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"Sounds like Braverman deliberately did not book alternate accomodation, resulting in a serious worsening of conditions @ Manston. Also unlawful detention." That will please the right wing racists,  | |||
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"I doubt whether anyone aside from the usual suspects is going to care about conditions at Manston. They have come of their own volition for economic advantage. If they don't like it then they should return to France." Some people are indeed too shockingly ignorant to care. | |||
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"I doubt whether anyone aside from the usual suspects is going to care about conditions at Manston. They have come of their own volition for economic advantage. If they don't like it then they should return to France." The local Tory MP cares , | |||
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"I doubt whether anyone aside from the usual suspects is going to care about conditions at Manston. They have come of their own volition for economic advantage. If they don't like it then they should return to France. The local Tory MP cares , " An independent border inspector also cared, going so far as to say he was left speechless by the really dangerous situation in Manston. | |||
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"I doubt whether anyone aside from the usual suspects is going to care about conditions at Manston. They have come of their own volition for economic advantage. If they don't like it then they should return to France. The local Tory MP cares , An independent border inspector also cared, going so far as to say he was left speechless by the really dangerous situation in Manston." "Independent Border Inspector". Hmm I wonder what the politics of such a person might be.... | |||
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"I doubt whether anyone aside from the usual suspects is going to care about conditions at Manston. They have come of their own volition for economic advantage. If they don't like it then they should return to France. The local Tory MP cares , An independent border inspector also cared, going so far as to say he was left speechless by the really dangerous situation in Manston. "Independent Border Inspector". Hmm I wonder what the politics of such a person might be...." He's ex military + was appointed to the job under the Tories. Keep on digging... | |||
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"I doubt whether anyone aside from the usual suspects is going to care about conditions at Manston. They have come of their own volition for economic advantage. If they don't like it then they should return to France. The local Tory MP cares , An independent border inspector also cared, going so far as to say he was left speechless by the really dangerous situation in Manston. "Independent Border Inspector". Hmm I wonder what the politics of such a person might be.... He's ex military + was appointed to the job under the Tories. Keep on digging..." He also called the conditions @ Manston wretched. | |||
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"I doubt whether anyone aside from the usual suspects is going to care about conditions at Manston. They have come of their own volition for economic advantage. If they don't like it then they should return to France. The local Tory MP cares , An independent border inspector also cared, going so far as to say he was left speechless by the really dangerous situation in Manston. "Independent Border Inspector". Hmm I wonder what the politics of such a person might be.... He's ex military + was appointed to the job under the Tories. Keep on digging... He also called the conditions @ Manston wretched." From an ex military man? This will confuse the right wing racists | |||
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"I doubt whether anyone aside from the usual suspects is going to care about conditions at Manston. They have come of their own volition for economic advantage. If they don't like it then they should return to France." Menston is a triage facility.. which means by law they are supposed to be moved on from their within 24 hrs….. If she stopped the booking hotels policy knowing it would back up the facility, then she is deliberately breaking the law! | |||
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"I doubt whether anyone aside from the usual suspects is going to care about conditions at Manston. They have come of their own volition for economic advantage. If they don't like it then they should return to France. Menston is a triage facility.. which means by law they are supposed to be moved on from their within 24 hrs….. If she stopped the booking hotels policy knowing it would back up the facility, then she is deliberately breaking the law! " O dear, and we all know the Tories are the party of law and order,  | |||
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"I doubt whether anyone aside from the usual suspects is going to care about conditions at Manston. They have come of their own volition for economic advantage. If they don't like it then they should return to France. Menston is a triage facility.. which means by law they are supposed to be moved on from their within 24 hrs….. If she stopped the booking hotels policy knowing it would back up the facility, then she is deliberately breaking the law! " It is potentially a smoking gun. I notice Patel + Shapps have both quickly stated they both followed advice + booked accomodation when home secretary... | |||
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"I doubt whether anyone aside from the usual suspects is going to care about conditions at Manston. They have come of their own volition for economic advantage. If they don't like it then they should return to France. Some people are indeed too shockingly ignorant to care." why should people care as said they made there own way here no sunny upland's | |||
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"I doubt whether anyone aside from the usual suspects is going to care about conditions at Manston. They have come of their own volition for economic advantage. If they don't like it then they should return to France. Some people are indeed too shockingly ignorant to care.why should people care as said they made there own way here no sunny upland's " So you don't care that kids are being kept in an overcrowded prison under the auspices of our government? | |||
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"I doubt whether anyone aside from the usual suspects is going to care about conditions at Manston. They have come of their own volition for economic advantage. If they don't like it then they should return to France. The local Tory MP cares , An independent border inspector also cared, going so far as to say he was left speechless by the really dangerous situation in Manston. "Independent Border Inspector". Hmm I wonder what the politics of such a person might be.... He's ex military + was appointed to the job under the Tories. Keep on digging... He also called the conditions @ Manston wretched." im sure they've seen worse if they have fled there own country | |||
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"I doubt whether anyone aside from the usual suspects is going to care about conditions at Manston. They have come of their own volition for economic advantage. If they don't like it then they should return to France. Some people are indeed too shockingly ignorant to care.why should people care as said they made there own way here no sunny upland's So you don't care that kids are being kept in an overcrowded prison under the auspices of our government?" no do there parents when they put them in a boat | |||
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"I doubt whether anyone aside from the usual suspects is going to care about conditions at Manston. They have come of their own volition for economic advantage. If they don't like it then they should return to France. Some people are indeed too shockingly ignorant to care.why should people care as said they made there own way here no sunny upland's So you don't care that kids are being kept in an overcrowded prison under the auspices of our government?no do there parents when they put them in a boat " Just to be clear: you're supporting the unlawful imprisonment of children in inhumane conditions by our government. do you even understand how fucked up that is? | |||
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"I doubt whether anyone aside from the usual suspects is going to care about conditions at Manston. They have come of their own volition for economic advantage. If they don't like it then they should return to France. The local Tory MP cares , An independent border inspector also cared, going so far as to say he was left speechless by the really dangerous situation in Manston. "Independent Border Inspector". Hmm I wonder what the politics of such a person might be.... He's ex military + was appointed to the job under the Tories. Keep on digging... He also called the conditions @ Manston wretched.im sure they've seen worse if they have fled there own country " And? Are you wishing these people unnecessary hardship and suffering just because they have ‘seen worse’ ? | |||
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"I doubt whether anyone aside from the usual suspects is going to care about conditions at Manston. They have come of their own volition for economic advantage. If they don't like it then they should return to France. Menston is a triage facility.. which means by law they are supposed to be moved on from their within 24 hrs….. If she stopped the booking hotels policy knowing it would back up the facility, then she is deliberately breaking the law! " The law needs changing. Everyone who entered the UK illegally on a small boat is, by definition, a criminal therefore should be locked up not put in a hotel. As for the conditions at Manston, why should we care? Expand the facility and keep everyone there. Their asylum applications should be assessed (and rejected) quickly so that they can be deported. | |||
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"It's worth noting there are apparently young kids in what is now effectively an overcrowded prison." Kids! Oh my god we can’t have that can we. Are you sure these ‘kids’ are not the grown men (early 20’s) that make false claims of being 15? With daily stabbings and now running street gun battles on a frequent basis, how terrible to have kids who are here uninvited held up in an illegal immigrant processing centre. | |||
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"I doubt whether anyone aside from the usual suspects is going to care about conditions at Manston. They have come of their own volition for economic advantage. If they don't like it then they should return to France. Menston is a triage facility.. which means by law they are supposed to be moved on from their within 24 hrs….. If she stopped the booking hotels policy knowing it would back up the facility, then she is deliberately breaking the law! The law needs changing. Everyone who entered the UK illegally on a small boat is, by definition, a criminal therefore should be locked up not put in a hotel. As for the conditions at Manston, why should we care? Expand the facility and keep everyone there. Their asylum applications should be assessed (and rejected) quickly so that they can be deported." The law is the law, wether it needs changing or not is irrelevant, that defence wouldn’t stand up in court | |||
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"It's worth noting there are apparently young kids in what is now effectively an overcrowded prison. Kids! Oh my god we can’t have that can we. Are you sure these ‘kids’ are not the grown men (early 20’s) that make false claims of being 15? With daily stabbings and now running street gun battles on a frequent basis, how terrible to have kids who are here uninvited held up in an illegal immigrant processing centre." I haven’t seen any street battles around here? | |||
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"It's worth noting there are apparently young kids in what is now effectively an overcrowded prison. Kids! Oh my god we can’t have that can we. Are you sure these ‘kids’ are not the grown men (early 20’s) that make false claims of being 15? With daily stabbings and now running street gun battles on a frequent basis, how terrible to have kids who are here uninvited held up in an illegal immigrant processing centre." There are pics of these kids at Manston. If they're pretending, they're doing a remarkable job of pretending to be v short indeed... | |||
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"It's worth noting there are apparently young kids in what is now effectively an overcrowded prison. Kids! Oh my god we can’t have that can we. Are you sure these ‘kids’ are not the grown men (early 20’s) that make false claims of being 15? With daily stabbings and now running street gun battles on a frequent basis, how terrible to have kids who are here uninvited held up in an illegal immigrant processing centre. There are pics of these kids at Manston. If they're pretending, they're doing a remarkable job of pretending to be v short indeed..." Tbf , they might be evil dwarfs coming ‘over ere’ to commit crimes | |||
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"There's always so much confused anger over immigration from the indoctrinated. It could so easily be solved by reading." Not immigration. ‘Illegal’ immigration. Including all the scams. Why do so many deliberately try to mislead by saying ‘immigration’ ? | |||
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"There's always so much confused anger over immigration from the indoctrinated. It could so easily be solved by reading. Not immigration. ‘Illegal’ immigration. Including all the scams. Why do so many deliberately try to mislead by saying ‘immigration’ ?" I recommend you read what I posted above. | |||
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"There's always so much confused anger over immigration from the indoctrinated. It could so easily be solved by reading. Not immigration. ‘Illegal’ immigration. Including all the scams. Why do so many deliberately try to mislead by saying ‘immigration’ ?" These brave men and women have fled from war and persecution , we should be glad they chose the UK , we need workers to help the country back on its feet, | |||
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"There's always so much confused anger over immigration from the indoctrinated. It could so easily be solved by reading. Not immigration. ‘Illegal’ immigration. Including all the scams. Why do so many deliberately try to mislead by saying ‘immigration’ ? These brave men and women have fled from war and persecution , we should be glad they chose the UK , we need workers to help the country back on its feet, " Back onto its knees. 1 step at a time. | |||
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"There's always so much confused anger over immigration from the indoctrinated. It could so easily be solved by reading. Not immigration. ‘Illegal’ immigration. Including all the scams. Why do so many deliberately try to mislead by saying ‘immigration’ ? These brave men and women have fled from war and persecution , we should be glad they chose the UK , we need workers to help the country back on its feet, Back onto its knees. 1 step at a time." Yes, I am glad these brave men and women decided to choose the UK when we are on our knees, just like the amazing wind rush generation after WW2 | |||
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"I doubt whether anyone aside from the usual suspects is going to care about conditions at Manston. They have come of their own volition for economic advantage. If they don't like it then they should return to France. Some people are indeed too shockingly ignorant to care.why should people care as said they made there own way here no sunny upland's So you don't care that kids are being kept in an overcrowded prison under the auspices of our government?no do there parents when they put them in a boat Just to be clear: you're supporting the unlawful imprisonment of children in inhumane conditions by our government. do you even understand how fucked up that is?" yes and I really don't care if it finally gets through to them | |||
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"I doubt whether anyone aside from the usual suspects is going to care about conditions at Manston. They have come of their own volition for economic advantage. If they don't like it then they should return to France. Some people are indeed too shockingly ignorant to care.why should people care as said they made there own way here no sunny upland's So you don't care that kids are being kept in an overcrowded prison under the auspices of our government?no do there parents when they put them in a boat Just to be clear: you're supporting the unlawful imprisonment of children in inhumane conditions by our government. do you even understand how fucked up that is? yes and I really don't care if it finally gets through to them " Why are you supporting child abuse?  | |||
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"There's always so much confused anger over immigration from the indoctrinated. It could so easily be solved by reading. Not immigration. ‘Illegal’ immigration. Including all the scams. Why do so many deliberately try to mislead by saying ‘immigration’ ? These brave men and women have fled from war and persecution , we should be glad they chose the UK , we need workers to help the country back on its feet, Back onto its knees. 1 step at a time. Yes, I am glad these brave men and women decided to choose the UK when we are on our knees, just like the amazing wind rush generation after WW2" You are either peddling a lie, or you have been misled. | |||
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"I doubt whether anyone aside from the usual suspects is going to care about conditions at Manston. They have come of their own volition for economic advantage. If they don't like it then they should return to France. Some people are indeed too shockingly ignorant to care.why should people care as said they made there own way here no sunny upland's So you don't care that kids are being kept in an overcrowded prison under the auspices of our government?no do there parents when they put them in a boat Just to be clear: you're supporting the unlawful imprisonment of children in inhumane conditions by our government. do you even understand how fucked up that is? yes and I really don't care if it finally gets through to them " That'll teach those blameless kids, eh? | |||
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"There's always so much confused anger over immigration from the indoctrinated. It could so easily be solved by reading. Not immigration. ‘Illegal’ immigration. Including all the scams. Why do so many deliberately try to mislead by saying ‘immigration’ ? These brave men and women have fled from war and persecution , we should be glad they chose the UK , we need workers to help the country back on its feet, Back onto its knees. 1 step at a time. Yes, I am glad these brave men and women decided to choose the UK when we are on our knees, just like the amazing wind rush generation after WW2 You are either peddling a lie, or you have been misled. " Not at all, like you said earlier, we have a proud tradition of helping asylum seekers, we need them as much as they need us , they can help rebuild this broken country . | |||
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"I doubt whether anyone aside from the usual suspects is going to care about conditions at Manston. They have come of their own volition for economic advantage. If they don't like it then they should return to France. Some people are indeed too shockingly ignorant to care.why should people care as said they made there own way here no sunny upland's So you don't care that kids are being kept in an overcrowded prison under the auspices of our government?no do there parents when they put them in a boat Just to be clear: you're supporting the unlawful imprisonment of children in inhumane conditions by our government. do you even understand how fucked up that is? yes and I really don't care if it finally gets through to them That'll teach those blameless kids, eh?" why do you care what happens there parents don't | |||
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"I doubt whether anyone aside from the usual suspects is going to care about conditions at Manston. They have come of their own volition for economic advantage. If they don't like it then they should return to France. Some people are indeed too shockingly ignorant to care.why should people care as said they made there own way here no sunny upland's So you don't care that kids are being kept in an overcrowded prison under the auspices of our government?no do there parents when they put them in a boat Just to be clear: you're supporting the unlawful imprisonment of children in inhumane conditions by our government. do you even understand how fucked up that is? yes and I really don't care if it finally gets through to them That'll teach those blameless kids, eh?why do you care what happens there parents don't " Why are you supporting child abuse? Genuine question? | |||
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"There's always so much confused anger over immigration from the indoctrinated. It could so easily be solved by reading. Not immigration. ‘Illegal’ immigration. Including all the scams. Why do so many deliberately try to mislead by saying ‘immigration’ ? These brave men and women have fled from war and persecution , we should be glad they chose the UK , we need workers to help the country back on its feet, Back onto its knees. 1 step at a time. Yes, I am glad these brave men and women decided to choose the UK when we are on our knees, just like the amazing wind rush generation after WW2 You are either peddling a lie, or you have been misled. Not at all, like you said earlier, we have a proud tradition of helping asylum seekers, we need them as much as they need us , they can help rebuild this broken country . " Why do you say that the Windrush immigrants were ‘amazing’? | |||
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"There's always so much confused anger over immigration from the indoctrinated. It could so easily be solved by reading. Not immigration. ‘Illegal’ immigration. Including all the scams. Why do so many deliberately try to mislead by saying ‘immigration’ ? These brave men and women have fled from war and persecution , we should be glad they chose the UK , we need workers to help the country back on its feet, Back onto its knees. 1 step at a time. Yes, I am glad these brave men and women decided to choose the UK when we are on our knees, just like the amazing wind rush generation after WW2 You are either peddling a lie, or you have been misled. Not at all, like you said earlier, we have a proud tradition of helping asylum seekers, we need them as much as they need us , they can help rebuild this broken country . Why do you say that the Windrush immigrants were ‘amazing’? " They are, brave hard working people, choosing to help rebuild a broken nation, | |||
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"There's always so much confused anger over immigration from the indoctrinated. It could so easily be solved by reading. Not immigration. ‘Illegal’ immigration. Including all the scams. Why do so many deliberately try to mislead by saying ‘immigration’ ? These brave men and women have fled from war and persecution , we should be glad they chose the UK , we need workers to help the country back on its feet, Back onto its knees. 1 step at a time. Yes, I am glad these brave men and women decided to choose the UK when we are on our knees, just like the amazing wind rush generation after WW2 You are either peddling a lie, or you have been misled. Not at all, like you said earlier, we have a proud tradition of helping asylum seekers, we need them as much as they need us , they can help rebuild this broken country . Why do you say that the Windrush immigrants were ‘amazing’? They are, brave hard working people, choosing to help rebuild a broken nation, "You know that’s rubbish, we’ve covered it before. They weren’t coming here to help rebuild the UK. They came as there were jobs and a better chance to make a living rather than being unemployed at home. They came to help themselves. Nothing wrong with that as the rules at the time allowed it. | |||
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"There's always so much confused anger over immigration from the indoctrinated. It could so easily be solved by reading. Not immigration. ‘Illegal’ immigration. Including all the scams. Why do so many deliberately try to mislead by saying ‘immigration’ ? These brave men and women have fled from war and persecution , we should be glad they chose the UK , we need workers to help the country back on its feet, Back onto its knees. 1 step at a time. Yes, I am glad these brave men and women decided to choose the UK when we are on our knees, just like the amazing wind rush generation after WW2 You are either peddling a lie, or you have been misled. Not at all, like you said earlier, we have a proud tradition of helping asylum seekers, we need them as much as they need us , they can help rebuild this broken country . Why do you say that the Windrush immigrants were ‘amazing’? They are, brave hard working people, choosing to help rebuild a broken nation,
You know that’s rubbish, we’ve covered it before. They weren’t coming here to help rebuild the UK. They came as there were jobs and a better chance to make a living rather than being unemployed at home. They came to help themselves. Nothing wrong with that as the rules at the time allowed it. "They did both, great people , helping a notion in a time of great need, they choose to come here, they should be admired | |||
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"There's always so much confused anger over immigration from the indoctrinated. It could so easily be solved by reading. Not immigration. ‘Illegal’ immigration. Including all the scams. Why do so many deliberately try to mislead by saying ‘immigration’ ? These brave men and women have fled from war and persecution , we should be glad they chose the UK , we need workers to help the country back on its feet, Back onto its knees. 1 step at a time. Yes, I am glad these brave men and women decided to choose the UK when we are on our knees, just like the amazing wind rush generation after WW2 You are either peddling a lie, or you have been misled. Not at all, like you said earlier, we have a proud tradition of helping asylum seekers, we need them as much as they need us , they can help rebuild this broken country . Why do you say that the Windrush immigrants were ‘amazing’? They are, brave hard working people, choosing to help rebuild a broken nation,
You know that’s rubbish, we’ve covered it before. They weren’t coming here to help rebuild the UK. They came as there were jobs and a better chance to make a living rather than being unemployed at home. They came to help themselves. Nothing wrong with that as the rules at the time allowed it.
