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"It's been interesting watching Mick Lynch pop up on various media outlets. So far, he's made a fool of MPs, presenters + journalists across the board." Maybe that's because they're all singing the same tune and many folk aren't buying what they're selling anymore. | |||
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"It's been interesting watching Mick Lynch pop up on various media outlets. So far, he's made a fool of MPs, presenters + journalists across the board. Maybe that's because they're all singing the same tune and many folk aren't buying what they're selling anymore." The ones who looked ended up looking especially foolish were trying to get a reaction out of Lynch. And he was having none of it. | |||
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"The ones who looked ended up looking especially foolish were trying to get a reaction out of Lynch. And he was having none of it." Particularly Kay Burley, who was trying to get Lynch to refer to the physical violence seen on picket lines in the 80s. He very cleverly avoided falling into that trap, and she ended up getting all snippy. Well done to him. | |||
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"The ones who looked ended up looking especially foolish were trying to get a reaction out of Lynch. And he was having none of it. Particularly Kay Burley, who was trying to get Lynch to refer to the physical violence seen on picket lines in the 80s. He very cleverly avoided falling into that trap, and she ended up getting all snippy. Well done to him." It was a beauty of a clip. | |||
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"And the tory MP on Newsnight - "That's a lie, that's a lie, you're lying, you're a liar" Plus that gimp Gulis - "I can't negotiate with a backbencher reading from a script" "Oh yes. The liar clip was great. Made a v nice change to see 1 of them called out v clearly as a liar in real time. There's a ridiculous Piers Morgan clip now where Morgan went for a gotcha question in a remarkably stupid way. (Spoiler: it didn't go well.) | |||
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"Let’s hope Kay asks a similar question to the head of the police force? Any horse charges or baton charges. Maybe a few tasers? Absolute car crash of a line of questioning. Lynch just took her legs away. Fun to watch. “What does picketing involve? “. Steps aside “There it is, look”. Brilliant. " Part of me was hoping for him to produce some crayons + draw her a picture when she kept pushing pointlessly. | |||
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"I want to buy Lynch a white cat. He can sit there in a nice leather chair stroking the cat softly saying next please as the journalists queue up outside to take on the beast! Little piles of ash litter the floor marking where the previous journalists just self combusted! " I think the key is he seems to be exactly what he says. Just a working class guy trying to do his best for others. Certain interviewers just can't wrap their minds around that. They want him to be evil or crazy or have some grand plan to tke over the world. So they keep pushing to show him up, but it seems there's nothing to show up. So the interviewers end up looking ridiculous. | |||
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"I just hope he's as clean as can be. Because it seems the media really want to bury him." They will find ‘something’ and if they can’t will resort to making something up | |||
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"I just hope he's as clean as can be. Because it seems the media really want to bury him. They will find ‘something’ and if they can’t will resort to making something up " Many years ago a red top newspapers came to see one of my best friends to question him about an MP’s sexuality . He told them despite being offered cash to bugger off he had nothing to say, As they were leaving they said if he didn’t make a statement then they would make it up. He didn’t give a fuck so just said crack on. They made the story up as they threatened. It seems our media is still in the gutter especially given the Times and Mail retracting true stories about Boris trying to use taxpayers money to give his lover cash. | |||
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"It's been interesting watching Mick Lynch pop up on various media outlets. So far, he's made a fool of MPs, presenters + journalists across the board." . Mick Lynch is highly unlikely to make a fool of anyone. Most people can see him for what he is. A man who has little regard for working class people and fails to recognise how overpaid his members actually are. His demands are totally unjustified and we should be seeking to cut the pay of train drivers . It is hardly a skilled job. Any pay aware made to railway staff has to be financed by ordinary members of the public . With a salary in excess of £120,000 per annum and a £1 million house in Ealing he has little in common with those that he claims to represent. | |||
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"It's been interesting watching Mick Lynch pop up on various media outlets. So far, he's made a fool of MPs, presenters + journalists across the board. . Mick Lynch is highly unlikely to make a fool of anyone. Most people can see him for what he is. A man who has little regard for working class people and fails to recognise how overpaid his members actually are. His demands are totally unjustified and we should be seeking to cut the pay of train drivers . It is hardly a skilled job. Any pay aware made to railway staff has to be financed by ordinary members of the public . With a salary in excess of £120,000 per annum and a £1 million house in Ealing he has little in common with those that he claims to represent. " But it was Boris who promised us a high wage economy. People just want what their great leader promised. | |||
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"It's been interesting watching Mick Lynch pop up on various media outlets. So far, he's made a fool of MPs, presenters + journalists across the board. . Mick Lynch is highly unlikely to make a fool of anyone. Most people can see him for what he is. A man who has little regard for working class people and fails to recognise how overpaid his members actually are. His demands are totally unjustified and we should be seeking to cut the pay of train drivers . It is hardly a skilled job. Any pay aware made to railway staff has to be financed by ordinary members of the public . With a salary in excess of £120,000 per annum and a £1 million house in Ealing he has little in common with those that he claims to represent. " Say that last part out again to yourself... But slowly. | |||
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"It's been interesting watching Mick Lynch pop up on various media outlets. So far, he's made a fool of MPs, presenters + journalists across the board. . Mick Lynch is highly unlikely to make a fool of anyone. Most people can see him for what he is. A man who has little regard for working class people and fails to recognise how overpaid his members actually are. His demands are totally unjustified and we should be seeking to cut the pay of train drivers . It is hardly a skilled job. Any pay aware made to railway staff has to be financed by ordinary members of the public . With a salary in excess of £120,000 per annum and a £1 million house in Ealing he has little in common with those that he claims to represent. " train drivers arent on strike different union .unskilled ? go and apply see how you get on with the phycometric testing before you even get to the interview stage like 1000s of others who apply everytime they are advertised .train drivers have to know usualy at least three different types of traction sometimes a lot more that means intimate technical knowledge of driving techniques and fault finding from memory for each one .each driver will have to learn multiple routes of hundreds of miles again intimately track layouts speed restrictions signals and they're respective routes blackspots for leaf fall and poor railhead conditions and drive his train accordingly day and night rain or shine snow and ice .he has to know emergency procedures in the event of an accident or incident all of witch they will be tested on on a regular basis .but there is no skill in that is there if the job is so easy how come they cant all just be sacked and replaced on the spot ? Oh yeah it takes at least a year to train and impart just the basic knowledge above . | |||
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"It's been interesting watching Mick Lynch pop up on various media outlets. So far, he's made a fool of MPs, presenters + journalists across the board. . Mick Lynch is highly unlikely to make a fool of anyone. Most people can see him for what he is. A man who has little regard for working class people and fails to recognise how overpaid his members actually are. His demands are totally unjustified and we should be seeking to cut the pay of train drivers . It is hardly a skilled job. Any pay aware made to railway staff has to be financed by ordinary members of the public . With a salary in excess of £120,000 per annum and a £1 million house in Ealing he has little in common with those that he claims to represent. " You clearly haven't watched him in action in recent days. He's been making fools of pretty much everybody who has gone up against him. You truly live in a strange little parallel universe of your own, don't you? | |||
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"It's been interesting watching Mick Lynch pop up on various media outlets. So far, he's made a fool of MPs, presenters + journalists across the board. . Mick Lynch is highly unlikely to make a fool of anyone. Most people can see him for what he is. A man who has little regard for working class people and fails to recognise how overpaid his members actually are. His demands are totally unjustified and we should be seeking to cut the pay of train drivers . It is hardly a skilled job. Any pay aware made to railway staff has to be financed by ordinary members of the public . With a salary in excess of £120,000 per annum and a £1 million house in Ealing he has little in common with those that he claims to represent. " £120,000 is pea nuts, | |||
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"Lynch just owned Jenrick on Peston too. They're gonna run out of people willing to go out against him soon at this rate..." He is making them all look like complete and utter fools, he is on question time tomorrow night | |||
