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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

https://fb.watch/fy90QPhbrV/

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By *atssleepanywhereTV/TS
over a year ago

Wolverhampton

Rather than posting a link which is likely a mainline to malware why don't you post the title of the post and the name of the channel.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

https://youtu.be/pq9jIGPRWJA sorry I was annoyed..

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

Off topic but Blu you have not replied on the NHS thread after saying you do not like the NHS and prefer your private medical insurance. I assume you just missed these questions as they thread got quite long but genuinely interested to hear your thoughts....

"TBH I don't like the NHS. The wait times are horrible in dire situations for your loved ones. But hey it's the Uk pride and joy . I'll stick with my privatized. I know my family gets the care that they need in a emergency."

I’m curious. Can you give a ball park figure for how much the average monthly health insurance payment is?

Also, are you locked in to one insurance provider? What I mean by that is if you got ill tomorrow, got treatment paid by insurer, if next year you wanted to change to a new insurance provider, would they cover you for that illness? My understanding is they would not as they would class that as a pre-existing condition. So that locks you in to current insurer who xan then start increasing your premiums as you are now a higher risk.

What about the insurer providing cover for hereditary conditions? Lifestyle related conditions (smoking related cancer for example)?

Also does the insurer have an upper limit on what they will pay out? Does that apply to primary and secondary care? If your new conditions results in being on a cocktail of drugs for rest of life, does the insurer pay for that?

Thanks

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

So glad I don't live in the US.

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By *uninlondon69Man
over a year ago

Tower Bridge South


"So glad I don't live in the US."

Over the last 30 years I've barely used the NHS and private health cover would have been an extravagance. I broke my arm a couple of weeks ago though. A&E treatment included x-rays and a cast. Follow up was operation, overnight stay for monitoring, pain control and upcoming further x-rays, re-dressing, physio etc. All on the NHS. An accident in the wrong country could cost you your home.

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"So glad I don't live in the US."

Why?

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields


"So glad I don't live in the US.

Over the last 30 years I've barely used the NHS and private health cover would have been an extravagance. I broke my arm a couple of weeks ago though. A&E treatment included x-rays and a cast. Follow up was operation, overnight stay for monitoring, pain control and upcoming further x-rays, re-dressing, physio etc. All on the NHS. An accident in the wrong country could cost you your home."

Absolutely.

And I don't want to live in a country where murder, mass murder and mass murder of children is normalised.

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"So glad I don't live in the US.

Over the last 30 years I've barely used the NHS and private health cover would have been an extravagance. I broke my arm a couple of weeks ago though. A&E treatment included x-rays and a cast. Follow up was operation, overnight stay for monitoring, pain control and upcoming further x-rays, re-dressing, physio etc. All on the NHS. An accident in the wrong country could cost you your home."

It wasn't a free service you received from the NHS.

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By *uninlondon69Man
over a year ago

Tower Bridge South


"

It wasn't a free service you received from the NHS."

When can I expect the 6 figure bill then?

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"

It wasn't a free service you received from the NHS.

When can I expect the 6 figure bill then?"

You wont get a bill, it was already paid for, part of the £190 billion the NHS received from Tax payers in 2021 - 2022

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By *uninlondon69Man
over a year ago

Tower Bridge South


"It wasn't a free service you received from the NHS.

When can I expect the 6 figure bill then?

You wont get a bill, it was already paid for, part of the £190 billion the NHS received from Tax payers in 2021 - 2022 "

They don't pay taxes in the US then?

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton


"So glad I don't live in the US.

Over the last 30 years I've barely used the NHS and private health cover would have been an extravagance. I broke my arm a couple of weeks ago though. A&E treatment included x-rays and a cast. Follow up was operation, overnight stay for monitoring, pain control and upcoming further x-rays, re-dressing, physio etc. All on the NHS. An accident in the wrong country could cost you your home.

It wasn't a free service you received from the NHS."

No it was paid for as an equal proportion of our tax and national insurance payments. However, the service received didn’t reflect the actual amount paid so it is great value for poorer people and those who would be unable to afford private medical insurance. Can’t see what’s not to like?

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"It wasn't a free service you received from the NHS.

When can I expect the 6 figure bill then?

