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"I was told a referral letter from someone. People on drugs? How would they know the use drugs? Overweight? No banquets dished out, it's basic food stuffs. Besides, some are overweight from eating cheap poor quality food." referral letter used to be the case these days they will help anyone who turns up | |||
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"I was told a referral letter from someone. People on drugs? How would they know the use drugs? Overweight? No banquets dished out, it's basic food stuffs. Besides, some are overweight from eating cheap poor quality food.referral letter used to be the case these days they will help anyone who turns up" That's actually not true. Almost all food almost all food banks require a referral. There are some set up where literally anybody can turn up they are normally called community pantries/fridges. | |||
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"referral letter used to be the case these days they will help anyone who turns up" And a good thing they do, staffed by volunteers and run on donations but this government is institutionalising them into part of the social infrastructure | |||
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"I was told a referral letter from someone. People on drugs? How would they know the use drugs? Overweight? No banquets dished out, it's basic food stuffs. Besides, some are overweight from eating cheap poor quality food.referral letter used to be the case these days they will help anyone who turns up That's actually not true. Almost all food almost all food banks require a referral. There are some set up where literally anybody can turn up they are normally called community pantries/fridges. " we have three foodbanks in my town and they are a jist turn up and we will help, they have been that way round here since the first lockdown, before that either the council or the yob centre had to refer you but not no more | |||
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"I was told a referral letter from someone. People on drugs? How would they know the use drugs? Overweight? No banquets dished out, it's basic food stuffs. Besides, some are overweight from eating cheap poor quality food.referral letter used to be the case these days they will help anyone who turns up That's actually not true. Almost all food almost all food banks require a referral. There are some set up where literally anybody can turn up they are normally called community pantries/fridges. we have three foodbanks in my town and they are a jist turn up and we will help, they have been that way round here since the first lockdown, before that either the council or the yob centre had to refer you but not no more" A quick look and the 3 that came up in your area of Boreham wood all state you need a referral. 2 of them are trust or trust and you cannot access them without a referral. Like I said since the 1st lockdown lots of other free food places have now sprung up but Most of those that rely on donations from the public have a referral system as to protect the food stock and the generosity of the people who donate. | |||
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"There is a direct correlation between obesity and poverty because it is often not about the amount of food but the quality and type of food people eat. Be honest high fat processed food is normally cheaper and you normally get more of it so more value for money. I do not think we should say to somebody you can starve simply because we do not agree with your life choices, Traditionally food banks were set up to help people who had drug or alcohol issues, Maybe homeless or on benefits. These are the very people that these food banks were set up to help but unfortunately because of austerity other people have also needed the help so rather than blame those who require this support we should blame those that have made this situation in the 1st place. "   | |||
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"I was told a referral letter from someone. People on drugs? How would they know the use drugs? Overweight? No banquets dished out, it's basic food stuffs. Besides, some are overweight from eating cheap poor quality food.referral letter used to be the case these days they will help anyone who turns up That's actually not true. Almost all food almost all food banks require a referral. There are some set up where literally anybody can turn up they are normally called community pantries/fridges. we have three foodbanks in my town and they are a jist turn up and we will help, they have been that way round here since the first lockdown, before that either the council or the yob centre had to refer you but not no more A quick look and the 3 that came up in your area of Boreham wood all state you need a referral. 2 of them are trust or trust and you cannot access them without a referral. Like I said since the 1st lockdown lots of other free food places have now sprung up but Most of those that rely on donations from the public have a referral system as to protect the food stock and the generosity of the people who donate." well i used them regular during lockdown with no referal at all and know people who are still using them with no referal, there website may say that but there not turning anyone away, i imagine i will be needing it again myself in the nxt month or so seems as im using all my cash on electric as stil not got my 66quid for my key meter that was supposed to have arrived by the 17th but still no sign of it | |||
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"I was told a referral letter from someone. People on drugs? How would they know the use drugs? Overweight? No banquets dished out, it's basic food stuffs. Besides, some are overweight from eating cheap poor quality food.referral letter used to be the case these days they will help anyone who turns up That's actually not true. Almost all food almost all food banks require a referral. There are some set up where literally anybody can turn up they are normally called community pantries/fridges. we have three foodbanks in my town and they are a jist turn up and we will help, they have been that way round here since the first lockdown, before that either the council or the yob centre had to refer you but not no more A quick look and the 3 that came up in your area of Boreham wood all state you need a referral. 2 of them are trust or trust and you cannot access them without a referral. Like I said since the 1st lockdown lots of other free food places have now sprung up but Most of those that rely on donations from the public have a referral system as to protect the food stock and the generosity of the people who donate.well i used them regular during lockdown with no referal at all and know people who are still using them with no referal, there website may say that but there not turning anyone away, i imagine i will be needing it again myself in the nxt month or so seems as im using all my cash on electric as stil not got my 66quid for my key meter that was supposed to have arrived by the 17th but still no sign of it" I know you say that you don't vote because politics doesn't effect you. (And you've every right not to vote). But it would appear that it has effected you, among all the other people who have been forced to use fold banks. Unless I mixed you up with someone else. In which case. Ignore. | |||