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"Lynch just owned Jenrick on Peston too. They're gonna run out of people willing to go out against him soon at this rate... He is making them all look like complete and utter fools, he is on question time tomorrow night " Ohhhh I can't wait to see that. I almost pity the sacrificial lamb the government send out against him. | |||
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"Lynch just owned Jenrick on Peston too. They're gonna run out of people willing to go out against him soon at this rate... He is making them all look like complete and utter fools, he is on question time tomorrow night Ohhhh I can't wait to see that. I almost pity the sacrificial lamb the government send out against him." I want to see him against Gullis again, that thick fuckwit was handed his arse the other day | |||
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"Lynch just owned Jenrick on Peston too. They're gonna run out of people willing to go out against him soon at this rate... He is making them all look like complete and utter fools, he is on question time tomorrow night Ohhhh I can't wait to see that. I almost pity the sacrificial lamb the government send out against him. I want to see him against Gullis again, that thick fuckwit was handed his arse the other day " Tomorrow's QT Tory is supposed to be Rachel Maclean. She's the dumbass who previously thought it was a good idea to go on air + say people should just work more hours or get a better paid job to cope with the cost of living crisis. I suspect QT may not go well for her... | |||
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"Lynch just owned Jenrick on Peston too. They're gonna run out of people willing to go out against him soon at this rate... He is making them all look like complete and utter fools, he is on question time tomorrow night Ohhhh I can't wait to see that. I almost pity the sacrificial lamb the government send out against him. I want to see him against Gullis again, that thick fuckwit was handed his arse the other day Tomorrow's QT Tory is supposed to be Rachel Maclean. She's the dumbass who previously thought it was a good idea to go on air + say people should just work more hours or get a better paid job to cope with the cost of living crisis. I suspect QT may not go well for her..." O dear, they will need to fill the audience with compliant and die hard tories because he is going to destroy her | |||
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"Lynch just owned Jenrick on Peston too. They're gonna run out of people willing to go out against him soon at this rate... He is making them all look like complete and utter fools, he is on question time tomorrow night " ,,, ,,, that is a must watch | |||
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"It's been interesting watching Mick Lynch pop up on various media outlets. So far, he's made a fool of MPs, presenters + journalists across the board. . Mick Lynch is highly unlikely to make a fool of anyone. Most people can see him for what he is. A man who has little regard for working class people and fails to recognise how overpaid his members actually are. His demands are totally unjustified and we should be seeking to cut the pay of train drivers . It is hardly a skilled job. Any pay aware made to railway staff has to be financed by ordinary members of the public . With a salary in excess of £120,000 per annum and a £1 million house in Ealing he has little in common with those that he claims to represent. " Oh dear oh dear oh dear….sad….very sad  | |||
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"Lynch just owned Jenrick on Peston too. They're gonna run out of people willing to go out against him soon at this rate... He is making them all look like complete and utter fools, he is on question time tomorrow night ,,, ,,, that is a must watch" Will be fun to watch and could become interesting. But if they have someone ask him the right questions in the right way and not try to make it about him them we would see a different side. Make it about the work practices that he is defending then watch him try and defend them. | |||
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"It's been interesting watching Mick Lynch pop up on various media outlets. So far, he's made a fool of MPs, presenters + journalists across the board. . Mick Lynch is highly unlikely to make a fool of anyone. Most people can see him for what he is. A man who has little regard for working class people and fails to recognise how overpaid his members actually are. His demands are totally unjustified and we should be seeking to cut the pay of train drivers . It is hardly a skilled job. Any pay aware made to railway staff has to be financed by ordinary members of the public . With a salary in excess of £120,000 per annum and a £1 million house in Ealing he has little in common with those that he claims to represent. " Except that he doesn’t represent train drivers. ASLEF is the train drivers union. As usual, you have picked up the message that you have been programmed to pick up up and then propagate it without even considering the validity of what you are writing. The RMT represent train and station cleaners, station and ticketing staff, guards and hospitality staff. Many earn the living wage whilst the “well off” contracted workers are paid on average around £24,000. Why should it be OK for train companies to receive a guaranteed £500 million a year in profit, pay their Executives literally hundreds of thousands a year, have a mechanism to automatically put up rail fares every year by more than the RPI and yet refuse the lowest workers in their organisation an RPI matching wage rise? How can that be right? | |||
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"It's been interesting watching Mick Lynch pop up on various media outlets. So far, he's made a fool of MPs, presenters + journalists across the board. . Mick Lynch is highly unlikely to make a fool of anyone. Most people can see him for what he is. A man who has little regard for working class people and fails to recognise how overpaid his members actually are. His demands are totally unjustified and we should be seeking to cut the pay of train drivers . It is hardly a skilled job. Any pay aware made to railway staff has to be financed by ordinary members of the public . With a salary in excess of £120,000 per annum and a £1 million house in Ealing he has little in common with those that he claims to represent. Except that he doesn’t represent train drivers. ASLEF is the train drivers union. As usual, you have picked up the message that you have been programmed to pick up up and then propagate it without even considering the validity of what you are writing. The RMT represent train and station cleaners, station and ticketing staff, guards and hospitality staff. Many earn the living wage whilst the “well off” contracted workers are paid on average around £24,000. Why should it be OK for train companies to receive a guaranteed £500 million a year in profit, pay their Executives literally hundreds of thousands a year, have a mechanism to automatically put up rail fares every year by more than the RPI and yet refuse the lowest workers in their organisation an RPI matching wage rise? How can that be right?" I hope the QT audience has some of the local traders who have lost most of their business over the last couple of days. They should ask if the RMT is going to reimburse them for the money lost due to the RMT strike action. | |||
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"It's been interesting watching Mick Lynch pop up on various media outlets. So far, he's made a fool of MPs, presenters + journalists across the board. . Mick Lynch is highly unlikely to make a fool of anyone. Most people can see him for what he is. A man who has little regard for working class people and fails to recognise how overpaid his members actually are. His demands are totally unjustified and we should be seeking to cut the pay of train drivers . It is hardly a skilled job. Any pay aware made to railway staff has to be financed by ordinary members of the public . With a salary in excess of £120,000 per annum and a £1 million house in Ealing he has little in common with those that he claims to represent. Except that he doesn’t represent train drivers. ASLEF is the train drivers union. As usual, you have picked up the message that you have been programmed to pick up up and then propagate it without even considering the validity of what you are writing. The RMT represent train and station cleaners, station and ticketing staff, guards and hospitality staff. Many earn the living wage whilst the “well off” contracted workers are paid on average around £24,000. Why should it be OK for train companies to receive a guaranteed £500 million a year in profit, pay their Executives literally hundreds of thousands a year, have a mechanism to automatically put up rail fares every year by more than the RPI and yet refuse the lowest workers in their organisation an RPI matching wage rise? How can that be right? I hope the QT audience has some of the local traders who have lost most of their business over the last couple of days. They should ask if the RMT is going to reimburse them for the money lost due to the RMT strike action." Why would they do that? Are Brexit voters going to reimburse business that have lost money since we left the EU? | |||
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"It's been interesting watching Mick Lynch pop up on various media outlets. So far, he's made a fool of MPs, presenters + journalists across the board. . Mick Lynch is highly unlikely to make a fool of anyone. Most people can see him for what he is. A man who has little regard for working class people and fails to recognise how overpaid his members actually are. His demands are totally unjustified and we should be seeking to cut the pay of train drivers . It is hardly a skilled job. Any pay aware made to railway staff has to be financed by ordinary members of the public . With a salary in excess of £120,000 per annum and a £1 million house in Ealing he has little in common with those that he claims to represent. Except that he doesn’t represent train drivers. ASLEF is the train drivers union. As usual, you have picked up the message that you have been programmed to pick up up and then propagate it without even considering the validity of what you are writing. The RMT represent train and station cleaners, station and ticketing staff, guards and hospitality staff. Many earn the living wage whilst the “well off” contracted workers are paid on average around £24,000. Why should it be OK for train companies to receive a guaranteed £500 million a year in profit, pay their Executives literally hundreds of thousands a year, have a mechanism to automatically put up rail fares every year by more than the RPI and yet refuse the lowest workers in their organisation an RPI matching wage rise? How can that be right? I hope the QT audience has some of the local traders who have lost most of their business over the last couple of days. They should ask if the RMT is going to reimburse them for the money lost due to the RMT strike action." You have been successfully groomed. Divide and conquer is the plan. Get ordinary people to turn on each other rather than focusing on the incompetence in Government. | |||
