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"What are you hoping to gain from such a thread...?" A discussion. I'm interested to hear from those who agree and who disagree | |||
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"What are you hoping to gain from such a thread...? A discussion. I'm interested to hear from those who agree and who disagree " A discussion or a argument..? You have your set views that are probably not going to change. So basically the only people that will respond to this who are also equally set in their views. I don't think there will be a discussion, just a lot of mud slinging. | |||
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"It shows how twisted Putin is, he wanted to “de nazify” Ukraine. It’s leader Zelensky is a Jew for f***s sake" Ah thanks. Do you not think that is exactly why zelensky is in power.... To deflect from the idea that ukraine cannot have nazi militias because he is Jewish. | |||
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"Free the Uyghurs. " Aren't they infiltrated by Islamic fundamentalists? | |||
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"Free the Uyghurs. Aren't they infiltrated by Islamic fundamentalists? " Doesn’t mean one million of them should be detained though in my book. | |||
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"Free the Uyghurs. Aren't they infiltrated by Islamic fundamentalists? Doesn’t mean one million of them should be detained though in my book. " its china mate and they can do as they please funnily enough th u.k and u.s have stayed very quiet about them locking people up for fuck all | |||
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"Just carrying on the discussion from the global warming thread... I support putin and the special military operation in the Ukraine. I want a Russian victory. NATO and the Americans are to blame for the situation in Ukraine. Putin is an accomplished and popular leader. Russians support him. He was exactky correct when he called the west the empire of lies. I admire the history of the soviet union. I think Lenin and stalin were great and inspirational leaders I also support communist China and think chinas achievements prove that communism is not only workable but a far better system than capitalism and should replace it as the next step forward for civilisation. Xxxx " So I take it you know that: 1) The Soviet Union (a Communist state) was pretty much undermined by people like Putin. 2) Russia is not a Communist state (far from it) So your OP appears to be somewhat confused or contradictory? What I take from your OP is that you are supportive of authoritarian regimes (ie NOT democracy). Is that right? | |||
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"Just carrying on the discussion from the global warming thread... I support putin and the special military operation in the Ukraine. I want a Russian victory. NATO and the Americans are to blame for the situation in Ukraine. Putin is an accomplished and popular leader. Russians support him. He was exactky correct when he called the west the empire of lies. I admire the history of the soviet union. I think Lenin and stalin were great and inspirational leaders I also support communist China and think chinas achievements prove that communism is not only workable but a far better system than capitalism and should replace it as the next step forward for civilisation. Xxxx " Off you pop and good luck to you  | |||
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"Just carrying on the discussion from the global warming thread... I support putin and the special military operation in the Ukraine. I want a Russian victory. NATO and the Americans are to blame for the situation in Ukraine. Putin is an accomplished and popular leader. Russians support him. He was exactky correct when he called the west the empire of lies. I admire the history of the soviet union. I think Lenin and stalin were great and inspirational leaders I also support communist China and think chinas achievements prove that communism is not only workable but a far better system than capitalism and should replace it as the next step forward for civilisation. Xxxx So I take it you know that: 1) The Soviet Union (a Communist state) was pretty much undermined by people like Putin. 2) Russia is not a Communist state (far from it) So your OP appears to be somewhat confused or contradictory? What I take from your OP is that you are supportive of authoritarian regimes (ie NOT democracy). Is that right? " 1. False 2. Yes of course I know that I am not opposed to authoritarian regimes per se,it very much depends on the nature of the regime and how it benefits the people | |||
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"It shows how twisted Putin is, he wanted to “de nazify” Ukraine. It’s leader Zelensky is a Jew for f***s sake Ah thanks. Do you not think that is exactly why zelensky is in power.... To deflect from the idea that ukraine cannot have nazi militias because he is Jewish. " Almost every country in the world has a hardcore of people that are Nazi. That does not mean a country needs liberating, We have neo nazi groups in this country, do we need liberating? | |||
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"It shows how twisted Putin is, he wanted to “de nazify” Ukraine. It’s leader Zelensky is a Jew for f***s sake Ah thanks. Do you not think that is exactly why zelensky is in power.... To deflect from the idea that ukraine cannot have nazi militias because he is Jewish. " Sometimes wonder if these conspiracy nuts just take a deep breath, calm down and actually think about what they're saying? | |||
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"Just carrying on the discussion from the global warming thread... I support putin and the special military operation in the Ukraine. I want a Russian victory. NATO and the Americans are to blame for the situation in Ukraine. Putin is an accomplished and popular leader. Russians support him. He was exactky correct when he called the west the empire of lies. I admire the history of the soviet union. I think Lenin and stalin were great and inspirational leaders I also support communist China and think chinas achievements prove that communism is not only workable but a far better system than capitalism and should replace it as the next step forward for civilisation. Xxxx So I take it you know that: 1) The Soviet Union (a Communist state) was pretty much undermined by people like Putin. 2) Russia is not a Communist state (far from it) So your OP appears to be somewhat confused or contradictory? What I take from your OP is that you are supportive of authoritarian regimes (ie NOT democracy). Is that right? 1. False 2. Yes of course I know that I am not opposed to authoritarian regimes per se,it very much depends on the nature of the regime and how it benefits the people " 1. Not false true! The ex members of the KGB have made themselves very rich by appropriating the Soviet state owned assets. They undermined and bankrupted the Soviet state through corruption. An authoritarian regime by definition does not benefit the people. They lack free will or the power to determine their own destiny or decide what govt policy issues matter most to them. Putin sees himself as a modern day Tsar. The people of Russia are his serfs. He doesn’t wish to recreate the Soviet Union, he wants the power to control a comparative amount of territory. I didn’t read the climate change thread until now. Your posts are...interesting. Especially your love of Stalin. You realise of course that more people were murdered by Stalin’s regime than by Hitler’s Nazis right? I’m not saying one is worse than the other, they were both murdering bastards who persecuted racial groups and political opponents. Both evil. Both totalitarian regimes. | |||
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"It shows how twisted Putin is, he wanted to “de nazify” Ukraine. It’s leader Zelensky is a Jew for f***s sake Ah thanks. Do you not think that is exactly why zelensky is in power.... To deflect from the idea that ukraine cannot have nazi militias because he is Jewish. Sometimes wonder if these conspiracy nuts just take a deep breath, calm down and actually think about what they're saying?" Whats the conspiracy theory? That ukraine cannot have neo nazis because zekensky happens to be Jewish? Or that zelensky being Jewish is irrelevant and possibly even of benefit to ukranian neo nazis? | |||
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"It shows how twisted Putin is, he wanted to “de nazify” Ukraine. It’s leader Zelensky is a Jew for f***s sake Ah thanks. Do you not think that is exactly why zelensky is in power.... To deflect from the idea that ukraine cannot have nazi militias because he is Jewish. Almost every country in the world has a hardcore of people that are Nazi. That does not mean a country needs liberating, We have neo nazi groups in this country, do we need liberating?" Name the armed forces in this country that like the azov batallion and the kraken division have sworn allegiance to Adolf Hitler and that have oaths of loyalty to racial purity.... | |||
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"It shows how twisted Putin is, he wanted to “de nazify” Ukraine. It’s leader Zelensky is a Jew for f***s sake Ah thanks. Do you not think that is exactly why zelensky is in power.... To deflect from the idea that ukraine cannot have nazi militias because he is Jewish. Sometimes wonder if these conspiracy nuts just take a deep breath, calm down and actually think about what they're saying? Whats the conspiracy theory? That ukraine cannot have neo nazis because zekensky happens to be Jewish? Or that zelensky being Jewish is irrelevant and possibly even of benefit to ukranian neo nazis? " Without a doubt there were some dodgy goings on in Ukraine. There are indeed neo nazis (the Azov Brigade). But that still does not justify another country invading. | |||
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"Just carrying on the discussion from the global warming thread... I support putin and the special military operation in the Ukraine. I want a Russian victory. NATO and the Americans are to blame for the situation in Ukraine. Putin is an accomplished and popular leader. Russians support him. He was exactky correct when he called the west the empire of lies. I admire the history of the soviet union. I think Lenin and stalin were great and inspirational leaders I also support communist China and think chinas achievements prove that communism is not only workable but a far better system than capitalism and should replace it as the next step forward for civilisation. Xxxx So I take it you know that: 1) The Soviet Union (a Communist state) was pretty much undermined by people like Putin. 2) Russia is not a Communist state (far from it) So your OP appears to be somewhat confused or contradictory? What I take from your OP is that you are supportive of authoritarian regimes (ie NOT democracy). Is that right? 1. False 2. Yes of course I know that I am not opposed to authoritarian regimes per se,it very much depends on the nature of the regime and how it benefits the people 1. Not false true! The ex members of the KGB have made themselves very rich by appropriating the Soviet state owned assets. They undermined and bankrupted the Soviet state through corruption. An authoritarian regime by definition does not benefit the people. They lack free will or the power to determine their own destiny or decide what govt policy issues matter most to them. Putin sees himself as a modern day Tsar. The people of Russia are his serfs. He doesn’t wish to recreate the Soviet Union, he wants the power to control a comparative amount of territory. I didn’t read the climate change thread until now. Your posts are...interesting. Especially your love of Stalin. You realise of course that more people were murdered by Stalin’s regime than by Hitler’s Nazis right? I’m not saying one is worse than the other, they were both murdering bastards who persecuted racial groups and political opponents. Both evil. Both totalitarian regimes." 1 that's false but also incredibly funny to think that a bunch of kgb officials bankrupted an entire state. Putin has remained pretty honest and loyal to the soviet union and has more than not spoken warmly over its achievements. That's a western illogical fallacy and generalisation about authoritarianism. Putin doesn't see himself as a modern day Tsar, the guardian newspaper sees Putin as a modern day Tsar. There's a difference. He certainly does not regard his people as serfs, that's a very silly and immature thing to say never mind belueve. That's another myth and pretty much unproveable anyway. The Nazis killed and murdered 26 million soviet soldiers and civilians- that's half the population of the UK. So I thibk stalin had every right to seek vengeance against former nazis. Stalin was nothing like Hitler at all, that's just simply anti communist propaganda and really there to mitigate thd crimes of the Third reich. | |||
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"It shows how twisted Putin is, he wanted to “de nazify” Ukraine. It’s leader Zelensky is a Jew for f***s sake Ah thanks. Do you not think that is exactly why zelensky is in power.... To deflect from the idea that ukraine cannot have nazi militias because he is Jewish. Sometimes wonder if these conspiracy nuts just take a deep breath, calm down and actually think about what they're saying? Whats the conspiracy theory? That ukraine cannot have neo nazis because zekensky happens to be Jewish? Or that zelensky being Jewish is irrelevant and possibly even of benefit to ukranian neo nazis? Without a doubt there were some dodgy goings on in Ukraine. There are indeed neo nazis (the Azov Brigade). But that still does not justify another country invading." You could argue that. I accept that there are arguments in that regard. The key factor to me are the west and Ukraine ignoring the minsk accords and that we now know that ukraine was planning to invade and purge the east and south of the country and possibly due to the influence of demented neo nazi militias emboldened by sophisticated Western tanks and weaponry to go into Russia to plunder. | |||
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"Just carrying on the discussion from the global warming thread... I support putin and the special military operation in the Ukraine. I want a Russian victory. NATO and the Americans are to blame for the situation in Ukraine. Putin is an accomplished and popular leader. Russians support him. He was exactky correct when he called the west the empire of lies. I admire the history of the soviet union. I think Lenin and stalin were great and inspirational leaders I also support communist China and think chinas achievements prove that communism is not only workable but a far better system than capitalism and should replace it as the next step forward for civilisation. Xxxx " That's nice, pleased for you.. | |||
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"Just carrying on the discussion from the global warming thread... I support putin and the special military operation in the Ukraine. I want a Russian victory. NATO and the Americans are to blame for the situation in Ukraine. Putin is an accomplished and popular leader. Russians support him. He was exactky correct when he called the west the empire of lies. I admire the history of the soviet union. I think Lenin and stalin were great and inspirational leaders I also support communist China and think chinas achievements prove that communism is not only workable but a far better system than capitalism and should replace it as the next step forward for civilisation. Xxxx That's nice, pleased for you.. " Thank you xxx | |||
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"Just carrying on the discussion from the global warming thread... I support putin and the special military operation in the Ukraine. I want a Russian victory. NATO and the Americans are to blame for the situation in Ukraine. Putin is an accomplished and popular leader. Russians support him. He was exactky correct when he called the west the empire of lies. I admire the history of the soviet union. I think Lenin and stalin were great and inspirational leaders I also support communist China and think chinas achievements prove that communism is not only workable but a far better system than capitalism and should replace it as the next step forward for civilisation. Xxxx That's nice, pleased for you.. Thank you xxx" Your welcome.. My personal opinion is were all entitled to our own opinions no matter how vile they might be.. Better that people who share the aims and applaud the actions of a child murdering megalomaniac who has allowed his troops to pillage and ra#e women in an unlawful, unjustified war on another sovereign nation are out in the open and not dwelling in the gutter.. That way they are easy to spot.. | |||
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"Just carrying on the discussion from the global warming thread... I support putin and the special military operation in the Ukraine. I want a Russian victory. NATO and the Americans are to blame for the situation in Ukraine. Putin is an accomplished and popular leader. Russians support him. He was exactky correct when he called the west the empire of lies. I admire the history of the soviet union. I think Lenin and stalin were great and inspirational leaders I also support communist China and think chinas achievements prove that communism is not only workable but a far better system than capitalism and should replace it as the next step forward for civilisation. Xxxx That's nice, pleased for you.. Thank you xxx Your welcome.. My personal opinion is were all entitled to our own opinions no matter how vile they might be.. Better that people who share the aims and applaud the actions of a child murdering megalomaniac who has allowed his troops to pillage and ra#e women in an unlawful, unjustified war on another sovereign nation are out in the open and not dwelling in the gutter.. That way they are easy to spot.. " Are you referring to George w Bush? And Tony Blair? There is no evidence whatsoever that Russian troops have engaged in that of behaviour there is however overwhelming evidence including video evidence that ukranian troops have acted in that manner towards their own people and ethnic Russians. | |||
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"Just carrying on the discussion from the global warming thread... I support putin and the special military operation in the Ukraine. I want a Russian victory. NATO and the Americans are to blame for the situation in Ukraine. Putin is an accomplished and popular leader. Russians support him. He was exactky correct when he called the west the empire of lies. I admire the history of the soviet union. I think Lenin and stalin were great and inspirational leaders I also support communist China and think chinas achievements prove that communism is not only workable but a far better system than capitalism and should replace it as the next step forward for civilisation. Xxxx That's nice, pleased for you.. Thank you xxx Your welcome.. My personal opinion is were all entitled to our own opinions no matter how vile they might be.. Better that people who share the aims and applaud the actions of a child murdering megalomaniac who has allowed his troops to pillage and ra#e women in an unlawful, unjustified war on another sovereign nation are out in the open and not dwelling in the gutter.. That way they are easy to spot.. " | |||
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"This is why I tell my kids to never do drugs " I got news for you. They probably do. | |||
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"This is why I tell my kids to never do drugs I got news for you. They probably do. " I'm not sure why you are hanging around the forums, I thought you were in full support of the Russian invasion and I did expect you to be heading off in support with all the noise you have been spouting. Hold on, you're not in full support and believing in the Russian and Chinese ways of life from the comfort of your bedroom, are you? | |||
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"This is why I tell my kids to never do drugs I got news for you. They probably do. " What a nasty thing to say. | |||
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"Just carrying on the discussion from the global warming thread... I support putin and the special military operation in the Ukraine. I want a Russian victory. NATO and the Americans are to blame for the situation in Ukraine. Putin is an accomplished and popular leader. Russians support him. He was exactky correct when he called the west the empire of lies. I admire the history of the soviet union. I think Lenin and stalin were great and inspirational leaders I also support communist China and think chinas achievements prove that communism is not only workable but a far better system than capitalism and should replace it as the next step forward for civilisation. Xxxx " Hmmm Mao killed 70 m of his own people . Staling 9m , Putin he’s still racking them up but to give him credit they are mostly foreigners . Have you considered joining the Conservative party? They are always on the lookout for strong minded members with an interesting view of a how to subdue those pesky people who want free speech or not be sl4ves or in fact keep the money they earn rather than it being taken by the presidents and his mates. Still good job you’re here and not in China or Russia speaking your mind, as you will know being so up on such things, that’s not good for your health in those countries . | |||
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"Just carrying on the discussion from the global warming thread... I support putin and the special military operation in the Ukraine. I want a Russian victory. NATO and the Americans are to blame for the situation in Ukraine. Putin is an accomplished and popular leader. Russians support him. He was exactky correct when he called the west the empire of lies. I admire the history of the soviet union. I think Lenin and stalin were great and inspirational leaders I also support communist China and think chinas achievements prove that communism is not only workable but a far better system than capitalism and should replace it as the next step forward for civilisation. Xxxx So I take it you know that: 1) The Soviet Union (a Communist state) was pretty much undermined by people like Putin. 2) Russia is not a Communist state (far from it) So your OP appears to be somewhat confused or contradictory? What I take from your OP is that you are supportive of authoritarian regimes (ie NOT democracy). Is that right? 1. False 2. Yes of course I know that I am not opposed to authoritarian regimes per se,it very much depends on the nature of the regime and how it benefits the people 1. Not false true! The ex members of the KGB have made themselves very rich by appropriating the Soviet state owned assets. They undermined and bankrupted the Soviet state through corruption. An authoritarian regime by definition does not benefit the people. They lack free will or the power to determine their own destiny or decide what govt policy issues matter most to them. Putin sees himself as a modern day Tsar. The people of Russia are his serfs. He doesn’t wish to recreate the Soviet Union, he wants the power to control a comparative amount of territory. I didn’t read the climate change thread until now. Your posts are...interesting. Especially your love of Stalin. You realise of course that more people were murdered by Stalin’s regime than by Hitler’s Nazis right? I’m not saying one is worse than the other, they were both murdering bastards who persecuted racial groups and political opponents. Both evil. Both totalitarian regimes. 1 that's false but also incredibly funny to think that a bunch of kgb officials bankrupted an entire state. Putin has remained pretty honest and loyal to the soviet union and has more than not spoken warmly over its achievements. That's a western illogical fallacy and generalisation about authoritarianism. Putin doesn't see himself as a modern day Tsar, the guardian newspaper sees Putin as a modern day Tsar. There's a difference. He certainly does not regard his people as serfs, that's a very silly and immature thing to say never mind belueve. That's another myth and pretty much unproveable anyway. The Nazis killed and murdered 26 million soviet soldiers and civilians- that's half the population of the UK. So I thibk stalin had every right to seek vengeance against former nazis. Stalin was nothing like Hitler at all, that's just simply anti communist propaganda and really there to mitigate thd crimes of the Third reich. " My First Class (Hons) Degree in History says otherwise but you enjoy your fantasy world. Starting to sound like a Russian Bot. It may be an uncomfortable truth but I’m afraid the facts speak for themselves. Stalin and Hitler are more than comparable. They were simply two ends of an extremist circle. Extremism at any end of the political spectrum is dangerous and serves nobody except those in power. Also can you explain where the vast wealth of the Russian Oligarchs came from? And when you are doing that can you also explain Putin’s own wealth. Then once you have done that can you explain the links to the KGB. Thanks | |||
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"This is why I tell my kids to never do drugs I got news for you. They probably do. "I know this is only an anonymous forum on a swingers website but I can’t get over why he would make such a nasty and unnecessary comment. Revealing his real character I feel. | |||
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"This is why I tell my kids to never do drugs I got news for you. They probably do.
