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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I mean just look at the leadership contest I believe that behind all the Truss and Sunak tribalism there is one universal truth to me.

It’s embarrassing having to watch this unfold the two candidates telling their supporters to essentially believe alternate realities and grand conspiracies.Rather than in my opinion the self implosion that has been proceeding since Mogg and his bootlickers overthrew May and blank rhetoric takes the place of any policy.

Whats everyones opinion of this?

or is the conservative party just simply suffering the fatigue of having been 12 years in power?

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By *6travellerMan
over a year ago

Tayside, Midlands and Chester

I feel sorry for true labour supporters. Not one of your present bunch is Labour and Starmer is too woke to be anything. Labour frankly is now unelectable

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I feel sorry for true labour supporters. Not one of your present bunch is Labour and Starmer is too woke to be anything. Labour frankly is now unelectable"

How does he become ‘less ‘ woke?

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By *heNerdyFembyWoman
over a year ago

Eastbourne (she/they)


"I feel sorry for true labour supporters. Not one of your present bunch is Labour and Starmer is too woke to be anything. Labour frankly is now unelectable

How does he become ‘less ‘ woke? "

What is "wrong" with woke?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I feel sorry for true labour supporters. Not one of your present bunch is Labour and Starmer is too woke to be anything. Labour frankly is now unelectable

How does he become ‘less ‘ woke?

What is "wrong" with woke?"

Nothing, but the poster seems to think SKS is too woke, I am am interested in what this means

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By *heNerdyFembyWoman
over a year ago

Eastbourne (she/they)


"I feel sorry for true labour supporters. Not one of your present bunch is Labour and Starmer is too woke to be anything. Labour frankly is now unelectable

How does he become ‘less ‘ woke?

What is "wrong" with woke?

Nothing, but the poster seems to think SKS is too woke, I am am interested in what this means "

Soooo many questions... Who thought SKS was this interesting?

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"I feel sorry for true labour supporters. Not one of your present bunch is Labour and Starmer is too woke to be anything. Labour frankly is now unelectable

How does he become ‘less ‘ woke?

What is "wrong" with woke?

Nothing, but the poster seems to think SKS is too woke, I am am interested in what this means

Soooo many questions... Who thought SKS was this interesting?"

I think the point being lost here is, he simply isn't interesting. No matter how poor the conservatives have been, he can't make ground.

I was sure after all the scandals the conservatives would implode and labour would strike, but that is starting to become a distant memory.

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

I feel sorry for everybody at the moment who has to experience this shambles.

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

Do I feel sorry for the (true) conservatives? No not one little bit. If they had a backbone they would have fought against the influence of the ERG and those pulling the party further to the right. They are all complicit in this embarrassing shambles.

As to the “woke” comment

You gotta love how being nice and respectful to/about people who are different to you is now considered to be a bad thing! When I was growing up it was just called good manners!

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By *eroy1000Man
over a year ago

milton keynes


"I feel sorry for true labour supporters. Not one of your present bunch is Labour and Starmer is too woke to be anything. Labour frankly is now unelectable"

Labour have not needed to do anything recently. All they have to do is sit back and watch the Tories imploding. Then it's up to them to present an alternative, gain the votes and walk into downing street

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By *teveuk77Man
over a year ago

uk


"I feel sorry for true labour supporters. Not one of your present bunch is Labour and Starmer is too woke to be anything. Labour frankly is now unelectable

Labour have not needed to do anything recently. All they have to do is sit back and watch the Tories imploding. Then it's up to them to present an alternative, gain the votes and walk into downing street"

I so hope you are right!

I can't see how any conservative voter is happy with the situation the party is in and the standard of leadership options. Of course, some will always vote Tory regardless but anyone else who would consider voting for them now need a long hard think about who they would be voting in. Anyone who think SKS is "just as bad" needs a wake up call.

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By *ayturners turn hayMan
over a year ago

Wellingborugh


"I mean just look at the leadership contest I believe that behind all the Truss and Sunak tribalism there is one universal truth to me.

It’s embarrassing having to watch this unfold the two candidates telling their supporters to essentially believe alternate realities and grand conspiracies.Rather than in my opinion the self implosion that has been proceeding since Mogg and his bootlickers overthrew May and blank rhetoric takes the place of any policy.

Whats everyones opinion of this?

or is the conservative party just simply suffering the fatigue of having been 12 years in power?"
. With a majority in excess of seventy seats and Liz Truss about to be elected Prime Minister I do not think any true Conservative wants or asks for any sympathy . With Liz Truss we have a winning ticket and a fantastic future . Now that we have left the EU we will start reaping the awards that only leaving can bring . Only this week the transport minister have said that he will relax the rules relating to driving LGV s under 7.5 tons . With so many new trade deals and the fact that we continue to trade with the EU , sympathy is not required , maybe an admiration of our success and that of the country would be good .