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"It's been interesting watching Mick Lynch pop up on various media outlets. So far, he's made a fool of MPs, presenters + journalists across the board. . Mick Lynch is highly unlikely to make a fool of anyone. Most people can see him for what he is. A man who has little regard for working class people and fails to recognise how overpaid his members actually are. His demands are totally unjustified and we should be seeking to cut the pay of train drivers . It is hardly a skilled job. Any pay aware made to railway staff has to be financed by ordinary members of the public . With a salary in excess of £120,000 per annum and a £1 million house in Ealing he has little in common with those that he claims to represent. Except that he doesn’t represent train drivers. ASLEF is the train drivers union. As usual, you have picked up the message that you have been programmed to pick up up and then propagate it without even considering the validity of what you are writing. The RMT represent train and station cleaners, station and ticketing staff, guards and hospitality staff. Many earn the living wage whilst the “well off” contracted workers are paid on average around £24,000. Why should it be OK for train companies to receive a guaranteed £500 million a year in profit, pay their Executives literally hundreds of thousands a year, have a mechanism to automatically put up rail fares every year by more than the RPI and yet refuse the lowest workers in their organisation an RPI matching wage rise? How can that be right? I hope the QT audience has some of the local traders who have lost most of their business over the last couple of days. They should ask if the RMT is going to reimburse them for the money lost due to the RMT strike action. Why would they do that? Are Brexit voters going to reimburse business that have lost money since we left the EU? " Nice effort of deflection but it has nothing to do with the RMT strike action. Try sticking to the actual topic of the thread and not making everything about Brexit. | |||
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"It's been interesting watching Mick Lynch pop up on various media outlets. So far, he's made a fool of MPs, presenters + journalists across the board. . Mick Lynch is highly unlikely to make a fool of anyone. Most people can see him for what he is. A man who has little regard for working class people and fails to recognise how overpaid his members actually are. His demands are totally unjustified and we should be seeking to cut the pay of train drivers . It is hardly a skilled job. Any pay aware made to railway staff has to be financed by ordinary members of the public . With a salary in excess of £120,000 per annum and a £1 million house in Ealing he has little in common with those that he claims to represent. Except that he doesn’t represent train drivers. ASLEF is the train drivers union. As usual, you have picked up the message that you have been programmed to pick up up and then propagate it without even considering the validity of what you are writing. The RMT represent train and station cleaners, station and ticketing staff, guards and hospitality staff. Many earn the living wage whilst the “well off” contracted workers are paid on average around £24,000. Why should it be OK for train companies to receive a guaranteed £500 million a year in profit, pay their Executives literally hundreds of thousands a year, have a mechanism to automatically put up rail fares every year by more than the RPI and yet refuse the lowest workers in their organisation an RPI matching wage rise? How can that be right? I hope the QT audience has some of the local traders who have lost most of their business over the last couple of days. They should ask if the RMT is going to reimburse them for the money lost due to the RMT strike action. Why would they do that? Are Brexit voters going to reimburse business that have lost money since we left the EU? Nice effort of deflection but it has nothing to do with the RMT strike action. Try sticking to the actual topic of the thread and not making everything about Brexit." Do you believe in democracy ? Will of the people etc | |||
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"It's been interesting watching Mick Lynch pop up on various media outlets. So far, he's made a fool of MPs, presenters + journalists across the board. . Mick Lynch is highly unlikely to make a fool of anyone. Most people can see him for what he is. A man who has little regard for working class people and fails to recognise how overpaid his members actually are. His demands are totally unjustified and we should be seeking to cut the pay of train drivers . It is hardly a skilled job. Any pay aware made to railway staff has to be financed by ordinary members of the public . With a salary in excess of £120,000 per annum and a £1 million house in Ealing he has little in common with those that he claims to represent. Except that he doesn’t represent train drivers. ASLEF is the train drivers union. As usual, you have picked up the message that you have been programmed to pick up up and then propagate it without even considering the validity of what you are writing. The RMT represent train and station cleaners, station and ticketing staff, guards and hospitality staff. Many earn the living wage whilst the “well off” contracted workers are paid on average around £24,000. Why should it be OK for train companies to receive a guaranteed £500 million a year in profit, pay their Executives literally hundreds of thousands a year, have a mechanism to automatically put up rail fares every year by more than the RPI and yet refuse the lowest workers in their organisation an RPI matching wage rise? How can that be right? I hope the QT audience has some of the local traders who have lost most of their business over the last couple of days. They should ask if the RMT is going to reimburse them for the money lost due to the RMT strike action. Why would they do that? Are Brexit voters going to reimburse business that have lost money since we left the EU? Nice effort of deflection but it has nothing to do with the RMT strike action. Try sticking to the actual topic of the thread and not making everything about Brexit. Do you believe in democracy ? Will of the people etc " As the RMT supported Brexit maybe one of those business you mentioned could ask on QT if the RMT is going to reimburse them. How do you feel about that? | |||
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"It's been interesting watching Mick Lynch pop up on various media outlets. So far, he's made a fool of MPs, presenters + journalists across the board. . Mick Lynch is highly unlikely to make a fool of anyone. Most people can see him for what he is. A man who has little regard for working class people and fails to recognise how overpaid his members actually are. His demands are totally unjustified and we should be seeking to cut the pay of train drivers . It is hardly a skilled job. Any pay aware made to railway staff has to be financed by ordinary members of the public . With a salary in excess of £120,000 per annum and a £1 million house in Ealing he has little in common with those that he claims to represent. Except that he doesn’t represent train drivers. ASLEF is the train drivers union. As usual, you have picked up the message that you have been programmed to pick up up and then propagate it without even considering the validity of what you are writing. The RMT represent train and station cleaners, station and ticketing staff, guards and hospitality staff. Many earn the living wage whilst the “well off” contracted workers are paid on average around £24,000. Why should it be OK for train companies to receive a guaranteed £500 million a year in profit, pay their Executives literally hundreds of thousands a year, have a mechanism to automatically put up rail fares every year by more than the RPI and yet refuse the lowest workers in their organisation an RPI matching wage rise? How can that be right? I hope the QT audience has some of the local traders who have lost most of their business over the last couple of days. They should ask if the RMT is going to reimburse them for the money lost due to the RMT strike action. Why would they do that? Are Brexit voters going to reimburse business that have lost money since we left the EU? Nice effort of deflection but it has nothing to do with the RMT strike action. Try sticking to the actual topic of the thread and not making everything about Brexit. Do you believe in democracy ? Will of the people etc As the RMT supported Brexit maybe one of those business you mentioned could ask on QT if the RMT is going to reimburse them. How do you feel about that?" I couldn’t care less if they supported Brexit, di you respect their democratic right to strike or not | |||