I know this is only an anonymous forum on a swingers website but I can’t get over why he would make such a nasty and unnecessary comment. Revealing his real character I feel. "It was a joke. Lighten up. The implication was I do drugs which isn't exactly a necessary or nice comment... But I'm not going to be a snowflake about it. I suggest you do the same. | |||
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If you cut out all the B.S. and 24/7 demonising propaganda and actual listen to his speeches, you see a measured, rational person that doesn't make idle boasts or threats and doesn't bluff. It's a shame we have no one of his caliber in the West.
Re the Soviet Union there are a good and bad things of course, and it's very telling that Putin himself has acknowledged the faults and virtues of the old system and has never shown any intention in reproducing it.
As far as China is concerned, no one can deny what their central, state planning has achieved in 30 years having lifted the equivalent of the E.U. population out of poverty and having eradicated extreme poverty. As a westerner, I don't agree with their collectivist mindset that minimises personal freedom, but their civilisational model is different and can't be judged by our standards. | |||
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"Just carrying on the discussion from the global warming thread... I support putin and the special military operation in the Ukraine. I want a Russian victory. NATO and the Americans are to blame for the situation in Ukraine. Putin is an accomplished and popular leader. Russians support him. He was exactky correct when he called the west the empire of lies. I admire the history of the soviet union. I think Lenin and stalin were great and inspirational leaders I also support communist China and think chinas achievements prove that communism is not only workable but a far better system than capitalism and should replace it as the next step forward for civilisation. Xxxx " I like the Russian people, unfortunately their ‘leader’ is an unhinged narcissist. | |||
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"This is why I tell my kids to never do drugs I got news for you. They probably do.
I know this is only an anonymous forum on a swingers website but I can’t get over why he would make such a nasty and unnecessary comment. Revealing his real character I feel.
It was a joke. Lighten up.
The implication was I do drugs which isn't exactly a necessary or nice comment... But I'm not going to be a snowflake about it. I suggest you do the same. "Putin is a bully and a killer. You lighten up. | |||
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"Just carrying on the discussion from the global warming thread... I support putin and the special military operation in the Ukraine. I want a Russian victory. NATO and the Americans are to blame for the situation in Ukraine. Putin is an accomplished and popular leader. Russians support him. He was exactky correct when he called the west the empire of lies. I admire the history of the soviet union. I think Lenin and stalin were great and inspirational leaders I also support communist China and think chinas achievements prove that communism is not only workable but a far better system than capitalism and should replace it as the next step forward for civilisation. Xxxx So I take it you know that: 1) The Soviet Union (a Communist state) was pretty much undermined by people like Putin. 2) Russia is not a Communist state (far from it) So your OP appears to be somewhat confused or contradictory? What I take from your OP is that you are supportive of authoritarian regimes (ie NOT democracy). Is that right? 1. False 2. Yes of course I know that I am not opposed to authoritarian regimes per se,it very much depends on the nature of the regime and how it benefits the people 1. Not false true! The ex members of the KGB have made themselves very rich by appropriating the Soviet state owned assets. They undermined and bankrupted the Soviet state through corruption. An authoritarian regime by definition does not benefit the people. They lack free will or the power to determine their own destiny or decide what govt policy issues matter most to them. Putin sees himself as a modern day Tsar. The people of Russia are his serfs. He doesn’t wish to recreate the Soviet Union, he wants the power to control a comparative amount of territory. I didn’t read the climate change thread until now. Your posts are...interesting. Especially your love of Stalin. You realise of course that more people were murdered by Stalin’s regime than by Hitler’s Nazis right? I’m not saying one is worse than the other, they were both murdering bastards who persecuted racial groups and political opponents. Both evil. Both totalitarian regimes. 1 that's false but also incredibly funny to think that a bunch of kgb officials bankrupted an entire state. Putin has remained pretty honest and loyal to the soviet union and has more than not spoken warmly over its achievements. That's a western illogical fallacy and generalisation about authoritarianism. Putin doesn't see himself as a modern day Tsar, the guardian newspaper sees Putin as a modern day Tsar. There's a difference. He certainly does not regard his people as serfs, that's a very silly and immature thing to say never mind belueve. That's another myth and pretty much unproveable anyway. The Nazis killed and murdered 26 million soviet soldiers and civilians- that's half the population of the UK. So I thibk stalin had every right to seek vengeance against former nazis. Stalin was nothing like Hitler at all, that's just simply anti communist propaganda and really there to mitigate thd crimes of the Third reich. My First Class (Hons) Degree in History says otherwise but you enjoy your fantasy world. Starting to sound like a Russian Bot. It may be an uncomfortable truth but I’m afraid the facts speak for themselves. Stalin and Hitler are more than comparable. They were simply two ends of an extremist circle. Extremism at any end of the political spectrum is dangerous and serves nobody except those in power. Also can you explain where the vast wealth of the Russian Oligarchs came from? And when you are doing that can you also explain Putin’s own wealth. Then once you have done that can you explain the links to the KGB. Thanks" Stalin and Hitler - one was a fascist dictatator and architect of a European world war and genocide who destroyed his own country and reduced his population from one of the wealthiest nations in the world to one of the most impoverished. The other was a guy who transformed an impoverished country into one of the strongest economies in the world and who on the way pioneered space travel, computers, architecture art and science whilst dramatically improving the lives of the people. Oh and who defeated the Nazis xliberater the death camps and saved Europe from tyranny.This is why Russia has thousands of revered statues of stalin... How many statues of Hitler are in Germany? The wealth of the oligarchs came from the decline of the soviet union where the free market was allowed to intervene in the state controlled economies, the fall of the soviet union led to wholesale corruption and the shock doctrine of Western capitalism this proved a disaster for Russia. I'm not interested in putins wealth, or is background in the kgb, yes he is wealthy, so is Nancy Pelosi, so is Tony Blair so is George w Bush and so is George soros. The important thing is what Putin achieved after the disaster of Yeltsin. He has transformed Russia from a victim of Western destabilisation and a bankrupt nation back to a works superpower with a robust and fierce economy | |||
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"Just carrying on the discussion from the global warming thread... I support putin and the special military operation in the Ukraine. I want a Russian victory. NATO and the Americans are to blame for the situation in Ukraine. Putin is an accomplished and popular leader. Russians support him. He was exactky correct when he called the west the empire of lies. I admire the history of the soviet union. I think Lenin and stalin were great and inspirational leaders I also support communist China and think chinas achievements prove that communism is not only workable but a far better system than capitalism and should replace it as the next step forward for civilisation. Xxxx So I take it you know that: 1) The Soviet Union (a Communist state) was pretty much undermined by people like Putin. 2) Russia is not a Communist state (far from it) So your OP appears to be somewhat confused or contradictory? What I take from your OP is that you are supportive of authoritarian regimes (ie NOT democracy). Is that right? 1. False 2. Yes of course I know that I am not opposed to authoritarian regimes per se,it very much depends on the nature of the regime and how it benefits the people 1. Not false true! The ex members of the KGB have made themselves very rich by appropriating the Soviet state owned assets. They undermined and bankrupted the Soviet state through corruption. An authoritarian regime by definition does not benefit the people. They lack free will or the power to determine their own destiny or decide what govt policy issues matter most to them. Putin sees himself as a modern day Tsar. The people of Russia are his serfs. He doesn’t wish to recreate the Soviet Union, he wants the power to control a comparative amount of territory. I didn’t read the climate change thread until now. Your posts are...interesting. Especially your love of Stalin. You realise of course that more people were murdered by Stalin’s regime than by Hitler’s Nazis right? I’m not saying one is worse than the other, they were both murdering bastards who persecuted racial groups and political opponents. Both evil. Both totalitarian regimes. 1 that's false but also incredibly funny to think that a bunch of kgb officials bankrupted an entire state. Putin has remained pretty honest and loyal to the soviet union and has more than not spoken warmly over its achievements. That's a western illogical fallacy and generalisation about authoritarianism. Putin doesn't see himself as a modern day Tsar, the guardian newspaper sees Putin as a modern day Tsar. There's a difference. He certainly does not regard his people as serfs, that's a very silly and immature thing to say never mind belueve. That's another myth and pretty much unproveable anyway. The Nazis killed and murdered 26 million soviet soldiers and civilians- that's half the population of the UK. So I thibk stalin had every right to seek vengeance against former nazis. Stalin was nothing like Hitler at all, that's just simply anti communist propaganda and really there to mitigate thd crimes of the Third reich. My First Class (Hons) Degree in History says otherwise but you enjoy your fantasy world. Starting to sound like a Russian Bot. It may be an uncomfortable truth but I’m afraid the facts speak for themselves. Stalin and Hitler are more than comparable. They were simply two ends of an extremist circle. Extremism at any end of the political spectrum is dangerous and serves nobody except those in power. Also can you explain where the vast wealth of the Russian Oligarchs came from? And when you are doing that can you also explain Putin’s own wealth. Then once you have done that can you explain the links to the KGB. Thanks Stalin and Hitler - one was a fascist dictatator and architect of a European world war and genocide who destroyed his own country and reduced his population from one of the wealthiest nations in the world to one of the most impoverished. The other was a guy who transformed an impoverished country into one of the strongest economies in the world and who on the way pioneered space travel, computers, architecture art and science whilst dramatically improving the lives of the people. Oh and who defeated the Nazis xliberater the death camps and saved Europe from tyranny.This is why Russia has thousands of revered statues of stalin... How many statues of Hitler are in Germany? The wealth of the oligarchs came from the decline of the soviet union where the free market was allowed to intervene in the state controlled economies, the fall of the soviet union led to wholesale corruption and the shock doctrine of Western capitalism this proved a disaster for Russia. I'm not interested in putins wealth, or is background in the kgb, yes he is wealthy, so is Nancy Pelosi, so is Tony Blair so is George w Bush and so is George soros. The important thing is what Putin achieved after the disaster of Yeltsin. He has transformed Russia from a victim of Western destabilisation and a bankrupt nation back to a works superpower with a robust and fierce economy " And for the record, Stalin wasn't even Russian. He was Georgian. | |||
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"This is why I tell my kids to never do drugs I got news for you. They probably do.
I know this is only an anonymous forum on a swingers website but I can’t get over why he would make such a nasty and unnecessary comment. Revealing his real character I feel.
It was a joke. Lighten up.
The implication was I do drugs which isn't exactly a necessary or nice comment... But I'm not going to be a snowflake about it. I suggest you do the same.
Putin is a bully and a killer. You lighten up."Ukraine deaths :4889 Afghan civilian deaths 140,000 Iraq civilian deaths 184,382 Putin isn't the only piriah | |||
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I know this is only an anonymous forum on a swingers website but I can’t get over why he would make such a nasty and unnecessary comment. Revealing his real character I feel.
It was a joke. Lighten up.
The implication was I do drugs which isn't exactly a necessary or nice comment... But I'm not going to be a snowflake about it. I suggest you do the same.
Putin is a bully and a killer. You lighten up.
Ukraine deaths :4889
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Iraq civilian deaths 184,382
Putin isn't the only piriah
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"Just carrying on the discussion from the global warming thread... I support putin and the special military operation in the Ukraine. I want a Russian victory. NATO and the Americans are to blame for the situation in Ukraine. Putin is an accomplished and popular leader. Russians support him. He was exactky correct when he called the west the empire of lies. I admire the history of the soviet union. I think Lenin and stalin were great and inspirational leaders I also support communist China and think chinas achievements prove that communism is not only workable but a far better system than capitalism and should replace it as the next step forward for civilisation. Xxxx So I take it you know that: 1) The Soviet Union (a Communist state) was pretty much undermined by people like Putin. 2) Russia is not a Communist state (far from it) So your OP appears to be somewhat confused or contradictory? What I take from your OP is that you are supportive of authoritarian regimes (ie NOT democracy). Is that right? 1. False 2. Yes of course I know that I am not opposed to authoritarian regimes per se,it very much depends on the nature of the regime and how it benefits the people 1. Not false true! The ex members of the KGB have made themselves very rich by appropriating the Soviet state owned assets. They undermined and bankrupted the Soviet state through corruption. An authoritarian regime by definition does not benefit the people. They lack free will or the power to determine their own destiny or decide what govt policy issues matter most to them. Putin sees himself as a modern day Tsar. The people of Russia are his serfs. He doesn’t wish to recreate the Soviet Union, he wants the power to control a comparative amount of territory. I didn’t read the climate change thread until now. Your posts are...interesting. Especially your love of Stalin. You realise of course that more people were murdered by Stalin’s regime than by Hitler’s Nazis right? I’m not saying one is worse than the other, they were both murdering bastards who persecuted racial groups and political opponents. Both evil. Both totalitarian regimes. 1 that's false but also incredibly funny to think that a bunch of kgb officials bankrupted an entire state. Putin has remained pretty honest and loyal to the soviet union and has more than not spoken warmly over its achievements. That's a western illogical fallacy and generalisation about authoritarianism. Putin doesn't see himself as a modern day Tsar, the guardian newspaper sees Putin as a modern day Tsar. There's a difference. He certainly does not regard his people as serfs, that's a very silly and immature thing to say never mind belueve. That's another myth and pretty much unproveable anyway. The Nazis killed and murdered 26 million soviet soldiers and civilians- that's half the population of the UK. So I thibk stalin had every right to seek vengeance against former nazis. Stalin was nothing like Hitler at all, that's just simply anti communist propaganda and really there to mitigate thd crimes of the Third reich. My First Class (Hons) Degree in History says otherwise but you enjoy your fantasy world. Starting to sound like a Russian Bot. It may be an uncomfortable truth but I’m afraid the facts speak for themselves. Stalin and Hitler are more than comparable. They were simply two ends of an extremist circle. Extremism at any end of the political spectrum is dangerous and serves nobody except those in power. Also can you explain where the vast wealth of the Russian Oligarchs came from? And when you are doing that can you also explain Putin’s own wealth. Then once you have done that can you explain the links to the KGB. Thanks Stalin and Hitler - one was a fascist dictatator and architect of a European world war and genocide who destroyed his own country and reduced his population from one of the wealthiest nations in the world to one of the most impoverished. The other was a guy who transformed an impoverished country into one of the strongest economies in the world and who on the way pioneered space travel, computers, architecture art and science whilst dramatically improving the lives of the people. Oh and who defeated the Nazis xliberater the death camps and saved Europe from tyranny.This is why Russia has thousands of revered statues of stalin... How many statues of Hitler are in Germany? The wealth of the oligarchs came from the decline of the soviet union where the free market was allowed to intervene in the state controlled economies, the fall of the soviet union led to wholesale corruption and the shock doctrine of Western capitalism this proved a disaster for Russia. I'm not interested in putins wealth, or is background in the kgb, yes he is wealthy, so is Nancy Pelosi, so is Tony Blair so is George w Bush and so is George soros. The important thing is what Putin achieved after the disaster of Yeltsin. He has transformed Russia from a victim of Western destabilisation and a bankrupt nation back to a works superpower with a robust and fierce economy " It really is amazing what can be achieved when you create/perpetuate a police state where everyone lives in fear and all opposition (or even opposing voices) are literally wiped out. With the full power of the state, the military, the police, the judiciary etc behind you, it would be astounding if you couldn’t achieve anything you wanted. BTW nobody (not me) is saying Western Politicians (inc Americans) are paragons of virtue, far from it, but trying to pain Putin as anything other than an evil bastard who got VERY rich appropriating (and helping friends/colleagues/supporters) state assets. 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"Just carrying on the discussion from the global warming thread... I support putin and the special military operation in the Ukraine. I want a Russian victory. NATO and the Americans are to blame for the situation in Ukraine. Putin is an accomplished and popular leader. Russians support him. He was exactky correct when he called the west the empire of lies. I admire the history of the soviet union. I think Lenin and stalin were great and inspirational leaders I also support communist China and think chinas achievements prove that communism is not only workable but a far better system than capitalism and should replace it as the next step forward for civilisation. Xxxx So I take it you know that: 1) The Soviet Union (a Communist state) was pretty much undermined by people like Putin. 2) Russia is not a Communist state (far from it) So your OP appears to be somewhat confused or contradictory? What I take from your OP is that you are supportive of authoritarian regimes (ie NOT democracy). Is that right? 1. False 2. Yes of course I know that I am not opposed to authoritarian regimes per se,it very much depends on the nature of the regime and how it benefits the people 1. Not false true! The ex members of the KGB have made themselves very rich by appropriating the Soviet state owned assets. They undermined and bankrupted the Soviet state through corruption. An authoritarian regime by definition does not benefit the people. They lack free will or the power to determine their own destiny or decide what govt policy issues matter most to them. Putin sees himself as a modern day Tsar. The people of Russia are his serfs. He doesn’t wish to recreate the Soviet Union, he wants the power to control a comparative amount of territory. I didn’t read the climate change thread until now. Your posts are...interesting. Especially your love of Stalin. You realise of course that more people were murdered by Stalin’s regime than by Hitler’s Nazis right? I’m not saying one is worse than the other, they were both murdering bastards who persecuted racial groups and political opponents. Both evil. Both totalitarian regimes. 1 that's false but also incredibly funny to think that a bunch of kgb officials bankrupted an entire state. Putin has remained pretty honest and loyal to the soviet union and has more than not spoken warmly over its achievements. That's a western illogical fallacy and generalisation about authoritarianism. Putin doesn't see himself as a modern day Tsar, the guardian newspaper sees Putin as a modern day Tsar. There's a difference. He certainly does not regard his people as serfs, that's a very silly and immature thing to say never mind belueve. That's another myth and pretty much unproveable anyway. The Nazis killed and murdered 26 million soviet soldiers and civilians- that's half the population of the UK. So I thibk stalin had every right to seek vengeance against former nazis. Stalin was nothing like Hitler at all, that's just simply anti communist propaganda and really there to mitigate thd crimes of the Third reich. My First Class (Hons) Degree in History says otherwise but you enjoy your fantasy world. Starting to sound like a Russian Bot. It may be an uncomfortable truth but I’m afraid the facts speak for themselves. Stalin and Hitler are more than comparable. They were simply two ends of an extremist circle. Extremism at any end of the political spectrum is dangerous and serves nobody except those in power. Also can you explain where the vast wealth of the Russian Oligarchs came from? And when you are doing that can you also explain Putin’s own wealth. Then once you have done that can you explain the links to the KGB. Thanks Stalin and Hitler - one was a fascist dictatator and architect of a European world war and genocide who destroyed his own country and reduced his population from one of the wealthiest nations in the world to one of the most impoverished. The other was a guy who transformed an impoverished country into one of the strongest economies in the world and who on the way pioneered space travel, computers, architecture art and science whilst dramatically improving the lives of the people. Oh and who defeated the Nazis xliberater the death camps and saved Europe from tyranny.This is why Russia has thousands of revered statues of stalin... How many statues of Hitler are in Germany? The wealth of the oligarchs came from the decline of the soviet union where the free market was allowed to intervene in the state controlled economies, the fall of the soviet union led to wholesale corruption and the shock doctrine of Western capitalism this proved a disaster for Russia. I'm not interested in putins wealth, or is background in the kgb, yes he is wealthy, so is Nancy Pelosi, so is Tony Blair so is George w Bush and so is George soros. The important thing is what Putin achieved after the disaster of Yeltsin. He has transformed Russia from a victim of Western destabilisation and a bankrupt nation back to a works superpower with a robust and fierce economy " Not a works super power at all. They can’t manufacture anything that anyone in their right mind would want to buy, not even a fridge. Dependant on China for cheap shit and the west for luxury goods. | |||
