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"This trip will kill her She has already shot herself in the foot with the British media on day 1 and as I understand she will meet Biden tomorrow and then make a speech at the UN. " And no trade deal with the US, what a shit PM, utterly useless and a spanner to boot. | |||
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"This trip will kill her She has already shot herself in the foot with the British media on day 1 and as I understand she will meet Biden tomorrow and then make a speech at the UN. " I hope not, I want our PM to do the best job possible! I don't wish to relish in a possibility of her failing to build confidence on a world stage. A lack of world confidence in our PM will lead to further impacts on people in the UK who are less able to afford it. However if failure of a UK PM is the thing that keeps people happy, who am I to argue. | |||
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"This trip will kill her She has already shot herself in the foot with the British media on day 1 and as I understand she will meet Biden tomorrow and then make a speech at the UN. I hope not, I want our PM to do the best job possible! I don't wish to relish in a possibility of her failing to build confidence on a world stage. A lack of world confidence in our PM will lead to further impacts on people in the UK who are less able to afford it. However if failure of a UK PM is the thing that keeps people happy, who am I to argue. " If a PM says she is prepared to be unpopular what do you think that means? Politicians become unpopular when they demonstrably act against the interest of the people that they represent. She is ready to act, and in fact already is acting against the interest of the overwhelming majority of people in this country. | |||
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"This trip will kill her She has already shot herself in the foot with the British media on day 1 and as I understand she will meet Biden tomorrow and then make a speech at the UN. I hope not, I want our PM to do the best job possible! I don't wish to relish in a possibility of her failing to build confidence on a world stage. A lack of world confidence in our PM will lead to further impacts on people in the UK who are less able to afford it. However if failure of a UK PM is the thing that keeps people happy, who am I to argue. If a PM says she is prepared to be unpopular what do you think that means? Politicians become unpopular when they demonstrably act against the interest of the people that they represent. She is ready to act, and in fact already is acting against the interest of the overwhelming majority of people in this country." Are you speaking for the majority of the country? What is Truss going to get wrong? Factual, not gut feel. | |||
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"This trip will kill her She has already shot herself in the foot with the British media on day 1 and as I understand she will meet Biden tomorrow and then make a speech at the UN. And no trade deal with the US, what a shit PM, utterly useless and a spanner to boot." I mean without capitulation of our agricultural, pharmaceutical and maybe even financial standards and sectors we'd never get one. Why would a fairly large protectionist economy give us large market access for our smaller market access, on our terms? | |||
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"This trip will kill her She has already shot herself in the foot with the British media on day 1 and as I understand she will meet Biden tomorrow and then make a speech at the UN. I hope not, I want our PM to do the best job possible! I don't wish to relish in a possibility of her failing to build confidence on a world stage. A lack of world confidence in our PM will lead to further impacts on people in the UK who are less able to afford it. However if failure of a UK PM is the thing that keeps people happy, who am I to argue. If a PM says she is prepared to be unpopular what do you think that means? Politicians become unpopular when they demonstrably act against the interest of the people that they represent. She is ready to act, and in fact already is acting against the interest of the overwhelming majority of people in this country. Are you speaking for the majority of the country? What is Truss going to get wrong? Factual, not gut feel. " Energy loans for consumers - and no intention of getting the energy companies to pay a penny. Tax cuts in the face of an NHS that is barely functioning. Championing the cause of a high wage economy, as long as it is not Civil Servants, Doctors, Nurses, Teachers etc etc. Today she will make a speech that President Biden has already trolled. She will extol the benefits of trickle down economics - a discredited economic theory that suggests that wealth at the very top of society eventually trickles down to benefit everyone. It is both insulting to those at the bottom suggesting that they should be content with crumbs and it is incorrect conceptually. | |||
