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By *ebjonnson OP Man
over a year ago

Maldon

Another deadly police shooting in Derby. Surprise surprise , a Romanian who was due to appear in court on an assault charge. Not much coverage of this in the press.

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Another deadly police shooting in Derby. Surprise surprise , a Romanian who was due to appear in court on an assault charge. Not much coverage of this in the press. "

‘Surprise surprise’ ? how many Romanians have been shot by the police in the UK this year?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Another deadly police shooting in Derby. Surprise surprise , a Romanian who was due to appear in court on an assault charge. Not much coverage of this in the press. "
the case had been dropped before then.

Source: BBC. (Three articles)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sounds like it gave the police something to do. It's nice that they're not so stupid enough to allow a person with a knife to attack them.

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By *coptoCouple
over a year ago

Côte d'Azur & Great Yarmouth

We've got sus and DWB (Driving While Black) laws, let's add "looking foreign" to our list of reasons to arrest and/or shoot people.

It's now got so silly that someone I know was recently "de-arrested" so that he could be "re-questioned" (I think he was suspected of having voted Labour)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A man brandishing a knife in a police allotment from the sounds of it. They wouldn't have shot him unless they had no other option.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A man brandishing a knife in a police allotment from the sounds of it. They wouldn't have shot him unless they had no other option."

We will find out when they hold an inquiry ,

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

Well they seem to have used a stun grenade then a baton round then a taser and he was still threatening them, sounds like shooting him was a last resort

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By *ebjonnson OP Man
over a year ago

Maldon

"Well they seem to have used a stun grenade then a baton round then a taser and he was still threatening them, sounds like shooting him was a last resort"

Sounds like a nasty piece of work. Strange as we are told that all immigrants are “good hard working people that contribute greatly to the UK economy & culture “.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well they seem to have used a stun grenade then a baton round then a taser and he was still threatening them, sounds like shooting him was a last resort

Sounds like a nasty piece of work. Strange as we are told that all immigrants are “good hard working people that contribute greatly to the UK economy & culture “. "
find me a quote where someone says all immigrants are hard working. I suspect there are as many as people saying all immigrants are nasty pieces of work.

But I'm also intigued how you determine a persons character based on how easy they are taken down by the police.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm just waiting for the fake outrage from the OP when someone calls him a racist...

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By *eroy1000Man
over a year ago

milton keynes

"Well they seem to have used a stun grenade then a baton round then a taser and he was still threatening them, sounds like shooting him was a last resort"

I would not be wanting to encounter him while out and about. Hope he is the exception and this is not typical

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By *ebjonnson OP Man
over a year ago

Maldon

"I'm just waiting for the fake outrage from the OP when someone calls him a racist...

What an odd thing to say. There would be no outrage fake or not, as it would be incorrect.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hard to tell if you're actually delusional or just taking the Mick.

I suspect the former.

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By *ebjonnson OP Man
over a year ago

Maldon

"Hard to tell if you're actually delusional or just taking the Mick.

I suspect the former."

Neither of course.

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol

Considering what happened on Westminster bridge not all that long ago where 2 people lost their lives to a nutter waving a knife he got what he deserved

It’s about time the police took a harder line when faced with people like that and no I do t care if someone is offended by my opinion

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By *ammskiMan
over a year ago

lytham st.annes

"Considering what happened on Westminster bridge not all that long ago where 2 people lost their lives to a nutter waving a knife he got what he deserved

It’s about time the police took a harder line when faced with people like that and no I do t care if someone is offended by my opinion

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

"Considering what happened on Westminster bridge not all that long ago where 2 people lost their lives to a nutter waving a knife he got what he deserved

It’s about time the police took a harder line when faced with people like that and no I do t care if someone is offended by my opinion

Always find it weird when people cheer on the police killing people, as if living in Mega City One with Judge Dredd going around executing people would be a good thing.

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By *oubleswing2019Man
over a year ago

Colchester

Always find it weird when people cheer on the police killing people, as if living in Mega City One with Judge Dredd going around executing people would be a good thing."

I met Pat Mills once and he's on record as essentially saying that Judge Dredd was a cautionary tale of a dystopian fascist-police state with authoritarian and totalitarian laws. However, to get the point across, said laws are dialled beyond 11 to be deliberately grotesque and cruel. A society no-one in their rational mind would want to live in.

And yet despite this, he said some people still "admired" Judge Dredd and felt that the society was a good one to live.

I get the feeling he did create "a monster" and had no idea it would resonate positively with some people, much to his horror.

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma

"Considering what happened on Westminster bridge not all that long ago where 2 people lost their lives to a nutter waving a knife he got what he deserved

It’s about time the police took a harder line when faced with people like that and no I do t care if someone is offended by my opinion

Always find it weird when people cheer on the police killing people, as if living in Mega City One with Judge Dredd going around executing people would be a good thing."