Most Conservatives are delighted with Li Truss . She must be good , she is already annoying all the right people .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I mean just look at the leadership contest I believe that behind all the Truss and Sunak tribalism there is one universal truth to me.

It’s embarrassing having to watch this unfold the two candidates telling their supporters to essentially believe alternate realities and grand conspiracies.Rather than in my opinion the self implosion that has been proceeding since Mogg and his bootlickers overthrew May and blank rhetoric takes the place of any policy.

Whats everyones opinion of this?

or is the conservative party just simply suffering the fatigue of having been 12 years in power?. With a majority in excess of seventy seats and Liz Truss about to be elected Prime Minister I do not think any true Conservative wants or asks for any sympathy . With Liz Truss we have a winning ticket and a fantastic future . Now that we have left the EU we will start reaping the awards that only leaving can bring . Only this week the transport minister have said that he will relax the rules relating to driving LGV s under 7.5 tons . With so many new trade deals and the fact that we continue to trade with the EU , sympathy is not required , maybe an admiration of our success and that of the country would be good .

Most Conservatives are delighted with Li Truss . She must be good , she is already annoying all the right people . "
. Missed you!

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


"I mean just look at the leadership contest I believe that behind all the Truss and Sunak tribalism there is one universal truth to me.

It’s embarrassing having to watch this unfold the two candidates telling their supporters to essentially believe alternate realities and grand conspiracies.Rather than in my opinion the self implosion that has been proceeding since Mogg and his bootlickers overthrew May and blank rhetoric takes the place of any policy.

Whats everyones opinion of this?

or is the conservative party just simply suffering the fatigue of having been 12 years in power?. With a majority in excess of seventy seats and Liz Truss about to be elected Prime Minister I do not think any true Conservative wants or asks for any sympathy . With Liz Truss we have a winning ticket and a fantastic future . Now that we have left the EU we will start reaping the awards that only leaving can bring . Only this week the transport minister have said that he will relax the rules relating to driving LGV s under 7.5 tons . With so many new trade deals and the fact that we continue to trade with the EU , sympathy is not required , maybe an admiration of our success and that of the country would be good .

Most Conservatives are delighted with Li Truss . She must be good , she is already annoying all the right people . . Missed you!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I mean just look at the leadership contest I believe that behind all the Truss and Sunak tribalism there is one universal truth to me.

It’s embarrassing having to watch this unfold the two candidates telling their supporters to essentially believe alternate realities and grand conspiracies.Rather than in my opinion the self implosion that has been proceeding since Mogg and his bootlickers overthrew May and blank rhetoric takes the place of any policy.

Whats everyones opinion of this?

or is the conservative party just simply suffering the fatigue of having been 12 years in power?. With a majority in excess of seventy seats and Liz Truss about to be elected Prime Minister I do not think any true Conservative wants or asks for any sympathy . With Liz Truss we have a winning ticket and a fantastic future . Now that we have left the EU we will start reaping the awards that only leaving can bring . Only this week the transport minister have said that he will relax the rules relating to driving LGV s under 7.5 tons . With so many new trade deals and the fact that we continue to trade with the EU , sympathy is not required , maybe an admiration of our success and that of the country would be good .

Most Conservatives are delighted with Li Truss . She must be good , she is already annoying all the right people . "

A little unrelated aside just because I'm curious who are these right people and how is she annoying them?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I mean just look at the leadership contest I believe that behind all the Truss and Sunak tribalism there is one universal truth to me.

It’s embarrassing having to watch this unfold the two candidates telling their supporters to essentially believe alternate realities and grand conspiracies.Rather than in my opinion the self implosion that has been proceeding since Mogg and his bootlickers overthrew May and blank rhetoric takes the place of any policy.

Whats everyones opinion of this?

or is the conservative party just simply suffering the fatigue of having been 12 years in power?. With a majority in excess of seventy seats and Liz Truss about to be elected Prime Minister I do not think any true Conservative wants or asks for any sympathy . With Liz Truss we have a winning ticket and a fantastic future . Now that we have left the EU we will start reaping the awards that only leaving can bring . Only this week the transport minister have said that he will relax the rules relating to driving LGV s under 7.5 tons . With so many new trade deals and the fact that we continue to trade with the EU , sympathy is not required , maybe an admiration of our success and that of the country would be good .

Most Conservatives are delighted with Li Truss . She must be good , she is already annoying all the right people .

A little unrelated aside just because I'm curious who are these right people and how is she annoying them?"
anyone who uses the gravity model for the economical modelling.

Anyone who likes people who know what they are talking about.

