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"60 year old satire  "You don't think it holds up today? I do | |||
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You don't think it holds up today? I do"Of course you do. | |||
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You don't think it holds up today? I do
Of course you do. "Are you a ‘patriot’ ? | |||
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"I class myself as a Patriot. I’ve no doubt there are those that look sideways at others disapprovingly because of XYZ, but not all Patriots are narrow minded bigots." Of course not, but what is it that makes you a patriot? And do any of the OPs points resonate with you | |||
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"I class myself as a Patriot. I’ve no doubt there are those that look sideways at others disapprovingly because of XYZ, but not all Patriots are narrow minded bigots." a patriot to what? | |||
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"I class myself as a Patriot. I’ve no doubt there are those that look sideways at others disapprovingly because of XYZ, but not all Patriots are narrow minded bigots. Of course not, but what is it that makes you a patriot? And do any of the OPs points resonate with you " Almost everyone in the army can be classified as patriot. I don't think they are all bigots. | |||
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"I class myself as a Patriot. I’ve no doubt there are those that look sideways at others disapprovingly because of XYZ, but not all Patriots are narrow minded bigots. Of course not, but what is it that makes you a patriot? And do any of the OPs points resonate with you Almost everyone in the army can be classified as patriot. I don't think they are all bigots." Who said they were? | |||
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"I class myself as a Patriot. I’ve no doubt there are those that look sideways at others disapprovingly because of XYZ, but not all Patriots are narrow minded bigots. Of course not, but what is it that makes you a patriot? And do any of the OPs points resonate with you Almost everyone in the army can be classified as patriot. I don't think they are all bigots. Who said they were?" Your original post looks like a generic criticism on patriotism. But the truth is far from that. | |||
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"I class myself as a Patriot. I’ve no doubt there are those that look sideways at others disapprovingly because of XYZ, but not all Patriots are narrow minded bigots. Of course not, but what is it that makes you a patriot? And do any of the OPs points resonate with you Almost everyone in the army can be classified as patriot. I don't think they are all bigots." What makes a ‘patriot’ | |||
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"I class myself as a Patriot. I’ve no doubt there are those that look sideways at others disapprovingly because of XYZ, but not all Patriots are narrow minded bigots. Of course not, but what is it that makes you a patriot? And do any of the OPs points resonate with you Almost everyone in the army can be classified as patriot. I don't think they are all bigots. What makes a ‘patriot’ " Dictionary says - a person who vigorously supports their country and is prepared to defend it against enemies or detractors. People in army are patriots by default. | |||
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"I class myself as a Patriot. I’ve no doubt there are those that look sideways at others disapprovingly because of XYZ, but not all Patriots are narrow minded bigots. Of course not, but what is it that makes you a patriot? And do any of the OPs points resonate with you Almost everyone in the army can be classified as patriot. I don't think they are all bigots. What makes a ‘patriot’ Dictionary says - a person who vigorously supports their country and is prepared to defend it against enemies or detractors. People in army are patriots by default." What makes you a patriot? | |||
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"I class myself as a Patriot. I’ve no doubt there are those that look sideways at others disapprovingly because of XYZ, but not all Patriots are narrow minded bigots. Of course not, but what is it that makes you a patriot? And do any of the OPs points resonate with you Almost everyone in the army can be classified as patriot. I don't think they are all bigots. What makes a ‘patriot’ Dictionary says - a person who vigorously supports their country and is prepared to defend it against enemies or detractors. People in army are patriots by default. What makes you a patriot? " Not sure why you keep asking the question again and again. I am not a patriot. I will be one if I support the country and willing to fight for it. | |||
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"I class myself as a Patriot. I’ve no doubt there are those that look sideways at others disapprovingly because of XYZ, but not all Patriots are narrow minded bigots. Of course not, but what is it that makes you a patriot? And do any of the OPs points resonate with you Almost everyone in the army can be classified as patriot. I don't think they are all bigots. Who said they were? Your original post looks like a generic criticism on patriotism. But the truth is far from that." So by your own words, the problem lies in how you read the text... | |||
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"I class myself as a Patriot. I’ve no doubt there are those that look sideways at others disapprovingly because of XYZ, but not all Patriots are narrow minded bigots. Of course not, but what is it that makes you a patriot? And do any of the OPs points resonate with you Almost everyone in the army can be classified as patriot. I don't think they are all bigots. What makes a ‘patriot’ Dictionary says - a person who vigorously supports their country and is prepared to defend it against enemies or detractors. People in army are patriots by default. What makes you a patriot? Not sure why you keep asking the question again and again. I am not a patriot. I will be one if I support the country and willing to fight for it." Sorry, I hadn’t realised I had already asked, | |||
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"I class myself as a Patriot. I’ve no doubt there are those that look sideways at others disapprovingly because of XYZ, but not all Patriots are narrow minded bigots. Of course not, but what is it that makes you a patriot? And do any of the OPs points resonate with you Almost everyone in the army can be classified as patriot. I don't think they are all bigots. What makes a ‘patriot’ Dictionary says - a person who vigorously supports their country and is prepared to defend it against enemies or detractors. People in army are patriots by default. What makes you a patriot? Not sure why you keep asking the question again and again. I am not a patriot. I will be one if I support the country and willing to fight for it." all sounds a bit vague to be honest. | |||
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"I class myself as a Patriot. I’ve no doubt there are those that look sideways at others disapprovingly because of XYZ, but not all Patriots are narrow minded bigots. Of course not, but what is it that makes you a patriot? And do any of the OPs points resonate with you Almost everyone in the army can be classified as patriot. I don't think they are all bigots. Who said they were? Your original post looks like a generic criticism on patriotism. But the truth is far from that. So by your own words, the problem lies in how you read the text..." How else do you read the original post? Your original post makes a blanket statement that's both wrong and nonsensical. | |||
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"I class myself as a Patriot. I’ve no doubt there are those that look sideways at others disapprovingly because of XYZ, but not all Patriots are narrow minded bigots. Of course not, but what is it that makes you a patriot? And do any of the OPs points resonate with you Almost everyone in the army can be classified as patriot. I don't think they are all bigots. What makes a ‘patriot’ Dictionary says - a person who vigorously supports their country and is prepared to defend it against enemies or detractors. People in army are patriots by default. What makes you a patriot? Not sure why you keep asking the question again and again. I am not a patriot. I will be one if I support the country and willing to fight for it. all sounds a bit vague to be honest." From what I can gather, you can only be a patriot if your in the armed forces | |||
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"I class myself as a Patriot. I’ve no doubt there are those that look sideways at others disapprovingly because of XYZ, but not all Patriots are narrow minded bigots. Of course not, but what is it that makes you a patriot? And do any of the OPs points resonate with you Almost everyone in the army can be classified as patriot. I don't think they are all bigots. What makes a ‘patriot’ Dictionary says - a person who vigorously supports their country and is prepared to defend it against enemies or detractors. People in army are patriots by default. What makes you a patriot? Not sure why you keep asking the question again and again. I am not a patriot. I will be one if I support the country and willing to fight for it. all sounds a bit vague to be honest." If you don't want to understand, everything will sound vague. Pretty sure it's not hard even for kindergarten children to understand that army personnel are patriotic and the reason is they are willing to fight for the country and make sacrifices for it. | |||
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"I class myself as a Patriot. I’ve no doubt there are those that look sideways at others disapprovingly because of XYZ, but not all Patriots are narrow minded bigots. Of course not, but what is it that makes you a patriot? And do any of the OPs points resonate with you Almost everyone in the army can be classified as patriot. I don't think they are all bigots. What makes a ‘patriot’ Dictionary says - a person who vigorously supports their country and is prepared to defend it against enemies or detractors. People in army are patriots by default. What makes you a patriot? Not sure why you keep asking the question again and again. I am not a patriot. I will be one if I support the country and willing to fight for it. all sounds a bit vague to be honest. If you don't want to understand, everything will sound vague. Pretty sure it's not hard even for kindergarten children to understand that army personnel are patriotic and the reason is they are willing to fight for the country and make sacrifices for it." your continuing to be vague | |||
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"I class myself as a Patriot. I’ve no doubt there are those that look sideways at others disapprovingly because of XYZ, but not all Patriots are narrow minded bigots. Of course not, but what is it that makes you a patriot? And do any of the OPs points resonate with you Almost everyone in the army can be classified as patriot. I don't think they are all bigots. What makes a ‘patriot’ Dictionary says - a person who vigorously supports their country and is prepared to defend it against enemies or detractors. People in army are patriots by default. What makes you a patriot? Not sure why you keep asking the question again and again. I am not a patriot. I will be one if I support the country and willing to fight for it. all sounds a bit vague to be honest. From what I can gather, you can only be a patriot if your in the armed forces " You can be a patriot if you are willing to put the country's needs above your personal needs. Gandhi was not part of army. He was a patriot because he sacrificed a lot for the country. Seriously, this can't be hard to get unless you purposely do not want to understand. | |||
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"I class myself as a Patriot. I’ve no doubt there are those that look sideways at others disapprovingly because of XYZ, but not all Patriots are narrow minded bigots. Of course not, but what is it that makes you a patriot? And do any of the OPs points resonate with you Almost everyone in the army can be classified as patriot. I don't think they are all bigots. What makes a ‘patriot’ Dictionary says - a person who vigorously supports their country and is prepared to defend it against enemies or detractors. People in army are patriots by default. What makes you a patriot? Not sure why you keep asking the question again and again. I am not a patriot. I will be one if I support the country and willing to fight for it. all sounds a bit vague to be honest. If you don't want to understand, everything will sound vague. Pretty sure it's not hard even for kindergarten children to understand that army personnel are patriotic and the reason is they are willing to fight for the country and make sacrifices for it. your continuing to be vague " You continuing to act like you don't understand. Of course, anything that doesn't align with your political views shouldn't be understood and responded with dumbness. | |||
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"so republicans are patriots? who knew? "Where did I say that? Did republicans put the country above self and sacrifice for it? Again, not really hard to understand. | |||
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"I class myself as a Patriot. I’ve no doubt there are those that look sideways at others disapprovingly because of XYZ, but not all Patriots are narrow minded bigots. Of course not, but what is it that makes you a patriot? And do any of the OPs points resonate with you Almost everyone in the army can be classified as patriot. I don't think they are all bigots. What makes a ‘patriot’ Dictionary says - a person who vigorously supports their country and is prepared to defend it against enemies or detractors. People in army are patriots by default. What makes you a patriot? Not sure why you keep asking the question again and again. I am not a patriot. I will be one if I support the country and willing to fight for it. all sounds a bit vague to be honest. From what I can gather, you can only be a patriot if your in the armed forces You can be a patriot if you are willing to put the country's needs above your personal needs. Gandhi was not part of army. He was a patriot because he sacrificed a lot for the country. Seriously, this can't be hard to get unless you purposely do not want to understand." Again, your being very vague, so a patriot can only be someone in the armed forces and/or someone who has sacrificed a lot for their country, | |||
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"I class myself as a Patriot. I’ve no doubt there are those that look sideways at others disapprovingly because of XYZ, but not all Patriots are narrow minded bigots. Of course not, but what is it that makes you a patriot? And do any of the OPs points resonate with you Almost everyone in the army can be classified as patriot. I don't think they are all bigots. Who said they were? Your original post looks like a generic criticism on patriotism. But the truth is far from that. So by your own words, the problem lies in how you read the text... How else do you read the original post? Your original post makes a blanket statement that's both wrong and nonsensical." You are the one that made it a blanket statement, the original text did not. it says "The Patriot" which is about as opposite to a blanket statement as possible... its being specific. It then goes on to describe what they say, now if the patriots you are thinking of are not saying this then they are not what are being spoken about are they? It's a little like the people who hear/read "Black Lives Matter" and they read it as "Only Black Lives Matter" when that is not what is being said. | |||
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"I class myself as a Patriot. I’ve no doubt there are those that look sideways at others disapprovingly because of XYZ, but not all Patriots are narrow minded bigots. Of course not, but what is it that makes you a patriot? And do any of the OPs points resonate with you Almost everyone in the army can be classified as patriot. I don't think they are all bigots. Who said they were? Your original post looks like a generic criticism on patriotism. But the truth is far from that. So by your own words, the problem lies in how you read the text... How else do you read the original post? Your original post makes a blanket statement that's both wrong and nonsensical. You are the one that made it a blanket statement, the original text did not. it says "The Patriot" which is about as opposite to a blanket statement as possible... its being specific. It then goes on to describe what they say, now if the patriots you are thinking of are not saying this then they are not what are being spoken about are they? It's a little like the people who hear/read "Black Lives Matter" and they read it as "Only Black Lives Matter" when that is not what is being said." The original post is a blanket statement about patriots. It literally ends by saying "Now you know what a Patriot is."
And you are claiming it's not a blanket statement about all patriots?
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"I class myself as a Patriot. I’ve no doubt there are those that look sideways at others disapprovingly because of XYZ, but not all Patriots are narrow minded bigots. Of course not, but what is it that makes you a patriot? And do any of the OPs points resonate with you Almost everyone in the army can be classified as patriot. I don't think they are all bigots. Who said they were? Your original post looks like a generic criticism on patriotism. But the truth is far from that. So by your own words, the problem lies in how you read the text... How else do you read the original post? Your original post makes a blanket statement that's both wrong and nonsensical. You are the one that made it a blanket statement, the original text did not. it says "The Patriot" which is about as opposite to a blanket statement as possible... its being specific. It then goes on to describe what they say, now if the patriots you are thinking of are not saying this then they are not what are being spoken about are they? It's a little like the people who hear/read "Black Lives Matter" and they read it as "Only Black Lives Matter" when that is not what is being said. The original post is a blanket statement about patriots. It literally ends by saying "Now you know what a Patriot is."
And you are claiming it's not a blanket statement about all patriots?
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"I class myself as a Patriot. I’ve no doubt there are those that look sideways at others disapprovingly because of XYZ, but not all Patriots are narrow minded bigots. Of course not, but what is it that makes you a patriot? And do any of the OPs points resonate with you Almost everyone in the army can be classified as patriot. I don't think they are all bigots. Who said they were? Your original post looks like a generic criticism on patriotism. But the truth is far from that. So by your own words, the problem lies in how you read the text... How else do you read the original post? Your original post makes a blanket statement that's both wrong and nonsensical. You are the one that made it a blanket statement, the original text did not. it says "The Patriot" which is about as opposite to a blanket statement as possible... its being specific. It then goes on to describe what they say, now if the patriots you are thinking of are not saying this then they are not what are being spoken about are they? It's a little like the people who hear/read "Black Lives Matter" and they read it as "Only Black Lives Matter" when that is not what is being said. The original post is a blanket statement about patriots. It literally ends by saying "Now you know what a Patriot is."
And you are claiming it's not a blanket statement about all patriots?
That is exactly what I am saying.
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"you haven't explained anything regarding what is a patriot to be fair .... you said something about the army and other vaguery but a patriot to what concept? england, the united kingdom? the monarchy? the church of england? please try to be less vague "You d*unk or stoned? I didn't even use half the words to mentioned. Have a good night. | |||
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" And you are claiming it's not a blanket statement about all patriots? That is exactly what I am saying. So you are accepting you made a blanket statement about all patriots?" What? Are you claiming it is NOT a blanket statement? Exactly what I am saying! So you are admitting it IS a blanket statement... Have you bean out in the sun too long? | |||
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" And you are claiming it's not a blanket statement about all patriots? That is exactly what I am saying. So you are accepting you made a blanket statement about all patriots? What? Are you claiming it is NOT a blanket statement? Exactly what I am saying! So you are admitting it IS a blanket statement... Have you bean out in the sun too long?" Your post ends by saying: "Now you know what a Patriot is." How is it not a blanket statement about all patriots? | |||
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" And you are claiming it's not a blanket statement about all patriots? That is exactly what I am saying. So you are accepting you made a blanket statement about all patriots? What? Are you claiming it is NOT a blanket statement? Exactly what I am saying! So you are admitting it IS a blanket statement... Have you bean out in the sun too long? Your post ends by saying: "Now you know what a Patriot is." How is it not a blanket statement about all patriots?" And yet... it isn't. It is a satirical piece about bigotry wrapped in the claim of patriotism. a 12 year old could get that | |||
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"you haven't explained anything regarding what is a patriot to be fair .... you said something about the army and other vaguery but a patriot to what concept? england, the united kingdom? the monarchy? the church of england? please try to be less vague
You d*unk or stoned? I didn't even use half the words to mentioned. Have a good night."so you don't know what makes a patriot, so you can't answer, so you get angry about it, so you insult people asking for your explaination. it's not gone well for you here in honesty. shame you are unable to shed any discernable input on the subject as opposed to vaguery. | |||
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" And you are claiming it's not a blanket statement about all patriots? That is exactly what I am saying. So you are accepting you made a blanket statement about all patriots? What? Are you claiming it is NOT a blanket statement? Exactly what I am saying! So you are admitting it IS a blanket statement... Have you bean out in the sun too long? Your post ends by saying: "Now you know what a Patriot is." How is it not a blanket statement about all patriots? And yet... it isn't. It is a satirical piece about bigotry wrapped in the claim of patriotism. a 12 year old could get that" "Now you know what a Patriot is" is a blanket definition of an entire group. A 6 year old could get that. Some bigots are patriots, just like some bigots are farmers, software programmers. To write an entire satire and ending it by saying this is what a Patriot is, is nothing short of irrational generalisation. Satire isn't an excuse for being stupid. | |||
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"you haven't explained anything regarding what is a patriot to be fair .... you said something about the army and other vaguery but a patriot to what concept? england, the united kingdom? the monarchy? the church of england? please try to be less vague
You d*unk or stoned? I didn't even use half the words to mentioned. Have a good night.
so you don't know what makes a patriot, so you can't answer, so you get angry about it, so you insult people asking for your explaination. it's not gone well for you here in honesty. shame you are unable to shed any discernable input on the subject as opposed to vaguery. "I insult people when I have given explanation of a word which a kindergarten student can understand while a grown up acts like he couldn't understand. | |||
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" And you are claiming it's not a blanket statement about all patriots? That is exactly what I am saying. So you are accepting you made a blanket statement about all patriots? What? Are you claiming it is NOT a blanket statement? Exactly what I am saying! So you are admitting it IS a blanket statement... Have you bean out in the sun too long? Your post ends by saying: "Now you know what a Patriot is." How is it not a blanket statement about all patriots? And yet... it isn't. It is a satirical piece about bigotry wrapped in the claim of patriotism. a 12 year old could get that "Now you know what a Patriot is" is a blanket definition of an entire group. A 6 year old could get that. Some bigots are patriots, just like some bigots are farmers, software programmers. To write an entire satire and ending it by saying this is what a Patriot is, is nothing short of irrational generalisation. Satire isn't an excuse for being stupid." then how is it you're the only one struggling with the concept? It is ok if you don't understand. | |||
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"you haven't explained anything regarding what is a patriot to be fair .... you said something about the army and other vaguery but a patriot to what concept? england, the united kingdom? the monarchy? the church of england? please try to be less vague
You d*unk or stoned? I didn't even use half the words to mentioned. Have a good night.
so you don't know what makes a patriot, so you can't answer, so you get angry about it, so you insult people asking for your explaination. it's not gone well for you here in honesty. shame you are unable to shed any discernable input on the subject as opposed to vaguery.
