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"Thoughts? He came 2nd to Liz and look how bad she did. Alot of the Party didnt want him but are voting for him to try and save their own skin at the next GE. He broke numerous covid laws while he was Chancellor. " Let him take his coat off at least ???? | |||
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"It's been 2 minutes.... who is the PM now?" It's still Truss .. | |||
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"Good luck to him. He's gonna need it." He's a multi millionaire who will use his position to line his pockets and his friends pockets. Doesn't need luck. | |||
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"He was shit as a chancellor, spent way too money and increased debt while loading us with the highest tax burden in 70 years - mainly by stealth. Not much hope of him getting any better. Trouble is that Labour wanted to spend even more - harder lockdown, more support etc. " Yes he should have not initiated the furlow scheme or any of the business loans/grants or indeed the lockdowns after the first one should not have happened. | |||
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"The markets are happy, that is a reasonable start and he will hopefully dampen the noise that Truss created, sooner rather than later. As for losing to Truss, I still find it rather strange that Truss was lagging in 3rd and 4th until the last 2 rounds... Strange turn of events that. " I don't believe they would have put someone unsuitable into the job just so that the next person could do anything shitty at all and people would still be relieved that it wasn't still the one who was crap at it. Politicians are trustworthy.  | |||
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"He was shit as a chancellor, spent way too money and increased debt while loading us with the highest tax burden in 70 years - mainly by stealth. Not much hope of him getting any better. Trouble is that Labour wanted to spend even more - harder lockdown, more support etc. " Surely not. Before the pandemic the Conservatives borrowed more money than all previous governments combined. | |||
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"Nobody was complaining when they got paid to sit on their arse during COVID Now it's time to pay it back with interest " Apart from all the people who developed depression or committed suicide because of the isolation, the couples whose relationships broke down, the children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and all of those who found themselves on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes? | |||
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"Nobody was complaining when they got paid to sit on their arse during COVID Now it's time to pay it back with interest " Trouble is there were still 3.7million of us who got no help at all because...rubbish reasons. And we have to pay it back too! | |||
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"Thoughts? He came 2nd to Liz and look how bad she did. Alot of the Party didnt want him but are voting for him to try and save their own skin at the next GE. He broke numerous covid laws while he was Chancellor. " i think most m.ps would of been quiet happy with him getting it first time round was party members who voted the other nutjob in | |||
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 they all drink from the same toilet im not sure it matters who won but if he messes with that energy cap like mr cunt il go down south and glue my right hand to his lug ole | |||
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"Nobody was complaining when they got paid to sit on their arse during COVID Now it's time to pay it back with interest " No furlough or help here. Worked all the way through as normal. Still have to foot the bill for support given, mainly to legacy sectors such as retail. | |||
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"Thoughts? He came 2nd to Liz and look how bad she did. Alot of the Party didnt want him but are voting for him to try and save their own skin at the next GE. He broke numerous covid laws while he was Chancellor. " Said this already, but now that he's getting the job, it will be interesting to see how many fucking deadbeats he will have to have in his Cabinet. Obviously, it'll be fewer than Johnson and Truss had (including himself, if we're being unkind). Why have any at all? In order to appease the fuckwits and/or racists who chose Liz Truss over him last time out. Thank fuck they've not been asked this time. | |||
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"Thoughts? He came 2nd to Liz and look how bad she did. Alot of the Party didnt want him but are voting for him to try and save their own skin at the next GE. He broke numerous covid laws while he was Chancellor. Said this already, but now that he's getting the job, it will be interesting to see how many fucking deadbeats he will have to have in his Cabinet. Obviously, it'll be fewer than Johnson and Truss had (including himself, if we're being unkind). Why have any at all? In order to appease the fuckwits and/or racists who chose Liz Truss over him last time out. Thank fuck they've not been asked this time." If he has the balls then he needs to put the brightest and best with a cross section of views so he us well advised rather than useless sycophants and yes men/women! | |||
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"Good luck to him. He's gonna need it. He's a multi millionaire who will use his position to line his pockets and his friends pockets. Doesn't need luck." Why have you switched to talking about the ex Labour PM Tony Blair? 
Oh and the other ex Labour PM Gordon Brown is reputedly worth about £16 million.
But that's OK I guess for the Labour luvvies on here? | |||
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"He was shit as a chancellor, spent way too money and increased debt while loading us with the highest tax burden in 70 years - mainly by stealth. Not much hope of him getting any better. Trouble is that Labour wanted to spend even more - harder lockdown, more support etc. " Shh! The leftie luvvies would prefer you to forget the last paragraph | |||
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"He was shit as a chancellor, spent way too money and increased debt while loading us with the highest tax burden in 70 years - mainly by stealth. Not much hope of him getting any better. Trouble is that Labour wanted to spend even more - harder lockdown, more support etc. Shh! The leftie luvvies would prefer you to forget the last paragraph "What happened to ‘winner’ Johnson?  | |||
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"He was shit as a chancellor, spent way too money and increased debt while loading us with the highest tax burden in 70 years - mainly by stealth. Not much hope of him getting any better. Trouble is that Labour wanted to spend even more - harder lockdown, more support etc. Yes he should have not initiated the furlow scheme or any of the business loans/grants or indeed the lockdowns after the first one should not have happened. " Were it not for furlough, millions of jobs would have been lost. What should have been done instead? We now have the lowest unemployment on record thanks to the Tories | |||
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"Nobody was complaining when they got paid to sit on their arse during COVID Now it's time to pay it back with interest Apart from all the people who developed depression or committed suicide because of the isolation, the couples whose relationships broke down, the children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and all of those who found themselves on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes? " Labour wanted to lockdown for harder and longer than the Tories, so there would have been more depression, more suicide because of the isolation, more couples whose relationships broke down, more children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and more on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes. Labour delivering more
And more debt | |||
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"He was shit as a chancellor, spent way too money and increased debt while loading us with the highest tax burden in 70 years - mainly by stealth. Not much hope of him getting any better. Trouble is that Labour wanted to spend even more - harder lockdown, more support etc. Shh! The leftie luvvies would prefer you to forget the last paragraph "But how was that to be funded? How much of the £billions in support would have been lost to fraud or party donors? Would there have been PPE VIP lanes awash with unscrutinised contracts worth millions? Would the pub landlord best mate of the Health Secretary have won a £20m contract to supply test tubes? Would a (tory) peer with a husband operating companies out of the Isle of Man have secured a £250m contract to supply PPE that turned out to be unusable but with no recourse to get the money back? Etc etc | |||
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"Thoughts? He came 2nd to Liz and look how bad she did. Alot of the Party didnt want him but are voting for him to try and save their own skin at the next GE. He broke numerous covid laws while he was Chancellor. Said this already, but now that he's getting the job, it will be interesting to see how many fucking deadbeats he will have to have in his Cabinet. Obviously, it'll be fewer than Johnson and Truss had (including himself, if we're being unkind). Why have any at all? In order to appease the fuckwits and/or racists who chose Liz Truss over him last time out. Thank fuck they've not been asked this time. If he has the balls then he needs to put the brightest and best with a cross section of views so he us well advised rather than useless sycophants and yes men/women! " He has promised a cabinet of all the talents which is what is needed for unity. | |||
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"Nobody was complaining when they got paid to sit on their arse during COVID Now it's time to pay it back with interest Apart from all the people who developed depression or committed suicide because of the isolation, the couples whose relationships broke down, the children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and all of those who found themselves on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes? Labour wanted to lockdown for harder and longer than the Tories, so there would have been more depression, more suicide because of the isolation, more couples whose relationships broke down, more children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and more on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes. Labour delivering more
And more debt "£4 billion written off because of fraud | |||
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"Nobody was complaining when they got paid to sit on their arse during COVID Now it's time to pay it back with interest Apart from all the people who developed depression or committed suicide because of the isolation, the couples whose relationships broke down, the children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and all of those who found themselves on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes? Labour wanted to lockdown for harder and longer than the Tories, so there would have been more depression, more suicide because of the isolation, more couples whose relationships broke down, more children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and more on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes. Labour delivering more
And more debt
£4 billion written off because of fraud "£8 billion written off by DHSC due to PPE being unusable | |||
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"He was shit as a chancellor, spent way too money and increased debt while loading us with the highest tax burden in 70 years - mainly by stealth. Not much hope of him getting any better. Trouble is that Labour wanted to spend even more - harder lockdown, more support etc. Shh! The leftie luvvies would prefer you to forget the last paragraph
But how was that to be funded?
How much of the £billions in support would have been lost to fraud or party donors? Would there have been PPE VIP lanes awash with unscrutinised contracts worth millions? Would the pub landlord best mate of the Health Secretary have won a £20m contract to supply test tubes? Would a (tory) peer with a husband operating companies out of the Isle of Man have secured a £250m contract to supply PPE that turned out to be unusable but with no recourse to get the money back? Etc etc"Given the shocking levels of sleaze under New Labour, billions more probably | |||
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"Nobody was complaining when they got paid to sit on their arse during COVID Now it's time to pay it back with interest Apart from all the people who developed depression or committed suicide because of the isolation, the couples whose relationships broke down, the children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and all of those who found themselves on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes? Labour wanted to lockdown for harder and longer than the Tories, so there would have been more depression, more suicide because of the isolation, more couples whose relationships broke down, more children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and more on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes. Labour delivering more
And more debt
£4 billion written off because of fraud "Double that if it had been Labour. Isn't fraud the fault of the fraudsters anyway? | |||
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"He was shit as a chancellor, spent way too money and increased debt while loading us with the highest tax burden in 70 years - mainly by stealth. Not much hope of him getting any better. Trouble is that Labour wanted to spend even more - harder lockdown, more support etc. Shh! The leftie luvvies would prefer you to forget the last paragraph
But how was that to be funded?
How much of the £billions in support would have been lost to fraud or party donors? Would there have been PPE VIP lanes awash with unscrutinised contracts worth millions? Would the pub landlord best mate of the Health Secretary have won a £20m contract to supply test tubes? Would a (tory) peer with a husband operating companies out of the Isle of Man have secured a £250m contract to supply PPE that turned out to be unusable but with no recourse to get the money back? Etc etc
Given the shocking levels of sleaze under New Labour, billions more probably "Conjecture. We are talking fact! | |||
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"Nobody was complaining when they got paid to sit on their arse during COVID Now it's time to pay it back with interest Apart from all the people who developed depression or committed suicide because of the isolation, the couples whose relationships broke down, the children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and all of those who found themselves on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes? Labour wanted to lockdown for harder and longer than the Tories, so there would have been more depression, more suicide because of the isolation, more couples whose relationships broke down, more children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and more on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes. Labour delivering more
And more debt
£4 billion written off because of fraud
Double that if it had been Labour. Isn't fraud the fault of the fraudsters anyway? "More baseless conjecture. Wouldn’t hold up in court, or a libel case for that matter! | |||
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"Nobody was complaining when they got paid to sit on their arse during COVID Now it's time to pay it back with interest Apart from all the people who developed depression or committed suicide because of the isolation, the couples whose relationships broke down, the children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and all of those who found themselves on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes? Labour wanted to lockdown for harder and longer than the Tories, so there would have been more depression, more suicide because of the isolation, more couples whose relationships broke down, more children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and more on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes. Labour delivering more
And more debt "I'm not really sure how your response relates to the actual point I was making in any way, but you do you. | |||
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"Nobody was complaining when they got paid to sit on their arse during COVID Now it's time to pay it back with interest Apart from all the people who developed depression or committed suicide because of the isolation, the couples whose relationships broke down, the children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and all of those who found themselves on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes? Labour wanted to lockdown for harder and longer than the Tories, so there would have been more depression, more suicide because of the isolation, more couples whose relationships broke down, more children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and more on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes. Labour delivering more
And more debt
£4 billion written off because of fraud
£8 billion written off by DHSC due to PPE being unusable"The purchases were justified - with 97% of items suitable for use. £2.6bn of equipment was judged to be unsuitable for use in the NHS, but could still be sold or given to charities
£5 billion was lost because the government paid more for the ppe than it is currently worth, now that global supplies have recovered. They were chiefly overcharged by left wing states and Communist leaders trying to make a killing knowing full well it would have cost lives not to overpay!