2 questions from you last post:

Can you explain how police should work against the threat to life, either their own or others?

What is a reasonable response from the public, after a police officer or any other person who has prevented a person from carrying out deliberate and deadly harm?

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

"Considering what happened on Westminster bridge not all that long ago where 2 people lost their lives to a nutter waving a knife he got what he deserved

It’s about time the police took a harder line when faced with people like that and no I do t care if someone is offended by my opinion

Always find it weird when people cheer on the police killing people, as if living in Mega City One with Judge Dredd going around executing people would be a good thing.

2 questions from you last post:

Can you explain how police should work against the threat to life, either their own or others?

What is a reasonable response from the public, after a police officer or any other person who has prevented a person from carrying out deliberate and deadly harm?

These questions are too vague to answer. Can you be more specific?

My main point is that I'm against the police shooting and killing punters that look dodgy/foreign.

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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago

Longridge

"Sounds like it gave the police something to do. It's nice that they're not so stupid enough to allow a person with a knife to attack them."

I think it was the bricks through the window. Stick you hand in a wasps nest, you're bound to get stung.

Darwen Awards 2023 contender.

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma

"Considering what happened on Westminster bridge not all that long ago where 2 people lost their lives to a nutter waving a knife he got what he deserved

It’s about time the police took a harder line when faced with people like that and no I do t care if someone is offended by my opinion

Always find it weird when people cheer on the police killing people, as if living in Mega City One with Judge Dredd going around executing people would be a good thing.

2 questions from you last post:

Can you explain how police should work against the threat to life, either their own or others?

What is a reasonable response from the public, after a police officer or any other person who has prevented a person from carrying out deliberate and deadly harm?

These questions are too vague to answer. Can you be more specific?

My main point is that I'm against the police shooting and killing punters that look dodgy/foreign. "

Punters?

When do you think it is acceptable for the police to act with lethal force?

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

"Considering what happened on Westminster bridge not all that long ago where 2 people lost their lives to a nutter waving a knife he got what he deserved

It’s about time the police took a harder line when faced with people like that and no I do t care if someone is offended by my opinion

Always find it weird when people cheer on the police killing people, as if living in Mega City One with Judge Dredd going around executing people would be a good thing.

2 questions from you last post:

Can you explain how police should work against the threat to life, either their own or others?

What is a reasonable response from the public, after a police officer or any other person who has prevented a person from carrying out deliberate and deadly harm?

These questions are too vague to answer. Can you be more specific?

My main point is that I'm against the police shooting and killing punters that look dodgy/foreign.

Punters?

When do you think it is acceptable for the police to act with lethal force?"

When it's the absolute last resort, and it's the only way to stop them killing someone else. This is almost never necessary.

And in my opinion, definitely not justified to "give them something to do" as suggested above.

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma

"Considering what happened on Westminster bridge not all that long ago where 2 people lost their lives to a nutter waving a knife he got what he deserved

It’s about time the police took a harder line when faced with people like that and no I do t care if someone is offended by my opinion

Always find it weird when people cheer on the police killing people, as if living in Mega City One with Judge Dredd going around executing people would be a good thing.

2 questions from you last post:

Can you explain how police should work against the threat to life, either their own or others?

What is a reasonable response from the public, after a police officer or any other person who has prevented a person from carrying out deliberate and deadly harm?

These questions are too vague to answer. Can you be more specific?

My main point is that I'm against the police shooting and killing punters that look dodgy/foreign.

Punters?

When do you think it is acceptable for the police to act with lethal force?

When it's the absolute last resort, and it's the only way to stop them killing someone else. This is almost never necessary.

And in my opinion, definitely not justified to "give them something to do" as suggested above."

I'm not interested in the throw away give them something to do comment, it isn't worth responding to.

I'm not sure you answer is exactly what you meant, it could be..

Is lethal force acceptable only to prevent a loss of someone else's life? Does someone else, include the police officer facing into the threat?

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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago

Longridge

I know one thing..

He won't be throwing bricks through police windows nor threatening them with a knife ever again.

I don't see anything wrong.

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol

"Considering what happened on Westminster bridge not all that long ago where 2 people lost their lives to a nutter waving a knife he got what he deserved

It’s about time the police took a harder line when faced with people like that and no I do t care if someone is offended by my opinion

Always find it weird when people cheer on the police killing people, as if living in Mega City One with Judge Dredd going around executing people would be a good thing."

Run around waving a knife then no sympathy.

Too many times have people lost lives or suffred life changing injuries some very sevier and life limmiting.