I insult people when I have given explanation of a word which a kindergarten student can understand while a grown up acts like he couldn't understand."Tbh, your having a mare, it is embarrassing to watch | |||
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" And you are claiming it's not a blanket statement about all patriots? That is exactly what I am saying. So you are accepting you made a blanket statement about all patriots? What? Are you claiming it is NOT a blanket statement? Exactly what I am saying! So you are admitting it IS a blanket statement... Have you bean out in the sun too long? Your post ends by saying: "Now you know what a Patriot is." How is it not a blanket statement about all patriots? And yet... it isn't. It is a satirical piece about bigotry wrapped in the claim of patriotism. a 12 year old could get that "Now you know what a Patriot is" is a blanket definition of an entire group. A 6 year old could get that. Some bigots are patriots, just like some bigots are farmers, software programmers. To write an entire satire and ending it by saying this is what a Patriot is, is nothing short of irrational generalisation. Satire isn't an excuse for being stupid. then how is it you're the only one struggling with the concept? It is ok if you don't understand." I am not the only one. Everyone in this thread don't even seem to know the meaning of the word patriot and are asking me. Didn't you see that?
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"you haven't explained anything regarding what is a patriot to be fair .... you said something about the army and other vaguery but a patriot to what concept? england, the united kingdom? the monarchy? the church of england? please try to be less vague
You d*unk or stoned? I didn't even use half the words to mentioned. Have a good night.
so you don't know what makes a patriot, so you can't answer, so you get angry about it, so you insult people asking for your explaination. it's not gone well for you here in honesty. shame you are unable to shed any discernable input on the subject as opposed to vaguery.
I insult people when I have given explanation of a word which a kindergarten student can understand while a grown up acts like he couldn't understand.
Tbh, your having a mare, it is embarrassing to watch "It's embarrassing that a bunch of grown ups don't know the meaning of the word patriot. | |||
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" And you are claiming it's not a blanket statement about all patriots? That is exactly what I am saying. So you are accepting you made a blanket statement about all patriots? What? Are you claiming it is NOT a blanket statement? Exactly what I am saying! So you are admitting it IS a blanket statement... Have you bean out in the sun too long? Your post ends by saying: "Now you know what a Patriot is." How is it not a blanket statement about all patriots? And yet... it isn't. It is a satirical piece about bigotry wrapped in the claim of patriotism. a 12 year old could get that "Now you know what a Patriot is" is a blanket definition of an entire group. A 6 year old could get that. Some bigots are patriots, just like some bigots are farmers, software programmers. To write an entire satire and ending it by saying this is what a Patriot is, is nothing short of irrational generalisation. Satire isn't an excuse for being stupid. then how is it you're the only one struggling with the concept? It is ok if you don't understand. I am not the only one. Everyone in this thread don't even seem to know the meaning of the word patriot and are asking me. Didn't you see that?
How exactly will they understand this satire then?"Honestly I think they are having issues with your poor handling of the understanding of a dictionary definition, not with the satire. | |||
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"you haven't explained anything regarding what is a patriot to be fair .... you said something about the army and other vaguery but a patriot to what concept? england, the united kingdom? the monarchy? the church of england? please try to be less vague
You d*unk or stoned? I didn't even use half the words to mentioned. Have a good night.
so you don't know what makes a patriot, so you can't answer, so you get angry about it, so you insult people asking for your explaination. it's not gone well for you here in honesty. shame you are unable to shed any discernable input on the subject as opposed to vaguery.
I insult people when I have given explanation of a word which a kindergarten student can understand while a grown up acts like he couldn't understand.
Tbh, your having a mare, it is embarrassing to watch
It's embarrassing that a bunch of grown ups don't know the meaning of the word patriot. "The only one who doesn’t understand is you, I asked you what you thought was a patriot and you rambled on about the army and Ghandi then had a hissy fit | |||
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" And you are claiming it's not a blanket statement about all patriots? That is exactly what I am saying. So you are accepting you made a blanket statement about all patriots? What? Are you claiming it is NOT a blanket statement? Exactly what I am saying! So you are admitting it IS a blanket statement... Have you bean out in the sun too long? Your post ends by saying: "Now you know what a Patriot is." How is it not a blanket statement about all patriots? And yet... it isn't. It is a satirical piece about bigotry wrapped in the claim of patriotism. a 12 year old could get that "Now you know what a Patriot is" is a blanket definition of an entire group. A 6 year old could get that. Some bigots are patriots, just like some bigots are farmers, software programmers. To write an entire satire and ending it by saying this is what a Patriot is, is nothing short of irrational generalisation. Satire isn't an excuse for being stupid. then how is it you're the only one struggling with the concept? It is ok if you don't understand. I am not the only one. Everyone in this thread don't even seem to know the meaning of the word patriot and are asking me. Didn't you see that?
How exactly will they understand this satire then?
Honestly I think they are having issues with your poor handling of the understanding of a dictionary definition, not with the satire."I saw someone randomly rambling about British monarchy. I don't think they do. | |||
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"you haven't explained anything regarding what is a patriot to be fair .... you said something about the army and other vaguery but a patriot to what concept? england, the united kingdom? the monarchy? the church of england? please try to be less vague
You d*unk or stoned? I didn't even use half the words to mentioned. Have a good night.
so you don't know what makes a patriot, so you can't answer, so you get angry about it, so you insult people asking for your explaination. it's not gone well for you here in honesty. shame you are unable to shed any discernable input on the subject as opposed to vaguery.
I insult people when I have given explanation of a word which a kindergarten student can understand while a grown up acts like he couldn't understand.
Tbh, your having a mare, it is embarrassing to watch
It's embarrassing that a bunch of grown ups don't know the meaning of the word patriot. "you appear to be the one freaking out and insulting people because you can't define the concept of a patriot chap | |||
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"you haven't explained anything regarding what is a patriot to be fair .... you said something about the army and other vaguery but a patriot to what concept? england, the united kingdom? the monarchy? the church of england? please try to be less vague
You d*unk or stoned? I didn't even use half the words to mentioned. Have a good night.
so you don't know what makes a patriot, so you can't answer, so you get angry about it, so you insult people asking for your explaination. it's not gone well for you here in honesty. shame you are unable to shed any discernable input on the subject as opposed to vaguery.
I insult people when I have given explanation of a word which a kindergarten student can understand while a grown up acts like he couldn't understand.
Tbh, your having a mare, it is embarrassing to watch
It's embarrassing that a bunch of grown ups don't know the meaning of the word patriot.
The only one who doesn’t understand is you, I asked you what you thought was a patriot and you rambled on about the army and Ghandi then had a hissy fit "Oh really? Then it's your turn. Can you explain what patriotism is? Maybe I can fix my understanding. | |||
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"you haven't explained anything regarding what is a patriot to be fair .... you said something about the army and other vaguery but a patriot to what concept? england, the united kingdom? the monarchy? the church of england? please try to be less vague
You d*unk or stoned? I didn't even use half the words to mentioned. Have a good night.
so you don't know what makes a patriot, so you can't answer, so you get angry about it, so you insult people asking for your explaination. it's not gone well for you here in honesty. shame you are unable to shed any discernable input on the subject as opposed to vaguery.
I insult people when I have given explanation of a word which a kindergarten student can understand while a grown up acts like he couldn't understand.
Tbh, your having a mare, it is embarrassing to watch
It's embarrassing that a bunch of grown ups don't know the meaning of the word patriot.
you appear to be the one freaking out and insulting people because you can't define the concept of a patriot chap "At least I don't imagine posts that were never made. British monarchy | |||
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"you haven't explained anything regarding what is a patriot to be fair .... you said something about the army and other vaguery but a patriot to what concept? england, the united kingdom? the monarchy? the church of england? please try to be less vague
You d*unk or stoned? I didn't even use half the words to mentioned. Have a good night.
so you don't know what makes a patriot, so you can't answer, so you get angry about it, so you insult people asking for your explaination. it's not gone well for you here in honesty. shame you are unable to shed any discernable input on the subject as opposed to vaguery.
I insult people when I have given explanation of a word which a kindergarten student can understand while a grown up acts like he couldn't understand.
Tbh, your having a mare, it is embarrassing to watch
It's embarrassing that a bunch of grown ups don't know the meaning of the word patriot.
The only one who doesn’t understand is you, I asked you what you thought was a patriot and you rambled on about the army and Ghandi then had a hissy fit
Oh really? Then it's your turn. Can you explain what patriotism is? Maybe I can fix my understanding."‘Patriotism is the feeling of love, devotion, and sense of attachment to one's country. This attachment can be a combination of many different feelings, language relating to one's own homeland, including ethnic, cultural, political or historical aspects. It encompasses a set of concepts closely related to nationalism, mostly civic nationalism and sometimes Cultural nationalism’ | |||
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"you haven't explained anything regarding what is a patriot to be fair .... you said something about the army and other vaguery but a patriot to what concept? england, the united kingdom? the monarchy? the church of england? please try to be less vague
You d*unk or stoned? I didn't even use half the words to mentioned. Have a good night.
so you don't know what makes a patriot, so you can't answer, so you get angry about it, so you insult people asking for your explaination. it's not gone well for you here in honesty. shame you are unable to shed any discernable input on the subject as opposed to vaguery.
I insult people when I have given explanation of a word which a kindergarten student can understand while a grown up acts like he couldn't understand.
Tbh, your having a mare, it is embarrassing to watch
It's embarrassing that a bunch of grown ups don't know the meaning of the word patriot.
you appear to be the one freaking out and insulting people because you can't define the concept of a patriot chap
At least I don't imagine posts that were never made. British monarchy "you're being even more vague now. | |||
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"you haven't explained anything regarding what is a patriot to be fair .... you said something about the army and other vaguery but a patriot to what concept? england, the united kingdom? the monarchy? the church of england? please try to be less vague
You d*unk or stoned? I didn't even use half the words to mentioned. Have a good night.
so you don't know what makes a patriot, so you can't answer, so you get angry about it, so you insult people asking for your explaination. it's not gone well for you here in honesty. shame you are unable to shed any discernable input on the subject as opposed to vaguery.
I insult people when I have given explanation of a word which a kindergarten student can understand while a grown up acts like he couldn't understand.
Tbh, your having a mare, it is embarrassing to watch
It's embarrassing that a bunch of grown ups don't know the meaning of the word patriot.
you appear to be the one freaking out and insulting people because you can't define the concept of a patriot chap
At least I don't imagine posts that were never made. British monarchy
you're being even more vague now. "He lost the room when he got offended by the satirical OP  | |||
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"you haven't explained anything regarding what is a patriot to be fair .... you said something about the army and other vaguery but a patriot to what concept? england, the united kingdom? the monarchy? the church of england? please try to be less vague
You d*unk or stoned? I didn't even use half the words to mentioned. Have a good night.
so you don't know what makes a patriot, so you can't answer, so you get angry about it, so you insult people asking for your explaination. it's not gone well for you here in honesty. shame you are unable to shed any discernable input on the subject as opposed to vaguery.
I insult people when I have given explanation of a word which a kindergarten student can understand while a grown up acts like he couldn't understand.
Tbh, your having a mare, it is embarrassing to watch
It's embarrassing that a bunch of grown ups don't know the meaning of the word patriot.
The only one who doesn’t understand is you, I asked you what you thought was a patriot and you rambled on about the army and Ghandi then had a hissy fit
Oh really? Then it's your turn. Can you explain what patriotism is? Maybe I can fix my understanding.
‘Patriotism is the feeling of love, devotion, and sense of attachment to one's country. This attachment can be a combination of many different feelings, language relating to one's own homeland, including ethnic, cultural, political or historical aspects. It encompasses a set of concepts closely related to nationalism, mostly civic nationalism and sometimes
Cultural nationalism’ "You just gave an expanded definition of dictionary definition I gave. So what difference does it make? I used army personnel as examples. Gandhi as an example. Am I wrong with any of those examples? | |||
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"you haven't explained anything regarding what is a patriot to be fair .... you said something about the army and other vaguery but a patriot to what concept? england, the united kingdom? the monarchy? the church of england? please try to be less vague
You d*unk or stoned? I didn't even use half the words to mentioned. Have a good night.
so you don't know what makes a patriot, so you can't answer, so you get angry about it, so you insult people asking for your explaination. it's not gone well for you here in honesty. shame you are unable to shed any discernable input on the subject as opposed to vaguery.
I insult people when I have given explanation of a word which a kindergarten student can understand while a grown up acts like he couldn't understand.
Tbh, your having a mare, it is embarrassing to watch
It's embarrassing that a bunch of grown ups don't know the meaning of the word patriot.
you appear to be the one freaking out and insulting people because you can't define the concept of a patriot chap
At least I don't imagine posts that were never made. British monarchy
you're being even more vague now.
He lost the room when he got offended by the satirical OP "Offended? Not really. Just pointed out the irrational stupidity of the post. The ones who can't handle criticism obviously started rambling here making d*unken posts. | |||
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"you haven't explained anything regarding what is a patriot to be fair .... you said something about the army and other vaguery but a patriot to what concept? england, the united kingdom? the monarchy? the church of england? please try to be less vague
You d*unk or stoned? I didn't even use half the words to mentioned. Have a good night.
so you don't know what makes a patriot, so you can't answer, so you get angry about it, so you insult people asking for your explaination. it's not gone well for you here in honesty. shame you are unable to shed any discernable input on the subject as opposed to vaguery.
I insult people when I have given explanation of a word which a kindergarten student can understand while a grown up acts like he couldn't understand.
Tbh, your having a mare, it is embarrassing to watch
It's embarrassing that a bunch of grown ups don't know the meaning of the word patriot.
The only one who doesn’t understand is you, I asked you what you thought was a patriot and you rambled on about the army and Ghandi then had a hissy fit
Oh really? Then it's your turn. Can you explain what patriotism is? Maybe I can fix my understanding.
‘Patriotism is the feeling of love, devotion, and sense of attachment to one's country. This attachment can be a combination of many different feelings, language relating to one's own homeland, including ethnic, cultural, political or historical aspects. It encompasses a set of concepts closely related to nationalism, mostly civic nationalism and sometimes
Cultural nationalism’
You just gave an expanded definition of dictionary definition I gave. So what difference does it make? I used army personnel as examples. Gandhi as an example. Am I wrong with any of those examples? "So you are saying every person to have ever enlisted fulfills the requirements for patriotism, not one in the history of the country had been coerced, or chickened out when it got real? Who is making blanket statements now? | |||
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"you haven't explained anything regarding what is a patriot to be fair .... you said something about the army and other vaguery but a patriot to what concept? england, the united kingdom? the monarchy? the church of england? please try to be less vague
You d*unk or stoned? I didn't even use half the words to mentioned. Have a good night.
so you don't know what makes a patriot, so you can't answer, so you get angry about it, so you insult people asking for your explaination. it's not gone well for you here in honesty. shame you are unable to shed any discernable input on the subject as opposed to vaguery.
I insult people when I have given explanation of a word which a kindergarten student can understand while a grown up acts like he couldn't understand.
Tbh, your having a mare, it is embarrassing to watch
It's embarrassing that a bunch of grown ups don't know the meaning of the word patriot.
The only one who doesn’t understand is you, I asked you what you thought was a patriot and you rambled on about the army and Ghandi then had a hissy fit
Oh really? Then it's your turn. Can you explain what patriotism is? Maybe I can fix my understanding.
‘Patriotism is the feeling of love, devotion, and sense of attachment to one's country. This attachment can be a combination of many different feelings, language relating to one's own homeland, including ethnic, cultural, political or historical aspects. It encompasses a set of concepts closely related to nationalism, mostly civic nationalism and sometimes
Cultural nationalism’
You just gave an expanded definition of dictionary definition I gave. So what difference does it make? I used army personnel as examples. Gandhi as an example. Am I wrong with any of those examples?
So you are saying every person to have ever enlisted fulfills the requirements for patriotism, not one in the history of the country had been coerced, or chickened out when it got real?