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"This trip will kill her She has already shot herself in the foot with the British media on day 1 and as I understand she will meet Biden tomorrow and then make a speech at the UN. I hope not, I want our PM to do the best job possible! I don't wish to relish in a possibility of her failing to build confidence on a world stage. A lack of world confidence in our PM will lead to further impacts on people in the UK who are less able to afford it. However if failure of a UK PM is the thing that keeps people happy, who am I to argue. If a PM says she is prepared to be unpopular what do you think that means? Politicians become unpopular when they demonstrably act against the interest of the people that they represent. She is ready to act, and in fact already is acting against the interest of the overwhelming majority of people in this country. Are you speaking for the majority of the country? What is Truss going to get wrong? Factual, not gut feel. Energy loans for consumers - and no intention of getting the energy companies to pay a penny. Tax cuts in the face of an NHS that is barely functioning. Championing the cause of a high wage economy, as long as it is not Civil Servants, Doctors, Nurses, Teachers etc etc. Today she will make a speech that President Biden has already trolled. She will extol the benefits of trickle down economics - a discredited economic theory that suggests that wealth at the very top of society eventually trickles down to benefit everyone. It is both insulting to those at the bottom suggesting that they should be content with crumbs and it is incorrect conceptually." When will you be happy with the decision making, and why do you believe you know better than the advisors and strategists employed to support us? I asked this question on another thread... Do you think everyone should be paid the same? | |||
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"This trip will kill her She has already shot herself in the foot with the British media on day 1 and as I understand she will meet Biden tomorrow and then make a speech at the UN. I hope not, I want our PM to do the best job possible! I don't wish to relish in a possibility of her failing to build confidence on a world stage. A lack of world confidence in our PM will lead to further impacts on people in the UK who are less able to afford it. However if failure of a UK PM is the thing that keeps people happy, who am I to argue. If a PM says she is prepared to be unpopular what do you think that means? Politicians become unpopular when they demonstrably act against the interest of the people that they represent. She is ready to act, and in fact already is acting against the interest of the overwhelming majority of people in this country. Are you speaking for the majority of the country? What is Truss going to get wrong? Factual, not gut feel. Energy loans for consumers - and no intention of getting the energy companies to pay a penny. Tax cuts in the face of an NHS that is barely functioning. Championing the cause of a high wage economy, as long as it is not Civil Servants, Doctors, Nurses, Teachers etc etc. Today she will make a speech that President Biden has already trolled. She will extol the benefits of trickle down economics - a discredited economic theory that suggests that wealth at the very top of society eventually trickles down to benefit everyone. It is both insulting to those at the bottom suggesting that they should be content with crumbs and it is incorrect conceptually. When will you be happy with the decision making, and why do you believe you know better than the advisors and strategists employed to support us? I asked this question on another thread... Do you think everyone should be paid the same? " What a strange response…. The Conservatives will get voted out at the next election because Truss has been appointed to conduct an economic strategy that was pursued by Ronald Reagan (and others) and it has never worked before. Have you not noticed the sudden change of language from ‘productivity’ to ‘growth’? That is because uncapping bonuses and reducing taxes is the very opposite of what is required to improve productivity. Not a single credible economist believes in the concept of trickle down because it has been proven through history that people at the top stash money or spend it overseas in property, yachts and other assets that foes not benefit this country. An economy can only work when the people at the bottom have money because they spend it locally. If the local economy It’s are functioning, then the national economy looks after itself. It is ludicrous to suggest that everyone should be paid the same but the current gap between rich and poor is unsustainable for the economy now and it will only get worse with the measures that Truss is proposing. For all the complaints that people had about Blair/Brown, we were all relatively richer (GDP per capita) then than we are now and our NHS was in a far better place than it is now. As you get older, you realise that there are no new ideas, concepts and policies come and go and some get championed two or three times throughout your life. The big takeaway that I have from watching politics for 40+ years is that it is ordinary people who make a country tick. Look after the vast majority of ordinary citizens and the country will prosper. Pandering to lobby groups and vested interests will always end in failure. | |||
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"This trip will kill her She has already shot herself in the foot with the British media on day 1 and as I understand she will meet Biden tomorrow and then make a speech at the UN. And no trade deal with the US, what a shit PM, utterly useless and a spanner to boot." TBF, if we aren't front of the queue, that's on previous PMs. | |||
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"This trip will kill her She has already shot herself in the foot with the British media on day 1 and as I understand she will meet Biden tomorrow and then make a speech at the UN. for many years the Tory's have perused austerity & balancing the books when it was cheap to borrow money. now interest rates are on the way up they want to borrow & throw out the rule book . I hope not, I want our PM to do the best job possible! I don't wish to relish in a possibility of her failing to build confidence on a world stage. A lack of world confidence in our PM will lead to further impacts on people in the UK who are less able to afford it. However if failure of a UK PM is the thing that keeps people happy, who am I to argue. If a PM says she is prepared to be unpopular what do you think that means? Politicians become unpopular when they demonstrably act against the interest of the people that they represent. She is ready to act, and in fact already is acting against the interest of the overwhelming majority of people in this country." | |||