How low the left can go | |||
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"Nobody was complaining when they got paid to sit on their arse during COVID Now it's time to pay it back with interest Apart from all the people who developed depression or committed suicide because of the isolation, the couples whose relationships broke down, the children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and all of those who found themselves on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes? Labour wanted to lockdown for harder and longer than the Tories, so there would have been more depression, more suicide because of the isolation, more couples whose relationships broke down, more children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and more on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes. Labour delivering more
And more debt
I'm not really sure how your response relates to the actual point I was making in any way, but you do you."It is standard broken record response from the broken Tory party, denial, deflection and delusion, no wonder they are so unpopular | |||
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"Nobody was complaining when they got paid to sit on their arse during COVID Now it's time to pay it back with interest Apart from all the people who developed depression or committed suicide because of the isolation, the couples whose relationships broke down, the children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and all of those who found themselves on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes? Labour wanted to lockdown for harder and longer than the Tories, so there would have been more depression, more suicide because of the isolation, more couples whose relationships broke down, more children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and more on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes. Labour delivering more
And more debt
I'm not really sure how your response relates to the actual point I was making in any way, but you do you."Thanks! I will | |||
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"Nobody was complaining when they got paid to sit on their arse during COVID Now it's time to pay it back with interest Apart from all the people who developed depression or committed suicide because of the isolation, the couples whose relationships broke down, the children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and all of those who found themselves on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes? Labour wanted to lockdown for harder and longer than the Tories, so there would have been more depression, more suicide because of the isolation, more couples whose relationships broke down, more children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and more on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes. Labour delivering more
And more debt
I'm not really sure how your response relates to the actual point I was making in any way, but you do you.
It is standard broken record response from the broken Tory party, denial, deflection and delusion, no wonder they are so unpopular "Denial, deflection and delusion - illiteration
How do you that so well, yet mangle your and you're  | |||
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"Nobody was complaining when they got paid to sit on their arse during COVID Now it's time to pay it back with interest Apart from all the people who developed depression or committed suicide because of the isolation, the couples whose relationships broke down, the children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and all of those who found themselves on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes? Labour wanted to lockdown for harder and longer than the Tories, so there would have been more depression, more suicide because of the isolation, more couples whose relationships broke down, more children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and more on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes. Labour delivering more
And more debt
£4 billion written off because of fraud
£8 billion written off by DHSC due to PPE being unusable
The purchases were justified - with 97% of items suitable for use.
£2.6bn of equipment was judged to be unsuitable for use in the NHS, but could still be sold or given to charities
£5 billion was lost because the government paid more for the ppe than it is currently worth, now that global supplies have recovered. They were chiefly overcharged by left wing states and Communist leaders trying to make a killing knowing full well it would have cost lives not to overpay!
How low the left can go "Who were the “middle men” and “consultants” who set up these contracts? Who were using party connections and the VIP lane to connect up the customer with the supplier/producer? Who made £millions out if doing that. That’s rhetorical BTW because we know who! Wasn’t Labour MPs or any other opposition MPs! | |||
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"Nobody was complaining when they got paid to sit on their arse during COVID Now it's time to pay it back with interest Apart from all the people who developed depression or committed suicide because of the isolation, the couples whose relationships broke down, the children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and all of those who found themselves on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes? Labour wanted to lockdown for harder and longer than the Tories, so there would have been more depression, more suicide because of the isolation, more couples whose relationships broke down, more children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and more on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes. Labour delivering more
And more debt
I'm not really sure how your response relates to the actual point I was making in any way, but you do you.
It is standard broken record response from the broken Tory party, denial, deflection and delusion, no wonder they are so unpopular
Denial, deflection and delusion - illiteration
How do you that so well, yet mangle your and you're "Thanks, anyway, what happens to Spaffer ? I thought he was proven winner, he couldn’t even get past the first hurdle | |||
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"Nobody was complaining when they got paid to sit on their arse during COVID Now it's time to pay it back with interest Apart from all the people who developed depression or committed suicide because of the isolation, the couples whose relationships broke down, the children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and all of those who found themselves on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes? Labour wanted to lockdown for harder and longer than the Tories, so there would have been more depression, more suicide because of the isolation, more couples whose relationships broke down, more children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and more on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes. Labour delivering more
And more debt
£4 billion written off because of fraud
Double that if it had been Labour. Isn't fraud the fault of the fraudsters anyway?
More baseless conjecture. Wouldn’t hold up in court, or a libel case for that matter!"Educated guess
Your anti-Mr and Mrs Sunak rants - now that's baseless conjecture. You excel at that and sarcasm - Larry the cat for PM indeed | |||
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"Nobody was complaining when they got paid to sit on their arse during COVID Now it's time to pay it back with interest Apart from all the people who developed depression or committed suicide because of the isolation, the couples whose relationships broke down, the children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and all of those who found themselves on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes? Labour wanted to lockdown for harder and longer than the Tories, so there would have been more depression, more suicide because of the isolation, more couples whose relationships broke down, more children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and more on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes. Labour delivering more
And more debt
I'm not really sure how your response relates to the actual point I was making in any way, but you do you.
It is standard broken record response from the broken Tory party, denial, deflection and delusion, no wonder they are so unpopular
Denial, deflection and delusion - illiteration
How do you that so well, yet mangle your and you're
Thanks, anyway, what happens to Spaffer ? I thought he was proven winner, he couldn’t even get past the first hurdle "What happens to him in what respect? | |||
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"Nobody was complaining when they got paid to sit on their arse during COVID Now it's time to pay it back with interest Apart from all the people who developed depression or committed suicide because of the isolation, the couples whose relationships broke down, the children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and all of those who found themselves on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes? Labour wanted to lockdown for harder and longer than the Tories, so there would have been more depression, more suicide because of the isolation, more couples whose relationships broke down, more children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and more on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes. Labour delivering more
And more debt
£4 billion written off because of fraud
Double that if it had been Labour. Isn't fraud the fault of the fraudsters anyway?
More baseless conjecture. Wouldn’t hold up in court, or a libel case for that matter!
Educated guess
Your anti-Mr and Mrs Sunak rants - now that's baseless conjecture. You excel at that and sarcasm - Larry the cat for PM indeed "Nah no baseless conjecture with the Sunaks. The info is all there. The will to do something wasn’t and now he has the top job it won’t be! | |||
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"Nobody was complaining when they got paid to sit on their arse during COVID Now it's time to pay it back with interest Apart from all the people who developed depression or committed suicide because of the isolation, the couples whose relationships broke down, the children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and all of those who found themselves on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes? Labour wanted to lockdown for harder and longer than the Tories, so there would have been more depression, more suicide because of the isolation, more couples whose relationships broke down, more children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and more on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes. Labour delivering more
And more debt
I'm not really sure how your response relates to the actual point I was making in any way, but you do you.
It is standard broken record response from the broken Tory party, denial, deflection and delusion, no wonder they are so unpopular
Denial, deflection and delusion - illiteration
How do you that so well, yet mangle your and you're
Thanks, anyway, what happens to Spaffer ? I thought he was proven winner, he couldn’t even get past the first hurdle
What happens to him in what respect? "Being a loser, trying to return and being thoroughly rejected by the Tory party. humiliation | |||
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"Nobody was complaining when they got paid to sit on their arse during COVID Now it's time to pay it back with interest Apart from all the people who developed depression or committed suicide because of the isolation, the couples whose relationships broke down, the children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and all of those who found themselves on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes? Labour wanted to lockdown for harder and longer than the Tories, so there would have been more depression, more suicide because of the isolation, more couples whose relationships broke down, more children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and more on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes. Labour delivering more
And more debt
£4 billion written off because of fraud
Double that if it had been Labour. Isn't fraud the fault of the fraudsters anyway?
More baseless conjecture. Wouldn’t hold up in court, or a libel case for that matter!
Educated guess
Your anti-Mr and Mrs Sunak rants - now that's baseless conjecture. You excel at that and sarcasm - Larry the cat for PM indeed
Nah no baseless conjecture with the Sunaks. The info is all there. The will to do something wasn’t and now he has the top job it won’t be!"BTW you were making baseless conjecture about a political party who have not been in power for over 12 years and were run by a completely different set of people. Not the same as looking at information that is available in issues that happened in last couple of years. You know that right? | |||
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"Nobody was complaining when they got paid to sit on their arse during COVID Now it's time to pay it back with interest Apart from all the people who developed depression or committed suicide because of the isolation, the couples whose relationships broke down, the children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and all of those who found themselves on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes? Labour wanted to lockdown for harder and longer than the Tories, so there would have been more depression, more suicide because of the isolation, more couples whose relationships broke down, more children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and more on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes. Labour delivering more
And more debt
I'm not really sure how your response relates to the actual point I was making in any way, but you do you.
It is standard broken record response from the broken Tory party, denial, deflection and delusion, no wonder they are so unpopular
Denial, deflection and delusion - illiteration
How do you that so well, yet mangle your and you're
Thanks, anyway, what happens to Spaffer ? I thought he was proven winner, he couldn’t even get past the first hurdle
What happens to him in what respect?
Being a loser, trying to return and being thoroughly rejected by the Tory party. humiliation "You're back to making no sense again. In response to 'what happens to Spaffer' - he remains an MP unless Rishi offers him a Cabinet job. | |||
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"Nobody was complaining when they got paid to sit on their arse during COVID Now it's time to pay it back with interest Apart from all the people who developed depression or committed suicide because of the isolation, the couples whose relationships broke down, the children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and all of those who found themselves on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes? Labour wanted to lockdown for harder and longer than the Tories, so there would have been more depression, more suicide because of the isolation, more couples whose relationships broke down, more children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and more on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes. Labour delivering more
And more debt
£4 billion written off because of fraud
Double that if it had been Labour. Isn't fraud the fault of the fraudsters anyway?
More baseless conjecture. Wouldn’t hold up in court, or a libel case for that matter!
Educated guess
Your anti-Mr and Mrs Sunak rants - now that's baseless conjecture. You excel at that and sarcasm - Larry the cat for PM indeed
Nah no baseless conjecture with the Sunaks. The info is all there. The will to do something wasn’t and now he has the top job it won’t be!
BTW you were making baseless conjecture about a political party who have not been in power for over 12 years and were run by a completely different set of people. Not the same as looking at information that is available in issues that happened in last couple of years. You know that right?"If Labour gain power in '25, it will have been a political party who have not been in power for over 15 years. You know that right? Do you know why though? Hint: they always always mess things up and people therefore kept sensibly voting Tory. | |||
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"Nobody was complaining when they got paid to sit on their arse during COVID Now it's time to pay it back with interest I was never furloughed, nor offered any financial protection, to stay at home if I ever got ill. Luckily, I dodged that bullet. So should I complain?" The Coronavirus Job Retention Scheme ended on 30 September 2021. | |||
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"Nobody was complaining when they got paid to sit on their arse during COVID Now it's time to pay it back with interest Apart from all the people who developed depression or committed suicide because of the isolation, the couples whose relationships broke down, the children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and all of those who found themselves on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes? Labour wanted to lockdown for harder and longer than the Tories, so there would have been more depression, more suicide because of the isolation, more couples whose relationships broke down, more children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and more on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes. Labour delivering more
And more debt
£4 billion written off because of fraud
Double that if it had been Labour. Isn't fraud the fault of the fraudsters anyway?