They did both, great people , helping a notion in a time of great need, they choose to come here, they should be admired "They were not helping a nation in need and you know it. | |||
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"There's always so much confused anger over immigration from the indoctrinated. It could so easily be solved by reading. Not immigration. ‘Illegal’ immigration. Including all the scams. Why do so many deliberately try to mislead by saying ‘immigration’ ? These brave men and women have fled from war and persecution , we should be glad they chose the UK , we need workers to help the country back on its feet, Back onto its knees. 1 step at a time. Yes, I am glad these brave men and women decided to choose the UK when we are on our knees, just like the amazing wind rush generation after WW2 You are either peddling a lie, or you have been misled. Not at all, like you said earlier, we have a proud tradition of helping asylum seekers, we need them as much as they need us , they can help rebuild this broken country . Why do you say that the Windrush immigrants were ‘amazing’? They are, brave hard working people, choosing to help rebuild a broken nation,
You know that’s rubbish, we’ve covered it before. They weren’t coming here to help rebuild the UK. They came as there were jobs and a better chance to make a living rather than being unemployed at home. They came to help themselves. Nothing wrong with that as the rules at the time allowed it.
They did both, great people , helping a notion in a time of great need, they choose to come here, they should be admired
They were not helping a nation in need and you know it. "They did, and you know it. They choose to help, such an amazing gesture | |||
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"There's always so much confused anger over immigration from the indoctrinated. It could so easily be solved by reading. Not immigration. ‘Illegal’ immigration. Including all the scams. Why do so many deliberately try to mislead by saying ‘immigration’ ? These brave men and women have fled from war and persecution , we should be glad they chose the UK , we need workers to help the country back on its feet, Back onto its knees. 1 step at a time. Yes, I am glad these brave men and women decided to choose the UK when we are on our knees, just like the amazing wind rush generation after WW2 You are either peddling a lie, or you have been misled. Not at all, like you said earlier, we have a proud tradition of helping asylum seekers, we need them as much as they need us , they can help rebuild this broken country . Why do you say that the Windrush immigrants were ‘amazing’? They are, brave hard working people, choosing to help rebuild a broken nation,
You know that’s rubbish, we’ve covered it before. They weren’t coming here to help rebuild the UK. They came as there were jobs and a better chance to make a living rather than being unemployed at home. They came to help themselves. Nothing wrong with that as the rules at the time allowed it.
They did both, great people , helping a notion in a time of great need, they choose to come here, they should be admired
They were not helping a nation in need and you know it.
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"There's always so much confused anger over immigration from the indoctrinated. It could so easily be solved by reading. Not immigration. ‘Illegal’ immigration. Including all the scams. Why do so many deliberately try to mislead by saying ‘immigration’ ? These brave men and women have fled from war and persecution , we should be glad they chose the UK , we need workers to help the country back on its feet, Back onto its knees. 1 step at a time. Yes, I am glad these brave men and women decided to choose the UK when we are on our knees, just like the amazing wind rush generation after WW2 You are either peddling a lie, or you have been misled. Not at all, like you said earlier, we have a proud tradition of helping asylum seekers, we need them as much as they need us , they can help rebuild this broken country . Why do you say that the Windrush immigrants were ‘amazing’? They are, brave hard working people, choosing to help rebuild a broken nation,
You know that’s rubbish, we’ve covered it before. They weren’t coming here to help rebuild the UK. They came as there were jobs and a better chance to make a living rather than being unemployed at home. They came to help themselves. Nothing wrong with that as the rules at the time allowed it.
They did both, great people , helping a notion in a time of great need, they choose to come here, they should be admired
They were not helping a nation in need and you know it.
They did, and you know it. They choose to help, such an amazing gesture
Now you are just being deliberately confrontational for some strange reason. "Not at all, are we not allowed a difference of opinion on here? Amazing people who helped rebuild out a nation in our time of great need | |||
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"There's always so much confused anger over immigration from the indoctrinated. It could so easily be solved by reading. Not immigration. ‘Illegal’ immigration. Including all the scams. Why do so many deliberately try to mislead by saying ‘immigration’ ? These brave men and women have fled from war and persecution , we should be glad they chose the UK , we need workers to help the country back on its feet, Back onto its knees. 1 step at a time. Yes, I am glad these brave men and women decided to choose the UK when we are on our knees, just like the amazing wind rush generation after WW2 You are either peddling a lie, or you have been misled. Not at all, like you said earlier, we have a proud tradition of helping asylum seekers, we need them as much as they need us , they can help rebuild this broken country . Why do you say that the Windrush immigrants were ‘amazing’? They are, brave hard working people, choosing to help rebuild a broken nation,
You know that’s rubbish, we’ve covered it before. They weren’t coming here to help rebuild the UK. They came as there were jobs and a better chance to make a living rather than being unemployed at home. They came to help themselves. Nothing wrong with that as the rules at the time allowed it.
They did both, great people , helping a notion in a time of great need, they choose to come here, they should be admired
They were not helping a nation in need and you know it.
They did, and you know it. They choose to help, such an amazing gesture
Now you are just being deliberately confrontational for some strange reason.
Not at all, are we not allowed a difference of opinion on here? Amazing people who helped rebuild out a nation in our time of great need "No doubt a few were amazing, most were probably ordinary or mediocre, and some we'd have been better without. I'm sure they came with a multitude of motivations, some selfish and some altruistic. | |||
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Just remember: we're not allowed to call him the R word or even imply it. He doesn't like that for some reason."You again. Wide of the mark and offensive again. For some reason? Because it’s not true. | |||
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"Why do you say that the Windrush immigrants were ‘amazing’? And with this incendiary remark seb once again has my attention…… So… seb….. what ya “putting down” this time?
Just remember: we're not allowed to call him the R word or even imply it. He doesn't like that for some reason.
You again. Wide of the mark and offensive again.
For some reason? Because it’s not true.
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"There's always so much confused anger over immigration from the indoctrinated. It could so easily be solved by reading. Not immigration. ‘Illegal’ immigration. Including all the scams. Why do so many deliberately try to mislead by saying ‘immigration’ ? These brave men and women have fled from war and persecution , we should be glad they chose the UK , we need workers to help the country back on its feet, Back onto its knees. 1 step at a time. Yes, I am glad these brave men and women decided to choose the UK when we are on our knees, just like the amazing wind rush generation after WW2 You are either peddling a lie, or you have been misled. Not at all, like you said earlier, we have a proud tradition of helping asylum seekers, we need them as much as they need us , they can help rebuild this broken country . Why do you say that the Windrush immigrants were ‘amazing’? They are, brave hard working people, choosing to help rebuild a broken nation,
You know that’s rubbish, we’ve covered it before. They weren’t coming here to help rebuild the UK. They came as there were jobs and a better chance to make a living rather than being unemployed at home. They came to help themselves. Nothing wrong with that as the rules at the time allowed it.
They did both, great people , helping a notion in a time of great need, they choose to come here, they should be admired
They were not helping a nation in need and you know it.
They did, and you know it. They choose to help, such an amazing gesture
Now you are just being deliberately confrontational for some strange reason.
Not at all, are we not allowed a difference of opinion on here? Amazing people who helped rebuild out a nation in our time of great need "Of course, but try sticking to the truth. | |||
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I’m not putting anyone down. Why would I?
Why is it incendiary? I’m sure many of them were great people but they did not come to the UK to help rebuild. They came for a better life with an opportunity to work. "So let’s start with “helping the nation!”…… okay.. the NHS! Just out of curiosity do you know roughly what percentage of nurses in the Uk were actively recruited from wind rush countries? Just roughly….. | |||
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I’m not putting anyone down. Why would I?
Why is it incendiary? I’m sure many of them were great people but they did not come to the UK to help rebuild. They came for a better life with an opportunity to work.
So let’s start with “helping the nation!”…… okay.. the NHS! Just out of curiosity do you know roughly what percentage of nurses in the Uk were actively recruited from wind rush countries?
Just roughly….. "No idea. But did they come to help the NHS or for training, working to pay their way then return home? They came for a better life. I have no problem with that as I have said multiple times. | |||
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I’m not putting anyone down. Why would I?
Why is it incendiary? I’m sure many of them were great people but they did not come to the UK to help rebuild. They came for a better life with an opportunity to work.
So let’s start with “helping the nation!”…… okay.. the NHS! Just out of curiosity do you know roughly what percentage of nurses in the Uk were actively recruited from wind rush countries?
Just roughly…..
No idea. But did they come to help the NHS or for training, working to pay their way then return home? They came for a better life. I have no problem with that as I have said multiple times. "You also seem to have no problem with putting foreign kids in an inhumane prison in this country either. Based on what you posted above... | |||
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"There's always so much confused anger over immigration from the indoctrinated. It could so easily be solved by reading. Not immigration. ‘Illegal’ immigration. Including all the scams. Why do so many deliberately try to mislead by saying ‘immigration’ ? These brave men and women have fled from war and persecution , we should be glad they chose the UK , we need workers to help the country back on its feet, Back onto its knees. 1 step at a time. Yes, I am glad these brave men and women decided to choose the UK when we are on our knees, just like the amazing wind rush generation after WW2 You are either peddling a lie, or you have been misled. Not at all, like you said earlier, we have a proud tradition of helping asylum seekers, we need them as much as they need us , they can help rebuild this broken country . Why do you say that the Windrush immigrants were ‘amazing’? They are, brave hard working people, choosing to help rebuild a broken nation,
You know that’s rubbish, we’ve covered it before. They weren’t coming here to help rebuild the UK. They came as there were jobs and a better chance to make a living rather than being unemployed at home. They came to help themselves. Nothing wrong with that as the rules at the time allowed it.
They did both, great people , helping a notion in a time of great need, they choose to come here, they should be admired
They were not helping a nation in need and you know it.
They did, and you know it. They choose to help, such an amazing gesture
Now you are just being deliberately confrontational for some strange reason.
Not at all, are we not allowed a difference of opinion on here? Amazing people who helped rebuild out a nation in our time of great need
Of course, but try sticking to the truth. "I have, | |||
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I’m not putting anyone down. Why would I?
Why is it incendiary? I’m sure many of them were great people but they did not come to the UK to help rebuild. They came for a better life with an opportunity to work. "They did both, something we should thank them for | |||
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"Why do you say that the Windrush immigrants were ‘amazing’? And with this incendiary remark seb once again has my attention…… So… seb….. what ya “putting down” this time?
I’m not putting anyone down. Why would I?
Why is it incendiary? I’m sure many of them were great people but they did not come to the UK to help rebuild. They came for a better life with an opportunity to work.
So let’s start with “helping the nation!”…… okay.. the NHS! Just out of curiosity do you know roughly what percentage of nurses in the Uk were actively recruited from wind rush countries?
Just roughly…..
No idea. But did they come to help the NHS or for training, working to pay their way then return home? They came for a better life. I have no problem with that as I have said multiple times. "It’s just that basic level of ignorance it’s startling…. Nurses had to be fully trained before they even stepped on the boats…. | |||
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"Actually…. Forget the question… I’m not going to let seb once again hijack a thread taking it in a different direction… You want to discuss this… set up a new thread Let’s just let his comment just linger here….. and let people make up their own mind based on his posting history…. "Exactly, tbh I mentioned the wind rush generation as a comparison towards the current asylum seekers, for some reason it triggered Seb | |||
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"Why do you say that the Windrush immigrants were ‘amazing’? And with this incendiary remark seb once again has my attention…… So… seb….. what ya “putting down” this time?
I’m not putting anyone down. Why would I?
Why is it incendiary? I’m sure many of them were great people but they did not come to the UK to help rebuild. They came for a better life with an opportunity to work.
So let’s start with “helping the nation!”…… okay.. the NHS! Just out of curiosity do you know roughly what percentage of nurses in the Uk were actively recruited from wind rush countries?
Just roughly…..
No idea. But did they come to help the NHS or for training, working to pay their way then return home? They came for a better life. I have no problem with that as I have said multiple times.
It’s just that basic level of ignorance it’s startling…. Nurses had to be fully trained before they even stepped on the boats….
"In 1954 - 3000 trainee nurses from the Caribbean. In 1959 - over 6000 student nurses. It’s a strange issue on a thread about illegal immigrants but that’s Fabricate with his wind up agenda. He’s in fine form today. Like I have said multiple times but a few on here just ignore it, I have no problem with them coming here at all. Why would I ? | |||
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"Why do you say that the Windrush immigrants were ‘amazing’? And with this incendiary remark seb once again has my attention…… So… seb….. what ya “putting down” this time?
I’m not putting anyone down. Why would I?
Why is it incendiary? I’m sure many of them were great people but they did not come to the UK to help rebuild. They came for a better life with an opportunity to work.
So let’s start with “helping the nation!”…… okay.. the NHS! Just out of curiosity do you know roughly what percentage of nurses in the Uk were actively recruited from wind rush countries?
Just roughly…..
No idea. But did they come to help the NHS or for training, working to pay their way then return home? They came for a better life. I have no problem with that as I have said multiple times.
It’s just that basic level of ignorance it’s startling…. Nurses had to be fully trained before they even stepped on the boats….
In 1954 - 3000 trainee nurses from the Caribbean. In 1959 - over 6000 student nurses.
It’s a strange issue on a thread about illegal immigrants but that’s Fabricate with his wind up agenda. He’s in fine form today.