Who is making blanket statements now?"I used army personnel in the current day as an example. I don't think anyone in the country nowadays is coerced. As for chickening out, the fact that they went as for as joining in the first place is patriotism. If things don't work practically, that's fine. | |||
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"I class myself as a Patriot. I’ve no doubt there are those that look sideways at others disapprovingly because of XYZ, but not all Patriots are narrow minded bigots. Of course not, but what is it that makes you a patriot? And do any of the OPs points resonate with you Almost everyone in the army can be classified as patriot. I don't think they are all bigots. What makes a ‘patriot’ Dictionary says - a person who vigorously supports their country and is prepared to defend it against enemies or detractors. People in army are patriots by default. What makes you a patriot? " I’m interested in understanding if you feel you are a patriot or not? What makes you one or the other? | |||
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"you haven't explained anything regarding what is a patriot to be fair .... you said something about the army and other vaguery but a patriot to what concept? england, the united kingdom? the monarchy? the church of england? please try to be less vague
You d*unk or stoned? I didn't even use half the words to mentioned. Have a good night.
so you don't know what makes a patriot, so you can't answer, so you get angry about it, so you insult people asking for your explaination. it's not gone well for you here in honesty. shame you are unable to shed any discernable input on the subject as opposed to vaguery.
I insult people when I have given explanation of a word which a kindergarten student can understand while a grown up acts like he couldn't understand.
Tbh, your having a mare, it is embarrassing to watch
It's embarrassing that a bunch of grown ups don't know the meaning of the word patriot.
you appear to be the one freaking out and insulting people because you can't define the concept of a patriot chap
At least I don't imagine posts that were never made. British monarchy
you're being even more vague now.
He lost the room when he got offended by the satirical OP
Offended? Not really. Just pointed out the irrational stupidity of the post. The ones who can't handle criticism obviously started rambling here making d*unken posts."sorry, i didn't realise you'd been drinking heavily. i will ask you when you've sobered up. in the meantime has anyone else figured out what all that vagueness regarding 'patriot' | |||
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"you haven't explained anything regarding what is a patriot to be fair .... you said something about the army and other vaguery but a patriot to what concept? england, the united kingdom? the monarchy? the church of england? please try to be less vague
You d*unk or stoned? I didn't even use half the words to mentioned. Have a good night.
so you don't know what makes a patriot, so you can't answer, so you get angry about it, so you insult people asking for your explaination. it's not gone well for you here in honesty. shame you are unable to shed any discernable input on the subject as opposed to vaguery.
I insult people when I have given explanation of a word which a kindergarten student can understand while a grown up acts like he couldn't understand.
Tbh, your having a mare, it is embarrassing to watch
It's embarrassing that a bunch of grown ups don't know the meaning of the word patriot.
you appear to be the one freaking out and insulting people because you can't define the concept of a patriot chap
At least I don't imagine posts that were never made. British monarchy
you're being even more vague now.
He lost the room when he got offended by the satirical OP
Offended? Not really. Just pointed out the irrational stupidity of the post. The ones who can't handle criticism obviously started rambling here making d*unken posts.
sorry, i didn't realise you'd been drinking heavily. i will ask you when you've sobered up.
in the meantime has anyone else figured out what all that vagueness regarding 'patriot' "Very clever post | |||
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"you haven't explained anything regarding what is a patriot to be fair .... you said something about the army and other vaguery but a patriot to what concept? england, the united kingdom? the monarchy? the church of england? please try to be less vague
You d*unk or stoned? I didn't even use half the words to mentioned. Have a good night.
so you don't know what makes a patriot, so you can't answer, so you get angry about it, so you insult people asking for your explaination. it's not gone well for you here in honesty. shame you are unable to shed any discernable input on the subject as opposed to vaguery.
I insult people when I have given explanation of a word which a kindergarten student can understand while a grown up acts like he couldn't understand.
Tbh, your having a mare, it is embarrassing to watch
It's embarrassing that a bunch of grown ups don't know the meaning of the word patriot.
you appear to be the one freaking out and insulting people because you can't define the concept of a patriot chap
At least I don't imagine posts that were never made. British monarchy
you're being even more vague now.
He lost the room when he got offended by the satirical OP
Offended? Not really. Just pointed out the irrational stupidity of the post. The ones who can't handle criticism obviously started rambling here making d*unken posts.
sorry, i didn't realise you'd been drinking heavily. i will ask you when you've sobered up.
in the meantime has anyone else figured out what all that vagueness regarding 'patriot' "Do you have anything that would help in clearing up the vagueness? | |||
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"you haven't explained anything regarding what is a patriot to be fair .... you said something about the army and other vaguery but a patriot to what concept? england, the united kingdom? the monarchy? the church of england? please try to be less vague
You d*unk or stoned? I didn't even use half the words to mentioned. Have a good night.
so you don't know what makes a patriot, so you can't answer, so you get angry about it, so you insult people asking for your explaination. it's not gone well for you here in honesty. shame you are unable to shed any discernable input on the subject as opposed to vaguery.
I insult people when I have given explanation of a word which a kindergarten student can understand while a grown up acts like he couldn't understand.
Tbh, your having a mare, it is embarrassing to watch
It's embarrassing that a bunch of grown ups don't know the meaning of the word patriot.
you appear to be the one freaking out and insulting people because you can't define the concept of a patriot chap
At least I don't imagine posts that were never made. British monarchy
you're being even more vague now.
He lost the room when he got offended by the satirical OP
Offended? Not really. Just pointed out the irrational stupidity of the post. The ones who can't handle criticism obviously started rambling here making d*unken posts.
sorry, i didn't realise you'd been drinking heavily. i will ask you when you've sobered up.
in the meantime has anyone else figured out what all that vagueness regarding 'patriot' "I think they are trying to stick to the definition in the dictionary so as to avoid the implication that the Patriot in the Satire isn't about ACTUAL patriotism, but about bigots who claim to be patriots. | |||
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"you haven't explained anything regarding what is a patriot to be fair .... you said something about the army and other vaguery but a patriot to what concept? england, the united kingdom? the monarchy? the church of england? please try to be less vague
You d*unk or stoned? I didn't even use half the words to mentioned. Have a good night.
so you don't know what makes a patriot, so you can't answer, so you get angry about it, so you insult people asking for your explaination. it's not gone well for you here in honesty. shame you are unable to shed any discernable input on the subject as opposed to vaguery.
I insult people when I have given explanation of a word which a kindergarten student can understand while a grown up acts like he couldn't understand.
Tbh, your having a mare, it is embarrassing to watch
It's embarrassing that a bunch of grown ups don't know the meaning of the word patriot.
you appear to be the one freaking out and insulting people because you can't define the concept of a patriot chap
At least I don't imagine posts that were never made. British monarchy
you're being even more vague now.
He lost the room when he got offended by the satirical OP
Offended? Not really. Just pointed out the irrational stupidity of the post. The ones who can't handle criticism obviously started rambling here making d*unken posts.
sorry, i didn't realise you'd been drinking heavily. i will ask you when you've sobered up.
in the meantime has anyone else figured out what all that vagueness regarding 'patriot'
I think they are trying to stick to the definition in the dictionary so as to avoid the implication that the Patriot in the Satire isn't about ACTUAL patriotism, but about bigots who claim to be patriots."So if I modify the post and replace patriot with any other group of people, it would be fine and you wouldn't consider it as blanket generalisation? | |||
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"you haven't explained anything regarding what is a patriot to be fair .... you said something about the army and other vaguery but a patriot to what concept? england, the united kingdom? the monarchy? the church of england? please try to be less vague
You d*unk or stoned? I didn't even use half the words to mentioned. Have a good night.
so you don't know what makes a patriot, so you can't answer, so you get angry about it, so you insult people asking for your explaination. it's not gone well for you here in honesty. shame you are unable to shed any discernable input on the subject as opposed to vaguery.
I insult people when I have given explanation of a word which a kindergarten student can understand while a grown up acts like he couldn't understand.
Tbh, your having a mare, it is embarrassing to watch
It's embarrassing that a bunch of grown ups don't know the meaning of the word patriot.
you appear to be the one freaking out and insulting people because you can't define the concept of a patriot chap
At least I don't imagine posts that were never made. British monarchy
you're being even more vague now.
He lost the room when he got offended by the satirical OP
Offended? Not really. Just pointed out the irrational stupidity of the post. The ones who can't handle criticism obviously started rambling here making d*unken posts.
sorry, i didn't realise you'd been drinking heavily. i will ask you when you've sobered up.
in the meantime has anyone else figured out what all that vagueness regarding 'patriot'
Do you have anything that would help in clearing up the vagueness? "other than pointing out how vague it all is, not really. you saying you have the answers? because the other guy thought he did and just appeared to loose his mind completely, then go on to have a complete meltdown when he found he didn't have a scooby doo | |||
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"you haven't explained anything regarding what is a patriot to be fair .... you said something about the army and other vaguery but a patriot to what concept? england, the united kingdom? the monarchy? the church of england? please try to be less vague
You d*unk or stoned? I didn't even use half the words to mentioned. Have a good night.
so you don't know what makes a patriot, so you can't answer, so you get angry about it, so you insult people asking for your explaination. it's not gone well for you here in honesty. shame you are unable to shed any discernable input on the subject as opposed to vaguery.
I insult people when I have given explanation of a word which a kindergarten student can understand while a grown up acts like he couldn't understand.
Tbh, your having a mare, it is embarrassing to watch
It's embarrassing that a bunch of grown ups don't know the meaning of the word patriot.
you appear to be the one freaking out and insulting people because you can't define the concept of a patriot chap
At least I don't imagine posts that were never made. British monarchy
you're being even more vague now.
He lost the room when he got offended by the satirical OP
Offended? Not really. Just pointed out the irrational stupidity of the post. The ones who can't handle criticism obviously started rambling here making d*unken posts.
sorry, i didn't realise you'd been drinking heavily. i will ask you when you've sobered up.
in the meantime has anyone else figured out what all that vagueness regarding 'patriot'
I think they are trying to stick to the definition in the dictionary so as to avoid the implication that the Patriot in the Satire isn't about ACTUAL patriotism, but about bigots who claim to be patriots.
So if I modify the post and replace patriot with any other group of people, it would be fine and you wouldn't consider it as blanket generalisation?"Give it a try, let’s see how that works out | |||
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"you haven't explained anything regarding what is a patriot to be fair .... you said something about the army and other vaguery but a patriot to what concept? england, the united kingdom? the monarchy? the church of england? please try to be less vague
You d*unk or stoned? I didn't even use half the words to mentioned. Have a good night.
so you don't know what makes a patriot, so you can't answer, so you get angry about it, so you insult people asking for your explaination. it's not gone well for you here in honesty. shame you are unable to shed any discernable input on the subject as opposed to vaguery.
I insult people when I have given explanation of a word which a kindergarten student can understand while a grown up acts like he couldn't understand.
Tbh, your having a mare, it is embarrassing to watch
It's embarrassing that a bunch of grown ups don't know the meaning of the word patriot.
you appear to be the one freaking out and insulting people because you can't define the concept of a patriot chap
At least I don't imagine posts that were never made. British monarchy
you're being even more vague now.
He lost the room when he got offended by the satirical OP
Offended? Not really. Just pointed out the irrational stupidity of the post. The ones who can't handle criticism obviously started rambling here making d*unken posts.
sorry, i didn't realise you'd been drinking heavily. i will ask you when you've sobered up.
in the meantime has anyone else figured out what all that vagueness regarding 'patriot'
I think they are trying to stick to the definition in the dictionary so as to avoid the implication that the Patriot in the Satire isn't about ACTUAL patriotism, but about bigots who claim to be patriots.
So if I modify the post and replace patriot with any other group of people, it would be fine and you wouldn't consider it as blanket generalisation?
Give it a try, let’s see how that works out "well at least it couldn't be more vague .... it could only be as vague | |||
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"you haven't explained anything regarding what is a patriot to be fair .... you said something about the army and other vaguery but a patriot to what concept? england, the united kingdom? the monarchy? the church of england? please try to be less vague
You d*unk or stoned? I didn't even use half the words to mentioned. Have a good night.
so you don't know what makes a patriot, so you can't answer, so you get angry about it, so you insult people asking for your explaination. it's not gone well for you here in honesty. shame you are unable to shed any discernable input on the subject as opposed to vaguery.
I insult people when I have given explanation of a word which a kindergarten student can understand while a grown up acts like he couldn't understand.
Tbh, your having a mare, it is embarrassing to watch
It's embarrassing that a bunch of grown ups don't know the meaning of the word patriot.
you appear to be the one freaking out and insulting people because you can't define the concept of a patriot chap
At least I don't imagine posts that were never made. British monarchy
you're being even more vague now.
He lost the room when he got offended by the satirical OP
Offended? Not really. Just pointed out the irrational stupidity of the post. The ones who can't handle criticism obviously started rambling here making d*unken posts.
sorry, i didn't realise you'd been drinking heavily. i will ask you when you've sobered up.
in the meantime has anyone else figured out what all that vagueness regarding 'patriot'
I think they are trying to stick to the definition in the dictionary so as to avoid the implication that the Patriot in the Satire isn't about ACTUAL patriotism, but about bigots who claim to be patriots.
So if I modify the post and replace patriot with any other group of people, it would be fine and you wouldn't consider it as blanket generalisation?"Did you miss the sentence "about bigots who claim to be patriots." | |||
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"you haven't explained anything regarding what is a patriot to be fair .... you said something about the army and other vaguery but a patriot to what concept? england, the united kingdom? the monarchy? the church of england? please try to be less vague
You d*unk or stoned? I didn't even use half the words to mentioned. Have a good night.
so you don't know what makes a patriot, so you can't answer, so you get angry about it, so you insult people asking for your explaination. it's not gone well for you here in honesty. shame you are unable to shed any discernable input on the subject as opposed to vaguery.
I insult people when I have given explanation of a word which a kindergarten student can understand while a grown up acts like he couldn't understand.
Tbh, your having a mare, it is embarrassing to watch
It's embarrassing that a bunch of grown ups don't know the meaning of the word patriot.
you appear to be the one freaking out and insulting people because you can't define the concept of a patriot chap
At least I don't imagine posts that were never made. British monarchy
you're being even more vague now.
He lost the room when he got offended by the satirical OP
Offended? Not really. Just pointed out the irrational stupidity of the post. The ones who can't handle criticism obviously started rambling here making d*unken posts.
sorry, i didn't realise you'd been drinking heavily. i will ask you when you've sobered up.
in the meantime has anyone else figured out what all that vagueness regarding 'patriot'
Do you have anything that would help in clearing up the vagueness?
other than pointing out how vague it all is, not really. you saying you have the answers? because the other guy thought he did and just appeared to loose his mind completely, then go on to have a complete meltdown when he found he didn't have a scooby doo "Of course I don’t, a patriot and being patriotic applies to beliefs, and you know it. Bear baiting can go on forever especially in packs | |||
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"you haven't explained anything regarding what is a patriot to be fair .... you said something about the army and other vaguery but a patriot to what concept? england, the united kingdom? the monarchy? the church of england? please try to be less vague
You d*unk or stoned? I didn't even use half the words to mentioned. Have a good night.
so you don't know what makes a patriot, so you can't answer, so you get angry about it, so you insult people asking for your explaination. it's not gone well for you here in honesty. shame you are unable to shed any discernable input on the subject as opposed to vaguery.
I insult people when I have given explanation of a word which a kindergarten student can understand while a grown up acts like he couldn't understand.
Tbh, your having a mare, it is embarrassing to watch
It's embarrassing that a bunch of grown ups don't know the meaning of the word patriot.
you appear to be the one freaking out and insulting people because you can't define the concept of a patriot chap
At least I don't imagine posts that were never made. British monarchy
you're being even more vague now.
He lost the room when he got offended by the satirical OP
Offended? Not really. Just pointed out the irrational stupidity of the post. The ones who can't handle criticism obviously started rambling here making d*unken posts.
sorry, i didn't realise you'd been drinking heavily. i will ask you when you've sobered up.
in the meantime has anyone else figured out what all that vagueness regarding 'patriot'
I think they are trying to stick to the definition in the dictionary so as to avoid the implication that the Patriot in the Satire isn't about ACTUAL patriotism, but about bigots who claim to be patriots.
So if I modify the post and replace patriot with any other group of people, it would be fine and you wouldn't consider it as blanket generalisation?
Did you miss the sentence
"about bigots who claim to be patriots.""There are some trans activists who are violent and indulged in vandalism. Can I rephrase the satire and tell you that it's about "violent people who claim to be trans activists"? Would you agree with my excuse? | |||
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"you haven't explained anything regarding what is a patriot to be fair .... you said something about the army and other vaguery but a patriot to what concept? england, the united kingdom? the monarchy? the church of england? please try to be less vague
You d*unk or stoned? I didn't even use half the words to mentioned. Have a good night.
so you don't know what makes a patriot, so you can't answer, so you get angry about it, so you insult people asking for your explaination. it's not gone well for you here in honesty. shame you are unable to shed any discernable input on the subject as opposed to vaguery.
I insult people when I have given explanation of a word which a kindergarten student can understand while a grown up acts like he couldn't understand.
Tbh, your having a mare, it is embarrassing to watch
It's embarrassing that a bunch of grown ups don't know the meaning of the word patriot.
you appear to be the one freaking out and insulting people because you can't define the concept of a patriot chap
At least I don't imagine posts that were never made. British monarchy
you're being even more vague now.
He lost the room when he got offended by the satirical OP
Offended? Not really. Just pointed out the irrational stupidity of the post. The ones who can't handle criticism obviously started rambling here making d*unken posts.
sorry, i didn't realise you'd been drinking heavily. i will ask you when you've sobered up.
in the meantime has anyone else figured out what all that vagueness regarding 'patriot'
I think they are trying to stick to the definition in the dictionary so as to avoid the implication that the Patriot in the Satire isn't about ACTUAL patriotism, but about bigots who claim to be patriots.