More baseless conjecture. Wouldn’t hold up in court, or a libel case for that matter!
Educated guess
Your anti-Mr and Mrs Sunak rants - now that's baseless conjecture. You excel at that and sarcasm - Larry the cat for PM indeed
Nah no baseless conjecture with the Sunaks. The info is all there. The will to do something wasn’t and now he has the top job it won’t be!
BTW you were making baseless conjecture about a political party who have not been in power for over 12 years and were run by a completely different set of people. Not the same as looking at information that is available in issues that happened in last couple of years. You know that right?
If Labour gain power in '25, it will have been a political party who have not been in power for over 15 years. You know that right?
Do you know why though?
Hint: they always always mess things up and people therefore kept sensibly voting Tory. "But you know that is a trope right... Like-for-like comparison before impact of an international crisis. UK Government Debt in 2007/08 = £0.64tn (before Financial Crisis and after 10yrs in power) UK Government Debt in 2018/19 = £1.82tn (before Covid pandemic and after nearly a decade of austerity and power) | |||
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"Nobody was complaining when they got paid to sit on their arse during COVID Now it's time to pay it back with interest Apart from all the people who developed depression or committed suicide because of the isolation, the couples whose relationships broke down, the children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and all of those who found themselves on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes? Labour wanted to lockdown for harder and longer than the Tories, so there would have been more depression, more suicide because of the isolation, more couples whose relationships broke down, more children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and more on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes. Labour delivering more
And more debt
£4 billion written off because of fraud
Double that if it had been Labour. Isn't fraud the fault of the fraudsters anyway?
More baseless conjecture. Wouldn’t hold up in court, or a libel case for that matter!
Educated guess
Your anti-Mr and Mrs Sunak rants - now that's baseless conjecture. You excel at that and sarcasm - Larry the cat for PM indeed
Nah no baseless conjecture with the Sunaks. The info is all there. The will to do something wasn’t and now he has the top job it won’t be!
BTW you were making baseless conjecture about a political party who have not been in power for over 12 years and were run by a completely different set of people. Not the same as looking at information that is available in issues that happened in last couple of years. You know that right?
If Labour gain power in '25, it will have been a political party who have not been in power for over 15 years. You know that right?
Do you know why though?
Hint: they always always mess things up and people therefore kept sensibly voting Tory.
But you know that is a trope right...
Like-for-like comparison before impact of an international crisis.
UK Government Debt in 2007/08 = £0.64tn (before Financial Crisis and after 10yrs in power)
UK Government Debt in 2018/19 = £1.82tn (before Covid pandemic and after nearly a decade of austerity and power)"Misleading! You conveniently leave out the figure in 2010 for UK Government Debt after 13 years of ruinous Labour rule. And you don't express it as a percentage of GDP! | |||
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"Nobody was complaining when they got paid to sit on their arse during COVID Now it's time to pay it back with interest Apart from all the people who developed depression or committed suicide because of the isolation, the couples whose relationships broke down, the children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and all of those who found themselves on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes? Labour wanted to lockdown for harder and longer than the Tories, so there would have been more depression, more suicide because of the isolation, more couples whose relationships broke down, more children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and more on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes. Labour delivering more
And more debt
I'm not really sure how your response relates to the actual point I was making in any way, but you do you.
It is standard broken record response from the broken Tory party, denial, deflection and delusion, no wonder they are so unpopular
Denial, deflection and delusion - illiteration
How do you that so well, yet mangle your and you're
Thanks, anyway, what happens to Spaffer ? I thought he was proven winner, he couldn’t even get past the first hurdle
What happens to him in what respect?
Being a loser, trying to return and being thoroughly rejected by the Tory party. humiliation
You're back to making no sense again. In response to 'what happens to Spaffer' - he remains an MP unless Rishi offers him a Cabinet job.
"Your missing the point again, he tried and failed miserably to become the PM, all those pathetic MPs who backed him have been made to look like even bigger fools, humiliation | |||
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"Nobody was complaining when they got paid to sit on their arse during COVID Now it's time to pay it back with interest Apart from all the people who developed depression or committed suicide because of the isolation, the couples whose relationships broke down, the children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and all of those who found themselves on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes? Labour wanted to lockdown for harder and longer than the Tories, so there would have been more depression, more suicide because of the isolation, more couples whose relationships broke down, more children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and more on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes. Labour delivering more
And more debt
£4 billion written off because of fraud
Double that if it had been Labour. Isn't fraud the fault of the fraudsters anyway?
More baseless conjecture. Wouldn’t hold up in court, or a libel case for that matter!
Educated guess
Your anti-Mr and Mrs Sunak rants - now that's baseless conjecture. You excel at that and sarcasm - Larry the cat for PM indeed
Nah no baseless conjecture with the Sunaks. The info is all there. The will to do something wasn’t and now he has the top job it won’t be!
BTW you were making baseless conjecture about a political party who have not been in power for over 12 years and were run by a completely different set of people. Not the same as looking at information that is available in issues that happened in last couple of years. You know that right?
If Labour gain power in '25, it will have been a political party who have not been in power for over 15 years. You know that right?
Do you know why though?
Hint: they always always mess things up and people therefore kept sensibly voting Tory.
But you know that is a trope right...
Like-for-like comparison before impact of an international crisis.
UK Government Debt in 2007/08 = £0.64tn (before Financial Crisis and after 10yrs in power)
UK Government Debt in 2018/19 = £1.82tn (before Covid pandemic and after nearly a decade of austerity and power)
Misleading! You conveniently leave out the figure in 2010 for UK Government Debt after 13 years of ruinous Labour rule. And you don't express it as a percentage of GDP! "I was doing like-for-like. We can always post 2009/10 = 1.08tn (after the global financial crash and follow on recession) Fancy a guess at what the 2022/23 figure will be (after the global pandemic)? Not sure it will support your argument | |||
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"Pat not on concurrently with the other suspected pseudo Pat accounts again...odd coincidence! Deflection. You still haven't told me who Pat is, username, geographical location etc. Do your own research and have a read of the many many threads on here. I don't have the time. Why don't you just say?! And if I am this 'Pat' why would I have a read of the many many threads on here. As by your insinuations, I must have written them! " Nah this is more fun | |||
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"Nobody was complaining when they got paid to sit on their arse during COVID Now it's time to pay it back with interest Apart from all the people who developed depression or committed suicide because of the isolation, the couples whose relationships broke down, the children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and all of those who found themselves on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes? Labour wanted to lockdown for harder and longer than the Tories, so there would have been more depression, more suicide because of the isolation, more couples whose relationships broke down, more children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and more on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes. Labour delivering more
And more debt
£4 billion written off because of fraud
Double that if it had been Labour. Isn't fraud the fault of the fraudsters anyway?
More baseless conjecture. Wouldn’t hold up in court, or a libel case for that matter!
Educated guess
Your anti-Mr and Mrs Sunak rants - now that's baseless conjecture. You excel at that and sarcasm - Larry the cat for PM indeed
Nah no baseless conjecture with the Sunaks. The info is all there. The will to do something wasn’t and now he has the top job it won’t be!
BTW you were making baseless conjecture about a political party who have not been in power for over 12 years and were run by a completely different set of people. Not the same as looking at information that is available in issues that happened in last couple of years. You know that right?
If Labour gain power in '25, it will have been a political party who have not been in power for over 15 years. You know that right?
Do you know why though?
Hint: they always always mess things up and people therefore kept sensibly voting Tory.
But you know that is a trope right...
Like-for-like comparison before impact of an international crisis.
UK Government Debt in 2007/08 = £0.64tn (before Financial Crisis and after 10yrs in power)
UK Government Debt in 2018/19 = £1.82tn (before Covid pandemic and after nearly a decade of austerity and power)
Misleading! You conveniently leave out the figure in 2010 for UK Government Debt after 13 years of ruinous Labour rule. And you don't express it as a percentage of GDP! "The tories have failed and they will be voted out at the next GE, they are extremely unpopular | |||
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"Nobody was complaining when they got paid to sit on their arse during COVID Now it's time to pay it back with interest Apart from all the people who developed depression or committed suicide because of the isolation, the couples whose relationships broke down, the children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and all of those who found themselves on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes? Labour wanted to lockdown for harder and longer than the Tories, so there would have been more depression, more suicide because of the isolation, more couples whose relationships broke down, more children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and more on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes. Labour delivering more
And more debt
I'm not really sure how your response relates to the actual point I was making in any way, but you do you.
It is standard broken record response from the broken Tory party, denial, deflection and delusion, no wonder they are so unpopular
Denial, deflection and delusion - illiteration
How do you that so well, yet mangle your and you're
Thanks, anyway, what happens to Spaffer ? I thought he was proven winner, he couldn’t even get past the first hurdle
What happens to him in what respect?
Being a loser, trying to return and being thoroughly rejected by the Tory party. humiliation
You're back to making no sense again. In response to 'what happens to Spaffer' - he remains an MP unless Rishi offers him a Cabinet job.
Your missing the point again, he tried and failed miserably to become the PM, all those pathetic MPs who backed him have been made to look like even bigger fools, humiliation "I answered the question 'what happens to Spaffer' How is that missing the point? Boris had well over 100 nominations but did the decent thing in the interests of unity. How is that humiliating? You asked me 5 days ago who I was supporting and it is time stamped that I replied Ben Wallace if he stands, Rishi failing that. Today has been a fantastic day | |||
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"Nobody was complaining when they got paid to sit on their arse during COVID Now it's time to pay it back with interest Apart from all the people who developed depression or committed suicide because of the isolation, the couples whose relationships broke down, the children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and all of those who found themselves on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes? Labour wanted to lockdown for harder and longer than the Tories, so there would have been more depression, more suicide because of the isolation, more couples whose relationships broke down, more children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and more on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes. Labour delivering more
And more debt
I'm not really sure how your response relates to the actual point I was making in any way, but you do you.
It is standard broken record response from the broken Tory party, denial, deflection and delusion, no wonder they are so unpopular
Denial, deflection and delusion - illiteration
How do you that so well, yet mangle your and you're
Thanks, anyway, what happens to Spaffer ? I thought he was proven winner, he couldn’t even get past the first hurdle
What happens to him in what respect?
Being a loser, trying to return and being thoroughly rejected by the Tory party. humiliation
You're back to making no sense again. In response to 'what happens to Spaffer' - he remains an MP unless Rishi offers him a Cabinet job.
Your missing the point again, he tried and failed miserably to become the PM, all those pathetic MPs who backed him have been made to look like even bigger fools, humiliation
I answered the question 'what happens to Spaffer'
How is that missing the point?
Boris had well over 100 nominations but did the decent thing in the interests of unity. How is that humiliating? You asked me 5 days ago who I was supporting and it is time stamped that I replied Ben Wallace if he stands, Rishi failing that.
Today has been a fantastic day "He didn’t have 100 , he lied and you believed him, humiliation | |||
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"Nobody was complaining when they got paid to sit on their arse during COVID Now it's time to pay it back with interest Apart from all the people who developed depression or committed suicide because of the isolation, the couples whose relationships broke down, the children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and all of those who found themselves on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes? Labour wanted to lockdown for harder and longer than the Tories, so there would have been more depression, more suicide because of the isolation, more couples whose relationships broke down, more children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and more on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes. Labour delivering more
And more debt
I'm not really sure how your response relates to the actual point I was making in any way, but you do you.
