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By *ayturners turn hay OP   Man
over a year ago

Wellingborugh

It looks like support for Labour is not as strong as some would like to think. However manners suggest that they should still be congratulated for achieving third place

The party was relegated to third place in a ward that was previously a Labour stronghold, with the Green party taking 25.8% of the votes. Overall turnout in North Evington, a majority-Asian area dominated by the textiles industry, was 45%.

“North Evington was one of the jewels in the crown in Leicester East with the majority that Labour had, but that has been turned around completely,” said Abdul Osman, a former lord mayor of the city, who spent 20 years as a Labour councillor before defecting to the Conservatives.

“The fact that there was a big upsurge in the Green vote, that must have been a protest again at the Labour party. The trend nationally is against the Conservative government, but you have to look at a local administration that hasn’t delivered.”

Some have attributed Labour’s loss to the fact its candidate, Rajul Tejura, was widely reported as supporting India’s Bharatiya Janata party (BJP) government, and a picture of her in front of a lifesize cutout of Narendra Modi, at an event she organised to celebrate his election victory in 2019, was shared widely on social media.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

Liz Truss will be ecstatic..

She can pretend she is not the least popular PM in living history at this point in holding office..

I mean what's bad about a 9% popularity rating and over 60% of Tory voters saying she is incompetent when there's much winning in places like Leicester..

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields


"It looks like support for Labour is not as strong as some would like to think. However manners suggest that they should still be congratulated for achieving third place

The party was relegated to third place in a ward that was previously a Labour stronghold, with the Green party taking 25.8% of the votes. Overall turnout in North Evington, a majority-Asian area dominated by the textiles industry, was 45%.

“North Evington was one of the jewels in the crown in Leicester East with the majority that Labour had, but that has been turned around completely,” said Abdul Osman, a former lord mayor of the city, who spent 20 years as a Labour councillor before defecting to the Conservatives.

“The fact that there was a big upsurge in the Green vote, that must have been a protest again at the Labour party. The trend nationally is against the Conservative government, but you have to look at a local administration that hasn’t delivered.”

Some have attributed Labour’s loss to the fact its candidate, Rajul Tejura, was widely reported as supporting India’s Bharatiya Janata party (BJP) government, and a picture of her in front of a lifesize cutout of Narendra Modi, at an event she organised to celebrate his election victory in 2019, was shared widely on social media.

"

Lol, I enjoy this new comedy style of really obscure weird shit.

Especially

"Some have attributed Labour’s loss to the fact its candidate, Rajul Tejura, was widely reported as supporting India’s Bharatiya Janata party (BJP) government"

Absolutely amazing!

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"It looks like support for Labour is not as strong as some would like to think. However manners suggest that they should still be congratulated for achieving third place

The party was relegated to third place in a ward that was previously a Labour stronghold, with the Green party taking 25.8% of the votes. Overall turnout in North Evington, a majority-Asian area dominated by the textiles industry, was 45%.

“North Evington was one of the jewels in the crown in Leicester East with the majority that Labour had, but that has been turned around completely,” said Abdul Osman, a former lord mayor of the city, who spent 20 years as a Labour councillor before defecting to the Conservatives.

“The fact that there was a big upsurge in the Green vote, that must have been a protest again at the Labour party. The trend nationally is against the Conservative government, but you have to look at a local administration that hasn’t delivered.”

Some have attributed Labour’s loss to the fact its candidate, Rajul Tejura, was widely reported as supporting India’s Bharatiya Janata party (BJP) government, and a picture of her in front of a lifesize cutout of Narendra Modi, at an event she organised to celebrate his election victory in 2019, was shared widely on social media.

"

Lifted straight out of a newspaper…

there are certain specific issues in Leicester at the moment with violent acts within the South Asian community to the point where it looks like it’s also being aggravated by people outside, there have been arrests of people in Birmingham, Nottingham and derby in relation to stuff in Leicester

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

Oh Pat if someone had posted that about a single Tory party loss, you’d have said something along the lines of...

“Blah blah blah waffle waffle piffle...need to be judged on results two years from now in a general election...piffle waffle blah”

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Oh Pat if someone had posted that about a single Tory party loss, you’d have said something along the lines of...

“Blah blah blah waffle waffle piffle...need to be judged on results two years from now in a general election...piffle waffle blah”"

I reckon pat just lifted it thinking it would prove a point without actually knowing the context…. The last paragraph really should have given him a red flag to do some more reading as to why that might be important for context…

But pats never coming back to this thread….

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields


"Oh Pat if someone had posted that about a single Tory party loss, you’d have said something along the lines of...

“Blah blah blah waffle waffle piffle...need to be judged on results two years from now in a general election...piffle waffle blah”

I reckon pat just lifted it thinking it would prove a point without actually knowing the context…. The last paragraph really should have given him a red flag to do some more reading as to why that might be important for context…

But pats never coming back to this thread…. "

The last paragraph was my favourite. Properly funny.

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

Liz Truss in the words of her own cabinet and MP’s today:

‘She’s f***ed the country’

‘Worse than Corbyn’

‘Our country is burning’

‘S***show’

‘So wooden getting rid of her wouldn’t be regicide, it would be deforestation’

‘Fantasy economics’

And finally: ‘She’s had it’.

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By *ustintime69Man
over a year ago

Bristol

Oh dear Pat

You are evidently not aware of the internecine battles going on in Leicester over the past few weeks and how religious factionalism is affecting the local community but then I guess that would be asking a bit much of you to do a bit of in depth research

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Oh dear Pat

You are evidently not aware of the internecine battles going on in Leicester over the past few weeks and how religious factionalism is affecting the local community but then I guess that would be asking a bit much of you to do a bit of in depth research "

I don’t think it’s worth your while asking pat why someone openly supporting Hindu nationalists in a multicultural primarily asian council ward might be just a bit problematic for some people…

But heck… brexit… am I right pat???

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By *ayturners turn hay OP   Man
over a year ago

Wellingborugh


"Oh dear Pat

You are evidently not aware of the internecine battles going on in Leicester over the past few weeks and how religious factionalism is affecting the local community but then I guess that would be asking a bit much of you to do a bit of in depth research

I don’t think it’s worth your while asking pat why someone openly supporting Hindu nationalists in a multicultural primarily asian council ward might be just a bit problematic for some people…

But heck… brexit… am I right pat??? "

. Regardless of how you wish to present it , Labour were beaten into third place. If you fail at the very first stage of the selection process and are unable to select a candidate that is capable of winning you are hardly in a position to even contemplate running the country..

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton


"Oh dear Pat

You are evidently not aware of the internecine battles going on in Leicester over the past few weeks and how religious factionalism is affecting the local community but then I guess that would be asking a bit much of you to do a bit of in depth research

I don’t think it’s worth your while asking pat why someone openly supporting Hindu nationalists in a multicultural primarily asian council ward might be just a bit problematic for some people…

But heck… brexit… am I right pat??? . Regardless of how you wish to present it , Labour were beaten into third place. If you fail at the very first stage of the selection process and are unable to select a candidate that is capable of winning you are hardly in a position to even contemplate running the country.."

You’ve totally missed the point Pat. Don’t embarrass yourself by doubling down. Stick to the satire. You’re really good at that

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By *ayturners turn hay OP   Man
over a year ago

Wellingborugh


"Oh dear Pat

You are evidently not aware of the internecine battles going on in Leicester over the past few weeks and how religious factionalism is affecting the local community but then I guess that would be asking a bit much of you to do a bit of in depth research "

. I did not select the candidate. You probably need to address the issue to the local party and what their selection process was. They certainly did not select a vote winner.

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton


"Oh dear Pat

You are evidently not aware of the internecine battles going on in Leicester over the past few weeks and how religious factionalism is affecting the local community but then I guess that would be asking a bit much of you to do a bit of in depth research . I did not select the candidate. You probably need to address the issue to the local party and what their selection process was. They certainly did not select a vote winner. "

I think you’re going to need to apply that same logic to the Tory party leader. Truss is toast!

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By *ayturners turn hay OP   Man
over a year ago

Wellingborugh


"Oh dear Pat

You are evidently not aware of the internecine battles going on in Leicester over the past few weeks and how religious factionalism is affecting the local community but then I guess that would be asking a bit much of you to do a bit of in depth research . I did not select the candidate. You probably need to address the issue to the local party and what their selection process was. They certainly did not select a vote winner.

I think you’re going to need to apply that same logic to the Tory party leader. Truss is toast!"