Now if it was a police officer the one doing the same thing would the snowflakes be so lenient??

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

"Considering what happened on Westminster bridge not all that long ago where 2 people lost their lives to a nutter waving a knife he got what he deserved

It’s about time the police took a harder line when faced with people like that and no I do t care if someone is offended by my opinion

Always find it weird when people cheer on the police killing people, as if living in Mega City One with Judge Dredd going around executing people would be a good thing.

2 questions from you last post:

Can you explain how police should work against the threat to life, either their own or others?

What is a reasonable response from the public, after a police officer or any other person who has prevented a person from carrying out deliberate and deadly harm?

These questions are too vague to answer. Can you be more specific?

My main point is that I'm against the police shooting and killing punters that look dodgy/foreign.

Punters?

When do you think it is acceptable for the police to act with lethal force?

When it's the absolute last resort, and it's the only way to stop them killing someone else. This is almost never necessary.

And in my opinion, definitely not justified to "give them something to do" as suggested above.

I'm not interested in the throw away give them something to do comment, it isn't worth responding to.

I'm not sure you answer is exactly what you meant, it could be..

Is lethal force acceptable only to prevent a loss of someone else's life? Does someone else, include the police officer facing into the threat?"

Yes it includes the police.

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By *andy 1Couple
over a year ago

northeast

"Considering what happened on Westminster bridge not all that long ago where 2 people lost their lives to a nutter waving a knife he got what he deserved

It’s about time the police took a harder line when faced with people like that and no I do t care if someone is offended by my opinion

Always find it weird when people cheer on the police killing people, as if living in Mega City One with Judge Dredd going around executing people would be a good thing.

2 questions from you last post:

Can you explain how police should work against the threat to life, either their own or others?

What is a reasonable response from the public, after a police officer or any other person who has prevented a person from carrying out deliberate and deadly harm?

These questions are too vague to answer. Can you be more specific?

My main point is that I'm against the police shooting and killing punters that look dodgy/foreign.

Punters?

When do you think it is acceptable for the police to act with lethal force?

When it's the absolute last resort, and it's the only way to stop them killing someone else. This is almost never necessary.

And in my opinion, definitely not justified to "give them something to do" as suggested above.

I'm not interested in the throw away give them something to do comment, it isn't worth responding to.

I'm not sure you answer is exactly what you meant, it could be..

Is lethal force acceptable only to prevent a loss of someone else's life? Does someone else, include the police officer facing into the threat?"

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

It's reported that he had several knives of varying sizes.

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

"Considering what happened on Westminster bridge not all that long ago where 2 people lost their lives to a nutter waving a knife he got what he deserved

It’s about time the police took a harder line when faced with people like that and no I do t care if someone is offended by my opinion

Always find it weird when people cheer on the police killing people, as if living in Mega City One with Judge Dredd going around executing people would be a good thing.

2 questions from you last post:

Can you explain how police should work against the threat to life, either their own or others?

What is a reasonable response from the public, after a police officer or any other person who has prevented a person from carrying out deliberate and deadly harm?

These questions are too vague to answer. Can you be more specific?

My main point is that I'm against the police shooting and killing punters that look dodgy/foreign.

Punters?

When do you think it is acceptable for the police to act with lethal force?

When it's the absolute last resort, and it's the only way to stop them killing someone else. This is almost never necessary.

And in my opinion, definitely not justified to "give them something to do" as suggested above.

I'm not interested in the throw away give them something to do comment, it isn't worth responding to.

I'm not sure you answer is exactly what you meant, it could be..

Is lethal force acceptable only to prevent a loss of someone else's life? Does someone else, include the police officer facing into the threat?

Yes it includes the police.

The two comments directly above are what I'm talking about. There's seems to be plenty cheering on the police shooting and killing people in the street for various perceived crimes. I wonder where their line is? Executed for throwing a brick, executed for picking up a brick, executed for looking at a brick?"
no mention of the knife he was waving about i see and they did use three non lethal weapons first. so not as if they just shot the bloke, play stupid games win stupid prizes springs to mind

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By *andlerMan
over a year ago

shipley

News reports are now based on opinions of those writing or reporting on the article, social media too has opened the world up to other people's opinions!

It also seems when someone has an opinion that someone disagrees with you get some people who are offended!

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

"Considering what happened on Westminster bridge not all that long ago where 2 people lost their lives to a nutter waving a knife he got what he deserved

It’s about time the police took a harder line when faced with people like that and no I do t care if someone is offended by my opinion

Always find it weird when people cheer on the police killing people, as if living in Mega City One with Judge Dredd going around executing people would be a good thing.

2 questions from you last post:

Can you explain how police should work against the threat to life, either their own or others?

What is a reasonable response from the public, after a police officer or any other person who has prevented a person from carrying out deliberate and deadly harm?