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"Just carrying on the discussion from the global warming thread... I support putin and the special military operation in the Ukraine. I want a Russian victory. NATO and the Americans are to blame for the situation in Ukraine. Putin is an accomplished and popular leader. Russians support him. He was exactky correct when he called the west the empire of lies. I admire the history of the soviet union. I think Lenin and stalin were great and inspirational leaders I also support communist China and think chinas achievements prove that communism is not only workable but a far better system than capitalism and should replace it as the next step forward for civilisation. Xxxx So I take it you know that: 1) The Soviet Union (a Communist state) was pretty much undermined by people like Putin. 2) Russia is not a Communist state (far from it) So your OP appears to be somewhat confused or contradictory? What I take from your OP is that you are supportive of authoritarian regimes (ie NOT democracy). Is that right? 1. False 2. Yes of course I know that I am not opposed to authoritarian regimes per se,it very much depends on the nature of the regime and how it benefits the people 1. Not false true! The ex members of the KGB have made themselves very rich by appropriating the Soviet state owned assets. They undermined and bankrupted the Soviet state through corruption. An authoritarian regime by definition does not benefit the people. They lack free will or the power to determine their own destiny or decide what govt policy issues matter most to them. Putin sees himself as a modern day Tsar. The people of Russia are his serfs. He doesn’t wish to recreate the Soviet Union, he wants the power to control a comparative amount of territory. I didn’t read the climate change thread until now. Your posts are...interesting. Especially your love of Stalin. You realise of course that more people were murdered by Stalin’s regime than by Hitler’s Nazis right? I’m not saying one is worse than the other, they were both murdering bastards who persecuted racial groups and political opponents. Both evil. Both totalitarian regimes. 1 that's false but also incredibly funny to think that a bunch of kgb officials bankrupted an entire state. Putin has remained pretty honest and loyal to the soviet union and has more than not spoken warmly over its achievements. That's a western illogical fallacy and generalisation about authoritarianism. Putin doesn't see himself as a modern day Tsar, the guardian newspaper sees Putin as a modern day Tsar. There's a difference. He certainly does not regard his people as serfs, that's a very silly and immature thing to say never mind belueve. That's another myth and pretty much unproveable anyway. The Nazis killed and murdered 26 million soviet soldiers and civilians- that's half the population of the UK. So I thibk stalin had every right to seek vengeance against former nazis. Stalin was nothing like Hitler at all, that's just simply anti communist propaganda and really there to mitigate thd crimes of the Third reich. My First Class (Hons) Degree in History says otherwise but you enjoy your fantasy world. Starting to sound like a Russian Bot. It may be an uncomfortable truth but I’m afraid the facts speak for themselves. Stalin and Hitler are more than comparable. They were simply two ends of an extremist circle. Extremism at any end of the political spectrum is dangerous and serves nobody except those in power. Also can you explain where the vast wealth of the Russian Oligarchs came from? And when you are doing that can you also explain Putin’s own wealth. Then once you have done that can you explain the links to the KGB. Thanks Stalin and Hitler - one was a fascist dictatator and architect of a European world war and genocide who destroyed his own country and reduced his population from one of the wealthiest nations in the world to one of the most impoverished. The other was a guy who transformed an impoverished country into one of the strongest economies in the world and who on the way pioneered space travel, computers, architecture art and science whilst dramatically improving the lives of the people. Oh and who defeated the Nazis xliberater the death camps and saved Europe from tyranny.This is why Russia has thousands of revered statues of stalin... How many statues of Hitler are in Germany? The wealth of the oligarchs came from the decline of the soviet union where the free market was allowed to intervene in the state controlled economies, the fall of the soviet union led to wholesale corruption and the shock doctrine of Western capitalism this proved a disaster for Russia. I'm not interested in putins wealth, or is background in the kgb, yes he is wealthy, so is Nancy Pelosi, so is Tony Blair so is George w Bush and so is George soros. The important thing is what Putin achieved after the disaster of Yeltsin. He has transformed Russia from a victim of Western destabilisation and a bankrupt nation back to a works superpower with a robust and fierce economy Not a works super power at all. They can’t manufacture anything that anyone in their right mind would want to buy, not even a fridge. Dependant on China for cheap shit and the west for luxury goods. " This.. Go outside the big cities and in one of the world's biggest suppliers of gas, people in villages don't have their own gas piped in and basic facilities.. The oligarchs and Putin have like a Mafia taken control of the wealth and acting like the Tsars.. | |||
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" Ukraine deaths :4889 Afghan civilian deaths 140,000 Iraq civilian deaths 184,382 I and hundreds of thousands marched against the coming gulf war, I will never accept it was justified.. Interesting that I and millions of others were able to do that yet if you try that in Moscow or St Petersburg your off to jail.. Playing top trumps with deaths of innocent people is no excuse for what's going on at present.. It's as wrong as when Hitler marched into Poland.. " Just saying.. pot, kettle, black | |||
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"Just carrying on the discussion from the global warming thread... I support putin and the special military operation in the Ukraine. I want a Russian victory. NATO and the Americans are to blame for the situation in Ukraine. Putin is an accomplished and popular leader. Russians support him. He was exactky correct when he called the west the empire of lies. I admire the history of the soviet union. I think Lenin and stalin were great and inspirational leaders I also support communist China and think chinas achievements prove that communism is not only workable but a far better system than capitalism and should replace it as the next step forward for civilisation. Xxxx Hmmm Mao killed 70 m of his own people . Staling 9m , Putin he’s still racking them up but to give him credit they are mostly foreigners . Have you considered joining the Conservative party? They are always on the lookout for strong minded members with an interesting view of a how to subdue those pesky people who want free speech or not be sl4ves or in fact keep the money they earn rather than it being taken by the presidents and his mates. Still good job you’re here and not in China or Russia speaking your mind, as you will know being so up on such things, that’s not good for your health in those countries . " Now talk about Julian Assange who is currently in belmarsh prison for reporting on usa war crimes, us torture and assassination programme. Surely that only happens in Russia? What happened to Julian asssanges free speech? Come on don't be shy tell me about Julian Assange freedom of speech and freedom to report on us war crimes... | |||
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" Ukraine deaths :4889 Afghan civilian deaths 140,000 Iraq civilian deaths 184,382 I and hundreds of thousands marched against the coming gulf war, I will never accept it was justified.. Interesting that I and millions of others were able to do that yet if you try that in Moscow or St Petersburg your off to jail.. Playing top trumps with deaths of innocent people is no excuse for what's going on at present.. It's as wrong as when Hitler marched into Poland.. " No you arent. The fact is that 90% of Russians support the military intervention In Ukraine despite western lies and propaganda to the contrary | |||
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" Ukraine deaths :4889 Afghan civilian deaths 140,000 Iraq civilian deaths 184,382 I and hundreds of thousands marched against the coming gulf war, I will never accept it was justified.. Interesting that I and millions of others were able to do that yet if you try that in Moscow or St Petersburg your off to jail.. Playing top trumps with deaths of innocent people is no excuse for what's going on at present.. It's as wrong as when Hitler marched into Poland.. No you arent. The fact is that 90% of Russians support the military intervention In Ukraine despite western lies and propaganda to the contrary " How do you know they do? Are you honestly naive enough to believe their polls ? | |||
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" Ukraine deaths :4889 Afghan civilian deaths 140,000 Iraq civilian deaths 184,382 I and hundreds of thousands marched against the coming gulf war, I will never accept it was justified.. Interesting that I and millions of others were able to do that yet if you try that in Moscow or St Petersburg your off to jail.. Playing top trumps with deaths of innocent people is no excuse for what's going on at present.. It's as wrong as when Hitler marched into Poland.. No you arent. The fact is that 90% of Russians support the military intervention In Ukraine despite western lies and propaganda to the contrary How do you know they do? Are you honestly naive enough to believe their polls ? " Every poll suggests that. Its self evident in the popularity of Putin and the surge in rallies of support. The action in Ukraine is overwhelmingly supported. Z Z | |||
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" Ukraine deaths :4889 Afghan civilian deaths 140,000 Iraq civilian deaths 184,382 I and hundreds of thousands marched against the coming gulf war, I will never accept it was justified.. Interesting that I and millions of others were able to do that yet if you try that in Moscow or St Petersburg your off to jail.. Playing top trumps with deaths of innocent people is no excuse for what's going on at present.. It's as wrong as when Hitler marched into Poland.. No you arent. The fact is that 90% of Russians support the military intervention In Ukraine despite western lies and propaganda to the contrary How do you know they do? Are you honestly naive enough to believe their polls ? Every poll suggests that. Its self evident in the popularity of Putin and the surge in rallies of support. The action in Ukraine is overwhelmingly supported. Z Z" So you are naive enough to believe their polls? No wonder your confused , who is the opposition party leader in Russia? | |||
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"Just carrying on the discussion from the global warming thread... I support putin and the special military operation in the Ukraine. I want a Russian victory. NATO and the Americans are to blame for the situation in Ukraine. Putin is an accomplished and popular leader. Russians support him. He was exactky correct when he called the west the empire of lies. I admire the history of the soviet union. I think Lenin and stalin were great and inspirational leaders I also support communist China and think chinas achievements prove that communism is not only workable but a far better system than capitalism and should replace it as the next step forward for civilisation. Xxxx So I take it you know that: 1) The Soviet Union (a Communist state) was pretty much undermined by people like Putin. 2) Russia is not a Communist state (far from it) So your OP appears to be somewhat confused or contradictory? What I take from your OP is that you are supportive of authoritarian regimes (ie NOT democracy). Is that right? 1. False 2. Yes of course I know that I am not opposed to authoritarian regimes per se,it very much depends on the nature of the regime and how it benefits the people 1. Not false true! The ex members of the KGB have made themselves very rich by appropriating the Soviet state owned assets. They undermined and bankrupted the Soviet state through corruption. An authoritarian regime by definition does not benefit the people. They lack free will or the power to determine their own destiny or decide what govt policy issues matter most to them. Putin sees himself as a modern day Tsar. The people of Russia are his serfs. He doesn’t wish to recreate the Soviet Union, he wants the power to control a comparative amount of territory. I didn’t read the climate change thread until now. Your posts are...interesting. Especially your love of Stalin. You realise of course that more people were murdered by Stalin’s regime than by Hitler’s Nazis right? I’m not saying one is worse than the other, they were both murdering bastards who persecuted racial groups and political opponents. Both evil. Both totalitarian regimes. 1 that's false but also incredibly funny to think that a bunch of kgb officials bankrupted an entire state. Putin has remained pretty honest and loyal to the soviet union and has more than not spoken warmly over its achievements. That's a western illogical fallacy and generalisation about authoritarianism. Putin doesn't see himself as a modern day Tsar, the guardian newspaper sees Putin as a modern day Tsar. There's a difference. He certainly does not regard his people as serfs, that's a very silly and immature thing to say never mind belueve. That's another myth and pretty much unproveable anyway. The Nazis killed and murdered 26 million soviet soldiers and civilians- that's half the population of the UK. So I thibk stalin had every right to seek vengeance against former nazis. Stalin was nothing like Hitler at all, that's just simply anti communist propaganda and really there to mitigate thd crimes of the Third reich. My First Class (Hons) Degree in History says otherwise but you enjoy your fantasy world. Starting to sound like a Russian Bot. It may be an uncomfortable truth but I’m afraid the facts speak for themselves. Stalin and Hitler are more than comparable. They were simply two ends of an extremist circle. Extremism at any end of the political spectrum is dangerous and serves nobody except those in power. Also can you explain where the vast wealth of the Russian Oligarchs came from? And when you are doing that can you also explain Putin’s own wealth. Then once you have done that can you explain the links to the KGB. Thanks Stalin and Hitler - one was a fascist dictatator and architect of a European world war and genocide who destroyed his own country and reduced his population from one of the wealthiest nations in the world to one of the most impoverished. The other was a guy who transformed an impoverished country into one of the strongest economies in the world and who on the way pioneered space travel, computers, architecture art and science whilst dramatically improving the lives of the people. Oh and who defeated the Nazis xliberater the death camps and saved Europe from tyranny.This is why Russia has thousands of revered statues of stalin... How many statues of Hitler are in Germany? The wealth of the oligarchs came from the decline of the soviet union where the free market was allowed to intervene in the state controlled economies, the fall of the soviet union led to wholesale corruption and the shock doctrine of Western capitalism this proved a disaster for Russia. I'm not interested in putins wealth, or is background in the kgb, yes he is wealthy, so is Nancy Pelosi, so is Tony Blair so is George w Bush and so is George soros. The important thing is what Putin achieved after the disaster of Yeltsin. He has transformed Russia from a victim of Western destabilisation and a bankrupt nation back to a works superpower with a robust and fierce economy Not a works super power at all. They can’t manufacture anything that anyone in their right mind would want to buy, not even a fridge. Dependant on China for cheap shit and the west for luxury goods. This.. Go outside the big cities and in one of the world's biggest suppliers of gas, people in villages don't have their own gas piped in and basic facilities.. The oligarchs and Putin have like a Mafia taken control of the wealth and acting like the Tsars.." Thats just nonsense. If you visit Russia you will see that S simply not true. You are just spouting infantile remarks. | |||
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"Just carrying on the discussion from the global warming thread... I support putin and the special military operation in the Ukraine. I want a Russian victory. NATO and the Americans are to blame for the situation in Ukraine. Putin is an accomplished and popular leader. Russians support him. He was exactky correct when he called the west the empire of lies. I admire the history of the soviet union. I think Lenin and stalin were great and inspirational leaders I also support communist China and think chinas achievements prove that communism is not only workable but a far better system than capitalism and should replace it as the next step forward for civilisation. Xxxx So I take it you know that: 1) The Soviet Union (a Communist state) was pretty much undermined by people like Putin. 2) Russia is not a Communist state (far from it) So your OP appears to be somewhat confused or contradictory? What I take from your OP is that you are supportive of authoritarian regimes (ie NOT democracy). Is that right? 1. False 2. Yes of course I know that I am not opposed to authoritarian regimes per se,it very much depends on the nature of the regime and how it benefits the people 1. Not false true! The ex members of the KGB have made themselves very rich by appropriating the Soviet state owned assets. They undermined and bankrupted the Soviet state through corruption. An authoritarian regime by definition does not benefit the people. They lack free will or the power to determine their own destiny or decide what govt policy issues matter most to them. Putin sees himself as a modern day Tsar. The people of Russia are his serfs. He doesn’t wish to recreate the Soviet Union, he wants the power to control a comparative amount of territory. I didn’t read the climate change thread until now. Your posts are...interesting. Especially your love of Stalin. You realise of course that more people were murdered by Stalin’s regime than by Hitler’s Nazis right? I’m not saying one is worse than the other, they were both murdering bastards who persecuted racial groups and political opponents. Both evil. Both totalitarian regimes. 1 that's false but also incredibly funny to think that a bunch of kgb officials bankrupted an entire state. Putin has remained pretty honest and loyal to the soviet union and has more than not spoken warmly over its achievements. That's a western illogical fallacy and generalisation about authoritarianism. Putin doesn't see himself as a modern day Tsar, the guardian newspaper sees Putin as a modern day Tsar. There's a difference. He certainly does not regard his people as serfs, that's a very silly and immature thing to say never mind belueve. That's another myth and pretty much unproveable anyway. The Nazis killed and murdered 26 million soviet soldiers and civilians- that's half the population of the UK. So I thibk stalin had every right to seek vengeance against former nazis. Stalin was nothing like Hitler at all, that's just simply anti communist propaganda and really there to mitigate thd crimes of the Third reich. My First Class (Hons) Degree in History says otherwise but you enjoy your fantasy world. Starting to sound like a Russian Bot. It may be an uncomfortable truth but I’m afraid the facts speak for themselves. Stalin and Hitler are more than comparable. They were simply two ends of an extremist circle. Extremism at any end of the political spectrum is dangerous and serves nobody except those in power. Also can you explain where the vast wealth of the Russian Oligarchs came from? And when you are doing that can you also explain Putin’s own wealth. Then once you have done that can you explain the links to the KGB. Thanks Stalin and Hitler - one was a fascist dictatator and architect of a European world war and genocide who destroyed his own country and reduced his population from one of the wealthiest nations in the world to one of the most impoverished. The other was a guy who transformed an impoverished country into one of the strongest economies in the world and who on the way pioneered space travel, computers, architecture art and science whilst dramatically improving the lives of the people. Oh and who defeated the Nazis xliberater the death camps and saved Europe from tyranny.This is why Russia has thousands of revered statues of stalin... How many statues of Hitler are in Germany? The wealth of the oligarchs came from the decline of the soviet union where the free market was allowed to intervene in the state controlled economies, the fall of the soviet union led to wholesale corruption and the shock doctrine of Western capitalism this proved a disaster for Russia. I'm not interested in putins wealth, or is background in the kgb, yes he is wealthy, so is Nancy Pelosi, so is Tony Blair so is George w Bush and so is George soros. The important thing is what Putin achieved after the disaster of Yeltsin. He has transformed Russia from a victim of Western destabilisation and a bankrupt nation back to a works superpower with a robust and fierce economy Not a works super power at all. They can’t manufacture anything that anyone in their right mind would want to buy, not even a fridge. Dependant on China for cheap shit and the west for luxury goods. This.. Go outside the big cities and in one of the world's biggest suppliers of gas, people in villages don't have their own gas piped in and basic facilities.. The oligarchs and Putin have like a Mafia taken control of the wealth and acting like the Tsars.. Thats just nonsense. If you visit Russia you will see that S simply not true. You are just spouting infantile remarks." 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"Putin recently called the west "the empire of lies" seems the people on this thread need to pay attention as they are simply regurgitating western lies and propaganda. Come on people do better lol " Is this the same Putin who denied state funded drug cheating in athletics, he has been known to talk bollocks | |||