Like I have said multiple times but a few on here just ignore it, I have no problem with them coming here at all. Why would I ? "Thanks, | |||
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Just remember: we're not allowed to call him the R word or even imply it. He doesn't like that for some reason."He is racist. He genuinely doesn't seem to understand that he is. I assume that is why he always seems so bemused and outraged when I tell him as such. Alternatively it's just a way to express racist views whilst feigning ignorance. | |||
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"There's always so much confused anger over immigration from the indoctrinated. It could so easily be solved by reading. Not immigration. ‘Illegal’ immigration. Including all the scams. Why do so many deliberately try to mislead by saying ‘immigration’ ? These brave men and women have fled from war and persecution , we should be glad they chose the UK , we need workers to help the country back on its feet, Back onto its knees. 1 step at a time. Yes, I am glad these brave men and women decided to choose the UK when we are on our knees, just like the amazing wind rush generation after WW2 You are either peddling a lie, or you have been misled. Not at all, like you said earlier, we have a proud tradition of helping asylum seekers, we need them as much as they need us , they can help rebuild this broken country . Why do you say that the Windrush immigrants were ‘amazing’? They are, brave hard working people, choosing to help rebuild a broken nation,
You know that’s rubbish, we’ve covered it before. They weren’t coming here to help rebuild the UK. They came as there were jobs and a better chance to make a living rather than being unemployed at home. They came to help themselves. Nothing wrong with that as the rules at the time allowed it. "Yes, we did cover it before and you were unable to provide any information to verify your statement other than your own opinion. In fact, you are the only person that I have ever encountered to express this view, yet for some reason you are convinced that you are correct. It is genuinely odd. | |||
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"There's always so much confused anger over immigration from the indoctrinated. It could so easily be solved by reading. Not immigration. ‘Illegal’ immigration. Including all the scams. Why do so many deliberately try to mislead by saying ‘immigration’ ? These brave men and women have fled from war and persecution , we should be glad they chose the UK , we need workers to help the country back on its feet, Back onto its knees. 1 step at a time. Yes, I am glad these brave men and women decided to choose the UK when we are on our knees, just like the amazing wind rush generation after WW2 You are either peddling a lie, or you have been misled. Not at all, like you said earlier, we have a proud tradition of helping asylum seekers, we need them as much as they need us , they can help rebuild this broken country . Why do you say that the Windrush immigrants were ‘amazing’? They are, brave hard working people, choosing to help rebuild a broken nation,
You know that’s rubbish, we’ve covered it before. They weren’t coming here to help rebuild the UK. They came as there were jobs and a better chance to make a living rather than being unemployed at home. They came to help themselves. Nothing wrong with that as the rules at the time allowed it.
Yes, we did cover it before and you were unable to provide any information to verify your statement other than your own opinion.
In fact, you are the only person that I have ever encountered to express this view, yet for some reason you are convinced that you are correct.
It is genuinely odd."I did ask you respectfully not to comment on any of my posts. I respectfully ask again. A number of Fabbers have the same opinion of you. | |||
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"There's always so much confused anger over immigration from the indoctrinated. It could so easily be solved by reading. Not immigration. ‘Illegal’ immigration. Including all the scams. Why do so many deliberately try to mislead by saying ‘immigration’ ? These brave men and women have fled from war and persecution , we should be glad they chose the UK , we need workers to help the country back on its feet, Back onto its knees. 1 step at a time. Yes, I am glad these brave men and women decided to choose the UK when we are on our knees, just like the amazing wind rush generation after WW2 You are either peddling a lie, or you have been misled. Not at all, like you said earlier, we have a proud tradition of helping asylum seekers, we need them as much as they need us , they can help rebuild this broken country . Why do you say that the Windrush immigrants were ‘amazing’? They are, brave hard working people, choosing to help rebuild a broken nation,
You know that’s rubbish, we’ve covered it before. They weren’t coming here to help rebuild the UK. They came as there were jobs and a better chance to make a living rather than being unemployed at home. They came to help themselves. Nothing wrong with that as the rules at the time allowed it.
Yes, we did cover it before and you were unable to provide any information to verify your statement other than your own opinion.
In fact, you are the only person that I have ever encountered to express this view, yet for some reason you are convinced that you are correct.
It is genuinely odd.
I did ask you respectfully not to comment on any of my posts. I respectfully ask again. A number of Fabbers have the same opinion of you. "Have you been been passing messages about me in class? Naughty you. A number of fabbers have an opinion on you too. So what? Regardless, you remain unable to respond to on-topic questions. I, on the other hand, am perfectly happy to debate with logic and actual information and data rather than opinion. It is much easier to win an argument when you "respectfully" ask people not to ask you any questions that you cannot answer  | |||
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You know that’s rubbish, we’ve covered it before. They weren’t coming here to help rebuild the UK. They came as there were jobs and a better chance to make a living rather than being unemployed at home. They came to help themselves. Nothing wrong with that as the rules at the time allowed it.
Yes, we did cover it before and you were unable to provide any information to verify your statement other than your own opinion.
In fact, you are the only person that I have ever encountered to express this view, yet for some reason you are convinced that you are correct.
It is genuinely odd.
I did ask you respectfully not to comment on any of my posts. I respectfully ask again. A number of Fabbers have the same opinion of you. "Keep on taking “the Daily Fail” seb….medication for the mendacious | |||
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"There's always so much confused anger over immigration from the indoctrinated. It could so easily be solved by reading. Not immigration. ‘Illegal’ immigration. Including all the scams. Why do so many deliberately try to mislead by saying ‘immigration’ ? These brave men and women have fled from war and persecution , we should be glad they chose the UK , we need workers to help the country back on its feet, Back onto its knees. 1 step at a time. Yes, I am glad these brave men and women decided to choose the UK when we are on our knees, just like the amazing wind rush generation after WW2 You are either peddling a lie, or you have been misled. Not at all, like you said earlier, we have a proud tradition of helping asylum seekers, we need them as much as they need us , they can help rebuild this broken country . Why do you say that the Windrush immigrants were ‘amazing’? They are, brave hard working people, choosing to help rebuild a broken nation,
You know that’s rubbish, we’ve covered it before. They weren’t coming here to help rebuild the UK. They came as there were jobs and a better chance to make a living rather than being unemployed at home. They came to help themselves. Nothing wrong with that as the rules at the time allowed it.
Yes, we did cover it before and you were unable to provide any information to verify your statement other than your own opinion.
In fact, you are the only person that I have ever encountered to express this view, yet for some reason you are convinced that you are correct.
It is genuinely odd.
I did ask you respectfully not to comment on any of my posts. I respectfully ask again. A number of Fabbers have the same opinion of you.
Keep on taking “the Daily Fail” seb….medication for the mendacious "Is that meant to be clever? Cryptic? Or just complete nonsense? | |||
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You know that’s rubbish, we’ve covered it before. They weren’t coming here to help rebuild the UK. They came as there were jobs and a better chance to make a living rather than being unemployed at home. They came to help themselves. Nothing wrong with that as the rules at the time allowed it.
Yes, we did cover it before and you were unable to provide any information to verify your statement other than your own opinion.
In fact, you are the only person that I have ever encountered to express this view, yet for some reason you are convinced that you are correct.
It is genuinely odd.
I did ask you respectfully not to comment on any of my posts. I respectfully ask again. A number of Fabbers have the same opinion of you.
Keep on taking “the Daily Fail” seb….medication for the mendacious
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You know that’s rubbish, we’ve covered it before. They weren’t coming here to help rebuild the UK. They came as there were jobs and a better chance to make a living rather than being unemployed at home. They came to help themselves. Nothing wrong with that as the rules at the time allowed it.
Yes, we did cover it before and you were unable to provide any information to verify your statement other than your own opinion.
In fact, you are the only person that I have ever encountered to express this view, yet for some reason you are convinced that you are correct.
It is genuinely odd."Wasting my time I know. Do you think the UK sent the Windrush to ask people from the Caribbean- as lovely as they are, to come and help us rebuild after the war? | |||
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"There's always so much confused anger over immigration from the indoctrinated. It could so easily be solved by reading. Not immigration. ‘Illegal’ immigration. Including all the scams. Why do so many deliberately try to mislead by saying ‘immigration’ ? These brave men and women have fled from war and persecution , we should be glad they chose the UK , we need workers to help the country back on its feet, Back onto its knees. 1 step at a time. Yes, I am glad these brave men and women decided to choose the UK when we are on our knees, just like the amazing wind rush generation after WW2 You are either peddling a lie, or you have been misled. Not at all, like you said earlier, we have a proud tradition of helping asylum seekers, we need them as much as they need us , they can help rebuild this broken country . Why do you say that the Windrush immigrants were ‘amazing’? They are, brave hard working people, choosing to help rebuild a broken nation,
You know that’s rubbish, we’ve covered it before. They weren’t coming here to help rebuild the UK. They came as there were jobs and a better chance to make a living rather than being unemployed at home. They came to help themselves. Nothing wrong with that as the rules at the time allowed it.
Yes, we did cover it before and you were unable to provide any information to verify your statement other than your own opinion.
In fact, you are the only person that I have ever encountered to express this view, yet for some reason you are convinced that you are correct.
It is genuinely odd.
I did ask you respectfully not to comment on any of my posts. I respectfully ask again. A number of Fabbers have the same opinion of you.
Keep on taking “the Daily Fail” seb….medication for the mendacious
Is that meant to be clever? Cryptic? Or just complete nonsense?
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You know that’s rubbish, we’ve covered it before. They weren’t coming here to help rebuild the UK. They came as there were jobs and a better chance to make a living rather than being unemployed at home. They came to help themselves. Nothing wrong with that as the rules at the time allowed it.
Yes, we did cover it before and you were unable to provide any information to verify your statement other than your own opinion.
In fact, you are the only person that I have ever encountered to express this view, yet for some reason you are convinced that you are correct.
It is genuinely odd.
Wasting my time I know. Do you think the UK sent the Windrush to ask people from the Caribbean- as lovely as they are, to come and help us rebuild after the war? "Yes, which made a welcome change at the time because they used to order them | |||
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"There's always so much confused anger over immigration from the indoctrinated. It could so easily be solved by reading. Not immigration. ‘Illegal’ immigration. Including all the scams. Why do so many deliberately try to mislead by saying ‘immigration’ ? These brave men and women have fled from war and persecution , we should be glad they chose the UK , we need workers to help the country back on its feet, Back onto its knees. 1 step at a time. Yes, I am glad these brave men and women decided to choose the UK when we are on our knees, just like the amazing wind rush generation after WW2 You are either peddling a lie, or you have been misled. Not at all, like you said earlier, we have a proud tradition of helping asylum seekers, we need them as much as they need us , they can help rebuild this broken country . Why do you say that the Windrush immigrants were ‘amazing’? They are, brave hard working people, choosing to help rebuild a broken nation,
You know that’s rubbish, we’ve covered it before. They weren’t coming here to help rebuild the UK. They came as there were jobs and a better chance to make a living rather than being unemployed at home. They came to help themselves. Nothing wrong with that as the rules at the time allowed it.
Yes, we did cover it before and you were unable to provide any information to verify your statement other than your own opinion.
In fact, you are the only person that I have ever encountered to express this view, yet for some reason you are convinced that you are correct.
It is genuinely odd.
I did ask you respectfully not to comment on any of my posts. I respectfully ask again. A number of Fabbers have the same opinion of you.
Keep on taking “the Daily Fail” seb….medication for the mendacious
Is that meant to be clever? Cryptic? Or just complete nonsense?
It was funny
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"There's always so much confused anger over immigration from the indoctrinated. It could so easily be solved by reading. Not immigration. ‘Illegal’ immigration. Including all the scams. Why do so many deliberately try to mislead by saying ‘immigration’ ? These brave men and women have fled from war and persecution , we should be glad they chose the UK , we need workers to help the country back on its feet, Back onto its knees. 1 step at a time. Yes, I am glad these brave men and women decided to choose the UK when we are on our knees, just like the amazing wind rush generation after WW2 You are either peddling a lie, or you have been misled. Not at all, like you said earlier, we have a proud tradition of helping asylum seekers, we need them as much as they need us , they can help rebuild this broken country . Why do you say that the Windrush immigrants were ‘amazing’? They are, brave hard working people, choosing to help rebuild a broken nation,
You know that’s rubbish, we’ve covered it before. They weren’t coming here to help rebuild the UK. They came as there were jobs and a better chance to make a living rather than being unemployed at home. They came to help themselves. Nothing wrong with that as the rules at the time allowed it.
Yes, we did cover it before and you were unable to provide any information to verify your statement other than your own opinion.
In fact, you are the only person that I have ever encountered to express this view, yet for some reason you are convinced that you are correct.
It is genuinely odd.
Wasting my time I know. Do you think the UK sent the Windrush to ask people from the Caribbean- as lovely as they are, to come and help us rebuild after the war?
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"There's always so much confused anger over immigration from the indoctrinated. It could so easily be solved by reading. Not immigration. ‘Illegal’ immigration. Including all the scams. Why do so many deliberately try to mislead by saying ‘immigration’ ? These brave men and women have fled from war and persecution , we should be glad they chose the UK , we need workers to help the country back on its feet, Back onto its knees. 1 step at a time. Yes, I am glad these brave men and women decided to choose the UK when we are on our knees, just like the amazing wind rush generation after WW2 You are either peddling a lie, or you have been misled. Not at all, like you said earlier, we have a proud tradition of helping asylum seekers, we need them as much as they need us , they can help rebuild this broken country . Why do you say that the Windrush immigrants were ‘amazing’? They are, brave hard working people, choosing to help rebuild a broken nation,
You know that’s rubbish, we’ve covered it before. They weren’t coming here to help rebuild the UK. They came as there were jobs and a better chance to make a living rather than being unemployed at home. They came to help themselves. Nothing wrong with that as the rules at the time allowed it.
Yes, we did cover it before and you were unable to provide any information to verify your statement other than your own opinion.
In fact, you are the only person that I have ever encountered to express this view, yet for some reason you are convinced that you are correct.
It is genuinely odd.
Wasting my time I know. Do you think the UK sent the Windrush to ask people from the Caribbean- as lovely as they are, to come and help us rebuild after the war?
Yes, which made a welcome change at the time because they used to order them
Wrong again. "No, I am correct, they chose to come here to help rebuild our country, | |||
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"There's always so much confused anger over immigration from the indoctrinated. It could so easily be solved by reading. Not immigration. ‘Illegal’ immigration. Including all the scams. Why do so many deliberately try to mislead by saying ‘immigration’ ? These brave men and women have fled from war and persecution , we should be glad they chose the UK , we need workers to help the country back on its feet, Back onto its knees. 1 step at a time. Yes, I am glad these brave men and women decided to choose the UK when we are on our knees, just like the amazing wind rush generation after WW2 You are either peddling a lie, or you have been misled. Not at all, like you said earlier, we have a proud tradition of helping asylum seekers, we need them as much as they need us , they can help rebuild this broken country . Why do you say that the Windrush immigrants were ‘amazing’? They are, brave hard working people, choosing to help rebuild a broken nation,
You know that’s rubbish, we’ve covered it before. They weren’t coming here to help rebuild the UK. They came as there were jobs and a better chance to make a living rather than being unemployed at home. They came to help themselves. Nothing wrong with that as the rules at the time allowed it.
Yes, we did cover it before and you were unable to provide any information to verify your statement other than your own opinion.
In fact, you are the only person that I have ever encountered to express this view, yet for some reason you are convinced that you are correct.
It is genuinely odd.
Wasting my time I know. Do you think the UK sent the Windrush to ask people from the Caribbean- as lovely as they are, to come and help us rebuild after the war?
Yes, which made a welcome change at the time because they used to order them
Wrong again.
No, I am correct, they chose to come here to help rebuild our country, "Why do you like to think that? Lovely story but not true. They came to make money & god bless them. | |||
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"There's always so much confused anger over immigration from the indoctrinated. It could so easily be solved by reading. Not immigration. ‘Illegal’ immigration. Including all the scams. Why do so many deliberately try to mislead by saying ‘immigration’ ? These brave men and women have fled from war and persecution , we should be glad they chose the UK , we need workers to help the country back on its feet, Back onto its knees. 1 step at a time. Yes, I am glad these brave men and women decided to choose the UK when we are on our knees, just like the amazing wind rush generation after WW2 You are either peddling a lie, or you have been misled. Not at all, like you said earlier, we have a proud tradition of helping asylum seekers, we need them as much as they need us , they can help rebuild this broken country . Why do you say that the Windrush immigrants were ‘amazing’? They are, brave hard working people, choosing to help rebuild a broken nation,
You know that’s rubbish, we’ve covered it before. They weren’t coming here to help rebuild the UK. They came as there were jobs and a better chance to make a living rather than being unemployed at home. They came to help themselves. Nothing wrong with that as the rules at the time allowed it.
Yes, we did cover it before and you were unable to provide any information to verify your statement other than your own opinion.
