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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I am concerned about a few things..

The intended target who burst into the house won't "grass" on the killer - can't he be prosecuted for accessory to murder/assisting a murderer or something by not speaking?

The not snitching rule as reported in the news? What's going on with this country?!

Lastly, if ee get out of the echr rules, could we use drugs and torture on the guy who was chased to talk?

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

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"I am concerned about a few things..

The intended target who burst into the house won't "grass" on the killer - can't he be prosecuted for accessory to murder/assisting a murderer or something by not speaking?

The not snitching rule as reported in the news? What's going on with this country?!

Lastly, if ee get out of the echr rules, could we use drugs and torture on the guy who was chased to talk?

What's EE?

Personally I'm against the state torturing it's citizens and I am in favour of human rights.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

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"I am concerned about a few things..

The intended target who burst into the house won't "grass" on the killer - can't he be prosecuted for accessory to murder/assisting a murderer or something by not speaking?

The not snitching rule as reported in the news? What's going on with this country?!

Lastly, if ee get out of the echr rules, could we use drugs and torture on the guy who was chased to talk?

What's EE?

Personally I'm against the state torturing it's citizens and I am in favour of human rights."

Eastenders

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The letter next to the intended letter

The current situation in Liverpool is shocking

Is the no-snitch “law” really a uk wide problem or does that city suffer from it more than others?

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By *ebjonnsonMan
over a year ago

Maldon

I still struggle to comprehend this. That poor family will never recover.

Let’s hope those behind it are brought to justice.

Let’s hope also that it starts a backlash to end the gang & drug culture that is blighting society. Clearly the police can’t cope .

I’d bring in the army and lock the city down. Root out and smash those involved in illegal activity. A model to roll out elsewhere.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I still struggle to comprehend this. That poor family will never recover.

Let’s hope those behind it are brought to justice.

Let’s hope also that it starts a backlash to end the gang & drug culture that is blighting society. Clearly the police can’t cope .

I’d bring in the army and lock the city down. Root out and smash those involved in illegal activity. A model to roll out elsewhere."

Because that worked out so well in Northern Ireland

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By *ebjonnsonMan
over a year ago

Maldon

"I still struggle to comprehend this. That poor family will never recover.

Let’s hope those behind it are brought to justice.

Let’s hope also that it starts a backlash to end the gang & drug culture that is blighting society. Clearly the police can’t cope .

I’d bring in the army and lock the city down. Root out and smash those involved in illegal activity. A model to roll out elsewhere.

Because that worked out so well in Northern Ireland"

Bit different.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I still struggle to comprehend this. That poor family will never recover.

Let’s hope those behind it are brought to justice.

Let’s hope also that it starts a backlash to end the gang & drug culture that is blighting society. Clearly the police can’t cope .

I’d bring in the army and lock the city down. Root out and smash those involved in illegal activity. A model to roll out elsewhere.

Because that worked out so well in Northern Ireland

Bit different."

How??

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By *ebjonnsonMan
over a year ago

Maldon

"I still struggle to comprehend this. That poor family will never recover.

Let’s hope those behind it are brought to justice.

Let’s hope also that it starts a backlash to end the gang & drug culture that is blighting society. Clearly the police can’t cope .

I’d bring in the army and lock the city down. Root out and smash those involved in illegal activity. A model to roll out elsewhere.

Because that worked out so well in Northern Ireland

Bit different.

How??"

Four times bigger population and a much tougher geography.

While we know the paramilitary groups were involved in organised crime there was also a ‘cause’ supported by sectors of the population.

Not so in Liverpool, as all the good & decent people will rise in support and help drive the scumbags out.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I still struggle to comprehend this. That poor family will never recover.

Let’s hope those behind it are brought to justice.

Let’s hope also that it starts a backlash to end the gang & drug culture that is blighting society. Clearly the police can’t cope .

I’d bring in the army and lock the city down. Root out and smash those involved in illegal activity. A model to roll out elsewhere.

Because that worked out so well in Northern Ireland

Bit different.

How??

Four times bigger population and a much tougher geography.

While we know the paramilitary groups were involved in organised crime there was also a ‘cause’ supported by sectors of the population.