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"Putin recently called the west "the empire of lies" seems the people on this thread need to pay attention as they are simply regurgitating western lies and propaganda. Come on people do better lol Is this the same Putin who denied state funded drug cheating in athletics, he has been known to talk bollocks " I dont actually know much about that, drugs are a major problem in sports, I think that's a universal problem but I personally think thd Olympic games have become far too politicised and I think their is clear corruption at every level. | |||
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" Ukraine deaths :4889 Afghan civilian deaths 140,000 Iraq civilian deaths 184,382 I and hundreds of thousands marched against the coming gulf war, I will never accept it was justified.. Interesting that I and millions of others were able to do that yet if you try that in Moscow or St Petersburg your off to jail.. Playing top trumps with deaths of innocent people is no excuse for what's going on at present.. It's as wrong as when Hitler marched into Poland.. No you arent. The fact is that 90% of Russians support the military intervention In Ukraine despite western lies and propaganda to the contrary How do you know they do? Are you honestly naive enough to believe their polls ? " This .. | |||
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" Ukraine deaths :4889 Afghan civilian deaths 140,000 Iraq civilian deaths 184,382 I and hundreds of thousands marched against the coming gulf war, I will never accept it was justified.. Interesting that I and millions of others were able to do that yet if you try that in Moscow or St Petersburg your off to jail.. Playing top trumps with deaths of innocent people is no excuse for what's going on at present.. It's as wrong as when Hitler marched into Poland.. No you arent. The fact is that 90% of Russians support the military intervention In Ukraine despite western lies and propaganda to the contrary How do you know they do? Are you honestly naive enough to believe their polls ? Every poll suggests that. Its self evident in the popularity of Putin and the surge in rallies of support. The action in Ukraine is overwhelmingly supported. Z Z" Your zz looks ironically like ss.. | |||
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"Putin recently called the west "the empire of lies" seems the people on this thread need to pay attention as they are simply regurgitating western lies and propaganda. Come on people do better lol Is this the same Putin who denied state funded drug cheating in athletics, he has been known to talk bollocks I dont actually know much about that, drugs are a major problem in sports, I think that's a universal problem but I personally think thd Olympic games have become far too politicised and I think their is clear corruption at every level. " I thought you were an expert on Russia ? Do you know the name of the leader of the opposition politically party? | |||
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"Putin recently called the west "the empire of lies" seems the people on this thread need to pay attention as they are simply regurgitating western lies and propaganda. Come on people do better lol Is this the same Putin who denied state funded drug cheating in athletics, he has been known to talk bollocks I dont actually know much about that, drugs are a major problem in sports, I think that's a universal problem but I personally think thd Olympic games have become far too politicised and I think their is clear corruption at every level. " State sponsored cheating. Assassinations on UK soil, poisoning, mysterious falls from hotel balconies, cyber attacks. It’s so tedious and simply the actions of a bunch of dull nasty cunts. May their cruel days soon end and give good Russians the chance to join the 21st century. | |||
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"Putin recently called the west "the empire of lies" seems the people on this thread need to pay attention as they are simply regurgitating western lies and propaganda. Come on people do better lol Is this the same Putin who denied state funded drug cheating in athletics, he has been known to talk bollocks I dont actually know much about that, drugs are a major problem in sports, I think that's a universal problem but I personally think thd Olympic games have become far too politicised and I think their is clear corruption at every level. State sponsored cheating. Assassinations on UK soil, poisoning, mysterious falls from hotel balconies, cyber attacks. It’s so tedious and simply the actions of a bunch of dull nasty cunts. May their cruel days soon end and give good Russians the chance to join the 21st century." Can you prove ANY of those claims? I believe Tony Blair had Dr Kelly murdered by Mi5 for leaking the Iraq war weapons of mass destruction fakery. I can't prove it. So I'm not going to state it as a fact. Russians are in the 21st century, you are clearly living in some 1960s cold War spy drama. Wake up to the real world.... | |||
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"Putin recently called the west "the empire of lies" seems the people on this thread need to pay attention as they are simply regurgitating western lies and propaganda. Come on people do better lol Is this the same Putin who denied state funded drug cheating in athletics, he has been known to talk bollocks I dont actually know much about that, drugs are a major problem in sports, I think that's a universal problem but I personally think thd Olympic games have become far too politicised and I think their is clear corruption at every level. State sponsored cheating. Assassinations on UK soil, poisoning, mysterious falls from hotel balconies, cyber attacks. It’s so tedious and simply the actions of a bunch of dull nasty cunts. May their cruel days soon end and give good Russians the chance to join the 21st century. Can you prove ANY of those claims? I believe Tony Blair had Dr Kelly murdered by Mi5 for leaking the Iraq war weapons of mass destruction fakery. I can't prove it. So I'm not going to state it as a fact. Russians are in the 21st century, you are clearly living in some 1960s cold War spy drama. Wake up to the real world.... " Why don’t you volunteer to go and join the Russian army as you believe so much in their cause. | |||
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" Why don’t you volunteer to go and join the Russian army as you believe so much in their cause. If I lived In Ukraine I might just do that. The Russians already have a odessa brigade comprised entirely of ukranians sick of the corruption of zelensky, the neo nazis and the meddling western govts. Of course there is no mention of this in the "free" western press. " Out of interest why do you love Russia? Have you been there? | |||
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"What are you hoping to gain from such a thread...? Getting put on a Special Branch watch list?" That only happens in putins Russia remember.... | |||
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" Why don’t you volunteer to go and join the Russian army as you believe so much in their cause. If I lived In Ukraine I might just do that. The Russians already have a odessa brigade comprised entirely of ukranians sick of the corruption of zelensky, the neo nazis and the meddling western govts. Of course there is no mention of this in the "free" western press. Out of interest why do you love Russia? Have you been there? " Yes I've been there. I only put that because I'm depressed seeing all the Russian hate. Its so sad how we are being propagandised to hate a country. Same goes for China. | |||
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" Why don’t you volunteer to go and join the Russian army as you believe so much in their cause. If I lived In Ukraine I might just do that. The Russians already have a odessa brigade comprised entirely of ukranians sick of the corruption of zelensky, the neo nazis and the meddling western govts. Of course there is no mention of this in the "free" western press. Out of interest why do you love Russia? Have you been there? Yes I've been there. I only put that because I'm depressed seeing all the Russian hate. Its so sad how we are being propagandised to hate a country. Same goes for China. " I think most of us are more than capable of forming an opinion and are not swayed by propaganda. | |||
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"Wagner and Chechen brigades, hope one is North and the other South. Don't see them seeing eye to eye. Also, why mention the Azov Brigade, it can't be a Nazi brigade as according to Putin it has been destroyed and no longer exists. OP, nothing stopping you packing your bags and going to live in one of those countries, or are you waiting for your dream ticket to North Korea. " The azov is just one of many neo nazi affiliated groups operating in the Ukraine military. I dont answer asinine remarks tbh. | |||
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"I notice the OP has avoided answering: 1) Are you Russian 2) Have you ever been to Russia Makes you wonder "1 - no 2- yes | |||
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" Why don’t you volunteer to go and join the Russian army as you believe so much in their cause. If I lived In Ukraine I might just do that. The Russians already have a odessa brigade comprised entirely of ukranians sick of the corruption of zelensky, the neo nazis and the meddling western govts. Of course there is no mention of this in the "free" western press. Out of interest why do you love Russia? Have you been there? Yes I've been there. I only put that because I'm depressed seeing all the Russian hate. Its so sad how we are being propagandised to hate a country. Same goes for China. " Well they did invade Ukraine so there is that... | |||
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"Just carrying on the discussion from the global warming thread... I support putin and the special military operation in the Ukraine. I want a Russian victory. NATO and the Americans are to blame for the situation in Ukraine. Putin is an accomplished and popular leader. Russians support him. He was exactky correct when he called the west the empire of lies. I admire the history of the soviet union. I think Lenin and stalin were great and inspirational leaders I also support communist China and think chinas achievements prove that communism is not only workable but a far better system than capitalism and should replace it as the next step forward for civilisation. Xxxx Hmmm Mao killed 70 m of his own people . Staling 9m , Putin he’s still racking them up but to give him credit they are mostly foreigners . Have you considered joining the Conservative party? They are always on the lookout for strong minded members with an interesting view of a how to subdue those pesky people who want free speech or not be sl4ves or in fact keep the money they earn rather than it being taken by the presidents and his mates. Still good job you’re here and not in China or Russia speaking your mind, as you will know being so up on such things, that’s not good for your health in those countries . Now talk about Julian Assange who is currently in belmarsh prison for reporting on usa war crimes, us torture and assassination programme. Surely that only happens in Russia? What happened to Julian asssanges free speech? Come on don't be shy tell me about Julian Assange freedom of speech and freedom to report on us war crimes... " Now let me compare one man who aided the release of both disgraceful behaviour of western governments but also the reckless release of critical security details . So whilst I agree the U.K. government are sucking up to the US I’m not sympathetic to julian because he was too reckless with such information. As for free speech . It’s not a free for all right in this country and Julian was well aware of the law on this so could have edited the release but chose not to . Under Article 10 of the Human Rights Act 1998, “everyone has the right to freedom of expression” in the UK. The law goes on to say that this freedom “may be subject to formalities, conditions, restrictions or penalties as are prescribed by law and are necessary in a democratic society." These may be “in the interests of national security, territorial integrity or public safety, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, for the protection of the reputation or rights of others, for preventing the disclosure of information received in confidence, for maintaining the authority and impartiality of the judiciary.” Also are you comparing one U.K. individual to the labour camps of China or the clamp down of freedoms and press in Hong Kong?? Not quite on the same level is it. I do not defend any war crimes by the U.K. or US. I’m also against the obscene plan regarding Rwanda just for the record . How’s the opposition leader doing in that Siberian prison? It’s the same as imprisoning Kier Starmer for saying Boris is full of shit. Has Julian been poisoned yet? How did Putin afford his yachts and luxuries on his salary ? It’s called extortion. Boris is a twat but not in that league. | |||
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"I notice the OP has avoided answering: 1) Are you Russian 2) Have you ever been to Russia Makes you wonder
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"I notice the OP has avoided answering: 1) Are you Russian 2) Have you ever been to Russia Makes you wonder
1 - no
2- yes
At last. So...
1) How many Russian friends do you have (actual friends)?
2) How many times have you been to Russia, where and for how long?"He did say in another thread that he has Russian heritage. His grandfather is from Russia who told him how great life was under Soviet Union. | |||
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" Why don’t you volunteer to go and join the Russian army as you believe so much in their cause. If I lived In Ukraine I might just do that. The Russians already have a odessa brigade comprised entirely of ukranians sick of the corruption of zelensky, the neo nazis and the meddling western govts. Of course there is no mention of this in the "free" western press. Out of interest why do you love Russia? Have you been there? Yes I've been there. I only put that because I'm depressed seeing all the Russian hate. Its so sad how we are being propagandised to hate a country. Same goes for China. " I don’t hate Russia, I don’t hate the Russian people, Putin is a dictator and dictators are never good for a country | |||
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1 - no
2- yes
At last. So...
1) How many Russian friends do you have (actual friends)?
2) How many times have you been to Russia, where and for how long?"Happy to chat about that with your gf over a drink in brighton. But it's not really relevant to the discussion. . | |||
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"Just carrying on the discussion from the global warming thread... I support putin and the special military operation in the Ukraine. I want a Russian victory. NATO and the Americans are to blame for the situation in Ukraine. Putin is an accomplished and popular leader. Russians support him. He was exactky correct when he called the west the empire of lies. I admire the history of the soviet union. I think Lenin and stalin were great and inspirational leaders I also support communist China and think chinas achievements prove that communism is not only workable but a far better system than capitalism and should replace it as the next step forward for civilisation. Xxxx Hmmm Mao killed 70 m of his own people . Staling 9m , Putin he’s still racking them up but to give him credit they are mostly foreigners . Have you considered joining the Conservative party? They are always on the lookout for strong minded members with an interesting view of a how to subdue those pesky people who want free speech or not be sl4ves or in fact keep the money they earn rather than it being taken by the presidents and his mates. Still good job you’re here and not in China or Russia speaking your mind, as you will know being so up on such things, that’s not good for your health in those countries . Now talk about Julian Assange who is currently in belmarsh prison for reporting on usa war crimes, us torture and assassination programme. Surely that only happens in Russia? What happened to Julian asssanges free speech? Come on don't be shy tell me about Julian Assange freedom of speech and freedom to report on us war crimes... Now let me compare one man who aided the release of both disgraceful behaviour of western governments but also the reckless release of critical security details . So whilst I agree the U.K. government are sucking up to the US I’m not sympathetic to julian because he was too reckless with such information. As for free speech . It’s not a free for all right in this country and Julian was well aware of the law on this so could have edited the release but chose not to . Under Article 10 of the Human Rights Act 1998, “everyone has the right to freedom of expression” in the UK. The law goes on to say that this freedom “may be subject to formalities, conditions, restrictions or penalties as are prescribed by law and are necessary in a democratic society." These may be “in the interests of national security, territorial integrity or public safety, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, for the protection of the reputation or rights of others, for preventing the disclosure of information received in confidence, for maintaining the authority and impartiality of the judiciary.” Also are you comparing one U.K. individual to the labour camps of China or the clamp down of freedoms and press in Hong Kong?? Not quite on the same level is it. I do not defend any war crimes by the U.K. or US. I’m also against the obscene plan regarding Rwanda just for the record . How’s the opposition leader doing in that Siberian prison? It’s the same as imprisoning Kier Starmer for saying Boris is full of shit. Has Julian been poisoned yet? How did Putin afford his yachts and luxuries on his salary ? It’s called extortion. Boris is a twat but not in that league. " So you think that wiki leaks should not be releasing videos that show us forces committing war crimes or documents that show evidence of torture or attempted coups, regime change operations and cover ups by the United States and their allies ... You think the public should not know about these things? You thibk we should not be informed what our govts and military get up to... Instead you think we should focus instead on hong Kong where the CIA have been instigating discontent and anti Chinese sentiment and which has nothing to do with the UK. Or on some obscure camps in China which also have nothing at all to do with the UK in any way, shape or form. It's none of our business. So whilst we fly immigrants to Rwanda, murder leaders such as gaddafi, torture people in guantanamo Bay, stage coups across the world and consistently lie to the public you want to talk about an opposition figure in Russian who is comfortably behind bars on numerous charges and who the evidence suggests is more than likely backed and controlled by the usa. Like zekensky is. So Putin is wealthy, but so is Tony Blair. Who more than likely had Dr David Kelly murdered to start a war in Iraq which killed and displaced up to a million people and which he still won't apologise for and in fact will soon be knighted for. But that's of course not in putins league.... Remind me who is the actual war criminal and murderer again? Yeah so a Russian dissident gets killed in London. Its easier to blame Putin than look into all the shady deals and bad money and shady history thd individual was involved in. I mean let's not go into the death of maxwell, lady Diana or the strange career of Jimmy Saville because Britain if anything is certainly not corrupt or dodgy. And as for sleaze, well come on that's not really relevant, despite the obvious govt paedophiles like Cyril Smith... I mean come on Putin is the danger here. I mean he believes in traditional values and calls the west decadent. That's just not cricket. | |||
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1 - no
2- yes
At last. So...
1) How many Russian friends do you have (actual friends)?
2) How many times have you been to Russia, where and for how long?
Happy to chat about that with your gf over a drink in brighton. But it's not really relevant to the discussion. .
"Lol  Pretty certain my wife would not click with someone who is supportive of dictatorships and totalitarian regimes.