These questions are too vague to answer. Can you be more specific?

My main point is that I'm against the police shooting and killing punters that look dodgy/foreign.

Punters?

When do you think it is acceptable for the police to act with lethal force?

When it's the absolute last resort, and it's the only way to stop them killing someone else. This is almost never necessary.

And in my opinion, definitely not justified to "give them something to do" as suggested above.

I'm not interested in the throw away give them something to do comment, it isn't worth responding to.

I'm not sure you answer is exactly what you meant, it could be..

Is lethal force acceptable only to prevent a loss of someone else's life? Does someone else, include the police officer facing into the threat?

Yes it includes the police.

The two comments directly above are what I'm talking about. There's seems to be plenty cheering on the police shooting and killing people in the street for various perceived crimes. I wonder where their line is? Executed for throwing a brick, executed for picking up a brick, executed for looking at a brick?no mention of the knife he was waving about i see and they did use three non lethal weapons first. so not as if they just shot the bloke, play stupid games win stupid prizes springs to mind"

I'm more referring to the people getting a boner about the police shooting and killing people to "give them something to do" and other such ridiculous statements.

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma

"Considering what happened on Westminster bridge not all that long ago where 2 people lost their lives to a nutter waving a knife he got what he deserved

It’s about time the police took a harder line when faced with people like that and no I do t care if someone is offended by my opinion

Always find it weird when people cheer on the police killing people, as if living in Mega City One with Judge Dredd going around executing people would be a good thing.

2 questions from you last post:

Can you explain how police should work against the threat to life, either their own or others?

What is a reasonable response from the public, after a police officer or any other person who has prevented a person from carrying out deliberate and deadly harm?

These questions are too vague to answer. Can you be more specific?

My main point is that I'm against the police shooting and killing punters that look dodgy/foreign.

Punters?

When do you think it is acceptable for the police to act with lethal force?

When it's the absolute last resort, and it's the only way to stop them killing someone else. This is almost never necessary.

And in my opinion, definitely not justified to "give them something to do" as suggested above.

I'm not interested in the throw away give them something to do comment, it isn't worth responding to.

I'm not sure you answer is exactly what you meant, it could be..

Is lethal force acceptable only to prevent a loss of someone else's life? Does someone else, include the police officer facing into the threat?

Yes it includes the police.

Unfortunately we are changing as a society, dumbed down by social media images and videos of people killing or being killed, it is becoming normalised.

The police are dealing with more and more incidents that are putting them in danger, people are seeing more and more incidents in life and on social media.

I think people are frightened by the shift in violence they see or hear about, they are frightened by the lack of respect from those carrying out crimes have for the police and society in general.

A cheer of support for the police when they have taken a life, is a reflection of how society has changed.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

"Considering what happened on Westminster bridge not all that long ago where 2 people lost their lives to a nutter waving a knife he got what he deserved

It’s about time the police took a harder line when faced with people like that and no I do t care if someone is offended by my opinion

Always find it weird when people cheer on the police killing people, as if living in Mega City One with Judge Dredd going around executing people would be a good thing.

2 questions from you last post:

Can you explain how police should work against the threat to life, either their own or others?

What is a reasonable response from the public, after a police officer or any other person who has prevented a person from carrying out deliberate and deadly harm?

These questions are too vague to answer. Can you be more specific?

My main point is that I'm against the police shooting and killing punters that look dodgy/foreign.

Punters?

When do you think it is acceptable for the police to act with lethal force?

When it's the absolute last resort, and it's the only way to stop them killing someone else. This is almost never necessary.

And in my opinion, definitely not justified to "give them something to do" as suggested above.

I'm not interested in the throw away give them something to do comment, it isn't worth responding to.

I'm not sure you answer is exactly what you meant, it could be..

Is lethal force acceptable only to prevent a loss of someone else's life? Does someone else, include the police officer facing into the threat?

Yes it includes the police.

Unfortunately we are changing as a society, dumbed down by social media images and videos of people killing or being killed, it is becoming normalised.

The police are dealing with more and more incidents that are putting them in danger, people are seeing more and more incidents in life and on social media.

I think people are frightened by the shift in violence they see or hear about, they are frightened by the lack of respect from those carrying out crimes have for the police and society in general.

A cheer of support for the police when they have taken a life, is a reflection of how society has changed. "

I agree, the media loves to pump fear. We're getting more like America by the day.

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma

"Considering what happened on Westminster bridge not all that long ago where 2 people lost their lives to a nutter waving a knife he got what he deserved

It’s about time the police took a harder line when faced with people like that and no I do t care if someone is offended by my opinion

Always find it weird when people cheer on the police killing people, as if living in Mega City One with Judge Dredd going around executing people would be a good thing.