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"It's been interesting watching Mick Lynch pop up on various media outlets. So far, he's made a fool of MPs, presenters + journalists across the board. . Mick Lynch is highly unlikely to make a fool of anyone. Most people can see him for what he is. A man who has little regard for working class people and fails to recognise how overpaid his members actually are. His demands are totally unjustified and we should be seeking to cut the pay of train drivers . It is hardly a skilled job. Any pay aware made to railway staff has to be financed by ordinary members of the public . With a salary in excess of £120,000 per annum and a £1 million house in Ealing he has little in common with those that he claims to represent. Except that he doesn’t represent train drivers. ASLEF is the train drivers union. As usual, you have picked up the message that you have been programmed to pick up up and then propagate it without even considering the validity of what you are writing. The RMT represent train and station cleaners, station and ticketing staff, guards and hospitality staff. Many earn the living wage whilst the “well off” contracted workers are paid on average around £24,000. Why should it be OK for train companies to receive a guaranteed £500 million a year in profit, pay their Executives literally hundreds of thousands a year, have a mechanism to automatically put up rail fares every year by more than the RPI and yet refuse the lowest workers in their organisation an RPI matching wage rise? How can that be right? I hope the QT audience has some of the local traders who have lost most of their business over the last couple of days. They should ask if the RMT is going to reimburse them for the money lost due to the RMT strike action. Why would they do that? Are Brexit voters going to reimburse business that have lost money since we left the EU? Nice effort of deflection but it has nothing to do with the RMT strike action. Try sticking to the actual topic of the thread and not making everything about Brexit. Do you believe in democracy ? Will of the people etc As the RMT supported Brexit maybe one of those business you mentioned could ask on QT if the RMT is going to reimburse them. How do you feel about that? I couldn’t care less if they supported Brexit, di you respect their democratic right to strike or not " As a RMT member I support workers rights to have industrial action. I don't support the way the RMT has organised a country wide week of industrial action. Each dispute will have its individual grievance with the train operator and should be treated as such. I also do not agree in mixing wage negotiations with other grievances. Head office has tried that with us and we told them to fuck off. | |||
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"It's been interesting watching Mick Lynch pop up on various media outlets. So far, he's made a fool of MPs, presenters + journalists across the board. . Mick Lynch is highly unlikely to make a fool of anyone. Most people can see him for what he is. A man who has little regard for working class people and fails to recognise how overpaid his members actually are. His demands are totally unjustified and we should be seeking to cut the pay of train drivers . It is hardly a skilled job. Any pay aware made to railway staff has to be financed by ordinary members of the public . With a salary in excess of £120,000 per annum and a £1 million house in Ealing he has little in common with those that he claims to represent. Except that he doesn’t represent train drivers. ASLEF is the train drivers union. As usual, you have picked up the message that you have been programmed to pick up up and then propagate it without even considering the validity of what you are writing. The RMT represent train and station cleaners, station and ticketing staff, guards and hospitality staff. Many earn the living wage whilst the “well off” contracted workers are paid on average around £24,000. Why should it be OK for train companies to receive a guaranteed £500 million a year in profit, pay their Executives literally hundreds of thousands a year, have a mechanism to automatically put up rail fares every year by more than the RPI and yet refuse the lowest workers in their organisation an RPI matching wage rise? How can that be right? I hope the QT audience has some of the local traders who have lost most of their business over the last couple of days. They should ask if the RMT is going to reimburse them for the money lost due to the RMT strike action. Why would they do that? Are Brexit voters going to reimburse business that have lost money since we left the EU? Nice effort of deflection but it has nothing to do with the RMT strike action. Try sticking to the actual topic of the thread and not making everything about Brexit. Do you believe in democracy ? Will of the people etc As the RMT supported Brexit maybe one of those business you mentioned could ask on QT if the RMT is going to reimburse them. How do you feel about that? I couldn’t care less if they supported Brexit, di you respect their democratic right to strike or not As a RMT member I support workers rights to have industrial action. I don't support the way the RMT has organised a country wide week of industrial action. Each dispute will have its individual grievance with the train operator and should be treated as such. I also do not agree in mixing wage negotiations with other grievances. Head office has tried that with us and we told them to fuck off. " They had a vote, they voted to strike, either you accept their democratic right or you don’t ? | |||
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"It's been interesting watching Mick Lynch pop up on various media outlets. So far, he's made a fool of MPs, presenters + journalists across the board. . Mick Lynch is highly unlikely to make a fool of anyone. Most people can see him for what he is. A man who has little regard for working class people and fails to recognise how overpaid his members actually are. His demands are totally unjustified and we should be seeking to cut the pay of train drivers . It is hardly a skilled job. Any pay aware made to railway staff has to be financed by ordinary members of the public . With a salary in excess of £120,000 per annum and a £1 million house in Ealing he has little in common with those that he claims to represent. Except that he doesn’t represent train drivers. ASLEF is the train drivers union. As usual, you have picked up the message that you have been programmed to pick up up and then propagate it without even considering the validity of what you are writing. The RMT represent train and station cleaners, station and ticketing staff, guards and hospitality staff. Many earn the living wage whilst the “well off” contracted workers are paid on average around £24,000. Why should it be OK for train companies to receive a guaranteed £500 million a year in profit, pay their Executives literally hundreds of thousands a year, have a mechanism to automatically put up rail fares every year by more than the RPI and yet refuse the lowest workers in their organisation an RPI matching wage rise? How can that be right? I hope the QT audience has some of the local traders who have lost most of their business over the last couple of days. They should ask if the RMT is going to reimburse them for the money lost due to the RMT strike action. Why would they do that? Are Brexit voters going to reimburse business that have lost money since we left the EU? Nice effort of deflection but it has nothing to do with the RMT strike action. Try sticking to the actual topic of the thread and not making everything about Brexit. Do you believe in democracy ? Will of the people etc As the RMT supported Brexit maybe one of those business you mentioned could ask on QT if the RMT is going to reimburse them. How do you feel about that? I couldn’t care less if they supported Brexit, di you respect their democratic right to strike or not As a RMT member I support workers rights to have industrial action. I don't support the way the RMT has organised a country wide week of industrial action. Each dispute will have its individual grievance with the train operator and should be treated as such. I also do not agree in mixing wage negotiations with other grievances. Head office has tried that with us and we told them to fuck off. They had a vote, they voted to strike, either you accept their democratic right or you don’t ? " In over 30 years I have never had a ballot paper on working to rule, which should be the first step in any industrial action. The RMT's answer is always to vote for a strike. A period of working to rule would cause any train operators more disruption over a period of time than have one or two days of strike action. The point best to remember is that working to rule means none of the unions members lose any basic pay. Plus the travelling public can still get from A to B with some disruption. | |||
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"It's been interesting watching Mick Lynch pop up on various media outlets. So far, he's made a fool of MPs, presenters + journalists across the board. . Mick Lynch is highly unlikely to make a fool of anyone. Most people can see him for what he is. A man who has little regard for working class people and fails to recognise how overpaid his members actually are. His demands are totally unjustified and we should be seeking to cut the pay of train drivers . It is hardly a skilled job. Any pay aware made to railway staff has to be financed by ordinary members of the public . With a salary in excess of £120,000 per annum and a £1 million house in Ealing he has little in common with those that he claims to represent. Except that he doesn’t represent train drivers. ASLEF is the train drivers union. As usual, you have picked up the message that you have been programmed to pick up up and then propagate it without even considering the validity of what you are writing. The RMT represent train and station cleaners, station and ticketing staff, guards and hospitality staff. Many earn the living wage whilst the “well off” contracted workers are paid on average around £24,000. Why should it be OK for train companies to receive a guaranteed £500 million a year in profit, pay their Executives literally hundreds of thousands a year, have a mechanism to automatically put up rail fares every year by more than the RPI and yet refuse the lowest workers in their organisation an RPI matching wage rise? How can that be right? I hope the QT audience has some of the local traders who have lost most of their business over the last couple of days. They should ask if the RMT is going to reimburse them for the money lost due to the RMT strike action. Why would they do that? Are Brexit voters going to reimburse business that have lost money since we left the EU? Nice effort of deflection but it has nothing to do with the RMT strike action. Try sticking to the actual topic of the thread and not making everything about Brexit. Do you believe in democracy ? Will of the people etc As the RMT supported Brexit maybe one of those business you mentioned could ask on QT if the RMT is going to reimburse them. How do you feel about that? I couldn’t care less if they supported Brexit, di you respect their democratic right to strike or not As a RMT member I support workers rights to have industrial action. I don't support the way the RMT has organised a country wide week of industrial action. Each dispute will have its individual grievance with the train operator and should be treated as such. I also do not agree in mixing wage negotiations with other grievances. Head office has tried that with us and we told them to fuck off. They had a vote, they voted to strike, either you accept their democratic right or you don’t ? In over 30 years I have never had a ballot paper on working to rule, which should be the first step in any industrial action. The RMT's answer is always to vote for a strike. A period of working to rule would cause any train operators more disruption over a period of time than have one or two days of strike action. The point best to remember is that working to rule means none of the unions members lose any basic pay. Plus the travelling public can still get from A to B with some disruption. " Then why are you in the RMT? If you have to be because of your job then why are you in that job? | |||