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"This trip will kill her She has already shot herself in the foot with the British media on day 1 and as I understand she will meet Biden tomorrow and then make a speech at the UN. I hope not, I want our PM to do the best job possible! I don't wish to relish in a possibility of her failing to build confidence on a world stage. A lack of world confidence in our PM will lead to further impacts on people in the UK who are less able to afford it. However if failure of a UK PM is the thing that keeps people happy, who am I to argue. If a PM says she is prepared to be unpopular what do you think that means? Politicians become unpopular when they demonstrably act against the interest of the people that they represent. She is ready to act, and in fact already is acting against the interest of the overwhelming majority of people in this country. Are you speaking for the majority of the country? What is Truss going to get wrong? Factual, not gut feel. Energy loans for consumers - and no intention of getting the energy companies to pay a penny. Tax cuts in the face of an NHS that is barely functioning. Championing the cause of a high wage economy, as long as it is not Civil Servants, Doctors, Nurses, Teachers etc etc. Today she will make a speech that President Biden has already trolled. She will extol the benefits of trickle down economics - a discredited economic theory that suggests that wealth at the very top of society eventually trickles down to benefit everyone. It is both insulting to those at the bottom suggesting that they should be content with crumbs and it is incorrect conceptually. When will you be happy with the decision making, and why do you believe you know better than the advisors and strategists employed to support us? I asked this question on another thread... Do you think everyone should be paid the same? What a strange response…. The Conservatives will get voted out at the next election because Truss has been appointed to conduct an economic strategy that was pursued by Ronald Reagan (and others) and it has never worked before. Have you not noticed the sudden change of language from ‘productivity’ to ‘growth’? That is because uncapping bonuses and reducing taxes is the very opposite of what is required to improve productivity. Not a single credible economist believes in the concept of trickle down because it has been proven through history that people at the top stash money or spend it overseas in property, yachts and other assets that foes not benefit this country. An economy can only work when the people at the bottom have money because they spend it locally. If the local economy It’s are functioning, then the national economy looks after itself. It is ludicrous to suggest that everyone should be paid the same but the current gap between rich and poor is unsustainable for the economy now and it will only get worse with the measures that Truss is proposing. For all the complaints that people had about Blair/Brown, we were all relatively richer (GDP per capita) then than we are now and our NHS was in a far better place than it is now. As you get older, you realise that there are no new ideas, concepts and policies come and go and some get championed two or three times throughout your life. The big takeaway that I have from watching politics for 40+ years is that it is ordinary people who make a country tick. Look after the vast majority of ordinary citizens and the country will prosper. Pandering to lobby groups and vested interests will always end in failure." I didn't think it was strange response, simple question when will you be happy with the decision making. I'm still not sure you answered the question, you have told me what is wrong again but not what needs to happen for you to be happy??? Another question: How do you feel about the help for millions of people to pay their energy bills, the payments that have already been made and the energy cap? Those earning more will be paying more tax and paying this debt off. Is that not a fair way to pay it back? Everyone in the country paying proportionally to their earnings? | |||
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"those earning more will now be paying less tax under trussenomics" Everybody earning will be paying less tax | |||
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"those earning more will now be paying less tax under trussenomics Everybody earning will be paying less tax" you said they would be paying nore in your last post. you need to make your mind up on wether they are paying more tax or less tax and not just spout stuff when it suits. | |||
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".......... what needs to happen for you to be happy??? Another question: How do you feel about the help for millions of people to pay their energy bills, the payments that have already been made and the energy cap? Those earning more will be paying more tax and paying this debt off. Is that not a fair way to pay it back? Everyone in the country paying proportionally to their earnings? " 1) Taxes need to be increased and the entire tax code needs reviewing to ensure that the wealth divide is narrowed. Unearned income, wealth and non-dom loopholes all need closing and Executive Pay should never be able to be more than a set multiple of the lowest paid in a Company. 2) The energy companies should be paying a windfall tax. Their unearned income has not been delivered through increased productivity or efficiency - they have simply and unnaturally profited from global events. It's not right that their Executives and shareholders should reap the rewards because of a war. 3) Do a little research and ask yourself why this country (which was amongst the least dependent on Russian gas in the whole of Europe) is facing the highest energy charges. | |||