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"I was told a referral letter from someone. People on drugs? How would they know the use drugs? Overweight? No banquets dished out, it's basic food stuffs. Besides, some are overweight from eating cheap poor quality food.referral letter used to be the case these days they will help anyone who turns up That's actually not true. Almost all food almost all food banks require a referral. There are some set up where literally anybody can turn up they are normally called community pantries/fridges. we have three foodbanks in my town and they are a jist turn up and we will help, they have been that way round here since the first lockdown, before that either the council or the yob centre had to refer you but not no more A quick look and the 3 that came up in your area of Boreham wood all state you need a referral. 2 of them are trust or trust and you cannot access them without a referral. Like I said since the 1st lockdown lots of other free food places have now sprung up but Most of those that rely on donations from the public have a referral system as to protect the food stock and the generosity of the people who donate.well i used them regular during lockdown with no referal at all and know people who are still using them with no referal, there website may say that but there not turning anyone away, i imagine i will be needing it again myself in the nxt month or so seems as im using all my cash on electric as stil not got my 66quid for my key meter that was supposed to have arrived by the 17th but still no sign of it" It will come as a letter for you to produce with card or key to get topped up at a post office every month until the energy company bailout stops or into your money store the bank. | |||
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"I was told a referral letter from someone. People on drugs? How would they know the use drugs? Overweight? No banquets dished out, it's basic food stuffs. Besides, some are overweight from eating cheap poor quality food.referral letter used to be the case these days they will help anyone who turns up That's actually not true. Almost all food almost all food banks require a referral. There are some set up where literally anybody can turn up they are normally called community pantries/fridges. we have three foodbanks in my town and they are a jist turn up and we will help, they have been that way round here since the first lockdown, before that either the council or the yob centre had to refer you but not no more A quick look and the 3 that came up in your area of Boreham wood all state you need a referral. 2 of them are trust or trust and you cannot access them without a referral. Like I said since the 1st lockdown lots of other free food places have now sprung up but Most of those that rely on donations from the public have a referral system as to protect the food stock and the generosity of the people who donate.well i used them regular during lockdown with no referal at all and know people who are still using them with no referal, there website may say that but there not turning anyone away, i imagine i will be needing it again myself in the nxt month or so seems as im using all my cash on electric as stil not got my 66quid for my key meter that was supposed to have arrived by the 17th but still no sign of it It will come as a letter for you to produce with card or key to get topped up at a post office every month until the energy company bailout stops or into your money store the bank. "had a letter begining of month telling me voucher be here by 17th but like i said still no sign of it even rang british gas friday to c where it was got told it was sent out nearly two weeks ago so obviously not got it as posties keep striking | |||
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"I was told a referral letter from someone. People on drugs? How would they know the use drugs? Overweight? No banquets dished out, it's basic food stuffs. Besides, some are overweight from eating cheap poor quality food.referral letter used to be the case these days they will help anyone who turns up That's actually not true. Almost all food almost all food banks require a referral. There are some set up where literally anybody can turn up they are normally called community pantries/fridges. we have three foodbanks in my town and they are a jist turn up and we will help, they have been that way round here since the first lockdown, before that either the council or the yob centre had to refer you but not no more A quick look and the 3 that came up in your area of Boreham wood all state you need a referral. 2 of them are trust or trust and you cannot access them without a referral. Like I said since the 1st lockdown lots of other free food places have now sprung up but Most of those that rely on donations from the public have a referral system as to protect the food stock and the generosity of the people who donate.well i used them regular during lockdown with no referal at all and know people who are still using them with no referal, there website may say that but there not turning anyone away, i imagine i will be needing it again myself in the nxt month or so seems as im using all my cash on electric as stil not got my 66quid for my key meter that was supposed to have arrived by the 17th but still no sign of it I know you say that you don't vote because politics doesn't effect you. (And you've every right not to vote). But it would appear that it has effected you, among all the other people who have been forced to use fold banks. Unless I mixed you up with someone else. In which case. Ignore." By that statement you are suggesting food banks are a political consequence that people must suffer. | |||
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"I was told a referral letter from someone. People on drugs? How would they know the use drugs? Overweight? No banquets dished out, it's basic food stuffs. Besides, some are overweight from eating cheap poor quality food.referral letter used to be the case these days they will help anyone who turns up That's actually not true. Almost all food almost all food banks require a referral. There are some set up where literally anybody can turn up they are normally called community pantries/fridges. we have three foodbanks in my town and they are a jist turn up and we will help, they have been that way round here since the first lockdown, before that either the council or the yob centre had to refer you but not no more A quick look and the 3 that came up in your area of Boreham wood all state you need a referral. 2 of them are trust or trust and you cannot access them without a referral. Like I said since the 1st lockdown lots of other free food places have now sprung up but Most of those that rely on donations from the public have a referral system as to protect the food stock and the generosity of the people who donate.well i used them regular during lockdown with no referal at all and know people who are still using them with no referal, there website may say that but there not turning anyone away, i imagine i will be needing it again myself in the nxt month or so seems as im using all my cash on electric as stil not got my 66quid for my key meter that was supposed to have arrived by the 17th but still no sign of it I know you say that you don't vote because politics doesn't effect you. (And you've every right not to vote). But it would appear that it has effected you, among all the other people who have been forced to use fold banks. Unless I mixed you up with someone else. In which case. Ignore." i used them during furlough as i was not getting full wages dunno if that was because the tories were in charge as i pretty sure i would of still needed to use it if labour were in, same as now if the torys or labour are in charge my leccy would of stil gone up, but after living under two lots of labour goverments and two lots of tory goverments my life hasnt really got any better or any worse under either of them, one of the main reasons i dont vote, that and i also think ALL partys are full of shit to be honest with you, saw thornburry on news earlier saying how much the people of this country matter to her the same woan who was slagging people off for flying a geotge cross not so long ago, like i said ALL full of shit so they can gdt your vote, but hey i have no problem with those who take part just not for me, no doubt someone will be along to tell me its my duty to vote | |||