2 questions from you last post:

Can you explain how police should work against the threat to life, either their own or others?

What is a reasonable response from the public, after a police officer or any other person who has prevented a person from carrying out deliberate and deadly harm?

These questions are too vague to answer. Can you be more specific?

My main point is that I'm against the police shooting and killing punters that look dodgy/foreign.

Punters?

When do you think it is acceptable for the police to act with lethal force?

When it's the absolute last resort, and it's the only way to stop them killing someone else. This is almost never necessary.

And in my opinion, definitely not justified to "give them something to do" as suggested above.

I'm not interested in the throw away give them something to do comment, it isn't worth responding to.

I'm not sure you answer is exactly what you meant, it could be..

Is lethal force acceptable only to prevent a loss of someone else's life? Does someone else, include the police officer facing into the threat?

Yes it includes the police.

Unfortunately we are changing as a society, dumbed down by social media images and videos of people killing or being killed, it is becoming normalised.

The police are dealing with more and more incidents that are putting them in danger, people are seeing more and more incidents in life and on social media.

I think people are frightened by the shift in violence they see or hear about, they are frightened by the lack of respect from those carrying out crimes have for the police and society in general.

A cheer of support for the police when they have taken a life, is a reflection of how society has changed.

I agree, the media loves to pump fear. We're getting more like America by the day."

We are, live streaming a fight or shootout from LA is real.

This is why people react in support of the police, they feel the criminals are getting the upper hand.

When the police began tactically knocking scooter riders off their scooters with their cars, I was happy, it made me smile.

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By *layTimeEssexCouple
over a year ago

Stansted

"Well they seem to have used a stun grenade then a baton round then a taser and he was still threatening them, sounds like shooting him was a last resort

Sounds like a nasty piece of work. Strange as we are told that all immigrants are “good hard working people that contribute greatly to the UK economy & culture “. "

Who tells you that? Nobody sensible would ever say ALL. Perhaps "they" say they are like the rest of us - mostly decent people working and contributing but a few bad apples, bit like non-immigrant white people.

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By *ebjonnson OP Man
over a year ago

Maldon

"Well they seem to have used a stun grenade then a baton round then a taser and he was still threatening them, sounds like shooting him was a last resort

Sounds like a nasty piece of work. Strange as we are told that all immigrants are “good hard working people that contribute greatly to the UK economy & culture “.

A regular poster in the political forum. I thought it was a bold (daft) claim at the time but he’s repeated it since.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well they seem to have used a stun grenade then a baton round then a taser and he was still threatening them, sounds like shooting him was a last resort

Sounds like a nasty piece of work. Strange as we are told that all immigrants are “good hard working people that contribute greatly to the UK economy & culture “.

Indeed, this is exactly what I said, unfortunately the OP struggled to accept this, poor bloke

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By *layTimeEssexCouple
over a year ago

Stansted

"Well they seem to have used a stun grenade then a baton round then a taser and he was still threatening them, sounds like shooting him was a last resort

Sounds like a nasty piece of work. Strange as we are told that all immigrants are “good hard working people that contribute greatly to the UK economy & culture “.

A regular poster in the political forum. I thought it was a bold (daft) claim at the time but he’s repeated it since. "

Are you really sure he said ALL? You seem a touch obsessed with said poster given just him/her. Also obsessed with pointing out the bad apples about immigrants. Feel free to post something positive about the vast majority of immigrants or perhaps something negative about non-immigrants

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well they seem to have used a stun grenade then a baton round then a taser and he was still threatening them, sounds like shooting him was a last resort

Sounds like a nasty piece of work. Strange as we are told that all immigrants are “good hard working people that contribute greatly to the UK economy & culture “.

A regular poster in the political forum. I thought it was a bold (daft) claim at the time but he’s repeated it since.

I didn’t say all, and you are right to highlight his obsession, the poor bloke is losing it

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By *ebjonnson OP Man
over a year ago

Maldon

"Well they seem to have used a stun grenade then a baton round then a taser and he was still threatening them, sounds like shooting him was a last resort

Sounds like a nasty piece of work. Strange as we are told that all immigrants are “good hard working people that contribute greatly to the UK economy & culture “.

Indeed, this is exactly what I said, unfortunately the OP struggled to accept this, poor bloke

Dear oh dear oh dear. A new low indeed.

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By *layTimeEssexCouple
over a year ago

Stansted

"Well they seem to have used a stun grenade then a baton round then a taser and he was still threatening them, sounds like shooting him was a last resort

Sounds like a nasty piece of work. Strange as we are told that all immigrants are “good hard working people that contribute greatly to the UK economy & culture “.