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"those earning more will now be paying less tax under trussenomics Everybody earning will be paying less tax you said they would be paying nore in your last post. you need to make your mind up on wether they are paying more tax or less tax and not just spout stuff when it suits." The high earners pay more tax than a low earners, it isn't that hard to workout is it? | |||
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".......... what needs to happen for you to be happy??? Another question: How do you feel about the help for millions of people to pay their energy bills, the payments that have already been made and the energy cap? Those earning more will be paying more tax and paying this debt off. Is that not a fair way to pay it back? Everyone in the country paying proportionally to their earnings? 1) Taxes need to be increased and the entire tax code needs reviewing to ensure that the wealth divide is narrowed. Unearned income, wealth and non-dom loopholes all need closing and Executive Pay should never be able to be more than a set multiple of the lowest paid in a Company. 2) The energy companies should be paying a windfall tax. Their unearned income has not been delivered through increased productivity or efficiency - they have simply and unnaturally profited from global events. It's not right that their Executives and shareholders should reap the rewards because of a war. 3) Do a little research and ask yourself why this country (which was amongst the least dependent on Russian gas in the whole of Europe) is facing the highest energy charges." Why blame the energy companies when the UK government shutdown gas storage facilities in 2017. Those facilities being shutdown caused no reserves so now the UK at the mercy of market fluctuations. | |||
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".......... what needs to happen for you to be happy??? Another question: How do you feel about the help for millions of people to pay their energy bills, the payments that have already been made and the energy cap? Those earning more will be paying more tax and paying this debt off. Is that not a fair way to pay it back? Everyone in the country paying proportionally to their earnings? 1) Taxes need to be increased and the entire tax code needs reviewing to ensure that the wealth divide is narrowed. Unearned income, wealth and non-dom loopholes all need closing and Executive Pay should never be able to be more than a set multiple of the lowest paid in a Company. 2) The energy companies should be paying a windfall tax. Their unearned income has not been delivered through increased productivity or efficiency - they have simply and unnaturally profited from global events. It's not right that their Executives and shareholders should reap the rewards because of a war. 3) Do a little research and ask yourself why this country (which was amongst the least dependent on Russian gas in the whole of Europe) is facing the highest energy charges." Putting tax up on higher earners and lower tax for low earners? Is that what you are saying? I know I would not want to pay more tax than I'm paying now, why would I? In my job I can relocate outside of the UK and I would if I was forced into paying more tax. I would not be alone in making a decision like that. Windfall tax on the energy companies I can see as a positive move and one that should be looked into further, by the government. | |||
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"This trip will kill her She has already shot herself in the foot with the British media on day 1 and as I understand she will meet Biden tomorrow and then make a speech at the UN. I hope not, I want our PM to do the best job possible! I don't wish to relish in a possibility of her failing to build confidence on a world stage. A lack of world confidence in our PM will lead to further impacts on people in the UK who are less able to afford it. However if failure of a UK PM is the thing that keeps people happy, who am I to argue. If a PM says she is prepared to be unpopular what do you think that means? Politicians become unpopular when they demonstrably act against the interest of the people that they represent. She is ready to act, and in fact already is acting against the interest of the overwhelming majority of people in this country. Are you speaking for the majority of the country? What is Truss going to get wrong? Factual, not gut feel. Energy loans for consumers - and no intention of getting the energy companies to pay a penny. Tax cuts in the face of an NHS that is barely functioning. Championing the cause of a high wage economy, as long as it is not Civil Servants, Doctors, Nurses, Teachers etc etc. Today she will make a speech that President Biden has already trolled. She will extol the benefits of trickle down economics - a discredited economic theory that suggests that wealth at the very top of society eventually trickles down to benefit everyone. It is both insulting to those at the bottom suggesting that they should be content with crumbs and it is incorrect conceptually. When will you be happy with the decision making, and why do you believe you know better than the advisors and strategists employed to support us? I asked this question on another thread... Do you think everyone should be paid the same? What a strange response…. The Conservatives will get voted out at the next election because Truss has been appointed to conduct an economic strategy that was pursued by Ronald Reagan (and others) and it has never worked before. Have