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"Oh shit …
Who do you want from that shower of shit  "I refer you to my opening post | |||
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"Oh shit …
Who do you want from that shower of shit "I think they should decide via ThunderDome rules... | |||
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"Oh shit …
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I refer you to my opening post "Oh shit as in oh shit they're shit.. Or oh shit one was so shit they've probably said goodbye to the keys to number 10.. | |||
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"Oh shit …
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I refer you to my opening post "Oh shit could refer to any of them, but particularly to Liz Oh Shit Truss | |||
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"Oh shit …
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Oh shit could refer to any of them, but particularly to Liz Oh Shit Truss "Surely you mean Liz 'i faced Putin down'..? Was it when she met Lavrov and didn't know what she was talking about? She is shit mind .. | |||
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"Oh shit …
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I think they should decide via ThunderDome rules..."Drop them all in Rwanda with no papers or money. First one back gets the job. | |||
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Drop them all in Rwanda with no papers or money. First one back gets the job."My only issue with this plan is they will then have first hand experience on ways to make immigration harder... | |||
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"Oh shit …
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Oh shit could refer to any of them, but particularly to Liz Oh Shit Truss
Surely you mean Liz 'i faced Putin down'..?
Was it when she met Lavrov and didn't know what she was talking about?
She is shit mind .."She could be the PM by September, what a terrifying thought, at least Boris will be relieved, his reign as the worst ever PM will be short lived | |||
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"Oh shit …
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Oh shit could refer to any of them, but particularly to Liz Oh Shit Truss
Surely you mean Liz 'i faced Putin down'..?
Was it when she met Lavrov and didn't know what she was talking about?
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She could be the PM by September, what a terrifying thought, at least Boris will be relieved, his reign as the worst ever PM will be short lived "I still want him properly scrutinized over spending the night with a former KGB officer the day after he was discussing Russia's actions in Crimea and novichok poisoning on our soil without any staff or security present.. Makes Profumo look a bit tame .. | |||
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"Oh shit …
Who do you want from that shower of shit
I refer you to my opening post
Oh shit could refer to any of them, but particularly to Liz Oh Shit Truss
Surely you mean Liz 'i faced Putin down'..?
Was it when she met Lavrov and didn't know what she was talking about?
She is shit mind ..
She could be the PM by September, what a terrifying thought, at least Boris will be relieved, his reign as the worst ever PM will be short lived
I still want him properly scrutinized over spending the night with a former KGB officer the day after he was discussing Russia's actions in Crimea and novichok poisoning on our soil without any staff or security present..
Makes Profumo look a bit tame .."I think that will be the next shit storm, there is plenty more coming his way, especially as he will have no allies in the next government | |||
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Oh shit as in oh shit they're shit..
Or oh shit one was so shit they've probably said goodbye to the keys to number 10..
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"Echo chamber again, all left wing comments, another lack of balance. I’ve said it before, will say it again, the forum is overrun by the left" Which one of those taking part in the debate tonight would you choose? | |||
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"Echo chamber again, all left wing comments, another lack of balance. I’ve said it before, will say it again, the forum is overrun by the left Which one of those taking part in the debate tonight would you choose?" I’m watching SVU, they will pick their next leader, not me. My choice would be no more than an indulgent punt. Kemi Badenoch is my preferred choice but as I said, I have no say in the matter | |||
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"Echo chamber again, all left wing comments, another lack of balance. I’ve said it before, will say it again, the forum is overrun by the left" 1. Why are you implying that only those on the left are critical of the absolute dross in line for next PM? Bit of a silly remark. 2. It's a matter of perspective. To me, these forums are dominated by right and far right people. | |||
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"Echo chamber again, all left wing comments, another lack of balance. I’ve said it before, will say it again, the forum is overrun by the left" PMSL, why don’t you readdress the balance and give us your right wing view | |||
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"Imagine being pork markets cheese disgrace rising at the dispatch box for her first pmq's, she'd even be savaged by the Chuckle brother who isn't alive anymore " And what is going off with her arms? She makes Theresa May’s Maybot dance look natural | |||
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"Echo chamber again, all left wing comments, another lack of balance. I’ve said it before, will say it again, the forum is overrun by the left 1. Why are you implying that only those on the left are critical of the absolute dross in line for next PM? Bit of a silly remark. 2. It's a matter of perspective. To me, these forums are dominated by right and far right people. " I refuse to answer your questions, you come across as the Grand Inquisitor and I doubt you would engage in polite conversation with someone of my political stamp. I’ve seen your responses on other posts and you hector those on the other side. You have a bright mind but a mean, intolerant streak towards those on the other side. | |||
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"Echo chamber again, all left wing comments, another lack of balance. I’ve said it before, will say it again, the forum is overrun by the left 1. Why are you implying that only those on the left are critical of the absolute dross in line for next PM? Bit of a silly remark. 2. It's a matter of perspective. To me, these forums are dominated by right and far right people. I refuse to answer your questions, you come across as the Grand Inquisitor and I doubt you would engage in polite conversation with someone of my political stamp. I’ve seen your responses on other posts and you hector those on the other side. You have a bright mind but a mean, intolerant streak towards those on the other side." Lol. I enjoyed your irony here, but I do respect your refusal to answer. It is a public forum, and we are free to ask questions though. | |||
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"Echo chamber again, all left wing comments, another lack of balance. I’ve said it before, will say it again, the forum is overrun by the left PMSL, why don’t you readdress the balance and give us your right wing view " PMSL? With such an opening gambit, I best not bother. I’ll leave you all to continue to slag off the Tories, it is your right and pointless trying to engage. Enjoy your evening | |||
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"Imagine being pork markets cheese disgrace rising at the dispatch box for her first pmq's, she'd even be savaged by the Chuckle brother who isn't alive anymore And what is going off with her arms? She makes Theresa May’s Maybot dance look natural " Can anyone explain what the points of the above posts are? I'm not getting the language or quotes being used, what am I missing? | |||
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"Echo chamber again, all left wing comments, another lack of balance. I’ve said it before, will say it again, the forum is overrun by the left PMSL, why don’t you readdress the balance and give us your right wing view PMSL? With such an opening gambit, I best not bother. I’ll leave you all to continue to slag off the Tories, it is your right and pointless trying to engage. Enjoy your evening " You should lighten up a little, you seem uptight . You have to laugh at the tories , they are providing so much comedy | |||