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"Just carrying on the discussion from the global warming thread... I support putin and the special military operation in the Ukraine. I want a Russian victory. NATO and the Americans are to blame for the situation in Ukraine. Putin is an accomplished and popular leader. Russians support him. He was exactky correct when he called the west the empire of lies. I admire the history of the soviet union. I think Lenin and stalin were great and inspirational leaders I also support communist China and think chinas achievements prove that communism is not only workable but a far better system than capitalism and should replace it as the next step forward for civilisation. Xxxx Hmmm Mao killed 70 m of his own people . Staling 9m , Putin he’s still racking them up but to give him credit they are mostly foreigners . Have you considered joining the Conservative party? They are always on the lookout for strong minded members with an interesting view of a how to subdue those pesky people who want free speech or not be sl4ves or in fact keep the money they earn rather than it being taken by the presidents and his mates. Still good job you’re here and not in China or Russia speaking your mind, as you will know being so up on such things, that’s not good for your health in those countries . Now talk about Julian Assange who is currently in belmarsh prison for reporting on usa war crimes, us torture and assassination programme. Surely that only happens in Russia? What happened to Julian asssanges free speech? Come on don't be shy tell me about Julian Assange freedom of speech and freedom to report on us war crimes... Now let me compare one man who aided the release of both disgraceful behaviour of western governments but also the reckless release of critical security details . So whilst I agree the U.K. government are sucking up to the US I’m not sympathetic to julian because he was too reckless with such information. As for free speech . It’s not a free for all right in this country and Julian was well aware of the law on this so could have edited the release but chose not to . Under Article 10 of the Human Rights Act 1998, “everyone has the right to freedom of expression” in the UK. The law goes on to say that this freedom “may be subject to formalities, conditions, restrictions or penalties as are prescribed by law and are necessary in a democratic society." These may be “in the interests of national security, territorial integrity or public safety, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, for the protection of the reputation or rights of others, for preventing the disclosure of information received in confidence, for maintaining the authority and impartiality of the judiciary.” Also are you comparing one U.K. individual to the labour camps of China or the clamp down of freedoms and press in Hong Kong?? Not quite on the same level is it. I do not defend any war crimes by the U.K. or US. I’m also against the obscene plan regarding Rwanda just for the record . How’s the opposition leader doing in that Siberian prison? It’s the same as imprisoning Kier Starmer for saying Boris is full of shit. Has Julian been poisoned yet? How did Putin afford his yachts and luxuries on his salary ? It’s called extortion. Boris is a twat but not in that league. So you think that wiki leaks should not be releasing videos that show us forces committing war crimes or documents that show evidence of torture or attempted coups, regime change operations and cover ups by the United States and their allies ... You think the public should not know about these things? You thibk we should not be informed what our govts and military get up to... Instead you think we should focus instead on hong Kong where the CIA have been instigating discontent and anti Chinese sentiment and which has nothing to do with the UK. Or on some obscure camps in China which also have nothing at all to do with the UK in any way, shape or form. It's none of our business. So whilst we fly immigrants to Rwanda, murder leaders such as gaddafi, torture people in guantanamo Bay, stage coups across the world and consistently lie to the public you want to talk about an opposition figure in Russian who is comfortably behind bars on numerous charges and who the evidence suggests is more than likely backed and controlled by the usa. Like zekensky is. So Putin is wealthy, but so is Tony Blair. Who more than likely had Dr David Kelly murdered to start a war in Iraq which killed and displaced up to a million people and which he still won't apologise for and in fact will soon be knighted for. But that's of course not in putins league.... Remind me who is the actual war criminal and murderer again? Yeah so a Russian dissident gets killed in London. Its easier to blame Putin than look into all the shady deals and bad money and shady history thd individual was involved in. I mean let's not go into the death of maxwell, lady Diana or the strange career of Jimmy Saville because Britain if anything is certainly not corrupt or dodgy. And as for sleaze, well come on that's not really relevant, despite the obvious govt paedophiles like Cyril Smith... I mean come on Putin is the danger here. I mean he believes in traditional values and calls the west decadent. That's just not cricket. " Ha ha ha So virtually anyone who has died is a conspiracy .do you ever get out?? Firstly read again what I said about the leaks because you’ve blatantly not. You have just repeated you’re own beliefs. Secondly think on this. I can stand outside parliament with a banner decrying the government and telling anyone who will listen that they are corrupt and liars . Can you do the same I outside the Duma or The Great Hall if the People? You can go to jail in Russia right now for claiming the war in Ukraine is a war. Why have they closed all free to access open source social media? You know the place where people can say what they like just as you are doing right now. Blair made money and so will Boris from their incomes after leaving. They will benefit greatly from being a prime minister doing the usual tours. Putin has stolen the money. There’s a big difference. Did Blair make billions during his time in office making his speeches?? Have a word with yourself. Many years ago I read the history of Russia and the struggle to become a nation is truly epic. Whilst it is littered with relentless violence they eventually became one nation which included the so called Stans under a dictator The Tzar. Ivan the Terrible. Your blinkered view of the world is an embarrassment to the proud people of Russia and their struggle through history. You ignore the points I made over the deaths of so many. Do I believe our government are innocent ? Of course not and the establishment stinks including taking Russian stolen money but do I believe Putin is better? Definitely not. | |||
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"Just carrying on the discussion from the global warming thread... I support putin and the special military operation in the Ukraine. I want a Russian victory. NATO and the Americans are to blame for the situation in Ukraine. Putin is an accomplished and popular leader. Russians support him. He was exactky correct when he called the west the empire of lies. I admire the history of the soviet union. I think Lenin and stalin were great and inspirational leaders I also support communist China and think chinas achievements prove that communism is not only workable but a far better system than capitalism and should replace it as the next step forward for civilisation. Xxxx Hmmm Mao killed 70 m of his own people . Staling 9m , Putin he’s still racking them up but to give him credit they are mostly foreigners . Have you considered joining the Conservative party? They are always on the lookout for strong minded members with an interesting view of a how to subdue those pesky people who want free speech or not be sl4ves or in fact keep the money they earn rather than it being taken by the presidents and his mates. Still good job you’re here and not in China or Russia speaking your mind, as you will know being so up on such things, that’s not good for your health in those countries . Now talk about Julian Assange who is currently in belmarsh prison for reporting on usa war crimes, us torture and assassination programme. Surely that only happens in Russia? What happened to Julian asssanges free speech? Come on don't be shy tell me about Julian Assange freedom of speech and freedom to report on us war crimes... Now let me compare one man who aided the release of both disgraceful behaviour of western governments but also the reckless release of critical security details . So whilst I agree the U.K. government are sucking up to the US I’m not sympathetic to julian because he was too reckless with such information. As for free speech . It’s not a free for all right in this country and Julian was well aware of the law on this so could have edited the release but chose not to . Under Article 10 of the Human Rights Act 1998, “everyone has the right to freedom of expression” in the UK. The law goes on to say that this freedom “may be subject to formalities, conditions, restrictions or penalties as are prescribed by law and are necessary in a democratic society." These may be “in the interests of national security, territorial integrity or public safety, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, for the protection of the reputation or rights of others, for preventing the disclosure of information received in confidence, for maintaining the authority and impartiality of the judiciary.” Also are you comparing one U.K. individual to the labour camps of China or the clamp down of freedoms and press in Hong Kong?? Not quite on the same level is it. I do not defend any war crimes by the U.K. or US. I’m also against the obscene plan regarding Rwanda just for the record . How’s the opposition leader doing in that Siberian prison? It’s the same as imprisoning Kier Starmer for saying Boris is full of shit. Has Julian been poisoned yet? How did Putin afford his yachts and luxuries on his salary ? It’s called extortion. Boris is a twat but not in that league. So you think that wiki leaks should not be releasing videos that show us forces committing war crimes or documents that show evidence of torture or attempted coups, regime change operations and cover ups by the United States and their allies ... You think the public should not know about these things? You thibk we should not be informed what our govts and military get up to... Instead you think we should focus instead on hong Kong where the CIA have been instigating discontent and anti Chinese sentiment and which has nothing to do with the UK. Or on some obscure camps in China which also have nothing at all to do with the UK in any way, shape or form. It's none of our business. So whilst we fly immigrants to Rwanda, murder leaders such as gaddafi, torture people in guantanamo Bay, stage coups across the world and consistently lie to the public you want to talk about an opposition figure in Russian who is comfortably behind bars on numerous charges and who the evidence suggests is more than likely backed and controlled by the usa. Like zekensky is. So Putin is wealthy, but so is Tony Blair. Who more than likely had Dr David Kelly murdered to start a war in Iraq which killed and displaced up to a million people and which he still won't apologise for and in fact will soon be knighted for. But that's of course not in putins league.... Remind me who is the actual war criminal and murderer again? Yeah so a Russian dissident gets killed in London. Its easier to blame Putin than look into all the shady deals and bad money and shady history thd individual was involved in. I mean let's not go into the death of maxwell, lady Diana or the strange career of Jimmy Saville because Britain if anything is certainly not corrupt or dodgy. And as for sleaze, well come on that's not really relevant, despite the obvious govt paedophiles like Cyril Smith... I mean come on Putin is the danger here. I mean he believes in traditional values and calls the west decadent. That's just not cricket. Ha ha ha So virtually anyone who has died is a conspiracy .do you ever get out?? Firstly read again what I said about the leaks because you’ve blatantly not. You have just repeated you’re own beliefs. Secondly think on this. I can stand outside parliament with a banner decrying the government and telling anyone who will listen that they are corrupt and liars . Can you do the same I outside the Duma or The Great Hall if the People? You can go to jail in Russia right now for claiming the war in Ukraine is a war. Why have they closed all free to access open source social media? You know the place where people can say what they like just as you are doing right now. Blair made money and so will Boris from their incomes after leaving. They will benefit greatly from being a prime minister doing the usual tours. Putin has stolen the money. There’s a big difference. Did Blair make billions during his time in office making his speeches?? Have a word with yourself. Many years ago I read the history of Russia and the struggle to become a nation is truly epic. Whilst it is littered with relentless violence they eventually became one nation which included the so called Stans under a dictator The Tzar. Ivan the Terrible. Your blinkered view of the world is an embarrassment to the proud people of Russia and their struggle through history. You ignore the points I made over the deaths of so many. Do I believe our government are innocent ? Of course not and the establishment stinks including taking Russian stolen money but do I believe Putin is better? Definitely not. " Absolutely agree with all you say here Jackal1 except the point on standing outside parliament protesting. Our current Govt are doing all they can to stop that. So you best not make a nuisance of yourself or you will get arrested. Wonder where the Tories got that idea from...? | |||
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"Just carrying on the discussion from the global warming thread... EDITED FOR EASE OF USE So Putin is wealthy, but so is Tony Blair. Who more than likely had Dr David Kelly murdered to start a war in Iraq which killed and displaced up to a million people and which he still won't apologise for and in fact will soon be knighted for. But that's of course not in putins league.... Remind me who is the actual war criminal and murderer again? Yeah so a Russian dissident gets killed in London. Its easier to blame Putin than look into all the shady deals and bad money and shady history thd individual was involved in. I mean let's not go into the death of maxwell, lady Diana or the strange career of Jimmy Saville because Britain if anything is certainly not corrupt or dodgy. And as for sleaze, well come on that's not really relevant, despite the obvious govt paedophiles like Cyril Smith... I mean come on Putin is the danger here. I mean he believes in traditional values and calls the west decadent. That's just not cricket. Ha ha ha So virtually anyone who has died is a conspiracy .do you ever get out?? Firstly read again what I said about the leaks because you’ve blatantly not. You have just repeated you’re own beliefs. Secondly think on this. I can stand outside parliament with a banner decrying the government and telling anyone who will listen that they are corrupt and liars . Can you do the same I outside the Duma or The Great Hall if the People? You can go to jail in Russia right now for claiming the war in Ukraine is a war. Why have they closed all free to access open source social media? You know the place where people can say what they like just as you are doing right now. Blair made money and so will Boris from their incomes after leaving. They will benefit greatly from being a prime minister doing the usual tours. Putin has stolen the money. There’s a big difference. Did Blair make billions during his time in office making his speeches?? Have a word with yourself. Many years ago I read the history of Russia and the struggle to become a nation is truly epic. Whilst it is littered with relentless violence they eventually became one nation which included the so called Stans under a dictator The Tzar. Ivan the Terrible. Your blinkered view of the world is an embarrassment to the proud people of Russia and their struggle through history. You ignore the points I made over the deaths of so many. Do I believe our government are innocent ? Of course not and the establishment stinks including taking Russian stolen money but do I believe Putin is better? Definitely not. Absolutely agree with all you say here Jackal1 except the point on standing outside parliament protesting. Our current Govt are doing all they can to stop that. So you best not make a nuisance of yourself or you will get arrested. Wonder where the Tories got that idea from...?" Yes I agree with you. They can’t shout anymore I believe. Let’s hope the next government will roll back some of the freedoms being taken away. Liz seems to want to attack workers rights from the off from her recent plans. | |||
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"Just carrying on the discussion from the global warming thread... I support putin and the special military operation in the Ukraine. I want a Russian victory. NATO and the Americans are to blame for the situation in Ukraine. Putin is an accomplished and popular leader. Russians support him. He was exactky correct when he called the west the empire of lies. I admire the history of the soviet union. I think Lenin and stalin were great and inspirational leaders I also support communist China and think chinas achievements prove that communism is not only workable but a far better system than capitalism and should replace it as the next step forward for civilisation. Xxxx Hmmm Mao killed 70 m of his own people . Staling 9m , Putin he’s still racking them up but to give him credit they are mostly foreigners . Have you considered joining the Conservative party? They are always on the lookout for strong minded members with an interesting view of a how to subdue those pesky people who want free speech or not be sl4ves or in fact keep the money they earn rather than it being taken by the presidents and his mates. Still good job you’re here and not in China or Russia speaking your mind, as you will know being so up on such things, that’s not good for your health in those countries . Now talk about Julian Assange who is currently in belmarsh prison for reporting on usa war crimes, us torture and assassination programme. Surely that only happens in Russia? What happened to Julian asssanges free speech? Come on don't be shy tell me about Julian Assange freedom of speech and freedom to report on us war crimes... Now let me compare one man who aided the release of both disgraceful behaviour of western governments but also the reckless release of critical security details . So whilst I agree the U.K. government are sucking up to the US I’m not sympathetic to julian because he was too reckless with such information. As for free speech . It’s not a free for all right in this country and Julian was well aware of the law on this so could have edited the release but chose not to . Under Article 10 of the Human Rights Act 1998, “everyone has the right to freedom of expression” in the UK. The law goes on to say that this freedom “may be subject to formalities, conditions, restrictions or penalties as are prescribed by law and are necessary in a democratic society." These may be “in the interests of national security, territorial integrity or public safety, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, for the protection of the reputation or rights of others, for preventing the disclosure of information received in confidence, for maintaining the authority and impartiality of the judiciary.” Also are you comparing one U.K. individual to the labour camps of China or the clamp down of freedoms and press in Hong Kong?? Not quite on the same level is it. I do not defend any war crimes by the U.K. or US. I’m also against the obscene plan regarding Rwanda just for the record . How’s the opposition leader doing in that Siberian prison? It’s the same as imprisoning Kier Starmer for saying Boris is full of shit. Has Julian been poisoned yet? How did Putin afford his yachts and luxuries on his salary ? It’s called extortion. Boris is a twat but not in that league. So you think that wiki leaks should not be releasing videos that show us forces committing war crimes or documents that show evidence of torture or attempted coups, regime change operations and cover ups by the United States and their allies ... You think the public should not know about these things? You thibk we should not be informed what our govts and military get up to... Instead you think we should focus instead on hong Kong where the CIA have been instigating discontent and anti Chinese sentiment and which has nothing to do with the UK. Or on some obscure camps in China which also have nothing at all to do with the UK in any way, shape or form. It's none of our business. So whilst we fly immigrants to Rwanda, murder leaders such as gaddafi, torture people in guantanamo Bay, stage coups across the world and consistently lie to the public you want to talk about an opposition figure in Russian who is comfortably behind bars on numerous charges and who the evidence suggests is more than likely backed and controlled by the usa. Like zekensky is. So Putin is wealthy, but so is Tony Blair. Who more than likely had Dr David Kelly murdered to start a war in Iraq which killed and displaced up to a million people and which he still won't apologise for and in fact will soon be knighted for. But that's of course not in putins league.... Remind me who is the actual war criminal and murderer again? Yeah so a Russian dissident gets killed in London. Its easier to blame Putin than look into all the shady deals and bad money and shady history thd individual was involved in. I mean let's not go into the death of maxwell, lady Diana or the strange career of Jimmy Saville because Britain if anything is certainly not corrupt or dodgy. And as for sleaze, well come on that's not really relevant, despite the obvious govt paedophiles like Cyril Smith... I mean come on Putin is the danger here. I mean he believes in traditional values and calls the west decadent. That's just not cricket. Ha ha ha So virtually anyone who has died is a conspiracy .do you ever get out?? Firstly read again what I said about the leaks because you’ve blatantly not. You have just repeated you’re own beliefs. Secondly think on this. I can stand outside parliament with a banner decrying the government and telling anyone who will listen that they are corrupt and liars . Can you do the same I outside the Duma or The Great Hall if the People? You can go to jail in Russia right now for claiming the war in Ukraine is a war. Why have they closed all free to access open source social media? You know the place where people can say what they like just as you are doing right now. Blair made money and so will Boris from their incomes after leaving. They will benefit greatly from being a prime minister doing the usual tours. Putin has stolen the money. There’s a big difference. Did Blair make billions during his time in office making his speeches?? Have a word with yourself. Many years ago I read the history of Russia and the struggle to become a nation is truly epic. Whilst it is littered with relentless violence they eventually became one nation which included the so called Stans under a dictator The Tzar. Ivan the Terrible. Your blinkered view of the world is an embarrassment to the proud people of Russia and their struggle through history. You ignore the points I made over the deaths of so many. Do I believe our government are innocent ? Of course not and the establishment stinks including taking Russian stolen money but do I believe Putin is better? Definitely not. " You are literally defending the prosecution and imprisonment of a journalist whose crime is doing journalism. Not only that you are defending the American empire and the cover up of war crimes including the murder of reuters journalists in Iraq as a necessary security precaution. You are a sick individual. There is no proof that Putin is behind the deaths you claim. None. There is however actual concrete proof that that the usa killed gadaffi, soloumani and other figures. In fact they brag about it. These are assassinations of political opponents. What you say about protests in Russia is lies. Russians can protest and they can express opinions. . However the protests are Tightly controlled and the Russians are at war. Russia is not the Uk. No matter how much you want it to be. Most Russians approve of tighg security around protests. If you protested thd second world waitld war or support for Hitler in ww2 you wouldn't last long without the police arresting you. Tony Blair and others has made millions in office and out of office as has nancy Pelosi and many other politicians. Including Joe Biden and hunter Biden who are currently funneling 59 billion dollars of tax payers money for ukranian weapons into their own pockets . The fact that you thibk its outrageous that Putin made money in the kleptocracy that was the fall of the soviet union is frankly ridiciculous, nobody gives a shit apart from the guardian, the Russian people certainly don't care. | |||