you not noticed the sudden change of language from ‘productivity’ to ‘growth’? That is because uncapping bonuses and reducing taxes is the very opposite of what is required to improve productivity. Not a single credible economist believes in the concept of trickle down because it has been proven through history that people at the top stash money or spend it overseas in property, yachts and other assets that foes not benefit this country. An economy can only work when the people at the bottom have money because they spend it locally. If the local economy It’s are functioning, then the national economy looks after itself. It is ludicrous to suggest that everyone should be paid the same but the current gap between rich and poor is unsustainable for the economy now and it will only get worse with the measures that Truss is proposing. For all the complaints that people had about Blair/Brown, we were all relatively richer (GDP per capita) then than we are now and our NHS was in a far better place than it is now. As you get older, you realise that there are no new ideas, concepts and policies come and go and some get championed two or three times throughout your life. The big takeaway that I have from watching politics for 40+ years is that it is ordinary people who make a country tick. Look after the vast majority of ordinary citizens and the country will prosper. Pandering to lobby groups and vested interests will always end in failure. I didn't think it was strange response, simple question when will you be happy with the decision making. I'm still not sure you answered the question, you have told me what is wrong again but not what needs to happen for you to be happy??? Another question: How do you feel about the help for millions of people to pay their energy bills, the payments that have already been made and the energy cap? Those earning more will be paying more tax and paying this debt off. Is that not a fair way to pay it back? Everyone in the country paying proportionally to their earnings? "  | |||
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"Surely the debate re tax has to be had in the context if public services? If you ask: Q. Do you want to pay more tax? A. I doubt anyone would say yes! If you ask: Q. If public services could deliver XYZ with £xx extra funding so would you be prepared to pay more tax? A. I bet a surprising number of people would say yes. Just look at the Scandinavian countries and the Netherlands. Consistently voted the happiest and most content countries in the world. They have pretty high tax but excellent public services.* *yep I know someone might say what about Sweden in the last few weeks but look at the long term trends." I agree that if a tax increase improved the infrastructure and services to a measurable and meaningful position, I would be more likely to sign up to that. However, if it was as suggested a tax increase to supplement the shortfall in other peoples incomes, ie, closing the gap on high to low earnings by taxing the upper, that is flat no and time to leave. That way of thinking has never worked and never will, in my opinion. | |||
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"those earning more will now be paying less tax under trussenomics Everybody earning will be paying less tax you said they would be paying nore in your last post. you need to make your mind up on wether they are paying more tax or less tax and not just spout stuff when it suits. The high earners pay more tax than a low earners, it isn't that hard to workout is it? " I’m sure it’s the same in the UK, but generally speaking people who ‘work’ for a living, ie, on PAYE have no choice in the amount of tax they pay (generally speaking) However, people on large salaries, self employed, large business owners, ceo’s of banking institutions or multinational companies have reams of people working for them, who’s sole job is to make sure they pay very little or no tax. That’s how the system works, people who earn less may pay less, but people who earn more sometimes pay ZERO... It’s not really that difficult to grasp. | |||
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"those earning more will now be paying less tax under trussenomics Everybody earning will be paying less tax you said they would be paying nore in your last post. you need to make your mind up on wether they are paying more tax or less tax and not just spout stuff when it suits. The high earners pay more tax than a low earners, it isn't that hard to workout is it? I’m sure it’s the same in the UK, but generally speaking people who ‘work’ for a living, ie, on PAYE have no choice in the amount of tax they pay (generally speaking) However, people on large salaries, self employed, large business owners, ceo’s of banking institutions or multinational companies have reams of people working for them, who’s sole job is to make sure they pay very little or no tax. That’s how the system works, people who earn less may pay less, but people who earn more sometimes pay ZERO... It’s not really that difficult to grasp." You are talking about a very small amount of people compared to the numbers of PAYE. Loopholes in dividends and being a ltd company working on a contract outside of IR35 have been buried. I'm sure you will bring up bankers bonuses and have evidence of a fat cat millionaire with offshore funds, but you will be spouting second hand stories based on ear say. Bring the figures to the table, numbers facts. | |||
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"And no trade deal with the US, what a shit PM, utterly useless and a spanner to boot." "TBF, if we aren't front of the queue, that's on previous PMs. " We were at the front of the queue. If Trump had been re-elected we'd probably have our trade deal by now. But he wasn't, and Biden got in instead. Biden likes to think that he's Irish, and hates the British. We won't get any sort of deal while he's in power. | |||
