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"Russia has threatened to turn off gas supplies to Europe this winter in retaliation over its support for Ukraine." No it hasn't. Russia has turned off the taps, but it keeps claiming that there are maintenance issues that prevent the supply of gas. They wouldn't threaten to turn the supply off, as that would be an act of war, and they don't want to give Europe an excuse to join the conflict. "Moscow has already been accused of sabotaging the Nord Stream pipelines with "pig" drones packed with explosives, which suffered catastrophic damage earlier this month." This is the most stupid theory I've heard. You can't get a pig into a line unless there's gas flow, and as we all know, no gas is currently flowing. Besides, why would Russia destroy their own pipeline, the one thing that could convince Europe to back down? I realise that you're only copying what was printed in The Sun, but do try to exercise a little bit of judgement. | |||
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Whilst doffing ones cap to it for some great performances especially Robert Shaw's dialogue about the US ship in WW2 etc..
ET was better mind..
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"Here we go again..!! Denying the facts..." I'm not denying that there's a strong possibility of power cuts this winter. I'm not denying that the electricity companies and the government have plans in place. The plans have existed for ages, and they're being dusted off and updated now because there's a real risk they might be needed. What I am doing is criticising The Sun when they say that Russia is threatening to cut off gas supplies. That's not true. As a newspaper they should be more accurate with their words. Putin is clearly hinting that he'll keep the gas off all winter. But he hasn't explicitly stated it. You can't print that Russia is threatening Europe if you're pretending to be reporting news. I'm also saying that The Sun clearly don't know what a pig is. It's a device primarily intended for cleaning gas lines, removing water and rust flakes from the pipe. It's not powered, it's pushed along the pipe by the pressure of gas behind it. Since Nord Stream 1 didn't have any gas flow, there no possibility of getting a pig to the middle of it. Also, calling it a "pig drone" is just being sensationalist. So, no facts denied, just shoddy journalism pointed out. | |||
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" So, no facts denied, just shoddy journalism pointed out." The only "facts" I see are that scaremongering and sensationalised bullshit is being spread as "news" So what IF the power's off for 3 hours ? People adapt quickly and get on with their lives The only people I see suggesting there's panic buying are the people trying to flog stuff and online media trying to con people with click bait garbage. | |||
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"So what IF the power's off for 3 hours ?" I did hear someone saying that the power would be turned off between 4pm and 7pm, to cover the evening cooking slot. That would have been a major annoyance. The plans that have been published see areas cut off for 3 hours during the day. Since I'm out at work then, I won't even notice that it's happened. | |||
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"So what IF the power's off for 3 hours ? I did hear someone saying that the power would be turned off between 4pm and 7pm, to cover the evening cooking slot. That would have been a major annoyance. The plans that have been published see areas cut off for 3 hours during the day. Since I'm out at work then, I won't even notice that it's happened." Annoying ? Yes Life threatening ? No Scaremongering ? Yes | |||
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"So what IF the power's off for 3 hours ? I did hear someone saying that the power would be turned off between 4pm and 7pm, to cover the evening cooking slot. That would have been a major annoyance. The plans that have been published see areas cut off for 3 hours during the day. Since I'm out at work then, I won't even notice that it's happened. Annoying ? Yes Life threatening ? No Scaremongering ? Yes" The plan can be fund in the emergency code document, from what I can see it will be staggered over regions at different times of the week, dependent on severity. What will you be doing at work? I guess it is nothing that would need power? I think power outages will cause a lot of disruption, having to wear a mask in covid restrictions caused some people break down and lose their heads. 3 hours without the internet, without, without...... Minds blown, I can see it coming, not after the first one but by number 3 boom! https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/electricity-supply-emergency-code | |||
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"So what IF the power's off for 3 hours ? I did hear someone saying that the power would be turned off between 4pm and 7pm, to cover the evening cooking slot. That would have been a major annoyance. The plans that have been published see areas cut off for 3 hours during the day. Since I'm out at work then, I won't even notice that it's happened. Annoying ? Yes Life threatening ? No Scaremongering ? Yes The plan can be fund in the emergency code document, from what I can see it will be staggered over regions at different times of the week, dependent on severity. What will you be doing at work? I guess it is nothing that would need power? I think power outages will cause a lot of disruption, having to wear a mask in covid restrictions caused some people break down and lose their heads. 3 hours without the internet, without, without...... Minds blown, I can see it coming, not after the first one but by number 3 boom! https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/electricity-supply-emergency-code" Warning adult humour follows Ok then to ensure we don't lose 3 hours of YouTube conspiracy theories we'll all get solar panels, and in case the sun don't shine we'll get wind turbines, and in case it's not windy we'll get a generator, and in case there's no oil we'll build a steam engine to power the generator and burn the forests...or.mmmm Maybe put on a coat and go for a walk or have a nice nap for a few hours before dinner. Ok it's not funny and some of us are fortunate to have completely off grid alternative accommodation but don't worry, we have room for six to eight young slim single females.... Apply within. | |||