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"Echo chamber again, all left wing comments, another lack of balance. I’ve said it before, will say it again, the forum is overrun by the left 1. Why are you implying that only those on the left are critical of the absolute dross in line for next PM? Bit of a silly remark. 2. It's a matter of perspective. To me, these forums are dominated by right and far right people. I refuse to answer your questions, you come across as the Grand Inquisitor and I doubt you would engage in polite conversation with someone of my political stamp. I’ve seen your responses on other posts and you hector those on the other side. You have a bright mind but a mean, intolerant streak towards those on the other side. Lol. I enjoyed your irony here, but I do respect your refusal to answer. It is a public forum, and we are free to ask questions though. " If I’ve been ironic it is certainly not by design as I lack the intellect of the super clever left. Best I crawl back under my rock and stick to being a thick Daily Mail xenophobe. I should know my place by now | |||
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"Echo chamber again, all left wing comments, another lack of balance. I’ve said it before, will say it again, the forum is overrun by the left 1. Why are you implying that only those on the left are critical of the absolute dross in line for next PM? Bit of a silly remark. 2. It's a matter of perspective. To me, these forums are dominated by right and far right people. I refuse to answer your questions, you come across as the Grand Inquisitor and I doubt you would engage in polite conversation with someone of my political stamp. I’ve seen your responses on other posts and you hector those on the other side. You have a bright mind but a mean, intolerant streak towards those on the other side. Lol. I enjoyed your irony here, but I do respect your refusal to answer. It is a public forum, and we are free to ask questions though. If I’ve been ironic it is certainly not by design as I lack the intellect of the super clever left. Best I crawl back under my rock and stick to being a thick Daily Mail xenophobe. I should know my place by now" Or you could present your ‘right wing ‘ views as a counterbalance to the perceived left wing bias on here , if you have any ? | |||
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"Echo chamber again, all left wing comments, another lack of balance. I’ve said it before, will say it again, the forum is overrun by the left 1. Why are you implying that only those on the left are critical of the absolute dross in line for next PM? Bit of a silly remark. 2. It's a matter of perspective. To me, these forums are dominated by right and far right people. I refuse to answer your questions, you come across as the Grand Inquisitor and I doubt you would engage in polite conversation with someone of my political stamp. I’ve seen your responses on other posts and you hector those on the other side. You have a bright mind but a mean, intolerant streak towards those on the other side. Lol. I enjoyed your irony here, but I do respect your refusal to answer. It is a public forum, and we are free to ask questions though. If I’ve been ironic it is certainly not by design as I lack the intellect of the super clever left. Best I crawl back under my rock and stick to being a thick Daily Mail xenophobe. I should know my place by now" You've lost me. | |||
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"Imagine being pork markets cheese disgrace rising at the dispatch box for her first pmq's, she'd even be savaged by the Chuckle brother who isn't alive anymore And what is going off with her arms? She makes Theresa May’s Maybot dance look natural Can anyone explain what the points of the above posts are? I'm not getting the language or quotes being used, what am I missing?" Liz truss , ‘pork market and cheese’ speech Liz truss keeps doing weird things with her arms like she is a puppet on a string | |||
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"Imagine being pork markets cheese disgrace rising at the dispatch box for her first pmq's, she'd even be savaged by the Chuckle brother who isn't alive anymore And what is going off with her arms? She makes Theresa May’s Maybot dance look natural Can anyone explain what the points of the above posts are? I'm not getting the language or quotes being used, what am I missing? Liz truss , ‘pork market and cheese’ speech Liz truss keeps doing weird things with her arms like she is a puppet on a string " I will look into that speech, thanks | |||
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"Echo chamber again, all left wing comments, another lack of balance. I’ve said it before, will say it again, the forum is overrun by the left 1. Why are you implying that only those on the left are critical of the absolute dross in line for next PM? Bit of a silly remark. 2. It's a matter of perspective. To me, these forums are dominated by right and far right people. I refuse to answer your questions, you come across as the Grand Inquisitor and I doubt you would engage in polite conversation with someone of my political stamp. I’ve seen your responses on other posts and you hector those on the other side. You have a bright mind but a mean, intolerant streak towards those on the other side. Lol. I enjoyed your irony here, but I do respect your refusal to answer. It is a public forum, and we are free to ask questions though. If I’ve been ironic it is certainly not by design as I lack the intellect of the super clever left. Best I crawl back under my rock and stick to being a thick Daily Mail xenophobe. I should know my place by now Or you could present your ‘right wing ‘ views as a counterbalance to the perceived left wing bias on here , if you have any ? " A kind offer and appreciated but I will respectfully decline, the tone has been set. I will lock horns with you all when the manner we all exchange our opinions encourage polite debate and a respect for each other’s take (without vitriol). Thank you and again, enjoy your evening | |||
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"Imagine being pork markets cheese disgrace rising at the dispatch box for her first pmq's, she'd even be savaged by the Chuckle brother who isn't alive anymore And what is going off with her arms? She makes Theresa May’s Maybot dance look natural Can anyone explain what the points of the above posts are? I'm not getting the language or quotes being used, what am I missing?" The current foreign secretary hair pulling the former chancellor in a satire so bastardised that the offspring of Peter Cook and Armando Ianucci couldn't imagine it in a fevered (cheese) dream | |||
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"Echo chamber again, all left wing comments, another lack of balance. I’ve said it before, will say it again, the forum is overrun by the left 1. Why are you implying that only those on the left are critical of the absolute dross in line for next PM? Bit of a silly remark. 2. It's a matter of perspective. To me, these forums are dominated by right and far right people. I refuse to answer your questions, you come across as the Grand Inquisitor and I doubt you would engage in polite conversation with someone of my political stamp. I’ve seen your responses on other posts and you hector those on the other side. You have a bright mind but a mean, intolerant streak towards those on the other side. Lol. I enjoyed your irony here, but I do respect your refusal to answer. It is a public forum, and we are free to ask questions though. If I’ve been ironic it is certainly not by design as I lack the intellect of the super clever left. Best I crawl back under my rock and stick to being a thick Daily Mail xenophobe. I should know my place by now Or you could present your ‘right wing ‘ views as a counterbalance to the perceived left wing bias on here , if you have any ? A kind offer and appreciated but I will respectfully decline, the tone has been set. I will lock horns with you all when the manner we all exchange our opinions encourage polite debate and a respect for each other’s take (without vitriol). Thank you and again, enjoy your evening " I bid you farewell | |||
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"Echo chamber again, all left wing comments, another lack of balance. I’ve said it before, will say it again, the forum is overrun by the left" Sometimes its funny watching the turkeys shouting for Xmas. | |||
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"Echo chamber again, all left wing comments, another lack of balance. I’ve said it before, will say it again, the forum is overrun by the left Sometimes its funny watching the turkeys shouting for Xmas. "Find the one thread where people on the left are mocking the tories and claim the entire forum is overrun by the Left! | |||
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"Echo chamber again, all left wing comments, another lack of balance. I’ve said it before, will say it again, the forum is overrun by the left Sometimes its funny watching the turkeys shouting for Xmas.