. That is hardly a like for like comparison . In this case there was one seat up for election and Labour were beaten into thirs place . The next election is two years away so there is more than enough time to repeat the success of Boris Johnson. Kier Starmer does not appear to have any policies.

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton


"Oh dear Pat

You are evidently not aware of the internecine battles going on in Leicester over the past few weeks and how religious factionalism is affecting the local community but then I guess that would be asking a bit much of you to do a bit of in depth research . I did not select the candidate. You probably need to address the issue to the local party and what their selection process was. They certainly did not select a vote winner.

I think you’re going to need to apply that same logic to the Tory party leader. Truss is toast!. That is hardly a like for like comparison . In this case there was one seat up for election and Labour were beaten into thirs place . The next election is two years away so there is more than enough time to repeat the success of Boris Johnson. Kier Starmer does not appear to have any policies. "

There you go, back on form Pat. Question...after last few weeks do you honestly believe Truss is THE person to lead the Tories to General Election success at any point between now and two years time?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Oh dear Pat

You are evidently not aware of the internecine battles going on in Leicester over the past few weeks and how religious factionalism is affecting the local community but then I guess that would be asking a bit much of you to do a bit of in depth research . I did not select the candidate. You probably need to address the issue to the local party and what their selection process was. They certainly did not select a vote winner.

I think you’re going to need to apply that same logic to the Tory party leader. Truss is toast!. That is hardly a like for like comparison . In this case there was one seat up for election and Labour were beaten into thirs place . The next election is two years away so there is more than enough time to repeat the success of Boris Johnson. Kier Starmer does not appear to have any policies. "

Pat you need to pay attention..

Yes they need to firm up on specific policies and aims in time, but no opposition does that at this point in a parliamentary cycle which is not really a surprise you being unaware of..

Let's be honest he only has to say I/we wouldn't have made the total shambles of the economy in our first 38 days that truss has and that'll do..

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

Pat is like the scarlet pimpernel, he drops in, thinks he has let off a grenade (which is more like a duff sparkler) then vanishes to post some satire of varying qualities on other threads!

Will ask Pat again...

Question...after last few weeks do you honestly believe Truss is THE person to lead the Tories to General Election success at any point between now and two years time?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

Multiple profiles - multiple personalities maybe?

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By *ayturners turn hay OP   Man
over a year ago

Wellingborugh


"Pat is like the scarlet pimpernel, he drops in, thinks he has let off a grenade (which is more like a duff sparkler) then vanishes to post some satire of varying qualities on other threads!

Will ask Pat again...

Question...after last few weeks do you honestly believe Truss is THE person to lead the Tories to General Election success at any point between now and two years time?"

. Why not. Her performance will be assessed over a two year period and the electorate will vote accordingly. It looks like it is onwards and upwards. Liz is driven by success. Shell only employ exceptionally talented people.

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over a year ago

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By *ustintime69Man
over a year ago

Bristol

Ha ha ha….is this robot love? Mr Hay and Truss awkwardly getting it on?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Pat is like the scarlet pimpernel, he drops in, thinks he has let off a grenade (which is more like a duff sparkler) then vanishes to post some satire of varying qualities on other threads!

Will ask Pat again...

Question...after last few weeks do you honestly believe Truss is THE person to lead the Tories to General Election success at any point between now and two years time?. Why not. Her performance will be assessed over a two year period and the electorate will vote accordingly. It looks like it is onwards and upwards. Liz is driven by success. Shell only employ exceptionally talented people. "

She will be gone by Xmas, working for shell is irrelevant, why did she sack Kwartang

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ha ha ha….is this robot love? Mr Hay and Truss awkwardly getting it on? "

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton


"Pat is like the scarlet pimpernel, he drops in, thinks he has let off a grenade (which is more like a duff sparkler) then vanishes to post some satire of varying qualities on other threads!

Will ask Pat again...

Question...after last few weeks do you honestly believe Truss is THE person to lead the Tories to General Election success at any point between now and two years time?. Why not. Her performance will be assessed over a two year period and the electorate will vote accordingly. It looks like it is onwards and upwards. Liz is driven by success. Shell only employ exceptionally talented people. "

Thanks for answering Pat. I am pinning this and will remind you of you when she is gone.

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

Hey Pat apparently up to 100 Tory MPs have written to Graham Brady demanding no-confidence vote in Liz Truss, MPs believe!

So much winning!

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Pat is like the scarlet pimpernel, he drops in, thinks he has let off a grenade (which is more like a duff sparkler) then vanishes to post some satire of varying qualities on other threads!

Will ask Pat again...

Question...after last few weeks do you honestly believe Truss is THE person to lead the Tories to General Election success at any point between now and two years time?. Why not. Her performance will be assessed over a two year period and the electorate will vote accordingly. It looks like it is onwards and upwards. Liz is driven by success. Shell only employ exceptionally talented people. "

She's gone by Tuesday night pat, last week at PMQs she was an embarrassment as this country's PM..

Out of her depth..

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


"Pat is like the scarlet pimpernel, he drops in, thinks he has let off a grenade (which is more like a duff sparkler) then vanishes to post some satire of varying qualities on other threads!

Will ask Pat again...

Question...after last few weeks do you honestly believe Truss is THE person to lead the Tories to General Election success at any point between now and two years time?. Why not. Her performance will be assessed over a two year period and the electorate will vote accordingly. It looks like it is onwards and upwards. Liz is driven by success. Shell only employ exceptionally talented people.

She's gone by Tuesday night pat, last week at PMQs she was an embarrassment as this country's PM..

Out of her depth.."

Hope so

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By *ayturners turn hay OP   Man
over a year ago

Wellingborugh


"Pat is like the scarlet pimpernel, he drops in, thinks he has let off a grenade (which is more like a duff sparkler) then vanishes to post some satire of varying qualities on other threads!

Will ask Pat again...

Question...after last few weeks do you honestly believe Truss is THE person to lead the Tories to General Election success at any point between now and two years time?. Why not. Her performance will be assessed over a two year period and the electorate will vote accordingly. It looks like it is onwards and upwards. Liz is driven by success. Shell only employ exceptionally talented people.

She's gone by Tuesday night pat, last week at PMQs she was an embarrassment as this country's PM..

Out of her depth.."

. To others destined for great success. Let's check on Tuesday night.

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By *ayturners turn hay OP   Man
over a year ago

Wellingborugh


"Pat is like the scarlet pimpernel, he drops in, thinks he has let off a grenade (which is more like a duff sparkler) then vanishes to post some satire of varying qualities on other threads!

Will ask Pat again...

Question...after last few weeks do you honestly believe Truss is THE person to lead the Tories to General Election success at any point between now and two years time?. Why not. Her performance will be assessed over a two year period and the electorate will vote accordingly. It looks like it is onwards and upwards. Liz is driven by success. Shell only employ exceptionally talented people.

Thanks for answering Pat. I am pinning this and will remind you of you when she is gone."

. What happens will hardly make a pin of difference to my life. However I hope she remains in power to prove all the doubters wrong. Feel free to remind me when she is gone . You might have a very long wait. Jeremy Hunt will sail the skip threw the storm , then it is onwards and upwards.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Pat is like the scarlet pimpernel, he drops in, thinks he has let off a grenade (which is more like a duff sparkler) then vanishes to post some satire of varying qualities on other threads!

Will ask Pat again...

Question...after last few weeks do you honestly believe Truss is THE person to lead the Tories to General Election success at any point between now and two years time?. Why not. Her performance will be assessed over a two year period and the electorate will vote accordingly. It looks like it is onwards and upwards. Liz is driven by success. Shell only employ exceptionally talented people.

Thanks for answering Pat. I am pinning this and will remind you of you when she is gone.. What happens will hardly make a pin of difference to my life. However I hope she remains in power to prove all the doubters wrong. Feel free to remind me when she is gone . You might have a very long wait. Jeremy Hunt will sail the skip threw the storm , then it is onwards and upwards. "

Indeed it does resemble a skip..

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

In relation to your actual post, the very specific circumstances around the local council election has been addressed by multiple posters.

I think that Truss will stay as the failed Tory party can't be seen to lose yet another Prime Minister.

Hunt is in charge. There has been a soft coup. I wonder at what pace the other incompetents in Cabinet will be replaced?

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton


"Pat is like the scarlet pimpernel, he drops in, thinks he has let off a grenade (which is more like a duff sparkler) then vanishes to post some satire of varying qualities on other threads!

Will ask Pat again...