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"I think it's hilarious how idiots on this thread attempt to hold Putin and Russia up to the "standards of the UK" and attempt to compare Putin with the morally upright figures of Tony Blair and Boris Johnson. Are you out of your f minds? " I will ask you again... Why do you live here in the UK if you are so pro Russian? | |||
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"Just carrying on the discussion from the global warming thread... EDITED FOR EASE OF USE So Putin is wealthy, but so is Tony Blair. Who more than likely had Dr David Kelly murdered to start a war in Iraq which killed and displaced up to a million people and which he still won't apologise for and in fact will soon be knighted for. But that's of course not in putins league.... Remind me who is the actual war criminal and murderer again? Yeah so a Russian dissident gets killed in London. Its easier to blame Putin than look into all the shady deals and bad money and shady history thd individual was involved in. I mean let's not go into the death of maxwell, lady Diana or the strange career of Jimmy Saville because Britain if anything is certainly not corrupt or dodgy. And as for sleaze, well come on that's not really relevant, despite the obvious govt paedophiles like Cyril Smith... I mean come on Putin is the danger here. I mean he believes in traditional values and calls the west decadent. That's just not cricket. Ha ha ha So virtually anyone who has died is a conspiracy .do you ever get out?? Firstly read again what I said about the leaks because you’ve blatantly not. You have just repeated you’re own beliefs. Secondly think on this. I can stand outside parliament with a banner decrying the government and telling anyone who will listen that they are corrupt and liars . Can you do the same I outside the Duma or The Great Hall if the People? You can go to jail in Russia right now for claiming the war in Ukraine is a war. Why have they closed all free to access open source social media? You know the place where people can say what they like just as you are doing right now. Blair made money and so will Boris from their incomes after leaving. They will benefit greatly from being a prime minister doing the usual tours. Putin has stolen the money. There’s a big difference. Did Blair make billions during his time in office making his speeches?? Have a word with yourself. Many years ago I read the history of Russia and the struggle to become a nation is truly epic. Whilst it is littered with relentless violence they eventually became one nation which included the so called Stans under a dictator The Tzar. Ivan the Terrible. Your blinkered view of the world is an embarrassment to the proud people of Russia and their struggle through history. You ignore the points I made over the deaths of so many. Do I believe our government are innocent ? Of course not and the establishment stinks including taking Russian stolen money but do I believe Putin is better? Definitely not. Absolutely agree with all you say here Jackal1 except the point on standing outside parliament protesting. Our current Govt are doing all they can to stop that. So you best not make a nuisance of yourself or you will get arrested. Wonder where the Tories got that idea from...? Yes I agree with you. They can’t shout anymore I believe. Let’s hope the next government will roll back some of the freedoms being taken away. Liz seems to want to attack workers rights from the off from her recent plans. " The govt will never roll back the curtailing of protest rights. Police powers are on the increase. You can't even smoke in public without being fined never mind drink a bottle of beer. Wake up | |||
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"Just carrying on the discussion from the global warming thread... EDITED FOR EASE OF USE So Putin is wealthy, but so is Tony Blair. Who more than likely had Dr David Kelly murdered to start a war in Iraq which killed and displaced up to a million people and which he still won't apologise for and in fact will soon be knighted for. But that's of course not in putins league.... Remind me who is the actual war criminal and murderer again? Yeah so a Russian dissident gets killed in London. Its easier to blame Putin than look into all the shady deals and bad money and shady history thd individual was involved in. I mean let's not go into the death of maxwell, lady Diana or the strange career of Jimmy Saville because Britain if anything is certainly not corrupt or dodgy. And as for sleaze, well come on that's not really relevant, despite the obvious govt paedophiles like Cyril Smith... I mean come on Putin is the danger here. I mean he believes in traditional values and calls the west decadent. That's just not cricket. Ha ha ha So virtually anyone who has died is a conspiracy .do you ever get out?? Firstly read again what I said about the leaks because you’ve blatantly not. You have just repeated you’re own beliefs. Secondly think on this. I can stand outside parliament with a banner decrying the government and telling anyone who will listen that they are corrupt and liars . Can you do the same I outside the Duma or The Great Hall if the People? You can go to jail in Russia right now for claiming the war in Ukraine is a war. Why have they closed all free to access open source social media? You know the place where people can say what they like just as you are doing right now. Blair made money and so will Boris from their incomes after leaving. They will benefit greatly from being a prime minister doing the usual tours. Putin has stolen the money. There’s a big difference. Did Blair make billions during his time in office making his speeches?? Have a word with yourself. Many years ago I read the history of Russia and the struggle to become a nation is truly epic. Whilst it is littered with relentless violence they eventually became one nation which included the so called Stans under a dictator The Tzar. Ivan the Terrible. Your blinkered view of the world is an embarrassment to the proud people of Russia and their struggle through history. You ignore the points I made over the deaths of so many. Do I believe our government are innocent ? Of course not and the establishment stinks including taking Russian stolen money but do I believe Putin is better? Definitely not. Absolutely agree with all you say here Jackal1 except the point on standing outside parliament protesting. Our current Govt are doing all they can to stop that. So you best not make a nuisance of yourself or you will get arrested. Wonder where the Tories got that idea from...? Yes I agree with you. They can’t shout anymore I believe. Let’s hope the next government will roll back some of the freedoms being taken away. Liz seems to want to attack workers rights from the off from her recent plans. The govt will never roll back the curtailing of protest rights. Police powers are on the increase. You can't even smoke in public without being fined never mind drink a bottle of beer. Wake up " Then you must be seriously considering relocating to a better place to live? | |||
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"I think it's hilarious how idiots on this thread attempt to hold Putin and Russia up to the "standards of the UK" and attempt to compare Putin with the morally upright figures of Tony Blair and Boris Johnson. Are you out of your f minds? But Blair & Johnson were voted out. The power of democracy and a parliamentary system. They didn’t change the rules to keep absolute power for 20+ years. Mind you, I’ve no doubt if they could the would! " | |||
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"Just carrying on the discussion from the global warming thread... I support putin and the special military operation in the Ukraine. I want a Russian victory. NATO and the Americans are to blame for the situation in Ukraine. Putin is an accomplished and popular leader. Russians support him. He was exactky correct when he called the west the empire of lies. I admire the history of the soviet union. I think Lenin and stalin were great and inspirational leaders I also support communist China and think chinas achievements prove that communism is not only workable but a far better system than capitalism and should replace it as the next step forward for civilisation. Xxxx china is not communist it's capitalism without democracy when they were communist they were one off the poorest countrys with millions living in poverty but im sure they will be happy to have you join them. " | |||
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"I think it's hilarious how idiots on this thread attempt to hold Putin and Russia up to the "standards of the UK" and attempt to compare Putin with the morally upright figures of Tony Blair and Boris Johnson. Are you out of your f minds? But Blair & Johnson were voted out. The power of democracy and a parliamentary system. They didn’t change the rules to keep absolute power for 20+ years. Mind you, I’ve no doubt if they could the would! " The difference is the British public detest Boris Johnson, and others but in Russia Putin is very popular, and is now overwhelmingly popular, his approval rating is near 90% the only conceivable opposition to Putin in terms of public support is the Russian communist party. Would you prefer the Russian communist party in office who actually want to take back all of Ukraine and re establish the Eastern bloc. Compare putins popularity with the current popularity of any of our political leaders... Our leaders openly lie to the British public. We forgive them and vote them back in. | |||
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"Just carrying on the discussion from the global warming thread... I support putin and the special military operation in the Ukraine. I want a Russian victory. NATO and the Americans are to blame for the situation in Ukraine. Putin is an accomplished and popular leader. Russians support him. He was exactky correct when he called the west the empire of lies. I admire the history of the soviet union. I think Lenin and stalin were great and inspirational leaders I also support communist China and think chinas achievements prove that communism is not only workable but a far better system than capitalism and should replace it as the next step forward for civilisation. Xxxx china is not communist it's capitalism without democracy when they were communist they were one off the poorest countrys with millions living in poverty but im sure they will be happy to have you join them. " China is a communist country. Its ruling party is the Chinese communist party. The clue is in the name. | |||
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"I think it's hilarious how idiots on this thread attempt to hold Putin and Russia up to the "standards of the UK" and attempt to compare Putin with the morally upright figures of Tony Blair and Boris Johnson. Are you out of your f minds? But Blair & Johnson were voted out. The power of democracy and a parliamentary system. They didn’t change the rules to keep absolute power for 20+ years. Mind you, I’ve no doubt if they could the would! The difference is the British public detest Boris Johnson, and others but in Russia Putin is very popular, and is now overwhelmingly popular, his approval rating is near 90% the only conceivable opposition to Putin in terms of public support is the Russian communist party. Would you prefer the Russian communist party in office who actually want to take back all of Ukraine and re establish the Eastern bloc. Compare putins popularity with the current popularity of any of our political leaders... Our leaders openly lie to the British public. We forgive them and vote them back in. " You keep quoting 90%. You know it’s nonsense. | |||
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"Just carrying on the discussion from the global warming thread... I support putin and the special military operation in the Ukraine. I want a Russian victory. NATO and the Americans are to blame for the situation in Ukraine. Putin is an accomplished and popular leader. Russians support him. He was exactky correct when he called the west the empire of lies. I admire the history of the soviet union. I think Lenin and stalin were great and inspirational leaders I also support communist China and think chinas achievements prove that communism is not only workable but a far better system than capitalism and should replace it as the next step forward for civilisation. Xxxx Hmmm Mao killed 70 m of his own people . Staling 9m , Putin he’s still racking them up but to give him credit they are mostly foreigners . Have you considered joining the Conservative party? They are always on the lookout for strong minded members with an interesting view of a how to subdue those pesky people who want free speech or not be sl4ves or in fact keep the money they earn rather than it being taken by the presidents and his mates. Still good job you’re here and not in China or Russia speaking your mind, as you will know being so up on such things, that’s not good for your health in those countries . Now talk about Julian Assange who is currently in belmarsh prison for reporting on usa war crimes, us torture and assassination programme. Surely that only happens in Russia? What happened to Julian asssanges free speech? Come on don't be shy tell me about Julian Assange freedom of speech and freedom to report on us war crimes... Now let me compare one man who aided the release of both disgraceful behaviour of western governments but also the reckless release of critical security details . So whilst I agree the U.K. government are sucking up to the US I’m not sympathetic to julian because he was too reckless with such information. As for free speech . It’s not a free for all right in this country and Julian was well aware of the law on this so could have edited the release but chose not to . Under Article 10 of the Human Rights Act 1998, “everyone has the right to freedom of expression” in the UK. The law goes on to say that this freedom “may be subject to formalities, conditions, restrictions or penalties as are prescribed by law and are necessary in a democratic society." These may be “in the interests of national security, territorial integrity or public safety, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, for the protection of the reputation or rights of others, for preventing the disclosure of information received in confidence, for maintaining the authority and impartiality of the judiciary.” Also are you comparing one U.K. individual to the labour camps of China or the clamp down of freedoms and press in Hong Kong?? Not quite on the same level is it. I do not defend any war crimes by the U.K. or US. I’m also against the obscene plan regarding Rwanda just for the record . How’s the opposition leader doing in that Siberian prison? It’s the same as imprisoning Kier Starmer for saying Boris is full of shit. Has Julian been poisoned yet? How did Putin afford his yachts and luxuries on his salary ? It’s called extortion. Boris is a twat but not in that league. So you think that wiki leaks should not be releasing videos that show us forces committing war crimes or documents that show evidence of torture or attempted coups, regime change operations and cover ups by the United States and their allies ... You think the public should not know about these things? You thibk we should not be informed what our govts and military get up to... Instead you think we should focus instead on hong Kong where the CIA have been instigating discontent and anti Chinese sentiment and which has nothing to do with the UK. Or on some obscure camps in China which also have nothing at all to do with the UK in any way, shape or form. It's none of our business. So whilst we fly immigrants to Rwanda, murder leaders such as gaddafi, torture people in guantanamo Bay, stage coups across the world and consistently lie to the public you want to talk about an opposition figure in Russian who is comfortably behind bars on numerous charges and who the evidence suggests is more than likely backed and controlled by the usa. Like zekensky is. So Putin is wealthy, but so is Tony Blair. Who more than likely had Dr David Kelly murdered to start a war in Iraq which killed and displaced up to a million people and which he still won't apologise for and in fact will soon be knighted for. But that's of course not in putins league.... Remind me who is the actual war criminal and murderer again? Yeah so a Russian dissident gets killed in London. Its easier to blame Putin than look into all the shady deals and bad money and shady history thd individual was involved in. I mean let's not go into the death of maxwell, lady Diana or the strange career of Jimmy Saville because Britain if anything is certainly not corrupt or dodgy. And as for sleaze, well come on that's not really relevant, despite the obvious govt paedophiles like Cyril Smith... I mean come on Putin is the danger here. I mean he believes in traditional values and calls the west decadent. That's just not cricket. Ha ha ha So virtually anyone who has died is a conspiracy .do you ever get out?? Firstly read again what I said about the leaks because you’ve blatantly not. You have just repeated you’re own beliefs. Secondly think on this. I can stand outside parliament with a banner decrying the government and telling anyone who will listen that they are corrupt and liars . Can you do the same I outside the Duma or The Great Hall if the People? You can go to jail in Russia right now for claiming the war in Ukraine is a war. Why have they closed all free to access open source social media? You know the place where people can say what they like just as you are doing right now. Blair made money and so will Boris from their incomes after leaving. They will benefit greatly from being a prime minister doing the usual tours. Putin has stolen the money. There’s a big difference. Did Blair make billions during his time in office making his speeches?? Have a word with yourself. Many years ago I read the history of Russia and the struggle to become a nation is truly epic. Whilst it is littered with relentless violence they eventually became one nation which included the so called Stans under a dictator The Tzar. Ivan the Terrible. Your blinkered view of the world is an embarrassment to the proud people of Russia and their struggle through history. You ignore the points I made over the deaths of so many. Do I believe our government are innocent ? Of course not and the establishment stinks including taking Russian stolen money but do I believe Putin is better? Definitely not. You are literally defending the prosecution and imprisonment of a journalist whose crime is doing journalism. Not only that you are defending the American empire and the cover up of war crimes including the murder of reuters journalists in Iraq as a necessary security precaution. You are a sick individual. There is no proof that Putin is behind the deaths you claim. None. There is however actual concrete proof that that the usa killed gadaffi, soloumani and other figures. In fact they brag about it. These are assassinations of political opponents. What you say about protests in Russia is lies. Russians can protest and they can express opinions. . However the protests are Tightly controlled and the Russians are at war. Russia is not the Uk. No matter how much you want it to be. Most Russians approve of tighg security around protests. If you protested thd second world waitld war or support for Hitler in ww2 you wouldn't last long without the police arresting you. Tony Blair and others has made millions in office and out of office as has nancy Pelosi and many other politicians. Including Joe Biden and hunter Biden who are currently funneling 59 billion dollars of tax payers money for ukranian weapons into their own pockets . The fact that you thibk its outrageous that Putin made money in the kleptocracy that was the fall of the soviet union is frankly ridiciculous, nobody gives a shit apart from the guardian, the Russian people certainly don't care. " I’m a sick individual ?? Nice Yet again did you actually read what I put because it’s appears not. Yes I think I’ll leave you there in your sad delusional world . You’re not debating you’re just being abusive and offensive to those who challenge your political views . Your brainwashing is a success . I agreed with the west isn’t shining in glory but by you’re reckoning the pope will beatify Putin soon. As for most Russians support Putin. In public they have to. 