Find the one thread where people on the left are mocking the tories and claim the entire forum is overrun by the Left!"Still think it's silly to suggest that only those on the left are displeased with the options for next PM. The assumption that everyone else is happy with this bunch of narcissists, is pretty insulting. | |||
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"Echo chamber again, all left wing comments, another lack of balance. I’ve said it before, will say it again, the forum is overrun by the left Sometimes its funny watching the turkeys shouting for Xmas.
Find the one thread where people on the left are mocking the tories and claim the entire forum is overrun by the Left!
Still think it's silly to suggest that only those on the left are displeased with the options for next PM. The assumption that everyone else is happy with this bunch of narcissists, is pretty insulting."I don't think the right is happy, they may be less inclined to openly mock the process though... | |||
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"Which one of the candidates has the best voting record? I looked through, they're all pretty similar, voting against gay rights, voting for austerity, voting against measures to tackle climate change etc. " TBF most will vote with the whip if they are politicians with ambition... It's what they say more that's interesting. I'm not a Tory but have redirect for most Tory leaders... Even May and Thatcher... But none of these (nor Boris) have any real quality. If I was a Tory I'd fear. Bthwy always used to either have a strong party or a voteable leader.... For the first time in a long time they have neither ... | |||
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"Echo chamber again, all left wing comments, another lack of balance. I’ve said it before, will say it again, the forum is overrun by the left" Hi. You raise a very interesting and valid point. If you were to analyse how often people are logged on , how often they post and the times at which the posts are made you would find that the majority are from the left. ( the Liberal left whose liberal beliefs rapidly disappear should you disagree with anything they say) . There are at least two posters who appear to be constantly logged on and comment on every single topic | |||
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"Echo chamber again, all left wing comments, another lack of balance. I’ve said it before, will say it again, the forum is overrun by the left Hi. You raise a very interesting and valid point. If you were to analyse how often people are logged on , how often they post and the times at which the posts are made you would find that the majority are from the left. ( the Liberal left whose liberal beliefs rapidly disappear should you disagree with anything they say) . There are at least two posters who appear to be constantly logged on and comment on every single topic " Then Prove It | |||
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"Echo chamber again, all left wing comments, another lack of balance. I’ve said it before, will say it again, the forum is overrun by the left Hi. You raise a very interesting and valid point. If you were to analyse how often people are logged on , how often they post and the times at which the posts are made you would find that the majority are from the left. ( the Liberal left whose liberal beliefs rapidly disappear should you disagree with anything they say) . There are at least two posters who appear to be constantly logged on and comment on every single topic " So the majority are pesky lefties. But also that's just two people. I'm beginning to doubt your analytical skills. | |||
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"Echo chamber again, all left wing comments, another lack of balance. I’ve said it before, will say it again, the forum is overrun by the left Hi. You raise a very interesting and valid point. If you were to analyse how often people are logged on , how often they post and the times at which the posts are made you would find that the majority are from the left. ( the Liberal left whose liberal beliefs rapidly disappear should you disagree with anything they say) . There are at least two posters who appear to be constantly logged on and comment on every single topic " Are they paid Russian bots..? Though to be fair the Tory supporters are lying low at the moment, can't really blame them. Or maybe they are all away on holiday with their riches. While the poor lefties all here at home with nothing better to do.. | |||
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"Echo chamber again, all left wing comments, another lack of balance. I’ve said it before, will say it again, the forum is overrun by the left" You don't need to be left wing to see that the Fatuous Five are intellectual and political midgets. Daft, deluded and dangerous the lot of them | |||
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"Echo chamber again, all left wing comments, another lack of balance. I’ve said it before, will say it again, the forum is overrun by the left Hi. You raise a very interesting and valid point. If you were to analyse how often people are logged on , how often they post and the times at which the posts are made you would find that the majority are from the left. ( the Liberal left whose liberal beliefs rapidly disappear should you disagree with anything they say) . There are at least two posters who appear to be constantly logged on and comment on every single topic " And some posters even end up deleting their profile and re-spawning as an entirely new entity after they have soiled and embarrassed themselves so humiliatingly on here. What does it say about the fragility of the right wing ego that they have multiple profiles to try to ensure that their most ultimately fake one (the sex profile) is not tainted by their true personality (the ever changing political profile)? Not naming any names but I can think of two profiles that soil themselves frequently in the politics forum and one of which will almost inevitably end up deleted in the coming weeks and months as Boris Johnson’s true legacy starts to become public information and their posting history and hero worshipping of him looks at bit ridiculous. | |||
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I refer you to my opening post
Oh shit could refer to any of them, but particularly to Liz Oh Shit Truss
Surely you mean Liz 'i faced Putin down'..?