Not so in Liverpool, as all the good & decent people will rise in support and help drive the scumbags out.

Yep, i see someone's been arested

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I still struggle to comprehend this. That poor family will never recover.

Let’s hope those behind it are brought to justice.

Let’s hope also that it starts a backlash to end the gang & drug culture that is blighting society. Clearly the police can’t cope .

I’d bring in the army and lock the city down. Root out and smash those involved in illegal activity. A model to roll out elsewhere.

Because that worked out so well in Northern Ireland

Bit different.

How??

Four times bigger population and a much tougher geography.

While we know the paramilitary groups were involved in organised crime there was also a ‘cause’ supported by sectors of the population.

Not so in Liverpool, as all the good & decent people will rise in support and help drive the scumbags out.

Drive them out?,What are you saying?

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By *ebjonnsonMan
over a year ago

Maldon

"I still struggle to comprehend this. That poor family will never recover.

Let’s hope those behind it are brought to justice.

Let’s hope also that it starts a backlash to end the gang & drug culture that is blighting society. Clearly the police can’t cope .

I’d bring in the army and lock the city down. Root out and smash those involved in illegal activity. A model to roll out elsewhere.

Because that worked out so well in Northern Ireland

Bit different.

How??

Four times bigger population and a much tougher geography.

While we know the paramilitary groups were involved in organised crime there was also a ‘cause’ supported by sectors of the population.

Not so in Liverpool, as all the good & decent people will rise in support and help drive the scumbags out.

Drive them out?,What are you saying?"

Root then out, flush them out, whatever it takes to end their cruel greedy ways. Smash them!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's not the scumbag fleeing a gunman we should be concerned about.

It it the useless police, who seem incapable of finding a man audacious enough to chase someone into a domestic dwelling, and fire blind into a living room where children could be.

It is the pathetic incapabiloty of the police, who can issue fines for speeding or harass people who say mean things on the internet, but who cannot find a gunman going I to people's homes.

That is where our anger should be. The media are also complicit, trying to give this false narrative that the authorities are in control.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's not the scumbag fleeing a gunman we should be concerned about.

It it the useless police, who seem incapable of finding a man audacious enough to chase someone into a domestic dwelling, and fire blind into a living room where children could be.

It is the pathetic incapabiloty of the police, who can issue fines for speeding or harass people who say mean things on the internet, but who cannot find a gunman going I to people's homes.

That is where our anger should be. The media are also complicit, trying to give this false narrative that the authorities are in control."
there have been two arrests.

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol

"It's not the scumbag fleeing a gunman we should be concerned about.

It it the useless police, who seem incapable of finding a man audacious enough to chase someone into a domestic dwelling, and fire blind into a living room where children could be.

It is the pathetic incapabiloty of the police, who can issue fines for speeding or harass people who say mean things on the internet, but who cannot find a gunman going I to people's homes.

That is where our anger should be. The media are also complicit, trying to give this false narrative that the authorities are in control."

So when they shot and killed mark Duggan everyone was rioting and complaining of police heavy handed tactics ( he was a scumbag gang member)

Tottenham Mandem street gang wit. International links

Even his mum was on telly saying how they had killed her son and how he was innocent ect

Is it any wonder that this has happened?

I do feel for the mum of this little girl who some scumbag has stolen her life away and I hope he gets a kicking every day for the rest of his life.

But to lay the blame at the police when so many people enable these gangs by dealing with them is wrong.

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West

"I still struggle to comprehend this. That poor family will never recover.

Let’s hope those behind it are brought to justice.

Let’s hope also that it starts a backlash to end the gang & drug culture that is blighting society. Clearly the police can’t cope .

I’d bring in the army and lock the city down. Root out and smash those involved in illegal activity. A model to roll out elsewhere."

In which other civilised countries in the world have you seen the Army occupying a National city?

What you are talking about there is actual dictatorship stuff.

“Being tough” is designed to appeal to a certain mindset.

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By *ebjonnsonMan
over a year ago

Maldon

"I still struggle to comprehend this. That poor family will never recover.

Let’s hope those behind it are brought to justice.