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"I was told a referral letter from someone. People on drugs? How would they know the use drugs? Overweight? No banquets dished out, it's basic food stuffs. Besides, some are overweight from eating cheap poor quality food.referral letter used to be the case these days they will help anyone who turns up That's actually not true. Almost all food almost all food banks require a referral. There are some set up where literally anybody can turn up they are normally called community pantries/fridges. we have three foodbanks in my town and they are a jist turn up and we will help, they have been that way round here since the first lockdown, before that either the council or the yob centre had to refer you but not no more A quick look and the 3 that came up in your area of Boreham wood all state you need a referral. 2 of them are trust or trust and you cannot access them without a referral. Like I said since the 1st lockdown lots of other free food places have now sprung up but Most of those that rely on donations from the public have a referral system as to protect the food stock and the generosity of the people who donate.well i used them regular during lockdown with no referal at all and know people who are still using them with no referal, there website may say that but there not turning anyone away, i imagine i will be needing it again myself in the nxt month or so seems as im using all my cash on electric as stil not got my 66quid for my key meter that was supposed to have arrived by the 17th but still no sign of it I know you say that you don't vote because politics doesn't effect you. (And you've every right not to vote). But it would appear that it has effected you, among all the other people who have been forced to use fold banks. Unless I mixed you up with someone else. In which case. Ignore.i used them during furlough as i was not getting full wages dunno if that was because the tories were in charge as i pretty sure i would of still needed to use it if labour were in, same as now if the torys or labour are in charge my leccy would of stil gone up, but after living under two lots of labour goverments and two lots of tory goverments my life hasnt really got any better or any worse under either of them, one of the main reasons i dont vote, that and i also think ALL partys are full of shit to be honest with you, saw thornburry on news earlier saying how much the people of this country matter to her the same woan who was slagging people off for flying a geotge cross not so long ago, like i said ALL full of shit so they can gdt your vote, but hey i have no problem with those who take part just not for me, no doubt someone will be along to tell me its my duty to vote" | |||
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"I was told a referral letter from someone. People on drugs? How would they know the use drugs? Overweight? No banquets dished out, it's basic food stuffs. Besides, some are overweight from eating cheap poor quality food.referral letter used to be the case these days they will help anyone who turns up That's actually not true. Almost all food almost all food banks require a referral. There are some set up where literally anybody can turn up they are normally called community pantries/fridges. we have three foodbanks in my town and they are a jist turn up and we will help, they have been that way round here since the first lockdown, before that either the council or the yob centre had to refer you but not no more A quick look and the 3 that came up in your area of Boreham wood all state you need a referral. 2 of them are trust or trust and you cannot access them without a referral. Like I said since the 1st lockdown lots of other free food places have now sprung up but Most of those that rely on donations from the public have a referral system as to protect the food stock and the generosity of the people who donate.well i used them regular during lockdown with no referal at all and know people who are still using them with no referal, there website may say that but there not turning anyone away, i imagine i will be needing it again myself in the nxt month or so seems as im using all my cash on electric as stil not got my 66quid for my key meter that was supposed to have arrived by the 17th but still no sign of it I know you say that you don't vote because politics doesn't effect you. (And you've every right not to vote). But it would appear that it has effected you, among all the other people who have been forced to use fold banks. Unless I mixed you up with someone else. In which case. Ignore. By that statement you are suggesting food banks are a political consequence that people must suffer." Well, yes. If the Tories hadn't have been crushing ordinary people through austerity for the past 12 years, the situation would likely be different. | |||
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"Nearly all foodbanks require referrals from medical professionals, schools or places of education etc. Restrictions? Are we to go back to the days of the deserving and undeserving poor? " Well, the current cabinet is staffed by Victorians, at least in part. Eg. JRM. It wouldn't surprise me. | |||
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"Nearly all foodbanks require referrals from medical professionals, schools or places of education etc. Restrictions? Are we to go back to the days of the deserving and undeserving poor? " I think we've been there for some time. | |||
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"Nearly all foodbanks require referrals from medical professionals, schools or places of education etc. Restrictions? Are we to go back to the days of the deserving and undeserving poor? " Referrals can also come via Social Care and similar organisations. However, I know a few food banks that say you need a referral, but rarely turn anyone away. To be fair, this is usually when the family have had their allowed number of visits, but as they are known to be genuine the food bank allows them to keep returning. | |||
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"Nearly all foodbanks require referrals from medical professionals, schools or places of education etc. Restrictions? Are we to go back to the days of the deserving and undeserving poor? Referrals can also come via Social Care and similar organisations. However, I know a few food banks that say you need a referral, but rarely turn anyone away. To be fair, this is usually when the family have had their allowed number of visits, but as they are known to be genuine the food bank allows them to keep returning." This is true. I have worked in a food bank and it was on a very rare occasion we would turn somebody away. Most food banks have restrictions on how many times a year you can use them and the reason for this is they are meant to be a crisis measure. One of the main reasons food banks require people to have a referral is so that they can ensure they are getting some form of support. | |||