It is standard broken record response from the broken Tory party, denial, deflection and delusion, no wonder they are so unpopular
Denial, deflection and delusion - illiteration
How do you that so well, yet mangle your and you're
Thanks, anyway, what happens to Spaffer ? I thought he was proven winner, he couldn’t even get past the first hurdle
What happens to him in what respect?
Being a loser, trying to return and being thoroughly rejected by the Tory party. humiliation
You're back to making no sense again. In response to 'what happens to Spaffer' - he remains an MP unless Rishi offers him a Cabinet job.
Your missing the point again, he tried and failed miserably to become the PM, all those pathetic MPs who backed him have been made to look like even bigger fools, humiliation
I answered the question 'what happens to Spaffer'
How is that missing the point?
Boris had well over 100 nominations but did the decent thing in the interests of unity. How is that humiliating? You asked me 5 days ago who I was supporting and it is time stamped that I replied Ben Wallace if he stands, Rishi failing that.
Today has been a fantastic day "Johnson claimed he had 100 nominations. He didn’t. It was another lie. Only those who declared publicly can be believed. How many were there? | |||
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"Nobody was complaining when they got paid to sit on their arse during COVID Now it's time to pay it back with interest Apart from all the people who developed depression or committed suicide because of the isolation, the couples whose relationships broke down, the children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and all of those who found themselves on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes? Labour wanted to lockdown for harder and longer than the Tories, so there would have been more depression, more suicide because of the isolation, more couples whose relationships broke down, more children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and more on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes. Labour delivering more
And more debt
£4 billion written off because of fraud
Double that if it had been Labour. Isn't fraud the fault of the fraudsters anyway?
More baseless conjecture. Wouldn’t hold up in court, or a libel case for that matter!
Educated guess
Your anti-Mr and Mrs Sunak rants - now that's baseless conjecture. You excel at that and sarcasm - Larry the cat for PM indeed
Nah no baseless conjecture with the Sunaks. The info is all there. The will to do something wasn’t and now he has the top job it won’t be!
BTW you were making baseless conjecture about a political party who have not been in power for over 12 years and were run by a completely different set of people. Not the same as looking at information that is available in issues that happened in last couple of years. You know that right?
If Labour gain power in '25, it will have been a political party who have not been in power for over 15 years. You know that right?
Do you know why though?
Hint: they always always mess things up and people therefore kept sensibly voting Tory.
But you know that is a trope right...
Like-for-like comparison before impact of an international crisis.
UK Government Debt in 2007/08 = £0.64tn (before Financial Crisis and after 10yrs in power)
UK Government Debt in 2018/19 = £1.82tn (before Covid pandemic and after nearly a decade of austerity and power)
Misleading! You conveniently leave out the figure in 2010 for UK Government Debt after 13 years of ruinous Labour rule. And you don't express it as a percentage of GDP!
The tories have failed and they will be voted out at the next GE, they are extremely unpopular "In your head
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"Nobody was complaining when they got paid to sit on their arse during COVID Now it's time to pay it back with interest Apart from all the people who developed depression or committed suicide because of the isolation, the couples whose relationships broke down, the children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and all of those who found themselves on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes? Labour wanted to lockdown for harder and longer than the Tories, so there would have been more depression, more suicide because of the isolation, more couples whose relationships broke down, more children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and more on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes. Labour delivering more
And more debt
I'm not really sure how your response relates to the actual point I was making in any way, but you do you.
It is standard broken record response from the broken Tory party, denial, deflection and delusion, no wonder they are so unpopular
Denial, deflection and delusion - illiteration
How do you that so well, yet mangle your and you're
Thanks, anyway, what happens to Spaffer ? I thought he was proven winner, he couldn’t even get past the first hurdle
What happens to him in what respect?
Being a loser, trying to return and being thoroughly rejected by the Tory party. humiliation
You're back to making no sense again. In response to 'what happens to Spaffer' - he remains an MP unless Rishi offers him a Cabinet job.
Your missing the point again, he tried and failed miserably to become the PM, all those pathetic MPs who backed him have been made to look like even bigger fools, humiliation
I answered the question 'what happens to Spaffer'
How is that missing the point?
Boris had well over 100 nominations but did the decent thing in the interests of unity. How is that humiliating? You asked me 5 days ago who I was supporting and it is time stamped that I replied Ben Wallace if he stands, Rishi failing that.
Today has been a fantastic day
Johnson claimed he had 100 nominations. He didn’t. It was another lie. Only those who declared publicly can be believed. How many were there?"59 | |||
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"Nobody was complaining when they got paid to sit on their arse during COVID Now it's time to pay it back with interest Apart from all the people who developed depression or committed suicide because of the isolation, the couples whose relationships broke down, the children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and all of those who found themselves on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes? Labour wanted to lockdown for harder and longer than the Tories, so there would have been more depression, more suicide because of the isolation, more couples whose relationships broke down, more children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and more on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes. Labour delivering more
And more debt
I'm not really sure how your response relates to the actual point I was making in any way, but you do you.
It is standard broken record response from the broken Tory party, denial, deflection and delusion, no wonder they are so unpopular
Denial, deflection and delusion - illiteration
How do you that so well, yet mangle your and you're
Thanks, anyway, what happens to Spaffer ? I thought he was proven winner, he couldn’t even get past the first hurdle
What happens to him in what respect?
Being a loser, trying to return and being thoroughly rejected by the Tory party. humiliation
You're back to making no sense again. In response to 'what happens to Spaffer' - he remains an MP unless Rishi offers him a Cabinet job.
Your missing the point again, he tried and failed miserably to become the PM, all those pathetic MPs who backed him have been made to look like even bigger fools, humiliation
I answered the question 'what happens to Spaffer'
How is that missing the point?
Boris had well over 100 nominations but did the decent thing in the interests of unity. How is that humiliating? You asked me 5 days ago who I was supporting and it is time stamped that I replied Ben Wallace if he stands, Rishi failing that.
Today has been a fantastic day
He didn’t have 100 , he lied and you believed him, humiliation "I know for a fact he would have polled 113 | |||
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"Nobody was complaining when they got paid to sit on their arse during COVID Now it's time to pay it back with interest Apart from all the people who developed depression or committed suicide because of the isolation, the couples whose relationships broke down, the children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and all of those who found themselves on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes? Labour wanted to lockdown for harder and longer than the Tories, so there would have been more depression, more suicide because of the isolation, more couples whose relationships broke down, more children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and more on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes. Labour delivering more
And more debt
£4 billion written off because of fraud
Double that if it had been Labour. Isn't fraud the fault of the fraudsters anyway?
More baseless conjecture. Wouldn’t hold up in court, or a libel case for that matter!
Educated guess
Your anti-Mr and Mrs Sunak rants - now that's baseless conjecture. You excel at that and sarcasm - Larry the cat for PM indeed
Nah no baseless conjecture with the Sunaks. The info is all there. The will to do something wasn’t and now he has the top job it won’t be!
BTW you were making baseless conjecture about a political party who have not been in power for over 12 years and were run by a completely different set of people. Not the same as looking at information that is available in issues that happened in last couple of years. You know that right?
If Labour gain power in '25, it will have been a political party who have not been in power for over 15 years. You know that right?
Do you know why though?
Hint: they always always mess things up and people therefore kept sensibly voting Tory.
But you know that is a trope right...
Like-for-like comparison before impact of an international crisis.
UK Government Debt in 2007/08 = £0.64tn (before Financial Crisis and after 10yrs in power)
UK Government Debt in 2018/19 = £1.82tn (before Covid pandemic and after nearly a decade of austerity and power)
Misleading! You conveniently leave out the figure in 2010 for UK Government Debt after 13 years of ruinous Labour rule. And you don't express it as a percentage of GDP!
The tories have failed and they will be voted out at the next GE, they are extremely unpopular
In your head
The lefties always take vociferously to social media, saw it all in 2015, 17 and 19! It gives the impression of a landslide for Labour coming ha ha. How did those years end? "“Past performance is not an indication of future performance” I am curious. What exactly do you think the Tories have done for you and why is it a good thing? | |||
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"Nobody was complaining when they got paid to sit on their arse during COVID Now it's time to pay it back with interest Apart from all the people who developed depression or committed suicide because of the isolation, the couples whose relationships broke down, the children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and all of those who found themselves on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes? Labour wanted to lockdown for harder and longer than the Tories, so there would have been more depression, more suicide because of the isolation, more couples whose relationships broke down, more children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and more on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes. Labour delivering more
And more debt
£4 billion written off because of fraud
Double that if it had been Labour. Isn't fraud the fault of the fraudsters anyway?
More baseless conjecture. Wouldn’t hold up in court, or a libel case for that matter!
Educated guess
Your anti-Mr and Mrs Sunak rants - now that's baseless conjecture. You excel at that and sarcasm - Larry the cat for PM indeed
Nah no baseless conjecture with the Sunaks. The info is all there. The will to do something wasn’t and now he has the top job it won’t be!
BTW you were making baseless conjecture about a political party who have not been in power for over 12 years and were run by a completely different set of people. Not the same as looking at information that is available in issues that happened in last couple of years. You know that right?
If Labour gain power in '25, it will have been a political party who have not been in power for over 15 years. You know that right?
Do you know why though?
Hint: they always always mess things up and people therefore kept sensibly voting Tory.
But you know that is a trope right...
Like-for-like comparison before impact of an international crisis.
UK Government Debt in 2007/08 = £0.64tn (before Financial Crisis and after 10yrs in power)
UK Government Debt in 2018/19 = £1.82tn (before Covid pandemic and after nearly a decade of austerity and power)
Misleading! You conveniently leave out the figure in 2010 for UK Government Debt after 13 years of ruinous Labour rule. And you don't express it as a percentage of GDP!
The tories have failed and they will be voted out at the next GE, they are extremely unpopular
In your head
The lefties always take vociferously to social media, saw it all in 2015, 17 and 19! It gives the impression of a landslide for Labour coming ha ha. How did those years end? "Well let’s see, labour didn’t have a 25 point advantage in any of those years, the tories are extremely unpopular right now, hopefully Rishi can steady the ship but the damage is done, | |||
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"Nobody was complaining when they got paid to sit on their arse during COVID Now it's time to pay it back with interest Apart from all the people who developed depression or committed suicide because of the isolation, the couples whose relationships broke down, the children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and all of those who found themselves on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes? Labour wanted to lockdown for harder and longer than the Tories, so there would have been more depression, more suicide because of the isolation, more couples whose relationships broke down, more children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and more on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes. Labour delivering more
And more debt
I'm not really sure how your response relates to the actual point I was making in any way, but you do you.
It is standard broken record response from the broken Tory party, denial, deflection and delusion, no wonder they are so unpopular
Denial, deflection and delusion - illiteration
How do you that so well, yet mangle your and you're
Thanks, anyway, what happens to Spaffer ? I thought he was proven winner, he couldn’t even get past the first hurdle
What happens to him in what respect?
Being a loser, trying to return and being thoroughly rejected by the Tory party. humiliation
You're back to making no sense again. In response to 'what happens to Spaffer' - he remains an MP unless Rishi offers him a Cabinet job.
Your missing the point again, he tried and failed miserably to become the PM, all those pathetic MPs who backed him have been made to look like even bigger fools, humiliation
I answered the question 'what happens to Spaffer'
How is that missing the point?
Boris had well over 100 nominations but did the decent thing in the interests of unity. How is that humiliating? You asked me 5 days ago who I was supporting and it is time stamped that I replied Ben Wallace if he stands, Rishi failing that.