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"It's been interesting watching Mick Lynch pop up on various media outlets. So far, he's made a fool of MPs, presenters + journalists across the board. . Mick Lynch is highly unlikely to make a fool of anyone. Most people can see him for what he is. A man who has little regard for working class people and fails to recognise how overpaid his members actually are. His demands are totally unjustified and we should be seeking to cut the pay of train drivers . It is hardly a skilled job. Any pay aware made to railway staff has to be financed by ordinary members of the public . With a salary in excess of £120,000 per annum and a £1 million house in Ealing he has little in common with those that he claims to represent. Except that he doesn’t represent train drivers. ASLEF is the train drivers union. As usual, you have picked up the message that you have been programmed to pick up up and then propagate it without even considering the validity of what you are writing. The RMT represent train and station cleaners, station and ticketing staff, guards and hospitality staff. Many earn the living wage whilst the “well off” contracted workers are paid on average around £24,000. Why should it be OK for train companies to receive a guaranteed £500 million a year in profit, pay their Executives literally hundreds of thousands a year, have a mechanism to automatically put up rail fares every year by more than the RPI and yet refuse the lowest workers in their organisation an RPI matching wage rise? How can that be right? I hope the QT audience has some of the local traders who have lost most of their business over the last couple of days. They should ask if the RMT is going to reimburse them for the money lost due to the RMT strike action. Why would they do that? Are Brexit voters going to reimburse business that have lost money since we left the EU? Nice effort of deflection but it has nothing to do with the RMT strike action. Try sticking to the actual topic of the thread and not making everything about Brexit. Do you believe in democracy ? Will of the people etc As the RMT supported Brexit maybe one of those business you mentioned could ask on QT if the RMT is going to reimburse them. How do you feel about that? I couldn’t care less if they supported Brexit, di you respect their democratic right to strike or not As a RMT member I support workers rights to have industrial action. I don't support the way the RMT has organised a country wide week of industrial action. Each dispute will have its individual grievance with the train operator and should be treated as such. I also do not agree in mixing wage negotiations with other grievances. Head office has tried that with us and we told them to fuck off. They had a vote, they voted to strike, either you accept their democratic right or you don’t ? In over 30 years I have never had a ballot paper on working to rule, which should be the first step in any industrial action. The RMT's answer is always to vote for a strike. A period of working to rule would cause any train operators more disruption over a period of time than have one or two days of strike action. The point best to remember is that working to rule means none of the unions members lose any basic pay. Plus the travelling public can still get from A to B with some disruption. Then why are you in the RMT? If you have to be because of your job then why are you in that job? " Frankly it's got bugger all to do with you. To me you appear to be brainwashed into this opinion it's the workers against the government. Knowing how the RMT head office works and having met Mr Lynch I can safely say that they are using the people on strikes as pawns. I voted for somebody else when voting for a new head of the RMT. | |||
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"It's been interesting watching Mick Lynch pop up on various media outlets. So far, he's made a fool of MPs, presenters + journalists across the board. . Mick Lynch is highly unlikely to make a fool of anyone. Most people can see him for what he is. A man who has little regard for working class people and fails to recognise how overpaid his members actually are. His demands are totally unjustified and we should be seeking to cut the pay of train drivers . It is hardly a skilled job. Any pay aware made to railway staff has to be financed by ordinary members of the public . With a salary in excess of £120,000 per annum and a £1 million house in Ealing he has little in common with those that he claims to represent. Except that he doesn’t represent train drivers. ASLEF is the train drivers union. As usual, you have picked up the message that you have been programmed to pick up up and then propagate it without even considering the validity of what you are writing. The RMT represent train and station cleaners, station and ticketing staff, guards and hospitality staff. Many earn the living wage whilst the “well off” contracted workers are paid on average around £24,000. Why should it be OK for train companies to receive a guaranteed £500 million a year in profit, pay their Executives literally hundreds of thousands a year, have a mechanism to automatically put up rail fares every year by more than the RPI and yet refuse the lowest workers in their organisation an RPI matching wage rise? How can that be right? I hope the QT audience has some of the local traders who have lost most of their business over the last couple of days. They should ask if the RMT is going to reimburse them for the money lost due to the RMT strike action. Why would they do that? Are Brexit voters going to reimburse business that have lost money since we left the EU? Nice effort of deflection but it has nothing to do with the RMT strike action. Try sticking to the actual topic of the thread and not making everything about Brexit. Do you believe in democracy ? Will of the people etc As the RMT supported Brexit maybe one of those business you mentioned could ask on QT if the RMT is going to reimburse them. How do you feel about that? I couldn’t care less if they supported Brexit, di you respect their democratic right to strike or not As a RMT member I support workers rights to have industrial action. I don't support the way the RMT has organised a country wide week of industrial action. Each dispute will have its individual grievance with the train operator and should be treated as such. I also do not agree in mixing wage negotiations with other grievances. Head office has tried that with us and we told them to fuck off. They had a vote, they voted to strike, either you accept their democratic right or you don’t ? In over 30 years I have never had a ballot paper on working to rule, which should be the first step in any industrial action. The RMT's answer is always to vote for a strike. A period of working to rule would cause any train operators more disruption over a period of time than have one or two days of strike action. The point best to remember is that working to rule means none of the unions members lose any basic pay. Plus the travelling public can still get from A to B with some disruption. Then why are you in the RMT? If you have to be because of your job then why are you in that job? Frankly it's got bugger all to do with you. To me you appear to be brainwashed into this opinion it's the workers against the government. Knowing how the RMT head office works and having met Mr Lynch I can safely say that they are using the people on strikes as pawns. I voted for somebody else when voting for a new head of the RMT." Look, you have a choice , you aren’t forced into being a member of the RMT, the majority of the people who are members voted to strike, either accept it or leave, You lost, get over it  | |||
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"Do as the Japanese, go to work but refuse to take any fare money, let everyone travel free. Is that legal in the Uk? Minor detail. So it is illegal , would you go and work for free ? " Of course not. Nor the rail staff, they are going to work so get paid. They just ‘forget’ to take ticket payments or check passengers tickets. ‘Accidentally ‘ leave the gates open. Keep up! | |||
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"It's been interesting watching Mick Lynch pop up on various media outlets. So far, he's made a fool of MPs, presenters + journalists across the board. . Mick Lynch is highly unlikely to make a fool of anyone. Most people can see him for what he is. A man who has little regard for working class people and fails to recognise how overpaid his members actually are. His demands are totally unjustified and we should be seeking to cut the pay of train drivers . It is hardly a skilled job. Any pay aware made to railway staff has to be financed by ordinary members of the public . With a salary in excess of £120,000 per annum and a £1 million house in Ealing he has little in common with those that he claims to represent. Except that he doesn’t represent train drivers. ASLEF is the train drivers union. As usual, you have picked up the message that you have been programmed to pick up up and then propagate it without even considering the validity of what you are writing. The RMT represent train and station cleaners, station and ticketing staff, guards and hospitality staff. Many earn the living wage whilst the “well off” contracted workers are paid on average around £24,000. Why should it be OK for train companies to receive a guaranteed £500 million a year in profit, pay their Executives literally hundreds of thousands a year, have a mechanism to automatically put up rail fares every year by more than the RPI and yet refuse the lowest workers in their organisation an RPI matching wage rise? How can that be right? I hope the QT audience has some of the local traders who have lost most of their business over the last couple of days. They should ask if the RMT is going to reimburse them for the money lost due to the RMT strike action. Why would they do that? Are Brexit voters going to reimburse business that have lost money since we left the EU? Nice effort of deflection but it has nothing