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"I used to work as an advisor with my local CAB. We would give referrals to people who applied for them Only people with said referrals were allowed near the Food Banks I would spend 2 hours a day interviewing people who had applied for their referral before handing anything out. This was the main reason many didn’t come forward, they were too embarrassed by the “interrogation” The questions were primarily to find out what benefits they were entitled to that they were possibly not claiming which may or may not have alleviated the need for a food bank voucher " Then the process for the referral through the cab needs to be looked at because it is not the food banks that set the criteria it is the referral agents. | |||
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"Where I live there are no referral agents other than the CAB 99.9% of people who come forward will receive a referral but they will also be advised on any other sources of help they can apply for " A quick look at a food bank in Glasgow tells me there are lots of Referral agencies including Social services, children's centers, housing offices and charities. | |||
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"Who in turn refer people to their local CAB for a food bank referral slip " It's literally on the website that you can go to any of these referral agencies and be given a voucher people may well be advised to seek advice from the citizen's advice bureau to see what other help might be available that they are not being refused vouchers from these agencies. | |||
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"I am not about to argue with their online pages but majority within East/West Dunbartonshire, North/South Lanarkshire and Argyle & Bute areas go through CAB City of Glasgow is a different beast altogether " OK. | |||
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"Then the process for the referral through the cab needs to be looked at because it is not the food banks that set the criteria it is the referral agents. " | |||
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"Nearly all foodbanks require referrals from medical professionals, schools or places of education etc. Restrictions? Are we to go back to the days of the deserving and undeserving poor? " It all depends on what you label undeserving poor? Hence those that smoke, those are that are heavily obesity.... | |||
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"Nearly all foodbanks require referrals from medical professionals, schools or places of education etc. Restrictions? Are we to go back to the days of the deserving and undeserving poor? It all depends on what you label undeserving poor? Hence those that smoke, those are that are heavily obesity.... " Will there be a questionnaire on when you started smoking, if you could previously afford it before you needed a food bank, will there be less food in your bag if the person issuing the voucher thinks you need a bit of a diet? I don't like the idea of labelling people with less money. Who judges, who makes the decision about who is more deserving than someone else? | |||
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"Nearly all foodbanks require referrals from medical professionals, schools or places of education etc. Restrictions? Are we to go back to the days of the deserving and undeserving poor? It all depends on what you label undeserving poor? Hence those that smoke, those are that are heavily obesity.... " Can those that have a nice pair of trainers on have a food parcel? | |||
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"Nearly all foodbanks require referrals from medical professionals, schools or places of education etc. Restrictions? Are we to go back to the days of the deserving and undeserving poor? It all depends on what you label undeserving poor? Hence those that smoke, those are that are heavily obesity.... Will there be a questionnaire on when you started smoking, if you could previously afford it before you needed a food bank, will there be less food in your bag if the person issuing the voucher thinks you need a bit of a diet? I don't like the idea of labelling people with less money. Who judges, who makes the decision about who is more deserving than someone else?" Hence the question, think cigarettes are around 11 to 13 pound a packet, yet if those turning up for food parcels ... surely that packet of cigarettes money would be better at aldi or ldli getting the main ingredients of a staple diet? | |||
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"Nearly all foodbanks require referrals from medical professionals, schools or places of education etc. Restrictions? Are we to go back to the days of the deserving and undeserving poor? It all depends on what you label undeserving poor? Hence those that smoke, those are that are heavily obesity.... Will there be a questionnaire on when you started smoking, if you could previously afford it before you needed a food bank, will there be less food in your bag if the person issuing the voucher thinks you need a bit of a diet? I don't like the idea of labelling people with less money. Who judges, who makes the decision about who is more deserving than someone else? Hence the question, think cigarettes are around 11 to 13 pound a packet, yet if those turning up for food parcels ... surely that packet of cigarettes money would be better at aldi or ldli getting the main ingredients of a staple diet?" You clearly don't know how an addiction works and there will be plenty of people that go to food banks that could potentially use their money in a better way however it is not for any individual to judge them and say they can't eat. | |||
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"Nearly all foodbanks require referrals from medical professionals, schools or places of education etc. Restrictions? Are we to go back to the days of the deserving and undeserving poor? It all depends on what you label undeserving poor? Hence those that smoke, those are that are heavily obesity.... Will there be a questionnaire on when you started smoking, if you could previously afford it before you needed a food bank, will there be less food in your bag if the person issuing the voucher thinks you need a bit of a diet? I don't like the idea of labelling people with less money. Who judges, who makes the decision about who is more deserving than someone else? Hence the question, think cigarettes are around 11 to 13 pound a packet, yet if those turning up for food parcels ... surely that packet of cigarettes money would be better at aldi or ldli getting the main ingredients of a staple diet? You clearly don't know how an addiction works and there will be plenty of people that go to food banks that could potentially use their money in a better way however it is not for any individual to judge them and say they can't eat. " So you keep letting them smoke and nothing changes, they remain depended on the food bank and most likely social ... Great system  oh and by the way used to smoke 30 to 40 a day | |||