Today has been a fantastic day
He didn’t have 100 , he lied and you believed him, humiliation
I know for a fact he would have polled 113"No you don’t, that is a blatant lie, if you know for a fact , prove it | |||
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"Nobody was complaining when they got paid to sit on their arse during COVID Now it's time to pay it back with interest Apart from all the people who developed depression or committed suicide because of the isolation, the couples whose relationships broke down, the children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and all of those who found themselves on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes? Labour wanted to lockdown for harder and longer than the Tories, so there would have been more depression, more suicide because of the isolation, more couples whose relationships broke down, more children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and more on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes. Labour delivering more
And more debt
I'm not really sure how your response relates to the actual point I was making in any way, but you do you.
It is standard broken record response from the broken Tory party, denial, deflection and delusion, no wonder they are so unpopular
Denial, deflection and delusion - illiteration
How do you that so well, yet mangle your and you're
Thanks, anyway, what happens to Spaffer ? I thought he was proven winner, he couldn’t even get past the first hurdle
What happens to him in what respect?
Being a loser, trying to return and being thoroughly rejected by the Tory party. humiliation
You're back to making no sense again. In response to 'what happens to Spaffer' - he remains an MP unless Rishi offers him a Cabinet job.
Your missing the point again, he tried and failed miserably to become the PM, all those pathetic MPs who backed him have been made to look like even bigger fools, humiliation
I answered the question 'what happens to Spaffer'
How is that missing the point?
Boris had well over 100 nominations but did the decent thing in the interests of unity. How is that humiliating? You asked me 5 days ago who I was supporting and it is time stamped that I replied Ben Wallace if he stands, Rishi failing that.
Today has been a fantastic day
He didn’t have 100 , he lied and you believed him, humiliation
I know for a fact he would have polled 113"How do you know that for a fact? That’s the sort of info the media (and Johnson) would kill for. Can you name the 113? | |||
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"Nobody was complaining when they got paid to sit on their arse during COVID Now it's time to pay it back with interest Apart from all the people who developed depression or committed suicide because of the isolation, the couples whose relationships broke down, the children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and all of those who found themselves on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes? Labour wanted to lockdown for harder and longer than the Tories, so there would have been more depression, more suicide because of the isolation, more couples whose relationships broke down, more children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and more on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes. Labour delivering more
And more debt
I'm not really sure how your response relates to the actual point I was making in any way, but you do you.
It is standard broken record response from the broken Tory party, denial, deflection and delusion, no wonder they are so unpopular
Denial, deflection and delusion - illiteration
How do you that so well, yet mangle your and you're
Thanks, anyway, what happens to Spaffer ? I thought he was proven winner, he couldn’t even get past the first hurdle
What happens to him in what respect?
Being a loser, trying to return and being thoroughly rejected by the Tory party. humiliation
You're back to making no sense again. In response to 'what happens to Spaffer' - he remains an MP unless Rishi offers him a Cabinet job.
Your missing the point again, he tried and failed miserably to become the PM, all those pathetic MPs who backed him have been made to look like even bigger fools, humiliation
I answered the question 'what happens to Spaffer'
How is that missing the point?
Boris had well over 100 nominations but did the decent thing in the interests of unity. How is that humiliating? You asked me 5 days ago who I was supporting and it is time stamped that I replied Ben Wallace if he stands, Rishi failing that.
Today has been a fantastic day
Johnson claimed he had 100 nominations. He didn’t. It was another lie. Only those who declared publicly can be believed. How many were there?
59"It was 61 actually and 42 ready to declare if he had confirmed he was running plus mop up of 10 from the Mordaunt camp if she had pulled out at the moment of a Johnson declaration. | |||
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"Nobody was complaining when they got paid to sit on their arse during COVID Now it's time to pay it back with interest Apart from all the people who developed depression or committed suicide because of the isolation, the couples whose relationships broke down, the children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and all of those who found themselves on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes? Labour wanted to lockdown for harder and longer than the Tories, so there would have been more depression, more suicide because of the isolation, more couples whose relationships broke down, more children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and more on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes. Labour delivering more
And more debt
I'm not really sure how your response relates to the actual point I was making in any way, but you do you.
It is standard broken record response from the broken Tory party, denial, deflection and delusion, no wonder they are so unpopular
Denial, deflection and delusion - illiteration
How do you that so well, yet mangle your and you're
Thanks, anyway, what happens to Spaffer ? I thought he was proven winner, he couldn’t even get past the first hurdle
What happens to him in what respect?
Being a loser, trying to return and being thoroughly rejected by the Tory party. humiliation
You're back to making no sense again. In response to 'what happens to Spaffer' - he remains an MP unless Rishi offers him a Cabinet job.
Your missing the point again, he tried and failed miserably to become the PM, all those pathetic MPs who backed him have been made to look like even bigger fools, humiliation
I answered the question 'what happens to Spaffer'
How is that missing the point?
Boris had well over 100 nominations but did the decent thing in the interests of unity. How is that humiliating? You asked me 5 days ago who I was supporting and it is time stamped that I replied Ben Wallace if he stands, Rishi failing that.
Today has been a fantastic day
Johnson claimed he had 100 nominations. He didn’t. It was another lie. Only those who declared publicly can be believed. How many were there?
59
It was 61 actually and 42 ready to declare if he had confirmed he was running plus mop up of 10 from the Mordaunt camp if she had pulled out at the moment of a Johnson declaration. "Ok, he had 61, humiliation | |||
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"Nobody was complaining when they got paid to sit on their arse during COVID Now it's time to pay it back with interest Apart from all the people who developed depression or committed suicide because of the isolation, the couples whose relationships broke down, the children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and all of those who found themselves on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes? Labour wanted to lockdown for harder and longer than the Tories, so there would have been more depression, more suicide because of the isolation, more couples whose relationships broke down, more children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and more on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes. Labour delivering more
And more debt
I'm not really sure how your response relates to the actual point I was making in any way, but you do you.
It is standard broken record response from the broken Tory party, denial, deflection and delusion, no wonder they are so unpopular
Denial, deflection and delusion - illiteration
How do you that so well, yet mangle your and you're
Thanks, anyway, what happens to Spaffer ? I thought he was proven winner, he couldn’t even get past the first hurdle
What happens to him in what respect?
Being a loser, trying to return and being thoroughly rejected by the Tory party. humiliation
You're back to making no sense again. In response to 'what happens to Spaffer' - he remains an MP unless Rishi offers him a Cabinet job.
Your missing the point again, he tried and failed miserably to become the PM, all those pathetic MPs who backed him have been made to look like even bigger fools, humiliation
I answered the question 'what happens to Spaffer'
How is that missing the point?
Boris had well over 100 nominations but did the decent thing in the interests of unity. How is that humiliating? You asked me 5 days ago who I was supporting and it is time stamped that I replied Ben Wallace if he stands, Rishi failing that.
Today has been a fantastic day
Johnson claimed he had 100 nominations. He didn’t. It was another lie. Only those who declared publicly can be believed. How many were there?
59
It was 61 actually and 42 ready to declare if he had confirmed he was running plus mop up of 10 from the Mordaunt camp if she had pulled out at the moment of a Johnson declaration. "Says who? Is there a list? Did they go public or was this more like “of course I like you bestest Bowis, I weally weally do, I pwomise!” | |||
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"Nobody was complaining when they got paid to sit on their arse during COVID Now it's time to pay it back with interest Apart from all the people who developed depression or committed suicide because of the isolation, the couples whose relationships broke down, the children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and all of those who found themselves on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes? Labour wanted to lockdown for harder and longer than the Tories, so there would have been more depression, more suicide because of the isolation, more couples whose relationships broke down, more children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and more on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes. Labour delivering more
And more debt
£4 billion written off because of fraud
Double that if it had been Labour. Isn't fraud the fault of the fraudsters anyway?
More baseless conjecture. Wouldn’t hold up in court, or a libel case for that matter!
Educated guess
Your anti-Mr and Mrs Sunak rants - now that's baseless conjecture. You excel at that and sarcasm - Larry the cat for PM indeed
Nah no baseless conjecture with the Sunaks. The info is all there. The will to do something wasn’t and now he has the top job it won’t be!
BTW you were making baseless conjecture about a political party who have not been in power for over 12 years and were run by a completely different set of people. Not the same as looking at information that is available in issues that happened in last couple of years. You know that right?
If Labour gain power in '25, it will have been a political party who have not been in power for over 15 years. You know that right?
Do you know why though?
Hint: they always always mess things up and people therefore kept sensibly voting Tory.
But you know that is a trope right...
Like-for-like comparison before impact of an international crisis.
UK Government Debt in 2007/08 = £0.64tn (before Financial Crisis and after 10yrs in power)
UK Government Debt in 2018/19 = £1.82tn (before Covid pandemic and after nearly a decade of austerity and power)
Misleading! You conveniently leave out the figure in 2010 for UK Government Debt after 13 years of ruinous Labour rule. And you don't express it as a percentage of GDP!
The tories have failed and they will be voted out at the next GE, they are extremely unpopular
In your head
The lefties always take vociferously to social media, saw it all in 2015, 17 and 19! It gives the impression of a landslide for Labour coming ha ha. How did those years end?
Well let’s see, labour didn’t have a 25 point advantage in any of those years, the tories are extremely unpopular right now, hopefully Rishi can steady the ship but the damage is done, "They did in 1990 and 1991 and went on to lose the 1992 election. They turned out not to be 'alright' | |||
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"Nobody was complaining when they got paid to sit on their arse during COVID Now it's time to pay it back with interest Apart from all the people who developed depression or committed suicide because of the isolation, the couples whose relationships broke down, the children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and all of those who found themselves on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes? Labour wanted to lockdown for harder and longer than the Tories, so there would have been more depression, more suicide because of the isolation, more couples whose relationships broke down, more children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and more on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes. Labour delivering more
And more debt
£4 billion written off because of fraud
Double that if it had been Labour. Isn't fraud the fault of the fraudsters anyway?
More baseless conjecture. Wouldn’t hold up in court, or a libel case for that matter!
Educated guess
Your anti-Mr and Mrs Sunak rants - now that's baseless conjecture. You excel at that and sarcasm - Larry the cat for PM indeed
Nah no baseless conjecture with the Sunaks. The info is all there. The will to do something wasn’t and now he has the top job it won’t be!
BTW you were making baseless conjecture about a political party who have not been in power for over 12 years and were run by a completely different set of people. Not the same as looking at information that is available in issues that happened in last couple of years. You know that right?
If Labour gain power in '25, it will have been a political party who have not been in power for over 15 years. You know that right?
Do you know why though?
Hint: they always always mess things up and people therefore kept sensibly voting Tory.
But you know that is a trope right...
Like-for-like comparison before impact of an international crisis.
UK Government Debt in 2007/08 = £0.64tn (before Financial Crisis and after 10yrs in power)
UK Government Debt in 2018/19 = £1.82tn (before Covid pandemic and after nearly a decade of austerity and power)
Misleading! You conveniently leave out the figure in 2010 for UK Government Debt after 13 years of ruinous Labour rule. And you don't express it as a percentage of GDP!
The tories have failed and they will be voted out at the next GE, they are extremely unpopular
In your head
The lefties always take vociferously to social media, saw it all in 2015, 17 and 19! It gives the impression of a landslide for Labour coming ha ha. How did those years end?