Was it when she met Lavrov and didn't know what she was talking about?
She is shit mind ..
She could be the PM by September, what a terrifying thought, at least Boris will be relieved, his reign as the worst ever PM will be short lived
I still want him properly scrutinized over spending the night with a former KGB officer the day after he was discussing Russia's actions in Crimea and novichok poisoning on our soil without any staff or security present..
Makes Profumo look a bit tame ..
I think that will be the next shit storm, there is plenty more coming his way, especially as he will have no allies in the next government "He may have no allies but his financial backers are the same as theirs so don’t be too sure we will learn anything new including why the Russia enquiry is being kept quiet or outside financial interests has been dumped. Putin has more than one puppet. The sad thing is they maybe don’t know they are puppets and are blinded by the wealth. Liz taking a private jet to Australia (£350k) and having £3k lunches like a spoiled brat. | |||
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"Echo chamber again, all left wing comments, another lack of balance. I’ve said it before, will say it again, the forum is overrun by the left Hi. You raise a very interesting and valid point. If you were to analyse how often people are logged on , how often they post and the times at which the posts are made you would find that the majority are from the left. ( the Liberal left whose liberal beliefs rapidly disappear should you disagree with anything they say) . There are at least two posters who appear to be constantly logged on and comment on every single topic " How do you know they are constantly logged on? | |||
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"The sad truth is that of all the available Conservative MP's the ones left are the only ones that have a hope of getting enough votes from Conservative members. We couldn't give a monkeys about any of them. We'd prefer anyone but Rishi at first but if we think about it...would it really be that different if it wasn't him? It's not just which politicians are in power that affects the running of the country. The civil service is not elected but can have a massive impact on government advice and implementation of actions. If they don't like something they can just throw blockers in the way." Your comment on the Civil Service is completely wrong. That is not at all how it works (except in newspaper editors minds). The CS provide impartial advice based on risk analysis and due diligence (ie if you do X then Y is likely to happen). Ministers regularly overrule or ignore this advice and plough ahead with policy X and almost always Y is the result. The politicians (all parties) then blame the CS. | |||
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"Echo chamber again, all left wing comments, another lack of balance. I’ve said it before, will say it again, the forum is overrun by the left Hi. You raise a very interesting and valid point. If you were to analyse how often people are logged on , how often they post and the times at which the posts are made you would find that the majority are from the left. ( the Liberal left whose liberal beliefs rapidly disappear should you disagree with anything they say) . There are at least two posters who appear to be constantly logged on and comment on every single topic " You've had umpteen profiles over several years Pat, strangely enough many of which have talked of various different experiences in several fields with which you coincidentally have anecdotal evidence whatever the subject happens to be.. It's quite inspiring or perhaps a mystery how one person can be so many different profiles at the same time? | |||
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"Echo chamber again, all left wing comments, another lack of balance. I’ve said it before, will say it again, the forum is overrun by the left Hi. You raise a very interesting and valid point. If you were to analyse how often people are logged on , how often they post and the times at which the posts are made you would find that the majority are from the left. ( the Liberal left whose liberal beliefs rapidly disappear should you disagree with anything they say) . There are at least two posters who appear to be constantly logged on and comment on every single topic So the majority are pesky lefties. But also that's just two people. I'm beginning to doubt your analytical skills. " Two? Are you saying the rest of us pesky lefties don't count? LOL | |||
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"Echo chamber again, all left wing comments, another lack of balance. I’ve said it before, will say it again, the forum is overrun by the left Hi. You raise a very interesting and valid point. If you were to analyse how often people are logged on , how often they post and the times at which the posts are made you would find that the majority are from the left. ( the Liberal left whose liberal beliefs rapidly disappear should you disagree with anything they say) . There are at least two posters who appear to be constantly logged on and comment on every single topic You've had umpteen profiles over several years Pat, strangely enough many of which have talked of various different experiences in several fields with which you coincidentally have anecdotal evidence whatever the subject happens to be.. It's quite inspiring or perhaps a mystery how one person can be so many different profiles at the same time?" He is like his hero Boris, economical with the truth | |||
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I think they should decide via ThunderDome rules...
Drop them all in Rwanda with no papers or money. First one back gets the job.
My only issue with this plan is they will then have first hand experience on ways to make immigration harder..."What’s wrong with that? | |||
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"Sunak + Truss pulled out of the next debate, so it's now been cancelled. Pulling out is a skill Johnson never learned. So they've bettered him there." What is the point of a TV debate when it’s only 200k or so Conservative party members that actually vote? | |||
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"Sunak + Truss pulled out of the next debate, so it's now been cancelled. Pulling out is a skill Johnson never learned. So they've bettered him there. What is the point of a TV debate when it’s only 200k or so Conservative party members that actually vote? " Vanity. Arrogance. Circus entertainment. Take your pick. | |||
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"Sunak + Truss pulled out of the next debate, so it's now been cancelled. Pulling out is a skill Johnson never learned. So they've bettered him there." For the Tories it's rather 'unedifying', Truss has been bettered by Sunak in both debates (according to several much more qualified political journalists than I) and she's probably been told to pull out to lessen the damage.. Her dressing like Thatcher does look weird, unless the middle aged woman look is in fashion.. | |||
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"Echo chamber again, all left wing comments, another lack of balance. I’ve said it before, will say it again, the forum is overrun by the left Hi. You raise a very interesting and valid point. If you were to analyse how often people are logged on , how often they post and the times at which the posts are made you would find that the majority are from the left. ( the Liberal left whose liberal beliefs rapidly disappear should you disagree with anything they say) . There are at least two posters who appear to be constantly logged on and comment on every single topic " Twaddle (it may be there is a left leaning slant but your reasoning is twaddle). The advent of smart phones means we are always connected. Time of day is probably a reference to it being during work time. Again twaddle. The world has changed and time of day is irrelevant. Self employed. Business owner. Working from home. Shift work. etc etc The standard 9-5 is a very old fashioned view of the world. | |||