So if I modify the post and replace patriot with any other group of people, it would be fine and you wouldn't consider it as blanket generalisation?
Did you miss the sentence
"about bigots who claim to be patriots."
There are some trans activists who are violent and indulged in vandalism. Can I rephrase the satire and tell you that it's about "violent people who claim to be trans activists"? Would you agree with my excuse?"I think your going to need a bigger shovel | |||
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"you haven't explained anything regarding what is a patriot to be fair .... you said something about the army and other vaguery but a patriot to what concept? england, the united kingdom? the monarchy? the church of england? please try to be less vague
You d*unk or stoned? I didn't even use half the words to mentioned. Have a good night.
so you don't know what makes a patriot, so you can't answer, so you get angry about it, so you insult people asking for your explaination. it's not gone well for you here in honesty. shame you are unable to shed any discernable input on the subject as opposed to vaguery.
I insult people when I have given explanation of a word which a kindergarten student can understand while a grown up acts like he couldn't understand.
Tbh, your having a mare, it is embarrassing to watch
It's embarrassing that a bunch of grown ups don't know the meaning of the word patriot.
you appear to be the one freaking out and insulting people because you can't define the concept of a patriot chap
At least I don't imagine posts that were never made. British monarchy
you're being even more vague now.
He lost the room when he got offended by the satirical OP
Offended? Not really. Just pointed out the irrational stupidity of the post. The ones who can't handle criticism obviously started rambling here making d*unken posts.
sorry, i didn't realise you'd been drinking heavily. i will ask you when you've sobered up.
in the meantime has anyone else figured out what all that vagueness regarding 'patriot'
I think they are trying to stick to the definition in the dictionary so as to avoid the implication that the Patriot in the Satire isn't about ACTUAL patriotism, but about bigots who claim to be patriots.
So if I modify the post and replace patriot with any other group of people, it would be fine and you wouldn't consider it as blanket generalisation?
Did you miss the sentence
"about bigots who claim to be patriots."
There are some trans activists who are violent and indulged in vandalism. Can I rephrase the satire and tell you that it's about "violent people who claim to be trans activists"? Would you agree with my excuse?
I think your going to need a bigger shovel "Yeah this is your usual reaction when you have no answer. Making an incoherent statement completely unrelated to the post. | |||
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"you haven't explained anything regarding what is a patriot to be fair .... you said something about the army and other vaguery but a patriot to what concept? england, the united kingdom? the monarchy? the church of england? please try to be less vague
You d*unk or stoned? I didn't even use half the words to mentioned. Have a good night.
so you don't know what makes a patriot, so you can't answer, so you get angry about it, so you insult people asking for your explaination. it's not gone well for you here in honesty. shame you are unable to shed any discernable input on the subject as opposed to vaguery.
I insult people when I have given explanation of a word which a kindergarten student can understand while a grown up acts like he couldn't understand.
Tbh, your having a mare, it is embarrassing to watch
It's embarrassing that a bunch of grown ups don't know the meaning of the word patriot.
you appear to be the one freaking out and insulting people because you can't define the concept of a patriot chap
At least I don't imagine posts that were never made. British monarchy
you're being even more vague now.
He lost the room when he got offended by the satirical OP
Offended? Not really. Just pointed out the irrational stupidity of the post. The ones who can't handle criticism obviously started rambling here making d*unken posts.
sorry, i didn't realise you'd been drinking heavily. i will ask you when you've sobered up.
in the meantime has anyone else figured out what all that vagueness regarding 'patriot'
I think they are trying to stick to the definition in the dictionary so as to avoid the implication that the Patriot in the Satire isn't about ACTUAL patriotism, but about bigots who claim to be patriots.
So if I modify the post and replace patriot with any other group of people, it would be fine and you wouldn't consider it as blanket generalisation?
Did you miss the sentence
"about bigots who claim to be patriots."
There are some trans activists who are violent and indulged in vandalism. Can I rephrase the satire and tell you that it's about "violent people who claim to be trans activists"? Would you agree with my excuse?
I think your going to need a bigger shovel
Yeah this is your usual reaction when you have no answer. Making an incoherent statement completely unrelated to the post."PMSL, there are two things you need to learn 1 the meaning of satire 2 the meaning of patriotism This will help you with your confusion and your anger | |||
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"There are some trans activists who are violent and indulged in vandalism. Can I rephrase the satire and tell you that it's about "violent people who claim to be trans activists"? Would you agree with my excuse? Congratulations on completely losing the argument. Looks like you are the one who doesn't have an answer. I don't need one you built a straw man on an ad Hominem No. Looks more like hypocrisy from your part. Well you have already proven your observational skills and comprehension are lacking." You made an original post full of ad hominem. When I said I can replace patriotism with some other group, that's when you realised it is ad hominem. If anything, I am just helping you with your own comprehension skills. | |||
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"There are some trans activists who are violent and indulged in vandalism. Can I rephrase the satire and tell you that it's about "violent people who claim to be trans activists"? Would you agree with my excuse? Congratulations on completely losing the argument. Looks like you are the one who doesn't have an answer. I don't need one you built a straw man on an ad Hominem No. Looks more like hypocrisy from your part. Well you have already proven your observational skills and comprehension are lacking. You made an original post full of ad hominem. When I said I can replace patriotism with some other group, that's when you realised it is ad hominem. If anything, I am just helping you with your own comprehension skills." All you did there was prove you don't know what ad hominem is. | |||
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"you haven't explained anything regarding what is a patriot to be fair .... you said something about the army and other vaguery but a patriot to what concept? england, the united kingdom? the monarchy? the church of england? please try to be less vague
You d*unk or stoned? I didn't even use half the words to mentioned. Have a good night.
so you don't know what makes a patriot, so you can't answer, so you get angry about it, so you insult people asking for your explaination. it's not gone well for you here in honesty. shame you are unable to shed any discernable input on the subject as opposed to vaguery.
I insult people when I have given explanation of a word which a kindergarten student can understand while a grown up acts like he couldn't understand.
Tbh, your having a mare, it is embarrassing to watch
It's embarrassing that a bunch of grown ups don't know the meaning of the word patriot.
you appear to be the one freaking out and insulting people because you can't define the concept of a patriot chap
At least I don't imagine posts that were never made. British monarchy
you're being even more vague now.
He lost the room when he got offended by the satirical OP
Offended? Not really. Just pointed out the irrational stupidity of the post. The ones who can't handle criticism obviously started rambling here making d*unken posts.
sorry, i didn't realise you'd been drinking heavily. i will ask you when you've sobered up.
in the meantime has anyone else figured out what all that vagueness regarding 'patriot'
I think they are trying to stick to the definition in the dictionary so as to avoid the implication that the Patriot in the Satire isn't about ACTUAL patriotism, but about bigots who claim to be patriots.
So if I modify the post and replace patriot with any other group of people, it would be fine and you wouldn't consider it as blanket generalisation?
Did you miss the sentence
"about bigots who claim to be patriots."
There are some trans activists who are violent and indulged in vandalism. Can I rephrase the satire and tell you that it's about "violent people who claim to be trans activists"? Would you agree with my excuse?
I think your going to need a bigger shovel
Yeah this is your usual reaction when you have no answer. Making an incoherent statement completely unrelated to the post.
PMSL, there are two things you need to learn
1 the meaning of satire
2 the meaning of patriotism
This will help you with your confusion and your anger
"I am neither confused nor angry. It's always fun to debate people who call themselves liberals these days get into an argument without any clue about a topic, losing the plot and then resort to such silly tactics | |||
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"There are some trans activists who are violent and indulged in vandalism. Can I rephrase the satire and tell you that it's about "violent people who claim to be trans activists"? Would you agree with my excuse? Congratulations on completely losing the argument. Looks like you are the one who doesn't have an answer. I don't need one you built a straw man on an ad Hominem No. Looks more like hypocrisy from your part. Well you have already proven your observational skills and comprehension are lacking. You made an original post full of ad hominem. When I said I can replace patriotism with some other group, that's when you realised it is ad hominem. If anything, I am just helping you with your own comprehension skills. All you did there was prove you don't know what ad hominem is. " 3 he needs to learn the meaning of ad hominem | |||
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"you haven't explained anything regarding what is a patriot to be fair .... you said something about the army and other vaguery but a patriot to what concept? england, the united kingdom? the monarchy? the church of england? please try to be less vague
You d*unk or stoned? I didn't even use half the words to mentioned. Have a good night.
so you don't know what makes a patriot, so you can't answer, so you get angry about it, so you insult people asking for your explaination. it's not gone well for you here in honesty. shame you are unable to shed any discernable input on the subject as opposed to vaguery.
I insult people when I have given explanation of a word which a kindergarten student can understand while a grown up acts like he couldn't understand.
Tbh, your having a mare, it is embarrassing to watch
It's embarrassing that a bunch of grown ups don't know the meaning of the word patriot.
you appear to be the one freaking out and insulting people because you can't define the concept of a patriot chap
At least I don't imagine posts that were never made. British monarchy
you're being even more vague now.
He lost the room when he got offended by the satirical OP
Offended? Not really. Just pointed out the irrational stupidity of the post. The ones who can't handle criticism obviously started rambling here making d*unken posts.
sorry, i didn't realise you'd been drinking heavily. i will ask you when you've sobered up.
in the meantime has anyone else figured out what all that vagueness regarding 'patriot'
I think they are trying to stick to the definition in the dictionary so as to avoid the implication that the Patriot in the Satire isn't about ACTUAL patriotism, but about bigots who claim to be patriots.
So if I modify the post and replace patriot with any other group of people, it would be fine and you wouldn't consider it as blanket generalisation?
Did you miss the sentence
"about bigots who claim to be patriots."
There are some trans activists who are violent and indulged in vandalism. Can I rephrase the satire and tell you that it's about "violent people who claim to be trans activists"? Would you agree with my excuse?
I think your going to need a bigger shovel
Yeah this is your usual reaction when you have no answer. Making an incoherent statement completely unrelated to the post.
PMSL, there are two things you need to learn
1 the meaning of satire
2 the meaning of patriotism
This will help you with your confusion and your anger
I am neither confused nor angry. It's always fun to debate people who call themselves liberals these days get into an argument without any clue about a topic, losing the plot and then resort to such silly tactics "It’s nearly bed time, chill and stop getting excited about a satirical post aimed at bigots, | |||
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"There are some trans activists who are violent and indulged in vandalism. Can I rephrase the satire and tell you that it's about "violent people who claim to be trans activists"? Would you agree with my excuse? Congratulations on completely losing the argument. Looks like you are the one who doesn't have an answer. I don't need one you built a straw man on an ad Hominem No. Looks more like hypocrisy from your part. Well you have already proven your observational skills and comprehension are lacking. You made an original post full of ad hominem. When I said I can replace patriotism with some other group, that's when you realised it is ad hominem. If anything, I am just helping you with your own comprehension skills. All you did there was prove you don't know what ad hominem is. 3 he needs to learn the meaning of ad hominem " no that's 4 .... 3 is be less vague | |||
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"I am neither confused nor angry. It's always fun to debate people who call themselves liberals these days get into an argument without any clue about a topic, losing the plot and then resort to such silly tactics
oooh oooh he declared a disdain for liberals... we may have a "Patriot""Not long now until we hear the words , woke and snowflakes | |||
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"There are some trans activists who are violent and indulged in vandalism. Can I rephrase the satire and tell you that it's about "violent people who claim to be trans activists"? Would you agree with my excuse? Congratulations on completely losing the argument. Looks like you are the one who doesn't have an answer. I don't need one you built a straw man on an ad Hominem No. Looks more like hypocrisy from your part. Well you have already proven your observational skills and comprehension are lacking. You made an original post full of ad hominem. When I said I can replace patriotism with some other group, that's when you realised it is ad hominem. If anything, I am just helping you with your own comprehension skills. All you did there was prove you don't know what ad hominem is. 3 he needs to learn the meaning of ad hominem no that's 4 .... 3 is be less vague "Yes, that’s 4, I am sure 5 will be along soon. | |||
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"I am neither confused nor angry. It's always fun to debate people who call themselves liberals these days get into an argument without any clue about a topic, losing the plot and then resort to such silly tactics
oooh oooh he declared a disdain for liberals... we may have a "Patriot"
Not long now until we hear the words , woke and snowflakes "or words that are vaguely similar | |||
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"I am neither confused nor angry. It's always fun to debate people who call themselves liberals these days get into an argument without any clue about a topic, losing the plot and then resort to such silly tactics
oooh oooh he declared a disdain for liberals... we may have a "Patriot""People who call themselves liberals. Not the actual liberals. But anyway will give you 1/10 for your sense of humour. | |||
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"There are some trans activists who are violent and indulged in vandalism. Can I rephrase the satire and tell you that it's about "violent people who claim to be trans activists"? Would you agree with my excuse? Congratulations on completely losing the argument. Looks like you are the one who doesn't have an answer. I don't need one you built a straw man on an ad Hominem No. Looks more like hypocrisy from your part. " Stop biting! Look at the op and are you any of those things? If the answer is yes, you’re going to be a 1960’s old school patriot, with all the baggage that comes with 60 years later. If the answer is no, you’ve moved on, yet can still be a patriot but to others your patriotism is misguided . However, let me point out, there is no wrong or right answer! The ball is in your court | |||
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"I am neither confused nor angry. It's always fun to debate people who call themselves liberals these days get into an argument without any clue about a topic, losing the plot and then resort to such silly tactics
oooh oooh he declared a disdain for liberals... we may have a "Patriot"
People who call themselves liberals. Not the actual liberals. But anyway will give you 1/10 for your sense of humour. "so you can tell the difference between people who claim to be liberals and actual liberals but cannot tell the difference between people who claim to be patriots and actual patriots? | |||
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"you haven't explained anything regarding what is a patriot to be fair .... you said something about the army and other vaguery but a patriot to what concept? england, the united kingdom? the monarchy? the church of england? please try to be less vague
You d*unk or stoned? I didn't even use half the words to mentioned. Have a good night.
so you don't know what makes a patriot, so you can't answer, so you get angry about it, so you insult people asking for your explaination. it's not gone well for you here in honesty. shame you are unable to shed any discernable input on the subject as opposed to vaguery.
I insult people when I have given explanation of a word which a kindergarten student can understand while a grown up acts like he couldn't understand.
Tbh, your having a mare, it is embarrassing to watch
It's embarrassing that a bunch of grown ups don't know the meaning of the word patriot.
you appear to be the one freaking out and insulting people because you can't define the concept of a patriot chap
At least I don't imagine posts that were never made. British monarchy
you're being even more vague now.
He lost the room when he got offended by the satirical OP
Offended? Not really. Just pointed out the irrational stupidity of the post. The ones who can't handle criticism obviously started rambling here making d*unken posts.
sorry, i didn't realise you'd been drinking heavily. i will ask you when you've sobered up.
in the meantime has anyone else figured out what all that vagueness regarding 'patriot'
I think they are trying to stick to the definition in the dictionary so as to avoid the implication that the Patriot in the Satire isn't about ACTUAL patriotism, but about bigots who claim to be patriots.
So if I modify the post and replace patriot with any other group of people, it would be fine and you wouldn't consider it as blanket generalisation?
Did you miss the sentence
"about bigots who claim to be patriots."
There are some trans activists who are violent and indulged in vandalism. Can I rephrase the satire and tell you that it's about "violent people who claim to be trans activists"? Would you agree with my excuse?
I think your going to need a bigger shovel
Yeah this is your usual reaction when you have no answer. Making an incoherent statement completely unrelated to the post.
PMSL, there are two things you need to learn
1 the meaning of satire
2 the meaning of patriotism
This will help you with your confusion and your anger
I am neither confused nor angry. It's always fun to debate people who call themselves liberals these days get into an argument without any clue about a topic, losing the plot and then resort to such silly tactics
It’s nearly bed time, chill and stop getting excited about a satirical post aimed at bigots, "Actually excited that I found adults who don't know the meaning of a not so hard English word. Have you tried reading Wren and Martin? | |||
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"Paraphrased from a 60's satirical magazine... See the Patriot. Hear him preach how he loves his country. Hear him preach how much he hates "Liberals"... And "Moderates"... and "Intellectuals"... And "Minority Groups"... and "Immigrants"... And "Unions"... and "Teenagers"... And the "Very Rich"... and the "Very Poor"... And "People with Foreign-Sounding Names". Now you know what a Patriot is. He's someone who loves his country, While hating 93% of the people who live there." Every Tory I know. | |||
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"I am neither confused nor angry. It's always fun to debate people who call themselves liberals these days get into an argument without any clue about a topic, losing the plot and then resort to such silly tactics
oooh oooh he declared a disdain for liberals... we may have a "Patriot"
People who call themselves liberals. Not the actual liberals. But anyway will give you 1/10 for your sense of humour.
so you can tell the difference between people who claim to be liberals and actual liberals
but cannot tell the difference between people who claim to be patriots and actual patriots?"But the original post didn't say it's about people who claim to be patriots. If that is what it meant, I don't know why you won't be fine with replacing it with trans activists because the satire would just be about people who claim to be trans activists. | |||
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"you haven't explained anything regarding what is a patriot to be fair .... you said something about the army and other vaguery but a patriot to what concept? england, the united kingdom? the monarchy? the church of england? please try to be less vague
You d*unk or stoned? I didn't even use half the words to mentioned. Have a good night.
so you don't know what makes a patriot, so you can't answer, so you get angry about it, so you insult people asking for your explaination. it's not gone well for you here in honesty. shame you are unable to shed any discernable input on the subject as opposed to vaguery.