Well let’s see, labour didn’t have a 25 point advantage in any of those years, the tories are extremely unpopular right now, hopefully Rishi can steady the ship but the damage is done,
They did in 1990 and 1991 and went on to lose the 1992 election. They turned out not to be 'alright' "They didn’t, they might have done before 1997, but that was proven correct when they handed the Tories a humiliating thrashing | |||
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"Nobody was complaining when they got paid to sit on their arse during COVID Now it's time to pay it back with interest Apart from all the people who developed depression or committed suicide because of the isolation, the couples whose relationships broke down, the children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and all of those who found themselves on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes? Labour wanted to lockdown for harder and longer than the Tories, so there would have been more depression, more suicide because of the isolation, more couples whose relationships broke down, more children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and more on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes. Labour delivering more
And more debt
I'm not really sure how your response relates to the actual point I was making in any way, but you do you.
It is standard broken record response from the broken Tory party, denial, deflection and delusion, no wonder they are so unpopular
Denial, deflection and delusion - illiteration
How do you that so well, yet mangle your and you're
Thanks, anyway, what happens to Spaffer ? I thought he was proven winner, he couldn’t even get past the first hurdle
What happens to him in what respect?
Being a loser, trying to return and being thoroughly rejected by the Tory party. humiliation
You're back to making no sense again. In response to 'what happens to Spaffer' - he remains an MP unless Rishi offers him a Cabinet job.
Your missing the point again, he tried and failed miserably to become the PM, all those pathetic MPs who backed him have been made to look like even bigger fools, humiliation
I answered the question 'what happens to Spaffer'
How is that missing the point?
Boris had well over 100 nominations but did the decent thing in the interests of unity. How is that humiliating? You asked me 5 days ago who I was supporting and it is time stamped that I replied Ben Wallace if he stands, Rishi failing that.
Today has been a fantastic day
He didn’t have 100 , he lied and you believed him, humiliation
I know for a fact he would have polled 113
No you don’t, that is a blatant lie, if you know for a fact , prove it "In the words of Birldn 'Nah this is more fun' | |||
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"Nobody was complaining when they got paid to sit on their arse during COVID Now it's time to pay it back with interest Apart from all the people who developed depression or committed suicide because of the isolation, the couples whose relationships broke down, the children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and all of those who found themselves on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes? Labour wanted to lockdown for harder and longer than the Tories, so there would have been more depression, more suicide because of the isolation, more couples whose relationships broke down, more children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and more on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes. Labour delivering more
And more debt
£4 billion written off because of fraud
Double that if it had been Labour. Isn't fraud the fault of the fraudsters anyway?
More baseless conjecture. Wouldn’t hold up in court, or a libel case for that matter!
Educated guess
Your anti-Mr and Mrs Sunak rants - now that's baseless conjecture. You excel at that and sarcasm - Larry the cat for PM indeed
Nah no baseless conjecture with the Sunaks. The info is all there. The will to do something wasn’t and now he has the top job it won’t be!
BTW you were making baseless conjecture about a political party who have not been in power for over 12 years and were run by a completely different set of people. Not the same as looking at information that is available in issues that happened in last couple of years. You know that right?
If Labour gain power in '25, it will have been a political party who have not been in power for over 15 years. You know that right?
Do you know why though?
Hint: they always always mess things up and people therefore kept sensibly voting Tory.
But you know that is a trope right...
Like-for-like comparison before impact of an international crisis.
UK Government Debt in 2007/08 = £0.64tn (before Financial Crisis and after 10yrs in power)
UK Government Debt in 2018/19 = £1.82tn (before Covid pandemic and after nearly a decade of austerity and power)
Misleading! You conveniently leave out the figure in 2010 for UK Government Debt after 13 years of ruinous Labour rule. And you don't express it as a percentage of GDP!
The tories have failed and they will be voted out at the next GE, they are extremely unpopular
In your head
The lefties always take vociferously to social media, saw it all in 2015, 17 and 19! It gives the impression of a landslide for Labour coming ha ha. How did those years end?
Well let’s see, labour didn’t have a 25 point advantage in any of those years, the tories are extremely unpopular right now, hopefully Rishi can steady the ship but the damage is done,
They did in 1990 and 1991 and went on to lose the 1992 election. They turned out not to be 'alright' "You do like history don’t you. There was a time when the Conservative party were, well the Conservative party. Now they are UKIP mk2. | |||
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"Nobody was complaining when they got paid to sit on their arse during COVID Now it's time to pay it back with interest Apart from all the people who developed depression or committed suicide because of the isolation, the couples whose relationships broke down, the children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and all of those who found themselves on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes? Labour wanted to lockdown for harder and longer than the Tories, so there would have been more depression, more suicide because of the isolation, more couples whose relationships broke down, more children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and more on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes. Labour delivering more
And more debt
I'm not really sure how your response relates to the actual point I was making in any way, but you do you.
It is standard broken record response from the broken Tory party, denial, deflection and delusion, no wonder they are so unpopular
Denial, deflection and delusion - illiteration
How do you that so well, yet mangle your and you're
Thanks, anyway, what happens to Spaffer ? I thought he was proven winner, he couldn’t even get past the first hurdle
What happens to him in what respect?
Being a loser, trying to return and being thoroughly rejected by the Tory party. humiliation
You're back to making no sense again. In response to 'what happens to Spaffer' - he remains an MP unless Rishi offers him a Cabinet job.
Your missing the point again, he tried and failed miserably to become the PM, all those pathetic MPs who backed him have been made to look like even bigger fools, humiliation
I answered the question 'what happens to Spaffer'
How is that missing the point?
Boris had well over 100 nominations but did the decent thing in the interests of unity. How is that humiliating? You asked me 5 days ago who I was supporting and it is time stamped that I replied Ben Wallace if he stands, Rishi failing that.
Today has been a fantastic day
He didn’t have 100 , he lied and you believed him, humiliation
I know for a fact he would have polled 113
No you don’t, that is a blatant lie, if you know for a fact , prove it
In the words of Birldn 'Nah this is more fun' "Ha, I will give you that, fair enough, lets pretend he got the 100, that is still pathetic , humiliation | |||
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"Nobody was complaining when they got paid to sit on their arse during COVID Now it's time to pay it back with interest Apart from all the people who developed depression or committed suicide because of the isolation, the couples whose relationships broke down, the children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and all of those who found themselves on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes? Labour wanted to lockdown for harder and longer than the Tories, so there would have been more depression, more suicide because of the isolation, more couples whose relationships broke down, more children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and more on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes. Labour delivering more
And more debt
£4 billion written off because of fraud
Double that if it had been Labour. Isn't fraud the fault of the fraudsters anyway?
More baseless conjecture. Wouldn’t hold up in court, or a libel case for that matter!
Educated guess
Your anti-Mr and Mrs Sunak rants - now that's baseless conjecture. You excel at that and sarcasm - Larry the cat for PM indeed
Nah no baseless conjecture with the Sunaks. The info is all there. The will to do something wasn’t and now he has the top job it won’t be!
BTW you were making baseless conjecture about a political party who have not been in power for over 12 years and were run by a completely different set of people. Not the same as looking at information that is available in issues that happened in last couple of years. You know that right?
If Labour gain power in '25, it will have been a political party who have not been in power for over 15 years. You know that right?
Do you know why though?
Hint: they always always mess things up and people therefore kept sensibly voting Tory.
But you know that is a trope right...
Like-for-like comparison before impact of an international crisis.
UK Government Debt in 2007/08 = £0.64tn (before Financial Crisis and after 10yrs in power)
UK Government Debt in 2018/19 = £1.82tn (before Covid pandemic and after nearly a decade of austerity and power)
Misleading! You conveniently leave out the figure in 2010 for UK Government Debt after 13 years of ruinous Labour rule. And you don't express it as a percentage of GDP!
The tories have failed and they will be voted out at the next GE, they are extremely unpopular
In your head
The lefties always take vociferously to social media, saw it all in 2015, 17 and 19! It gives the impression of a landslide for Labour coming ha ha. How did those years end?
Well let’s see, labour didn’t have a 25 point advantage in any of those years, the tories are extremely unpopular right now, hopefully Rishi can steady the ship but the damage is done,
They did in 1990 and 1991 and went on to lose the 1992 election. They turned out not to be 'alright'
They didn’t, they might have done before 1997, but that was proven correct when they handed the Tories a humiliating thrashing "Ipsos gave Labour a lead of between 23 and 24 points for most of March and April 1990. The 1992 general election was a bad one for the British political polling industry. During the campaign, the vast majority of polls put Labour ahead and of the final round of polls three put Labour ahead, one put Labour and the Conservatives neck-and-neck and only one – Gallup – gave the Conservatives a lead, but even that was a mere 0.5%. The actual result? A Conservative lead of 7.6% | |||
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"Nobody was complaining when they got paid to sit on their arse during COVID Now it's time to pay it back with interest Apart from all the people who developed depression or committed suicide because of the isolation, the couples whose relationships broke down, the children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and all of those who found themselves on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes? Labour wanted to lockdown for harder and longer than the Tories, so there would have been more depression, more suicide because of the isolation, more couples whose relationships broke down, more children who lost any safeguarding mechanisms, and more on the receiving end of escalating abuse away from prying eyes. Labour delivering more
And more debt
£4 billion written off because of fraud
Double that if it had been Labour. Isn't fraud the fault of the fraudsters anyway?
More baseless conjecture. Wouldn’t hold up in court, or a libel case for that matter!
Educated guess
Your anti-Mr and Mrs Sunak rants - now that's baseless conjecture. You excel at that and sarcasm - Larry the cat for PM indeed
Nah no baseless conjecture with the Sunaks. The info is all there. The will to do something wasn’t and now he has the top job it won’t be!
BTW you were making baseless conjecture about a political party who have not been in power for over 12 years and were run by a completely different set of people. Not the same as looking at information that is available in issues that happened in last couple of years. You know that right?
If Labour gain power in '25, it will have been a political party who have not been in power for over 15 years. You know that right?
Do you know why though?
Hint: they always always mess things up and people therefore kept sensibly voting Tory.
But you know that is a trope right...
Like-for-like comparison before impact of an international crisis.
UK Government Debt in 2007/08 = £0.64tn (before Financial Crisis and after 10yrs in power)
UK Government Debt in 2018/19 = £1.82tn (before Covid pandemic and after nearly a decade of austerity and power)
Misleading! You conveniently leave out the figure in 2010 for UK Government Debt after 13 years of ruinous Labour rule. And you don't express it as a percentage of GDP!
The tories have failed and they will be voted out at the next GE, they are extremely unpopular
In your head
The lefties always take vociferously to social media, saw it all in 2015, 17 and 19! It gives the impression of a landslide for Labour coming ha ha. How did those years end?