Let’s hope also that it starts a backlash to end the gang & drug culture that is blighting society. Clearly the police can’t cope .

I’d bring in the army and lock the city down. Root out and smash those involved in illegal activity. A model to roll out elsewhere.

In which other civilised countries in the world have you seen the Army occupying a National city?

What you are talking about there is actual dictatorship stuff.

“Being tough” is designed to appeal to a certain mindset. "

You are right, it was a silly idea. Let’s just carry on as we are, what a depressing and scary thought.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I still struggle to comprehend this. That poor family will never recover.

Let’s hope those behind it are brought to justice.

Let’s hope also that it starts a backlash to end the gang & drug culture that is blighting society. Clearly the police can’t cope .

I’d bring in the army and lock the city down. Root out and smash those involved in illegal activity. A model to roll out elsewhere.

In which other civilised countries in the world have you seen the Army occupying a National city?

What you are talking about there is actual dictatorship stuff.

“Being tough” is designed to appeal to a certain mindset.

You are right, it was a silly idea. Let’s just carry on as we are, what a depressing and scary thought. "
I'm fairly sure this is how Tory policy works. Do something dictatorial. Or do nothing. Don't let nuance get in the way.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I still struggle to comprehend this. That poor family will never recover.

Let’s hope those behind it are brought to justice.

Let’s hope also that it starts a backlash to end the gang & drug culture that is blighting society. Clearly the police can’t cope .

I’d bring in the army and lock the city down. Root out and smash those involved in illegal activity. A model to roll out elsewhere.

In which other civilised countries in the world have you seen the Army occupying a National city?

What you are talking about there is actual dictatorship stuff.

“Being tough” is designed to appeal to a certain mindset.

You are right, it was a silly idea. Let’s just carry on as we are, what a depressing and scary thought. I'm fairly sure this is how Tory policy works. Do something dictatorial. Or do nothing. Don't let nuance get in the way. "

Nah Tory policy is say something dictatorial do absolutely nothing and watch your base claim both that the problem still exists and that you solved it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"there have been two arrests. "

Both of those arrests resulted in the men being released without charge. The police are currently under very intense pressure to appear relevant. When the actual perpetrator of the killing is found then the authorities have some reprieve.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"there have been two arrests.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"there have been two arrests.

I think they are referring to the bail

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham

"I still struggle to comprehend this. That poor family will never recover.

Let’s hope those behind it are brought to justice.

Let’s hope also that it starts a backlash to end the gang & drug culture that is blighting society. Clearly the police can’t cope .

I’d bring in the army and lock the city down. Root out and smash those involved in illegal activity. A model to roll out elsewhere."

There are places in Liverpool / Merseyside that are police no go areas, stockbridge village was one of the places.

There was a T/A army barracks in Huyton, that the local thugs used to shoot into with air rifles. That was back in the 90's.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"BBC says released on bail. Where are you getting your news from? "

That's as good as released without charge as they have nothing to charge them with. Notice how the media are not focussing on this anymore? Can't have the public at large questioning the reliability of the half rate half wits in uniform can we?

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol

"BBC says released on bail. Where are you getting your news from?

I thought they were released on bail ?

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By *ebjonnsonMan
over a year ago

Maldon

"BBC says released on bail. Where are you getting your news from?

I thought they were released on bail ?

Perhaps for another offence? I saw on the news earlier that they had arrested over 200 people. Fasting the net wide I hope and pulling in all the know wrong uns.

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By *crumdiddlyumptiousMan
over a year ago

Blame the police all you want, Its the Law makers that allow these people to act the way they want knowing they will only get a few years for dealing/shooting etc

Double/triple the time you get dealing or carrying weapons and less people will do it

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham

"Blame the police all you want, Its the Law makers that allow these people to act the way they want knowing they will only get a few years for dealing/shooting etc

Double/triple the time you get dealing or carrying weapons and less people will do it"

That won't deter some criminals from carrying weapons, you have to catch the person with the weapon.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They are still looking for the killer. Finally released grainy footage of a slender person of about 5ft 10 to 6ft running and also a picture of the Black Audi. Although media or police censored the Audi's number plate. Yeah zero faith in the authority figures to find this one.

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