Question...after last few weeks do you honestly believe Truss is THE person to lead the Tories to General Election success at any point between now and two years time?. Why not. Her performance will be assessed over a two year period and the electorate will vote accordingly. It looks like it is onwards and upwards. Liz is driven by success. Shell only employ exceptionally talented people.

Thanks for answering Pat. I am pinning this and will remind you of you when she is gone.. What happens will hardly make a pin of difference to my life. However I hope she remains in power to prove all the doubters wrong. Feel free to remind me when she is gone . You might have a very long wait. Jeremy Hunt will sail the skip threw the storm , then it is onwards and upwards. "

Was that a slight shift in allegiance towards Hunt? You pinned your colours to the Truss Trimaran just as you did previously to the Boris Barge. That sunk as will she. Your convictions will continue to be challenged!

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By *alking HeadMan
over a year ago

Bolton

Op quoted “The fact that there was a big upsurge in the Green vote, that must have been a protest again at the Labour party. The trend nationally is against the Conservative government, but you have to look at a local administration that hasn’t delivered.”

Why the assumption that a green party vote is merely a protest vote? Many people, particularly younger voters are starting to see just what the two party system has done for the environment. The green vote is increasingly viable and is having greater influence. It wouldn't surprise me if we started to see a good 20-30% of the vote share going to the green party. It's naturally going to be younger people who might never have even voted before increasing the green vote. Are they being idealistic? Yes, so should we all be, otherwise you really are wasting a vote.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Pat is like the scarlet pimpernel, he drops in, thinks he has let off a grenade (which is more like a duff sparkler) then vanishes to post some satire of varying qualities on other threads!

Will ask Pat again...

Question...after last few weeks do you honestly believe Truss is THE person to lead the Tories to General Election success at any point between now and two years time?. Why not. Her performance will be assessed over a two year period and the electorate will vote accordingly. It looks like it is onwards and upwards. Liz is driven by success. Shell only employ exceptionally talented people.

Thanks for answering Pat. I am pinning this and will remind you of you when she is gone.. What happens will hardly make a pin of difference to my life. However I hope she remains in power to prove all the doubters wrong. Feel free to remind me when she is gone . You might have a very long wait. Jeremy Hunt will sail the skip threw the storm , then it is onwards and upwards.

Indeed it does resemble a skip..

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A burning skip of shit

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Pat is like the scarlet pimpernel, he drops in, thinks he has let off a grenade (which is more like a duff sparkler) then vanishes to post some satire of varying qualities on other threads!

Will ask Pat again...

Question...after last few weeks do you honestly believe Truss is THE person to lead the Tories to General Election success at any point between now and two years time?. Why not. Her performance will be assessed over a two year period and the electorate will vote accordingly. It looks like it is onwards and upwards. Liz is driven by success. Shell only employ exceptionally talented people.

Thanks for answering Pat. I am pinning this and will remind you of you when she is gone.. What happens will hardly make a pin of difference to my life. However I hope she remains in power to prove all the doubters wrong. Feel free to remind me when she is gone . You might have a very long wait. Jeremy Hunt will sail the skip threw the storm , then it is onwards and upwards. "

Why did she sack Kwartang?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It looks like support for Labour is not as strong as some would like to think. However manners suggest that they should still be congratulated for achieving third place

The party was relegated to third place in a ward that was previously a Labour stronghold, with the Green party taking 25.8% of the votes. Overall turnout in North Evington, a majority-Asian area dominated by the textiles industry, was 45%.

“North Evington was one of the jewels in the crown in Leicester East with the majority that Labour had, but that has been turned around completely,” said Abdul Osman, a former lord mayor of the city, who spent 20 years as a Labour councillor before defecting to the Conservatives.

“The fact that there was a big upsurge in the Green vote, that must have been a protest again at the Labour party. The trend nationally is against the Conservative government, but you have to look at a local administration that hasn’t delivered.”

Some have attributed Labour’s loss to the fact its candidate, Rajul Tejura, was widely reported as supporting India’s Bharatiya Janata party (BJP) government, and a picture of her in front of a lifesize cutout of Narendra Modi, at an event she organised to celebrate his election victory in 2019, was shared widely on social media.

"

Labour third in a council election, oh my god, the daily Mail will be milking this for all its worth. Liz must be dancing away thinking this is the turn around she needs to keep her in power! A seat in Leicester!

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By *ayturners turn hay OP   Man
over a year ago

Wellingborugh


"Pat is like the scarlet pimpernel, he drops in, thinks he has let off a grenade (which is more like a duff sparkler) then vanishes to post some satire of varying qualities on other threads!

Will ask Pat again...

Question...after last few weeks do you honestly believe Truss is THE person to lead the Tories to General Election success at any point between now and two years time?. Why not. Her performance will be assessed over a two year period and the electorate will vote accordingly. It looks like it is onwards and upwards. Liz is driven by success. Shell only employ exceptionally talented people.

Thanks for answering Pat. I am pinning this and will remind you of you when she is gone.. What happens will hardly make a pin of difference to my life. However I hope she remains in power to prove all the doubters wrong. Feel free to remind me when she is gone . You might have a very long wait. Jeremy Hunt will sail the skip threw the storm , then it is onwards and upwards.

Was that a slight shift in allegiance towards Hunt? You pinned your colours to the Truss Trimaran just as you did previously to the Boris Barge. That sunk as will she. Your convictions will continue to be challenged! "

.As far as I am aware the government is a team. Support should be given to any cabinet minster backing the government.

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London


"Pat is like the scarlet pimpernel, he drops in, thinks he has let off a grenade (which is more like a duff sparkler) then vanishes to post some satire of varying qualities on other threads!

Will ask Pat again...

Question...after last few weeks do you honestly believe Truss is THE person to lead the Tories to General Election success at any point between now and two years time?. Why not. Her performance will be assessed over a two year period and the electorate will vote accordingly. It looks like it is onwards and upwards. Liz is driven by success. Shell only employ exceptionally talented people.

Thanks for answering Pat. I am pinning this and will remind you of you when she is gone.. What happens will hardly make a pin of difference to my life. However I hope she remains in power to prove all the doubters wrong. Feel free to remind me when she is gone . You might have a very long wait. Jeremy Hunt will sail the skip threw the storm , then it is onwards and upwards.

Was that a slight shift in allegiance towards Hunt? You pinned your colours to the Truss Trimaran just as you did previously to the Boris Barge. That sunk as will she. Your convictions will continue to be challenged! .As far as I am aware the government is a team. Support should be given to any cabinet minster backing the government. "

So do you support the Prime Minister's intention to close a trade deal with China and increase immigration or the Home Secretary's plan to do the opposite?

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton


"Pat is like the scarlet pimpernel, he drops in, thinks he has let off a grenade (which is more like a duff sparkler) then vanishes to post some satire of varying qualities on other threads!

Will ask Pat again...

Question...after last few weeks do you honestly believe Truss is THE person to lead the Tories to General Election success at any point between now and two years time?. Why not. Her performance will be assessed over a two year period and the electorate will vote accordingly. It looks like it is onwards and upwards. Liz is driven by success. Shell only employ exceptionally talented people.

Thanks for answering Pat. I am pinning this and will remind you of you when she is gone.. What happens will hardly make a pin of difference to my life. However I hope she remains in power to prove all the doubters wrong. Feel free to remind me when she is gone . You might have a very long wait. Jeremy Hunt will sail the skip threw the storm , then it is onwards and upwards.

Was that a slight shift in allegiance towards Hunt? You pinned your colours to the Truss Trimaran just as you did previously to the Boris Barge. That sunk as will she. Your convictions will continue to be challenged! .As far as I am aware the government is a team. Support should be given to any cabinet minster backing the government. "

Borrowed this from another thread...

“Pat will be devastated, he is on record on here calling Sunak a snake for ousting his hero, if this happens let’s see how he spins it”

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By *iman2100Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton


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Am intrigued now???

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton


"Pat is like the scarlet pimpernel, he drops in, thinks he has let off a grenade (which is more like a duff sparkler) then vanishes to post some satire of varying qualities on other threads!

Will ask Pat again...

Question...after last few weeks do you honestly believe Truss is THE person to lead the Tories to General Election success at any point between now and two years time?. Why not. Her performance will be assessed over a two year period and the electorate will vote accordingly. It looks like it is onwards and upwards. Liz is driven by success. Shell only employ exceptionally talented people.

Thanks for answering Pat. I am pinning this and will remind you of you when she is gone.. What happens will hardly make a pin of difference to my life. However I hope she remains in power to prove all the doubters wrong. Feel free to remind me when she is gone . You might have a very long wait. Jeremy Hunt will sail the skip threw the storm , then it is onwards and upwards.