In fact, you are the only person that I have ever encountered to express this view, yet for some reason you are convinced that you are correct.
It is genuinely odd.
Wasting my time I know. Do you think the UK sent the Windrush to ask people from the Caribbean- as lovely as they are, to come and help us rebuild after the war?
Yes, which made a welcome change at the time because they used to order them
Wrong again.
No, I am correct, they chose to come here to help rebuild our country,
Why do you like to think that? Lovely story but not true. They came to make money & god bless them. "‘You called, and we came’ a beautifully poem written on the amazing windrush memorial in Waterloo station. Do you have a memorial for anything that you have done for our country? | |||
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"There's always so much confused anger over immigration from the indoctrinated. It could so easily be solved by reading. Not immigration. ‘Illegal’ immigration. Including all the scams. Why do so many deliberately try to mislead by saying ‘immigration’ ? These brave men and women have fled from war and persecution , we should be glad they chose the UK , we need workers to help the country back on its feet, Back onto its knees. 1 step at a time. Yes, I am glad these brave men and women decided to choose the UK when we are on our knees, just like the amazing wind rush generation after WW2 You are either peddling a lie, or you have been misled. Not at all, like you said earlier, we have a proud tradition of helping asylum seekers, we need them as much as they need us , they can help rebuild this broken country . Why do you say that the Windrush immigrants were ‘amazing’? They are, brave hard working people, choosing to help rebuild a broken nation,
You know that’s rubbish, we’ve covered it before. They weren’t coming here to help rebuild the UK. They came as there were jobs and a better chance to make a living rather than being unemployed at home. They came to help themselves. Nothing wrong with that as the rules at the time allowed it.
Yes, we did cover it before and you were unable to provide any information to verify your statement other than your own opinion.
In fact, you are the only person that I have ever encountered to express this view, yet for some reason you are convinced that you are correct.
It is genuinely odd.
I did ask you respectfully not to comment on any of my posts. I respectfully ask again. A number of Fabbers have the same opinion of you.
Keep on taking “the Daily Fail” seb….medication for the mendacious
Is that meant to be clever? Cryptic? Or just complete nonsense? "Just thought you might like a little reminder of what you wrote in another thread you silly old sausage | |||
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"There's always so much confused anger over immigration from the indoctrinated. It could so easily be solved by reading. Not immigration. ‘Illegal’ immigration. Including all the scams. Why do so many deliberately try to mislead by saying ‘immigration’ ? These brave men and women have fled from war and persecution , we should be glad they chose the UK , we need workers to help the country back on its feet, Back onto its knees. 1 step at a time. Yes, I am glad these brave men and women decided to choose the UK when we are on our knees, just like the amazing wind rush generation after WW2 You are either peddling a lie, or you have been misled. Not at all, like you said earlier, we have a proud tradition of helping asylum seekers, we need them as much as they need us , they can help rebuild this broken country . Why do you say that the Windrush immigrants were ‘amazing’? They are, brave hard working people, choosing to help rebuild a broken nation,
You know that’s rubbish, we’ve covered it before. They weren’t coming here to help rebuild the UK. They came as there were jobs and a better chance to make a living rather than being unemployed at home. They came to help themselves. Nothing wrong with that as the rules at the time allowed it.
Yes, we did cover it before and you were unable to provide any information to verify your statement other than your own opinion.
In fact, you are the only person that I have ever encountered to express this view, yet for some reason you are convinced that you are correct.
It is genuinely odd.
Wasting my time I know. Do you think the UK sent the Windrush to ask people from the Caribbean- as lovely as they are, to come and help us rebuild after the war?
Yes, which made a welcome change at the time because they used to order them
Wrong again.
No, I am correct, they chose to come here to help rebuild our country,
Why do you like to think that? Lovely story but not true. They came to make money & god bless them.
‘You called, and we came’ a beautifully poem written on the amazing windrush memorial in Waterloo station. Do you have a memorial for anything that you have done for our country?
"Don’t worry…. If its one thing we have learnt about seb in the last 7 days is his distain for all things that aren’t “British enough “ in his eyes…. And his view that anyone who came here was basically an economic migrant whose aim was to stay here as short term as possible… and those who are the first generation of those who came will never be British | |||
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"There are a few fucking horrible people that have contributed to this thread. You know who you are. Maybe one day you will find yourselves in some position where you are relying on the mercy of others. As a compassionate person I hope that you then do not find yourselves treated in the same way that it seems you would treat others... " I think the horrible attitudes are what happens after years of nasty rhetoric is dripfed to the public via certain media then prejudices are compounded + legitimised by certain politicians too. | |||
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"There's always so much confused anger over immigration from the indoctrinated. It could so easily be solved by reading. Not immigration. ‘Illegal’ immigration. Including all the scams. Why do so many deliberately try to mislead by saying ‘immigration’ ? These brave men and women have fled from war and persecution , we should be glad they chose the UK , we need workers to help the country back on its feet, Back onto its knees. 1 step at a time. Yes, I am glad these brave men and women decided to choose the UK when we are on our knees, just like the amazing wind rush generation after WW2 You are either peddling a lie, or you have been misled. Not at all, like you said earlier, we have a proud tradition of helping asylum seekers, we need them as much as they need us , they can help rebuild this broken country . Why do you say that the Windrush immigrants were ‘amazing’? They are, brave hard working people, choosing to help rebuild a broken nation,
You know that’s rubbish, we’ve covered it before. They weren’t coming here to help rebuild the UK. They came as there were jobs and a better chance to make a living rather than being unemployed at home. They came to help themselves. Nothing wrong with that as the rules at the time allowed it.
Yes, we did cover it before and you were unable to provide any information to verify your statement other than your own opinion.
In fact, you are the only person that I have ever encountered to express this view, yet for some reason you are convinced that you are correct.
It is genuinely odd.
Wasting my time I know. Do you think the UK sent the Windrush to ask people from the Caribbean- as lovely as they are, to come and help us rebuild after the war?
Yes, which made a welcome change at the time because they used to order them
Wrong again.
No, I am correct, they chose to come here to help rebuild our country,
Why do you like to think that? Lovely story but not true. They came to make money & god bless them.
‘You called, and we came’ a beautifully poem written on the amazing windrush memorial in Waterloo station. Do you have a memorial for anything that you have done for our country?
Don’t worry…. If its one thing we have learnt about seb in the last 7 days is his distain for all things that aren’t “British enough “ in his eyes…. And his view that anyone who came here was basically an economic migrant whose aim was to stay here as short term as possible… and those who are the first generation of those who came will never be British "Yep it’s the creeping insidiousness of his “reasonable white middle aged man” point of view that’s just so grim isn’t it! The PM is not really British enough for him, even though he was born here, and the Windrush nurses were economic migrants who he probably thinks should have been sent home once they were no longer needed! Despicable sentiments! | |||
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"There are a few fucking horrible people that have contributed to this thread. You know who you are. Maybe one day you will find yourselves in some position where you are relying on the mercy of others. As a compassionate person I hope that you then do not find yourselves treated in the same way that it seems you would treat others... I think the horrible attitudes are what happens after years of nasty rhetoric is dripfed to the public via certain media then prejudices are compounded + legitimised by certain politicians too." It never fails to astound me the sheer depths the tories will plumb to in order to stay in power. They will continually bend the knee to those right wing press barons. | |||
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"There are a few fucking horrible people that have contributed to this thread. You know who you are. Maybe one day you will find yourselves in some position where you are relying on the mercy of others. As a compassionate person I hope that you then do not find yourselves treated in the same way that it seems you would treat others... " It's honestly why I don't dip into the politics forum too often, Polly; it's just too depressing to see people so happy to espouse such vile views. Almost revelling in them. | |||
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"There's always so much confused anger over immigration from the indoctrinated. It could so easily be solved by reading. Not immigration. ‘Illegal’ immigration. Including all the scams. Why do so many deliberately try to mislead by saying ‘immigration’ ? These brave men and women have fled from war and persecution , we should be glad they chose the UK , we need workers to help the country back on its feet, Back onto its knees. 1 step at a time. Yes, I am glad these brave men and women decided to choose the UK when we are on our knees, just like the amazing wind rush generation after WW2 You are either peddling a lie, or you have been misled. Not at all, like you said earlier, we have a proud tradition of helping asylum seekers, we need them as much as they need us , they can help rebuild this broken country . Why do you say that the Windrush immigrants were ‘amazing’? They are, brave hard working people, choosing to help rebuild a broken nation,
You know that’s rubbish, we’ve covered it before. They weren’t coming here to help rebuild the UK. They came as there were jobs and a better chance to make a living rather than being unemployed at home. They came to help themselves. Nothing wrong with that as the rules at the time allowed it.
Yes, we did cover it before and you were unable to provide any information to verify your statement other than your own opinion.
In fact, you are the only person that I have ever encountered to express this view, yet for some reason you are convinced that you are correct.
It is genuinely odd.
Wasting my time I know. Do you think the UK sent the Windrush to ask people from the Caribbean- as lovely as they are, to come and help us rebuild after the war? "Interesting. Once again you provide no information to verify your statement other than your own assertion. In fact, you change the topic. I noticed. Did you? Why did you do that, do you think? Why would the UK have sent it? They don't send planes to collect skilled migrants now. What is the "gotcha" that you were aiming for? | |||
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"There's always so much confused anger over immigration from the indoctrinated. It could so easily be solved by reading. Not immigration. ‘Illegal’ immigration. Including all the scams. Why do so many deliberately try to mislead by saying ‘immigration’ ? These brave men and women have fled from war and persecution , we should be glad they chose the UK , we need workers to help the country back on its feet, Back onto its knees. 1 step at a time. Yes, I am glad these brave men and women decided to choose the UK when we are on our knees, just like the amazing wind rush generation after WW2 You are either peddling a lie, or you have been misled. Not at all, like you said earlier, we have a proud tradition of helping asylum seekers, we need them as much as they need us , they can help rebuild this broken country . Why do you say that the Windrush immigrants were ‘amazing’? They are, brave hard working people, choosing to help rebuild a broken nation,
You know that’s rubbish, we’ve covered it before. They weren’t coming here to help rebuild the UK. They came as there were jobs and a better chance to make a living rather than being unemployed at home. They came to help themselves. Nothing wrong with that as the rules at the time allowed it.
Yes, we did cover it before and you were unable to provide any information to verify your statement other than your own opinion.
In fact, you are the only person that I have ever encountered to express this view, yet for some reason you are convinced that you are correct.
It is genuinely odd.
Wasting my time I know. Do you think the UK sent the Windrush to ask people from the Caribbean- as lovely as they are, to come and help us rebuild after the war?
Yes, which made a welcome change at the time because they used to order them
Wrong again.
No, I am correct, they chose to come here to help rebuild our country,
Why do you like to think that? Lovely story but not true. They came to make money & god bless them.
‘You called, and we came’ a beautifully poem written on the amazing windrush memorial in Waterloo station. Do you have a memorial for anything that you have done for our country?
Don’t worry…. If its one thing we have learnt about seb in the last 7 days is his distain for all things that aren’t “British enough “ in his eyes…. And his view that anyone who came here was basically an economic migrant whose aim was to stay here as short term as possible… and those who are the first generation of those who came will never be British
Yep it’s the creeping insidiousness of his “reasonable white middle aged man” point of view that’s just so grim isn’t it!
The PM is not really British enough for him, even though he was born here, and the Windrush nurses were economic migrants who he probably thinks should have been sent home once they were no longer needed! Despicable sentiments!"Thanks again for spinning my posts to suit your view. Begged instead to explain why you disagree. In my view he is not invested enough in this country and would leave at the drop of a hat without looking back. Where have I said anyone should be sent back to the Caribbean. Do you really think qualified nurses left idyllic tropical islands to come and help the UK? Stop spinning please. | |||
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"There's always so much confused anger over immigration from the indoctrinated. It could so easily be solved by reading. Not immigration. ‘Illegal’ immigration. Including all the scams. Why do so many deliberately try to mislead by saying ‘immigration’ ? These brave men and women have fled from war and persecution , we should be glad they chose the UK , we need workers to help the country back on its feet, Back onto its knees. 1 step at a time. Yes, I am glad these brave men and women decided to choose the UK when we are on our knees, just like the amazing wind rush generation after WW2 You are either peddling a lie, or you have been misled. Not at all, like you said earlier, we have a proud tradition of helping asylum seekers, we need them as much as they need us , they can help rebuild this broken country . Why do you say that the Windrush immigrants were ‘amazing’? They are, brave hard working people, choosing to help rebuild a broken nation,
You know that’s rubbish, we’ve covered it before. They weren’t coming here to help rebuild the UK. They came as there were jobs and a better chance to make a living rather than being unemployed at home. They came to help themselves. Nothing wrong with that as the rules at the time allowed it.
Yes, we did cover it before and you were unable to provide any information to verify your statement other than your own opinion.
In fact, you are the only person that I have ever encountered to express this view, yet for some reason you are convinced that you are correct.
It is genuinely odd.
Wasting my time I know. Do you think the UK sent the Windrush to ask people from the Caribbean- as lovely as they are, to come and help us rebuild after the war?
Yes, which made a welcome change at the time because they used to order them
Wrong again.
No, I am correct, they chose to come here to help rebuild our country,
Why do you like to think that? Lovely story but not true. They came to make money & god bless them.
‘You called, and we came’ a beautifully poem written on the amazing windrush memorial in Waterloo station. Do you have a memorial for anything that you have done for our country?
Don’t worry…. If its one thing we have learnt about seb in the last 7 days is his distain for all things that aren’t “British enough “ in his eyes…. And his view that anyone who came here was basically an economic migrant whose aim was to stay here as short term as possible… and those who are the first generation of those who came will never be British
Yep it’s the creeping insidiousness of his “reasonable white middle aged man” point of view that’s just so grim isn’t it!
The PM is not really British enough for him, even though he was born here, and the Windrush nurses were economic migrants who he probably thinks should have been sent home once they were no longer needed! Despicable sentiments!
Thanks again for spinning my posts to suit your view. Begged instead to explain why you disagree. In my view he is not invested enough in this country and would leave at the drop of a hat without looking back.
Where have I said anyone should be sent back to the Caribbean. Do you really think qualified nurses left idyllic tropical islands to come and help the UK?
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"There's always so much confused anger over immigration from the indoctrinated. It could so easily be solved by reading. Not immigration. ‘Illegal’ immigration. Including all the scams. Why do so many deliberately try to mislead by saying ‘immigration’ ? These brave men and women have fled from war and persecution , we should be glad they chose the UK , we need workers to help the country back on its feet, Back onto its knees. 1 step at a time. Yes, I am glad these brave men and women decided to choose the UK when we are on our knees, just like the amazing wind rush generation after WW2 You are either peddling a lie, or you have been misled. Not at all, like you said earlier, we have a proud tradition of helping asylum seekers, we need them as much as they need us , they can help rebuild this broken country . Why do you say that the Windrush immigrants were ‘amazing’? They are, brave hard working people, choosing to help rebuild a broken nation,
You know that’s rubbish, we’ve covered it before. They weren’t coming here to help rebuild the UK. They came as there were jobs and a better chance to make a living rather than being unemployed at home. They came to help themselves. Nothing wrong with that as the rules at the time allowed it.
Yes, we did cover it before and you were unable to provide any information to verify your statement other than your own opinion.
In fact, you are the only person that I have ever encountered to express this view, yet for some reason you are convinced that you are correct.
It is genuinely odd.
Wasting my time I know. Do you think the UK sent the Windrush to ask people from the Caribbean- as lovely as they are, to come and help us rebuild after the war?
Yes, which made a welcome change at the time because they used to order them
Wrong again.
No, I am correct, they chose to come here to help rebuild our country,
Why do you like to think that? Lovely story but not true. They came to make money & god bless them.
‘You called, and we came’ a beautifully poem written on the amazing windrush memorial in Waterloo station. Do you have a memorial for anything that you have done for our country?
Don’t worry…. If its one thing we have learnt about seb in the last 7 days is his distain for all things that aren’t “British enough “ in his eyes…. And his view that anyone who came here was basically an economic migrant whose aim was to stay here as short term as possible… and those who are the first generation of those who came will never be British "Please keep it real & stop ‘spinning’ my comments | |||
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"There's always so much confused anger over immigration from the indoctrinated. It could so easily be solved by reading. Not immigration. ‘Illegal’ immigration. Including all the scams. Why do so many deliberately try to mislead by saying ‘immigration’ ? These brave men and women have fled from war and persecution , we should be glad they chose the UK , we need workers to help the country back on its feet, Back onto its knees. 1 step at a time. Yes, I am glad these brave men and women decided to choose the UK when we are on our knees, just like the amazing wind rush generation after WW2 You are either peddling a lie, or you have been misled. Not at all, like you said earlier, we have a proud tradition of helping asylum seekers, we need them as much as they need us , they can help rebuild this broken country . Why do you say that the Windrush immigrants were ‘amazing’? They are, brave hard working people, choosing to help rebuild a broken nation,
You know that’s rubbish, we’ve covered it before. They weren’t coming here to help rebuild the UK. They came as there were jobs and a better chance to make a living rather than being unemployed at home. They came to help themselves. Nothing wrong with that as the rules at the time allowed it.