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"So what IF the power's off for 3 hours ? I did hear someone saying that the power would be turned off between 4pm and 7pm, to cover the evening cooking slot. That would have been a major annoyance. The plans that have been published see areas cut off for 3 hours during the day. Since I'm out at work then, I won't even notice that it's happened. Annoying ? Yes Life threatening ? No Scaremongering ? Yes The plan can be fund in the emergency code document, from what I can see it will be staggered over regions at different times of the week, dependent on severity. What will you be doing at work? I guess it is nothing that would need power? I think power outages will cause a lot of disruption, having to wear a mask in covid restrictions caused some people break down and lose their heads. 3 hours without the internet, without, without...... Minds blown, I can see it coming, not after the first one but by number 3 boom! https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/electricity-supply-emergency-code Warning adult humour follows Ok then to ensure we don't lose 3 hours of YouTube conspiracy theories we'll all get solar panels, and in case the sun don't shine we'll get wind turbines, and in case it's not windy we'll get a generator, and in case there's no oil we'll build a steam engine to power the generator and burn the forests...or.mmmm Maybe put on a coat and go for a walk or have a nice nap for a few hours before dinner. Ok it's not funny and some of us are fortunate to have completely off grid alternative accommodation but don't worry, we have room for six to eight young slim single females.... Apply within. " Armageddon if that internet can't be reached, there will be awkward moments when families will only have each others company, the realisation that their mobiles and laptops are rubbish if not connected to the internet. The upside, I won't see all the nonsense that will accompany any blackout, the conspiracies will run deep! The government is trying to stop us from knowing what is going on, they are pushing the button on the big reset and it keeps blowing a fuse. Oh I can't wait  | |||
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"Forewarned is forearmed. As even the Telegraph recently revealed that Project Fear underestimated the damage did to the UK - I'd rather prepare for worse than the liars on top tell us about." Buy a box of candles, they give light a little heat and if you don't need them there may be alternative uses (get the long fat ones lol) | |||
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"Forewarned is forearmed. As even the Telegraph recently revealed that Project Fear underestimated the damage did to the UK - I'd rather prepare for worse than the liars on top tell us about. Buy a box of candles, they give light a little heat and if you don't need them there may be alternative uses (get the long fat ones lol)" I've already made plans | |||
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"Forewarned is forearmed. As even the Telegraph recently revealed that Project Fear underestimated the damage did to the UK - I'd rather prepare for worse than the liars on top tell us about. Buy a box of candles, they give light a little heat and if you don't need them there may be alternative uses (get the long fat ones lol) I've already made plans " A king size box of c size batteries? Just kidding lol | |||
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"Forewarned is forearmed. As even the Telegraph recently revealed that Project Fear underestimated the damage did to the UK - I'd rather prepare for worse than the liars on top tell us about. Buy a box of candles, they give light a little heat and if you don't need them there may be alternative uses (get the long fat ones lol) I've already made plans A king size box of c size batteries? Just kidding lol" Wind up torch, blankets, tins, extra insulation for the windows. Paper and pen, old fashioned books | |||
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"The plans that have been published see areas cut off for 3 hours during the day. Since I'm out at work then, I won't even notice that it's happened." "What will you be doing at work? I guess it is nothing that would need power?" I work for a large company, that has its own generators to cover power outages. I realise that I'm quite lucky in that respect. | |||
