's and 60's for holidaymakers, but that's a bygone age.

This is the era of the Superpower and Europe needs to redouble its efforts to deal with a resurgent Russian Federation, with one eye ready to meet China further down the line, whilst keeping the USA at bay as well.

The litmus test is, "Would Putin like it ?" and if the answer is no, then it's definitely in Europe's interests to pursue.

Not to mention being able to say no to the US on things like tainted meat and cornsugar filled food."

Crap food is cheaper. This was always the main benefit of Brexit , being able to buy shit from the US where there’s no standards.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields


"Brexit may actually have promoted European federalism. Not being in means we can't stop it. We'll be an associate country following EU rules. Ironic, really.

Ironic indeed.

And if the nations of the EU want to stand any chance for the future, they absolutely need to tighten up federalism right across the board.

Quaint little countries with quaint individual laws may have sounded nice in the 50's and 60's for holidaymakers, but that's a bygone age.

This is the era of the Superpower and Europe needs to redouble its efforts to deal with a resurgent Russian Federation, with one eye ready to meet China further down the line, whilst keeping the USA at bay as well.

The litmus test is, "Would Putin like it ?" and if the answer is no, then it's definitely in Europe's interests to pursue.

Not to mention being able to say no to the US on things like tainted meat and cornsugar filled food.

Crap food is cheaper. This was always the main benefit of Brexit , being able to buy shit from the US where there’s no standards."

It's a benefit for the US/AUS produce industry. And a disbenefit for British people and British farmers.

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