Yes, we did cover it before and you were unable to provide any information to verify your statement other than your own opinion.
In fact, you are the only person that I have ever encountered to express this view, yet for some reason you are convinced that you are correct.
It is genuinely odd.
I did ask you respectfully not to comment on any of my posts. I respectfully ask again. A number of Fabbers have the same opinion of you.
Keep on taking “the Daily Fail” seb….medication for the mendacious
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"There are a few fucking horrible people that have contributed to this thread. You know who you are. Maybe one day you will find yourselves in some position where you are relying on the mercy of others. As a compassionate person I hope that you then do not find yourselves treated in the same way that it seems you would treat others... Unfortunately these people are extremely unhappy, confused and angry. They have been brainwashed into believing that the cause of their unhappiness is a few poor and desperate people arriving here by boat, it is really sad to see
‘A few’ - what’s your definition of a few? Less than a handful to most people.
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"There are a few fucking horrible people that have contributed to this thread. You know who you are. Maybe one day you will find yourselves in some position where you are relying on the mercy of others. As a compassionate person I hope that you then do not find yourselves treated in the same way that it seems you would treat others... Unfortunately these people are extremely unhappy, confused and angry. They have been brainwashed into believing that the cause of their unhappiness is a few poor and desperate people arriving here by boat, it is really sad to see
‘A few’ - what’s your definition of a few? Less than a handful to most people.
Stop being disingenuous.
Yes, a few, less then 0.1% of the UKs population. "At my school, 50,000 + and counting is a bit more than a few. | |||
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"There are a few fucking horrible people that have contributed to this thread. You know who you are. Maybe one day you will find yourselves in some position where you are relying on the mercy of others. As a compassionate person I hope that you then do not find yourselves treated in the same way that it seems you would treat others... Unfortunately these people are extremely unhappy, confused and angry. They have been brainwashed into believing that the cause of their unhappiness is a few poor and desperate people arriving here by boat, it is really sad to see
‘A few’ - what’s your definition of a few? Less than a handful to most people.
Stop being disingenuous.
Yes, a few, less then 0.1% of the UKs population.
At my school, 50,000 + and counting is a bit more than a few. "How big was your school? It is less than 0.1% of the population, in fact, those that are not granted asylum is less than 0.01% of the UKs population | |||
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"...and panic seems to have set in. "Home Office leaves asylum seekers from Manston stranded in central London" 'the offloading of people at the station may not have been a one-off incident. “A British Transport Police officer at Victoria told me that that has been going on since Saturday – coaches of refugees are just being dumped here,”' https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/nov/02/home-office-leaves-asylum-seekers-from-manston-stranded-in-central-london" Complete and utter shambles  | |||
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"'Albania’s Prime Minister has told Britain to stop blaming "innocent" Albanians for its migrant crisis in a rebuke to Home Secretary Suella Braverman's "insane" rhetoric.' https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/11/02/stop-blame-albania-uk-migrant-crisis/ I don't feel that the Tory party has positively influenced or standing in the world..." Listened to a very interesting podcast with the Albanian PM the other day - compared to our politicians it was like having a grown up in the room | |||
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"Sounds like Braverman deliberately did not book alternate accomodation, resulting in a serious worsening of conditions @ Manston. Also unlawful detention." Nearly all young men don’t forget. Do they get a room each or share? | |||
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"'Albania’s Prime Minister has told Britain to stop blaming "innocent" Albanians for its migrant crisis in a rebuke to Home Secretary Suella Braverman's "insane" rhetoric.' https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/11/02/stop-blame-albania-uk-migrant-crisis/ I don't feel that the Tory party has positively influenced or standing in the world... Listened to a very interesting podcast with the Albanian PM the other day - compared to our politicians it was like having a grown up in the room" Was it ‘the rest is politics’ ? | |||
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"They have no coats, money or phones and are wearing flipflops" ‘The true measure of any society can be found in how it treats its most vulnerable members ‘ | |||
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"There are 165 on the floor of a tent" Good. Get a few more in there to keep it warm. Hopefully we aren't wasting money heating the tent. | |||
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"They have no coats, money or phones and are wearing flipflops ‘The true measure of any society can be found in how it treats its most vulnerable members ‘ " They aren't members of our society. | |||
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"Leaky Sue's notorious leaking is not the only reason she has to go. The situation @ Manston looks awful. And that's within the purview of Braverman." Suella being criticised for her language can you believe? It is an invasion, it is a myth that they are genuine asylum seekers. Why do we criticise our politicians when they call it out as it is . We should support politicians more. | |||
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"They have no coats, money or phones and are wearing flipflops ‘The true measure of any society can be found in how it treats its most vulnerable members ‘ " Quite, it's time that Albania and France started doing their bit for these vulnerable people. | |||
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"They have no coats, money or phones and are wearing flipflops ‘The true measure of any society can be found in how it treats its most vulnerable members ‘ Quite, it's time that Albania and France started doing their bit for these vulnerable people." They do, | |||
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"They have no coats, money or phones and are wearing flipflops ‘The true measure of any society can be found in how it treats its most vulnerable members ‘ They aren't members of our society." They are, they have chosen to come here and help this broken country get back on its feet, a noble gesture by brave people | |||
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"There are 165 on the floor of a tent Good. Get a few more in there to keep it warm. Hopefully we aren't wasting money heating the tent." Why are you endorsing child cruelty ? | |||
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"There are 165 on the floor of a tent Good. Get a few more in there to keep it warm. Hopefully we aren't wasting money heating the tent. Why are you endorsing child cruelty ? " Very few are children. Most are young men. | |||
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"They have no coats, money or phones and are wearing flipflops ‘The true measure of any society can be found in how it treats its most vulnerable members ‘ They aren't members of our society. They are, they have chosen to come here and help this broken country get back on its feet, a noble gesture by brave people " Total rubbish. They are mostly economic migrants or criminals. | |||
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"There are 165 on the floor of a tent Good. Get a few more in there to keep it warm. Hopefully we aren't wasting money heating the tent. Why are you endorsing child cruelty ? Very few are children. Most are young men." My are endorsing human suffering and child cruelty | |||
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"There are 165 on the floor of a tent Good. Get a few more in there to keep it warm. Hopefully we aren't wasting money heating the tent. Why are you endorsing child cruelty ? Very few are children. Most are young men. My are endorsing human suffering and child cruelty " Why | |||
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"They have no coats, money or phones and are wearing flipflops ‘The true measure of any society can be found in how it treats its most vulnerable members ‘ They aren't members of our society. They are, they have chosen to come here and help this broken country get back on its feet, a noble gesture by brave people Total rubbish. They are mostly economic migrants or criminals." Do you have the stats to back up that claim, I hope you haven’t been radicalised like poor Andrew Leak | |||
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"They have no coats, money or phones and are wearing flipflops ‘The true measure of any society can be found in how it treats its most vulnerable members ‘ Quite, it's time that Albania and France started doing their bit for these vulnerable people." There have been make shift camps around Calais, on and off for about 30 years. Every now and then the authorities clear and bulldoze them. Why don’t all the leftie lawyers take them selves off to France to tackle this issue? | |||
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"They have no coats, money or phones and are wearing flipflops ‘The true measure of any society can be found in how it treats its most vulnerable members ‘ They aren't members of our society. They are, they have chosen to come here and help this broken country get back on its feet, a noble gesture by brave people Total rubbish. They are mostly economic migrants or criminals." Spot on. Uninvited of course. Taking advantage of our proud history of helping genuine refugees, taking advantage of British values. Funny that only now because Manston has been overwhelmed by the numbers has it returned to mainstream reporting. Early in the year the daily crossings were being downplayed. | |||
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"They have no coats, money or phones and are wearing flipflops ‘The true measure of any society can be found in how it treats its most vulnerable members ‘ They aren't members of our society. They are, they have chosen to come here and help this broken country get back on its feet, a noble gesture by brave people Total rubbish. They are mostly economic migrants or criminals. Do you have the stats to back up that claim, I hope you haven’t been radicalised like poor Andrew Leak " gov.uk May to September 2022. 42% of small boat arrivals are from Albania. 2018 to 2022 95% of Albanians arriving by small boat were male. Of the Albanian males whose asylum claims were concluded in the past year 14% were granted asylum. Full report due out 24 November, containing details of other nationalities. | |||
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"They have no coats, money or phones and are wearing flipflops ‘The true measure of any society can be found in how it treats its most vulnerable members ‘ They aren't members of our society. They are, they have chosen to come here and help this broken country get back on its feet, a noble gesture by brave people Total rubbish. They are mostly economic migrants or criminals. Do you have the stats to back up that claim, I hope you haven’t been radicalised like poor Andrew Leak gov.uk May to September 2022. 42% of small boat arrivals are from Albania. 2018 to 2022 95% of Albanians arriving by small boat were male. Of the Albanian males whose asylum claims were concluded in the past year 14% were granted asylum. Full report due out 24 November, containing details of other nationalities." And they are all criminals and economic migrants? If that is the case, why aren’t they being denied asylum and sent back to Albania? | |||
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"They have no coats, money or phones and are wearing flipflops ‘The true measure of any society can be found in how it treats its most vulnerable members ‘ They aren't members of our society. They are, they have chosen to come here and help this broken country get back on its feet, a noble gesture by brave people Total rubbish. They are mostly economic migrants or criminals. Do you have the stats to back up that claim, I hope you haven’t been radicalised like poor Andrew Leak gov.uk May to September 2022. 42% of small boat arrivals are from Albania. 2018 to 2022 95% of Albanians arriving by small boat were male. Of the Albanian males whose asylum claims were concluded in the past year 14% were granted asylum. Full report due out 24 November, containing details of other nationalities. And they are all criminals and economic migrants? If that is the case, why aren’t they being denied asylum and sent back to Albania? " Because the asylum system is broken in this country. I posted the reasons on another thread. In a nutshell: useless IT systems, poor staff performance, lax laws so anyone can claim to be "trafficked", lack of will to deal with the problem (political and from staff and unions), too many lefty lawyers with an agenda clogging up the system with spurious appeals. The asylum system should be for those few people in genuine need of protection because they have done something good which has marked them out for persecution in their home country. So Afghan interpreters, middle east LGBT activists, opposition parties in totalitarian regimes etc. It is not there to take anyone and everyone who is slightly struggling or thinks life is better elsewhere. It would be expected that people would bring their families so the normal cross section of the population would arrive. I can't believe that all the single men of working age are at risk of persecution in any country. | |||
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"They have no coats, money or phones and are wearing flipflops ‘The true measure of any society can be found in how it treats its most vulnerable members ‘ They aren't members of our society. They are, they have chosen to come here and help this broken country get back on its feet, a noble gesture by brave people Total rubbish. They are mostly economic migrants or criminals. Do you have the stats to back up that claim, I hope you haven’t been radicalised like poor Andrew Leak gov.uk May to September 2022. 42% of small boat arrivals are from Albania. 2018 to 2022 95% of Albanians arriving by small boat were male. Of the Albanian males whose asylum claims were concluded in the past year 14% were granted asylum. Full report due out 24 November, containing details of other nationalities. And they are all criminals and economic migrants? If that is the case, why aren’t they being denied asylum and sent back to Albania? Because the asylum system is broken in this country. I posted the reasons on another thread. In a nutshell: useless IT systems, poor staff performance, lax laws so anyone can claim to be "trafficked", lack of will to deal with the problem (political and from staff and unions), too many lefty lawyers with an agenda clogging up the system with spurious appeals. The asylum system should be for those few people in genuine need of protection because they have done something good which has marked them out for persecution in their home country. So Afghan interpreters, middle east LGBT activists, opposition parties in totalitarian regimes etc. It is not there to take anyone and everyone who is slightly struggling or thinks life is better elsewhere. It would be expected that people would bring their families so the normal cross section of the population would arrive. I can't believe that all the single men of working age are at risk of persecution in any country." It is hard to believe when you see these young men with designer clothes & trainers waving & smiling as they come ashore. Others with heads down & hoods up of course. We have no idea who they are. | |||
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"Do you have the stats to back up that claim" "gov.uk May to September 2022. 42% of small boat arrivals are from Albania. 2018 to 2022 95% of Albanians arriving by small boat were male. Of the Albanian males whose asylum claims were concluded in the past year 14% were granted asylum. Full report due out 24 November, containing details of other nationalities." Can you give us a link to that information? You can post gov.uk links here with no issues. | |||
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"They have no coats, money or phones and are wearing flipflops ‘The true measure of any society can be found in how it treats its most vulnerable members ‘ They aren't members of our society. They are, they have chosen to come here and help this broken country get back on its feet, a noble gesture by brave people Total rubbish. They are mostly economic migrants or criminals. Do you have the stats to back up that claim, I hope you haven’t been radicalised like poor Andrew Leak gov.uk May to September 2022. 42% of small boat arrivals are from Albania. 2018 to 2022 95% of Albanians arriving by small boat were male. Of the Albanian males whose asylum claims were concluded in the past year 14% were granted asylum. Full report due out 24 November, containing details of other nationalities. And they are all criminals and economic migrants? If that is the case, why aren’t they being denied asylum and sent back to Albania? Because the asylum system is broken in this country. I posted the reasons on another thread. In a nutshell: useless IT systems, poor staff performance, lax laws so anyone can claim to be "trafficked", lack of will to deal with the problem (political and from staff and unions), too many lefty lawyers with an agenda clogging up the system with spurious appeals. The asylum system should be for those few people in genuine need of protection because they have done something good which has marked them out for persecution in their home country. So Afghan interpreters, middle east LGBT activists, opposition parties in totalitarian regimes etc. It is not there to take anyone and everyone who is slightly struggling or thinks life is better elsewhere. It would be expected that people would bring their families so the normal cross section of the population would arrive. I can't believe that all the single men of working age are at risk of persecution in any country. It is hard to believe when you see these young men with designer clothes & trainers waving & smiling as they come ashore. Others with heads down & hoods up of course. We have no idea who they are. " we don't. But i would expect any asylum processing to identify them. Why do you fear that the system can be gamed ? Is everyone's system being gamed or as a poster above suggests, is this a UK issue ? Ps do you have a video title I can Google to see vids of designer goods and waving ? | |||
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"Do you have the stats to back up that claim gov.uk May to September 2022. 42% of small boat arrivals are from Albania. 2018 to 2022 95% of Albanians arriving by small boat were male. Of the Albanian males whose asylum claims were concluded in the past year 14% were granted asylum. Full report due out 24 November, containing details of other nationalities. Can you give us a link to that information? You can post gov.uk links here with no issues." https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/factsheet-small-boat-crossings-since-july-2022/factsheet-small-boat-crossings-since-july-2022 | |||
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"They have no coats, money or phones and are wearing flipflops ‘The true measure of any society can be found in how it treats its most vulnerable members ‘ They aren't members of our society. They are, they have chosen to come here and help this broken country get back on its feet, a noble gesture by brave people Total rubbish. They are mostly economic migrants or criminals. Do you have the stats to back up that claim, I hope you haven’t been radicalised like poor Andrew Leak gov.uk May to September 2022. 42% of small boat arrivals are from Albania. 2018 to 2022 95% of Albanians arriving by small boat were male. Of the Albanian males whose asylum claims were concluded in the past year 14% were granted asylum. Full report due out 24 November, containing details of other nationalities. And they are all criminals and economic migrants? If that is the case, why aren’t they being denied asylum and sent back to Albania? Because the asylum system is broken in this country. I posted the reasons on another thread. In a nutshell: useless IT systems, poor staff performance, lax laws so anyone can claim to be "trafficked", lack of will to deal with the problem (political and from staff and unions), too many lefty lawyers with an agenda clogging up the system with spurious appeals. The asylum system should be for those few people in genuine need of protection because they have done something good which has marked them out for persecution in their home country. So Afghan interpreters, middle east LGBT activists, opposition parties in totalitarian regimes etc. It is not there to take anyone and everyone who is slightly struggling or thinks life is better elsewhere. It would be expected that people would bring their families so the normal cross section of the population would arrive. I can't believe that all the single men of working age are at risk of persecution in any country. It is hard to believe when you see these young men with designer clothes & trainers waving & smiling as they come ashore. Others with heads down & hoods up of course. We have no idea who they are. " All bought with their own hard earned money. A demographic to be admired - unlike todays Brits who seem to think that paying for a phone is ‘optional’ | |||