to do with the RMT strike action. Try sticking to the actual topic of the thread and not making everything about Brexit. Do you believe in democracy ? Will of the people etc As the RMT supported Brexit maybe one of those business you mentioned could ask on QT if the RMT is going to reimburse them. How do you feel about that? I couldn’t care less if they supported Brexit, di you respect their democratic right to strike or not As a RMT member I support workers rights to have industrial action. I don't support the way the RMT has organised a country wide week of industrial action. Each dispute will have its individual grievance with the train operator and should be treated as such. I also do not agree in mixing wage negotiations with other grievances. Head office has tried that with us and we told them to fuck off. They had a vote, they voted to strike, either you accept their democratic right or you don’t ? In over 30 years I have never had a ballot paper on working to rule, which should be the first step in any industrial action. The RMT's answer is always to vote for a strike. A period of working to rule would cause any train operators more disruption over a period of time than have one or two days of strike action. The point best to remember is that working to rule means none of the unions members lose any basic pay. Plus the travelling public can still get from A to B with some disruption. Then why are you in the RMT? If you have to be because of your job then why are you in that job? Frankly it's got bugger all to do with you. To me you appear to be brainwashed into this opinion it's the workers against the government. Knowing how the RMT head office works and having met Mr Lynch I can safely say that they are using the people on strikes as pawns. I voted for somebody else when voting for a new head of the RMT. Look, you have a choice , you aren’t forced into being a member of the RMT, the majority of the people who are members voted to strike, either accept it or leave, You lost, get over it "The disputes have nothing to do with me so I'm not on strike. You appear to actually know very little about what is going on. Try not believing all the leftie propaganda you are reading. | |||
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"It's been interesting watching Mick Lynch pop up on various media outlets. So far, he's made a fool of MPs, presenters + journalists across the board. . Mick Lynch is highly unlikely to make a fool of anyone. Most people can see him for what he is. A man who has little regard for working class people and fails to recognise how overpaid his members actually are. His demands are totally unjustified and we should be seeking to cut the pay of train drivers . It is hardly a skilled job. Any pay aware made to railway staff has to be financed by ordinary members of the public . With a salary in excess of £120,000 per annum and a £1 million house in Ealing he has little in common with those that he claims to represent. Except that he doesn’t represent train drivers. ASLEF is the train drivers union. As usual, you have picked up the message that you have been programmed to pick up up and then propagate it without even considering the validity of what you are writing. The RMT represent train and station cleaners, station and ticketing staff, guards and hospitality staff. Many earn the living wage whilst the “well off” contracted workers are paid on average around £24,000. Why should it be OK for train companies to receive a guaranteed £500 million a year in profit, pay their Executives literally hundreds of thousands a year, have a mechanism to automatically put up rail fares every year by more than the RPI and yet refuse the lowest workers in their organisation an RPI matching wage rise? How can that be right? I hope the QT audience has some of the local traders who have lost most of their business over the last couple of days. They should ask if the RMT is going to reimburse them for the money lost due to the RMT strike action. Why would they do that? Are Brexit voters going to reimburse business that have lost money since we left the EU? Nice effort of deflection but it has nothing to do with the RMT strike action. Try sticking to the actual topic of the thread and not making everything about Brexit. Do you believe in democracy ? Will of the people etc As the RMT supported Brexit maybe one of those business you mentioned could ask on QT if the RMT is going to reimburse them. How do you feel about that? I couldn’t care less if they supported Brexit, di you respect their democratic right to strike or not As a RMT member I support workers rights to have industrial action. I don't support the way the RMT has organised a country wide week of industrial action. Each dispute will have its individual grievance with the train operator and should be treated as such. I also do not agree in mixing wage negotiations with other grievances. Head office has tried that with us and we told them to fuck off. They had a vote, they voted to strike, either you accept their democratic right or you don’t ? In over 30 years I have never had a ballot paper on working to rule, which should be the first step in any industrial action. The RMT's answer is always to vote for a strike. A period of working to rule would cause any train operators more disruption over a period of time than have one or two days of strike action. The point best to remember is that working to rule means none of the unions members lose any basic pay. Plus the travelling public can still get from A to B with some disruption. Then why are you in the RMT? If you have to be because of your job then why are you in that job? Frankly it's got bugger all to do with you. To me you appear to be brainwashed into this opinion it's the workers against the government. Knowing how the RMT head office works and having met Mr Lynch I can safely say that they are using the people on strikes as pawns. I voted for somebody else when voting for a new head of the RMT. Look, you have a choice , you aren’t forced into being a member of the RMT, the majority of the people who are members voted to strike, either accept it or leave, You lost, get over it
The disputes have nothing to do with me so I'm not on strike.
You appear to actually know very little about what is going on.
Try not believing all the leftie propaganda you are reading."Where do I find this ‘leftie propaganda? , you appear to dismiss and are struggling to accept democracy and the will of the people , and are a ‘strikemoaner’ . Imagine thinking the RMT should pay any compensation to people who haven’t ‘properly planned’ for the strikes, laughable, does any of this sound familiar? | |||
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"It's been interesting watching Mick Lynch pop up on various media outlets. So far, he's made a fool of MPs, presenters + journalists across the board. . Mick Lynch is highly unlikely to make a fool of anyone. Most people can see him for what he is. A man who has little regard for working class people and fails to recognise how overpaid his members actually are. His demands are totally unjustified and we should be seeking to cut the pay of train drivers . It is hardly a skilled job. Any pay aware made to railway staff has to be financed by ordinary members of the public . With a salary in excess of £120,000 per annum and a £1 million house in Ealing he has little in common with those that he claims to represent. Except that he doesn’t represent train drivers. ASLEF is the train drivers union. As usual, you have picked up the message that you have been programmed to pick up up and then propagate it without even considering the validity of what you are writing. The RMT represent train and station cleaners, station and ticketing staff, guards and hospitality staff. Many earn the living wage whilst the “well off” contracted workers are paid on average around £24,000. Why should it be OK for train companies to receive a guaranteed £500 million a year in profit, pay their Executives literally hundreds of thousands a year, have a mechanism to automatically put up rail fares every year by more than the RPI and yet refuse the lowest workers in their organisation an RPI matching wage rise? How can that be right? I hope the QT audience has some of the local traders who have lost most of their business over the last couple of days. They should ask if the RMT is going to reimburse them for the money lost due to the RMT strike action. Why would they do that? Are Brexit voters going to reimburse business that have lost money since we left the EU? Nice effort of deflection but it has nothing to do with the RMT strike action. Try sticking to the actual topic of the thread and not making everything about Brexit. Do you believe in democracy ? Will of the people etc As the RMT supported Brexit maybe one of those business you mentioned could ask on QT if the RMT is going to reimburse them. How do you feel about that? I couldn’t care less if they supported Brexit, di you respect their democratic right to strike or not As a RMT member I support workers rights to have industrial action. I don't support the way the RMT has organised a country wide week of industrial action. Each dispute will have its individual grievance with the train operator and should be treated as such. I also do not agree in mixing wage negotiations with other grievances. Head office has tried that with us and we told them to fuck off. They had a vote, they voted to strike, either you accept their democratic right or you don’t ? In over 30 years I have never had a ballot paper on working to rule, which should be the first step in any industrial action. The RMT's answer is always to vote for a strike. A period of working to rule would cause any train operators more disruption over a period of time than have one or two days of strike action. The point best to remember is that working to rule means none of the unions members lose any basic pay. Plus the travelling public can still get from A to B with some disruption. Then why are you in the RMT? If you have to be because of your job then why are you in that job? Frankly it's got bugger all to do with you. To me you appear to be brainwashed into this opinion it's the workers against the government. Knowing how the RMT head office works and having met Mr Lynch I can safely say that they are using the people on strikes as pawns. I voted for somebody else when voting for a new head of the RMT. Look, you have a choice , you aren’t forced into being a member of the RMT, the majority of the people who are members voted to strike, either accept it or leave, You lost, get over it
The disputes have nothing to do with me so I'm not on strike.