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By *illi3736Woman
over a year ago

Glasgow

So the Tories have us Trillions in debt an inflation rate that threatens to sink a large portion of the working classes. They got us out of our largest trading market and inflicted a serial liar on us as PM. Yet it is Labour who are unelectable? Wow what planet are You on ?

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By *ayturners turn hayMan
over a year ago

Wellingborugh


"Do I feel sorry for the (true) conservatives? No not one little bit. If they had a backbone they would have fought against the influence of the ERG and those pulling the party further to the right. They are all complicit in this embarrassing shambles.

As to the “woke” comment

You gotta love how being nice and respectful to/about people who are different to you is now considered to be a bad thing! When I was growing up it was just called good manners!"
The issue is that the woke brigade are a very vocal but completely intolerant minority . They resort to vicious intimidation of people with whom they do not agree and make numerous efforts to cancel people . The tide is now turning against woke warriors . No one needs to know about someones private life - it is simply private .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Do I feel sorry for the (true) conservatives? No not one little bit. If they had a backbone they would have fought against the influence of the ERG and those pulling the party further to the right. They are all complicit in this embarrassing shambles.

As to the “woke” comment

You gotta love how being nice and respectful to/about people who are different to you is now considered to be a bad thing! When I was growing up it was just called good manners! The issue is that the woke brigade are a very vocal but completely intolerant minority . They resort to vicious intimidation of people with whom they do not agree and make numerous efforts to cancel people . The tide is now turning against woke warriors . No one needs to know about someones private life - it is simply private . "
she's got point... For once I agree with her.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Do I feel sorry for the (true) conservatives? No not one little bit. If they had a backbone they would have fought against the influence of the ERG and those pulling the party further to the right. They are all complicit in this embarrassing shambles.

As to the “woke” comment

You gotta love how being nice and respectful to/about people who are different to you is now considered to be a bad thing! When I was growing up it was just called good manners! The issue is that the woke brigade are a very vocal but completely intolerant minority . They resort to vicious intimidation of people with whom they do not agree and make numerous efforts to cancel people . The tide is now turning against woke warriors . No one needs to know about someones private life - it is simply private . "

Woke warriors? Anyway, your post is hilarious,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Do I feel sorry for the (true) conservatives? No not one little bit. If they had a backbone they would have fought against the influence of the ERG and those pulling the party further to the right. They are all complicit in this embarrassing shambles.

As to the “woke” comment

You gotta love how being nice and respectful to/about people who are different to you is now considered to be a bad thing! When I was growing up it was just called good manners! The issue is that the woke brigade are a very vocal but completely intolerant minority . They resort to vicious intimidation of people with whom they do not agree and make numerous efforts to cancel people . The tide is now turning against woke warriors . No one needs to know about someones private life - it is simply private . "

Agreed

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By *heNerdyFembyWoman
over a year ago

Eastbourne (she/they)

Ok people are talking about cancelling people. Could one of you tell me a single person who has been successfully cancelled (no longer has a platform) who is both still alive and not been convicted or charged with a crime that lead to the cancelling?

I ask cos if they still have a platform they have not been cancelled, and it is my belief that what people actually mean by cancelled is facing the consequences of their own actions.

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By *lixerMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

Conservatives have no culture,no music, no poetry, no artists. Nothing. All good creativity comes from the left. All of it. Of course in Scotland most of our creatives seek a normal nation state and to destroy the Union. Which will be our gift to England.

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton


"Do I feel sorry for the (true) conservatives? No not one little bit. If they had a backbone they would have fought against the influence of the ERG and those pulling the party further to the right. They are all complicit in this embarrassing shambles.

As to the “woke” comment

You gotta love how being nice and respectful to/about people who are different to you is now considered to be a bad thing! When I was growing up it was just called good manners! The issue is that the woke brigade are a very vocal but completely intolerant minority . They resort to vicious intimidation of people with whom they do not agree and make numerous efforts to cancel people . The tide is now turning against woke warriors . No one needs to know about someones private life - it is simply private . "

Mr Hay! Where have you been? I guess keeping your powder dry to see whether to throw you lot in with Rishi or Liz. Now that we know, I am looking forward to more of your comedy gold

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"Conservatives have no culture,no music, no poetry, no artists. Nothing. All good creativity comes from the left. All of it. Of course in Scotland most of our creatives seek a normal nation state and to destroy the Union. Which will be our gift to England. "

This is a great story thanks, for sharing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I mean just look at the leadership contest I believe that behind all the Truss and Sunak tribalism there is one universal truth to me.

It’s embarrassing having to watch this unfold the two candidates telling their supporters to essentially believe alternate realities and grand conspiracies.Rather than in my opinion the self implosion that has been proceeding since Mogg and his bootlickers overthrew May and blank rhetoric takes the place of any policy.