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"Just carrying on the discussion from the global warming thread... I support putin and the special military operation in the Ukraine. I want a Russian victory. NATO and the Americans are to blame for the situation in Ukraine. Putin is an accomplished and popular leader. Russians support him. He was exactky correct when he called the west the empire of lies. I admire the history of the soviet union. I think Lenin and stalin were great and inspirational leaders I also support communist China and think chinas achievements prove that communism is not only workable but a far better system than capitalism and should replace it as the next step forward for civilisation. Xxxx Hmmm Mao killed 70 m of his own people . Staling 9m , Putin he’s still racking them up but to give him credit they are mostly foreigners . Have you considered joining the Conservative party? They are always on the lookout for strong minded members with an interesting view of a how to subdue those pesky people who want free speech or not be sl4ves or in fact keep the money they earn rather than it being taken by the presidents and his mates. Still good job you’re here and not in China or Russia speaking your mind, as you will know being so up on such things, that’s not good for your health in those countries . Now talk about Julian Assange who is currently in belmarsh prison for reporting on usa war crimes, us torture and assassination programme. Surely that only happens in Russia? What happened to Julian asssanges free speech? Come on don't be shy tell me about Julian Assange freedom of speech and freedom to report on us war crimes... Now let me compare one man who aided the release of both disgraceful behaviour of western governments but also the reckless release of critical security details . So whilst I agree the U.K. government are sucking up to the US I’m not sympathetic to julian because he was too reckless with such information. As for free speech . It’s not a free for all right in this country and Julian was well aware of the law on this so could have edited the release but chose not to . Under Article 10 of the Human Rights Act 1998, “everyone has the right to freedom of expression” in the UK. The law goes on to say that this freedom “may be subject to formalities, conditions, restrictions or penalties as are prescribed by law and are necessary in a democratic society." These may be “in the interests of national security, territorial integrity or public safety, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, for the protection of the reputation or rights of others, for preventing the disclosure of information received in confidence, for maintaining the authority and impartiality of the judiciary.” Also are you comparing one U.K. individual to the labour camps of China or the clamp down of freedoms and press in Hong Kong?? Not quite on the same level is it. I do not defend any war crimes by the U.K. or US. I’m also against the obscene plan regarding Rwanda just for the record . How’s the opposition leader doing in that Siberian prison? It’s the same as imprisoning Kier Starmer for saying Boris is full of shit. Has Julian been poisoned yet? How did Putin afford his yachts and luxuries on his salary ? It’s called extortion. Boris is a twat but not in that league. So you think that wiki leaks should not be releasing videos that show us forces committing war crimes or documents that show evidence of torture or attempted coups, regime change operations and cover ups by the United States and their allies ... You think the public should not know about these things? You thibk we should not be informed what our govts and military get up to... Instead you think we should focus instead on hong Kong where the CIA have been instigating discontent and anti Chinese sentiment and which has nothing to do with the UK. Or on some obscure camps in China which also have nothing at all to do with the UK in any way, shape or form. It's none of our business. So whilst we fly immigrants to Rwanda, murder leaders such as gaddafi, torture people in guantanamo Bay, stage coups across the world and consistently lie to the public you want to talk about an opposition figure in Russian who is comfortably behind bars on numerous charges and who the evidence suggests is more than likely backed and controlled by the usa. Like zekensky is. So Putin is wealthy, but so is Tony Blair. Who more than likely had Dr David Kelly murdered to start a war in Iraq which killed and displaced up to a million people and which he still won't apologise for and in fact will soon be knighted for. But that's of course not in putins league.... Remind me who is the actual war criminal and murderer again? Yeah so a Russian dissident gets killed in London. Its easier to blame Putin than look into all the shady deals and bad money and shady history thd individual was involved in. I mean let's not go into the death of maxwell, lady Diana or the strange career of Jimmy Saville because Britain if anything is certainly not corrupt or dodgy. And as for sleaze, well come on that's not really relevant, despite the obvious govt paedophiles like Cyril Smith... I mean come on Putin is the danger here. I mean he believes in traditional values and calls the west decadent. That's just not cricket. Ha ha ha So virtually anyone who has died is a conspiracy .do you ever get out?? Firstly read again what I said about the leaks because you’ve blatantly not. You have just repeated you’re own beliefs. Secondly think on this. I can stand outside parliament with a banner decrying the government and telling anyone who will listen that they are corrupt and liars . Can you do the same I outside the Duma or The Great Hall if the People? You can go to jail in Russia right now for claiming the war in Ukraine is a war. Why have they closed all free to access open source social media? You know the place where people can say what they like just as you are doing right now. Blair made money and so will Boris from their incomes after leaving. They will benefit greatly from being a prime minister doing the usual tours. Putin has stolen the money. There’s a big difference. Did Blair make billions during his time in office making his speeches?? Have a word with yourself. Many years ago I read the history of Russia and the struggle to become a nation is truly epic. Whilst it is littered with relentless violence they eventually became one nation which included the so called Stans under a dictator The Tzar. Ivan the Terrible. Your blinkered view of the world is an embarrassment to the proud people of Russia and their struggle through history. You ignore the points I made over the deaths of so many. Do I believe our government are innocent ? Of course not and the establishment stinks including taking Russian stolen money but do I believe Putin is better? Definitely not. You are literally defending the prosecution and imprisonment of a journalist whose crime is doing journalism. Not only that you are defending the American empire and the cover up of war crimes including the murder of reuters journalists in Iraq as a necessary security precaution. You are a sick individual. There is no proof that Putin is behind the deaths you claim. None. There is however actual concrete proof that that the usa killed gadaffi, soloumani and other figures. In fact they brag about it. These are assassinations of political opponents. What you say about protests in Russia is lies. Russians can protest and they can express opinions. . However the protests are Tightly controlled and the Russians are at war. Russia is not the Uk. No matter how much you want it to be. Most Russians approve of tighg security around protests. If you protested thd second world waitld war or support for Hitler in ww2 you wouldn't last long without the police arresting you. Tony Blair and others has made millions in office and out of office as has nancy Pelosi and many other politicians. Including Joe Biden and hunter Biden who are currently funneling 59 billion dollars of tax payers money for ukranian weapons into their own pockets . The fact that you thibk its outrageous that Putin made money in the kleptocracy that was the fall of the soviet union is frankly ridiciculous, nobody gives a shit apart from the guardian, the Russian people certainly don't care. I’m a sick individual ?? Nice Yet again did you actually read what I put because it’s appears not. Yes I think I’ll leave you there in your sad delusional world . You’re not debating you’re just being abusive and offensive to those who challenge your political views . Your brainwashing is a success . I agreed with the west isn’t shining in glory but by you’re reckoning the pope will beatify Putin soon. As for most Russians support Putin. In public they have to. You disgrace those people by your blind loyalty to Putin. You’re not defending or supporting Russians. I’ll let you into a secret whilst you’re shouting you’re a victim . I have family who are Russian so let’s leave it there . " If you have family that are Russian, which I doubt, then they will tell you everything I have said is pretty much spot on. I actually Do have family that are Russian so I know what I'm talking about. You actually defended the illegal imprisonment of Julian Assange for reporting on us war crimes and revealing the US torture programme and the drone striking of children. Something which you are attempting to morally equate with Putin stealing Russian money in a kleptocracy. The former you are arguing is morally justified thd latter isn't. That tells me everything I need to know about you. I genuinely cannot belueve you ae from Manchester as I know mancunians and none of them would have any truck with those views | |||
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"Just carrying on the discussion from the global warming thread... EDITED FOR EASE OF USE So Putin is wealthy, but so is Tony Blair. Who more than likely had Dr David Kelly murdered to start a war in Iraq which killed and displaced up to a million people and which he still won't apologise for and in fact will soon be knighted for. But that's of course not in putins league.... Remind me who is the actual war criminal and murderer again? Yeah so a Russian dissident gets killed in London. Its easier to blame Putin than look into all the shady deals and bad money and shady history thd individual was involved in. I mean let's not go into the death of maxwell, lady Diana or the strange career of Jimmy Saville because Britain if anything is certainly not corrupt or dodgy. And as for sleaze, well come on that's not really relevant, despite the obvious govt paedophiles like Cyril Smith... I mean come on Putin is the danger here. I mean he believes in traditional values and calls the west decadent. That's just not cricket. Ha ha ha So virtually anyone who has died is a conspiracy .do you ever get out?? Firstly read again what I said about the leaks because you’ve blatantly not. You have just repeated you’re own beliefs. Secondly think on this. I can stand outside parliament with a banner decrying the government and telling anyone who will listen that they are corrupt and liars . Can you do the same I outside the Duma or The Great Hall if the People? You can go to jail in Russia right now for claiming the war in Ukraine is a war. Why have they closed all free to access open source social media? You know the place where people can say what they like just as you are doing right now. Blair made money and so will Boris from their incomes after leaving. They will benefit greatly from being a prime minister doing the usual tours. Putin has stolen the money. There’s a big difference. Did Blair make billions during his time in office making his speeches?? Have a word with yourself. Many years ago I read the history of Russia and the struggle to become a nation is truly epic. Whilst it is littered with relentless violence they eventually became one nation which included the so called Stans under a dictator The Tzar. Ivan the Terrible. Your blinkered view of the world is an embarrassment to the proud people of Russia and their struggle through history. You ignore the points I made over the deaths of so many. Do I believe our government are innocent ? Of course not and the establishment stinks including taking Russian stolen money but do I believe Putin is better? Definitely not. Absolutely agree with all you say here Jackal1 except the point on standing outside parliament protesting. Our current Govt are doing all they can to stop that. So you best not make a nuisance of yourself or you will get arrested. Wonder where the Tories got that idea from...? Yes I agree with you. They can’t shout anymore I believe. Let’s hope the next government will roll back some of the freedoms being taken away. Liz seems to want to attack workers rights from the off from her recent plans. The govt will never roll back the curtailing of protest rights. Police powers are on the increase. You can't even smoke in public without being fined never mind drink a bottle of beer. Wake up " Are you arguing or agreeing that the new powers with removal of freedoms and workers rights are wrong? I’m not quite sure as I’m saying I’m against them and you’re telling me to wake up? Slightly confused . As for police powers I’m actually a little on the fence here as they should not have carte - blanche to attack people however, with the state of some of our cities being so full of violent d*unks at the weekend I would suggest if anyone hits or assaults a policeman or other emergency worker they get an immediate 6 months and I mean 6 months behind bars . Do it again it’s 1 year. Then 5 years . Should calm the abuse down . Those people trying to help represent society and should be respected . Oversight of bent or abusive police not withstanding . | |||
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"Just carrying on the discussion from the global warming thread... I support putin and the special military operation in the Ukraine. I want a Russian victory. NATO and the Americans are to blame for the situation in Ukraine. Putin is an accomplished and popular leader. Russians support him. He was exactky correct when he called the west the empire of lies. I admire the history of the soviet union. I think Lenin and stalin were great and inspirational leaders I also support communist China and think chinas achievements prove that communism is not only workable but a far better system than capitalism and should replace it as the next step forward for civilisation. Xxxx Hmmm Mao killed 70 m of his own people . Staling 9m , Putin he’s still racking them up but to give him credit they are mostly foreigners . Have you considered joining the Conservative party? They are always on the lookout for strong minded members with an interesting view of a how to subdue those pesky people who want free speech or not be sl4ves or in fact keep the money they earn rather than it being taken by the presidents and his mates. Still good job you’re here and not in China or Russia speaking your mind, as you will know being so up on such things, that’s not good for your health in those countries . Now talk about Julian Assange who is currently in belmarsh prison for reporting on usa war crimes, us torture and assassination programme. Surely that only happens in Russia? What happened to Julian asssanges free speech? Come on don't be shy tell me about Julian Assange freedom of speech and freedom to report on us war crimes... Now let me compare one man who aided the release of both disgraceful behaviour of western governments but also the reckless release of critical security details . So whilst I agree the U.K. government are sucking up to the US I’m not sympathetic to julian because he was too reckless with such information. As for free speech . It’s not a free for all right in this country and Julian was well aware of the law on this so could have edited the release but chose not to . Under Article 10 of the Human Rights Act 1998, “everyone has the right to freedom of expression” in the UK. The law goes on to say that this freedom “may be subject to formalities, conditions, restrictions or penalties as are prescribed by law and are necessary in a democratic society." These may be “in the interests of national security, territorial integrity or public safety, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, for the protection of the reputation or rights of others, for preventing the disclosure of information received in confidence, for maintaining the authority and impartiality of the judiciary.” Also are you comparing one U.K. individual to the labour camps of China or the clamp down of freedoms and press in Hong Kong?? Not quite on the same level is it. I do not defend any war crimes by the U.K. or US. I’m also against the obscene plan regarding Rwanda just for the record . How’s the opposition leader doing in that Siberian prison? It’s the same as imprisoning Kier Starmer for saying Boris is full of shit. Has Julian been poisoned yet? How did Putin afford his yachts and luxuries on his salary ? It’s called extortion. Boris is a twat but not in that league. So you think that wiki leaks should not be releasing videos that show us forces committing war crimes or documents that show evidence of torture or attempted coups, regime change operations and cover ups by the United States and their allies ... You think the public should not know about these things? You thibk we should not be informed what our govts and military get up to... Instead you think we should focus instead on hong Kong where the CIA have been instigating discontent and anti Chinese sentiment and which has nothing to do with the UK. Or on some obscure camps in China which also have nothing at all to do with the UK in any way, shape or form. It's none of our business. So whilst we fly immigrants to Rwanda, murder leaders such as gaddafi, torture people in guantanamo Bay, stage coups across the world and consistently lie to the public you want to talk about an opposition figure in Russian who is comfortably behind bars on numerous charges and who the evidence suggests is more than likely backed and controlled by the usa. Like zekensky is. So Putin is wealthy, but so is Tony Blair. Who more than likely had Dr David Kelly murdered to start a war in Iraq which killed and displaced up to a million people and which he still won't apologise for and in fact will soon be knighted for. But that's of course not in putins league.... Remind me who is the actual war criminal and murderer again? Yeah so a Russian dissident gets killed in London. Its easier to blame Putin than look into all the shady deals and bad money and shady history thd individual was involved in. I mean let's not go into the death of maxwell, lady Diana or the strange career of Jimmy Saville because Britain if anything is certainly not corrupt or dodgy. And as for sleaze, well come on that's not really relevant, despite the obvious govt paedophiles like Cyril Smith... I mean come on Putin is the danger here. I mean he believes in traditional values and calls the west decadent. That's just not cricket. Ha ha ha So virtually anyone who has died is a conspiracy .do you ever get out?? Firstly read again what I said about the leaks because you’ve blatantly not. You have just repeated you’re own beliefs. Secondly think on this. I can stand outside parliament with a banner decrying the government and telling anyone who will listen that they are corrupt and liars . Can you do the same I outside the Duma or The Great Hall if the People? You can go to jail in Russia right now for claiming the war in Ukraine is a war. Why have they closed all free to access open source social media? You know the place where people can say what they like just as you are doing right now. Blair made money and so will Boris from their incomes after leaving. They will benefit greatly from being a prime minister doing the usual tours. Putin has stolen the money. There’s a big difference. Did Blair make billions during his time in office making his speeches?? Have a word with yourself. Many years ago I read the history of Russia and the struggle to become a nation is truly epic. Whilst it is littered with relentless violence they eventually became one nation which included the so called Stans under a dictator The Tzar. Ivan the Terrible. Your blinkered view of the world is an embarrassment to the proud people of Russia and their struggle through history. You ignore the points I made over the deaths of so many. Do I believe our government are innocent ? Of course not and the establishment stinks including taking Russian stolen money but do I believe Putin is better? Definitely not. You are literally defending the prosecution and imprisonment of a journalist whose crime is doing journalism. Not only that you are defending the American empire and the cover up of war crimes including the murder of reuters journalists in Iraq as a necessary security precaution. You are a sick individual. There is no proof that Putin is behind the deaths you claim. None. There is however actual concrete proof that that the usa killed gadaffi, soloumani and other figures. In fact they brag about it. These are assassinations of political opponents. What you say about protests in Russia is lies. Russians can protest and they can express opinions. . However the protests are Tightly controlled and the Russians are at war. Russia is not the Uk. No matter how much you want it to be. Most Russians approve of tighg security around protests. If you protested thd second world waitld war or support for Hitler in ww2 you wouldn't last long without the police arresting you. Tony Blair and others has made millions in office and out of office as has nancy Pelosi and many other politicians. Including Joe Biden and hunter Biden who are currently funneling 59 billion dollars of tax payers money for ukranian weapons into their own pockets . The fact that you thibk its outrageous that Putin made money in the kleptocracy that was the fall of the soviet union is frankly ridiciculous, nobody gives a shit apart from the guardian, the Russian people certainly don't care. I’m a sick individual ?? Nice Yet again did you actually read what I put because it’s appears not. Yes I think I’ll leave you there in your sad delusional world . You’re not debating you’re just being abusive and offensive to those who challenge your political views . Your brainwashing is a success . I agreed with the west isn’t shining in glory but by you’re reckoning the pope will beatify Putin soon. As for most Russians support Putin. In public they have to. You disgrace those people by your blind loyalty to Putin. You’re not defending or supporting Russians. I’ll let you into a secret whilst you’re shouting you’re a victim . I have family who are Russian so let’s leave it there . If you have family that are Russian, which I doubt, then they will tell you everything I have said is pretty much spot on. I actually Do have family that are Russian so I know what I'm talking about. You actually defended the illegal imprisonment of Julian Assange for reporting on us war crimes and revealing the US torture programme and the drone striking of children. Something which you are attempting to morally equate with Putin stealing Russian money in a kleptocracy. The former you are arguing is morally justified thd latter isn't. That tells me everything I need to know about you. 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"I think it's hilarious how idiots on this thread attempt to hold Putin and Russia up to the "standards of the UK" and attempt to compare Putin with the morally upright figures of Tony Blair and Boris Johnson. Are you out of your f minds? But Blair & Johnson were voted out. The power of democracy and a parliamentary system. They didn’t change the rules to keep absolute power for 20+ years. Mind you, I’ve no doubt if they could the would! The difference is the British public detest Boris Johnson, and others but in Russia Putin is very popular, and is now overwhelmingly popular, his approval rating is near 90% the only conceivable opposition to Putin in terms of public support is the Russian communist party. Would you prefer the Russian communist party in office who actually want to take back all of Ukraine and re establish the Eastern bloc. Compare putins popularity with the current popularity of any of our political leaders... Our leaders openly lie to the British public. We forgive them and vote them back in. Putin is only popular because people are scared to speak out against him and his terrorist regime. He even blocks outside social media and Webb sites with anything about the invasion of Ukraine. If he had nothing to fear from his own people why would he do that ? Or poison imprison anyone who disagrees with his narrative
"Why shouldn't he? Most of those sites are spreading lies, disinformation and putting Russian soldiers under direct threat. Google, twitter and you tube all suppress pro Russian websites and views and openly admit to doing so. Russians do speak out against Putin, there are numerous examples, and Russia is very liberally minded towards opposing views. | |||
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"I think it's hilarious how idiots on this thread attempt to hold Putin and Russia up to the "standards of the UK" and attempt to compare Putin with the morally upright figures of Tony Blair and Boris Johnson. Are you out of your f minds? But Blair & Johnson were voted out. The power of democracy and a parliamentary system. They didn’t change the rules to keep absolute power for 20+ years. Mind you, I’ve no doubt if they could the would! The difference is the British public detest Boris Johnson, and others but in Russia Putin is very popular, and is now overwhelmingly popular, his approval rating is near 90% the only conceivable opposition to Putin in terms of public support is the Russian communist party. Would you prefer the Russian communist party in office who actually want to take back all of Ukraine and re establish the Eastern bloc. Compare putins popularity with the current popularity of any of our political leaders... Our leaders openly lie to the British public. We forgive them and vote them back in. Putin is only popular because people are scared to speak out against him and his terrorist regime. He even blocks outside social media and Webb sites with anything about the invasion of Ukraine. If he had nothing to fear from his own people why would he do that ? Or poison imprison anyone who disagrees with his narrative
Why shouldn't he? Most of those sites are spreading lies, disinformation and putting Russian soldiers under direct threat.
Google, twitter and you tube all suppress pro Russian websites and views and openly admit to doing so.
Russians do speak out against Putin, there are numerous examples, and Russia is very liberally minded towards opposing views.