Well let’s see, labour didn’t have a 25 point advantage in any of those years, the tories are extremely unpopular right now, hopefully Rishi can steady the ship but the damage is done,
They did in 1990 and 1991 and went on to lose the 1992 election. They turned out not to be 'alright'
You do like history don’t you. There was a time when the Conservative party were, well the Conservative party. Now they are UKIP mk2."I agree somewhat, but it is the best fit for me. Some of the racism directed against Rishi has been thinly camouflaged and is an utter utter disgrace. Please be reassured I am not thinking of you. Although we have disagreements politically, you do at least try to play the ball and not the man. | |||
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"Thoughts? He came 2nd to Liz and look how bad she did. Alot of the Party didnt want him but are voting for him to try and save their own skin at the next GE. He broke numerous covid laws while he was Chancellor. " How he performs as PM is all that matters as far as I can see. It looks like he is at least facing reality which is an improvement from Liz. Most of us are in for some lean years ahead sadly | |||
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"Pat has said the exact same thing!!!!!!" When and where? You really are wrong on this and honestly much much better than this. | |||
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"Thoughts? He came 2nd to Liz and look how bad she did. Alot of the Party didnt want him but are voting for him to try and save their own skin at the next GE. He broke numerous covid laws while he was Chancellor. How he performs as PM is all that matters as far as I can see. It looks like he is at least facing reality which is an improvement from Liz. Most of us are in for some lean years ahead sadly" Correct. Things are not great globally and Captain Hindsight will struggle in '25. | |||
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"Pat has said the exact same thing!!!!!! When and where? You really are wrong on this and honestly much much better than this. " How do you know I am better than this? What is “this”? I am getting increasingly convinced about the connection. However, about those UK Govt debt as % of GDP. We going back to that? | |||
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"Pat has said the exact same thing!!!!!! When and where? You really are wrong on this and honestly much much better than this. How do you know I am better than this? What is “this”? I am getting increasingly convinced about the connection. However, about those UK Govt debt as % of GDP. We going back to that?" Better than the insinuations I am Pat, whoever he is. I will engage with you once this is cleared up. You may message me privately if you are anxious about naming him in the forums. | |||
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"I hope he can prove that he his the right PM, because 7 PM in seven weeks really is shameful! In my opinion we should have had general elections "7 - have I missed 4? | |||
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"I hope he can prove that he his the right PM, because 3 PM in seven weeks really is shameful! In my opinion we should have had general elections
7 - have I missed 4? "Miss typing , i have corrected i meant 3 pm | |||
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"Thoughts? He came 2nd to Liz and look how bad she did. Alot of the Party didnt want him but are voting for him to try and save their own skin at the next GE. He broke numerous covid laws while he was Chancellor. How he performs as PM is all that matters as far as I can see. It looks like he is at least facing reality which is an improvement from Liz. Most of us are in for some lean years ahead sadly" Yep, it is going to be very very grim, I honestly hope he can get us through this because the last 2 PMs have left him with a huge mess | |||
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"Pat has said the exact same thing!!!!!! When and where? You really are wrong on this and honestly much much better than this. How do you know I am better than this? What is “this”? I am getting increasingly convinced about the connection. However, about those UK Govt debt as % of GDP. We going back to that? Better than the insinuations I am Pat, whoever he is. I will engage with you once this is cleared up. You may message me privately if you are anxious about naming him in the forums. " Let’s do it... UK Government Debt under Labour 2007/08 = £0.64tn (before Financial Crisis and after 10yrs in power) = 34% GDP 2009/10 = 1.08tn (after the global financial crash and follow on recession) = 62.4% GDP UK Government Debt under Conservatives 2018/19 = £1.82tn (before Covid pandemic and after nearly a decade of austerity and power) = 78.4% GDP 2020/21 = £2.13tn (after global pandemic) = 94% GDP Guardians of the public purse LOL | |||
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"Let’s do it... UK Government Debt under Labour 2007/08 = £0.64tn (before Financial Crisis and after 10yrs in power) = 34% GDP 2009/10 = 1.08tn (after the global financial crash and follow on recession) = 62.4% GDP UK Government Debt under Conservatives 2018/19 = £1.82tn (before Covid pandemic and after nearly a decade of austerity and power) = 78.4% GDP 2020/21 = £2.13tn (after global pandemic) = 94% GDP Guardians of the public purse LOL" The interesting question is why? Where is the money being squandered? Over your timeframe NHS spending has doubled as a proportion of GDP but the service is much worse. Councils get more of our money but again the service is worse. Poorly maintained roads, library and swimming pool closures, 3 weekly bin collections to name but a few. | |||
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" UK Government Debt £2.5tn The interesting question is why? Where is the money being squandered? ." Not so much squandered but not enough collected. Tax cuts have significantly reduced state income, impacted on more cuts and austerity History of UK corporation tax. 1982 52% 1983 50% 1984 45% 1985 40% 1990 35% 1997 33% 1998 31% 2007 30% 2010 28% 2011 26% 2012 24% 2013 23% 2014 21% 2016 20% 2017 19% | |||
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"Let’s do it... UK Government Debt under Labour 2007/08 = £0.64tn (before Financial Crisis and after 10yrs in power) = 34% GDP 2009/10 = 1.08tn (after the global financial crash and follow on recession) = 62.4% GDP UK Government Debt under Conservatives 2018/19 = £1.82tn (before Covid pandemic and after nearly a decade of austerity and power) = 78.4% GDP 2020/21 = £2.13tn (after global pandemic) = 94% GDP Guardians of the public purse LOL The interesting question is why? Where is the money being squandered? Over your timeframe NHS spending has doubled as a proportion of GDP but the service is much worse. Councils get more of our money but again the service is worse. Poorly maintained roads, library and swimming pool closures, 3 weekly bin collections to name but a few." The answer is actually quite simple. The increased outsourcing in the public sector to the private sector. As soon as you introduce the requirement to make profits to create shareholder profit you have to either reduce the service and pay the same or pay more (and eventually it is never enough). | |||
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"First Prime Minister ever whose wife holds a non dom avoiding millions in uk tax" Well, he would be, if she hadn't given up her non-dom status back in April. | |||
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"First Prime Minister ever whose wife holds a non dom avoiding millions in uk tax Well, he would be, if she hadn't given up her non-dom status back in April." After getting found out. She could have done it when he became an MP but they obviously thought it would never come out. Saved herself an estimated £20m in tax. | |||
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"I am not aware that she has done anything illegal, I think any of us would reduce our tax bill by any legal means if we could." We will never know because she paid £30k annually to HMRC so that avoided any form of scrutiny on her overseas earnings. It is a great little loophole available to the seriously wealthy. Because otherwise her claimed Non-Dom status was very suspect. Her advisors clearly thought so too as just two days after the leak she decided to change her Non-Dom status going forward. If her Non-Dom was watertight she would have nothing to hide. | |||
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"I am not aware that she has done anything illegal, I think any of us would reduce our tax bill by any legal means if we could. We will never know because she paid £30k annually to HMRC so that avoided any form of scrutiny on her overseas earnings. It is a great little loophole available to the seriously wealthy. Because otherwise her claimed Non-Dom status was very suspect. Her advisors clearly thought so too as just two days after the leak she decided to change her Non-Dom status going forward. If her Non-Dom was watertight she would have nothing to hide." P.S. but none of us are married to the person ultimately responsible for all UK tax legislation. Notice how Labour want to clamp down on Non-Dom loopholes. Not a word on that from Sunak of course! | |||
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"Does this mean that King Charles III will at last make an appearance in the news?" ..and I missed it whilst blinking! Guess he also had to say goodbye to to Truss. Arduous duties but presumably no crown needed. | |||
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"I just wish to fook everyone would give the back stabbing a rest for a while and stop wasting valuable time and let them get on sorting the problems facing us all. Let he /she who is without blame cast the first stone." Except they are not without blame are they. They created this shit storm. They've just appointed the richest MP to become Prime Minister without a single vote being cast. No wonder people are furious. The illusion that we live in a democracy slips from time to time and people see behind the curtain. | |||
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"They've just appointed the richest MP to become Prime Minister without a single vote being cast." There were votes cast, they were cast by Tory MPs, and Rishi got more than anyone else. There are no rules about people being rich. "The illusion that we live in a democracy slips from time to time and people see behind the curtain." We do live in a democracy, but the appointing of a Prime Minister is not a democratic process, and never has been. If you don't like the rules, campaign to have them changed. Whingeing that "it's not fair" isn't going to get you anywhere. | |||
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"I just wish to fook everyone would give the back stabbing a rest for a while and stop wasting valuable time and let them get on sorting the problems facing us all. Let he /she who is without blame cast the first stone." By "everyone" do you mean the Tories, who are backstabbing eachother constantly, or do you mean members of the British public who are criticising the government? Also, you appear to be under the mistaken belief that the government has "sorting out the problems facing us all" on their agenda. Firstly, they are millionaires, and are not facing any of the problems we are. And secondly, they couldn't give the slightest fuck about ordinary British people. | |||
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"They've just appointed the richest MP to become Prime Minister without a single vote being cast. There were votes cast, they were cast by Tory MPs, and Rishi got more than anyone else. There are no rules about people being rich. The illusion that we live in a democracy slips from time to time and people see behind the curtain. We do live in a democracy, but the appointing of a Prime Minister is not a democratic process, and never has been. If you don't like the rules, campaign to have them changed. Whingeing that "it's not fair" isn't going to get you anywhere." The poster you replied to did not say "it's not fair" in their post. You made it up. | |||
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"They've just appointed the richest MP to become Prime Minister without a single vote being cast. There were votes cast, they were cast by Tory MPs, and Rishi got more than anyone else. There are no rules about people being rich. The illusion that we live in a democracy slips from time to time and people see behind the curtain. We do live in a democracy, but the appointing of a Prime Minister is not a democratic process, and never has been. If you don't like the rules, campaign to have them changed. Whingeing that "it's not fair" isn't going to get you anywhere." If the appointment of the PM has ‘never’ been a democratic process then we don’t live in a democracy | |||
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"They've just appointed the richest MP to become Prime Minister without a single vote being cast." "There were votes cast, they were cast by Tory MPs, and Rishi got more than anyone else. There are no rules about people being rich." "The illusion that we live in a democracy slips from time to time and people see behind the curtain." "We do live in a democracy, but the appointing of a Prime Minister is not a democratic process, and never has been. If you don't like the rules, campaign to have them changed. Whingeing that "it's not fair" isn't going to get you anywhere." "The poster you replied to did not say "it's not fair" in their post. You made it up." That's true, I was summarising his position, so I should have used single quotes. Good to see people using semantic arguments in this forum. | |||
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"If the appointment of the PM has ‘never’ been a democratic process then we don’t live in a democracy " I challenge you to find a dictionary definition of 'democracy' that matches your statement. | |||
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"If the appointment of the PM has ‘never’ been a democratic process then we don’t live in a democracy I challenge you to find a dictionary definition of 'democracy' that matches your statement." You made the error, of course the PM has been ‘democratically’ appointed, if they hadn’t how can it be a democracy ? | |||
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"They've just appointed the richest MP to become Prime Minister without a single vote being cast. There were votes cast, they were cast by Tory MPs, and Rishi got more than anyone else. There are no rules about people being rich. The illusion that we live in a democracy slips from time to time and people see behind the curtain. We do live in a democracy, but the appointing of a Prime Minister is not a democratic process, and never has been. If you don't like the rules, campaign to have them changed. Whingeing that "it's not fair" isn't going to get you anywhere. The poster you replied to did not say "it's not fair" in their post. You made it up. That's true, I was summarising his position, so I should have used single quotes. Good to see people using semantic arguments in this forum." | |||
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"If the appointment of the PM has ‘never’ been a democratic process then we don’t live in a democracy" "I challenge you to find a dictionary definition of 'democracy' that matches your statement." "You made the error, of course the PM has been ‘democratically’ appointed, if they hadn’t how can it be a democracy ? " Ah! I think I see the issue. None of the accepted definitions of 'democracy' specify that the 'leader' of the house of elected representatives must be elected by the people. To put it in British terms, a government is democratically elected by the people, who vote for the person they want to represent them in the House of Commons. Those representatives then get to choose who they want to be in the position of first among equals, or 'prime' minister. The PM was not democratically elected, but the government was, so this country is a democracy. | |||