I insult people when I have given explanation of a word which a kindergarten student can understand while a grown up acts like he couldn't understand.
Tbh, your having a mare, it is embarrassing to watch
It's embarrassing that a bunch of grown ups don't know the meaning of the word patriot.
you appear to be the one freaking out and insulting people because you can't define the concept of a patriot chap
At least I don't imagine posts that were never made. British monarchy
you're being even more vague now.
He lost the room when he got offended by the satirical OP
Offended? Not really. Just pointed out the irrational stupidity of the post. The ones who can't handle criticism obviously started rambling here making d*unken posts.
sorry, i didn't realise you'd been drinking heavily. i will ask you when you've sobered up.
in the meantime has anyone else figured out what all that vagueness regarding 'patriot'
I think they are trying to stick to the definition in the dictionary so as to avoid the implication that the Patriot in the Satire isn't about ACTUAL patriotism, but about bigots who claim to be patriots.
So if I modify the post and replace patriot with any other group of people, it would be fine and you wouldn't consider it as blanket generalisation?
Did you miss the sentence
"about bigots who claim to be patriots."
There are some trans activists who are violent and indulged in vandalism. Can I rephrase the satire and tell you that it's about "violent people who claim to be trans activists"? Would you agree with my excuse?
I think your going to need a bigger shovel
Yeah this is your usual reaction when you have no answer. Making an incoherent statement completely unrelated to the post.
PMSL, there are two things you need to learn
1 the meaning of satire
2 the meaning of patriotism
This will help you with your confusion and your anger
I am neither confused nor angry. It's always fun to debate people who call themselves liberals these days get into an argument without any clue about a topic, losing the plot and then resort to such silly tactics
It’s nearly bed time, chill and stop getting excited about a satirical post aimed at bigots,
Actually excited that I found adults who don't know the meaning of a not so hard English word. Have you tried reading Wren and Martin?"No , I left high school years ago, is that the level your still at | |||
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"I am neither confused nor angry. It's always fun to debate people who call themselves liberals these days get into an argument without any clue about a topic, losing the plot and then resort to such silly tactics
oooh oooh he declared a disdain for liberals... we may have a "Patriot"
People who call themselves liberals. Not the actual liberals. But anyway will give you 1/10 for your sense of humour.
so you can tell the difference between people who claim to be liberals and actual liberals
but cannot tell the difference between people who claim to be patriots and actual patriots?
But the original post didn't say it's about people who claim to be patriots. If that is what it meant, I don't know why you won't be fine with replacing it with trans activists because the satire would just be about people who claim to be trans activists."Keep digging, | |||
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"I am neither confused nor angry. It's always fun to debate people who call themselves liberals these days get into an argument without any clue about a topic, losing the plot and then resort to such silly tactics
oooh oooh he declared a disdain for liberals... we may have a "Patriot"
People who call themselves liberals. Not the actual liberals. But anyway will give you 1/10 for your sense of humour.
so you can tell the difference between people who claim to be liberals and actual liberals
but cannot tell the difference between people who claim to be patriots and actual patriots?
But the original post didn't say it's about people who claim to be patriots. If that is what it meant, I don't know why you won't be fine with replacing it with trans activists because the satire would just be about people who claim to be trans activists."again with the ad hominem... why trans activists, if not for me being a Trans woman? | |||
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"I am neither confused nor angry. It's always fun to debate people who call themselves liberals these days get into an argument without any clue about a topic, losing the plot and then resort to such silly tactics
oooh oooh he declared a disdain for liberals... we may have a "Patriot"
People who call themselves liberals. Not the actual liberals. But anyway will give you 1/10 for your sense of humour.
so you can tell the difference between people who claim to be liberals and actual liberals
but cannot tell the difference between people who claim to be patriots and actual patriots?"What is your personal definition of a "Patriot"? Be so inclined to devuldge your interpretation. | |||
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"you haven't explained anything regarding what is a patriot to be fair .... you said something about the army and other vaguery but a patriot to what concept? england, the united kingdom? the monarchy? the church of england? please try to be less vague
You d*unk or stoned? I didn't even use half the words to mentioned. Have a good night.
so you don't know what makes a patriot, so you can't answer, so you get angry about it, so you insult people asking for your explaination. it's not gone well for you here in honesty. shame you are unable to shed any discernable input on the subject as opposed to vaguery.
I insult people when I have given explanation of a word which a kindergarten student can understand while a grown up acts like he couldn't understand.
Tbh, your having a mare, it is embarrassing to watch
It's embarrassing that a bunch of grown ups don't know the meaning of the word patriot.
you appear to be the one freaking out and insulting people because you can't define the concept of a patriot chap
At least I don't imagine posts that were never made. British monarchy
you're being even more vague now.
He lost the room when he got offended by the satirical OP
Offended? Not really. Just pointed out the irrational stupidity of the post. The ones who can't handle criticism obviously started rambling here making d*unken posts.
sorry, i didn't realise you'd been drinking heavily. i will ask you when you've sobered up.
in the meantime has anyone else figured out what all that vagueness regarding 'patriot'
I think they are trying to stick to the definition in the dictionary so as to avoid the implication that the Patriot in the Satire isn't about ACTUAL patriotism, but about bigots who claim to be patriots.
So if I modify the post and replace patriot with any other group of people, it would be fine and you wouldn't consider it as blanket generalisation?
Did you miss the sentence
"about bigots who claim to be patriots."
There are some trans activists who are violent and indulged in vandalism. Can I rephrase the satire and tell you that it's about "violent people who claim to be trans activists"? Would you agree with my excuse?
I think your going to need a bigger shovel
Yeah this is your usual reaction when you have no answer. Making an incoherent statement completely unrelated to the post.
PMSL, there are two things you need to learn
1 the meaning of satire
2 the meaning of patriotism
This will help you with your confusion and your anger
I am neither confused nor angry. It's always fun to debate people who call themselves liberals these days get into an argument without any clue about a topic, losing the plot and then resort to such silly tactics
It’s nearly bed time, chill and stop getting excited about a satirical post aimed at bigots,
Actually excited that I found adults who don't know the meaning of a not so hard English word. Have you tried reading Wren and Martin?
No , I left high school years ago, is that the level your still at "I left at the same time. But I actually went further with education. The thing is you need to stay in touch with studies. If not, you will forget. | |||
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"you haven't explained anything regarding what is a patriot to be fair .... you said something about the army and other vaguery but a patriot to what concept? england, the united kingdom? the monarchy? the church of england? please try to be less vague
You d*unk or stoned? I didn't even use half the words to mentioned. Have a good night.
so you don't know what makes a patriot, so you can't answer, so you get angry about it, so you insult people asking for your explaination. it's not gone well for you here in honesty. shame you are unable to shed any discernable input on the subject as opposed to vaguery.
I insult people when I have given explanation of a word which a kindergarten student can understand while a grown up acts like he couldn't understand.
Tbh, your having a mare, it is embarrassing to watch
It's embarrassing that a bunch of grown ups don't know the meaning of the word patriot.
you appear to be the one freaking out and insulting people because you can't define the concept of a patriot chap
At least I don't imagine posts that were never made. British monarchy
you're being even more vague now.
He lost the room when he got offended by the satirical OP
Offended? Not really. Just pointed out the irrational stupidity of the post. The ones who can't handle criticism obviously started rambling here making d*unken posts.
sorry, i didn't realise you'd been drinking heavily. i will ask you when you've sobered up.
in the meantime has anyone else figured out what all that vagueness regarding 'patriot'
I think they are trying to stick to the definition in the dictionary so as to avoid the implication that the Patriot in the Satire isn't about ACTUAL patriotism, but about bigots who claim to be patriots.
So if I modify the post and replace patriot with any other group of people, it would be fine and you wouldn't consider it as blanket generalisation?
Did you miss the sentence
"about bigots who claim to be patriots."
There are some trans activists who are violent and indulged in vandalism. Can I rephrase the satire and tell you that it's about "violent people who claim to be trans activists"? Would you agree with my excuse?
I think your going to need a bigger shovel
Yeah this is your usual reaction when you have no answer. Making an incoherent statement completely unrelated to the post.
PMSL, there are two things you need to learn
1 the meaning of satire
2 the meaning of patriotism
This will help you with your confusion and your anger
I am neither confused nor angry. It's always fun to debate people who call themselves liberals these days get into an argument without any clue about a topic, losing the plot and then resort to such silly tactics
It’s nearly bed time, chill and stop getting excited about a satirical post aimed at bigots,
Actually excited that I found adults who don't know the meaning of a not so hard English word. Have you tried reading Wren and Martin?
No , I left high school years ago, is that the level your still at
I left at the same time. But I actually went further with education. The thing is you need to stay in touch with studies. If not, you will forget."‘Stay in touch with studies’, your being vague again | |||
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"I am neither confused nor angry. It's always fun to debate people who call themselves liberals these days get into an argument without any clue about a topic, losing the plot and then resort to such silly tactics
oooh oooh he declared a disdain for liberals... we may have a "Patriot"
People who call themselves liberals. Not the actual liberals. But anyway will give you 1/10 for your sense of humour.
so you can tell the difference between people who claim to be liberals and actual liberals
but cannot tell the difference between people who claim to be patriots and actual patriots?
What is your personal definition of a "Patriot"? Be so inclined to devuldge your interpretation."My definition doesn't matter because the post isn't about ACTUAL patriotism. it is about people whole cloak their bigotry behind the veneer of false patriotism. But I will say this a true patriot would stand against the person described in the satire and defend all those people the fake patriot listed. Because those people are who make their country. Not so much a definition, but a concept. | |||
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"I am neither confused nor angry. It's always fun to debate people who call themselves liberals these days get into an argument without any clue about a topic, losing the plot and then resort to such silly tactics
oooh oooh he declared a disdain for liberals... we may have a "Patriot"
People who call themselves liberals. Not the actual liberals. But anyway will give you 1/10 for your sense of humour.
so you can tell the difference between people who claim to be liberals and actual liberals
but cannot tell the difference between people who claim to be patriots and actual patriots?
But the original post didn't say it's about people who claim to be patriots. If that is what it meant, I don't know why you won't be fine with replacing it with trans activists because the satire would just be about people who claim to be trans activists.
again with the ad hominem... why trans activists, if not for me being a Trans woman?"Because you were criticising another group and rationalising it. Only when you were put in the same position, you see the problem with that criticism. Unfortunately, this is what it takes to explain to some people. I am not a patriot by any means. But I can understand what's wrong with the satire you wrote. I know that doing the same with trans activists is also wrong because most trans activists are fine people. But it's only when I used this example, you could empathise with it better. | |||
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"I am neither confused nor angry. It's always fun to debate people who call themselves liberals these days get into an argument without any clue about a topic, losing the plot and then resort to such silly tactics
oooh oooh he declared a disdain for liberals... we may have a "Patriot"
People who call themselves liberals. Not the actual liberals. But anyway will give you 1/10 for your sense of humour.
so you can tell the difference between people who claim to be liberals and actual liberals
but cannot tell the difference between people who claim to be patriots and actual patriots?
What is your personal definition of a "Patriot"? Be so inclined to devuldge your interpretation.
My definition doesn't matter because the post isn't about ACTUAL patriotism. it is about people whole cloak their bigotry behind the veneer of false patriotism.
But I will say this a true patriot would stand against the person described in the satire and defend all those people the fake patriot listed. Because those people are who make their country.
Not so much a definition, but a concept."It does otherwise you wouldn't have posted it. Your definition matters does it not ? | |||
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"I am neither confused nor angry. It's always fun to debate people who call themselves liberals these days get into an argument without any clue about a topic, losing the plot and then resort to such silly tactics
oooh oooh he declared a disdain for liberals... we may have a "Patriot"
People who call themselves liberals. Not the actual liberals. But anyway will give you 1/10 for your sense of humour.
so you can tell the difference between people who claim to be liberals and actual liberals
but cannot tell the difference between people who claim to be patriots and actual patriots?
But the original post didn't say it's about people who claim to be patriots. If that is what it meant, I don't know why you won't be fine with replacing it with trans activists because the satire would just be about people who claim to be trans activists.
again with the ad hominem... why trans activists, if not for me being a Trans woman?
Because you were criticising another group and rationalising it. Only when you were put in the same position, you see the problem with that criticism.
Unfortunately, this is what it takes to explain to some people. I am not a patriot by any means. But I can understand what's wrong with the satire you wrote. I know that doing the same with trans activists is also wrong because most trans activists are fine people. But it's only when I used this example, you could empathise with it better."But thats not how it works. the whole satire is about false patriotism and bigotry, you cannot just change it out, it becomes meaningless if you do that. You should get a refund on that further education. | |||
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"I am neither confused nor angry. It's always fun to debate people who call themselves liberals these days get into an argument without any clue about a topic, losing the plot and then resort to such silly tactics
oooh oooh he declared a disdain for liberals... we may have a "Patriot"
People who call themselves liberals. Not the actual liberals. But anyway will give you 1/10 for your sense of humour.
so you can tell the difference between people who claim to be liberals and actual liberals
but cannot tell the difference between people who claim to be patriots and actual patriots?
What is your personal definition of a "Patriot"? Be so inclined to devuldge your interpretation.
My definition doesn't matter because the post isn't about ACTUAL patriotism. it is about people whole cloak their bigotry behind the veneer of false patriotism.
But I will say this a true patriot would stand against the person described in the satire and defend all those people the fake patriot listed. Because those people are who make their country.
Not so much a definition, but a concept.
It does otherwise you wouldn't have posted it. Your definition matters does it not ? "Blu I am not going to argue with you, I am not going to be baited by you. You can rant and rail, I explained the post and i explained how it doesn't matter what my definition is. I even gave a good example of actual patriotism. Have the day you deserve and leave me alone please. | |||
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"I am neither confused nor angry. It's always fun to debate people who call themselves liberals these days get into an argument without any clue about a topic, losing the plot and then resort to such silly tactics
oooh oooh he declared a disdain for liberals... we may have a "Patriot"
People who call themselves liberals. Not the actual liberals. But anyway will give you 1/10 for your sense of humour.
so you can tell the difference between people who claim to be liberals and actual liberals
but cannot tell the difference between people who claim to be patriots and actual patriots?
But the original post didn't say it's about people who claim to be patriots. If that is what it meant, I don't know why you won't be fine with replacing it with trans activists because the satire would just be about people who claim to be trans activists.
again with the ad hominem... why trans activists, if not for me being a Trans woman?
Because you were criticising another group and rationalising it. Only when you were put in the same position, you see the problem with that criticism.
Unfortunately, this is what it takes to explain to some people. I am not a patriot by any means. But I can understand what's wrong with the satire you wrote. I know that doing the same with trans activists is also wrong because most trans activists are fine people. But it's only when I used this example, you could empathise with it better.
But thats not how it works. the whole satire is about false patriotism and bigotry, you cannot just change it out, it becomes meaningless if you do that.
You should get a refund on that further education."Why? It is a fact that some trans activists indulged in violence and vandalism. It's only logical to assume these are people who try to satisfy their own need for violent expression under the guise of trans activism. If the satire is really about bigotry under the name of patriotism, it should obviously be applicable for violence under the name of trans activism. Will get the refund and wire it to you. You badly need one. | |||
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"I am neither confused nor angry. It's always fun to debate people who call themselves liberals these days get into an argument without any clue about a topic, losing the plot and then resort to such silly tactics
oooh oooh he declared a disdain for liberals... we may have a "Patriot"
People who call themselves liberals. Not the actual liberals. But anyway will give you 1/10 for your sense of humour.
so you can tell the difference between people who claim to be liberals and actual liberals
but cannot tell the difference between people who claim to be patriots and actual patriots?
But the original post didn't say it's about people who claim to be patriots. If that is what it meant, I don't know why you won't be fine with replacing it with trans activists because the satire would just be about people who claim to be trans activists.
again with the ad hominem... why trans activists, if not for me being a Trans woman?
Because you were criticising another group and rationalising it. Only when you were put in the same position, you see the problem with that criticism.
Unfortunately, this is what it takes to explain to some people. I am not a patriot by any means. But I can understand what's wrong with the satire you wrote. I know that doing the same with trans activists is also wrong because most trans activists are fine people. But it's only when I used this example, you could empathise with it better.
But thats not how it works. the whole satire is about false patriotism and bigotry, you cannot just change it out, it becomes meaningless if you do that.
You should get a refund on that further education.
Why? It is a fact that some trans activists indulged in violence and vandalism. It's only logical to assume these are people who try to satisfy their own need for violent expression under the guise of trans activism. If the satire is really about bigotry under the name of patriotism, it should obviously be applicable for violence under the name of trans activism.
Will get the refund and wire it to you. You badly need one."What you are describing is an entirely separate conversation about violence and vandalism, not bigotry. The amount of stretching and outright lying you need to do to even appear like you have an argument. pretty sad if I am honest. What you are doing is trying to argue that Star Trek sucks because Lord of the Rings has Wizards | |||
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"I am neither confused nor angry. It's always fun to debate people who call themselves liberals these days get into an argument without any clue about a topic, losing the plot and then resort to such silly tactics
oooh oooh he declared a disdain for liberals... we may have a "Patriot"
People who call themselves liberals. Not the actual liberals. But anyway will give you 1/10 for your sense of humour.
so you can tell the difference between people who claim to be liberals and actual liberals
but cannot tell the difference between people who claim to be patriots and actual patriots?
What is your personal definition of a "Patriot"? Be so inclined to devuldge your interpretation.
My definition doesn't matter because the post isn't about ACTUAL patriotism. it is about people whole cloak their bigotry behind the veneer of false patriotism.
But I will say this a true patriot would stand against the person described in the satire and defend all those people the fake patriot listed. Because those people are who make their country.