Was that a slight shift in allegiance towards Hunt? You pinned your colours to the Truss Trimaran just as you did previously to the Boris Barge. That sunk as will she. Your convictions will continue to be challenged! .As far as I am aware the government is a team. Support should be given to any cabinet minster backing the government.

Borrowed this from another thread...

“Pat will be devastated, he is on record on here calling Sunak a snake for ousting his hero, if this happens let’s see how he spins it”"

And Pat, remember your unwavering support for Johnson. The jolly nice chap who has these in his CV...

Prorogation, Arcuri, Barnard Castle, free holidays, lobbying, Paterson, partygate, Lebedev, gold wallpaper, Pincher: every single one, a self-inflicted wound.

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By *ayturners turn hay OP   Man
over a year ago

Wellingborugh


"Pat is like the scarlet pimpernel, he drops in, thinks he has let off a grenade (which is more like a duff sparkler) then vanishes to post some satire of varying qualities on other threads!

Will ask Pat again...

Question...after last few weeks do you honestly believe Truss is THE person to lead the Tories to General Election success at any point between now and two years time?. Why not. Her performance will be assessed over a two year period and the electorate will vote accordingly. It looks like it is onwards and upwards. Liz is driven by success. Shell only employ exceptionally talented people.

Thanks for answering Pat. I am pinning this and will remind you of you when she is gone.. What happens will hardly make a pin of difference to my life. However I hope she remains in power to prove all the doubters wrong. Feel free to remind me when she is gone . You might have a very long wait. Jeremy Hunt will sail the skip threw the storm , then it is onwards and upwards.

Was that a slight shift in allegiance towards Hunt? You pinned your colours to the Truss Trimaran just as you did previously to the Boris Barge. That sunk as will she. Your convictions will continue to be challenged! .As far as I am aware the government is a team. Support should be given to any cabinet minster backing the government.

Borrowed this from another thread...

“Pat will be devastated, he is on record on here calling Sunak a snake for ousting his hero, if this happens let’s see how he spins it”

And Pat, remember your unwavering support for Johnson. The jolly nice chap who has these in his CV...

Prorogation, Arcuri, Barnard Castle, free holidays, lobbying, Paterson, partygate, Lebedev, gold wallpaper, Pincher: every single one, a self-inflicted wound.

"

. An 80 seat majority is probably a true reflection of the publics opinion of Boris Johnson. A man of conviction and a real winner. What more could you ask. ?

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By *ayturners turn hay OP   Man
over a year ago

Wellingborugh


"Pat is like the scarlet pimpernel, he drops in, thinks he has let off a grenade (which is more like a duff sparkler) then vanishes to post some satire of varying qualities on other threads!

Will ask Pat again...

Question...after last few weeks do you honestly believe Truss is THE person to lead the Tories to General Election success at any point between now and two years time?. Why not. Her performance will be assessed over a two year period and the electorate will vote accordingly. It looks like it is onwards and upwards. Liz is driven by success. Shell only employ exceptionally talented people.

Thanks for answering Pat. I am pinning this and will remind you of you when she is gone.. What happens will hardly make a pin of difference to my life. However I hope she remains in power to prove all the doubters wrong. Feel free to remind me when she is gone . You might have a very long wait. Jeremy Hunt will sail the skip threw the storm , then it is onwards and upwards.

Was that a slight shift in allegiance towards Hunt? You pinned your colours to the Truss Trimaran just as you did previously to the Boris Barge. That sunk as will she. Your convictions will continue to be challenged! "

. Neither ship sunk if you look at their achievements . Basic common sense suggests that support should be given to all members of cabinet. There is only one objective and that is to win the election in two years time . I am more than happy to support Jeremy Hunt. One of life's winners.

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton


"Pat is like the scarlet pimpernel, he drops in, thinks he has let off a grenade (which is more like a duff sparkler) then vanishes to post some satire of varying qualities on other threads!

Will ask Pat again...

Question...after last few weeks do you honestly believe Truss is THE person to lead the Tories to General Election success at any point between now and two years time?. Why not. Her performance will be assessed over a two year period and the electorate will vote accordingly. It looks like it is onwards and upwards. Liz is driven by success. Shell only employ exceptionally talented people.

Thanks for answering Pat. I am pinning this and will remind you of you when she is gone.. What happens will hardly make a pin of difference to my life. However I hope she remains in power to prove all the doubters wrong. Feel free to remind me when she is gone . You might have a very long wait. Jeremy Hunt will sail the skip threw the storm , then it is onwards and upwards.

Was that a slight shift in allegiance towards Hunt? You pinned your colours to the Truss Trimaran just as you did previously to the Boris Barge. That sunk as will she. Your convictions will continue to be challenged! .As far as I am aware the government is a team. Support should be given to any cabinet minster backing the government.

Borrowed this from another thread...

“Pat will be devastated, he is on record on here calling Sunak a snake for ousting his hero, if this happens let’s see how he spins it”

And Pat, remember your unwavering support for Johnson. The jolly nice chap who has these in his CV...

Prorogation, Arcuri, Barnard Castle, free holidays, lobbying, Paterson, partygate, Lebedev, gold wallpaper, Pincher: every single one, a self-inflicted wound.

. An 80 seat majority is probably a true reflection of the publics opinion of Boris Johnson. A man of conviction and a real winner. What more could you ask. ? "

No because the 80 seat majority preceded all the actions listed. That’s the point, he squandered that majority (which was actually won on basis of Brexit rather than pretty much any other policy).

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton


"Pat is like the scarlet pimpernel, he drops in, thinks he has let off a grenade (which is more like a duff sparkler) then vanishes to post some satire of varying qualities on other threads!

Will ask Pat again...

Question...after last few weeks do you honestly believe Truss is THE person to lead the Tories to General Election success at any point between now and two years time?. Why not. Her performance will be assessed over a two year period and the electorate will vote accordingly. It looks like it is onwards and upwards. Liz is driven by success. Shell only employ exceptionally talented people.

Thanks for answering Pat. I am pinning this and will remind you of you when she is gone.. What happens will hardly make a pin of difference to my life. However I hope she remains in power to prove all the doubters wrong. Feel free to remind me when she is gone . You might have a very long wait. Jeremy Hunt will sail the skip threw the storm , then it is onwards and upwards.

Was that a slight shift in allegiance towards Hunt? You pinned your colours to the Truss Trimaran just as you did previously to the Boris Barge. That sunk as will she. Your convictions will continue to be challenged! . Neither ship sunk if you look at their achievements . Basic common sense suggests that support should be given to all members of cabinet. There is only one objective and that is to win the election in two years time . I am more than happy to support Jeremy Hunt. One of life's winners. "

Is he one of life’s winners like Johnson and Truss. I think Hunt would probably prefer to NOT have your endorsement Pat as your record for political longevity isn’t good!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Pat is like the scarlet pimpernel, he drops in, thinks he has let off a grenade (which is more like a duff sparkler) then vanishes to post some satire of varying qualities on other threads!

Will ask Pat again...

Question...after last few weeks do you honestly believe Truss is THE person to lead the Tories to General Election success at any point between now and two years time?. Why not. Her performance will be assessed over a two year period and the electorate will vote accordingly. It looks like it is onwards and upwards. Liz is driven by success. Shell only employ exceptionally talented people.

Thanks for answering Pat. I am pinning this and will remind you of you when she is gone.. What happens will hardly make a pin of difference to my life. However I hope she remains in power to prove all the doubters wrong. Feel free to remind me when she is gone . You might have a very long wait. Jeremy Hunt will sail the skip threw the storm , then it is onwards and upwards.

Was that a slight shift in allegiance towards Hunt? You pinned your colours to the Truss Trimaran just as you did previously to the Boris Barge. That sunk as will she. Your convictions will continue to be challenged! . Neither ship sunk if you look at their achievements . Basic common sense suggests that support should be given to all members of cabinet. There is only one objective and that is to win the election in two years time . I am more than happy to support Jeremy Hunt. One of life's winners. "

What has he won? Will you reverse your opinion and support Sunak when he becomes PM

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Pat is like the scarlet pimpernel, he drops in, thinks he has let off a grenade (which is more like a duff sparkler) then vanishes to post some satire of varying qualities on other threads!

Will ask Pat again...