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"LEFT IN THE DARK - You might want to get your heads around this before electricity starts being rotated. Cold, still - no wind evenings and days with overcast skies are highest risk. Plan for three-hour blackouts revealed in gov documents: Power in the UK is provided by a handful of suppliers who divide their distribution into 18 "load blocks", which work like postcodes. Each block is assigned a letter between A and U. Letters F, I and O are not used. If you're unsure which load block you belong to, get in touch with your electricity provider to find out. These blackouts will be based on where you live and how power is supplied to your home, which means your neighbours might not experience a blackout while you do. The first would see rolling blackouts three to four times a week, either at the start or the end of the week. Level two would see power cuts occur six times a week and level three will disrupt electricity flows to households for 27 hours a week. Level nine is the point at which homes face spending more time without power than with while the most feared scenario is a "total shutdown" of power supply indefinitely - (or ar least until Wind / Solar can provide enough baseline power to re-float the Grid). ------- Russia has threatened to turn off gas supplies to Europe this winter in retaliation over its support for Ukraine. Moscow has already been accused of sabotaging the Nord Stream pipelines with "pig" drones packed with explosives, which suffered catastrophic damage earlier this month. Though the UK does not rely on imported gas from Russia, it will be hit by a supply shortage in Europe, which is where it sources most of its gas and electricity. A Government spokesperson said: "The UK has a secure and diverse energy system. (Time government dropped the bullshit line - if we truly had a diverse and robust Energy system, you wouldn't be reading this). "But Britons are already preparing for the worst case scenario by stocking-up on portable generators and torches in addition to winter clothing, thermal underwear and candles, according to industry So how do they intend to switch the power off ? I understand that if we don't generate enough the grid will shut down the hole country. So at this point National Grid will have to switch parts of the network off but its hard to do it house by house.. " | |||
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"So what IF the power's off for 3 hours ? I did hear someone saying that the power would be turned off between 4pm and 7pm, to cover the evening cooking slot. That would have been a major annoyance. The plans that have been published see areas cut off for 3 hours during the day. Since I'm out at work then, I won't even notice that it's happened. Annoying ? Yes Life threatening ? No Scaremongering ? Yes" It's absolutely life threatening if you require electronic equipment to keep you alive. | |||
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"It is quite sobering when you step back and think how you would go about things without a power supply. Worse yet, imagine if you couldn't get food at your local supermarket. Things we all need to be ready for. Now back to your puppet show. "There is a bigger issue with Supermarkets, they don't have back up generators in nearly every store. Beyond 6 to 10 hours, what happens to refrigerated and frozen foods? I don't know how long they can be off before in-store and back-end food needs to be disposed of. | |||
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"So what IF the power's off for 3 hours ? I did hear someone saying that the power would be turned off between 4pm and 7pm, to cover the evening cooking slot. That would have been a major annoyance. The plans that have been published see areas cut off for 3 hours during the day. Since I'm out at work then, I won't even notice that it's happened. Annoying ? Yes Life threatening ? No Scaremongering ? Yes It's absolutely life threatening if you require electronic equipment to keep you alive. " I did put a post on Life Critical home equipment but as usual, the experts arrived and damned it as scaremongering. ------ UK power cut warning prompts fear for people using life-saving machines. https://www.rms-recruitment.co.uk/2022/10/uk-power-cut-warning-prompts-fear-for-people-using-life-saving-machines/ I've sourced a 3kw Inverter generator for a family friend with Oxygen generation equipment to keep that running. Then sourced a number of Portable Power Stations (2kwh to 3kwh batteries in a box) to others with other Critical equipment at home. I approached the Council a number of times in respect to Care Homes. This will be a tragedy if it does turn out that there are prolonged outages. Hypothermia in Care Homes that will have good Gas supply but no electricity to run boilers for heating to operate. A small generator could run the boiler without necessity for lights if not possible. I've spoken to 6 Care Homes and not a single one have a back up plan for heating or other effects of power failure. Out of these six, only one has come back for details on alternative ways to run a boiler. It looks the an EV will be used as simply a matter of running a cable from the Managers car through a window in the boiler room giving access to 60kwh. Is heat not also Life Critical? | |||
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"It is quite sobering when you step back and think how you would go about things without a power supply. Worse yet, imagine if you couldn't get food at your local supermarket. Things we all need to be ready for. Now back to your puppet show.
There is a bigger issue with Supermarkets, they don't have back up generators in nearly every store.
Beyond 6 to 10 hours, what happens to refrigerated and frozen foods?
I don't know how long they can be off before in-store and back-end food needs to be disposed of."If there's mass food wastage, that could lead to significant knock on effects | |||
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"It is quite sobering when you step back and think how you would go about things without a power supply. Worse yet, imagine if you couldn't get food at your local supermarket. Things we all need to be ready for. Now back to your puppet show.
There is a bigger issue with Supermarkets, they don't have back up generators in nearly every store.
Beyond 6 to 10 hours, what happens to refrigerated and frozen foods?
I don't know how long they can be off before in-store and back-end food needs to be disposed of.