A regular poster in the political forum. I thought it was a bold (daft) claim at the time but he’s repeated it since.

I didn’t say all, and you are right to highlight his obsession, the poor bloke is losing it

Oh it was you. Congratulations on living rent free in Seb's head. Must be an interesting place

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By *layTimeEssexCouple
over a year ago

Stansted

"Well they seem to have used a stun grenade then a baton round then a taser and he was still threatening them, sounds like shooting him was a last resort

Sounds like a nasty piece of work. Strange as we are told that all immigrants are “good hard working people that contribute greatly to the UK economy & culture “.

Indeed, this is exactly what I said, unfortunately the OP struggled to accept this, poor bloke

Dear oh dear oh dear. A new low indeed. "

Perhaps you might just highlight where he said ALL?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well they seem to have used a stun grenade then a baton round then a taser and he was still threatening them, sounds like shooting him was a last resort

Sounds like a nasty piece of work. Strange as we are told that all immigrants are “good hard working people that contribute greatly to the UK economy & culture “.

A regular poster in the political forum. I thought it was a bold (daft) claim at the time but he’s repeated it since.

I didn’t say all, and you are right to highlight his obsession, the poor bloke is losing it

Oh it was you. Congratulations on living rent free in Seb's head. Must be an interesting place

Unfortunately it is full of irrational fear and hatred towards immigrants, a bit of a cess pit tbh

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Again and again and again Seb.

Post something racist. Get called a racist. Feign outrage.

A nasty piece of work.

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By *ebjonnson OP Man
over a year ago

Maldon

"Again and again and again Seb.

Post something racist. Get called a racist. Feign outrage.

A nasty piece of work."

Again and again indeed - I have never posted anything racist. Quite rightly the good people of Fab would not allow it. You like to think so but never explain why. You wouldn’t last five minutes in my golf club debating group. You would be blackballed. Is that a racist term?

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By *ebjonnson OP Man
over a year ago

Maldon

"Well they seem to have used a stun grenade then a baton round then a taser and he was still threatening them, sounds like shooting him was a last resort

Sounds like a nasty piece of work. Strange as we are told that all immigrants are “good hard working people that contribute greatly to the UK economy & culture “.

Indeed, this is exactly what I said, unfortunately the OP struggled to accept this, poor bloke

Dear oh dear oh dear. A new low indeed.

Perhaps you might just highlight where he said ALL? "

It was months back, life is too short to scroll back.

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By *ebjonnson OP Man
over a year ago

Maldon

"Well they seem to have used a stun grenade then a baton round then a taser and he was still threatening them, sounds like shooting him was a last resort

Sounds like a nasty piece of work. Strange as we are told that all immigrants are “good hard working people that contribute greatly to the UK economy & culture “.

A regular poster in the political forum. I thought it was a bold (daft) claim at the time but he’s repeated it since.

I didn’t say all, and you are right to highlight his obsession, the poor bloke is losing it

Oh it was you. Congratulations on living rent free in Seb's head. Must be an interesting place

Unfortunately it is full of irrational fear and hatred towards immigrants, a bit of a cess pit tbh

But of course it’s not.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well they seem to have used a stun grenade then a baton round then a taser and he was still threatening them, sounds like shooting him was a last resort

Sounds like a nasty piece of work. Strange as we are told that all immigrants are “good hard working people that contribute greatly to the UK economy & culture “.

A regular poster in the political forum. I thought it was a bold (daft) claim at the time but he’s repeated it since.

I didn’t say all, and you are right to highlight his obsession, the poor bloke is losing it

Oh it was you. Congratulations on living rent free in Seb's head. Must be an interesting place

Unfortunately it is full of irrational fear and hatred towards immigrants, a bit of a cess pit tbh

But of course it’s not. "

True, it is also full of irrational fear and hatred towards people who care about the environment

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By *ebjonnson OP Man
over a year ago

Maldon

"Well they seem to have used a stun grenade then a baton round then a taser and he was still threatening them, sounds like shooting him was a last resort

Sounds like a nasty piece of work. Strange as we are told that all immigrants are “good hard working people that contribute greatly to the UK economy & culture “.

A regular poster in the political forum. I thought it was a bold (daft) claim at the time but he’s repeated it since.

I didn’t say all, and you are right to highlight his obsession, the poor bloke is losing it

Oh it was you. Congratulations on living rent free in Seb's head. Must be an interesting place

Unfortunately it is full of irrational fear and hatred towards immigrants, a bit of a cess pit tbh

But of course it’s not.

True, it is also full of irrational fear and hatred towards people who care about the environment

Wrong again. Who doesn’t care about the environment? I certainly do.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

"Well they seem to have used a stun grenade then a baton round then a taser and he was still threatening them, sounds like shooting him was a last resort

Sounds like a nasty piece of work. Strange as we are told that all immigrants are “good hard working people that contribute greatly to the UK economy & culture “.