Not so much a definition, but a concept.
It does otherwise you wouldn't have posted it. Your definition matters does it not ?
Blu I am not going to argue with you, I am not going to be baited by you.
You can rant and rail, I explained the post and i explained how it doesn't matter what my definition is. I even gave a good example of actual patriotism.
Have the day you deserve and leave me alone please."lol I not baiting I being honest. [Pey-tree-uht] - noun 1. Values pride in self, Military and country. 2.Knows and celebrates the sacrifices made to defend those freedoms. 3.Someone who is committed to help build a better tomorrow. My interpretation of a "patriot". Your turn. | |||
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"I am neither confused nor angry. It's always fun to debate people who call themselves liberals these days get into an argument without any clue about a topic, losing the plot and then resort to such silly tactics
oooh oooh he declared a disdain for liberals... we may have a "Patriot"
People who call themselves liberals. Not the actual liberals. But anyway will give you 1/10 for your sense of humour.
so you can tell the difference between people who claim to be liberals and actual liberals
but cannot tell the difference between people who claim to be patriots and actual patriots?
But the original post didn't say it's about people who claim to be patriots. If that is what it meant, I don't know why you won't be fine with replacing it with trans activists because the satire would just be about people who claim to be trans activists.
again with the ad hominem... why trans activists, if not for me being a Trans woman?
Because you were criticising another group and rationalising it. Only when you were put in the same position, you see the problem with that criticism.
Unfortunately, this is what it takes to explain to some people. I am not a patriot by any means. But I can understand what's wrong with the satire you wrote. I know that doing the same with trans activists is also wrong because most trans activists are fine people. But it's only when I used this example, you could empathise with it better.
But thats not how it works. the whole satire is about false patriotism and bigotry, you cannot just change it out, it becomes meaningless if you do that.
You should get a refund on that further education.
Why? It is a fact that some trans activists indulged in violence and vandalism. It's only logical to assume these are people who try to satisfy their own need for violent expression under the guise of trans activism. If the satire is really about bigotry under the name of patriotism, it should obviously be applicable for violence under the name of trans activism.
Will get the refund and wire it to you. You badly need one.
What you are describing is an entirely separate conversation about violence and vandalism, not bigotry.
The amount of stretching and outright lying you need to do to even appear like you have an argument. pretty sad if I am honest.
What you are doing is trying to argue that Star Trek sucks because Lord of the Rings has Wizards"You justified your post by saying that it's only targeting bigots who hide behind the mask of patriotism while I claimed that it's a blanket statement on patriotism. If what you said is true, I should be able to rewrite the satire in the same format with specific trans activists who have indulged in vandalism. If what you claimed is true, this should be totally fine for you because the satire is not really a blanket statement on anyone according to you. So I am not really making a blanket statement. I am not lying by any means. Just one example: https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/blood-hands-jk-rowlings-edinburgh-18583199 | |||
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"You justified your post by saying that it's only targeting bigots who hide behind the mask of patriotism while I claimed that it's a blanket statement on patriotism. If what you said is true, I should be able to rewrite the satire in the same format with specific trans activists who have indulged in vandalism. If what you claimed is true, this should be totally fine for you because the satire is not really a blanket statement on anyone according to you. So I am not really making a blanket statement. I am not lying by any means. Just one example: https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/blood-hands-jk-rowlings-edinburgh-18583199" Look if you cannot understand why you are completely wrong, I won't be able to correct that for you. And you know what I don't really care. You can be ignorant and it affects my life not one bit. Continuing this is futile because you do not even understand the original post. And you can stop with the transphobia any time. | |||
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"You justified your post by saying that it's only targeting bigots who hide behind the mask of patriotism while I claimed that it's a blanket statement on patriotism. If what you said is true, I should be able to rewrite the satire in the same format with specific trans activists who have indulged in vandalism. If what you claimed is true, this should be totally fine for you because the satire is not really a blanket statement on anyone according to you. So I am not really making a blanket statement. I am not lying by any means. Just one example: https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/blood-hands-jk-rowlings-edinburgh-18583199 Look if you cannot understand why you are completely wrong, I won't be able to correct that for you. And you know what I don't really care. You can be ignorant and it affects my life not one bit. Continuing this is futile because you do not even understand the original post. And you can stop with the transphobia any time." There was no transphobia in his post. Please stop making false accusations. | |||
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"You justified your post by saying that it's only targeting bigots who hide behind the mask of patriotism while I claimed that it's a blanket statement on patriotism. If what you said is true, I should be able to rewrite the satire in the same format with specific trans activists who have indulged in vandalism. If what you claimed is true, this should be totally fine for you because the satire is not really a blanket statement on anyone according to you. So I am not really making a blanket statement. I am not lying by any means. Just one example: https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/blood-hands-jk-rowlings-edinburgh-18583199 Look if you cannot understand why you are completely wrong, I won't be able to correct that for you. And you know what I don't really care. You can be ignorant and it affects my life not one bit. Continuing this is futile because you do not even understand the original post. And you can stop with the transphobia any time. There was no transphobia in his post. Please stop making false accusations." Changing the topic specifically to trans issues as a means to attack the argument of a Trans Woman is text book transphobia. | |||
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"You justified your post by saying that it's only targeting bigots who hide behind the mask of patriotism while I claimed that it's a blanket statement on patriotism. If what you said is true, I should be able to rewrite the satire in the same format with specific trans activists who have indulged in vandalism. If what you claimed is true, this should be totally fine for you because the satire is not really a blanket statement on anyone according to you. So I am not really making a blanket statement. I am not lying by any means. Just one example: https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/blood-hands-jk-rowlings-edinburgh-18583199 Look if you cannot understand why you are completely wrong, I won't be able to correct that for you. And you know what I don't really care. You can be ignorant and it affects my life not one bit. Continuing this is futile because you do not even understand the original post. And you can stop with the transphobia any time. There was no transphobia in his post. Please stop making false accusations." Hi Biscuit , Are you a patriot ? | |||
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"You justified your post by saying that it's only targeting bigots who hide behind the mask of patriotism while I claimed that it's a blanket statement on patriotism. If what you said is true, I should be able to rewrite the satire in the same format with specific trans activists who have indulged in vandalism. If what you claimed is true, this should be totally fine for you because the satire is not really a blanket statement on anyone according to you. So I am not really making a blanket statement. I am not lying by any means. Just one example: https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/blood-hands-jk-rowlings-edinburgh-18583199 Look if you cannot understand why you are completely wrong, I won't be able to correct that for you. And you know what I don't really care. You can be ignorant and it affects my life not one bit. Continuing this is futile because you do not even understand the original post. And you can stop with the transphobia any time." I made a logical argument. If you can't refute it, fair enough. No need to throw words like transphobia. None of my post was against trans community. You have been making blanket statements in multiple threads. The moment I ask if the same can be done against you, you start calling transphobia. Maybe you should build some empathy before you preach others to have some? | |||
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"You justified your post by saying that it's only targeting bigots who hide behind the mask of patriotism while I claimed that it's a blanket statement on patriotism. If what you said is true, I should be able to rewrite the satire in the same format with specific trans activists who have indulged in vandalism. If what you claimed is true, this should be totally fine for you because the satire is not really a blanket statement on anyone according to you. So I am not really making a blanket statement. I am not lying by any means. Just one example: https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/blood-hands-jk-rowlings-edinburgh-18583199 Look if you cannot understand why you are completely wrong, I won't be able to correct that for you. And you know what I don't really care. You can be ignorant and it affects my life not one bit. Continuing this is futile because you do not even understand the original post. And you can stop with the transphobia any time. I made a logical argument. If you can't refute it, fair enough. No need to throw words like transphobia. None of my post was against trans community. You have been making blanket statements in multiple threads. The moment I ask if the same can be done against you, you start calling transphobia. Maybe you should build some empathy before you preach others to have some?" | |||
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"You justified your post by saying that it's only targeting bigots who hide behind the mask of patriotism while I claimed that it's a blanket statement on patriotism. If what you said is true, I should be able to rewrite the satire in the same format with specific trans activists who have indulged in vandalism. If what you claimed is true, this should be totally fine for you because the satire is not really a blanket statement on anyone according to you. So I am not really making a blanket statement. I am not lying by any means. Just one example: https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/blood-hands-jk-rowlings-edinburgh-18583199 Look if you cannot understand why you are completely wrong, I won't be able to correct that for you. And you know what I don't really care. You can be ignorant and it affects my life not one bit. Continuing this is futile because you do not even understand the original post. And you can stop with the transphobia any time. There was no transphobia in his post. Please stop making false accusations. Changing the topic specifically to trans issues as a means to attack the argument of a Trans Woman is text book transphobia." Transphobia is a negative feeling against trans people in general. None of my post did that. You have been making blanket statements about other groups of people in the forum for a long time. All I asked is if I can replace words in same post that you made with trans activists. And this, after you said it's not a blanket statement. And now I am a transphobe? | |||
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"[Pey-tree-uht] - noun 1. Values pride in self, Military and country. 2.Knows and celebrates the sacrifices made to defend those freedoms. 3.Someone who is committed to help build a better tomorrow. My interpretation of a "patriot". Your turn." Police officers too chickenshit to stop children being murdered by a gunman? They're patriots, too. They swear allegiance to the flag and the republic for which it stands on a regular basis, I'm sure. They must be patriots, if they're from Texas; even moreso, if any of them are ex-military. Right? How could they be anything but? Your list might accurately be applied to all those who fought The Confederacy and defeated it, in your Civil War; or anyone who served in WWII, to defeat the Axis and/or helped rebuild Europe and Japan after it. Americans haven't really known what patriotism is, since their defeat in the Vietnam War. It never applied to anyone who served in Afghanistan, for sure. And certainly not to the US citizens who stormed the Capitol. They're all traitors. | |||
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"[Pey-tree-uht] - noun 1. Values pride in self, Military and country. 2.Knows and celebrates the sacrifices made to defend those freedoms. 3.Someone who is committed to help build a better tomorrow. My interpretation of a "patriot". Your turn. Police officers too chickenshit to stop children being murdered by a gunman? They're patriots, too. They swear allegiance to the flag and the republic for which it stands on a regular basis, I'm sure. They must be patriots, if they're from Texas; even moreso, if any of them are ex-military. Right? How could they be anything but? Your list might accurately be applied to all those who fought The Confederacy and defeated it, in your Civil War; or anyone who served in WWII, to defeat the Axis and/or helped rebuild Europe and Japan after it. Americans haven't really known what patriotism is, since their defeat in the Vietnam War. It never applied to anyone who served in Afghanistan, for sure. And certainly not to the US citizens who stormed the Capitol. They're all traitors." angry much ? It's the general acceptable feeling here. The number 1 trusted institution is the military. Not health care not government. You were saying? Government is dead last. | |||
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"[Pey-tree-uht] - noun 1. Values pride in self, Military and country. 2.Knows and celebrates the sacrifices made to defend those freedoms. 3.Someone who is committed to help build a better tomorrow. My interpretation of a "patriot". Your turn. Police officers too chickenshit to stop children being murdered by a gunman? They're patriots, too. They swear allegiance to the flag and the republic for which it stands on a regular basis, I'm sure. They must be patriots, if they're from Texas; even moreso, if any of them are ex-military. Right? How could they be anything but? Your list might accurately be applied to all those who fought The Confederacy and defeated it, in your Civil War; or anyone who served in WWII, to defeat the Axis and/or helped rebuild Europe and Japan after it. Americans haven't really known what patriotism is, since their defeat in the Vietnam War. It never applied to anyone who served in Afghanistan, for sure. And certainly not to the US citizens who stormed the Capitol. They're all traitors. angry much ? It's the general acceptable feeling here. The number 1 trusted institution is the military. Not health care not government. You were saying? Government is dead last." Now on your standpoints who are patriots the general population or the government.. you decide. | |||
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"I class myself as a Patriot. I’ve no doubt there are those that look sideways at others disapprovingly because of XYZ, but not all Patriots are narrow minded bigots. Of course not, but what is it that makes you a patriot? And do any of the OPs points resonate with you " Put simply I love my country even with faults and dark history. I’m proud to be an Englishman. I can see some of those traits listed in OP’s opening gambit in people or at least I remember seeing people like that, she nailed it with regards to those who see their Patriotism as a valid reason to dig out those from overseas. | |||
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"I class myself as a Patriot. I’ve no doubt there are those that look sideways at others disapprovingly because of XYZ, but not all Patriots are narrow minded bigots. a patriot to what?" To the country, it’s history, customs, literature, arts, etc. | |||
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"I class myself as a Patriot. I’ve no doubt there are those that look sideways at others disapprovingly because of XYZ, but not all Patriots are narrow minded bigots. Of course not, but what is it that makes you a patriot? And do any of the OPs points resonate with you Almost everyone in the army can be classified as patriot. I don't think they are all bigots. What makes a ‘patriot’ Dictionary says - a person who vigorously supports their country and is prepared to defend it against enemies or detractors. People in army are patriots by default. What makes you a patriot? Not sure why you keep asking the question again and again. I am not a patriot. I will be one if I support the country and willing to fight for it. all sounds a bit vague to be honest. From what I can gather, you can only be a patriot if your in the armed forces " you claimed to be a patriot a while back what makes you a patriot? | |||
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"I class myself as a Patriot. I’ve no doubt there are those that look sideways at others disapprovingly because of XYZ, but not all Patriots are narrow minded bigots. Of course not, but what is it that makes you a patriot? And do any of the OPs points resonate with you Almost everyone in the army can be classified as patriot. I don't think they are all bigots. What makes a ‘patriot’ Dictionary says - a person who vigorously supports their country and is prepared to defend it against enemies or detractors. People in army are patriots by default. What makes you a patriot? Not sure why you keep asking the question again and again. I am not a patriot. I will be one if I support the country and willing to fight for it. all sounds a bit vague to be honest. From what I can gather, you can only be a patriot if your in the armed forces you claimed to be a patriot a while back what makes you a patriot?" I am not a patriot and have never claimed to be , my family and friends are far more important to me than ‘my’ country | |||
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"Love a bit of satire. Would you describe those that are fighting for their lives in Ukraine as patriots? " Some of them are, others don’t have a choice, would you describe those who were conscripted into fighting in WW2 as patriots | |||
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"Love a bit of satire. Would you describe those that are fighting for their lives in Ukraine as patriots? " I think fighting for your country is an act of Patriotism but the motivations will determine if they are a Patriot. I think of the volunteers from GB at the start of WW1 as very much Patriots. | |||
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"Love a bit of satire. Would you describe those that are fighting for their lives in Ukraine as patriots? Some of them are, others don’t have a choice, would you describe those who were conscripted into fighting in WW2 as patriots " I would think some were. My uncle certainly was as he signed up too young. The army found out he was estranged from his father and was sent home from training base to make up. Towards the end of the war he didn’t come home from a flight back from Germany . | |||
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"Paraphrased from a 60's satirical magazine... See the Patriot. Hear him preach how he loves his country. Hear him preach how much he hates "Liberals"... And "Moderates"... and "Intellectuals"... And "Minority Groups"... and "Immigrants"... And "Unions"... and "Teenagers"... And the "Very Rich"... and the "Very Poor"... And "People with Foreign-Sounding Names". Now you know what a Patriot is. He's someone who loves his country, While hating 93% of the people who live there." So, satire aside, would you say it’s a bad thing to be a patriot? | |||
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"Paraphrased from a 60's satirical magazine... See the Patriot. Hear him preach how he loves his country. Hear him preach how much he hates "Liberals"... And "Moderates"... and "Intellectuals"... And "Minority Groups"... and "Immigrants"... And "Unions"... and "Teenagers"... And the "Very Rich"... and the "Very Poor"... And "People with Foreign-Sounding Names". Now you know what a Patriot is. He's someone who loves his country, While hating 93% of the people who live there. So, satire aside, would you say it’s a bad thing to be a patriot? " I think it depends on who and why they think they are a patriot, you get idiotic football hooligans who think they are being patriotic by singing offensive songs and smashing up other countries , fortunately they are a tiny minority | |||
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"Paraphrased from a 60's satirical magazine... See the Patriot. Hear him preach how he loves his country. Hear him preach how much he hates "Liberals"... And "Moderates"... and "Intellectuals"... And "Minority Groups"... and "Immigrants"... And "Unions"... and "Teenagers"... And the "Very Rich"... and the "Very Poor"... And "People with Foreign-Sounding Names". Now you know what a Patriot is. He's someone who loves his country, While hating 93% of the people who live there. So, satire aside, would you say it’s a bad thing to be a patriot? I think it depends on who and why they think they are a patriot, you get idiotic football hooligans who think they are being patriotic by singing offensive songs and smashing up other countries , fortunately they are a tiny minority " I'm interested to understand what you think makes someone a patriot and someone not? | |||
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"Paraphrased from a 60's satirical magazine... See the Patriot. Hear him preach how he loves his country. Hear him preach how much he hates "Liberals"... And "Moderates"... and "Intellectuals"... And "Minority Groups"... and "Immigrants"... And "Unions"... and "Teenagers"... And the "Very Rich"... and the "Very Poor"... And "People with Foreign-Sounding Names". Now you know what a Patriot is. He's someone who loves his country, While hating 93% of the people who live there. So, satire aside, would you say it’s a bad thing to be a patriot? I think it depends on who and why they think they are a patriot, you get idiotic football hooligans who think they are being patriotic by singing offensive songs and smashing up other countries , fortunately they are a tiny minority I'm interested to understand what you think makes someone a patriot and someone not? " Someone who puts their country before themselves a person who is willing to die for their country , | |||
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"Paraphrased from a 60's satirical magazine... See the Patriot. Hear him preach how he loves his country. Hear him preach how much he hates "Liberals"... And "Moderates"... and "Intellectuals"... And "Minority Groups"... and "Immigrants"... And "Unions"... and "Teenagers"... And the "Very Rich"... and the "Very Poor"... And "People with Foreign-Sounding Names". Now you know what a Patriot is. He's someone who loves his country, While hating 93% of the people who live there. So, satire aside, would you say it’s a bad thing to be a patriot? I think it depends on who and why they think they are a patriot, you get idiotic football hooligans who think they are being patriotic by singing offensive songs and smashing up other countries , fortunately they are a tiny minority I'm interested to understand what you think makes someone a patriot and someone not? Someone who puts their country before themselves a person who is willing to die for their country , " That's a definition really. I mean why are some patriotic and others not so? | |||
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"If say the capital "P" of patriot is what makes this not about all patriots but of the person who identifies as a patriot while also doing all that hating. It's like the Capitalist who hides behind tarrifs and the government when it suits their needs. Not all capitalists. And my definition of a patriot is someone who thinks gehri country is best, simply because they happened to be born their
Anyway, let's play nicely kids. This thread shouldn't be as long as it is... And wouldn't be if we not have little personal digs! "No personal digs from me, I'm curious to know what others think makes someone more patriotic than others. I have an idea, be good to know what others think | |||
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"Paraphrased from a 60's satirical magazine... See the Patriot. Hear him preach how he loves his country. Hear him preach how much he hates "Liberals"... And "Moderates"... and "Intellectuals"... And "Minority Groups"... and "Immigrants"... And "Unions"... and "Teenagers"... And the "Very Rich"... and the "Very Poor"... And "People with Foreign-Sounding Names". Now you know what a Patriot is. He's someone who loves his country, While hating 93% of the people who live there. So, satire aside, would you say it’s a bad thing to be a patriot? I think it depends on who and why they think they are a patriot, you get idiotic football hooligans who think they are being patriotic by singing offensive songs and smashing up other countries , fortunately they are a tiny minority I'm interested to understand what you think makes someone a patriot and someone not? Someone who puts their country before themselves a person who is willing to die for their country , That's a definition really. I mean why are some patriotic and others not so? " I don’t know why some people think they are patriotic, maybe they don’t understand what it means , | |||
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"I don’t know why some people think they are patriotic, maybe they don’t understand what it means , " It surely isn't all of it, but I would say some of it is that Patriotism is taught by some to be this high standard we can meet in society. So people want to seem like they meet that standard even if they do not. | |||
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"Trying to explain the definition of patriotism to someone who just doesn't get it is as pointless as trying to explain calculus to a house brick." Ok Biscuit, you explain what makes a Patriot | |||
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"I don’t know why some people think they are patriotic, maybe they don’t understand what it means , It surely isn't all of it, but I would say some of it is that Patriotism is taught by some to be this high standard we can meet in society. So people want to seem like they meet that standard even if they do not." Maybe, It seems like everyone has a different version or opinion of what makes a patriot | |||
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"The OPs original post is a classic piece of satire directed at the conflict between people who profess to being patriots while actually being nationalists (yes, there is a difference!) and the dogmatism of the USB kid on here is a classic example of being unable to concede that you may have missed the point or are wilfully doing so! "Still haven't received an answer for my question on this thread. Neither did I get a logical answer for my USB question. Maybe a little less patronising and little more rational thinking would help you folks. | |||
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"I don’t know why some people think they are patriotic, maybe they don’t understand what it means , It surely isn't all of it, but I would say some of it is that Patriotism is taught by some to be this high standard we can meet in society. So people want to seem like they meet that standard even if they do not." I would lean towards that. Patriotic people don't think they are patriotic, they know they are. The question is where does it come from? It must be learnt? If it is I would imagine it has been learnt from family, peers, schools, Hollywood. If we take this as an assumption, that it is taught early on, we can say as someone develops more individual thinking, patriotism must decline, or many more would be forever be a patriot. Where or when does the decline in patriotism happen? | |||
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"The OPs original post is a classic piece of satire directed at the conflict between people who profess to being patriots while actually being nationalists (yes, there is a difference!) and the dogmatism of the USB kid on here is a classic example of being unable to concede that you may have missed the point or are wilfully doing so!