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"those earning more will now be paying less tax under trussenomics Everybody earning will be paying less tax you said they would be paying nore in your last post. you need to make your mind up on wether they are paying more tax or less tax and not just spout stuff when it suits. The high earners pay more tax than a low earners, it isn't that hard to workout is it? I’m sure it’s the same in the UK, but generally speaking people who ‘work’ for a living, ie, on PAYE have no choice in the amount of tax they pay (generally speaking) However, people on large salaries, self employed, large business owners, ceo’s of banking institutions or multinational companies have reams of people working for them, who’s sole job is to make sure they pay very little or no tax. That’s how the system works, people who earn less may pay less, but people who earn more sometimes pay ZERO... It’s not really that difficult to grasp. You are talking about a very small amount of people compared to the numbers of PAYE. Loopholes in dividends and being a ltd company working on a contract outside of IR35 have been buried. I'm sure you will bring up bankers bonuses and have evidence of a fat cat millionaire with offshore funds, but you will be spouting second hand stories based on ear say. Bring the figures to the table, numbers facts. " None so blind as those who choose not to see. | |||
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".......... what needs to happen for you to be happy??? Another question: How do you feel about the help for millions of people to pay their energy bills, the payments that have already been made and the energy cap? Those earning more will be paying more tax and paying this debt off. Is that not a fair way to pay it back? Everyone in the country paying proportionally to their earnings? 1) Taxes need to be increased and the entire tax code needs reviewing to ensure that the wealth divide is narrowed. Unearned income, wealth and non-dom loopholes all need closing and Executive Pay should never be able to be more than a set multiple of the lowest paid in a Company. 2) The energy companies should be paying a windfall tax. Their unearned income has not been delivered through increased productivity or efficiency - they have simply and unnaturally profited from global events. It's not right that their Executives and shareholders should reap the rewards because of a war. 3) Do a little research and ask yourself why this country (which was amongst the least dependent on Russian gas in the whole of Europe) is facing the highest energy charges." Point 3) was pointed out to me a few weeks ago and seen no explanation for this. Surely there has to be higher taxes for the energy companies. Aware they will say all the profit is reinvested. This needs to be presented maybe to the Select committee (unless they are shareholders). | |||
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"And no trade deal with the US, what a shit PM, utterly useless and a spanner to boot. TBF, if we aren't front of the queue, that's on previous PMs. We were at the front of the queue. If Trump had been re-elected we'd probably have our trade deal by now. But he wasn't, and Biden got in instead. Biden likes to think that he's Irish, and hates the British. We won't get any sort of deal while he's in power." Trump would have shafted the UK just like he tries to shaft anyone he deals with | |||
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"And no trade deal with the US, what a shit PM, utterly useless and a spanner to boot. TBF, if we aren't front of the queue, that's on previous PMs. We were at the front of the queue. If Trump had been re-elected we'd probably have our trade deal by now. But he wasn't, and Biden got in instead. Biden likes to think that he's Irish, and hates the British. We won't get any sort of deal while he's in power. Trump would have shafted the UK just like he tries to shaft anyone he deals with " Well you don't like our chlorinated food sooo. Brexit was self inflicted. | |||
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"And no trade deal with the US, what a shit PM, utterly useless and a spanner to boot. TBF, if we aren't front of the queue, that's on previous PMs. We were at the front of the queue. If Trump had been re-elected we'd probably have our trade deal by now. But he wasn't, and Biden got in instead. Biden likes to think that he's Irish, and hates the British. We won't get any sort of deal while he's in power. Trump would have shafted the UK just like he tries to shaft anyone he deals with Well you don't like our chlorinated food sooo. Brexit was self inflicted." Correct , | |||
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"And no trade deal with the US, what a shit PM, utterly useless and a spanner to boot. TBF, if we aren't front of the queue, that's on previous PMs. We were at the front of the queue. If Trump had been re-elected we'd probably have our trade deal by now. But he wasn't, and Biden got in instead. Biden likes to think that he's Irish, and hates the British. We won't get any sort of deal while he's in power. Trump would have shafted the UK just like he tries to shaft anyone he deals with Well you don't like our chlorinated food sooo. Brexit was self inflicted." It's the hormone pumped meat and dairy that's the real problem. But yes, brexit is self inflicted. | |||
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"those earning more will now be paying less tax under trussenomics Everybody earning will be paying less tax you said they would be paying nore in your last post. you need to make your mind up on wether they are paying more tax or less tax and not just spout stuff when it suits. The high earners pay more tax than a low earners, it isn't that hard to workout is it? " you wouldn't think so, which leaves everyone wondering why you've contradicted yourself so many times on this thread alone, if it is, as you've claimed, not that hard to work out. | |||