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"They have no coats, money or phones and are wearing flipflops ‘The true measure of any society can be found in how it treats its most vulnerable members ‘ They aren't members of our society. They are, they have chosen to come here and help this broken country get back on its feet, a noble gesture by brave people Total rubbish. They are mostly economic migrants or criminals. Do you have the stats to back up that claim, I hope you haven’t been radicalised like poor Andrew Leak gov.uk May to September 2022. 42% of small boat arrivals are from Albania. 2018 to 2022 95% of Albanians arriving by small boat were male. Of the Albanian males whose asylum claims were concluded in the past year 14% were granted asylum. Full report due out 24 November, containing details of other nationalities. And they are all criminals and economic migrants? If that is the case, why aren’t they being denied asylum and sent back to Albania? Because the asylum system is broken in this country. I posted the reasons on another thread. In a nutshell: useless IT systems, poor staff performance, lax laws so anyone can claim to be "trafficked", lack of will to deal with the problem (political and from staff and unions), too many lefty lawyers with an agenda clogging up the system with spurious appeals. The asylum system should be for those few people in genuine need of protection because they have done something good which has marked them out for persecution in their home country. So Afghan interpreters, middle east LGBT activists, opposition parties in totalitarian regimes etc. It is not there to take anyone and everyone who is slightly struggling or thinks life is better elsewhere. It would be expected that people would bring their families so the normal cross section of the population would arrive. I can't believe that all the single men of working age are at risk of persecution in any country. It is hard to believe when you see these young men with designer clothes & trainers waving & smiling as they come ashore. Others with heads down & hoods up of course. We have no idea who they are. we don't. But i would expect any asylum processing to identify them. Why do you fear that the system can be gamed ? Is everyone's system being gamed or as a poster above suggests, is this a UK issue ? Ps do you have a video title I can Google to see vids of designer goods and waving ?" Just a quick look at the news reports of the guys getting off boats. The level of abuse is much higher than reported. In 2019, an ex head of border force said there is more than one million illegal immigrants in the UK, and rising at over 150,000 each year. Estimated cost to the NHS - £330 million! Our good nature, proud history of compassion & British values being abused indeed. | |||
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"They have no coats, money or phones and are wearing flipflops ‘The true measure of any society can be found in how it treats its most vulnerable members ‘ They aren't members of our society. They are, they have chosen to come here and help this broken country get back on its feet, a noble gesture by brave people Total rubbish. They are mostly economic migrants or criminals. Do you have the stats to back up that claim, I hope you haven’t been radicalised like poor Andrew Leak gov.uk May to September 2022. 42% of small boat arrivals are from Albania. 2018 to 2022 95% of Albanians arriving by small boat were male. Of the Albanian males whose asylum claims were concluded in the past year 14% were granted asylum. Full report due out 24 November, containing details of other nationalities. And they are all criminals and economic migrants? If that is the case, why aren’t they being denied asylum and sent back to Albania? Because the asylum system is broken in this country. I posted the reasons on another thread. In a nutshell: useless IT systems, poor staff performance, lax laws so anyone can claim to be "trafficked", lack of will to deal with the problem (political and from staff and unions), too many lefty lawyers with an agenda clogging up the system with spurious appeals. The asylum system should be for those few people in genuine need of protection because they have done something good which has marked them out for persecution in their home country. So Afghan interpreters, middle east LGBT activists, opposition parties in totalitarian regimes etc. It is not there to take anyone and everyone who is slightly struggling or thinks life is better elsewhere. It would be expected that people would bring their families so the normal cross section of the population would arrive. I can't believe that all the single men of working age are at risk of persecution in any country. It is hard to believe when you see these young men with designer clothes & trainers waving & smiling as they come ashore. Others with heads down & hoods up of course. We have no idea who they are. All bought with their own hard earned money. A demographic to be admired - unlike todays Brits who seem to think that paying for a phone is ‘optional’" Dear oh lord. Tedious and doesn’t make any sense. | |||
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"They have no coats, money or phones and are wearing flipflops ‘The true measure of any society can be found in how it treats its most vulnerable members ‘ They aren't members of our society. They are, they have chosen to come here and help this broken country get back on its feet, a noble gesture by brave people Total rubbish. They are mostly economic migrants or criminals. Do you have the stats to back up that claim, I hope you haven’t been radicalised like poor Andrew Leak gov.uk May to September 2022. 42% of small boat arrivals are from Albania. 2018 to 2022 95% of Albanians arriving by small boat were male. Of the Albanian males whose asylum claims were concluded in the past year 14% were granted asylum. Full report due out 24 November, containing details of other nationalities. And they are all criminals and economic migrants? If that is the case, why aren’t they being denied asylum and sent back to Albania? Because the asylum system is broken in this country. I posted the reasons on another thread. In a nutshell: useless IT systems, poor staff performance, lax laws so anyone can claim to be "trafficked", lack of will to deal with the problem (political and from staff and unions), too many lefty lawyers with an agenda clogging up the system with spurious appeals. The asylum system should be for those few people in genuine need of protection because they have done something good which has marked them out for persecution in their home country. So Afghan interpreters, middle east LGBT activists, opposition parties in totalitarian regimes etc. It is not there to take anyone and everyone who is slightly struggling or thinks life is better elsewhere. It would be expected that people would bring their families so the normal cross section of the population would arrive. I can't believe that all the single men of working age are at risk of persecution in any country. It is hard to believe when you see these young men with designer clothes & trainers waving & smiling as they come ashore. Others with heads down & hoods up of course. We have no idea who they are. All bought with their own hard earned money. A demographic to be admired - unlike todays Brits who seem to think that paying for a phone is ‘optional’" And pensioners, who expect preferential treatment and handouts | |||
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"They have no coats, money or phones and are wearing flipflops ‘The true measure of any society can be found in how it treats its most vulnerable members ‘ They aren't members of our society. They are, they have chosen to come here and help this broken country get back on its feet, a noble gesture by brave people Total rubbish. They are mostly economic migrants or criminals. Do you have the stats to back up that claim, I hope you haven’t been radicalised like poor Andrew Leak gov.uk May to September 2022. 42% of small boat arrivals are from Albania. 2018 to 2022 95% of Albanians arriving by small boat were male. Of the Albanian males whose asylum claims were concluded in the past year 14% were granted asylum. Full report due out 24 November, containing details of other nationalities. And they are all criminals and economic migrants? If that is the case, why aren’t they being denied asylum and sent back to Albania? Because the asylum system is broken in this country. I posted the reasons on another thread. In a nutshell: useless IT systems, poor staff performance, lax laws so anyone can claim to be "trafficked", lack of will to deal with the problem (political and from staff and unions), too many lefty lawyers with an agenda clogging up the system with spurious appeals. The asylum system should be for those few people in genuine need of protection because they have done something good which has marked them out for persecution in their home country. So Afghan interpreters, middle east LGBT activists, opposition parties in totalitarian regimes etc. It is not there to take anyone and everyone who is slightly struggling or thinks life is better elsewhere. It would be expected that people would bring their families so the normal cross section of the population would arrive. I can't believe that all the single men of working age are at risk of persecution in any country. It is hard to believe when you see these young men with designer clothes & trainers waving & smiling as they come ashore. Others with heads down & hoods up of course. We have no idea who they are. we don't. But i would expect any asylum processing to identify them. Why do you fear that the system can be gamed ? Is everyone's system being gamed or as a poster above suggests, is this a UK issue ? Ps do you have a video title I can Google to see vids of designer goods and waving ? Just a quick look at the news reports of the guys getting off boats. The level of abuse is much higher than reported. In 2019, an ex head of border force said there is more than one million illegal immigrants in the UK, and rising at over 150,000 each year. Estimated cost to the NHS - £330 million! Our good nature, proud history of compassion & British values being abused indeed. " Are you not "happy to be part of a community that takes care of fellow citizens less fortunate."? | |||
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"They have no coats, money or phones and are wearing flipflops ‘The true measure of any society can be found in how it treats its most vulnerable members ‘ They aren't members of our society. They are, they have chosen to come here and help this broken country get back on its feet, a noble gesture by brave people Total rubbish. They are mostly economic migrants or criminals. Do you have the stats to back up that claim, I hope you haven’t been radicalised like poor Andrew Leak gov.uk May to September 2022. 42% of small boat arrivals are from Albania. 2018 to 2022 95% of Albanians arriving by small boat were male. Of the Albanian males whose asylum claims were concluded in the past year 14% were granted asylum. Full report due out 24 November, containing details of other nationalities. And they are all criminals and economic migrants? If that is the case, why aren’t they being denied asylum and sent back to Albania? Because the asylum system is broken in this country. I posted the reasons on another thread. In a nutshell: useless IT systems, poor staff performance, lax laws so anyone can claim to be "trafficked", lack of will to deal with the problem (political and from staff and unions), too many lefty lawyers with an agenda clogging up the system with spurious appeals. The asylum system should be for those few people in genuine need of protection because they have done something good which has marked them out for persecution in their home country. So Afghan interpreters, middle east LGBT activists, opposition parties in totalitarian regimes etc. It is not there to take anyone and everyone who is slightly struggling or thinks life is better elsewhere. It would be expected that people would bring their families so the normal cross section of the population would arrive. I can't believe that all the single men of working age are at risk of persecution in any country. It is hard to believe when you see these young men with designer clothes & trainers waving & smiling as they come ashore. Others with heads down & hoods up of course. We have no idea who they are. we don't. But i would expect any asylum processing to identify them. Why do you fear that the system can be gamed ? Is everyone's system being gamed or as a poster above suggests, is this a UK issue ? Ps do you have a video title I can Google to see vids of designer goods and waving ? Just a quick look at the news reports of the guys getting off boats. The level of abuse is much higher than reported. In 2019, an ex head of border force said there is more than one million illegal immigrants in the UK, and rising at over 150,000 each year. Estimated cost to the NHS - £330 million! Our good nature, proud history of compassion & British values being abused indeed. Are you not "happy to be part of a community that takes care of fellow citizens less fortunate."?" Are you losing it? A breakdown? I have stated I am exactly that yes. A caring good guy indeed | |||
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"They have no coats, money or phones and are wearing flipflops ‘The true measure of any society can be found in how it treats its most vulnerable members ‘ They aren't members of our society. They are, they have chosen to come here and help this broken country get back on its feet, a noble gesture by brave people Total rubbish. They are mostly economic migrants or criminals. Do you have the stats to back up that claim, I hope you haven’t been radicalised like poor Andrew Leak gov.uk May to September 2022. 42% of small boat arrivals are from Albania. 2018 to 2022 95% of Albanians arriving by small boat were male. Of the Albanian males whose asylum claims were concluded in the past year 14% were granted asylum. Full report due out 24 November, containing details of other nationalities. And they are all criminals and economic migrants? If that is the case, why aren’t they being denied asylum and sent back to Albania? Because the asylum system is broken in this country. I posted the reasons on another thread. In a nutshell: useless IT systems, poor staff performance, lax laws so anyone can claim to be "trafficked", lack of will to deal with the problem (political and from staff and unions), too many lefty lawyers with an agenda clogging up the system with spurious appeals. The asylum system should be for those few people in genuine need of protection because they have done something good which has marked them out for persecution in their home country. So Afghan interpreters, middle east LGBT activists, opposition parties in totalitarian regimes etc. It is not there to take anyone and everyone who is slightly struggling or thinks life is better elsewhere. It would be expected that people would bring their families so the normal cross section of the population would arrive. I can't believe that all the single men of working age are at risk of persecution in any country. It is hard to believe when you see these young men with designer clothes & trainers waving & smiling as they come ashore. Others with heads down & hoods up of course. We have no idea who they are. we don't. But i would expect any asylum processing to identify them. Why do you fear that the system can be gamed ? Is everyone's system being gamed or as a poster above suggests, is this a UK issue ? Ps do you have a video title I can Google to see vids of designer goods and waving ? Just a quick look at the news reports of the guys getting off boats. The level of abuse is much higher than reported. In 2019, an ex head of border force said there is more than one million illegal immigrants in the UK, and rising at over 150,000 each year. Estimated cost to the NHS - £330 million! Our good nature, proud history of compassion & British values being abused indeed. Are you not "happy to be part of a community that takes care of fellow citizens less fortunate."? Are you losing it? A breakdown? I have stated I am exactly that yes. A caring good guy indeed " But we are not talking about dangerous radicalised foriegners. This was clearly a lighthearted thread, in poor taste in my opinion but it’s turned into the usual rabid pack piss take. I’m more worried about Chelsea on Sunday | |||
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"They have no coats, money or phones and are wearing flipflops ‘The true measure of any society can be found in how it treats its most vulnerable members ‘ They aren't members of our society. They are, they have chosen to come here and help this broken country get back on its feet, a noble gesture by brave people Total rubbish. They are mostly economic migrants or criminals. Do you have the stats to back up that claim, I hope you haven’t been radicalised like poor Andrew Leak gov.uk May to September 2022. 42% of small boat arrivals are from Albania. 2018 to 2022 95% of Albanians arriving by small boat were male. Of the Albanian males whose asylum claims were concluded in the past year 14% were granted asylum. Full report due out 24 November, containing details of other nationalities. And they are all criminals and economic migrants? If that is the case, why aren’t they being denied asylum and sent back to Albania? Because the asylum system is broken in this country. I posted the reasons on another thread. In a nutshell: useless IT systems, poor staff performance, lax laws so anyone can claim to be "trafficked", lack of will to deal with the problem (political and from staff and unions), too many lefty lawyers with an agenda clogging up the system with spurious appeals. The asylum system should be for those few people in genuine need of protection because they have done something good which has marked them out for persecution in their home country. So Afghan interpreters, middle east LGBT activists, opposition parties in totalitarian regimes etc. It is not there to take anyone and everyone who is slightly struggling or thinks life is better elsewhere. It would be expected that people would bring their families so the normal cross section of the population would arrive. I can't believe that all the single men of working age are at risk of persecution in any country. It is hard to believe when you see these young men with designer clothes & trainers waving & smiling as they come ashore. Others with heads down & hoods up of course. We have no idea who they are. we don't. But i would expect any asylum processing to identify them. Why do you fear that the system can be gamed ? Is everyone's system being gamed or as a poster above suggests, is this a UK issue ? Ps do you have a video title I can Google to see vids of designer goods and waving ? Just a quick look at the news reports of the guys getting off boats. The level of abuse is much higher than reported. In 2019, an ex head of border force said there is more than one million illegal immigrants in the UK, and rising at over 150,000 each year. Estimated cost to the NHS - £330 million! Our good nature, proud history of compassion & British values being abused indeed. " I have seen videos. None have been of sufgxint quality for me to say they have designer gear on. I haven't seen waving either tbh. Help a fella out here! I am sure there are people staying in the Uk illegaly. Probably through out staying their visas. That's nothing to do with those seeking asylum tho is it ? Why all threads on asylum seekers and boat people when there is 5x more people staying illegally elsewhere. Shouldn't that be your focus ? I'd wager there are more "bad people" in that group. | |||
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"They have no coats, money or phones and are wearing flipflops ‘The true measure of any society can be found in how it treats its most vulnerable members ‘ They aren't members of our society. They are, they have chosen to come here and help this broken country get back on its feet, a noble gesture by brave people Total rubbish. They are mostly economic migrants or criminals. Do you have the stats to back up that claim, I hope you haven’t been radicalised like poor Andrew Leak gov.uk May to September 2022. 42% of small boat arrivals are from Albania. 2018 to 2022 95% of Albanians arriving by small boat were male. Of the Albanian males whose asylum claims were concluded in the past year 14% were granted asylum. Full report due out 24 November, containing details of other nationalities. And they are all criminals and economic migrants? If that is the case, why aren’t they being denied asylum and sent back to Albania? Because the asylum system is broken in this country. I posted the reasons on another thread. In a nutshell: useless IT systems, poor staff performance, lax laws so anyone can claim to be "trafficked", lack of will to deal with the problem (political and from staff and unions), too many lefty lawyers with an agenda clogging up the system with spurious appeals. The asylum system should be for those few people in genuine need of protection because they have done something good which has marked them out for persecution in their home country. So Afghan interpreters, middle east LGBT activists, opposition parties in totalitarian regimes etc. It is not there to take anyone and everyone who is slightly struggling or thinks life is better elsewhere. It would be expected that people would bring their families so the normal cross section of the population would arrive. I can't believe that all the single men of working age are at risk of persecution in any country. It is hard to believe when you see these young men with designer clothes & trainers waving & smiling as they come ashore. Others with heads down & hoods up of course. We have no idea who they are. we don't. But i would expect any asylum processing to identify them. Why do you fear that the system can be gamed ? Is everyone's system being gamed or as a poster above suggests, is this a UK issue ? Ps do you have a video title I can Google to see vids of designer goods and waving ? Just a quick look at the news reports of the guys getting off boats. The level of abuse is much higher than reported. In 2019, an ex head of border force said there is more than one million illegal immigrants in the UK, and rising at over 150,000 each year. Estimated cost to the NHS - £330 million! Our good nature, proud history of compassion & British values being abused indeed. Are you not "happy to be part of a community that takes care of fellow citizens less fortunate."? Are you losing it? A breakdown? I have stated I am exactly that yes. A caring good guy indeed But we are not talking about dangerous radicalised foriegners. This was clearly a lighthearted thread, in poor taste in my opinion but it’s turned into the usual rabid pack piss take. I’m more worried about Chelsea on Sunday" Chelsea pensioners ? | |||