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"I am astounded by the lack of self awareness or understanding of their own abilities. I mean seriously, does/did Liz Truss truly believe she has what it takes to be PM? Incredible!" Be interesting to see if some of her support starts to dwindle, several polls have her as second from bottom or bottom after the two debates.. | |||
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"I am astounded by the lack of self awareness or understanding of their own abilities. I mean seriously, does/did Liz Truss truly believe she has what it takes to be PM? Incredible!" Seriously! I don't think any of them are truly upto the job. At this point it kind of feels like we are watching the method by which our abusers are going to torment us over the next few years and nothing more. | |||
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"Sunak + Truss pulled out of the next debate, so it's now been cancelled. Pulling out is a skill Johnson never learned. So they've bettered him there. For the Tories it's rather 'unedifying', Truss has been bettered by Sunak in both debates (according to several much more qualified political journalists than I) and she's probably been told to pull out to lessen the damage.. Her dressing like Thatcher does look weird, unless the middle aged woman look is in fashion.. " Her Thatcher cosplay is bonkers. Truss has dressed as Thatcher quite a few times now. Very odd... | |||
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"Sunak + Truss pulled out of the next debate, so it's now been cancelled. Pulling out is a skill Johnson never learned. So they've bettered him there." Couldn't stand the heat. Got out of the kitchen. They're pathetic -and well over half of UK voters know it. We really need to scrap FPTP, to restore democracy to the UK - and keep these arseholes (or any others) from gaining a majority in Parliament - that they do not deserve - ever again. How can you unite a country when over half of its voters think you and your enablers are all cunts? | |||
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"Sunak + Truss pulled out of the next debate, so it's now been cancelled. Pulling out is a skill Johnson never learned. So they've bettered him there. Couldn't stand the heat. Got out of the kitchen. They're pathetic -and well over half of UK voters know it. We really need to scrap FPTP, to restore democracy to the UK - and keep these arseholes (or any others) from gaining a majority in Parliament - that they do not deserve - ever again. How can you unite a country when over half of its voters think you and your enablers are all cunts? " Step 1. Vote for whoever can beat the Tory in your constituency. Step 2. scrap FPTP and introduce proportional rep. Step 3. never have a Tory led government again! | |||
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"I am astounded by the lack of self awareness or understanding of their own abilities. I mean seriously, does/did Liz Truss truly believe she has what it takes to be PM? Incredible!" Liz Truss (born 1976) "I saw children being let down when I was at school and that's why I became a Conservative." So Liz Truss attended school between 1981 and 1992... | |||
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"Sunak + Truss pulled out of the next debate, so it's now been cancelled. Pulling out is a skill Johnson never learned. So they've bettered him there. Couldn't stand the heat. Got out of the kitchen. They're pathetic -and well over half of UK voters know it. We really need to scrap FPTP, to restore democracy to the UK - and keep these arseholes (or any others) from gaining a majority in Parliament - that they do not deserve - ever again. How can you unite a country when over half of its voters think you and your enablers are all cunts? Step 1. Vote for whoever can beat the Tory in your constituency. Step 2. scrap FPTP and introduce proportional rep. Step 3. never have a Tory led government again!" What happens when the new party that takes office also does not want to scrap FPTP | |||
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"Sunak + Truss pulled out of the next debate, so it's now been cancelled. Pulling out is a skill Johnson never learned. So they've bettered him there. Couldn't stand the heat. Got out of the kitchen. They're pathetic -and well over half of UK voters know it. We really need to scrap FPTP, to restore democracy to the UK - and keep these arseholes (or any others) from gaining a majority in Parliament - that they do not deserve - ever again. How can you unite a country when over half of its voters think you and your enablers are all cunts? Step 1. Vote for whoever can beat the Tory in your constituency. Step 2. scrap FPTP and introduce proportional rep. Step 3. never have a Tory led government again! What happens when the new party that takes office also does not want to scrap FPTP" It is in the interest of every party but the tories to change it.... | |||
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"Echo chamber again, all left wing comments, another lack of balance. I’ve said it before, will say it again, the forum is overrun by the left Hi. You raise a very interesting and valid point. If you were to analyse how often people are logged on , how often they post and the times at which the posts are made you would find that the majority are from the left. ( the Liberal left whose liberal beliefs rapidly disappear should you disagree with anything they say) . There are at least two posters who appear to be constantly logged on and comment on every single topic How do you know they are constantly logged on? " When you close the fridge door how do you know the light goes out? | |||
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"I am astounded by the lack of self awareness or understanding of their own abilities. I mean seriously, does/did Liz Truss truly believe she has what it takes to be PM? Incredible! Liz Truss (born 1976) "I saw children being let down when I was at school and that's why I became a Conservative." So Liz Truss attended school between 1981 and 1992... " She is as thick as shit | |||
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"Sunak + Truss pulled out of the next debate, so it's now been cancelled. Pulling out is a skill Johnson never learned. So they've bettered him there. Couldn't stand the heat. Got out of the kitchen. They're pathetic -and well over half of UK voters know it. We really need to scrap FPTP, to restore democracy to the UK - and keep these arseholes (or any others) from gaining a majority in Parliament - that they do not deserve - ever again. How can you unite a country when over half of its voters think you and your enablers are all cunts? Step 1. Vote for whoever can beat the Tory in your constituency. Step 2. scrap FPTP and introduce proportional rep. Step 3. never have a Tory led government again! What happens when the new party that takes office also does not want to scrap FPTP It is in the interest of every party but the tories to change it...." Have Labour said they will change it? In reality they are the only ones that can form a new government but I have not heard them say they will scrap FPTP. If they have please share as this would be a pleasant surprise | |||