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"Nearly all foodbanks require referrals from medical professionals, schools or places of education etc. Restrictions? Are we to go back to the days of the deserving and undeserving poor? It all depends on what you label undeserving poor? Hence those that smoke, those are that are heavily obesity.... Will there be a questionnaire on when you started smoking, if you could previously afford it before you needed a food bank, will there be less food in your bag if the person issuing the voucher thinks you need a bit of a diet? I don't like the idea of labelling people with less money. Who judges, who makes the decision about who is more deserving than someone else? Hence the question, think cigarettes are around 11 to 13 pound a packet, yet if those turning up for food parcels ... surely that packet of cigarettes money would be better at aldi or ldli getting the main ingredients of a staple diet? You clearly don't know how an addiction works and there will be plenty of people that go to food banks that could potentially use their money in a better way however it is not for any individual to judge them and say they can't eat. So you keep letting them smoke and nothing changes, they remain depended on the food bank and most likely social ... Great system oh and by the way used to smoke 30 to 40 a day"Do you know how a food bank works because I'm getting the idea you don't. Almost all food banks that requireferrals only allow people to use the food bank between 3 and 5 times a year. Thankfully we live in a society where we don't judge whether somebody is deserving of food or not. | |||
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"Nearly all foodbanks require referrals from medical professionals, schools or places of education etc. Restrictions? Are we to go back to the days of the deserving and undeserving poor? It all depends on what you label undeserving poor? Hence those that smoke, those are that are heavily obesity.... Will there be a questionnaire on when you started smoking, if you could previously afford it before you needed a food bank, will there be less food in your bag if the person issuing the voucher thinks you need a bit of a diet? I don't like the idea of labelling people with less money. Who judges, who makes the decision about who is more deserving than someone else? Hence the question, think cigarettes are around 11 to 13 pound a packet, yet if those turning up for food parcels ... surely that packet of cigarettes money would be better at aldi or ldli getting the main ingredients of a staple diet? You clearly don't know how an addiction works and there will be plenty of people that go to food banks that could potentially use their money in a better way however it is not for any individual to judge them and say they can't eat. So you keep letting them smoke and nothing changes, they remain depended on the food bank and most likely social ... Great system oh and by the way used to smoke 30 to 40 a day"What other things are people not allowed to have in your opinion in order to deserve a food bank parcel where they get very basic items? | |||
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"Nearly all foodbanks require referrals from medical professionals, schools or places of education etc. Restrictions? Are we to go back to the days of the deserving and undeserving poor? It all depends on what you label undeserving poor? Hence those that smoke, those are that are heavily obesity.... Will there be a questionnaire on when you started smoking, if you could previously afford it before you needed a food bank, will there be less food in your bag if the person issuing the voucher thinks you need a bit of a diet? I don't like the idea of labelling people with less money. Who judges, who makes the decision about who is more deserving than someone else? Hence the question, think cigarettes are around 11 to 13 pound a packet, yet if those turning up for food parcels ... surely that packet of cigarettes money would be better at aldi or ldli getting the main ingredients of a staple diet? You clearly don't know how an addiction works and there will be plenty of people that go to food banks that could potentially use their money in a better way however it is not for any individual to judge them and say they can't eat. So you keep letting them smoke and nothing changes, they remain depended on the food bank and most likely social ... Great system oh and by the way used to smoke 30 to 40 a day
What other things are people not allowed to have in your opinion in order to deserve a food bank parcel where they get very basic items?"Always thought that was common sense, do I need it to live or not. | |||
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"Nearly all foodbanks require referrals from medical professionals, schools or places of education etc. Restrictions? Are we to go back to the days of the deserving and undeserving poor? It all depends on what you label undeserving poor? Hence those that smoke, those are that are heavily obesity.... Will there be a questionnaire on when you started smoking, if you could previously afford it before you needed a food bank, will there be less food in your bag if the person issuing the voucher thinks you need a bit of a diet? I don't like the idea of labelling people with less money. Who judges, who makes the decision about who is more deserving than someone else? Hence the question, think cigarettes are around 11 to 13 pound a packet, yet if those turning up for food parcels ... surely that packet of cigarettes money would be better at aldi or ldli getting the main ingredients of a staple diet? You clearly don't know how an addiction works and there will be plenty of people that go to food banks that could potentially use their money in a better way however it is not for any individual to judge them and say they can't eat. So you keep letting them smoke and nothing changes, they remain depended on the food bank and most likely social ... Great system oh and by the way used to smoke 30 to 40 a day
What other things are people not allowed to have in your opinion in order to deserve a food bank parcel where they get very basic items?
Always thought that was common sense, do I need it to live or not."So anybody who does anything but you don't like doesn't deserve food is that correct? | |||
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"Nearly all foodbanks require referrals from medical professionals, schools or places of education etc. Restrictions? Are we to go back to the days of the deserving and undeserving poor? It all depends on what you label undeserving poor? Hence those that smoke, those are that are heavily obesity.... Will there be a questionnaire on when you started smoking, if you could previously afford it before you needed a food bank, will there be less food in your bag if the person issuing the voucher thinks you need a bit of a diet? I don't like the idea of labelling people with less money. Who judges, who makes the decision about who is more deserving than someone else? Hence the question, think cigarettes are around 11 to 13 pound a packet, yet if those turning up for food parcels ... surely that packet of cigarettes money would be better at aldi or ldli getting the main ingredients of a staple diet? You clearly don't know how an addiction works and there will be plenty of people that go to food banks that could potentially use their money in a better way however it is not for any individual to judge them and say they can't eat. So you keep letting them smoke and nothing changes, they remain depended on the food bank and most likely social ... Great system oh and by the way used to smoke 30 to 40 a day
What other things are people not allowed to have in your opinion in order to deserve a food bank parcel where they get very basic items?
Always thought that was common sense, do I need it to live or not.