If there's mass food wastage, that could lead to significant knock on effects "Two Turkeys and two Gammon joints already in the garage freezer here. | |||
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"So what IF the power's off for 3 hours ? I did hear someone saying that the power would be turned off between 4pm and 7pm, to cover the evening cooking slot. That would have been a major annoyance. The plans that have been published see areas cut off for 3 hours during the day. Since I'm out at work then, I won't even notice that it's happened. Annoying ? Yes Life threatening ? No Scaremongering ? Yes It's absolutely life threatening if you require electronic equipment to keep you alive. I did put a post on Life Critical home equipment but as usual, the experts arrived and damned it as scaremongering. ------ UK power cut warning prompts fear for people using life-saving machines. https://www.rms-recruitment.co.uk/2022/10/uk-power-cut-warning-prompts-fear-for-people-using-life-saving-machines/ I've sourced a 3kw Inverter generator for a family friend with Oxygen generation equipment to keep that running. Then sourced a number of Portable Power Stations (2kwh to 3kwh batteries in a box) to others with other Critical equipment at home. I approached the Council a number of times in respect to Care Homes. This will be a tragedy if it does turn out that there are prolonged outages. Hypothermia in Care Homes that will have good Gas supply but no electricity to run boilers for heating to operate. A small generator could run the boiler without necessity for lights if not possible. I've spoken to 6 Care Homes and not a single one have a back up plan for heating or other effects of power failure. Out of these six, only one has come back for details on alternative ways to run a boiler. It looks the an EV will be used as simply a matter of running a cable from the Managers car through a window in the boiler room giving access to 60kwh. Is heat not also Life Critical?" This is complete scaremongering, there are no "life critical" devices in the UK that are in home use and don't have sufficient autonomy to last the duration of the required treatment or have a viable backup in case of failure (what happens if your friends oxygen generator has a failure ? Does he just die?) Of course It's a requirement of MHRA approval for medical devices , then again some people buy their own dodgy garbage labelled as medical equipment just as dodgy suppliers are flogging Chinese crap like inverters and heaters that aren't approved for use in the UK. Others are involved in the most ludicrous of home energy projects that are not only dangerous, but will invalidate their home insurance. Prudent preparation is common sense, doomscrolling damages your health and in this case probably your wealth lining the pockets of those trying to peddle fear and sell overpriced garbage. No, losing the heating for a few hours isn't "life critical",ask your GP for advice | |||
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"So what IF the power's off for 3 hours ? I did hear someone saying that the power would be turned off between 4pm and 7pm, to cover the evening cooking slot. That would have been a major annoyance. The plans that have been published see areas cut off for 3 hours during the day. Since I'm out at work then, I won't even notice that it's happened. Annoying ? Yes Life threatening ? No Scaremongering ? Yes It's absolutely life threatening if you require electronic equipment to keep you alive. I did put a post on Life Critical home equipment but as usual, the experts arrived and damned it as scaremongering. ------ UK power cut warning prompts fear for people using life-saving machines. https://www.rms-recruitment.co.uk/2022/10/uk-power-cut-warning-prompts-fear-for-people-using-life-saving-machines/ I've sourced a 3kw Inverter generator for a family friend with Oxygen generation equipment to keep that running. Then sourced a number of Portable Power Stations (2kwh to 3kwh batteries in a box) to others with other Critical equipment at home. I approached the Council a number of times in respect to Care Homes. This will be a tragedy if it does turn out that there are prolonged outages. Hypothermia in Care Homes that will have good Gas supply but no electricity to run boilers for heating to operate. A small generator could run the boiler without necessity for lights if not possible. I've spoken to 6 Care Homes and not a single one have a back up plan for heating or other effects of power failure. Out of these six, only one has come back for details on alternative ways to run a boiler. It looks the an EV will be used as simply a matter of running a cable from the Managers car through a window in the boiler room giving access to 60kwh. Is heat not also Life Critical? This is complete scaremongering, there are no "life critical" devices in the UK that are in home use and don't have sufficient autonomy to last the duration of the required treatment or have a viable backup in case of failure (what happens if your friends oxygen generator has a failure ? Does he just die?) Of course It's a requirement of MHRA approval for medical devices , then again some people buy their own dodgy garbage labelled as medical equipment just as dodgy suppliers are flogging Chinese crap like inverters and heaters that aren't approved for use in the UK. Others are involved in the most ludicrous of home energy projects that are not only dangerous, but will invalidate their home insurance. Prudent preparation is common sense, doomscrolling damages your health and in this case probably your wealth lining the pockets of those trying to peddle fear and sell overpriced garbage. No, losing the heating for a few hours isn't "life critical",ask your GP for advice " I agree with this ref backups. Oxygen machines need power to keep them producing oxygen, but by default the person who needs that machine will also be given oxygen cylinders in case of an emergency or if they leave the house. | |||
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