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"Sunak + Truss pulled out of the next debate, so it's now been cancelled. Pulling out is a skill Johnson never learned. So they've bettered him there. Couldn't stand the heat. Got out of the kitchen. They're pathetic -and well over half of UK voters know it. We really need to scrap FPTP, to restore democracy to the UK - and keep these arseholes (or any others) from gaining a majority in Parliament - that they do not deserve - ever again. How can you unite a country when over half of its voters think you and your enablers are all cunts? Step 1. Vote for whoever can beat the Tory in your constituency. Step 2. scrap FPTP and introduce proportional rep. Step 3. never have a Tory led government again! What happens when the new party that takes office also does not want to scrap FPTP It is in the interest of every party but the tories to change it.... Have Labour said they will change it? In reality they are the only ones that can form a new government but I have not heard them say they will scrap FPTP. If they have please share as this would be a pleasant surprise" I don't know about this Labour party but they have supported electoral reform in the past. | |||
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"Sunak + Truss pulled out of the next debate, so it's now been cancelled. Pulling out is a skill Johnson never learned. So they've bettered him there. Couldn't stand the heat. Got out of the kitchen. They're pathetic -and well over half of UK voters know it. We really need to scrap FPTP, to restore democracy to the UK - and keep these arseholes (or any others) from gaining a majority in Parliament - that they do not deserve - ever again. How can you unite a country when over half of its voters think you and your enablers are all cunts? Step 1. Vote for whoever can beat the Tory in your constituency. Step 2. scrap FPTP and introduce proportional rep. Step 3. never have a Tory led government again! What happens when the new party that takes office also does not want to scrap FPTP It is in the interest of every party but the tories to change it.... Have Labour said they will change it? In reality they are the only ones that can form a new government but I have not heard them say they will scrap FPTP. If they have please share as this would be a pleasant surprise I don't know about this Labour party but they have supported electoral reform in the past." That's a shame as looks like neither of the 2 main parties will change it which is problematic for the 3 step plan. Last time Labour were in government they were there for 3 terms and sometimes with huge majorities. That would have been a good time to get it through, yet as far as I know it was not even attempted. | |||
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"Sunak + Truss pulled out of the next debate, so it's now been cancelled. Pulling out is a skill Johnson never learned. So they've bettered him there. Couldn't stand the heat. Got out of the kitchen. They're pathetic -and well over half of UK voters know it. We really need to scrap FPTP, to restore democracy to the UK - and keep these arseholes (or any others) from gaining a majority in Parliament - that they do not deserve - ever again. How can you unite a country when over half of its voters think you and your enablers are all cunts? Step 1. Vote for whoever can beat the Tory in your constituency. Step 2. scrap FPTP and introduce proportional rep. Step 3. never have a Tory led government again! What happens when the new party that takes office also does not want to scrap FPTP It is in the interest of every party but the tories to change it.... Have Labour said they will change it? In reality they are the only ones that can form a new government but I have not heard them say they will scrap FPTP. If they have please share as this would be a pleasant surprise I don't know about this Labour party but they have supported electoral reform in the past. That's a shame as looks like neither of the 2 main parties will change it which is problematic for the 3 step plan. Last time Labour were in government they were there for 3 terms and sometimes with huge majorities. That would have been a good time to get it through, yet as far as I know it was not even attempted." We were supposed to get an electoral reform referendum when the Lib Dems propped up the Tories but it didn't manifest. | |||
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"I am astounded by the lack of self awareness or understanding of their own abilities. I mean seriously, does/did Liz Truss truly believe she has what it takes to be PM? Incredible! Liz Truss (born 1976) "I saw children being let down when I was at school and that's why I became a Conservative." So Liz Truss attended school between 1981 and 1992... " She's trying to copy the liar she wants to replace.. | |||
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"Sunak + Truss pulled out of the next debate, so it's now been cancelled. Pulling out is a skill Johnson never learned. So they've bettered him there. Couldn't stand the heat. Got out of the kitchen. They're pathetic -and well over half of UK voters know it. We really need to scrap FPTP, to restore democracy to the UK - and keep these arseholes (or any others) from gaining a majority in Parliament - that they do not deserve - ever again. How can you unite a country when over half of its voters think you and your enablers are all cunts? Step 1. Vote for whoever can beat the Tory in your constituency. Step 2. scrap FPTP and introduce proportional rep. Step 3. never have a Tory led government again! What happens when the new party that takes office also does not want to scrap FPTP It is in the interest of every party but the tories to change it.... Have Labour said they will change it? In reality they are the only ones that can form a new government but I have not heard them say they will scrap FPTP. If they have please share as this would be a pleasant surprise I don't know about this Labour party but they have supported electoral reform in the past. That's a shame as looks like neither of the 2 main parties will change it which is problematic for the 3 step plan. Last time Labour were in government they were there for 3 terms and sometimes with huge majorities. That would have been a good time to get it through, yet as far as I know it was not even attempted. We were supposed to get an electoral reform referendum when the Lib Dems propped up the Tories but it didn't manifest." wasn't this the AV referendum. | |||
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"Sunak + Truss pulled out of the next debate, so it's now been cancelled. Pulling out is a skill Johnson never learned. So they've bettered him there. Couldn't stand the heat. Got out of the kitchen. They're pathetic -and well over half of UK voters know it. We really need to scrap FPTP, to restore democracy to the UK - and keep these arseholes (or any others) from gaining a majority in Parliament - that they do not deserve - ever again. How can you unite a country when over half of its voters think you and your enablers are all cunts? Step 1. Vote for whoever can beat the Tory in your constituency. Step 2. scrap FPTP and introduce proportional rep. Step 3. never have a Tory led government again! What happens when the new party that takes office also does not want to scrap FPTP It is in the interest of every party but the tories to change it.... Have Labour said they will change it? In reality they are the only ones that can form a new government but I have not heard them say they will scrap FPTP. If they have please share as this would be a pleasant surprise I don't know about this Labour party but they have supported electoral reform in the past. That's a shame as looks like neither of the 2 main parties will change it which is problematic for the 3 step plan. Last time Labour were in government they were there for 3 terms and sometimes with huge majorities. That would have been a good time to get it through, yet as far as I know it was not even attempted. We were supposed to get an electoral reform referendum when the Lib Dems propped up the Tories but it didn't manifest.wasn't this the AV referendum. "  68% said no thanks | |||