So anybody who does anything but you don't like doesn't deserve food is that correct? "Where did I say that? | |||
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"Nearly all foodbanks require referrals from medical professionals, schools or places of education etc. Restrictions? Are we to go back to the days of the deserving and undeserving poor? It all depends on what you label undeserving poor? Hence those that smoke, those are that are heavily obesity.... Will there be a questionnaire on when you started smoking, if you could previously afford it before you needed a food bank, will there be less food in your bag if the person issuing the voucher thinks you need a bit of a diet? I don't like the idea of labelling people with less money. Who judges, who makes the decision about who is more deserving than someone else? Hence the question, think cigarettes are around 11 to 13 pound a packet, yet if those turning up for food parcels ... surely that packet of cigarettes money would be better at aldi or ldli getting the main ingredients of a staple diet? You clearly don't know how an addiction works and there will be plenty of people that go to food banks that could potentially use their money in a better way however it is not for any individual to judge them and say they can't eat. So you keep letting them smoke and nothing changes, they remain depended on the food bank and most likely social ... Great system oh and by the way used to smoke 30 to 40 a day
What other things are people not allowed to have in your opinion in order to deserve a food bank parcel where they get very basic items?
Always thought that was common sense, do I need it to live or not.
So anybody who does anything but you don't like doesn't deserve food is that correct?
Where did I say that?"You have made it clear you don't think people that smoke or are very overweight should be given food parcels And that these people should make better choices so I will ask you again and see if you will answer what other things are people not allowed in your opinion. | |||
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"Nearly all foodbanks require referrals from medical professionals, schools or places of education etc. Restrictions? Are we to go back to the days of the deserving and undeserving poor? It all depends on what you label undeserving poor? Hence those that smoke, those are that are heavily obesity.... Will there be a questionnaire on when you started smoking, if you could previously afford it before you needed a food bank, will there be less food in your bag if the person issuing the voucher thinks you need a bit of a diet? I don't like the idea of labelling people with less money. Who judges, who makes the decision about who is more deserving than someone else? Hence the question, think cigarettes are around 11 to 13 pound a packet, yet if those turning up for food parcels ... surely that packet of cigarettes money would be better at aldi or ldli getting the main ingredients of a staple diet?" I think there's a case for encouraging people to stop smoking for sure but I don't think it's appropriate at the point of using a food bank. "Here's your food, you can have it this time but unless you can prove you've stopped smoking, lost weight or haven't bought new trainers in the last month you won't get more." Who would police it, who makes the decision about who deserves food and who doesn't, who delivers the news, what happens if a person has children do they get food and the parent doesn't, what happens if one partner smokes/is overweight and the other isn't? What gives one person the right to tell another they don't deserve food? | |||
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"Always thought that was common sense, do I need it to live or not." Maybe people should take all of their receipts, bank statements and a budget to the food bank? And probably prove that they have a good knowledge of portion sizes and are working out regularly so their bodies are in tip-top working order. And only wear second-hand clothes and cut their own hair. Oooh, and make sure they are not subscribed to too many streaming services. Or, you know, we could just be compassionate. | |||
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"Nearly all foodbanks require referrals from medical professionals, schools or places of education etc. Restrictions? Are we to go back to the days of the deserving and undeserving poor? It all depends on what you label undeserving poor? Hence those that smoke, those are that are heavily obesity.... Will there be a questionnaire on when you started smoking, if you could previously afford it before you needed a food bank, will there be less food in your bag if the person issuing the voucher thinks you need a bit of a diet? I don't like the idea of labelling people with less money. Who judges, who makes the decision about who is more deserving than someone else? Hence the question, think cigarettes are around 11 to 13 pound a packet, yet if those turning up for food parcels ... surely that packet of cigarettes money would be better at aldi or ldli getting the main ingredients of a staple diet? I think there's a case for encouraging people to stop smoking for sure but I don't think it's appropriate at the point of using a food bank. "Here's your food, you can have it this time but unless you can prove you've stopped smoking, lost weight or haven't bought new trainers in the last month you won't get more." Who would police it, who makes the decision about who deserves food and who doesn't, who delivers the news, what happens if a person has children do they get food and the parent doesn't, what happens if one partner smokes/is overweight and the other isn't? What gives one person the right to tell another they don't deserve food? " How about being old fashioned and being responsible for your old actions ... do I spend 13 quid on a packet of cigarettes or spend it on feeding the kids? Such a tough choice  | |||
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"How about being old fashioned and being responsible for your old actions ... do I spend 13 quid on a packet of cigarettes or spend it on feeding the kids?" Exactly. That money is enough for at least 10 portions of healthy nutritious food. Several news sources have stories of people "having to live on microwave ready meals" because they can't afford to run their oven. As these ready meals are more expensive and less healthy than cooking from scratch, even taking into account power usage, the people doing that shouldn't get any sympathy. Maybe they are candidates for the Darwin Awards? | |||