Question...after last few weeks do you honestly believe Truss is THE person to lead the Tories to General Election success at any point between now and two years time?. Why not. Her performance will be assessed over a two year period and the electorate will vote accordingly. It looks like it is onwards and upwards. Liz is driven by success. Shell only employ exceptionally talented people.

Thanks for answering Pat. I am pinning this and will remind you of you when she is gone.. What happens will hardly make a pin of difference to my life. However I hope she remains in power to prove all the doubters wrong. Feel free to remind me when she is gone . You might have a very long wait. Jeremy Hunt will sail the skip threw the storm , then it is onwards and upwards.

Was that a slight shift in allegiance towards Hunt? You pinned your colours to the Truss Trimaran just as you did previously to the Boris Barge. That sunk as will she. Your convictions will continue to be challenged! .As far as I am aware the government is a team. Support should be given to any cabinet minster backing the government.

Borrowed this from another thread...

“Pat will be devastated, he is on record on here calling Sunak a snake for ousting his hero, if this happens let’s see how he spins it”

And Pat, remember your unwavering support for Johnson. The jolly nice chap who has these in his CV...

Prorogation, Arcuri, Barnard Castle, free holidays, lobbying, Paterson, partygate, Lebedev, gold wallpaper, Pincher: every single one, a self-inflicted wound.

. An 80 seat majority is probably a true reflection of the publics opinion of Boris Johnson. A man of conviction and a real winner. What more could you ask. ? "

Where is he now?

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By *ayturners turn hay OP   Man
over a year ago

Wellingborugh


"Pat is like the scarlet pimpernel, he drops in, thinks he has let off a grenade (which is more like a duff sparkler) then vanishes to post some satire of varying qualities on other threads!

Will ask Pat again...

Question...after last few weeks do you honestly believe Truss is THE person to lead the Tories to General Election success at any point between now and two years time?. Why not. Her performance will be assessed over a two year period and the electorate will vote accordingly. It looks like it is onwards and upwards. Liz is driven by success. Shell only employ exceptionally talented people.

Thanks for answering Pat. I am pinning this and will remind you of you when she is gone.. What happens will hardly make a pin of difference to my life. However I hope she remains in power to prove all the doubters wrong. Feel free to remind me when she is gone . You might have a very long wait. Jeremy Hunt will sail the skip threw the storm , then it is onwards and upwards.

Was that a slight shift in allegiance towards Hunt? You pinned your colours to the Truss Trimaran just as you did previously to the Boris Barge. That sunk as will she. Your convictions will continue to be challenged! . Neither ship sunk if you look at their achievements . Basic common sense suggests that support should be given to all members of cabinet. There is only one objective and that is to win the election in two years time . I am more than happy to support Jeremy Hunt. One of life's winners.

Is he one of life’s winners like Johnson and Truss. I think Hunt would probably prefer to NOT have your endorsement Pat as your record for political longevity isn’t good!"

. Most people would regard being elected as a pm as an achievement very few people will achieve.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Pat is like the scarlet pimpernel, he drops in, thinks he has let off a grenade (which is more like a duff sparkler) then vanishes to post some satire of varying qualities on other threads!

Will ask Pat again...

Question...after last few weeks do you honestly believe Truss is THE person to lead the Tories to General Election success at any point between now and two years time?. Why not. Her performance will be assessed over a two year period and the electorate will vote accordingly. It looks like it is onwards and upwards. Liz is driven by success. Shell only employ exceptionally talented people.

Thanks for answering Pat. I am pinning this and will remind you of you when she is gone.. What happens will hardly make a pin of difference to my life. However I hope she remains in power to prove all the doubters wrong. Feel free to remind me when she is gone . You might have a very long wait. Jeremy Hunt will sail the skip threw the storm , then it is onwards and upwards.

Was that a slight shift in allegiance towards Hunt? You pinned your colours to the Truss Trimaran just as you did previously to the Boris Barge. That sunk as will she. Your convictions will continue to be challenged! . Neither ship sunk if you look at their achievements . Basic common sense suggests that support should be given to all members of cabinet. There is only one objective and that is to win the election in two years time . I am more than happy to support Jeremy Hunt. One of life's winners.

Is he one of life’s winners like Johnson and Truss. I think Hunt would probably prefer to NOT have your endorsement Pat as your record for political longevity isn’t good!. Most people would regard being elected as a pm as an achievement very few people will achieve. "

You must admire Tony Blair then, he was elected 3 times with far larger majorities than 80 seats

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By *ap d Agde HarbourMan
over a year ago

Cap d Agde in May 23 and September 23 Meals in the apartment , horse riding and boat trips

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Wrong profile again Pat

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton


"Pat is like the scarlet pimpernel, he drops in, thinks he has let off a grenade (which is more like a duff sparkler) then vanishes to post some satire of varying qualities on other threads!

Will ask Pat again...

Question...after last few weeks do you honestly believe Truss is THE person to lead the Tories to General Election success at any point between now and two years time?. Why not. Her performance will be assessed over a two year period and the electorate will vote accordingly. It looks like it is onwards and upwards. Liz is driven by success. Shell only employ exceptionally talented people.

Thanks for answering Pat. I am pinning this and will remind you of you when she is gone.. What happens will hardly make a pin of difference to my life. However I hope she remains in power to prove all the doubters wrong. Feel free to remind me when she is gone . You might have a very long wait. Jeremy Hunt will sail the skip threw the storm , then it is onwards and upwards.

Was that a slight shift in allegiance towards Hunt? You pinned your colours to the Truss Trimaran just as you did previously to the Boris Barge. That sunk as will she. Your convictions will continue to be challenged! . Neither ship sunk if you look at their achievements . Basic common sense suggests that support should be given to all members of cabinet. There is only one objective and that is to win the election in two years time . I am more than happy to support Jeremy Hunt. One of life's winners.

Is he one of life’s winners like Johnson and Truss. I think Hunt would probably prefer to NOT have your endorsement Pat as your record for political longevity isn’t good!. Most people would regard being elected as a pm as an achievement very few people will achieve. "

Johnson got elected by the public on a set of lies. Truss got “elected” by a tiny number of Tory members. Even Tory MPs didn’t want her!

Her only achievement is to trash the UK economy within a matter of weeks. Takes wuite some doing.

Truss is toast!

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By *ustintime69Man
over a year ago

Bristol


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Wrong profile again Pat "

Hilarious

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By *ustintime69Man
over a year ago

Bristol

Silly old Pat

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By *ustintime69Man
over a year ago

Bristol

Don’t know if it’s come up on any of the threads but Andrew Neil interviewed Jeremy Hunt and Hunt was talking about his track record in setting up three successful businesses at which point Neil reminded him that two of his businesses had failed and that he was only a junior partner in the successful one….great track record

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Don’t know if it’s come up on any of the threads but Andrew Neil interviewed Jeremy Hunt and Hunt was talking about his track record in setting up three successful businesses at which point Neil reminded him that two of his businesses had failed and that he was only a junior partner in the successful one….great track record "

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By *ayturners turn hay OP   Man
over a year ago

Wellingborugh


"Don’t know if it’s come up on any of the threads but Andrew Neil interviewed Jeremy Hunt and Hunt was talking about his track record in setting up three successful businesses at which point Neil reminded him that two of his businesses had failed and that he was only a junior partner in the successful one….great track record "
. Without knowing the reasons as to why a businness failed it would be impossible to pass judgement. Did anyone lose any money as a result. ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Don’t know if it’s come up on any of the threads but Andrew Neil interviewed Jeremy Hunt and Hunt was talking about his track record in setting up three successful businesses at which point Neil reminded him that two of his businesses had failed and that he was only a junior partner in the successful one….great track record . Without knowing the reasons as to why a businness failed it would be impossible to pass judgement. Did anyone lose any money as a result. ? "

Yes, thousands

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By *ayturners turn hay OP   Man
over a year ago

Wellingborugh


"Pat is like the scarlet pimpernel, he drops in, thinks he has let off a grenade (which is more like a duff sparkler) then vanishes to post some satire of varying qualities on other threads!

Will ask Pat again...

Question...after last few weeks do you honestly believe Truss is THE person to lead the Tories to General Election success at any point between now and two years time?. Why not. Her performance will be assessed over a two year period and the electorate will vote accordingly. It looks like it is onwards and upwards. Liz is driven by success. Shell only employ exceptionally talented people.

Thanks for answering Pat. I am pinning this and will remind you of you when she is gone.. What happens will hardly make a pin of difference to my life. However I hope she remains in power to prove all the doubters wrong. Feel free to remind me when she is gone . You might have a very long wait. Jeremy Hunt will sail the skip threw the storm , then it is onwards and upwards.

