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"Just as well most people have enough common sense to recognise that rail workers are already very well paid ( probably substantially overpaid ) and any pay increase for a railway worker is simply paid for by either the taxpayer or ordinary working people . He only thinks of himself , not the inconvenience caused to anyone else . Even his own union do not support him - many members are quietly going back to work - maybe they recognise how lucky they are to already have a very well paid job . " 3/10 Hays nothing unexpected or shocking in what you had to say with this comment. | |||
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"Just as well most people have enough common sense to recognise that rail workers are already very well paid ( probably substantially overpaid ) and any pay increase for a railway worker is simply paid for by either the taxpayer or ordinary working people . He only thinks of himself , not the inconvenience caused to anyone else . Even his own union do not support him - many members are quietly going back to work - maybe they recognise how lucky they are to already have a very well paid job . 3/10 Hays nothing unexpected or shocking in what you had to say with this comment." Given pat's history of fabrication I would score it at minus, certainly the last paragraph.. Does sound like more nonsense from Mr multiple profiles.. | |||
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"Listening to the nonsense spouted by many of our politicians and particularly the two people vying to be PM, and comparing their gibberish to Mick Lynch’s straight talking common sense. Mick Lynch for PM - he would certainly put ordinary people first." I doubt very much he knows much about national economics 
Him and his mates are likely going to cause some real damage if they call a general strike 
All we need is them getting big rises and then everyone else else expecting the same will drive inflation even higher.
Yes their wage will be better but the millions of others will be even worse off.
The railway will just hike ticket prices even higher so will price themselves out.
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"Listening to the nonsense spouted by many of our politicians and particularly the two people vying to be PM, and comparing their gibberish to Mick Lynch’s straight talking common sense. Mick Lynch for PM - he would certainly put ordinary people first. I doubt very much he knows much about national economics
Him and his mates are likely going to cause some real damage if they call a general strike
All we need is them getting big rises and then everyone else else expecting the same will drive inflation even higher.
Yes their wage will be better but the millions of others will be even worse off.
The railway will just hike ticket prices even higher so will price themselves out.
"Serious question, but why should his members who are by and large cleaners, ticket clerks and admin staff accept below inflation pay rises when £500 million per year is taken out in profit every year and the rail bosses use Swiss Banks, whilst the cleaners they employ are using food banks? | |||
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"Just as well most people have enough common sense to recognise that rail workers are already very well paid ( probably substantially overpaid ) and any pay increase for a railway worker is simply paid for by either the taxpayer or ordinary working people . He only thinks of himself , not the inconvenience caused to anyone else . Even his own union do not support him - many members are quietly going back to work - maybe they recognise how lucky they are to already have a very well paid job . " How is a cleaner, janitor, admin assistant, ticket clerk or security person who is paid £10-£12 per hour grossly overpaid? RMT staff represent mainly the bottom rung of the ladder. Is it right that ordinary workers are pushed into poverty whilst the operating companies take in £500 million a year in guaranteed profits and charge us the highest fares in Europe? Have you been smoking that hay instead of turning it? | |||
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"Just as well most people have enough common sense to recognise that rail workers are already very well paid ( probably substantially overpaid ) and any pay increase for a railway worker is simply paid for by either the taxpayer or ordinary working people . He only thinks of himself , not the inconvenience caused to anyone else . Even his own union do not support him - many members are quietly going back to work - maybe they recognise how lucky they are to already have a very well paid job . How is a cleaner, janitor, admin assistant, ticket clerk or security person who is paid £10-£12 per hour grossly overpaid? RMT staff represent mainly the bottom rung of the ladder. Is it right that ordinary workers are pushed into poverty whilst the operating companies take in £500 million a year in guaranteed profits and charge us the highest fares in Europe? Have you been smoking that hay instead of turning it?" That 500million profit could translate into a pay rise of £3.15/hr for EVERY member of the RMT union. | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 28/07/22 22:23:12]" 
Hi pat, how's the hay? | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 28/07/22 22:23:12]" Oh no. I can’t let my prospective fuck meets realise what I am really like. Much hay smoking tonight methinks. | |||
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"Listening to the nonsense spouted by many of our politicians and particularly the two people vying to be PM, and comparing their gibberish to Mick Lynch’s straight talking common sense. Mick Lynch for PM - he would certainly put ordinary people first."  | |||
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"Listening to the nonsense spouted by many of our politicians and particularly the two people vying to be PM, and comparing their gibberish to Mick Lynch’s straight talking common sense. Mick Lynch for PM - he would certainly put ordinary people first." If you ever got to meet Mr Lynch you would soon realise he is the most arrogant man you could ever meet. He doesn't want to listen to other people or what their opinion is. Certainly not a good choice for PM or you local MP. | |||
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"Just as well most people have enough common sense to recognise that rail workers are already very well paid ( probably substantially overpaid ) and any pay increase for a railway worker is simply paid for by either the taxpayer or ordinary working people . He only thinks of himself , not the inconvenience caused to anyone else . Even his own union do not support him - many members are quietly going back to work - maybe they recognise how lucky they are to already have a very well paid job . " Hypothetical question for you Hay. What would you do if the Tories started to bring in rhetoric and policies that favoured British people over big corporations/billionaires? I know it's never going to happen, but if it did, where would you defect to? | |||
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 , reminded me that even the NUM turned on Arthur Scargill in the end.