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"Nearly all foodbanks require referrals from medical professionals, schools or places of education etc. Restrictions? Are we to go back to the days of the deserving and undeserving poor? It all depends on what you label undeserving poor? Hence those that smoke, those are that are heavily obesity.... Will there be a questionnaire on when you started smoking, if you could previously afford it before you needed a food bank, will there be less food in your bag if the person issuing the voucher thinks you need a bit of a diet? I don't like the idea of labelling people with less money. Who judges, who makes the decision about who is more deserving than someone else? Hence the question, think cigarettes are around 11 to 13 pound a packet, yet if those turning up for food parcels ... surely that packet of cigarettes money would be better at aldi or ldli getting the main ingredients of a staple diet? I think there's a case for encouraging people to stop smoking for sure but I don't think it's appropriate at the point of using a food bank. "Here's your food, you can have it this time but unless you can prove you've stopped smoking, lost weight or haven't bought new trainers in the last month you won't get more." Who would police it, who makes the decision about who deserves food and who doesn't, who delivers the news, what happens if a person has children do they get food and the parent doesn't, what happens if one partner smokes/is overweight and the other isn't? What gives one person the right to tell another they don't deserve food? How about being old fashioned and being responsible for your old actions ... do I spend 13 quid on a packet of cigarettes or spend it on feeding the kids? Such a tough choice "Despite what you may think I do agree that in desperate times choices need to be made. However my point still stands, what gives me the right (or anybody for that matter) to tell someone they don't deserve food because their life choices differ from mine or for any reason at all. Our society doesn't withhold food from the vilest of criminals why would we ask volunteer food bank workers to withhold donated food from smokers or obese people? Because at base that's what it would boil down to. Yes, people should make better choices my life is littered with bad decisions. | |||
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"Where I live there are no referral agents other than the CAB 99.9% of people who come forward will receive a referral but they will also be advised on any other sources of help they can apply for " Exactly what I feared. As with anyhting some will abuse the system and the geniuney hard up will lose out Just look at the supermarket diabled bays the number of people that abuse them by having no badge or bowwing s anothers depriving the genuiely frail All systems are open to abuse and the abusers of the the systems deprive the genuine that in dire need of help | |||
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"Nearly all foodbanks require referrals from medical professionals, schools or places of education etc. Restrictions? Are we to go back to the days of the deserving and undeserving poor? It all depends on what you label undeserving poor? Hence those that smoke, those are that are heavily obesity.... Will there be a questionnaire on when you started smoking, if you could previously afford it before you needed a food bank, will there be less food in your bag if the person issuing the voucher thinks you need a bit of a diet? I don't like the idea of labelling people with less money. Who judges, who makes the decision about who is more deserving than someone else? Hence the question, think cigarettes are around 11 to 13 pound a packet, yet if those turning up for food parcels ... surely that packet of cigarettes money would be better at aldi or ldli getting the main ingredients of a staple diet? I think there's a case for encouraging people to stop smoking for sure but I don't think it's appropriate at the point of using a food bank. "Here's your food, you can have it this time but unless you can prove you've stopped smoking, lost weight or haven't bought new trainers in the last month you won't get more." Who would police it, who makes the decision about who deserves food and who doesn't, who delivers the news, what happens if a person has children do they get food and the parent doesn't, what happens if one partner smokes/is overweight and the other isn't? What gives one person the right to tell another they don't deserve food? How about being old fashioned and being responsible for your old actions ... do I spend 13 quid on a packet of cigarettes or spend it on feeding the kids? Such a tough choice "Here is an idea, how about those companies that make and sell addictive products, such as cigarettes, sugary drinks, high fat foods etc, face into their customers issues. Maybe they stop spending millions on advertising their addictive products and use that money to start supporting those addicted to them. | |||
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"The decisions rightly are taken by those with an understanding and need of the individuals involved, done so with empathy and compassion for people not in a good spot at the time.. I think that's preferable to a bunch of people sat in a fekin pub looking down on others by the sound of it.. There but for etc.." | |||
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"Do schools still do clases on how to mange life ie importance of working, spending money wisely, savings, costings, etc, etc, All of my experience on money management comes from my parents. " As in income and out goings? And what are the main priorities? I very much doubt it, after all we are now living in a era where everyone gets a government hand outs if you like it or not | |||
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"Do schools still do clases on how to mange life ie importance of working, spending money wisely, savings, costings, etc, etc, All of my experience on money management comes from my parents. As in income and out goings? And what are the main priorities? I very much doubt it, after all we are now living in a era where everyone gets a government hand outs if you like it or not" Which handouts do you get? | |||
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"Do schools still do clases on how to mange life ie importance of working, spending money wisely, savings, costings, etc, etc, All of my experience on money management comes from my parents. As in income and out goings? And what are the main priorities? I very much doubt it, after all we are now living in a era where everyone gets a government hand outs if you like it or not" Do you mean the haddouts that you pay for in taxes? | |||
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"Do schools still do clases on how to mange life ie importance of working, spending money wisely, savings, costings, etc, etc, All of my experience on money management comes from my parents. " Not really, in our experience. Our daughter had an hour or two of these lessons in year 11. We have been teaching her about it for years. She has had a bank account and debit card since she was 11. Her monthly allowance goes into that, and she has to buy all non-essentials herself. She then saves the rest of the money. From what I gather, this is not the usual way parents treat their kids but I don't know why more don't do it. | |||
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"So, what if the parent spends £13 on a pckt if cigs, do you let the kid starve?" If you can afford to buy fags and booze you have enough money to buy food if you change your priorities. Therefore you are not a candidate for the limited amount of charity handouts, which should go to those in desperate need through no fault of their own. | |||
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"So, what if the parent spends £13 on a pckt if cigs, do you let the kid starve? If you can afford to buy fags and booze you have enough money to buy food if you change your priorities. Therefore you are not a candidate for the limited amount of charity handouts, which should go to those in desperate need through no fault of their own." If a parent is an alcoholic, you would deny them support to feed their family? Life has many shades of grey. | |||