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"They've just appointed the richest MP to become Prime Minister without a single vote being cast. There were votes cast, they were cast by Tory MPs, and Rishi got more than anyone else. There are no rules about people being rich. The illusion that we live in a democracy slips from time to time and people see behind the curtain. We do live in a democracy, but the appointing of a Prime Minister is not a democratic process, and never has been. If you don't like the rules, campaign to have them changed. Whingeing that "it's not fair" isn't going to get you anywhere. If the appointment of the PM has ‘never’ been a democratic process then we don’t live in a democracy " Of course we do. Rattled SNP and Labourites know it too, whether it's Brexit 2016, Indy Ref 1 2014, Tory landslide 2019. If you don't like it, campaign to change it. Oh wait..... that too was another loss for the metropolitan elite socialists in 2011 in the AV referendum
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"If the appointment of the PM has ‘never’ been a democratic process then we don’t live in a democracy I challenge you to find a dictionary definition of 'democracy' that matches your statement. You made the error, of course the PM has been ‘democratically’ appointed, if they hadn’t how can it be a democracy ? Ah! I think I see the issue. None of the accepted definitions of 'democracy' specify that the 'leader' of the house of elected representatives must be elected by the people. To put it in British terms, a government is democratically elected by the people, who vote for the person they want to represent them in the House of Commons. Those representatives then get to choose who they want to be in the position of first among equals, or 'prime' minister. The PM was not democratically elected, but the government was, so this country is a democracy." And therein lies the problem. In the UK you vote for your constituency MP. The party with the most MPs is then able to form a government and the leader of that party is made Prime Minister. Those are the facts. However... Both the media and a large chunk (majority) of the voting public focus on that leader as if it were a presidential election. People actually make statements like “I voted for Boris” except as per the facts above, only those in Johnson’s constituency voted for him. People do vote on the basis of what they think about the leader of a party. How many people said “always voted Labour but can’t vote for that Corbyn!” So there is a serious disconnect between how democracy works in the UK and how many people perceive/believe it to work. It is therefore clearly broken and needs to change. I think it is easy to forgive people being angry they have had no say over electing the new Prime Minister(s) when they have, wrongly, believed they were voting for them in 2019! | |||
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"They've just appointed the richest MP to become Prime Minister without a single vote being cast. There were votes cast, they were cast by Tory MPs, and Rishi got more than anyone else. There are no rules about people being rich. The illusion that we live in a democracy slips from time to time and people see behind the curtain. We do live in a democracy, but the appointing of a Prime Minister is not a democratic process, and never has been. If you don't like the rules, campaign to have them changed. Whingeing that "it's not fair" isn't going to get you anywhere. If the appointment of the PM has ‘never’ been a democratic process then we don’t live in a democracy Of course we do. Rattled SNP and Labourites know it too, whether it's Brexit 2016, Indy Ref 1 2014, Tory landslide 2019. If you don't like it, campaign to change it. Oh wait..... that too was another loss for the metropolitan elite socialists in 2011 in the AV referendum
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"If the appointment of the PM has ‘never’ been a democratic process then we don’t live in a democracy I challenge you to find a dictionary definition of 'democracy' that matches your statement. You made the error, of course the PM has been ‘democratically’ appointed, if they hadn’t how can it be a democracy ? Ah! I think I see the issue. None of the accepted definitions of 'democracy' specify that the 'leader' of the house of elected representatives must be elected by the people. To put it in British terms, a government is democratically elected by the people, who vote for the person they want to represent them in the House of Commons. Those representatives then get to choose who they want to be in the position of first among equals, or 'prime' minister. The PM was not democratically elected, but the government was, so this country is a democracy. And therein lies the problem. In the UK you vote for your constituency MP. The party with the most MPs is then able to form a government and the leader of that party is made Prime Minister. Those are the facts. However... Both the media and a large chunk (majority) of the voting public focus on that leader as if it were a presidential election. People actually make statements like “I voted for Boris” except as per the facts above, only those in Johnson’s constituency voted for him. People do vote on the basis of what they think about the leader of a party. How many people said “always voted Labour but can’t vote for that Corbyn!” So there is a serious disconnect between how democracy works in the UK and how many people perceive/believe it to work. It is therefore clearly broken and needs to change. I think it is easy to forgive people being angry they have had no say over electing the new Prime Minister(s) when they have, wrongly, believed they were voting for them in 2019!" Are you suggesting a president? | |||
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"I think it is easy to forgive people being angry they have had no say over electing the new Prime Minister(s) when they have, wrongly, believed they were voting for them in 2019!" I would respectfully disagree. If people are that disconnected from the political system, then they really shouldn't be voting at all. | |||
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"If the appointment of the PM has ‘never’ been a democratic process then we don’t live in a democracy I challenge you to find a dictionary definition of 'democracy' that matches your statement. You made the error, of course the PM has been ‘democratically’ appointed, if they hadn’t how can it be a democracy ? Ah! I think I see the issue. None of the accepted definitions of 'democracy' specify that the 'leader' of the house of elected representatives must be elected by the people. To put it in British terms, a government is democratically elected by the people, who vote for the person they want to represent them in the House of Commons. Those representatives then get to choose who they want to be in the position of first among equals, or 'prime' minister. The PM was not democratically elected, but the government was, so this country is a democracy. And therein lies the problem. In the UK you vote for your constituency MP. The party with the most MPs is then able to form a government and the leader of that party is made Prime Minister. Those are the facts. However... Both the media and a large chunk (majority) of the voting public focus on that leader as if it were a presidential election. People actually make statements like “I voted for Boris” except as per the facts above, only those in Johnson’s constituency voted for him. People do vote on the basis of what they think about the leader of a party. How many people said “always voted Labour but can’t vote for that Corbyn!” So there is a serious disconnect between how democracy works in the UK and how many people perceive/believe it to work. It is therefore clearly broken and needs to change. I think it is easy to forgive people being angry they have had no say over electing the new Prime Minister(s) when they have, wrongly, believed they were voting for them in 2019!" Excellent post | |||
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"They've just appointed the richest MP to become Prime Minister without a single vote being cast. There were votes cast, they were cast by Tory MPs, and Rishi got more than anyone else. There are no rules about people being rich. The illusion that we live in a democracy slips from time to time and people see behind the curtain. We do live in a democracy, but the appointing of a Prime Minister is not a democratic process, and never has been. If you don't like the rules, campaign to have them changed. Whingeing that "it's not fair" isn't going to get you anywhere. If the appointment of the PM has ‘never’ been a democratic process then we don’t live in a democracy Of course we do. Rattled SNP and Labourites know it too, whether it's Brexit 2016, Indy Ref 1 2014, Tory landslide 2019. If you don't like it, campaign to change it. Oh wait..... that too was another loss for the metropolitan elite socialists in 2011 in the AV referendum
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AV was a fudge that very few people actually understood. We need PR!"What percentage do you deem 'actually understood' AV referendum? What percentage do you deem actually understood Brexit referendum? Is there not a danger that 'losers consent' is slipping away in this country because a noisey few just don't like the result? | |||
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"I think it is easy to forgive people being angry they have had no say over electing the new Prime Minister(s) when they have, wrongly, believed they were voting for them in 2019! I would respectfully disagree. If people are that disconnected from the political system, then they really shouldn't be voting at all." But... but.... they didn't know what they were voting for! Let them have another go! | |||
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"I think it is easy to forgive people being angry they have had no say over electing the new Prime Minister(s) when they have, wrongly, believed they were voting for them in 2019! I would respectfully disagree. If people are that disconnected from the political system, then they really shouldn't be voting at all." You mean like a vast majority of those who voted Leave in 2016? Yes I agree | |||
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"They've just appointed the richest MP to become Prime Minister without a single vote being cast. There were votes cast, they were cast by Tory MPs, and Rishi got more than anyone else. There are no rules about people being rich. The illusion that we live in a democracy slips from time to time and people see behind the curtain. We do live in a democracy, but the appointing of a Prime Minister is not a democratic process, and never has been. If you don't like the rules, campaign to have them changed. Whingeing that "it's not fair" isn't going to get you anywhere. If the appointment of the PM has ‘never’ been a democratic process then we don’t live in a democracy Of course we do. Rattled SNP and Labourites know it too, whether it's Brexit 2016, Indy Ref 1 2014, Tory landslide 2019. If you don't like it, campaign to change it. Oh wait..... that too was another loss for the metropolitan elite socialists in 2011 in the AV referendum
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AV was a fudge that very few people actually understood. We need PR!
What percentage do you deem 'actually understood' AV referendum?
What percentage do you deem actually understood Brexit referendum?
Is there not a danger that 'losers consent' is slipping away in this country because a noisey few just don't like the result?
"MrDiscretion is right. Thick people should not be allowed to vote! The percentages were low (in fact plenty of research showed that people who did not undertake higher education over indexed in their support of Leave). I jest! There should be a requirement for total impartiality in the media. It will never happen because of vested interests. We live in a soundbite entertainment driven world. Some people like Johnson because he was “fun”. Same people don’t like Starmer because he is “dull”. | |||
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"He was shit as a chancellor, spent way too money and increased debt while loading us with the highest tax burden in 70 years - mainly by stealth. Not much hope of him getting any better. Trouble is that Labour wanted to spend even more - harder lockdown, more support etc. Yes he should have not initiated the furlow scheme or any of the business loans/grants or indeed the lockdowns after the first one should not have happened. Were it not for furlough, millions of jobs would have been lost. What should have been done instead? We now have the lowest unemployment on record thanks to the Tories "You have heard of zero hour contacts? Right? | |||
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"He was shit as a chancellor, spent way too money and increased debt while loading us with the highest tax burden in 70 years - mainly by stealth. Not much hope of him getting any better. Trouble is that Labour wanted to spend even more - harder lockdown, more support etc. Yes he should have not initiated the furlow scheme or any of the business loans/grants or indeed the lockdowns after the first one should not have happened. Were it not for furlough, millions of jobs would have been lost. What should have been done instead? We now have the lowest unemployment on record thanks to the Tories
You have heard of zero hour contacts? Right?"Not all zero hours contracts are unfair. They can work well as a device to allow employers and employees to find an arrangement that suits their particular circumstances. Once in Government, Tony Blair was persuaded that the flexibility involved in zero hours contracts meant that they deserved a place in the British workplace. It was deemed that the introduction of the national minimum wage & the provisions on statutory annual leave in the Working Time Regulations gave sufficient protection to workers. These provisions apply to workers employed on zero hours contracts in the same way as they apply to permanent employees. You did know that? Right? | |||
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"He was shit as a chancellor, spent way too money and increased debt while loading us with the highest tax burden in 70 years - mainly by stealth. Not much hope of him getting any better. Trouble is that Labour wanted to spend even more - harder lockdown, more support etc. Yes he should have not initiated the furlow scheme or any of the business loans/grants or indeed the lockdowns after the first one should not have happened. Were it not for furlough, millions of jobs would have been lost. What should have been done instead? We now have the lowest unemployment on record thanks to the Tories
You have heard of zero hour contacts? Right?
Not all zero hours contracts are unfair. They can work well as a device to allow employers and employees to find an arrangement that suits their particular circumstances.
Once in Government, Tony Blair was persuaded that the flexibility involved in zero hours contracts meant that they deserved a place in the British workplace.
It was deemed that the introduction of the national minimum wage & the provisions on statutory annual leave in the Working Time Regulations gave sufficient protection to workers.
These provisions apply to workers employed on zero hours contracts in the same way as they apply to permanent employees.
You did know that? Right?"All good in theory but in practice it means employers control when and if a person works. If they turn down the work they are often then overlooked for hours in future in favour of more “reliable” workers. People assume this only applies to low paid retail or warehouse type workers. IR35 has resulted in the creation of no-rights employees. Great for the “employer” but not so great for the worker. | |||
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