You wont get a bill, it was already paid for, part of the £190 billion the NHS received from Tax payers in 2021 - 2022

They don't pay taxes in the US then?

"

I wasn't talking about the US, I was responding to your post about the NHS.

If you have been working for the last 30 years and not used the NHS you have still been paying for the service.

The NHS is not a free service, far from it.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields


"It wasn't a free service you received from the NHS.

When can I expect the 6 figure bill then?

You wont get a bill, it was already paid for, part of the £190 billion the NHS received from Tax payers in 2021 - 2022

They don't pay taxes in the US then?

"

Most of their tax dollars go straight into their war machine.

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"So glad I don't live in the US.

Over the last 30 years I've barely used the NHS and private health cover would have been an extravagance. I broke my arm a couple of weeks ago though. A&E treatment included x-rays and a cast. Follow up was operation, overnight stay for monitoring, pain control and upcoming further x-rays, re-dressing, physio etc. All on the NHS. An accident in the wrong country could cost you your home.

It wasn't a free service you received from the NHS.

No it was paid for as an equal proportion of our tax and national insurance payments. However, the service received didn’t reflect the actual amount paid so it is great value for poorer people and those who would be unable to afford private medical insurance. Can’t see what’s not to like?"

I didn't say there was nothing to like

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By *uninlondon69Man
over a year ago

Tower Bridge South


"It wasn't a free service you received from the NHS.

When can I expect the 6 figure bill then?

You wont get a bill, it was already paid for, part of the £190 billion the NHS received from Tax payers in 2021 - 2022

They don't pay taxes in the US then?

I wasn't talking about the US, I was responding to your post about the NHS.

If you have been working for the last 30 years and not used the NHS you have still been paying for the service.

The NHS is not a free service, far from it."

Nobody is claiming it hasn't been paid for. I won't be homeless as a result of a broken bone though. It's not perfect and there are obviously incredible amounts of waste and countless ways it could be improved, but just like the fire brigade I hope I never need them but it's great to have them there when you do.

Can you imagine if the fire brigade sent you a bill after putting your house out?

£ based on the amount of water used, wear and tear on ladders, surcharges based on the % of your house they saved, number of appliances required, add a zero on the end if you have/had a thatched roof.

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"It wasn't a free service you received from the NHS.

When can I expect the 6 figure bill then?

You wont get a bill, it was already paid for, part of the £190 billion the NHS received from Tax payers in 2021 - 2022

They don't pay taxes in the US then?

I wasn't talking about the US, I was responding to your post about the NHS.

If you have been working for the last 30 years and not used the NHS you have still been paying for the service.

The NHS is not a free service, far from it.

Nobody is claiming it hasn't been paid for. I won't be homeless as a result of a broken bone though. It's not perfect and there are obviously incredible amounts of waste and countless ways it could be improved, but just like the fire brigade I hope I never need them but it's great to have them there when you do.

Can you imagine if the fire brigade sent you a bill after putting your house out?

£ based on the amount of water used, wear and tear on ladders, surcharges based on the % of your house they saved, number of appliances required, add a zero on the end if you have/had a thatched roof."

The Met fire brigade was actually formed because insurance companies were going to pull out of London because of the costs.

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By *uninlondon69Man
over a year ago

Tower Bridge South


"Can you imagine if the fire brigade sent you a bill after putting your house out?

£ based on the amount of water used, wear and tear on ladders, surcharges based on the % of your house they saved, number of appliances required, add a zero on the end if you have/had a thatched roof.

The Met fire brigade was actually formed because insurance companies were going to pull out of London because of the costs. "

That is something I didn't know. This place is occasionally educational, not just full of arguments!

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton


"So glad I don't live in the US.

Over the last 30 years I've barely used the NHS and private health cover would have been an extravagance. I broke my arm a couple of weeks ago though. A&E treatment included x-rays and a cast. Follow up was operation, overnight stay for monitoring, pain control and upcoming further x-rays, re-dressing, physio etc. All on the NHS. An accident in the wrong country could cost you your home.

It wasn't a free service you received from the NHS.

No it was paid for as an equal proportion of our tax and national insurance payments. However, the service received didn’t reflect the actual amount paid so it is great value for poorer people and those who would be unable to afford private medical insurance. Can’t see what’s not to like?