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"So, what if the parent spends £13 on a pckt if cigs, do you let the kid starve? If you can afford to buy fags and booze you have enough money to buy food if you change your priorities. Therefore you are not a candidate for the limited amount of charity handouts, which should go to those in desperate need through no fault of their own. If a parent is an alcoholic, you would deny them support to feed their family? Life has many shades of grey. " It does indeed. I know of a situation where a young person in further education hadn't eaten properly for several days because their alcoholic parents had spent the money on drink. They were able to access a voucher for the food bank which then lead on to further support thus enabling them to continue their course. Unless we help people the cycle will continue | |||
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"So, what if the parent spends £13 on a pckt if cigs, do you let the kid starve? If you can afford to buy fags and booze you have enough money to buy food if you change your priorities. Therefore you are not a candidate for the limited amount of charity handouts, which should go to those in desperate need through no fault of their own. If a parent is an alcoholic, you would deny them support to feed their family? Life has many shades of grey. It does indeed. I know of a situation where a young person in further education hadn't eaten properly for several days because their alcoholic parents had spent the money on drink. They were able to access a voucher for the food bank which then lead on to further support thus enabling them to continue their course. Unless we help people the cycle will continue" I did post this on a thread earlier, but I think it fits here too. I believe that businesses who manufacture and sell products that are proven to be addictive or harmful to health, should be taxed in a way that contributes to the welfare of their customers who need that support and have inevitably spent whatever money they have on those products. I'm not thinking about putting that money into the NHS, the money should be targeted towards the needs of those suffering, food, support accommodation etc. Make it a direct tax that is 100% used to support the people addicted to these products. Yes it would put up the costs of those products, but is that a bad thing? | |||
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"So, what if the parent spends £13 on a pckt if cigs, do you let the kid starve? If you can afford to buy fags and booze you have enough money to buy food if you change your priorities. Therefore you are not a candidate for the limited amount of charity handouts, which should go to those in desperate need through no fault of their own. If a parent is an alcoholic, you would deny them support to feed their family? Life has many shades of grey. It does indeed. I know of a situation where a young person in further education hadn't eaten properly for several days because their alcoholic parents had spent the money on drink. They were able to access a voucher for the food bank which then lead on to further support thus enabling them to continue their course. Unless we help people the cycle will continue I did post this on a thread earlier, but I think it fits here too. I believe that businesses who manufacture and sell products that are proven to be addictive or harmful to health, should be taxed in a way that contributes to the welfare of their customers who need that support and have inevitably spent whatever money they have on those products. I'm not thinking about putting that money into the NHS, the money should be targeted towards the needs of those suffering, food, support accommodation etc. Make it a direct tax that is 100% used to support the people addicted to these products. Yes it would put up the costs of those products, but is that a bad thing?" I'm on the fence with that. | |||
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"So, what if the parent spends £13 on a pckt if cigs, do you let the kid starve? If you can afford to buy fags and booze you have enough money to buy food if you change your priorities. Therefore you are not a candidate for the limited amount of charity handouts, which should go to those in desperate need through no fault of their own. If a parent is an alcoholic, you would deny them support to feed their family? Life has many shades of grey. It does indeed. I know of a situation where a young person in further education hadn't eaten properly for several days because their alcoholic parents had spent the money on drink. They were able to access a voucher for the food bank which then lead on to further support thus enabling them to continue their course. Unless we help people the cycle will continue I did post this on a thread earlier, but I think it fits here too. I believe that businesses who manufacture and sell products that are proven to be addictive or harmful to health, should be taxed in a way that contributes to the welfare of their customers who need that support and have inevitably spent whatever money they have on those products. I'm not thinking about putting that money into the NHS, the money should be targeted towards the needs of those suffering, food, support accommodation etc. Make it a direct tax that is 100% used to support the people addicted to these products. Yes it would put up the costs of those products, but is that a bad thing? I'm on the fence with that. " Sugar tax? | |||
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"Sugar tax?" Should definitely be brought in, along with a salt and fat tax. Should apply to all pre-prepared meals and food high in these ingredients. People need to learn to cook properly from scratch. Healthier, cheaper and doesn't really take any more time. | |||
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"So, what if the parent spends £13 on a pckt if cigs, do you let the kid starve? If you can afford to buy fags and booze you have enough money to buy food if you change your priorities. Therefore you are not a candidate for the limited amount of charity handouts, which should go to those in desperate need through no fault of their own. If a parent is an alcoholic, you would deny them support to feed their family? Life has many shades of grey. It does indeed. I know of a situation where a young person in further education hadn't eaten properly for several days because their alcoholic parents had spent the money on drink. They were able to access a voucher for the food bank which then lead on to further support thus enabling them to continue their course. Unless we help people the cycle will continue I did post this on a thread earlier, but I think it fits here too. I believe that businesses who manufacture and sell products that are proven to be addictive or harmful to health, should be taxed in a way that contributes to the welfare of their customers who need that support and have inevitably spent whatever money they have on those products. I'm not thinking about putting that money into the NHS, the money should be targeted towards the needs of those suffering, food, support accommodation etc. Make it a direct tax that is 100% used to support the people addicted to these products. Yes it would put up the costs of those products, but is that a bad thing? I'm on the fence with that. Sugar tax? " I resent paying more for something because other people use too much of it. Hence I'm conflicted | |||
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