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"Sunak + Truss pulled out of the next debate, so it's now been cancelled. Pulling out is a skill Johnson never learned. So they've bettered him there. Couldn't stand the heat. Got out of the kitchen. They're pathetic -and well over half of UK voters know it. We really need to scrap FPTP, to restore democracy to the UK - and keep these arseholes (or any others) from gaining a majority in Parliament - that they do not deserve - ever again. How can you unite a country when over half of its voters think you and your enablers are all cunts? Step 1. Vote for whoever can beat the Tory in your constituency. Step 2. scrap FPTP and introduce proportional rep. Step 3. never have a Tory led government again! What happens when the new party that takes office also does not want to scrap FPTP It is in the interest of every party but the tories to change it.... Have Labour said they will change it? In reality they are the only ones that can form a new government but I have not heard them say they will scrap FPTP. If they have please share as this would be a pleasant surprise I don't know about this Labour party but they have supported electoral reform in the past. That's a shame as looks like neither of the 2 main parties will change it which is problematic for the 3 step plan. Last time Labour were in government they were there for 3 terms and sometimes with huge majorities. That would have been a good time to get it through, yet as far as I know it was not even attempted. We were supposed to get an electoral reform referendum when the Lib Dems propped up the Tories but it didn't manifest." Yes and the referendum was held. For whatever reason the lib dems caved in on their original demand for PR and instead put forward the AV system as others here have said. So we are in a situation where neither the Tories or Labour are interested in PR and the lib dems sold out to AV which was rejected. Sadly this means that to get PR it is not just a case of voting out the Tories. Don't despair though as there are many many reasons to vote them out | |||
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"Sunak + Truss pulled out of the next debate, so it's now been cancelled. Pulling out is a skill Johnson never learned. So they've bettered him there. Couldn't stand the heat. Got out of the kitchen. They're pathetic -and well over half of UK voters know it. We really need to scrap FPTP, to restore democracy to the UK - and keep these arseholes (or any others) from gaining a majority in Parliament - that they do not deserve - ever again. How can you unite a country when over half of its voters think you and your enablers are all cunts? Step 1. Vote for whoever can beat the Tory in your constituency. Step 2. scrap FPTP and introduce proportional rep. Step 3. never have a Tory led government again! What happens when the new party that takes office also does not want to scrap FPTP It is in the interest of every party but the tories to change it.... Have Labour said they will change it? In reality they are the only ones that can form a new government but I have not heard them say they will scrap FPTP. If they have please share as this would be a pleasant surprise I don't know about this Labour party but they have supported electoral reform in the past. That's a shame as looks like neither of the 2 main parties will change it which is problematic for the 3 step plan. Last time Labour were in government they were there for 3 terms and sometimes with huge majorities. That would have been a good time to get it through, yet as far as I know it was not even attempted. We were supposed to get an electoral reform referendum when the Lib Dems propped up the Tories but it didn't manifest. Yes and the referendum was held. For whatever reason the lib dems caved in on their original demand for PR and instead put forward the AV system as others here have said. So we are in a situation where neither the Tories or Labour are interested in PR and the lib dems sold out to AV which was rejected. Sadly this means that to get PR it is not just a case of voting out the Tories. Don't despair though as there are many many reasons to vote them out" The UK isn't getting PR anytime soon. I'm generally in favour of it. Although I don't see that it's enough to fix the broken system. We need to stop corporate and billionaires sponsoring the parties. It just means they work for them, instead of us. | |||
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"Sunak + Truss pulled out of the next debate, so it's now been cancelled. Pulling out is a skill Johnson never learned. So they've bettered him there. Couldn't stand the heat. Got out of the kitchen. They're pathetic -and well over half of UK voters know it. We really need to scrap FPTP, to restore democracy to the UK - and keep these arseholes (or any others) from gaining a majority in Parliament - that they do not deserve - ever again. How can you unite a country when over half of its voters think you and your enablers are all cunts? Step 1. Vote for whoever can beat the Tory in your constituency. Step 2. scrap FPTP and introduce proportional rep. Step 3. never have a Tory led government again! What happens when the new party that takes office also does not want to scrap FPTP It is in the interest of every party but the tories to change it.... Have Labour said they will change it? In reality they are the only ones that can form a new government but I have not heard them say they will scrap FPTP. If they have please share as this would be a pleasant surprise I don't know about this Labour party but they have supported electoral reform in the past. That's a shame as looks like neither of the 2 main parties will change it which is problematic for the 3 step plan. Last time Labour were in government they were there for 3 terms and sometimes with huge majorities. That would have been a good time to get it through, yet as far as I know it was not even attempted. We were supposed to get an electoral reform referendum when the Lib Dems propped up the Tories but it didn't manifest.wasn't this the AV referendum. 68% said no thanks "They didn’t say no thanks to PR | |||
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"Sunak + Truss pulled out of the next debate, so it's now been cancelled. Pulling out is a skill Johnson never learned. So they've bettered him there. Couldn't stand the heat. Got out of the kitchen. They're pathetic -and well over half of UK voters know it. We really need to scrap FPTP, to restore democracy to the UK - and keep these arseholes (or any others) from gaining a majority in Parliament - that they do not deserve - ever again. How can you unite a country when over half of its voters think you and your enablers are all cunts? Step 1. Vote for whoever can beat the Tory in your constituency. Step 2. scrap FPTP and introduce proportional rep. Step 3. never have a Tory led government again! What happens when the new party that takes office also does not want to scrap FPTP It is in the interest of every party but the tories to change it.... Have Labour said they will change it? In reality they are the only ones that can form a new government but I have not heard them say they will scrap FPTP. If they have please share as this would be a pleasant surprise I don't know about this Labour party but they have supported electoral reform in the past. That's a shame as looks like neither of the 2 main parties will change it which is problematic for the 3 step plan. Last time Labour were in government they were there for 3 terms and sometimes with huge majorities. That would have been a good time to get it through, yet as far as I know it was not even attempted. We were supposed to get an electoral reform referendum when the Lib Dems propped up the Tories but it didn't manifest.wasn't this the AV referendum. 68% said no thanks