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"I think it's hilarious how idiots on this thread attempt to hold Putin and Russia up to the "standards of the UK" and attempt to compare Putin with the morally upright figures of Tony Blair and Boris Johnson. Are you out of your f minds? But Blair & Johnson were voted out. The power of democracy and a parliamentary system. They didn’t change the rules to keep absolute power for 20+ years. Mind you, I’ve no doubt if they could the would! The difference is the British public detest Boris Johnson, and others but in Russia Putin is very popular, and is now overwhelmingly popular, his approval rating is near 90% the only conceivable opposition to Putin in terms of public support is the Russian communist party. Would you prefer the Russian communist party in office who actually want to take back all of Ukraine and re establish the Eastern bloc. Compare putins popularity with the current popularity of any of our political leaders... Our leaders openly lie to the British public. We forgive them and vote them back in. Putin is only popular because people are scared to speak out against him and his terrorist regime. He even blocks outside social media and Webb sites with anything about the invasion of Ukraine. If he had nothing to fear from his own people why would he do that ? Or poison imprison anyone who disagrees with his narrative
Why shouldn't he? Most of those sites are spreading lies, disinformation and putting Russian soldiers under direct threat.
Google, twitter and you tube all suppress pro Russian websites and views and openly admit to doing so.
Russians do speak out against Putin, there are numerous examples, and Russia is very liberally minded towards opposing views.
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"You wouldn't be saying that if Russian solders came to where you live." I would. Then they and Vlad the poisoner would thank me for my valued feedback, they would reward me with a week in the Mediterranean onboard Slob Labrov’s luxury yacht with and endless supply of prostitutes. I would then confirm the 90% popularity rating for our wonderful leader. Anyone seen the tractor production figures for this month? I’m off now to boil my half cabbage and have a sip of potato vodka. | |||
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"I think it's hilarious how idiots on this thread attempt to hold Putin and Russia up to the "standards of the UK" and attempt to compare Putin with the morally upright figures of Tony Blair and Boris Johnson. Are you out of your f minds? But Blair & Johnson were voted out. The power of democracy and a parliamentary system. They didn’t change the rules to keep absolute power for 20+ years. Mind you, I’ve no doubt if they could the would! The difference is the British public detest Boris Johnson, and others but in Russia Putin is very popular, and is now overwhelmingly popular, his approval rating is near 90% the only conceivable opposition to Putin in terms of public support is the Russian communist party. Would you prefer the Russian communist party in office who actually want to take back all of Ukraine and re establish the Eastern bloc. Compare putins popularity with the current popularity of any of our political leaders... Our leaders openly lie to the British public. We forgive them and vote them back in. Putin is only popular because people are scared to speak out against him and his terrorist regime. He even blocks outside social media and Webb sites with anything about the invasion of Ukraine. If he had nothing to fear from his own people why would he do that ? Or poison imprison anyone who disagrees with his narrative
Why shouldn't he? Most of those sites are spreading lies, disinformation and putting Russian soldiers under direct threat.
Google, twitter and you tube all suppress pro Russian websites and views and openly admit to doing so.
Russians do speak out against Putin, there are numerous examples, and Russia is very liberally minded towards opposing views.
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"[Removed by poster at 26/07/22 23:20:25] Op can't disseminate between Putin and the righteous. It's a general characteristic with this foolish behavior." disseminate? do you may mean differentiate unless you meant "OP can't spread between Putin and the righteous." Then I apologise and feel free to ignore me. | |||
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"I think it's hilarious how idiots on this thread attempt to hold Putin and Russia up to the "standards of the UK" and attempt to compare Putin with the morally upright figures of Tony Blair and Boris Johnson. Are you out of your f minds? But Blair & Johnson were voted out. The power of democracy and a parliamentary system. They didn’t change the rules to keep absolute power for 20+ years. Mind you, I’ve no doubt if they could the would! The difference is the British public detest Boris Johnson, and others but in Russia Putin is very popular, and is now overwhelmingly popular, his approval rating is near 90% the only conceivable opposition to Putin in terms of public support is the Russian communist party. Would you prefer the Russian communist party in office who actually want to take back all of Ukraine and re establish the Eastern bloc. Compare putins popularity with the current popularity of any of our political leaders... Our leaders openly lie to the British public. We forgive them and vote them back in. Putin is only popular because people are scared to speak out against him and his terrorist regime. He even blocks outside social media and Webb sites with anything about the invasion of Ukraine. If he had nothing to fear from his own people why would he do that ? Or poison imprison anyone who disagrees with his narrative
Why shouldn't he? Most of those sites are spreading lies, disinformation and putting Russian soldiers under direct threat.
Google, twitter and you tube all suppress pro Russian websites and views and openly admit to doing so.
Russians do speak out against Putin, there are numerous examples, and Russia is very liberally minded towards opposing views.
"Have you ever been to russia? Do you know many Russians? I’ve met many Russians and none of them would agree with anything you’re saying… What a lunatic… | |||
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"I think it's hilarious how idiots on this thread attempt to hold Putin and Russia up to the "standards of the UK" and attempt to compare Putin with the morally upright figures of Tony Blair and Boris Johnson. Are you out of your f minds? But Blair & Johnson were voted out. The power of democracy and a parliamentary system. They didn’t change the rules to keep absolute power for 20+ years. Mind you, I’ve no doubt if they could the would! The difference is the British public detest Boris Johnson, and others but in Russia Putin is very popular, and is now overwhelmingly popular, his approval rating is near 90% the only conceivable opposition to Putin in terms of public support is the Russian communist party. Would you prefer the Russian communist party in office who actually want to take back all of Ukraine and re establish the Eastern bloc. Compare putins popularity with the current popularity of any of our political leaders... Our leaders openly lie to the British public. We forgive them and vote them back in. Putin is only popular because people are scared to speak out against him and his terrorist regime. He even blocks outside social media and Webb sites with anything about the invasion of Ukraine. If he had nothing to fear from his own people why would he do that ? Or poison imprison anyone who disagrees with his narrative
Why shouldn't he? Most of those sites are spreading lies, disinformation and putting Russian soldiers under direct threat.
Google, twitter and you tube all suppress pro Russian websites and views and openly admit to doing so.
Russians do speak out against Putin, there are numerous examples, and Russia is very liberally minded towards opposing views.
Have you ever been to russia? Do you know many Russians?
I’ve met many Russians and none of them would agree with anything you’re saying…
What a lunatic… " | |||
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"I have defeated American and US apologists, Russiaphobia and genuine idiots on this thread through facts and logic... The victory, like the victory of Russia over the corrupt neo nazi cess poll that is Ukraine is overwhelmining.... " Too funny  , your victory is about as convincing as all that Russian propaganda they keep trotting out, you should go and join your mate mad Vlad and do the rest of us a favour . | |||
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"I have defeated American and US apologists, Russiaphobia and genuine idiots on this thread through facts and logic... The victory, like the victory of Russia over the corrupt neo nazi cess poll that is Ukraine is overwhelmining.... Too funny , your victory is about as convincing as all that Russian propaganda they keep trotting out, you should go and join your mate mad Vlad and do the rest of us a favour ."You can eat your words at your own leisure when Ukraine surrenders. That day is fast approaching and I will remind you of it. You can apologise to me then if you wish. | |||
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"Putin is unofficially the richest man in the world to the tune of hundreds of billions. Wealth like that isn't from a communist leader. He claims to have mother Russia at heart but I think he's only concerned about father Putin." hes the richest terrorist in the world | |||
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"I have defeated American and US apologists, Russiaphobia and genuine idiots on this thread through facts and logic... The victory, like the victory of Russia over the corrupt neo nazi cess poll that is Ukraine is overwhelmining.... Too funny , your victory is about as convincing as all that Russian propaganda they keep trotting out, you should go and join your mate mad Vlad and do the rest of us a favour ."Just a question. Which media sources are pushing Russian propaganda. | |||
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"I have defeated American and US apologists, Russiaphobia and genuine idiots on this thread through facts and logic... The victory, like the victory of Russia over the corrupt neo nazi cess poll that is Ukraine is overwhelmining.... Too funny , your victory is about as convincing as all that Russian propaganda they keep trotting out, you should go and join your mate mad Vlad and do the rest of us a favour .
You can eat your words at your own leisure when Ukraine surrenders. That day is fast approaching and I will remind you of it. You can apologise to me then if you wish.
"I hope Ukraine never surrenders, I hope that other countries will help them keep going and push the invading scum out of their sovereign country, but whatever happens i will never be apologising to someone like yourself with your beliefs, you make me sick with your deluded ideology. | |||
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"I have defeated American and US apologists, Russiaphobia and genuine idiots on this thread through facts and logic... The victory, like the victory of Russia over the corrupt neo nazi cess poll that is Ukraine is overwhelmining.... " What's whelmining? Are Whelms a new source of energy? | |||
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"I have defeated American and US apologists, Russiaphobia and genuine idiots on this thread through facts and logic... The victory, like the victory of Russia over the corrupt neo nazi cess poll that is Ukraine is overwhelmining.... Too funny , your victory is about as convincing as all that Russian propaganda they keep trotting out, you should go and join your mate mad Vlad and do the rest of us a favour .
You can eat your words at your own leisure when Ukraine surrenders. That day is fast approaching and I will remind you of it. You can apologise to me then if you wish.
I hope Ukraine never surrenders, I hope that other countries will help them keep going and push the invading scum out of their sovereign country, but whatever happens i will never be apologising to someone like yourself with your beliefs, you make me sick with your deluded ideology. "Bit early to have been on the sauce - the Devils lettuce perhaps? | |||
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"A thread started and continued by someone so bereft of contact they just take a controversial viewpoint to engage with other folk online. Hope you’re ok hun" Tis a thing indeed Still if someone has to go they have to go I guess. Life moves ever onwards | |||
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"A thread started and continued by someone so bereft of contact they just take a controversial viewpoint to engage with other folk online. Hope you’re ok hun" Bots gotta be bots.. The amount of conspiracy spouting fruit cakes that popped up when the virus hit, then got switched to other issues by their paymasters.. | |||
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"A thread started and continued by someone so bereft of contact they just take a controversial viewpoint to engage with other folk online. Hope you’re ok hun" Your projection of your own feelings and state of mind is noted. My viewpoint is only controversial to lazy thinkers like yourself who cannot be bothered or lack the intellectual faculties to establish truth and facts. | |||
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"A thread started and continued by someone so bereft of contact they just take a controversial viewpoint to engage with other folk online. Hope you’re ok hun Bots gotta be bots.. The amount of conspiracy spouting fruit cakes that popped up when the virus hit, then got switched to other issues by their paymasters.. " Facts and logic or reading the Daily Mail.. You made your choice long ago and now you are hopelessly lost in a fog of media propaganda with only the Daily Mail to show you the way.. That's a genuinely frightening situation to be in imo. | |||
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"A thread started and continued by someone so bereft of contact they just take a controversial viewpoint to engage with other folk online. Hope you’re ok hun Your projection of your own feelings and state of mind is noted. My viewpoint is only controversial to lazy thinkers like yourself who cannot be bothered or lack the intellectual faculties to establish truth and facts. " You see, it’s right there. The arrogant & rude characteristics that show you truly are of Russian heritage. I’ve never met a Russian that I liked. | |||
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"A thread started and continued by someone so bereft of contact they just take a controversial viewpoint to engage with other folk online. Hope you’re ok hun Bots gotta be bots.. The amount of conspiracy spouting fruit cakes that popped up when the virus hit, then got switched to other issues by their paymasters.. Facts and logic or reading the Daily Mail.. You made your choice long ago and now you are hopelessly lost in a fog of media propaganda with only the Daily Mail to show you the way.. That's a genuinely frightening situation to be in imo. " The daily hate..?
Only less crap than RT in its proven biased claptrap, sucked up whole by gullible types..
Why I'm bothering to debate with you when your reading from a script, hey ho.. | |||
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"A thread started and continued by someone so bereft of contact they just take a controversial viewpoint to engage with other folk online. Hope you’re ok hun Bots gotta be bots.. The amount of conspiracy spouting fruit cakes that popped up when the virus hit, then got switched to other issues by their paymasters.. Facts and logic or reading the Daily Mail.. You made your choice long ago and now you are hopelessly lost in a fog of media propaganda with only the Daily Mail to show you the way.. That's a genuinely frightening situation to be in imo. The daily hate..?
Only less crap than RT in its proven biased claptrap, sucked up whole by gullible types..
Why I'm bothering to debate with you when your reading from a script, hey ho.."This thread will get closed soon enough lol | |||
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"A thread started and continued by someone so bereft of contact they just take a controversial viewpoint to engage with other folk online. Hope you’re ok hun Bots gotta be bots.. The amount of conspiracy spouting fruit cakes that popped up when the virus hit, then got switched to other issues by their paymasters.. Facts and logic or reading the Daily Mail.. You made your choice long ago and now you are hopelessly lost in a fog of media propaganda with only the Daily Mail to show you the way.. That's a genuinely frightening situation to be in imo. The daily hate..?
Only less crap than RT in its proven biased claptrap, sucked up whole by gullible types..
Why I'm bothering to debate with you when your reading from a script, hey ho..
This thread will get closed soon enough lol "I think you are right. An idea to calm things down a bit. The weekend is almost here, this is a swingers site, can someone please meet this guy and shag his brains out. It may help him to relax. And breath. | |||
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"On a Russian note. Has anyone seen the pictures of their own version McDonald’s they have set up
Couple of my porn model friends out there say the burgers are actually pretty good considering "Wtf actually thinks McDonald's is good food??? Of course Russia can do better than cheap American crappy junk food which has, been forced on people in this country | |||
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"On a Russian note. Has anyone seen the pictures of their own version McDonald’s they have set up
Couple of my porn model friends out there say the burgers are actually pretty good considering
Wtf actually thinks McDonald's is good food???
Of course Russia can do better than cheap American crappy junk food which has, been forced on people in this country "How many ways can you prepare half a cabbage washed down with potato vodka? Yum yum. | |||
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"On a Russian note. Has anyone seen the pictures of their own version McDonald’s they have set up
Couple of my porn model friends out there say the burgers are actually pretty good considering
Wtf actually thinks McDonald's is good food???
Of course Russia can do better than cheap American crappy junk food which has, been forced on people in this country
How many ways can you prepare half a cabbage washed down with potato vodka? Yum yum. "That comment sums up everything I need to know about your knowledge of Russia the Russian people and politics and history generally. Cheap stereotypes, ignorance and prejudice. | |||
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"On a Russian note. Has anyone seen the pictures of their own version McDonald’s they have set up
Couple of my porn model friends out there say the burgers are actually pretty good considering
Wtf actually thinks McDonald's is good food???
Of course Russia can do better than cheap American crappy junk food which has, been forced on people in this country
How many ways can you prepare half a cabbage washed down with potato vodka? Yum yum.
That comment sums up everything I need to know about your knowledge of Russia the Russian people and politics and history generally.
Cheap stereotypes, ignorance and prejudice.
"I asked at the start of this thread what you hoped to achieve by starting such a thread. Am surprised your surprised. A lot of the regulars here love to bash non English in general on here. Starting a thread on your love of Russia was just asking for this type of responses. | |||
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"On a Russian note. Has anyone seen the pictures of their own version McDonald’s they have set up
Couple of my porn model friends out there say the burgers are actually pretty good considering
Wtf actually thinks McDonald's is good food???
Of course Russia can do better than cheap American crappy junk food which has, been forced on people in this country
How many ways can you prepare half a cabbage washed down with potato vodka? Yum yum.
That comment sums up everything I need to know about your knowledge of Russia the Russian people and politics and history generally.
Cheap stereotypes, ignorance and prejudice.
I asked at the start of this thread what you hoped to achieve by starting such a thread. Am surprised your surprised.
A lot of the regulars here love to bash non English in general on here. Starting a thread on your love of Russia was just asking for this type of responses."Yeah fair point. I expected better but I'm not too suprised at the general levels of idiocy. Like I said I triumphed through facts and logic. My us and neo nazi apologists were forced into submission through cold facts. | |||
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"On a Russian note. Has anyone seen the pictures of their own version McDonald’s they have set up
Couple of my porn model friends out there say the burgers are actually pretty good considering
Wtf actually thinks McDonald's is good food???
Of course Russia can do better than cheap American crappy junk food which has, been forced on people in this country
How many ways can you prepare half a cabbage washed down with potato vodka? Yum yum.
That comment sums up everything I need to know about your knowledge of Russia the Russian people and politics and history generally.
Cheap stereotypes, ignorance and prejudice.
I asked at the start of this thread what you hoped to achieve by starting such a thread. Am surprised your surprised.
A lot of the regulars here love to bash non English in general on here. Starting a thread on your love of Russia was just asking for this type of responses.
Yeah fair point. I expected better but I'm not too suprised at the general levels of idiocy.
Like I said I triumphed through facts and logic. My us and neo nazi apologists were forced into submission through cold facts.
"Interesting you see it as a triumph. So it was never about hearing from those that agree or disagree like you originally said. | |||
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"On a Russian note. Has anyone seen the pictures of their own version McDonald’s they have set up
Couple of my porn model friends out there say the burgers are actually pretty good considering
Wtf actually thinks McDonald's is good food???
Of course Russia can do better than cheap American crappy junk food which has, been forced on people in this country
How many ways can you prepare half a cabbage washed down with potato vodka? Yum yum.
That comment sums up everything I need to know about your knowledge of Russia the Russian people and politics and history generally.
Cheap stereotypes, ignorance and prejudice.
I asked at the start of this thread what you hoped to achieve by starting such a thread. Am surprised your surprised.
A lot of the regulars here love to bash non English in general on here. Starting a thread on your love of Russia was just asking for this type of responses.
Yeah fair point. I expected better but I'm not too suprised at the general levels of idiocy.
Like I said I triumphed through facts and logic. My us and neo nazi apologists were forced into submission through cold facts.
Interesting you see it as a triumph. So it was never about hearing from those that agree or disagree like you originally said."Of course, always interested in hearing other opinions and a good discussion. | |||
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"On a Russian note. Has anyone seen the pictures of their own version McDonald’s they have set up
Couple of my porn model friends out there say the burgers are actually pretty good considering
Wtf actually thinks McDonald's is good food???
Of course Russia can do better than cheap American crappy junk food which has, been forced on people in this country
How many ways can you prepare half a cabbage washed down with potato vodka? Yum yum.
That comment sums up everything I need to know about your knowledge of Russia the Russian people and politics and history generally.
Cheap stereotypes, ignorance and prejudice.
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"What are you hoping to gain from such a thread...? Attention "And be a good bot for ones hands dripping with innocent blood paymaster's.. | |||
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