Was that a slight shift in allegiance towards Hunt? You pinned your colours to the Truss Trimaran just as you did previously to the Boris Barge. That sunk as will she. Your convictions will continue to be challenged! . Neither ship sunk if you look at their achievements . Basic common sense suggests that support should be given to all members of cabinet. There is only one objective and that is to win the election in two years time . I am more than happy to support Jeremy Hunt. One of life's winners.

Is he one of life’s winners like Johnson and Truss. I think Hunt would probably prefer to NOT have your endorsement Pat as your record for political longevity isn’t good!. Most people would regard being elected as a pm as an achievement very few people will achieve.

Johnson got elected by the public on a set of lies. Truss got “elected” by a tiny number of Tory members. Even Tory MPs didn’t want her!

Her only achievement is to trash the UK economy within a matter of weeks. Takes wuite some doing.

Truss is toast!"

. Regardless of how you wish to present it Johnson won an 80 seat majority. . That was a considerable achievement. You cannot judge Liz Truss by her short time in office. That is irrelevant. What matters is performance over a two year period. The electorate will decide in two years time . Liz and Jerry will prove to be a winning team. Let's see what the electorate think in two years time .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Pat is like the scarlet pimpernel, he drops in, thinks he has let off a grenade (which is more like a duff sparkler) then vanishes to post some satire of varying qualities on other threads!

Will ask Pat again...

Question...after last few weeks do you honestly believe Truss is THE person to lead the Tories to General Election success at any point between now and two years time?. Why not. Her performance will be assessed over a two year period and the electorate will vote accordingly. It looks like it is onwards and upwards. Liz is driven by success. Shell only employ exceptionally talented people.

Thanks for answering Pat. I am pinning this and will remind you of you when she is gone.. What happens will hardly make a pin of difference to my life. However I hope she remains in power to prove all the doubters wrong. Feel free to remind me when she is gone . You might have a very long wait. Jeremy Hunt will sail the skip threw the storm , then it is onwards and upwards.

Was that a slight shift in allegiance towards Hunt? You pinned your colours to the Truss Trimaran just as you did previously to the Boris Barge. That sunk as will she. Your convictions will continue to be challenged! . Neither ship sunk if you look at their achievements . Basic common sense suggests that support should be given to all members of cabinet. There is only one objective and that is to win the election in two years time . I am more than happy to support Jeremy Hunt. One of life's winners.

Is he one of life’s winners like Johnson and Truss. I think Hunt would probably prefer to NOT have your endorsement Pat as your record for political longevity isn’t good!. Most people would regard being elected as a pm as an achievement very few people will achieve.

Johnson got elected by the public on a set of lies. Truss got “elected” by a tiny number of Tory members. Even Tory MPs didn’t want her!

Her only achievement is to trash the UK economy within a matter of weeks. Takes wuite some doing.

Truss is toast!. Regardless of how you wish to present it Johnson won an 80 seat majority. . That was a considerable achievement. You cannot judge Liz Truss by her short time in office. That is irrelevant. What matters is performance over a two year period. The electorate will decide in two years time . Liz and Jerry will prove to be a winning team. Let's see what the electorate think in two years time . "

Truss will be gone by Xmas,

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton


"Pat is like the scarlet pimpernel, he drops in, thinks he has let off a grenade (which is more like a duff sparkler) then vanishes to post some satire of varying qualities on other threads!

Will ask Pat again...

Question...after last few weeks do you honestly believe Truss is THE person to lead the Tories to General Election success at any point between now and two years time?. Why not. Her performance will be assessed over a two year period and the electorate will vote accordingly. It looks like it is onwards and upwards. Liz is driven by success. Shell only employ exceptionally talented people.

Thanks for answering Pat. I am pinning this and will remind you of you when she is gone.. What happens will hardly make a pin of difference to my life. However I hope she remains in power to prove all the doubters wrong. Feel free to remind me when she is gone . You might have a very long wait. Jeremy Hunt will sail the skip threw the storm , then it is onwards and upwards.

Was that a slight shift in allegiance towards Hunt? You pinned your colours to the Truss Trimaran just as you did previously to the Boris Barge. That sunk as will she. Your convictions will continue to be challenged! . Neither ship sunk if you look at their achievements . Basic common sense suggests that support should be given to all members of cabinet. There is only one objective and that is to win the election in two years time . I am more than happy to support Jeremy Hunt. One of life's winners.

Is he one of life’s winners like Johnson and Truss. I think Hunt would probably prefer to NOT have your endorsement Pat as your record for political longevity isn’t good!. Most people would regard being elected as a pm as an achievement very few people will achieve.

Johnson got elected by the public on a set of lies. Truss got “elected” by a tiny number of Tory members. Even Tory MPs didn’t want her!

Her only achievement is to trash the UK economy within a matter of weeks. Takes wuite some doing.

Truss is toast!. Regardless of how you wish to present it Johnson won an 80 seat majority. . That was a considerable achievement. You cannot judge Liz Truss by her short time in office. That is irrelevant. What matters is performance over a two year period. The electorate will decide in two years time . Liz and Jerry will prove to be a winning team. Let's see what the electorate think in two years time . "

Twaddle. Absolute twaddle...or quality satire...Liz & Jerry...love it

If they can hold off on a general election for two years, it won’t be Truss at the helm!

And you certainly can judge on just a few weeks performance and it has been woeful. Absolutely woeful. Worst PM ever and that’s going some after Johnson who will forever now only be remembered as a number two

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Pat is like the scarlet pimpernel, he drops in, thinks he has let off a grenade (which is more like a duff sparkler) then vanishes to post some satire of varying qualities on other threads!

Will ask Pat again...

Question...after last few weeks do you honestly believe Truss is THE person to lead the Tories to General Election success at any point between now and two years time?. Why not. Her performance will be assessed over a two year period and the electorate will vote accordingly. It looks like it is onwards and upwards. Liz is driven by success. Shell only employ exceptionally talented people.

Thanks for answering Pat. I am pinning this and will remind you of you when she is gone.. What happens will hardly make a pin of difference to my life. However I hope she remains in power to prove all the doubters wrong. Feel free to remind me when she is gone . You might have a very long wait. Jeremy Hunt will sail the skip threw the storm , then it is onwards and upwards.

Was that a slight shift in allegiance towards Hunt? You pinned your colours to the Truss Trimaran just as you did previously to the Boris Barge. That sunk as will she. Your convictions will continue to be challenged! . Neither ship sunk if you look at their achievements . Basic common sense suggests that support should be given to all members of cabinet. There is only one objective and that is to win the election in two years time . I am more than happy to support Jeremy Hunt. One of life's winners.

Is he one of life’s winners like Johnson and Truss. I think Hunt would probably prefer to NOT have your endorsement Pat as your record for political longevity isn’t good!. Most people would regard being elected as a pm as an achievement very few people will achieve.

Johnson got elected by the public on a set of lies. Truss got “elected” by a tiny number of Tory members. Even Tory MPs didn’t want her!

Her only achievement is to trash the UK economy within a matter of weeks. Takes wuite some doing.

Truss is toast!. Regardless of how you wish to present it Johnson won an 80 seat majority. . That was a considerable achievement. You cannot judge Liz Truss by her short time in office. That is irrelevant. What matters is performance over a two year period. The electorate will decide in two years time . Liz and Jerry will prove to be a winning team. Let's see what the electorate think in two years time . "

She sank the economy pat, it's totally right to judge someone who should have known better who fucked up so badly and that mess has negatively affected millions of people..

Real world, real people, real detrimental costs to real decent people's finances..

So yes she has been found badly out if her depth and incompetent in her short time in office..

If a d*unk driver kills a family whilst they may b not have previous convictions it is the actions of them behind the wheel pissed at that time which is judged ..

To say she cannot be judged is bollocks and only an idiot would agree with such bollocks..

Your girl fucked up fella, own it..

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By *ayturners turn hay OP   Man
over a year ago

Wellingborugh


"Pat is like the scarlet pimpernel, he drops in, thinks he has let off a grenade (which is more like a duff sparkler) then vanishes to post some satire of varying qualities on other threads!

Will ask Pat again...

Question...after last few weeks do you honestly believe Truss is THE person to lead the Tories to General Election success at any point between now and two years time?. Why not. Her performance will be assessed over a two year period and the electorate will vote accordingly. It looks like it is onwards and upwards. Liz is driven by success. Shell only employ exceptionally talented people.