Still haven't received an answer for my question on this thread. Neither did I get a logical answer for my USB question. Maybe a little less patronising and little more rational thinking would help you folks."You have a couple of questions on here, which one in particular wasn't answered? | |||
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"The OPs original post is a classic piece of satire directed at the conflict between people who profess to being patriots while actually being nationalists (yes, there is a difference!) and the dogmatism of the USB kid on here is a classic example of being unable to concede that you may have missed the point or are wilfully doing so!
Still haven't received an answer for my question on this thread. Neither did I get a logical answer for my USB question. Maybe a little less patronising and little more rational thinking would help you folks.
You have a couple of questions on here, which one in particular wasn't answered? "Their excuse is that the original post is not a blanket statement on all patriots. I don't agree with that. So I said if I take the exact post, replace patriot with any of their favourite groups, trans activists for example and the middle lines as they indulge in vandalism and violence, would it be fine? If it's not a blanket statement as they claim, then what I suggested should also be fine because some activists did indulge in vandalism. The only response I got was that I was a transphobe. | |||
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"The OPs original post is a classic piece of satire directed at the conflict between people who profess to being patriots while actually being nationalists (yes, there is a difference!) and the dogmatism of the USB kid on here is a classic example of being unable to concede that you may have missed the point or are wilfully doing so!
Still haven't received an answer for my question on this thread. Neither did I get a logical answer for my USB question. Maybe a little less patronising and little more rational thinking would help you folks.
You have a couple of questions on here, which one in particular wasn't answered?
Their excuse is that the original post is not a blanket statement on all patriots. I don't agree with that. So I said if I take the exact post, replace patriot with any of their favourite groups, trans activists for example and the middle lines as they indulge in vandalism and violence, would it be fine? If it's not a blanket statement as they claim, then what I suggested should also be fine because some activists did indulge in vandalism.
The only response I got was that I was a transphobe."Are you saying any group of people can be classed as patriots? I'm not following your reasoning, if that is the case. | |||
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"The OPs original post is a classic piece of satire directed at the conflict between people who profess to being patriots while actually being nationalists (yes, there is a difference!) and the dogmatism of the USB kid on here is a classic example of being unable to concede that you may have missed the point or are wilfully doing so!
Still haven't received an answer for my question on this thread. Neither did I get a logical answer for my USB question. Maybe a little less patronising and little more rational thinking would help you folks.
You have a couple of questions on here, which one in particular wasn't answered?
Their excuse is that the original post is not a blanket statement on all patriots. I don't agree with that. So I said if I take the exact post, replace patriot with any of their favourite groups, trans activists for example and the middle lines as they indulge in vandalism and violence, would it be fine? If it's not a blanket statement as they claim, then what I suggested should also be fine because some activists did indulge in vandalism.
The only response I got was that I was a transphobe."That is a lie, you were answered multiple times by multiple people, you just didn't like or accept the answer. I also didn't call you a transphobe, I said you could stop being transphobic, there IS a difference. | |||
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"The OPs original post is a classic piece of satire directed at the conflict between people who profess to being patriots while actually being nationalists (yes, there is a difference!) and the dogmatism of the USB kid on here is a classic example of being unable to concede that you may have missed the point or are wilfully doing so!
Still haven't received an answer for my question on this thread. Neither did I get a logical answer for my USB question. Maybe a little less patronising and little more rational thinking would help you folks.
You have a couple of questions on here, which one in particular wasn't answered?
Their excuse is that the original post is not a blanket statement on all patriots. I don't agree with that. So I said if I take the exact post, replace patriot with any of their favourite groups, trans activists for example and the middle lines as they indulge in vandalism and violence, would it be fine? If it's not a blanket statement as they claim, then what I suggested should also be fine because some activists did indulge in vandalism.
The only response I got was that I was a transphobe."herein lies the issue imo. While I would read the OP as being about a type of patriot (the Patriot) rather than all, I can see that one could read it as being all if they took it literally. I'd say teh way it's worked means there's more litrary nuance that that. But can see there coudld be two views. You appear to be fixed on it only being read as a blanket statement. And to show this you've created an example that doesn't capture the nuance of the satire, namely the conflict. There is no reason why a trans activist couldn't use violence. An anti war protester would have worked. But using an example that misses the nuance possibly reinforces the veiw that you don't understand the satire. And if you can't see the satire, all that is left is the literal. | |||
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"The OPs original post is a classic piece of satire directed at the conflict between people who profess to being patriots while actually being nationalists (yes, there is a difference!) and the dogmatism of the USB kid on here is a classic example of being unable to concede that you may have missed the point or are wilfully doing so!
Still haven't received an answer for my question on this thread. Neither did I get a logical answer for my USB question. Maybe a little less patronising and little more rational thinking would help you folks.
You have a couple of questions on here, which one in particular wasn't answered?
Their excuse is that the original post is not a blanket statement on all patriots. I don't agree with that. So I said if I take the exact post, replace patriot with any of their favourite groups, trans activists for example and the middle lines as they indulge in vandalism and violence, would it be fine? If it's not a blanket statement as they claim, then what I suggested should also be fine because some activists did indulge in vandalism.
The only response I got was that I was a transphobe.
Are you saying any group of people can be classed as patriots? I'm not following your reasoning, if that is the case."By blanket statement, I meant that the original post implied all patriots are bigots. For me, the statement "Now you know what a Patriot is." shows it's about all patriots and calls them all to be bigoted. While there could indeed be some correlation between patriotism and bigotry, I don't believe a blanket statement is factually correct. Some others seem to deny it's a blanket statement in the first place. | |||
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"The OPs original post is a classic piece of satire directed at the conflict between people who profess to being patriots while actually being nationalists (yes, there is a difference!) and the dogmatism of the USB kid on here is a classic example of being unable to concede that you may have missed the point or are wilfully doing so!
Still haven't received an answer for my question on this thread. Neither did I get a logical answer for my USB question. Maybe a little less patronising and little more rational thinking would help you folks.
You have a couple of questions on here, which one in particular wasn't answered?
Their excuse is that the original post is not a blanket statement on all patriots. I don't agree with that. So I said if I take the exact post, replace patriot with any of their favourite groups, trans activists for example and the middle lines as they indulge in vandalism and violence, would it be fine? If it's not a blanket statement as they claim, then what I suggested should also be fine because some activists did indulge in vandalism.
The only response I got was that I was a transphobe.
Are you saying any group of people can be classed as patriots? I'm not following your reasoning, if that is the case.
By blanket statement, I meant that the original post implied all patriots are bigots. For me, the statement "Now you know what a Patriot is." shows it's about all patriots and calls them all to be bigoted. While there could indeed be some correlation between patriotism and bigotry, I don't believe a blanket statement is factually correct. Some others seem to deny it's a blanket statement in the first place."Got you. The very first line: "Paraphrased from a 60's satirical magazine... See the Patriot." It is purposefully constructed in this way to poke fun, it is satire. Comedians use this style to emphasise a point and elevate their satire all the time. | |||
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"Is it American satire? The ‘patriot’ thing seems more American. I can’t remember the last time it came up in discussion or when anyone was asked. Last time I was asked “are you proud to be British “ was from a very frightening woman from Northern Ireland. She went on - “you should be proud to be British, I fought for the right to be British “. “Good for you love”, I replied. Where are you from I stupidly asked in an attempt to change the subject. “I’m from Londonderry “ came the reply. “Don’t you mean the free city of Derry” I replied - I like to live on the edge. I thought she was going to explode. Luckily a taxi pulled up , I jumped in and made my escape. Here’s a question - can you be a British patriot, or does it have to be English, Welsh, Scottish? Another fascinating conversation I will remember for ever, a young guy in Birmingham of Pakistani parents said to me ‘ I love this country (England) I’m a patriot, I deal with a lot of young guys of Pakistani parents who are disillusioned and looking for a fight, I tell them join the British army “ He runs a gym & boxing club. That guy and that conversation really opened my eyes & mind. So, a patriot can clearly take many forms. They don’t all have the George cross tattooed on their foreheads and with love & hate on their knuckles. Well, only me! Love and peace to all" Where did you copy and paste that from? | |||
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"Is it American satire? The ‘patriot’ thing seems more American. I can’t remember the last time it came up in discussion or when anyone was asked. Last time I was asked “are you proud to be British “ was from a very frightening woman from Northern Ireland. She went on - “you should be proud to be British, I fought for the right to be British “. “Good for you love”, I replied. Where are you from I stupidly asked in an attempt to change the subject. “I’m from Londonderry “ came the reply. “Don’t you mean the free city of Derry” I replied - I like to live on the edge. I thought she was going to explode. Luckily a taxi pulled up , I jumped in and made my escape. Here’s a question - can you be a British patriot, or does it have to be English, Welsh, Scottish? Another fascinating conversation I will remember for ever, a young guy in Birmingham of Pakistani parents said to me ‘ I love this country (England) I’m a patriot, I deal with a lot of young guys of Pakistani parents who are disillusioned and looking for a fight, I tell them join the British army “ He runs a gym & boxing club. That guy and that conversation really opened my eyes & mind. So, a patriot can clearly take many forms. They don’t all have the George cross tattooed on their foreheads and with love & hate on their knuckles. Well, only me! Love and peace to all Where did you copy and paste that from? " Ouch! Every single word is true if you don’t mind. The Irish conversation was a taxi tank in Puerto Banus . She was scary. The Birmingham conversation was in one of the big hotels, a group of guys I was introduced to by a long term customer. Back in the days when I had a proper job and traveled extensively. | |||
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"Is it American satire? The ‘patriot’ thing seems more American. I can’t remember the last time it came up in discussion or when anyone was asked. Last time I was asked “are you proud to be British “ was from a very frightening woman from Northern Ireland. She went on - “you should be proud to be British, I fought for the right to be British “. “Good for you love”, I replied. Where are you from I stupidly asked in an attempt to change the subject. “I’m from Londonderry “ came the reply. “Don’t you mean the free city of Derry” I replied - I like to live on the edge. I thought she was going to explode. Luckily a taxi pulled up , I jumped in and made my escape. Here’s a question - can you be a British patriot, or does it have to be English, Welsh, Scottish? Another fascinating conversation I will remember for ever, a young guy in Birmingham of Pakistani parents said to me ‘ I love this country (England) I’m a patriot, I deal with a lot of young guys of Pakistani parents who are disillusioned and looking for a fight, I tell them join the British army “ He runs a gym & boxing club. That guy and that conversation really opened my eyes & mind. So, a patriot can clearly take many forms. They don’t all have the George cross tattooed on their foreheads and with love & hate on their knuckles. Well, only me! Love and peace to all Where did you copy and paste that from? Ouch! Every single word is true if you don’t mind. The Irish conversation was a taxi tank in Puerto Banus . She was scary. The Birmingham conversation was in one of the big hotels, a group of guys I was introduced to by a long term customer. Back in the days when I had a proper job and traveled extensively. " You have an amazing memory and seem to have an ‘anecdote ‘ for nearly every situation , it is very impressive | |||
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"Is it American satire? The ‘patriot’ thing seems more American. I can’t remember the last time it came up in discussion or when anyone was asked. Last time I was asked “are you proud to be British “ was from a very frightening woman from Northern Ireland. She went on - “you should be proud to be British, I fought for the right to be British “. “Good for you love”, I replied. Where are you from I stupidly asked in an attempt to change the subject. “I’m from Londonderry “ came the reply. “Don’t you mean the free city of Derry” I replied - I like to live on the edge. I thought she was going to explode. Luckily a taxi pulled up , I jumped in and made my escape. Here’s a question - can you be a British patriot, or does it have to be English, Welsh, Scottish? Another fascinating conversation I will remember for ever, a young guy in Birmingham of Pakistani parents said to me ‘ I love this country (England) I’m a patriot, I deal with a lot of young guys of Pakistani parents who are disillusioned and looking for a fight, I tell them join the British army “ He runs a gym & boxing club. That guy and that conversation really opened my eyes & mind. So, a patriot can clearly take many forms. They don’t all have the George cross tattooed on their foreheads and with love & hate on their knuckles. Well, only me! Love and peace to all Where did you copy and paste that from? Ouch! Every single word is true if you don’t mind. The Irish conversation was a taxi tank in Puerto Banus . She was scary. The Birmingham conversation was in one of the big hotels, a group of guys I was introduced to by a long term customer. Back in the days when I had a proper job and traveled extensively. You have an amazing memory and seem to have an ‘anecdote ‘ for nearly every situation , it is very impressive "You still don’t believe me. I’m hurt. | |||
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"Is it American satire? The ‘patriot’ thing seems more American. I can’t remember the last time it came up in discussion or when anyone was asked. Last time I was asked “are you proud to be British “ was from a very frightening woman from Northern Ireland. She went on - “you should be proud to be British, I fought for the right to be British “. “Good for you love”, I replied. Where are you from I stupidly asked in an attempt to change the subject. “I’m from Londonderry “ came the reply. “Don’t you mean the free city of Derry” I replied - I like to live on the edge. I thought she was going to explode. Luckily a taxi pulled up , I jumped in and made my escape. Here’s a question - can you be a British patriot, or does it have to be English, Welsh, Scottish? Another fascinating conversation I will remember for ever, a young guy in Birmingham of Pakistani parents said to me ‘ I love this country (England) I’m a patriot, I deal with a lot of young guys of Pakistani parents who are disillusioned and looking for a fight, I tell them join the British army “ He runs a gym & boxing club. That guy and that conversation really opened my eyes & mind. So, a patriot can clearly take many forms. They don’t all have the George cross tattooed on their foreheads and with love & hate on their knuckles. Well, only me! Love and peace to all Where did you copy and paste that from? Ouch! Every single word is true if you don’t mind. The Irish conversation was a taxi tank in Puerto Banus . She was scary. The Birmingham conversation was in one of the big hotels, a group of guys I was introduced to by a long term customer. Back in the days when I had a proper job and traveled extensively. You have an amazing memory and seem to have an ‘anecdote ‘ for nearly every situation , it is very impressive "Some things will stay with me for ever. You still don’t believe me. I’m hurt. | |||
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"Is it American satire? The ‘patriot’ thing seems more American. I can’t remember the last time it came up in discussion or when anyone was asked. Last time I was asked “are you proud to be British “ was from a very frightening woman from Northern Ireland. She went on - “you should be proud to be British, I fought for the right to be British “. “Good for you love”, I replied. Where are you from I stupidly asked in an attempt to change the subject. “I’m from Londonderry “ came the reply. “Don’t you mean the free city of Derry” I replied - I like to live on the edge. I thought she was going to explode. Luckily a taxi pulled up , I jumped in and made my escape. Here’s a question - can you be a British patriot, or does it have to be English, Welsh, Scottish? Another fascinating conversation I will remember for ever, a young guy in Birmingham of Pakistani parents said to me ‘ I love this country (England) I’m a patriot, I deal with a lot of young guys of Pakistani parents who are disillusioned and looking for a fight, I tell them join the British army “ He runs a gym & boxing club. That guy and that conversation really opened my eyes & mind. So, a patriot can clearly take many forms. They don’t all have the George cross tattooed on their foreheads and with love & hate on their knuckles. Well, only me! Love and peace to all Where did you copy and paste that from? Ouch! Every single word is true if you don’t mind. The Irish conversation was a taxi tank in Puerto Banus . She was scary. The Birmingham conversation was in one of the big hotels, a group of guys I was introduced to by a long term customer. Back in the days when I had a proper job and traveled extensively. You have an amazing memory and seem to have an ‘anecdote ‘ for nearly every situation , it is very impressive
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"So hurt I posted it twice! He doth protest too much, methinks " The bit about tattoos is made up. I’m ink free. | |||
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"The OPs original post is a classic piece of satire directed at the conflict between people who profess to being patriots while actually being nationalists (yes, there is a difference!) and the dogmatism of the USB kid on here is a classic example of being unable to concede that you may have missed the point or are wilfully doing so!