I didn't say there was nothing to like"

I know YOU weren’t but I used your post as a springboard for when the usual suspects turn up

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol

The NHS is free at the point of service, you could pay your NI as a average person all of your working life and it would in average a fraction of the cost of treatment that you might need as you get older or indeed if you have a serious incident

It could just be better run

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And I don't want to live in a country where murder, mass murder and mass murder of children is normalised."

Glass houses. Children over here are stabbing each other over petty slights. The UK certainly isn't better than the US by any stretch of the imagination.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And I don't want to live in a country where murder, mass murder and mass murder of children is normalised.

Glass houses. Children over here are stabbing each other over petty slights. The UK certainly isn't better than the US by any stretch of the imagination."

Your opinion, but reality says something else.

https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/United-Kingdom/United-States/Crime/Violent-crime

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And I don't want to live in a country where murder, mass murder and mass murder of children is normalised.

Glass houses. Children over here are stabbing each other over petty slights. The UK certainly isn't better than the US by any stretch of the imagination."

The crime rates are far far lower here than in the USA

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields


"And I don't want to live in a country where murder, mass murder and mass murder of children is normalised.

Glass houses. Children over here are stabbing each other over petty slights. The UK certainly isn't better than the US by any stretch of the imagination."

You really believe that?

In 2022 so far.

113 school shootings.

41 deaths and 82 injuries.

UK. Zero.

Sure, we have problems, but to suggest it's comparable to the US is pretty bonkers.

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton


"And I don't want to live in a country where murder, mass murder and mass murder of children is normalised.

Glass houses. Children over here are stabbing each other over petty slights. The UK certainly isn't better than the US by any stretch of the imagination.

You really believe that?

In 2022 so far.

113 school shootings.

41 deaths and 82 injuries.

UK. Zero.

Sure, we have problems, but to suggest it's comparable to the US is pretty bonkers.

"

Is there a correlation between states that are pro gun and anti abortion? Is there then any correlation with those states with the highest number of children killed in school massacres?

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"And I don't want to live in a country where murder, mass murder and mass murder of children is normalised.

Glass houses. Children over here are stabbing each other over petty slights. The UK certainly isn't better than the US by any stretch of the imagination.

You really believe that?

In 2022 so far.

113 school shootings.

41 deaths and 82 injuries.

UK. Zero.

Sure, we have problems, but to suggest it's comparable to the US is pretty bonkers.

"

The US is such a huge country and so diverse that it wouldn't surprise me if there are cities, towns and even states that are have less crime and better standards of living than the UK.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields


"And I don't want to live in a country where murder, mass murder and mass murder of children is normalised.

Glass houses. Children over here are stabbing each other over petty slights. The UK certainly isn't better than the US by any stretch of the imagination.

You really believe that?

In 2022 so far.

113 school shootings.

41 deaths and 82 injuries.

UK. Zero.

Sure, we have problems, but to suggest it's comparable to the US is pretty bonkers.

Is there a correlation between states that are pro gun and anti abortion? Is there then any correlation with those states with the highest number of children killed in school massacres? "

The NRA often suggest that cities within America that have less guns have more gun crime. But the stats don't agree, except for some anomalies.

As for school shootings. It's harrowing reading. But there is a site called "everytown research" that records the incidents plus number of children getting shot and killed. Seems randomly spread year on year.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields


"And I don't want to live in a country where murder, mass murder and mass murder of children is normalised.

Glass houses. Children over here are stabbing each other over petty slights. The UK certainly isn't better than the US by any stretch of the imagination.

You really believe that?

In 2022 so far.

113 school shootings.

41 deaths and 82 injuries.

UK. Zero.

Sure, we have problems, but to suggest it's comparable to the US is pretty bonkers.

The US is such a huge country and so diverse that it wouldn't surprise me if there are cities, towns and even states that are have less crime and better standards of living than the UK."

I've spent a lot of time there. The big cities are safer.

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood


"

It wasn't a free service you received from the NHS.

When can I expect the 6 figure bill then?"

you have been paying for it your whole working life, like yourself i not used the nhs in over 20years unfortunatley earlier this year i was unfortunate enough to spend 3weeks in icu and a further week on a normal ward, cant fault the nurses that looked after me but is wronv to say its free we all pay fir it wether we use it or not

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