You appear to actually know very little about what is going on.
Try not believing all the leftie propaganda you are reading.
Where do I find this ‘leftie propaganda? , you appear to dismiss and are struggling to accept democracy and the will of the people , and are a ‘strikemoaner’ . Imagine thinking the RMT should pay any compensation to people who haven’t ‘properly planned’ for the strikes, laughable, does any of this sound familiar? "You seem to be at odd with yourself when you use the phrase "democracy and the will of the people.!" As I stated before, I support workers vote to strike. I don't support RMT head office using different disputes across different train operators to bring the country to a halt. Like I said they are using the workers as pawns. | |||
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"It's been interesting watching Mick Lynch pop up on various media outlets. So far, he's made a fool of MPs, presenters + journalists across the board. . Mick Lynch is highly unlikely to make a fool of anyone. Most people can see him for what he is. A man who has little regard for working class people and fails to recognise how overpaid his members actually are. His demands are totally unjustified and we should be seeking to cut the pay of train drivers . It is hardly a skilled job. Any pay aware made to railway staff has to be financed by ordinary members of the public . With a salary in excess of £120,000 per annum and a £1 million house in Ealing he has little in common with those that he claims to represent. Except that he doesn’t represent train drivers. ASLEF is the train drivers union. As usual, you have picked up the message that you have been programmed to pick up up and then propagate it without even considering the validity of what you are writing. The RMT represent train and station cleaners, station and ticketing staff, guards and hospitality staff. Many earn the living wage whilst the “well off” contracted workers are paid on average around £24,000. Why should it be OK for train companies to receive a guaranteed £500 million a year in profit, pay their Executives literally hundreds of thousands a year, have a mechanism to automatically put up rail fares every year by more than the RPI and yet refuse the lowest workers in their organisation an RPI matching wage rise? How can that be right? I hope the QT audience has some of the local traders who have lost most of their business over the last couple of days. They should ask if the RMT is going to reimburse them for the money lost due to the RMT strike action. Why would they do that? Are Brexit voters going to reimburse business that have lost money since we left the EU? Nice effort of deflection but it has nothing to do with the RMT strike action. Try sticking to the actual topic of the thread and not making everything about Brexit. Do you believe in democracy ? Will of the people etc As the RMT supported Brexit maybe one of those business you mentioned could ask on QT if the RMT is going to reimburse them. How do you feel about that? I couldn’t care less if they supported Brexit, di you respect their democratic right to strike or not As a RMT member I support workers rights to have industrial action. I don't support the way the RMT has organised a country wide week of industrial action. Each dispute will have its individual grievance with the train operator and should be treated as such. I also do not agree in mixing wage negotiations with other grievances. Head office has tried that with us and we told them to fuck off. They had a vote, they voted to strike, either you accept their democratic right or you don’t ? In over 30 years I have never had a ballot paper on working to rule, which should be the first step in any industrial action. The RMT's answer is always to vote for a strike. A period of working to rule would cause any train operators more disruption over a period of time than have one or two days of strike action. The point best to remember is that working to rule means none of the unions members lose any basic pay. Plus the travelling public can still get from A to B with some disruption. Then why are you in the RMT? If you have to be because of your job then why are you in that job? Frankly it's got bugger all to do with you. To me you appear to be brainwashed into this opinion it's the workers against the government. Knowing how the RMT head office works and having met Mr Lynch I can safely say that they are using the people on strikes as pawns. I voted for somebody else when voting for a new head of the RMT. Look, you have a choice , you aren’t forced into being a member of the RMT, the majority of the people who are members voted to strike, either accept it or leave, You lost, get over it
The disputes have nothing to do with me so I'm not on strike.
You appear to actually know very little about what is going on.
Try not believing all the leftie propaganda you are reading.
Where do I find this ‘leftie propaganda? , you appear to dismiss and are struggling to accept democracy and the will of the people , and are a ‘strikemoaner’ . Imagine thinking the RMT should pay any compensation to people who haven’t ‘properly planned’ for the strikes, laughable, does any of this sound familiar?
You seem to be at odd with yourself when you use the phrase "democracy and the will of the people.!"
As I stated before, I support workers vote to strike.
I don't support RMT head office using different disputes across different train operators to bring the country to a halt.
Like I said they are using the workers as pawns.
"And the majority of the RMT members voted to strike, why should they pay anyone any ‘compensation’ like you suggested? | |||
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"It's been interesting watching Mick Lynch pop up on various media outlets. So far, he's made a fool of MPs, presenters + journalists across the board. . Mick Lynch is highly unlikely to make a fool of anyone. Most people can see him for what he is. A man who has little regard for working class people and fails to recognise how overpaid his members actually are. His demands are totally unjustified and we should be seeking to cut the pay of train drivers . It is hardly a skilled job. Any pay aware made to railway staff has to be financed by ordinary members of the public . With a salary in excess of £120,000 per annum and a £1 million house in Ealing he has little in common with those that he claims to represent. Except that he doesn’t represent train drivers. ASLEF is the train drivers union. As usual, you have picked up the message that you have been programmed to pick up up and then propagate it without even considering the validity of what you are writing. The RMT represent train and station cleaners, station and ticketing staff, guards and hospitality staff. Many earn the living wage whilst the “well off” contracted workers are paid on average around £24,000. Why should it be OK for train companies to receive a guaranteed £500 million a year in profit, pay their Executives literally hundreds of thousands a year, have a mechanism to automatically put up rail fares every year by more than the RPI and yet refuse the lowest workers in their organisation an RPI matching wage rise? How can that be right? I hope the QT audience has some of the local traders who have lost most of their business over the last couple of days. They should ask if the RMT is going to reimburse them for the money lost due to the RMT strike action. Why would they do that? Are Brexit voters going to reimburse business that have lost money since we left the EU? Nice effort of deflection but it has nothing to do with the RMT strike action. Try sticking to the actual topic of the thread and not making everything about Brexit. Do you believe in democracy ? Will of the people etc As the RMT supported Brexit maybe one of those business you mentioned could ask on QT if the RMT is going to reimburse them. How do you feel about that? I couldn’t care less if they supported Brexit, di you respect their democratic right to strike or not As a RMT member I support workers rights to have industrial action. I don't support the way the RMT has organised a country wide week of industrial action. Each dispute will have its individual grievance with the train operator and should be treated as such. I also do not agree in mixing wage negotiations with other grievances. Head office has tried that with us and we told them to fuck off. They had a vote, they voted to strike, either you accept their democratic right or you don’t ? In over 30 years I have never had a ballot paper on working to rule, which should be the first step in any industrial action. The RMT's answer is always to vote for a strike. A period of working to rule would cause any train operators more disruption over a period of time than have one or two days of strike action. The point best to remember is that working to rule means none of the unions members lose any basic pay. Plus the travelling public can still get from A to B with some disruption. Then why are you in the RMT? If you have to be because of your job then why are you in that job? Frankly it's got bugger all to do with you. To me you appear to be brainwashed into this opinion it's the workers against the government. Knowing how the RMT head office works and having met Mr Lynch I can safely say that they are using the people on strikes as pawns. I voted for somebody else when voting for a new head of the RMT. Look, you have a choice , you aren’t forced into being a member of the RMT, the majority of the people who are members voted to strike, either accept it or leave, You lost, get over it
The disputes have nothing to do with me so I'm not on strike.