Union leaders are no different to politicians. They all have a shelf life. | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 28/07/22 22:23:12]" Did you forget which profile you were using Pat | |||
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"Listening to the nonsense spouted by many of our politicians and particularly the two people vying to be PM, and comparing their gibberish to Mick Lynch’s straight talking common sense. Mick Lynch for PM - he would certainly put ordinary people first. I doubt very much he knows much about national economics
Him and his mates are likely going to cause some real damage if they call a general strike
All we need is them getting big rises and then everyone else else expecting the same will drive inflation even higher.
Yes their wage will be better but the millions of others will be even worse off.
The railway will just hike ticket prices even higher so will price themselves out.
"I thought Brexit was going to create and the government wanted a high wage economy?? | |||
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"Union leaders are no different to politicians. They all have a shelf life." laughable post .... union leaders are politicians democratically elected by members of the trade unions. the same trade unions which collectivised under the TUC and also formed the labour party in order to have some say in the house of commons and politics in general. it's not like they are some shadowy exclusive gentlemans club for ex-public school boys where groping, corruption and other nefarious activities are encouraged by conservative and unionist party members. | |||
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"Union leaders are no different to politicians. They all have a shelf life. laughable post .... union leaders are politicians democratically elected by members of the trade unions. the same trade unions which collectivised under the TUC and also formed the labour party in order to have some say in the house of commons and politics in general. it's not like they are some shadowy exclusive gentlemans club for ex-public school boys where groping, corruption and other nefarious activities are encouraged by conservative and unionist party members. "I would even argue that Trade union reps are better examples of what Politicians should be, than Politicians in Westminster (I feel this is implied above, but I wanted to outright say it) | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 28/07/22 22:23:12] Did you forget which profile you were using Pat "Chuckle brothers, to me to you.. | |||
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"Listening to the nonsense spouted by many of our politicians and particularly the two people vying to be PM, and comparing their gibberish to Mick Lynch’s straight talking common sense. Mick Lynch for PM - he would certainly put ordinary people first. I doubt very much he knows much about national economics
Him and his mates are likely going to cause some real damage if they call a general strike
All we need is them getting big rises and then everyone else else expecting the same will drive inflation even higher.
Yes their wage will be better but the millions of others will be even worse off.
The railway will just hike ticket prices even higher so will price themselves out.
I thought Brexit was going to create and the government wanted a high wage economy??"Like Chicago sang " another illusion they chose to create". But the gullible bought it hook, line and sinker. | |||
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"Union leaders are no different to politicians. They all have a shelf life. laughable post .... union leaders are politicians democratically elected by members of the trade unions. the same trade unions which collectivised under the TUC and also formed the labour party in order to have some say in the house of commons and politics in general. it's not like they are some shadowy exclusive gentlemans club for ex-public school boys where groping, corruption and other nefarious activities are encouraged by conservative and unionist party members. "I think Uniions in general are a cause for good, and I'm a member of the GMB union. But on a lower down level the union reps are hit and miss just like politicians. One of the places I worked the Union rep was a self serving prick who didn't give a shit about the members where we worked, he was just in it for himself and his own job security. He was only voted Union rep because he had a lot of cronies that worked there and bullied people into voting for him and basically made it his own personal thiefdom. Me and some others complained to our local area Union rep in the end about him. It's more direct and democratic but is open to the same kind of abuse and egos as other forms of politics. | |||
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"Union leaders are no different to politicians. They all have a shelf life. laughable post .... union leaders are politicians democratically elected by members of the trade unions. the same trade unions which collectivised under the TUC and also formed the labour party in order to have some say in the house of commons and politics in general. it's not like they are some shadowy exclusive gentlemans club for ex-public school boys where groping, corruption and other nefarious activities are encouraged by conservative and unionist party members.
I think Uniions in general are a cause for good, and I'm a member of the GMB union. But on a lower down level the union reps are hit and miss just like politicians. One of the places I worked the Union rep was a self serving prick who didn't give a shit about the members where we worked, he was just in it for himself and his own job security. He was only voted Union rep because he had a lot of cronies that worked there and bullied people into voting for him and basically made it his own personal thiefdom. Me and some others complained to our local area Union rep in the end about him. It's more direct and democratic but is open to the same kind of abuse and egos as other forms of politics."There are cunts in all walks of life but the ones who abuse their positions are always the worst whether they are politicians, union reps or policemen for that matter. Perhaps our schools should be teaching morals | |||
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