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"They have no coats, money or phones and are wearing flipflops ‘The true measure of any society can be found in how it treats its most vulnerable members ‘ They aren't members of our society. They are, they have chosen to come here and help this broken country get back on its feet, a noble gesture by brave people Total rubbish. They are mostly economic migrants or criminals. Do you have the stats to back up that claim, I hope you haven’t been radicalised like poor Andrew Leak gov.uk May to September 2022. 42% of small boat arrivals are from Albania. 2018 to 2022 95% of Albanians arriving by small boat were male. Of the Albanian males whose asylum claims were concluded in the past year 14% were granted asylum. Full report due out 24 November, containing details of other nationalities. And they are all criminals and economic migrants? If that is the case, why aren’t they being denied asylum and sent back to Albania? Because the asylum system is broken in this country. I posted the reasons on another thread. In a nutshell: useless IT systems, poor staff performance, lax laws so anyone can claim to be "trafficked", lack of will to deal with the problem (political and from staff and unions), too many lefty lawyers with an agenda clogging up the system with spurious appeals. The asylum system should be for those few people in genuine need of protection because they have done something good which has marked them out for persecution in their home country. So Afghan interpreters, middle east LGBT activists, opposition parties in totalitarian regimes etc. It is not there to take anyone and everyone who is slightly struggling or thinks life is better elsewhere. It would be expected that people would bring their families so the normal cross section of the population would arrive. I can't believe that all the single men of working age are at risk of persecution in any country. It is hard to believe when you see these young men with designer clothes & trainers waving & smiling as they come ashore. Others with heads down & hoods up of course. We have no idea who they are. we don't. But i would expect any asylum processing to identify them. Why do you fear that the system can be gamed ? Is everyone's system being gamed or as a poster above suggests, is this a UK issue ? Ps do you have a video title I can Google to see vids of designer goods and waving ? Just a quick look at the news reports of the guys getting off boats. The level of abuse is much higher than reported. In 2019, an ex head of border force said there is more than one million illegal immigrants in the UK, and rising at over 150,000 each year. Estimated cost to the NHS - £330 million! Our good nature, proud history of compassion & British values being abused indeed. Are you not "happy to be part of a community that takes care of fellow citizens less fortunate."? Are you losing it? A breakdown? I have stated I am exactly that yes. A caring good guy indeed But we are not talking about dangerous radicalised foriegners. This was clearly a lighthearted thread, in poor taste in my opinion but it’s turned into the usual rabid pack piss take. I’m more worried about Chelsea on Sunday" Fellow Fabbers - any idea what this guy is on? What he’s trying to achieve? | |||
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"Can you give us a link to that information? You can post gov.uk links here with no issues." "https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/factsheet-small-boat-crossings-since-july-2022/factsheet-small-boat-crossings-since-july-2022" Thank you very much. It's always better to have the facts to hand. | |||
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"Leaky Sue's notorious leaking is not the only reason she has to go. The situation @ Manston looks awful. And that's within the purview of Braverman. Suella being criticised for her language can you believe? It is an invasion, it is a myth that they are genuine asylum seekers. Why do we criticise our politicians when they call it out as it is . We should support politicians more. " You do know that the majority of Albanians coming here illegally are not claiming asylum, don't you? Did that fact pass you by? There is no "invasion". Are they trying to take anything from us? Land, property? This language just brands all Albanians as an enemy, even if they have been here for years. Just as Brexit did. A distraction from things going wrong. Again, are you able to explain how doubling down on the system that caused this problem will improve the situation? | |||
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"Leaky Sue's notorious leaking is not the only reason she has to go. The situation @ Manston looks awful. And that's within the purview of Braverman. Suella being criticised for her language can you believe? It is an invasion, it is a myth that they are genuine asylum seekers. Why do we criticise our politicians when they call it out as it is . We should support politicians more. You do know that the majority of Albanians coming here illegally are not claiming asylum, don't you? Did that fact pass you by? There is no "invasion". Are they trying to take anything from us? Land, property? This language just brands all Albanians as an enemy, even if they have been here for years. Just as Brexit did. A distraction from things going wrong. Again, are you able to explain how doubling down on the system that caused this problem will improve the situation?" I'm pretty sure the Albanians are providing a service that lots of people want, cannabis and cheap "companions". Some would see that as a benefit though I'm not convinced that society as a whole does. | |||
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"They have no coats, money or phones and are wearing flipflops ‘The true measure of any society can be found in how it treats its most vulnerable members ‘ They aren't members of our society. They are, they have chosen to come here and help this broken country get back on its feet, a noble gesture by brave people Total rubbish. They are mostly economic migrants or criminals. Do you have the stats to back up that claim, I hope you haven’t been radicalised like poor Andrew Leak gov.uk May to September 2022. 42% of small boat arrivals are from Albania. 2018 to 2022 95% of Albanians arriving by small boat were male. Of the Albanian males whose asylum claims were concluded in the past year 14% were granted asylum. Full report due out 24 November, containing details of other nationalities. And they are all criminals and economic migrants? If that is the case, why aren’t they being denied asylum and sent back to Albania? Because the asylum system is broken in this country. I posted the reasons on another thread. In a nutshell: useless IT systems, poor staff performance, lax laws so anyone can claim to be "trafficked", lack of will to deal with the problem (political and from staff and unions), too many lefty lawyers with an agenda clogging up the system with spurious appeals. The asylum system should be for those few people in genuine need of protection because they have done something good which has marked them out for persecution in their home country. So Afghan interpreters, middle east LGBT activists, opposition parties in totalitarian regimes etc. It is not there to take anyone and everyone who is slightly struggling or thinks life is better elsewhere. It would be expected that people would bring their families so the normal cross section of the population would arrive. I can't believe that all the single men of working age are at risk of persecution in any country. It is hard to believe when you see these young men with designer clothes & trainers waving & smiling as they come ashore. Others with heads down & hoods up of course. We have no idea who they are. we don't. But i would expect any asylum processing to identify them. Why do you fear that the system can be gamed ? Is everyone's system being gamed or as a poster above suggests, is this a UK issue ? Ps do you have a video title I can Google to see vids of designer goods and waving ? Just a quick look at the news reports of the guys getting off boats. The level of abuse is much higher than reported. In 2019, an ex head of border force said there is more than one million illegal immigrants in the UK, and rising at over 150,000 each year. Estimated cost to the NHS - £330 million! Our good nature, proud history of compassion & British values being abused indeed. " What relevance do your figures have to refugees appealing for asylum most of whom are granted it? Are you deliberately associating the two? Who on this thread, or anywhere else, supports people without good cause staying here? What point are you making? The UK policy has conspicuously failed. Why would doing more of the same improve anything? | |||
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"Leaky Sue's notorious leaking is not the only reason she has to go. The situation @ Manston looks awful. And that's within the purview of Braverman. Suella being criticised for her language can you believe? It is an invasion, it is a myth that they are genuine asylum seekers. Why do we criticise our politicians when they call it out as it is . We should support politicians more. You do know that the majority of Albanians coming here illegally are not claiming asylum, don't you? Did that fact pass you by? There is no "invasion". Are they trying to take anything from us? Land, property? This language just brands all Albanians as an enemy, even if they have been here for years. Just as Brexit did. A distraction from things going wrong. Again, are you able to explain how doubling down on the system that caused this problem will improve the situation? I'm pretty sure the Albanians are providing a service that lots of people want, cannabis and cheap "companions". Some would see that as a benefit though I'm not convinced that society as a whole does." You are "pretty sure" are you? People were "pretty sure" about what rights black people and women should have as well. Why would Albanians bother to travel to the UK to be criminals if they can do it far more easily in the EU? | |||
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"They have no coats, money or phones and are wearing flipflops ‘The true measure of any society can be found in how it treats its most vulnerable members ‘ They aren't members of our society. They are, they have chosen to come here and help this broken country get back on its feet, a noble gesture by brave people Total rubbish. They are mostly economic migrants or criminals. Do you have the stats to back up that claim, I hope you haven’t been radicalised like poor Andrew Leak gov.uk May to September 2022. 42% of small boat arrivals are from Albania. 2018 to 2022 95% of Albanians arriving by small boat were male. Of the Albanian males whose asylum claims were concluded in the past year 14% were granted asylum. Full report due out 24 November, containing details of other nationalities. And they are all criminals and economic migrants? If that is the case, why aren’t they being denied asylum and sent back to Albania? Because the asylum system is broken in this country. I posted the reasons on another thread. In a nutshell: useless IT systems, poor staff performance, lax laws so anyone can claim to be "trafficked", lack of will to deal with the problem (political and from staff and unions), too many lefty lawyers with an agenda clogging up the system with spurious appeals. The asylum system should be for those few people in genuine need of protection because they have done something good which has marked them out for persecution in their home country. So Afghan interpreters, middle east LGBT activists, opposition parties in totalitarian regimes etc. It is not there to take anyone and everyone who is slightly struggling or thinks life is better elsewhere. It would be expected that people would bring their families so the normal cross section of the population would arrive. I can't believe that all the single men of working age are at risk of persecution in any country. It is hard to believe when you see these young men with designer clothes & trainers waving & smiling as they come ashore. Others with heads down & hoods up of course. We have no idea who they are. " "Designer clothes"? Really? You have been able to identify this have you? Waving and smiling? All of them? The majority? One? None? Please share some sources which indicate anything other than this being made up. | |||
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"They have no coats, money or phones and are wearing flipflops ‘The true measure of any society can be found in how it treats its most vulnerable members ‘ Quite, it's time that Albania and France started doing their bit for these vulnerable people." France and Germany seem capable of returning Albanians involved in illegal activity to Albania. Why can't we? You do know that the majority of Albanians are not claiming asylum when apprehended, don't you? | |||
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"Leaky Sue's notorious leaking is not the only reason she has to go. The situation @ Manston looks awful. And that's within the purview of Braverman. Suella being criticised for her language can you believe? It is an invasion, it is a myth that they are genuine asylum seekers. Why do we criticise our politicians when they call it out as it is . We should support politicians more. You do know that the majority of Albanians coming here illegally are not claiming asylum, don't you? Did that fact pass you by? There is no "invasion". Are they trying to take anything from us? Land, property? This language just brands all Albanians as an enemy, even if they have been here for years. Just as Brexit did. A distraction from things going wrong. Again, are you able to explain how doubling down on the system that caused this problem will improve the situation? I'm pretty sure the Albanians are providing a service that lots of people want, cannabis and cheap "companions". Some would see that as a benefit though I'm not convinced that society as a whole does. You are "pretty sure" are you? People were "pretty sure" about what rights black people and women should have as well. Why would Albanians bother to travel to the UK to be criminals if they can do it far more easily in the EU?" Sure, there are no Albanian criminals operating in the UK. Just a bunch of doctors hopping on a dinghy to help out in the NHS. | |||
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"They have no coats, money or phones and are wearing flipflops ‘The true measure of any society can be found in how it treats its most vulnerable members ‘ They aren't members of our society. They are, they have chosen to come here and help this broken country get back on its feet, a noble gesture by brave people Total rubbish. They are mostly economic migrants or criminals. Do you have the stats to back up that claim, I hope you haven’t been radicalised like poor Andrew Leak gov.uk May to September 2022. 42% of small boat arrivals are from Albania. 2018 to 2022 95% of Albanians arriving by small boat were male. Of the Albanian males whose asylum claims were concluded in the past year 14% were granted asylum. Full report due out 24 November, containing details of other nationalities. And they are all criminals and economic migrants? If that is the case, why aren’t they being denied asylum and sent back to Albania? Because the asylum system is broken in this country. I posted the reasons on another thread. In a nutshell: useless IT systems, poor staff performance, lax laws so anyone can claim to be "trafficked", lack of will to deal with the problem (political and from staff and unions), too many lefty lawyers with an agenda clogging up the system with spurious appeals. The asylum system should be for those few people in genuine need of protection because they have done something good which has marked them out for persecution in their home country. So Afghan interpreters, middle east LGBT activists, opposition parties in totalitarian regimes etc. It is not there to take anyone and everyone who is slightly struggling or thinks life is better elsewhere. It would be expected that people would bring their families so the normal cross section of the population would arrive. I can't believe that all the single men of working age are at risk of persecution in any country." Some of your points are perfectly valid. Some are some sort of a fever dream. There are not hordes of "lefty lawyers". The law is applied as it exists. We have had an anti-immigration Government in place for over a decade. Legislation could have been changed by now but it hasn't because what has been proposed to replace it would cause a problem to your rights as much as anyone else's. However, do provide some evidence of "spurious appeals clogging up the system". Just thinking something is so, or reading a newspaper article doesn't make it so. Where's the actual data? There is, allegedly, a political will to stop illegal immigration, but it has been focused on closing all legal routes for refugees, this making the only method of them getting here on small boats with illegal gangs. This enables a route for those who are economic migrants and a small number of criminals. If legal routes for refugees were available it is very straightforward to return everyone who does not apply this way to be sent back to close to where they originated and excluded from applying having to apply but with a mark against them. How can you say that single men if working age aren't at risk anywhere? They are the ones most likely to rise up and fight against a cruel regime. Who do you thing was doing the fighting against Assad and Daiesh in Syria, old women and pregnant women? | |||
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"Leaky Sue's notorious leaking is not the only reason she has to go. The situation @ Manston looks awful. And that's within the purview of Braverman. Suella being criticised for her language can you believe? It is an invasion, it is a myth that they are genuine asylum seekers. Why do we criticise our politicians when they call it out as it is . We should support politicians more. You do know that the majority of Albanians coming here illegally are not claiming asylum, don't you? Did that fact pass you by? There is no "invasion". Are they trying to take anything from us? Land, property? This language just brands all Albanians as an enemy, even if they have been here for years. Just as Brexit did. A distraction from things going wrong. Again, are you able to explain how doubling down on the system that caused this problem will improve the situation? I'm pretty sure the Albanians are providing a service that lots of people want, cannabis and cheap "companions". Some would see that as a benefit though I'm not convinced that society as a whole does. You are "pretty sure" are you? People were "pretty sure" about what rights black people and women should have as well. Why would Albanians bother to travel to the UK to be criminals if they can do it far more easily in the EU? Sure, there are no Albanian criminals operating in the UK. Just a bunch of doctors hopping on a dinghy to help out in the NHS." Except nobody has claimed that either. Try harder. Why are so many Albanians coming here to engage in criminal activity rather than the entirety of the rest of Europe? They are not claiming benefits or asylum, are they? | |||
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"Leaky Sue's notorious leaking is not the only reason she has to go. The situation @ Manston looks awful. And that's within the purview of Braverman. Suella being criticised for her language can you believe? It is an invasion, it is a myth that they are genuine asylum seekers. Why do we criticise our politicians when they call it out as it is . We should support politicians more. You do know that the majority of Albanians coming here illegally are not claiming asylum, don't you? Did that fact pass you by? There is no "invasion". Are they trying to take anything from us? Land, property? This language just brands all Albanians as an enemy, even if they have been here for years. Just as Brexit did. A distraction from things going wrong. Again, are you able to explain how doubling down on the system that caused this problem will improve the situation?" What do you mean ‘doubling down on the system that caused this problem’ They are uninvited and arrive by illegal means. Why do we not send them straight back and invoice them or Albania for our time and inconvenience? | |||
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"Leaky Sue's notorious leaking is not the only reason she has to go. The situation @ Manston looks awful. And that's within the purview of Braverman. Suella being criticised for her language can you believe? It is an invasion, it is a myth that they are genuine asylum seekers. Why do we criticise our politicians when they call it out as it is . We should support politicians more. You do know that the majority of Albanians coming here illegally are not claiming asylum, don't you? Did that fact pass you by? There is no "invasion". Are they trying to take anything from us? Land, property? This language just brands all Albanians as an enemy, even if they have been here for years. Just as Brexit did. A distraction from things going wrong. Again, are you able to explain how doubling down on the system that caused this problem will improve the situation? What do you mean ‘doubling down on the system that caused this problem’ They are uninvited and arrive by illegal means. Why do we not send them straight back and invoice them or Albania for our time and inconvenience? " Have you seen the Newsnight interview with president of Albania? One of the most interesting points he made was that the respective Civil Services and Police had been working well together to identify, out and return home the criminal elements. Then British politicians got involved and fucked it all up! His advice...leave it to the experts/professionals and politicians need to back off! | |||
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"Leaky Sue's notorious leaking is not the only reason she has to go. The situation @ Manston looks awful. And that's within the purview of Braverman. Suella being criticised for her language can you believe? It is an invasion, it is a myth that they are genuine asylum seekers. Why do we criticise our politicians when they call it out as it is . We should support politicians more. You do know that the majority of Albanians coming here illegally are not claiming asylum, don't you? Did that fact pass you by? There is no "invasion". Are they trying to take anything from us? Land, property? This language just brands all Albanians as an enemy, even if they have been here for years. Just as Brexit did. A distraction from things going wrong. Again, are you able to explain how doubling down on the system that caused this problem will improve the situation? What do you mean ‘doubling down on the system that caused this problem’ They are uninvited and arrive by illegal means. Why do we not send them straight back and invoice them or Albania for our time and inconvenience? Have you seen the Newsnight interview with president of Albania? One of the most interesting points he made was that the respective Civil Services and Police had been working well together to identify, out and return home the criminal elements. Then British politicians got involved and fucked it all up! His advice...leave it to the experts/professionals and politicians need to back off!" I thought everyone understood that politics is all about division hate fear and debt which may I add is what we have. Politics in the UK is thriving and to design. | |||
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"Leaky Sue's notorious leaking is not the only reason she has to go. The situation @ Manston looks awful. And that's within the purview of Braverman. Suella being criticised for her language can you believe? It is an invasion, it is a myth that they are genuine asylum seekers. Why do we criticise our politicians when they call it out as it is . We should support politicians more. You do know that the majority of Albanians coming here illegally are not claiming asylum, don't you? Did that fact pass you by? There is no "invasion". Are they trying to take anything from us? Land, property? This language just brands all Albanians as an enemy, even if they have been here for years. Just as Brexit did. A distraction from things going wrong. Again, are you able to explain how doubling down on the system that caused this problem will improve the situation? What do you mean ‘doubling down on the system that caused this problem’ They are uninvited and arrive by illegal means. Why do we not send them straight back and invoice them or Albania for our time and inconvenience? " Once again, skip the parts that are tricky to answer
What are these Albanians taking from us that makes them invaders?