Thanks for answering Pat. I am pinning this and will remind you of you when she is gone.. What happens will hardly make a pin of difference to my life. However I hope she remains in power to prove all the doubters wrong. Feel free to remind me when she is gone . You might have a very long wait. Jeremy Hunt will sail the skip threw the storm , then it is onwards and upwards.

Was that a slight shift in allegiance towards Hunt? You pinned your colours to the Truss Trimaran just as you did previously to the Boris Barge. That sunk as will she. Your convictions will continue to be challenged! . Neither ship sunk if you look at their achievements . Basic common sense suggests that support should be given to all members of cabinet. There is only one objective and that is to win the election in two years time . I am more than happy to support Jeremy Hunt. One of life's winners.

Is he one of life’s winners like Johnson and Truss. I think Hunt would probably prefer to NOT have your endorsement Pat as your record for political longevity isn’t good!. Most people would regard being elected as a pm as an achievement very few people will achieve.

Johnson got elected by the public on a set of lies. Truss got “elected” by a tiny number of Tory members. Even Tory MPs didn’t want her!

Her only achievement is to trash the UK economy within a matter of weeks. Takes wuite some doing.

Truss is toast!. Regardless of how you wish to present it Johnson won an 80 seat majority. . That was a considerable achievement. You cannot judge Liz Truss by her short time in office. That is irrelevant. What matters is performance over a two year period. The electorate will decide in two years time . Liz and Jerry will prove to be a winning team. Let's see what the electorate think in two years time .

She sank the economy pat, it's totally right to judge someone who should have known better who fucked up so badly and that mess has negatively affected millions of people..

Real world, real people, real detrimental costs to real decent people's finances..

So yes she has been found badly out if her depth and incompetent in her short time in office..

If a d*unk driver kills a family whilst they may b not have previous convictions it is the actions of them behind the wheel pissed at that time which is judged ..

To say she cannot be judged is bollocks and only an idiot would agree with such bollocks..

Your girl fucked up fella, own it.."

I will pass judgement in two years time when there is a chance to do an objective review of her performance. A few minor hiccups are neither here or their . In two years time we can make an objective assessment which is what matters ( as opposed to the opinions of those who simply want her to fail)

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Pat is like the scarlet pimpernel, he drops in, thinks he has let off a grenade (which is more like a duff sparkler) then vanishes to post some satire of varying qualities on other threads!

Will ask Pat again...

Question...after last few weeks do you honestly believe Truss is THE person to lead the Tories to General Election success at any point between now and two years time?. Why not. Her performance will be assessed over a two year period and the electorate will vote accordingly. It looks like it is onwards and upwards. Liz is driven by success. Shell only employ exceptionally talented people.

Thanks for answering Pat. I am pinning this and will remind you of you when she is gone.. What happens will hardly make a pin of difference to my life. However I hope she remains in power to prove all the doubters wrong. Feel free to remind me when she is gone . You might have a very long wait. Jeremy Hunt will sail the skip threw the storm , then it is onwards and upwards.

Was that a slight shift in allegiance towards Hunt? You pinned your colours to the Truss Trimaran just as you did previously to the Boris Barge. That sunk as will she. Your convictions will continue to be challenged! . Neither ship sunk if you look at their achievements . Basic common sense suggests that support should be given to all members of cabinet. There is only one objective and that is to win the election in two years time . I am more than happy to support Jeremy Hunt. One of life's winners.

Is he one of life’s winners like Johnson and Truss. I think Hunt would probably prefer to NOT have your endorsement Pat as your record for political longevity isn’t good!. Most people would regard being elected as a pm as an achievement very few people will achieve.

Johnson got elected by the public on a set of lies. Truss got “elected” by a tiny number of Tory members. Even Tory MPs didn’t want her!

Her only achievement is to trash the UK economy within a matter of weeks. Takes wuite some doing.

Truss is toast!. Regardless of how you wish to present it Johnson won an 80 seat majority. . That was a considerable achievement. You cannot judge Liz Truss by her short time in office. That is irrelevant. What matters is performance over a two year period. The electorate will decide in two years time . Liz and Jerry will prove to be a winning team. Let's see what the electorate think in two years time .

She sank the economy pat, it's totally right to judge someone who should have known better who fucked up so badly and that mess has negatively affected millions of people..

Real world, real people, real detrimental costs to real decent people's finances..

So yes she has been found badly out if her depth and incompetent in her short time in office..

If a d*unk driver kills a family whilst they may b not have previous convictions it is the actions of them behind the wheel pissed at that time which is judged ..

To say she cannot be judged is bollocks and only an idiot would agree with such bollocks..

Your girl fucked up fella, own it.. I will pass judgement in two years time when there is a chance to do an objective review of her performance. A few minor hiccups are neither here or their . In two years time we can make an objective assessment which is what matters ( as opposed to the opinions of those who simply want her to fail) "

You sir are a fool..

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By *ayturners turn hay OP   Man
over a year ago

Wellingborugh


"Pat is like the scarlet pimpernel, he drops in, thinks he has let off a grenade (which is more like a duff sparkler) then vanishes to post some satire of varying qualities on other threads!

Will ask Pat again...

Question...after last few weeks do you honestly believe Truss is THE person to lead the Tories to General Election success at any point between now and two years time?. Why not. Her performance will be assessed over a two year period and the electorate will vote accordingly. It looks like it is onwards and upwards. Liz is driven by success. Shell only employ exceptionally talented people.

Thanks for answering Pat. I am pinning this and will remind you of you when she is gone.. What happens will hardly make a pin of difference to my life. However I hope she remains in power to prove all the doubters wrong. Feel free to remind me when she is gone . You might have a very long wait. Jeremy Hunt will sail the skip threw the storm , then it is onwards and upwards.

Was that a slight shift in allegiance towards Hunt? You pinned your colours to the Truss Trimaran just as you did previously to the Boris Barge. That sunk as will she. Your convictions will continue to be challenged! . Neither ship sunk if you look at their achievements . Basic common sense suggests that support should be given to all members of cabinet. There is only one objective and that is to win the election in two years time . I am more than happy to support Jeremy Hunt. One of life's winners.

Is he one of life’s winners like Johnson and Truss. I think Hunt would probably prefer to NOT have your endorsement Pat as your record for political longevity isn’t good!. Most people would regard being elected as a pm as an achievement very few people will achieve.

Johnson got elected by the public on a set of lies. Truss got “elected” by a tiny number of Tory members. Even Tory MPs didn’t want her!

Her only achievement is to trash the UK economy within a matter of weeks. Takes wuite some doing.

Truss is toast!. Regardless of how you wish to present it Johnson won an 80 seat majority. . That was a considerable achievement. You cannot judge Liz Truss by her short time in office. That is irrelevant. What matters is performance over a two year period. The electorate will decide in two years time . Liz and Jerry will prove to be a winning team. Let's see what the electorate think in two years time .

She sank the economy pat, it's totally right to judge someone who should have known better who fucked up so badly and that mess has negatively affected millions of people..

Real world, real people, real detrimental costs to real decent people's finances..

So yes she has been found badly out if her depth and incompetent in her short time in office..

If a d*unk driver kills a family whilst they may b not have previous convictions it is the actions of them behind the wheel pissed at that time which is judged ..

To say she cannot be judged is bollocks and only an idiot would agree with such bollocks..

Your girl fucked up fella, own it.. I will pass judgement in two years time when there is a chance to do an objective review of her performance. A few minor hiccups are neither here or their . In two years time we can make an objective assessment which is what matters ( as opposed to the opinions of those who simply want her to fail)

You sir are a fool.."

. More than happy to be considered a fool as long as we get the correct results . What matters to are votes cast on the day or an election , everything else is irrelevant. You cannot argue with what is achieved at the ballot box. It is a true reflection of public opinion .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Pat is like the scarlet pimpernel, he drops in, thinks he has let off a grenade (which is more like a duff sparkler) then vanishes to post some satire of varying qualities on other threads!

Will ask Pat again...

Question...after last few weeks do you honestly believe Truss is THE person to lead the Tories to General Election success at any point between now and two years time?. Why not. Her performance will be assessed over a two year period and the electorate will vote accordingly. It looks like it is onwards and upwards. Liz is driven by success. Shell only employ exceptionally talented people.

Thanks for answering Pat. I am pinning this and will remind you of you when she is gone.. What happens will hardly make a pin of difference to my life. However I hope she remains in power to prove all the doubters wrong. Feel free to remind me when she is gone . You might have a very long wait. Jeremy Hunt will sail the skip threw the storm , then it is onwards and upwards.