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"those earning more will now be paying less tax under trussenomics Everybody earning will be paying less tax you said they would be paying nore in your last post. you need to make your mind up on wether they are paying more tax or less tax and not just spout stuff when it suits. The high earners pay more tax than a low earners, it isn't that hard to workout is it? I’m sure it’s the same in the UK, but generally speaking people who ‘work’ for a living, ie, on PAYE have no choice in the amount of tax they pay (generally speaking) However, people on large salaries, self employed, large business owners, ceo’s of banking institutions or multinational companies have reams of people working for them, who’s sole job is to make sure they pay very little or no tax. That’s how the system works, people who earn less may pay less, but people who earn more sometimes pay ZERO... It’s not really that difficult to grasp. You are talking about a very small amount of people compared to the numbers of PAYE. Loopholes in dividends and being a ltd company working on a contract outside of IR35 have been buried. I'm sure you will bring up bankers bonuses and have evidence of a fat cat millionaire with offshore funds, but you will be spouting second hand stories based on ear say. Bring the figures to the table, numbers facts. " Not sure how up to date this is but according to wiki, 25% of all income tax revenue is paid by the top 1% of earners. Also 90% of all income tax revenue is paid by the top 50% of earners. | |||
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"those earning more will now be paying less tax under trussenomics" "Everybody earning will be paying less tax" "you said they would be paying nore in your last post. you need to make your mind up on wether they are paying more tax or less tax and not just spout stuff when it suits." "The high earners pay more tax than a low earners, it isn't that hard to workout is it?" "you wouldn't think so, which leaves everyone wondering why you've contradicted yourself so many times on this thread alone, if it is, as you've claimed, not that hard to work out. " Originally he said "Those earning more will be paying more tax and paying this debt off". Clearly he was saying that higher earners pay more tax than lower earners. Then he said "Everybody earning will be paying less tax", which is obviously true since the tax rate has gone down. It's only confusing if you cherry pick your quotes, and don't bother to read the context. | |||
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"those earning more will now be paying less tax under trussenomics Everybody earning will be paying less tax you said they would be paying nore in your last post. you need to make your mind up on wether they are paying more tax or less tax and not just spout stuff when it suits. The high earners pay more tax than a low earners, it isn't that hard to workout is it? you wouldn't think so, which leaves everyone wondering why you've contradicted yourself so many times on this thread alone, if it is, as you've claimed, not that hard to work out. Originally he said "Those earning more will be paying more tax and paying this debt off". Clearly he was saying that higher earners pay more tax than lower earners. Then he said "Everybody earning will be paying less tax", which is obviously true since the tax rate has gone down. It's only confusing if you cherry pick your quotes, and don't bother to read the context." if you and your damsel in distress are going to cherry pick nonsense then we can all safely ignore your nonsense. | |||
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"those earning more will now be paying less tax under trussenomics" "Everybody earning will be paying less tax" "you said they would be paying nore in your last post. you need to make your mind up on wether they are paying more tax or less tax and not just spout stuff when it suits." "The high earners pay more tax than a low earners, it isn't that hard to workout is it?" "you wouldn't think so, which leaves everyone wondering why you've contradicted yourself so many times on this thread alone, if it is, as you've claimed, not that hard to work out." "Originally he said "Those earning more will be paying more tax and paying this debt off". Clearly he was saying that higher earners pay more tax than lower earners. Then he said "Everybody earning will be paying less tax", which is obviously true since the tax rate has gone down. It's only confusing if you cherry pick your quotes, and don't bother to read the context." "if you and your damsel in distress are going to cherry pick nonsense then we can all safely ignore your nonsense." Feel free to go back through this thread and point out to us all anywhere that I or the other bloke have done any cherry-picking. I'll happily apologise for every example you find. | |||
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"those earning more will now be paying less tax under trussenomics Everybody earning will be paying less tax you said they would be paying nore in your last post. you need to make your mind up on wether they are paying more tax or less tax and not just spout stuff when it suits. The high earners pay more tax than a low earners, it isn't that hard to workout is it? you wouldn't think so, which leaves everyone wondering why you've contradicted yourself so many times on this thread alone, if it is, as you've claimed, not that hard to work out. Originally he said "Those earning more will be paying more tax and paying this debt off". Clearly he was saying that higher earners pay more tax than lower earners. Then he said "Everybody earning will be paying less tax", which is obviously true since the tax rate has gone down. It's only confusing if you cherry pick your quotes, and don't bother to read the context. if you and your damsel in distress are going to cherry pick nonsense then we can all safely ignore your nonsense. "Oh the irony is strong here.... you do make yourself standout don't you. | |||