Whats everyones opinion of this?

or is the conservative party just simply suffering the fatigue of having been 12 years in power?"

As long as there people still willing to vote conservative, they will never be eliminated.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am trying to comprehend the disdain.. is there a independent party in the UK? Seems you have the same issues we do.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I am trying to comprehend the disdain.. is there a independent party in the UK? Seems you have the same issues we do."

There are quite a lot of independent parties which hold seats in our parliament and there are safeguards in place to make sure they get a voice at elections.The complete opposite of your system.

The problem in my mind is our adoption of American style politics which revolve around two parties and FPTP which hinders small parties.

Barring the second world war we’ve had two coalition governments post current founding.One was the founding government.

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By *ity_BoyMan
over a year ago

London

Bigots think racism, homophobia, and transphobia amounts to an opinion that we must respect.

Oh no, those woke meanies not tolerating my terrible views. How can they be inclusive and accepting when they aren't accepting my views? Checkmate wokes!

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By *rLibertineMan
over a year ago

North Suffolk


"I mean just look at the leadership contest I believe that behind all the Truss and Sunak tribalism there is one universal truth to me.

It’s embarrassing having to watch this unfold the two candidates telling their supporters to essentially believe alternate realities and grand conspiracies.Rather than in my opinion the self implosion that has been proceeding since Mogg and his bootlickers overthrew May and blank rhetoric takes the place of any policy.

Whats everyones opinion of this?

or is the conservative party just simply suffering the fatigue of having been 12 years in power?. With a majority in excess of seventy seats and Liz Truss about to be elected Prime Minister I do not think any true Conservative wants or asks for any sympathy . With Liz Truss we have a winning ticket and a fantastic future . Now that we have left the EU we will start reaping the awards that only leaving can bring . Only this week the transport minister have said that he will relax the rules relating to driving LGV s under 7.5 tons . With so many new trade deals and the fact that we continue to trade with the EU , sympathy is not required , maybe an admiration of our success and that of the country would be good .

Most Conservatives are delighted with Li Truss . She must be good , she is already annoying all the right people . "

not bad 6/10 - you will get some bites

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I mean just look at the leadership contest I believe that behind all the Truss and Sunak tribalism there is one universal truth to me.

It’s embarrassing having to watch this unfold the two candidates telling their supporters to essentially believe alternate realities and grand conspiracies.Rather than in my opinion the self implosion that has been proceeding since Mogg and his bootlickers overthrew May and blank rhetoric takes the place of any policy.

Whats everyones opinion of this?

or is the conservative party just simply suffering the fatigue of having been 12 years in power?. With a majority in excess of seventy seats and Liz Truss about to be elected Prime Minister I do not think any true Conservative wants or asks for any sympathy . With Liz Truss we have a winning ticket and a fantastic future . Now that we have left the EU we will start reaping the awards that only leaving can bring . Only this week the transport minister have said that he will relax the rules relating to driving LGV s under 7.5 tons . With so many new trade deals and the fact that we continue to trade with the EU , sympathy is not required , maybe an admiration of our success and that of the country would be good .

Most Conservatives are delighted with Li Truss . She must be good , she is already annoying all the right people .

not bad 6/10 - you will get some bites "

6/10, that is very generous, more like a 3

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I mean just look at the leadership contest I believe that behind all the Truss and Sunak tribalism there is one universal truth to me.

It’s embarrassing having to watch this unfold the two candidates telling their supporters to essentially believe alternate realities and grand conspiracies.Rather than in my opinion the self implosion that has been proceeding since Mogg and his bootlickers overthrew May and blank rhetoric takes the place of any policy.

Whats everyones opinion of this?

or is the conservative party just simply suffering the fatigue of having been 12 years in power?. With a majority in excess of seventy seats and Liz Truss about to be elected Prime Minister I do not think any true Conservative wants or asks for any sympathy . With Liz Truss we have a winning ticket and a fantastic future . Now that we have left the EU we will start reaping the awards that only leaving can bring . Only this week the transport minister have said that he will relax the rules relating to driving LGV s under 7.5 tons . With so many new trade deals and the fact that we continue to trade with the EU , sympathy is not required , maybe an admiration of our success and that of the country would be good .

Most Conservatives are delighted with Li Truss . She must be good , she is already annoying all the right people . "

What are these rewards that only leaving can bring?

What are these so many new trade deals?,Why do you put trading with the EU as some bonus?,it was always going to happen we would literally starve otherwise.

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By *agpipeblow2Man
over a year ago

Greenock, Karlsruhe

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I feel sorry for people who vote based on tribal influence over results

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