A regular poster in the political forum. I thought it was a bold (daft) claim at the time but he’s repeated it since.

I didn’t say all, and you are right to highlight his obsession, the poor bloke is losing it

Oh it was you. Congratulations on living rent free in Seb's head. Must be an interesting place

Unfortunately it is full of irrational fear and hatred towards immigrants, a bit of a cess pit tbh

But of course it’s not.

True, it is also full of irrational fear and hatred towards people who care about the environment

Wrong again. Who doesn’t care about the environment? I certainly do. "

So much so that you call those who care about the environment enough to protest, "terrorists"?

And told how you and your golf buddies are going to sort them out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well they seem to have used a stun grenade then a baton round then a taser and he was still threatening them, sounds like shooting him was a last resort

Sounds like a nasty piece of work. Strange as we are told that all immigrants are “good hard working people that contribute greatly to the UK economy & culture “.

A regular poster in the political forum. I thought it was a bold (daft) claim at the time but he’s repeated it since.

I didn’t say all, and you are right to highlight his obsession, the poor bloke is losing it

Oh it was you. Congratulations on living rent free in Seb's head. Must be an interesting place

Unfortunately it is full of irrational fear and hatred towards immigrants, a bit of a cess pit tbh

But of course it’s not.

True, it is also full of irrational fear and hatred towards people who care about the environment

Wrong again. Who doesn’t care about the environment? I certainly do. "

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By *ebjonnson OP Man
over a year ago

Maldon

"Well they seem to have used a stun grenade then a baton round then a taser and he was still threatening them, sounds like shooting him was a last resort

Sounds like a nasty piece of work. Strange as we are told that all immigrants are “good hard working people that contribute greatly to the UK economy & culture “.

A regular poster in the political forum. I thought it was a bold (daft) claim at the time but he’s repeated it since.

I didn’t say all, and you are right to highlight his obsession, the poor bloke is losing it

Oh it was you. Congratulations on living rent free in Seb's head. Must be an interesting place

Unfortunately it is full of irrational fear and hatred towards immigrants, a bit of a cess pit tbh

But of course it’s not.

True, it is also full of irrational fear and hatred towards people who care about the environment

Wrong again. Who doesn’t care about the environment? I certainly do.

So much so that you call those who care about the environment enough to protest, "terrorists"?

And told how you and your golf buddies are going to sort them out.

Perhaps it’s the tedious manner in which they protest.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

"Well they seem to have used a stun grenade then a baton round then a taser and he was still threatening them, sounds like shooting him was a last resort

Sounds like a nasty piece of work. Strange as we are told that all immigrants are “good hard working people that contribute greatly to the UK economy & culture “.

A regular poster in the political forum. I thought it was a bold (daft) claim at the time but he’s repeated it since.

I didn’t say all, and you are right to highlight his obsession, the poor bloke is losing it

Oh it was you. Congratulations on living rent free in Seb's head. Must be an interesting place

Unfortunately it is full of irrational fear and hatred towards immigrants, a bit of a cess pit tbh

But of course it’s not.

True, it is also full of irrational fear and hatred towards people who care about the environment

Wrong again. Who doesn’t care about the environment? I certainly do.

So much so that you call those who care about the environment enough to protest, "terrorists"?

And told how you and your golf buddies are going to sort them out.

Perhaps it’s the tedious manner in which they protest. "

Maybe you should consider a better way of protesting and get started on that, instead of worrying about them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well they seem to have used a stun grenade then a baton round then a taser and he was still threatening them, sounds like shooting him was a last resort

Sounds like a nasty piece of work. Strange as we are told that all immigrants are “good hard working people that contribute greatly to the UK economy & culture “.

A regular poster in the political forum. I thought it was a bold (daft) claim at the time but he’s repeated it since.

I didn’t say all, and you are right to highlight his obsession, the poor bloke is losing it

Oh it was you. Congratulations on living rent free in Seb's head. Must be an interesting place

Unfortunately it is full of irrational fear and hatred towards immigrants, a bit of a cess pit tbh

But of course it’s not.

True, it is also full of irrational fear and hatred towards people who care about the environment

Wrong again. Who doesn’t care about the environment? I certainly do.

So much so that you call those who care about the environment enough to protest, "terrorists"?

And told how you and your golf buddies are going to sort them out.

Perhaps it’s the tedious manner in which they protest. "

What if they wore Pringle jumpers?

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

"Another deadly police shooting in Derby. Surprise surprise , a Romanian who was due to appear in court on an assault charge. Not much coverage of this in the press. "

Late to this by why did you say “surprise surprise” (other than being a huge Cilla Black fan I guess)?