Was that a slight shift in allegiance towards Hunt? You pinned your colours to the Truss Trimaran just as you did previously to the Boris Barge. That sunk as will she. Your convictions will continue to be challenged! . Neither ship sunk if you look at their achievements . Basic common sense suggests that support should be given to all members of cabinet. There is only one objective and that is to win the election in two years time . I am more than happy to support Jeremy Hunt. One of life's winners.

Is he one of life’s winners like Johnson and Truss. I think Hunt would probably prefer to NOT have your endorsement Pat as your record for political longevity isn’t good!. Most people would regard being elected as a pm as an achievement very few people will achieve.

Johnson got elected by the public on a set of lies. Truss got “elected” by a tiny number of Tory members. Even Tory MPs didn’t want her!

Her only achievement is to trash the UK economy within a matter of weeks. Takes wuite some doing.

Truss is toast!. Regardless of how you wish to present it Johnson won an 80 seat majority. . That was a considerable achievement. You cannot judge Liz Truss by her short time in office. That is irrelevant. What matters is performance over a two year period. The electorate will decide in two years time . Liz and Jerry will prove to be a winning team. Let's see what the electorate think in two years time .

She sank the economy pat, it's totally right to judge someone who should have known better who fucked up so badly and that mess has negatively affected millions of people..

Real world, real people, real detrimental costs to real decent people's finances..

So yes she has been found badly out if her depth and incompetent in her short time in office..

If a d*unk driver kills a family whilst they may b not have previous convictions it is the actions of them behind the wheel pissed at that time which is judged ..

To say she cannot be judged is bollocks and only an idiot would agree with such bollocks..

Your girl fucked up fella, own it.. I will pass judgement in two years time when there is a chance to do an objective review of her performance. A few minor hiccups are neither here or their . In two years time we can make an objective assessment which is what matters ( as opposed to the opinions of those who simply want her to fail)

You sir are a fool... More than happy to be considered a fool as long as we get the correct results . What matters to are votes cast on the day or an election , everything else is irrelevant. You cannot argue with what is achieved at the ballot box. It is a true reflection of public opinion . "

Tis true Pat, the ballot box is the true measure of opinion, that being said, it seems that we don't need an election to make the tories U-Turn, we just need a lot of people to bitch about it then bye bye policy.

The system works!

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

Awwww bless! Pat still believes Truss will be PM in two years time!

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Pat is like the scarlet pimpernel, he drops in, thinks he has let off a grenade (which is more like a duff sparkler) then vanishes to post some satire of varying qualities on other threads!

Will ask Pat again...

Question...after last few weeks do you honestly believe Truss is THE person to lead the Tories to General Election success at any point between now and two years time?. Why not. Her performance will be assessed over a two year period and the electorate will vote accordingly. It looks like it is onwards and upwards. Liz is driven by success. Shell only employ exceptionally talented people.

Thanks for answering Pat. I am pinning this and will remind you of you when she is gone.. What happens will hardly make a pin of difference to my life. However I hope she remains in power to prove all the doubters wrong. Feel free to remind me when she is gone . You might have a very long wait. Jeremy Hunt will sail the skip threw the storm , then it is onwards and upwards.

Was that a slight shift in allegiance towards Hunt? You pinned your colours to the Truss Trimaran just as you did previously to the Boris Barge. That sunk as will she. Your convictions will continue to be challenged! . Neither ship sunk if you look at their achievements . Basic common sense suggests that support should be given to all members of cabinet. There is only one objective and that is to win the election in two years time . I am more than happy to support Jeremy Hunt. One of life's winners.

Is he one of life’s winners like Johnson and Truss. I think Hunt would probably prefer to NOT have your endorsement Pat as your record for political longevity isn’t good!. Most people would regard being elected as a pm as an achievement very few people will achieve.

Johnson got elected by the public on a set of lies. Truss got “elected” by a tiny number of Tory members. Even Tory MPs didn’t want her!

Her only achievement is to trash the UK economy within a matter of weeks. Takes wuite some doing.

Truss is toast!. Regardless of how you wish to present it Johnson won an 80 seat majority. . That was a considerable achievement. You cannot judge Liz Truss by her short time in office. That is irrelevant. What matters is performance over a two year period. The electorate will decide in two years time . Liz and Jerry will prove to be a winning team. Let's see what the electorate think in two years time .

She sank the economy pat, it's totally right to judge someone who should have known better who fucked up so badly and that mess has negatively affected millions of people..

Real world, real people, real detrimental costs to real decent people's finances..

So yes she has been found badly out if her depth and incompetent in her short time in office..

If a d*unk driver kills a family whilst they may b not have previous convictions it is the actions of them behind the wheel pissed at that time which is judged ..

To say she cannot be judged is bollocks and only an idiot would agree with such bollocks..

Your girl fucked up fella, own it.. I will pass judgement in two years time when there is a chance to do an objective review of her performance. A few minor hiccups are neither here or their . In two years time we can make an objective assessment which is what matters ( as opposed to the opinions of those who simply want her to fail)

You sir are a fool... More than happy to be considered a fool as long as we get the correct results . What matters to are votes cast on the day or an election , everything else is irrelevant. You cannot argue with what is achieved at the ballot box. It is a true reflection of public opinion . "

We?

You voted labour before, you don't have any allegiance only for yourself which is fine but don't give it that we nonsense..

Remember she thinks your lazy..

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Pat is like the scarlet pimpernel, he drops in, thinks he has let off a grenade (which is more like a duff sparkler) then vanishes to post some satire of varying qualities on other threads!

Will ask Pat again...

Question...after last few weeks do you honestly believe Truss is THE person to lead the Tories to General Election success at any point between now and two years time?. Why not. Her performance will be assessed over a two year period and the electorate will vote accordingly. It looks like it is onwards and upwards. Liz is driven by success. Shell only employ exceptionally talented people.

Thanks for answering Pat. I am pinning this and will remind you of you when she is gone.. What happens will hardly make a pin of difference to my life. However I hope she remains in power to prove all the doubters wrong. Feel free to remind me when she is gone . You might have a very long wait. Jeremy Hunt will sail the skip threw the storm , then it is onwards and upwards.

Was that a slight shift in allegiance towards Hunt? You pinned your colours to the Truss Trimaran just as you did previously to the Boris Barge. That sunk as will she. Your convictions will continue to be challenged! . Neither ship sunk if you look at their achievements . Basic common sense suggests that support should be given to all members of cabinet. There is only one objective and that is to win the election in two years time . I am more than happy to support Jeremy Hunt. One of life's winners.

Is he one of life’s winners like Johnson and Truss. I think Hunt would probably prefer to NOT have your endorsement Pat as your record for political longevity isn’t good!. Most people would regard being elected as a pm as an achievement very few people will achieve.

Johnson got elected by the public on a set of lies. Truss got “elected” by a tiny number of Tory members. Even Tory MPs didn’t want her!

Her only achievement is to trash the UK economy within a matter of weeks. Takes wuite some doing.

Truss is toast!. Regardless of how you wish to present it Johnson won an 80 seat majority. . That was a considerable achievement. You cannot judge Liz Truss by her short time in office. That is irrelevant. What matters is performance over a two year period. The electorate will decide in two years time . Liz and Jerry will prove to be a winning team. Let's see what the electorate think in two years time .

She sank the economy pat, it's totally right to judge someone who should have known better who fucked up so badly and that mess has negatively affected millions of people..

Real world, real people, real detrimental costs to real decent people's finances..

So yes she has been found badly out if her depth and incompetent in her short time in office..

If a d*unk driver kills a family whilst they may b not have previous convictions it is the actions of them behind the wheel pissed at that time which is judged ..

To say she cannot be judged is bollocks and only an idiot would agree with such bollocks..

Your girl fucked up fella, own it.. I will pass judgement in two years time when there is a chance to do an objective review of her performance. A few minor hiccups are neither here or their . In two years time we can make an objective assessment which is what matters ( as opposed to the opinions of those who simply want her to fail)

You sir are a fool... More than happy to be considered a fool as long as we get the correct results . What matters to are votes cast on the day or an election , everything else is irrelevant. You cannot argue with what is achieved at the ballot box. It is a true reflection of public opinion . "

Then when the letters go in to the 22 committee you'll accept that then..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Apparently a little bird told me that the letters are past the threshold already, so no point speculating, oh the Joy!

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By *ustintime69Man
over a year ago

Bristol

I believe the phrase you are looking for Pat is “dead (wo)man walking!”

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