Still haven't received an answer for my question on this thread. Neither did I get a logical answer for my USB question. Maybe a little less patronising and little more rational thinking would help you folks."Maybe a little more understanding and a little more nuance might help if you want to get your point across? | |||
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"The OPs original post is a classic piece of satire directed at the conflict between people who profess to being patriots while actually being nationalists (yes, there is a difference!) and the dogmatism of the USB kid on here is a classic example of being unable to concede that you may have missed the point or are wilfully doing so!
Still haven't received an answer for my question on this thread. Neither did I get a logical answer for my USB question. Maybe a little less patronising and little more rational thinking would help you folks.
You have a couple of questions on here, which one in particular wasn't answered?
Their excuse is that the original post is not a blanket statement on all patriots. I don't agree with that. So I said if I take the exact post, replace patriot with any of their favourite groups, trans activists for example and the middle lines as they indulge in vandalism and violence, would it be fine? If it's not a blanket statement as they claim, then what I suggested should also be fine because some activists did indulge in vandalism.
The only response I got was that I was a transphobe.
Are you saying any group of people can be classed as patriots? I'm not following your reasoning, if that is the case.
By blanket statement, I meant that the original post implied all patriots are bigots. For me, the statement "Now you know what a Patriot is." shows it's about all patriots and calls them all to be bigoted. While there could indeed be some correlation between patriotism and bigotry, I don't believe a blanket statement is factually correct. Some others seem to deny it's a blanket statement in the first place."It's not correct as a blanket statement. In my experience "patriotic" people are more likely to attack anyone who thinks that we can get better as a country,anyone who is critical of the government or government policy, etc. Which seems to be the opposite behaviour of someone who loves the country. Because someone who truly does, wants to country to be the best it can be and will always be striving for improvement in every aspect of British life. | |||
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"The OPs original post is a classic piece of satire directed at the conflict between people who profess to being patriots while actually being nationalists (yes, there is a difference!) and the dogmatism of the USB kid on here is a classic example of being unable to concede that you may have missed the point or are wilfully doing so!
Still haven't received an answer for my question on this thread. Neither did I get a logical answer for my USB question. Maybe a little less patronising and little more rational thinking would help you folks.
You have a couple of questions on here, which one in particular wasn't answered?
Their excuse is that the original post is not a blanket statement on all patriots. I don't agree with that. So I said if I take the exact post, replace patriot with any of their favourite groups, trans activists for example and the middle lines as they indulge in vandalism and violence, would it be fine? If it's not a blanket statement as they claim, then what I suggested should also be fine because some activists did indulge in vandalism.
The only response I got was that I was a transphobe.
Are you saying any group of people can be classed as patriots? I'm not following your reasoning, if that is the case.
By blanket statement, I meant that the original post implied all patriots are bigots. For me, the statement "Now you know what a Patriot is." shows it's about all patriots and calls them all to be bigoted. While there could indeed be some correlation between patriotism and bigotry, I don't believe a blanket statement is factually correct. Some others seem to deny it's a blanket statement in the first place.
It's not correct as a blanket statement.
In my experience "patriotic" people are more likely to attack anyone who thinks that we can get better as a country,anyone who is critical of the government or government policy, etc. Which seems to be the opposite behaviour of someone who loves the country. Because someone who truly does, wants to country to be the best it can be and will always be striving for improvement in every aspect of British life."I agree with what you say. People who call themselves patriots sometimes even support the government when they do things which go against the country's interests. I have seen some claims recently that this is the difference between a patriot and nationalist. These claims say that a patriot won't do something like this and only a nationalist would do it. It becomes a discussion of what terminology to use then. But the original post is about bigotry. Again, something that a patriot is more likely to do but not correct as a blanket statement. In my opinion, it boils down to what the person defines as a country. Is it the people or the government or just the boundary? People who call themselves patriots react differently to different scenarios based on what they answer to the above question. | |||
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"Paraphrased from a 60's satirical magazine... See the Patriot. Hear him preach how he loves his country. Hear him preach how much he hates "Liberals"... And "Moderates"... and "Intellectuals"... And "Minority Groups"... and "Immigrants"... And "Unions"... and "Teenagers"... And the "Very Rich"... and the "Very Poor"... And "People with Foreign-Sounding Names". Now you know what a Patriot is. He's someone who loves his country, While hating 93% of the people who live there. So, satire aside, would you say it’s a bad thing to be a patriot? I think it depends on who and why they think they are a patriot, you get idiotic football hooligans who think they are being patriotic by singing offensive songs and smashing up other countries , fortunately they are a tiny minority " yes a tiny minority but you still pointed them out rather than the majority who sing none offensive songs typical you lol | |||
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"The OPs original post is a classic piece of satire directed at the conflict between people who profess to being patriots while actually being nationalists (yes, there is a difference!) and the dogmatism of the USB kid on here is a classic example of being unable to concede that you may have missed the point or are wilfully doing so!
Still haven't received an answer for my question on this thread. Neither did I get a logical answer for my USB question. Maybe a little less patronising and little more rational thinking would help you folks.
You have a couple of questions on here, which one in particular wasn't answered?
Their excuse is that the original post is not a blanket statement on all patriots. I don't agree with that. So I said if I take the exact post, replace patriot with any of their favourite groups, trans activists for example and the middle lines as they indulge in vandalism and violence, would it be fine? If it's not a blanket statement as they claim, then what I suggested should also be fine because some activists did indulge in vandalism.
The only response I got was that I was a transphobe.
Are you saying any group of people can be classed as patriots? I'm not following your reasoning, if that is the case.
By blanket statement, I meant that the original post implied all patriots are bigots. For me, the statement "Now you know what a Patriot is." shows it's about all patriots and calls them all to be bigoted. While there could indeed be some correlation between patriotism and bigotry, I don't believe a blanket statement is factually correct. Some others seem to deny it's a blanket statement in the first place.
It's not correct as a blanket statement.
In my experience "patriotic" people are more likely to attack anyone who thinks that we can get better as a country,anyone who is critical of the government or government policy, etc. Which seems to be the opposite behaviour of someone who loves the country. Because someone who truly does, wants to country to be the best it can be and will always be striving for improvement in every aspect of British life."in your experience lol who the fuck doesn’t want the U.K. to be the best it can be just because someone as different beliefs and opinions to you doesn’t mean they don’t want what’s best for there country People having different opinions is a great thing it shows we not all sheep | |||
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"The OPs original post is a classic piece of satire directed at the conflict between people who profess to being patriots while actually being nationalists (yes, there is a difference!) and the dogmatism of the USB kid on here is a classic example of being unable to concede that you may have missed the point or are wilfully doing so!
Still haven't received an answer for my question on this thread. Neither did I get a logical answer for my USB question. Maybe a little less patronising and little more rational thinking would help you folks.
You have a couple of questions on here, which one in particular wasn't answered?
Their excuse is that the original post is not a blanket statement on all patriots. I don't agree with that. So I said if I take the exact post, replace patriot with any of their favourite groups, trans activists for example and the middle lines as they indulge in vandalism and violence, would it be fine? If it's not a blanket statement as they claim, then what I suggested should also be fine because some activists did indulge in vandalism.
The only response I got was that I was a transphobe.
Are you saying any group of people can be classed as patriots? I'm not following your reasoning, if that is the case.
By blanket statement, I meant that the original post implied all patriots are bigots. For me, the statement "Now you know what a Patriot is." shows it's about all patriots and calls them all to be bigoted. While there could indeed be some correlation between patriotism and bigotry, I don't believe a blanket statement is factually correct. Some others seem to deny it's a blanket statement in the first place.
It's not correct as a blanket statement.
In my experience "patriotic" people are more likely to attack anyone who thinks that we can get better as a country,anyone who is critical of the government or government policy, etc. Which seems to be the opposite behaviour of someone who loves the country. Because someone who truly does, wants to country to be the best it can be and will always be striving for improvement in every aspect of British life.
I agree with what you say. People who call themselves patriots sometimes even support the government when they do things which go against the country's interests. I have seen some claims recently that this is the difference between a patriot and nationalist. These claims say that a patriot won't do something like this and only a nationalist would do it. It becomes a discussion of what terminology to use then.
But the original post is about bigotry. Again, something that a patriot is more likely to do but not correct as a blanket statement. In my opinion, it boils down to what the person defines as a country. Is it the people or the government or just the boundary? People who call themselves patriots react differently to different scenarios based on what they answer to the above question."Interesting post. I guess to me, it's the people I care about. The terminology is a weird one. I don't know which word means which. Anyone who wants the country to be the best it can be, is okay in my book. Spending time being critical of people who strive for a better Britain, seems pointless and lazy. | |||
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"Paraphrased from a 60's satirical magazine... See the Patriot. Hear him preach how he loves his country. Hear him preach how much he hates "Liberals"... And "Moderates"... and "Intellectuals"... And "Minority Groups"... and "Immigrants"... And "Unions"... and "Teenagers"... And the "Very Rich"... and the "Very Poor"... And "People with Foreign-Sounding Names". Now you know what a Patriot is. He's someone who loves his country, While hating 93% of the people who live there. So, satire aside, would you say it’s a bad thing to be a patriot? I think it depends on who and why they think they are a patriot, you get idiotic football hooligans who think they are being patriotic by singing offensive songs and smashing up other countries , fortunately they are a tiny minority yes a tiny minority but you still pointed them out rather than the majority who sing none offensive songs typical you lol" Your missing the point, these idiots think they are patriots, so thinking you are one can be good and bad, | |||
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"The OPs original post is a classic piece of satire directed at the conflict between people who profess to being patriots while actually being nationalists (yes, there is a difference!) and the dogmatism of the USB kid on here is a classic example of being unable to concede that you may have missed the point or are wilfully doing so!
Still haven't received an answer for my question on this thread. Neither did I get a logical answer for my USB question. Maybe a little less patronising and little more rational thinking would help you folks.
You have a couple of questions on here, which one in particular wasn't answered?
Their excuse is that the original post is not a blanket statement on all patriots. I don't agree with that. So I said if I take the exact post, replace patriot with any of their favourite groups, trans activists for example and the middle lines as they indulge in vandalism and violence, would it be fine? If it's not a blanket statement as they claim, then what I suggested should also be fine because some activists did indulge in vandalism.
The only response I got was that I was a transphobe.
Are you saying any group of people can be classed as patriots? I'm not following your reasoning, if that is the case.
By blanket statement, I meant that the original post implied all patriots are bigots. For me, the statement "Now you know what a Patriot is." shows it's about all patriots and calls them all to be bigoted. While there could indeed be some correlation between patriotism and bigotry, I don't believe a blanket statement is factually correct. Some others seem to deny it's a blanket statement in the first place.
It's not correct as a blanket statement.
In my experience "patriotic" people are more likely to attack anyone who thinks that we can get better as a country,anyone who is critical of the government or government policy, etc. Which seems to be the opposite behaviour of someone who loves the country. Because someone who truly does, wants to country to be the best it can be and will always be striving for improvement in every aspect of British life. in your experience lol who the fuck doesn’t want the U.K. to be the best it can be just because someone as different beliefs and opinions to you doesn’t mean they don’t want what’s best for there country People having different opinions is a great thing it shows we not all sheep "Good example. Thank you. | |||
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"Anyone who wants the country to be the best it can be, is okay in my book." I doubt that. Some people's ideas of what is 'best' are unlikely to match up with yours. | |||
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"Anyone who wants the country to be the best it can be, is okay in my book. I doubt that. Some people's ideas of what is 'best' are unlikely to match up with yours." Interesting. If they have different opinions, but still want what's best for the country, I'm behind them. You can discuss things. But people who want to destroy the environment as quickly as possible, or blame immigrants for everything. Do they really want what's best for the country, or are they just parroting nonsense because they can't be arsed to actually think about things? I'd argue that there is a difference. | |||
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"Anyone who wants the country to be the best it can be, is okay in my book. I doubt that. Some people's ideas of what is 'best' are unlikely to match up with yours. Interesting. If they have different opinions, but still want what's best for the country, I'm behind them. You can discuss things. But people who want to destroy the environment as quickly as possible, or blame immigrants for everything. Do they really want what's best for the country, or are they just parroting nonsense because they can't be arsed to actually think about things? I'd argue that there is a difference." id agree if that was the case but who the hell want to destroy the environment or blame immigrants for everything then ? Or is this something you want to believe but have no evidence | |||
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"Anyone who wants the country to be the best it can be, is okay in my book. I doubt that. Some people's ideas of what is 'best' are unlikely to match up with yours. Interesting. If they have different opinions, but still want what's best for the country, I'm behind them. You can discuss things. But people who want to destroy the environment as quickly as possible, or blame immigrants for everything. Do they really want what's best for the country, or are they just parroting nonsense because they can't be arsed to actually think about things? I'd argue that there is a difference.id agree if that was the case but who the hell want to destroy the environment or blame immigrants for everything then ? Or is this something you want to believe but have no evidence " Have you heard of UKIP? | |||
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"Anyone who wants the country to be the best it can be, is okay in my book. I doubt that. Some people's ideas of what is 'best' are unlikely to match up with yours. Interesting. If they have different opinions, but still want what's best for the country, I'm behind them. You can discuss things. But people who want to destroy the environment as quickly as possible, or blame immigrants for everything. Do they really want what's best for the country, or are they just parroting nonsense because they can't be arsed to actually think about things? I'd argue that there is a difference.id agree if that was the case but who the hell want to destroy the environment or blame immigrants for everything then ? Or is this something you want to believe but have no evidence Have you heard of UKIP?" yes thanks did the 4 million people who voted for them all want to destroy the environment and blame immigrants for everything ? | |||
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"Anyone who wants the country to be the best it can be, is okay in my book. I doubt that. Some people's ideas of what is 'best' are unlikely to match up with yours. Interesting. If they have different opinions, but still want what's best for the country, I'm behind them. You can discuss things. But people who want to destroy the environment as quickly as possible, or blame immigrants for everything. Do they really want what's best for the country, or are they just parroting nonsense because they can't be arsed to actually think about things? I'd argue that there is a difference.id agree if that was the case but who the hell want to destroy the environment or blame immigrants for everything then ? Or is this something you want to believe but have no evidence Have you heard of UKIP? yes thanks did the 4 million people who voted for them all want to destroy the environment and blame immigrants for everything ?" Well the voted for the Anti-Environment Anti-Immigrtion party... you tell me | |||
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"Anyone who wants the country to be the best it can be, is okay in my book. I doubt that. Some people's ideas of what is 'best' are unlikely to match up with yours. Interesting. If they have different opinions, but still want what's best for the country, I'm behind them. You can discuss things. But people who want to destroy the environment as quickly as possible, or blame immigrants for everything. Do they really want what's best for the country, or are they just parroting nonsense because they can't be arsed to actually think about things? I'd argue that there is a difference.id agree if that was the case but who the hell want to destroy the environment or blame immigrants for everything then ? Or is this something you want to believe but have no evidence Have you heard of UKIP? yes thanks did the 4 million people who voted for them all want to destroy the environment and blame immigrants for everything ? Well the voted for the Anti-Environment Anti-Immigrtion party... you tell me" maybe they just wanted out of the eu | |||
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"Well the voted for the Anti-Environment Anti-Immigrtion party... you tell me" maybe they just wanted out of the eu" So you are saying their Hard On for leaving the EU out weighed their concerns for the environment or immigrants... Sounds like a solid argument to me | |||
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