Was the surprise he was Romanian? If so why?

Was the surprise he was due to appear in court on assault charges?

Or was the surprise the lack of media coverage? Trying to understand the statement Seb?

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By *ebjonnson OP Man
over a year ago

Maldon

"Another deadly police shooting in Derby. Surprise surprise , a Romanian who was due to appear in court on an assault charge. Not much coverage of this in the press.

Late to this by why did you say “surprise surprise” (other than being a huge Cilla Black fan I guess)?

Was the surprise he was Romanian? If so why?

Was the surprise he was due to appear in court on assault charges?

Or was the surprise the lack of media coverage? Trying to understand the statement Seb?"

It was an ironic surprise surprise. Yet another example of a mad & bad foreigner. Far from being of benefit to the UK economy & culture, turns out to have been a huge cost and a danger.

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over a year ago

"Another deadly police shooting in Derby. Surprise surprise , a Romanian who was due to appear in court on an assault charge. Not much coverage of this in the press.

Late to this by why did you say “surprise surprise” (other than being a huge Cilla Black fan I guess)?

Was the surprise he was Romanian? If so why?

Was the surprise he was due to appear in court on assault charges?

Or was the surprise the lack of media coverage? Trying to understand the statement Seb?

It was an ironic surprise surprise. Yet another example of a mad & bad foreigner. Far from being of benefit to the UK economy & culture, turns out to have been a huge cost and a danger. "

Are these ‘mad and bad foreigners’ worse than the ‘mad and bad British citizens’ ?

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

"Another deadly police shooting in Derby. Surprise surprise , a Romanian who was due to appear in court on an assault charge. Not much coverage of this in the press.

Late to this by why did you say “surprise surprise” (other than being a huge Cilla Black fan I guess)?

Was the surprise he was Romanian? If so why?

Was the surprise he was due to appear in court on assault charges?

Or was the surprise the lack of media coverage? Trying to understand the statement Seb?

It was an ironic surprise surprise. Yet another example of a mad & bad foreigner. Far from being of benefit to the UK economy & culture, turns out to have been a huge cost and a danger. "

Wonder what the percentage of immigrants that are mad & bad are? Wonder how that stacks up against homegrown mad & bad folks?

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over a year ago

"Another deadly police shooting in Derby. Surprise surprise , a Romanian who was due to appear in court on an assault charge. Not much coverage of this in the press.

Late to this by why did you say “surprise surprise” (other than being a huge Cilla Black fan I guess)?

Was the surprise he was Romanian? If so why?

Was the surprise he was due to appear in court on assault charges?

Or was the surprise the lack of media coverage? Trying to understand the statement Seb?

It was an ironic surprise surprise. Yet another example of a mad & bad foreigner. Far from being of benefit to the UK economy & culture, turns out to have been a huge cost and a danger. "
"yet another". Irrc previous cases cited have included Brits and those who had asylum turned down.

I also noted at the time there was a lot less forum activity on the Liverpool killings. When the race wasn't clear ...

Gotta be careful of confirmation bias here.

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By *layTimeEssexCouple
over a year ago

Stansted

Seb should change his name to Mr Confirmation Bias. Perhaps change it back once he starts a positive thread on foreigners or something on crime committed by white non-immigrants.

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over a year ago

"Seb should change his name to Mr Confirmation Bias. Perhaps change it back once he starts a positive thread on foreigners or something on crime committed by white non-immigrants. "

I think he is just confused and uneducated rather than prejudiced

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By *ebjonnson OP Man
over a year ago

Maldon

"Seb should change his name to Mr Confirmation Bias. Perhaps change it back once he starts a positive thread on foreigners or something on crime committed by white non-immigrants.

I think he is just confused and uneducated rather than prejudiced "
keep trolling.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Seb should change his name to Mr Confirmation Bias. Perhaps change it back once he starts a positive thread on foreigners or something on crime committed by white non-immigrants.

I think he is just confused and uneducated rather than prejudiced keep trolling."

It is clear to us all, really sad to see

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma

I think the bigger picture is lost in this thread.

I would think that this man suffered from mental illness, if the reports of knives and being in a police compound / carpark, are correct.

I would be interested to know If he was known to be suffering from an illness or was it totally random.

I would also like to know if the British police have access to rubber bullets, baton guns or other non lethal firearms. I do know those weapons could still kill, but less likely than a bullet in the head.

It would be interesting to know the tactics being deployed when facing a threat, is it to terminate the threat or disable it.

The problem I can see immediately is a terrorist attack needs to be neutralised, to stop the threat to life. A police officer carrying lethal and non-lethal (other than a taser) weapons would be a logistical nightmare.

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