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"Sunak + Truss pulled out of the next debate, so it's now been cancelled. Pulling out is a skill Johnson never learned. So they've bettered him there. Couldn't stand the heat. Got out of the kitchen. They're pathetic -and well over half of UK voters know it. We really need to scrap FPTP, to restore democracy to the UK - and keep these arseholes (or any others) from gaining a majority in Parliament - that they do not deserve - ever again. How can you unite a country when over half of its voters think you and your enablers are all cunts? Step 1. Vote for whoever can beat the Tory in your constituency. Step 2. scrap FPTP and introduce proportional rep. Step 3. never have a Tory led government again! What happens when the new party that takes office also does not want to scrap FPTP It is in the interest of every party but the tories to change it.... Have Labour said they will change it? In reality they are the only ones that can form a new government but I have not heard them say they will scrap FPTP. If they have please share as this would be a pleasant surprise I don't know about this Labour party but they have supported electoral reform in the past. That's a shame as looks like neither of the 2 main parties will change it which is problematic for the 3 step plan. Last time Labour were in government they were there for 3 terms and sometimes with huge majorities. That would have been a good time to get it through, yet as far as I know it was not even attempted. We were supposed to get an electoral reform referendum when the Lib Dems propped up the Tories but it didn't manifest.wasn't this the AV referendum. 68% said no thanks
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"Sunak + Truss pulled out of the next debate, so it's now been cancelled. Pulling out is a skill Johnson never learned. So they've bettered him there. Couldn't stand the heat. Got out of the kitchen. They're pathetic -and well over half of UK voters know it. We really need to scrap FPTP, to restore democracy to the UK - and keep these arseholes (or any others) from gaining a majority in Parliament - that they do not deserve - ever again. How can you unite a country when over half of its voters think you and your enablers are all cunts? Step 1. Vote for whoever can beat the Tory in your constituency. Step 2. scrap FPTP and introduce proportional rep. Step 3. never have a Tory led government again! What happens when the new party that takes office also does not want to scrap FPTP It is in the interest of every party but the tories to change it.... Have Labour said they will change it? In reality they are the only ones that can form a new government but I have not heard them say they will scrap FPTP. If they have please share as this would be a pleasant surprise I don't know about this Labour party but they have supported electoral reform in the past. That's a shame as looks like neither of the 2 main parties will change it which is problematic for the 3 step plan. Last time Labour were in government they were there for 3 terms and sometimes with huge majorities. That would have been a good time to get it through, yet as far as I know it was not even attempted." The Labour Party didn't think they needed PR - and they didn't - until they completely fucked up in Scotland. Now, IF they ever get back into power, they'd better reconsider. If - and it's a big if - Scotland ever does become independent; then rUK will become a one-party State, under FPTP - and that Party will be the Tory Party. People in here know that I'm pro-independence. It's because I want to live in a representative democracy - which an independent Scotland would be; just like Germany, Israel and New Zealand are. I am well aware of the various difficulties that would present - but I believe self determination is more important. Certainly, the Tories think it's important for the people of Ukraine and Hong Kong. So, why not us? That said, if the UK had a Parliament elected on a PR basis, everyone's vote would count; including those cast in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. Well, maybe not everyone - Sinn Fein MPs wouldn't take their seats. I would be a lot less keen on independence if I thought my vote had any real influence on the outcome of a UK GE. Right now, it doesn't - and that's true for a lot of English voters, too; depending upon where they live. The status quo causes division and deepens it. Certainly, when it throws up a government the like of which we have now - and will have for at least two more years. | |||
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"Sunak + Truss pulled out of the next debate, so it's now been cancelled. Pulling out is a skill Johnson never learned. So they've bettered him there. Couldn't stand the heat. Got out of the kitchen. They're pathetic -and well over half of UK voters know it. We really need to scrap FPTP, to restore democracy to the UK - and keep these arseholes (or any others) from gaining a majority in Parliament - that they do not deserve - ever again. How can you unite a country when over half of its voters think you and your enablers are all cunts? Step 1. Vote for whoever can beat the Tory in your constituency. Step 2. scrap FPTP and introduce proportional rep. Step 3. never have a Tory led government again! What happens when the new party that takes office also does not want to scrap FPTP It is in the interest of every party but the tories to change it.... Have Labour said they will change it? In reality they are the only ones that can form a new government but I have not heard them say they will scrap FPTP. If they have please share as this would be a pleasant surprise I don't know about this Labour party but they have supported electoral reform in the past. That's a shame as looks like neither of the 2 main parties will change it which is problematic for the 3 step plan. Last time Labour were in government they were there for 3 terms and sometimes with huge majorities. That would have been a good time to get it through, yet as far as I know it was not even attempted. The Labour Party didn't think they needed PR - and they didn't - until they completely fucked up in Scotland. Now, IF they ever get back into power, they'd better reconsider. If - and it's a big if - Scotland ever does become independent; then rUK will become a one-party State, under FPTP - and that Party will be the Tory Party. People in here know that I'm pro-independence. It's because I want to live in a representative democracy - which an independent Scotland would be; just like Germany, Israel and New Zealand are. I am well aware of the various difficulties that would present - but I believe self determination is more important. Certainly, the Tories think it's important for the people of Ukraine and Hong Kong. So, why not us? That said, if the UK had a Parliament elected on a PR basis, everyone's vote would count; including those cast in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. Well, maybe not everyone - Sinn Fein MPs wouldn't take their seats. I would be a lot less keen on independence if I thought my vote had any real influence on the outcome of a UK GE. Right now, it doesn't - and that's true for a lot of English voters, too; depending upon where they live. The status quo causes division and deepens it. Certainly, when it throws up a government the like of which we have now - and will have for at least two more years." PR certainly seems to have a lot of support, myself included but as previously mentioned neither of the 2 main parties seem to even mention it let alone pledge a referendum. The lib dems for whatever reason blew their chance and we ended up with a AV referendum instead. I think one of the problems is that to get into government to be able to change the system you first need to win at FPTP. Once a party has managed that they may be less likely to change the system that put them in office. Somehow the 2 things need separating | |||
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