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"those earning more will now be paying less tax under trussenomics Everybody earning will be paying less tax you said they would be paying nore in your last post. you need to make your mind up on wether they are paying more tax or less tax and not just spout stuff when it suits. The high earners pay more tax than a low earners, it isn't that hard to workout is it? I’m sure it’s the same in the UK, but generally speaking people who ‘work’ for a living, ie, on PAYE have no choice in the amount of tax they pay (generally speaking) However, people on large salaries, self employed, large business owners, ceo’s of banking institutions or multinational companies have reams of people working for them, who’s sole job is to make sure they pay very little or no tax. That’s how the system works, people who earn less may pay less, but people who earn more sometimes pay ZERO... It’s not really that difficult to grasp. You are talking about a very small amount of people compared to the numbers of PAYE. Loopholes in dividends and being a ltd company working on a contract outside of IR35 have been buried. I'm sure you will bring up bankers bonuses and have evidence of a fat cat millionaire with offshore funds, but you will be spouting second hand stories based on ear say. Bring the figures to the table, numbers facts. Not sure how up to date this is but according to wiki, 25% of all income tax revenue is paid by the top 1% of earners. Also 90% of all income tax revenue is paid by the top 50% of earners. " All PAYE or paying the correct tax returns. | |||
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"those earning more will now be paying less tax under trussenomics Everybody earning will be paying less tax you said they would be paying nore in your last post. you need to make your mind up on wether they are paying more tax or less tax and not just spout stuff when it suits. The high earners pay more tax than a low earners, it isn't that hard to workout is it? I’m sure it’s the same in the UK, but generally speaking people who ‘work’ for a living, ie, on PAYE have no choice in the amount of tax they pay (generally speaking) However, people on large salaries, self employed, large business owners, ceo’s of banking institutions or multinational companies have reams of people working for them, who’s sole job is to make sure they pay very little or no tax. That’s how the system works, people who earn less may pay less, but people who earn more sometimes pay ZERO... It’s not really that difficult to grasp. You are talking about a very small amount of people compared to the numbers of PAYE. Loopholes in dividends and being a ltd company working on a contract outside of IR35 have been buried. I'm sure you will bring up bankers bonuses and have evidence of a fat cat millionaire with offshore funds, but you will be spouting second hand stories based on ear say. Bring the figures to the table, numbers facts. Not sure how up to date this is but according to wiki, 25% of all income tax revenue is paid by the top 1% of earners. Also 90% of all income tax revenue is paid by the top 50% of earners. All PAYE or paying the correct tax returns." It does not specify. It just uses the term top x% of all income tax revenue. I'm not sure if just paye or if it includes self employed ect | |||
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"those earning more will now be paying less tax under trussenomics Everybody earning will be paying less tax you said they would be paying nore in your last post. you need to make your mind up on wether they are paying more tax or less tax and not just spout stuff when it suits. The high earners pay more tax than a low earners, it isn't that hard to workout is it? I’m sure it’s the same in the UK, but generally speaking people who ‘work’ for a living, ie, on PAYE have no choice in the amount of tax they pay (generally speaking) However, people on large salaries, self employed, large business owners, ceo’s of banking institutions or multinational companies have reams of people working for them, who’s sole job is to make sure they pay very little or no tax. That’s how the system works, people who earn less may pay less, but people who earn more sometimes pay ZERO... It’s not really that difficult to grasp. You are talking about a very small amount of people compared to the numbers of PAYE. Loopholes in dividends and being a ltd company working on a contract outside of IR35 have been buried. I'm sure you will bring up bankers bonuses and have evidence of a fat cat millionaire with offshore funds, but you will be spouting second hand stories based on ear say. Bring the figures to the table, numbers facts. Not sure how up to date this is but according to wiki, 25% of all income tax revenue is paid by the top 1% of earners. Also 90% of all income tax revenue is paid by the top 50% of earners. All PAYE or paying the correct tax returns. It does not specify. It just uses the term top x% of all income tax revenue. I'm not sure if just paye or if it includes self employed ect" | |||
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"This trip will kill her She has already shot herself in the foot with the British media on day 1 and as I understand she will meet Biden tomorrow and then make a speech at the UN. " Anyone who is awake will look good next to Biden. | |||
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