Why characterise Albanians as enemies and vilify an entire people to the point where their Prime Minister an President have to comment on our country's rhetoric?
Are the majority of these Albanians actually claiming asylum or benefits?
Doubling down on the failed UK immigration policy that is fsiling. The Home Secretary has said as much in Parliament. Her own party's decade long approach has failed.
The policy that has been focused on eliminating legal routes for refugees but cannot return non-refugees to a country that will take them back and France and Germany seem able to manage to do.
Doubling down on that failed policy. | |||
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"Leaky Sue's notorious leaking is not the only reason she has to go. The situation @ Manston looks awful. And that's within the purview of Braverman. Suella being criticised for her language can you believe? It is an invasion, it is a myth that they are genuine asylum seekers. Why do we criticise our politicians when they call it out as it is . We should support politicians more. You do know that the majority of Albanians coming here illegally are not claiming asylum, don't you? Did that fact pass you by? There is no "invasion". Are they trying to take anything from us? Land, property? This language just brands all Albanians as an enemy, even if they have been here for years. Just as Brexit did. A distraction from things going wrong. Again, are you able to explain how doubling down on the system that caused this problem will improve the situation? What do you mean ‘doubling down on the system that caused this problem’ They are uninvited and arrive by illegal means. Why do we not send them straight back and invoice them or Albania for our time and inconvenience? Once again, skip the parts that are tricky to answer
What are these Albanians taking from us that makes them invaders?
Why characterise Albanians as enemies and vilify an entire people to the point where their Prime Minister an President have to comment on our country's rhetoric?
Are the majority of these Albanians actually claiming asylum or benefits?
Doubling down on the failed UK immigration policy that is fsiling. The Home Secretary has said as much in Parliament. Her own party's decade long approach has failed.
The policy that has been focused on eliminating legal routes for refugees but cannot return non-refugees to a country that will take them back and France and Germany seem able to manage to do.
Doubling down on that failed policy."It’s not failing. It’s been overwhelmed by unwanted uninvited people taking advantage | |||
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"Leaky Sue's notorious leaking is not the only reason she has to go. The situation @ Manston looks awful. And that's within the purview of Braverman. Suella being criticised for her language can you believe? It is an invasion, it is a myth that they are genuine asylum seekers. Why do we criticise our politicians when they call it out as it is . We should support politicians more. You do know that the majority of Albanians coming here illegally are not claiming asylum, don't you? Did that fact pass you by? There is no "invasion". Are they trying to take anything from us? Land, property? This language just brands all Albanians as an enemy, even if they have been here for years. Just as Brexit did. A distraction from things going wrong. Again, are you able to explain how doubling down on the system that caused this problem will improve the situation? What do you mean ‘doubling down on the system that caused this problem’ They are uninvited and arrive by illegal means. Why do we not send them straight back and invoice them or Albania for our time and inconvenience? Once again, skip the parts that are tricky to answer
What are these Albanians taking from us that makes them invaders?
Why characterise Albanians as enemies and vilify an entire people to the point where their Prime Minister an President have to comment on our country's rhetoric?
Are the majority of these Albanians actually claiming asylum or benefits?
Doubling down on the failed UK immigration policy that is fsiling. The Home Secretary has said as much in Parliament. Her own party's decade long approach has failed.
The policy that has been focused on eliminating legal routes for refugees but cannot return non-refugees to a country that will take them back and France and Germany seem able to manage to do.
Doubling down on that failed policy.
It’s not failing. It’s been overwhelmed by unwanted uninvited people taking advantage "why not both? The backlog has been increasing since 2010. And really started escalating about 2015. Over 10 years it went from about 5k to 60k. Sure the 40k we have seen this year has added it to it more than previous years. But it's simoly added more gas onto a raging fire. The idea that this "invasion" was the cause of the fire is false. That people think the sytsme was okay until now shows some of tej media sleight of hand is working. | |||
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"Oh I think we all know that the lazy characterisation of foreigners is a by product of spending too much time in the tap room don’t we - piss and wind they used to call it when I was a lad - there’s another name for it now!" You never really make any sense. Are you trying too hard to appear ‘smart’ or do you operate to some sort of code? | |||
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"Oh I think we all know that the lazy characterisation of foreigners is a by product of spending too much time in the tap room don’t we - piss and wind they used to call it when I was a lad - there’s another name for it now!" Worryingly , they are a hot bed for radicalisation , the police need to keep a very close eye on these places | |||
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"Oh I think we all know that the lazy characterisation of foreigners is a by product of spending too much time in the tap room don’t we - piss and wind they used to call it when I was a lad - there’s another name for it now! You never really make any sense. Are you trying too hard to appear ‘smart’ or do you operate to some sort of code?" Let’s be honest now! The majority of your posts are pushing a white British Faragist agenda and I think that you’re more than clever enough to know that your disingenuous posts are designed to trigger and disrupt the flow on here. As for your previous assertion that there are a pack of us who gather and share information on how to attack and pick on you well frankly that just sounds paranoid and as well you know you have your own tribe on here who are more than willing to join in with you | |||
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"Oh I think we all know that the lazy characterisation of foreigners is a by product of spending too much time in the tap room don’t we - piss and wind they used to call it when I was a lad - there’s another name for it now! You never really make any sense. Are you trying too hard to appear ‘smart’ or do you operate to some sort of code? Let’s be honest now! The majority of your posts are pushing a white British Faragist agenda and I think that you’re more than clever enough to know that your disingenuous posts are designed to trigger and disrupt the flow on here. As for your previous assertion that there are a pack of us who gather and share information on how to attack and pick on you well frankly that just sounds paranoid and as well you know you have your own tribe on here who are more than willing to join in with you "At last, something I understand. Wrong of course though. I have never pushed a white British agenda. | |||
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"Oh I think we all know that the lazy characterisation of foreigners is a by product of spending too much time in the tap room don’t we - piss and wind they used to call it when I was a lad - there’s another name for it now! You never really make any sense. Are you trying too hard to appear ‘smart’ or do you operate to some sort of code? Let’s be honest now! The majority of your posts are pushing a white British Faragist agenda and I think that you’re more than clever enough to know that your disingenuous posts are designed to trigger and disrupt the flow on here. As for your previous assertion that there are a pack of us who gather and share information on how to attack and pick on you well frankly that just sounds paranoid and as well you know you have your own tribe on here who are more than willing to join in with you
At last, something I understand. Wrong of course though. I have never pushed a white British agenda. "Of course you haven’t | |||
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"Oh I think we all know that the lazy characterisation of foreigners is a by product of spending too much time in the tap room don’t we - piss and wind they used to call it when I was a lad - there’s another name for it now! You never really make any sense. Are you trying too hard to appear ‘smart’ or do you operate to some sort of code? Let’s be honest now! The majority of your posts are pushing a white British Faragist agenda and I think that you’re more than clever enough to know that your disingenuous posts are designed to trigger and disrupt the flow on here. As for your previous assertion that there are a pack of us who gather and share information on how to attack and pick on you well frankly that just sounds paranoid and as well you know you have your own tribe on here who are more than willing to join in with you
At last, something I understand. Wrong of course though. I have never pushed a white British agenda.
Of course you haven’t "Are you saying you are Anti white British then? | |||
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"Leaky Sue's notorious leaking is not the only reason she has to go. The situation @ Manston looks awful. And that's within the purview of Braverman. Suella being criticised for her language can you believe? It is an invasion, it is a myth that they are genuine asylum seekers. Why do we criticise our politicians when they call it out as it is . We should support politicians more. You do know that the majority of Albanians coming here illegally are not claiming asylum, don't you? Did that fact pass you by? There is no "invasion". Are they trying to take anything from us? Land, property? This language just brands all Albanians as an enemy, even if they have been here for years. Just as Brexit did. A distraction from things going wrong. Again, are you able to explain how doubling down on the system that caused this problem will improve the situation? What do you mean ‘doubling down on the system that caused this problem’ They are uninvited and arrive by illegal means. Why do we not send them straight back and invoice them or Albania for our time and inconvenience? Once again, skip the parts that are tricky to answer
What are these Albanians taking from us that makes them invaders?
Why characterise Albanians as enemies and vilify an entire people to the point where their Prime Minister an President have to comment on our country's rhetoric?
Are the majority of these Albanians actually claiming asylum or benefits?
Doubling down on the failed UK immigration policy that is fsiling. The Home Secretary has said as much in Parliament. Her own party's decade long approach has failed.
The policy that has been focused on eliminating legal routes for refugees but cannot return non-refugees to a country that will take them back and France and Germany seem able to manage to do.
Doubling down on that failed policy.
It’s not failing. It’s been overwhelmed by unwanted uninvited people taking advantage ""Garbled nonsense" - you. | |||
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"Leaky Sue's notorious leaking is not the only reason she has to go. The situation @ Manston looks awful. And that's within the purview of Braverman. Suella being criticised for her language can you believe? It is an invasion, it is a myth that they are genuine asylum seekers. Why do we criticise our politicians when they call it out as it is . We should support politicians more. You do know that the majority of Albanians coming here illegally are not claiming asylum, don't you? Did that fact pass you by? There is no "invasion". Are they trying to take anything from us? Land, property? This language just brands all Albanians as an enemy, even if they have been here for years. Just as Brexit did. A distraction from things going wrong. Again, are you able to explain how doubling down on the system that caused this problem will improve the situation? What do you mean ‘doubling down on the system that caused this problem’ They are uninvited and arrive by illegal means. Why do we not send them straight back and invoice them or Albania for our time and inconvenience? Once again, skip the parts that are tricky to answer
What are these Albanians taking from us that makes them invaders?
Why characterise Albanians as enemies and vilify an entire people to the point where their Prime Minister an President have to comment on our country's rhetoric?
Are the majority of these Albanians actually claiming asylum or benefits?
Doubling down on the failed UK immigration policy that is fsiling. The Home Secretary has said as much in Parliament. Her own party's decade long approach has failed.
The policy that has been focused on eliminating legal routes for refugees but cannot return non-refugees to a country that will take them back and France and Germany seem able to manage to do.
Doubling down on that failed policy.
It’s not failing. It’s been overwhelmed by unwanted uninvited people taking advantage
"Garbled nonsense" - you."Why do you keep rehashing some of my words? What are you trying to achieve here? You are not adding to the debate. | |||
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"Leaky Sue's notorious leaking is not the only reason she has to go. The situation @ Manston looks awful. And that's within the purview of Braverman. Suella being criticised for her language can you believe? It is an invasion, it is a myth that they are genuine asylum seekers. Why do we criticise our politicians when they call it out as it is . We should support politicians more. You do know that the majority of Albanians coming here illegally are not claiming asylum, don't you? Did that fact pass you by? There is no "invasion". Are they trying to take anything from us? Land, property? This language just brands all Albanians as an enemy, even if they have been here for years. Just as Brexit did. A distraction from things going wrong. Again, are you able to explain how doubling down on the system that caused this problem will improve the situation? What do you mean ‘doubling down on the system that caused this problem’ They are uninvited and arrive by illegal means. Why do we not send them straight back and invoice them or Albania for our time and inconvenience? Once again, skip the parts that are tricky to answer
What are these Albanians taking from us that makes them invaders?
Why characterise Albanians as enemies and vilify an entire people to the point where their Prime Minister an President have to comment on our country's rhetoric?
Are the majority of these Albanians actually claiming asylum or benefits?
Doubling down on the failed UK immigration policy that is fsiling. The Home Secretary has said as much in Parliament. Her own party's decade long approach has failed.
The policy that has been focused on eliminating legal routes for refugees but cannot return non-refugees to a country that will take them back and France and Germany seem able to manage to do.
Doubling down on that failed policy.
It’s not failing. It’s been overwhelmed by unwanted uninvited people taking advantage "By definition it has failed. It is supposed to prevent this. I'm still waiting for you, or anyone else, to explain how stopping all legitimate routes for refugees to travel to seek asylum or removing people granted asylum to Rwanda helps prevent economic migrants or some number of "criminals" from coming to the UK. | |||
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"Leaky Sue's notorious leaking is not the only reason she has to go. The situation @ Manston looks awful. And that's within the purview of Braverman. Suella being criticised for her language can you believe? It is an invasion, it is a myth that they are genuine asylum seekers. Why do we criticise our politicians when they call it out as it is . We should support politicians more. You do know that the majority of Albanians coming here illegally are not claiming asylum, don't you? Did that fact pass you by? There is no "invasion". Are they trying to take anything from us? Land, property? This language just brands all Albanians as an enemy, even if they have been here for years. Just as Brexit did. A distraction from things going wrong. Again, are you able to explain how doubling down on the system that caused this problem will improve the situation? What do you mean ‘doubling down on the system that caused this problem’ They are uninvited and arrive by illegal means. Why do we not send them straight back and invoice them or Albania for our time and inconvenience? Once again, skip the parts that are tricky to answer
What are these Albanians taking from us that makes them invaders?
Why characterise Albanians as enemies and vilify an entire people to the point where their Prime Minister an President have to comment on our country's rhetoric?
Are the majority of these Albanians actually claiming asylum or benefits?
Doubling down on the failed UK immigration policy that is fsiling. The Home Secretary has said as much in Parliament. Her own party's decade long approach has failed.
The policy that has been focused on eliminating legal routes for refugees but cannot return non-refugees to a country that will take them back and France and Germany seem able to manage to do.
Doubling down on that failed policy.
It’s not failing. It’s been overwhelmed by unwanted uninvited people taking advantage
"Garbled nonsense" - you.
Why do you keep rehashing some of my words?
What are you trying to achieve here? You are not adding to the debate."Demonstrates that you consistently post "garbled nonsense". Then faux outrage when people call you out. Now you're calling yourself out. | |||
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