You appear to actually know very little about what is going on.
Try not believing all the leftie propaganda you are reading.
Where do I find this ‘leftie propaganda? , you appear to dismiss and are struggling to accept democracy and the will of the people , and are a ‘strikemoaner’ . Imagine thinking the RMT should pay any compensation to people who haven’t ‘properly planned’ for the strikes, laughable, does any of this sound familiar?
You seem to be at odd with yourself when you use the phrase "democracy and the will of the people.!"
As I stated before, I support workers vote to strike.
I don't support RMT head office using different disputes across different train operators to bring the country to a halt.
Like I said they are using the workers as pawns.
And the majority of the RMT members voted to strike, why should they pay anyone any ‘compensation’ like you suggested? "You mentioned Brexit voters paying compensation to businesses. I pointed out to you that the RMT supported Brexit and urged their members to vote for it. | |||
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"It's been interesting watching Mick Lynch pop up on various media outlets. So far, he's made a fool of MPs, presenters + journalists across the board. . Mick Lynch is highly unlikely to make a fool of anyone. Most people can see him for what he is. A man who has little regard for working class people and fails to recognise how overpaid his members actually are. His demands are totally unjustified and we should be seeking to cut the pay of train drivers . It is hardly a skilled job. Any pay aware made to railway staff has to be financed by ordinary members of the public . With a salary in excess of £120,000 per annum and a £1 million house in Ealing he has little in common with those that he claims to represent. Except that he doesn’t represent train drivers. ASLEF is the train drivers union. As usual, you have picked up the message that you have been programmed to pick up up and then propagate it without even considering the validity of what you are writing. The RMT represent train and station cleaners, station and ticketing staff, guards and hospitality staff. Many earn the living wage whilst the “well off” contracted workers are paid on average around £24,000. Why should it be OK for train companies to receive a guaranteed £500 million a year in profit, pay their Executives literally hundreds of thousands a year, have a mechanism to automatically put up rail fares every year by more than the RPI and yet refuse the lowest workers in their organisation an RPI matching wage rise? How can that be right? I hope the QT audience has some of the local traders who have lost most of their business over the last couple of days. They should ask if the RMT is going to reimburse them for the money lost due to the RMT strike action. Why would they do that? Are Brexit voters going to reimburse business that have lost money since we left the EU? Nice effort of deflection but it has nothing to do with the RMT strike action. Try sticking to the actual topic of the thread and not making everything about Brexit. Do you believe in democracy ? Will of the people etc As the RMT supported Brexit maybe one of those business you mentioned could ask on QT if the RMT is going to reimburse them. How do you feel about that? I couldn’t care less if they supported Brexit, di you respect their democratic right to strike or not As a RMT member I support workers rights to have industrial action. I don't support the way the RMT has organised a country wide week of industrial action. Each dispute will have its individual grievance with the train operator and should be treated as such. I also do not agree in mixing wage negotiations with other grievances. Head office has tried that with us and we told them to fuck off. They had a vote, they voted to strike, either you accept their democratic right or you don’t ? In over 30 years I have never had a ballot paper on working to rule, which should be the first step in any industrial action. The RMT's answer is always to vote for a strike. A period of working to rule would cause any train operators more disruption over a period of time than have one or two days of strike action. The point best to remember is that working to rule means none of the unions members lose any basic pay. Plus the travelling public can still get from A to B with some disruption. Then why are you in the RMT? If you have to be because of your job then why are you in that job? Frankly it's got bugger all to do with you. To me you appear to be brainwashed into this opinion it's the workers against the government. Knowing how the RMT head office works and having met Mr Lynch I can safely say that they are using the people on strikes as pawns. I voted for somebody else when voting for a new head of the RMT. Look, you have a choice , you aren’t forced into being a member of the RMT, the majority of the people who are members voted to strike, either accept it or leave, You lost, get over it
The disputes have nothing to do with me so I'm not on strike.
You appear to actually know very little about what is going on.
Try not believing all the leftie propaganda you are reading.
Where do I find this ‘leftie propaganda? , you appear to dismiss and are struggling to accept democracy and the will of the people , and are a ‘strikemoaner’ . Imagine thinking the RMT should pay any compensation to people who haven’t ‘properly planned’ for the strikes, laughable, does any of this sound familiar?
You seem to be at odd with yourself when you use the phrase "democracy and the will of the people.!"
As I stated before, I support workers vote to strike.
I don't support RMT head office using different disputes across different train operators to bring the country to a halt.
Like I said they are using the workers as pawns.
And the majority of the RMT members voted to strike, why should they pay anyone any ‘compensation’ like you suggested?
You mentioned Brexit voters paying compensation to businesses. I pointed out to you that the RMT supported Brexit and urged their members to vote for it.
"You mentioned that the RMT should pay compensation to people affected by the strikes, I responded by asking you if you think Brexit voters should pay compensation to people affected by Brexit. So, do you still think the RMT should pay compensation ? Btw, I couldn’t care less if the RMT backed Brexit and I don’t think Brexit voters should pay compensation | |||
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"It's been interesting watching Mick Lynch pop up on various media outlets. So far, he's made a fool of MPs, presenters + journalists across the board. . Mick Lynch is highly unlikely to make a fool of anyone. Most people can see him for what he is. A man who has little regard for working class people and fails to recognise how overpaid his members actually are. His demands are totally unjustified and we should be seeking to cut the pay of train drivers . It is hardly a skilled job. Any pay aware made to railway staff has to be financed by ordinary members of the public . With a salary in excess of £120,000 per annum and a £1 million house in Ealing he has little in common with those that he claims to represent. Except that he doesn’t represent train drivers. ASLEF is the train drivers union. As usual, you have picked up the message that you have been programmed to pick up up and then propagate it without even considering the validity of what you are writing. The RMT represent train and station cleaners, station and ticketing staff, guards and hospitality staff. Many earn the living wage whilst the “well off” contracted workers are paid on average around £24,000. Why should it be OK for train companies to receive a guaranteed £500 million a year in profit, pay their Executives literally hundreds of thousands a year, have a mechanism to automatically put up rail fares every year by more than the RPI and yet refuse the lowest workers in their organisation an RPI matching wage rise? How can that be right? I hope the QT audience has some of the local traders who have lost most of their business over the last couple of days. They should ask if the RMT is going to reimburse them for the money lost due to the RMT strike action. Why would they do that? Are Brexit voters going to reimburse business that have lost money since we left the EU? Nice effort of deflection but it has nothing to do with the RMT strike action. Try sticking to the actual topic of the thread and not making everything about Brexit. Do you believe in democracy ? Will of the people etc As the RMT supported Brexit maybe one of those business you mentioned could ask on QT if the RMT is going to reimburse them. How do you feel about that? I couldn’t care less if they supported Brexit, di you respect their democratic right to strike or not As a RMT member I support workers rights to have industrial action. I don't support the way the RMT has organised a country wide week of industrial action. Each dispute will have its individual grievance with the train operator and should be treated as such. I also do not agree in mixing wage negotiations with other grievances. Head office has tried that with us and we told them to fuck off. They had a vote, they voted to strike, either you accept their democratic right or you don’t ? In over 30 years I have never had a ballot paper on working to rule, which should be the first step in any industrial action. The RMT's answer is always to vote for a strike. A period of working to rule would cause any train operators more disruption over a period of time than have one or two days of strike action. The point best to remember is that working to rule means none of the unions members lose any basic pay. Plus the travelling public can still get from A to B with some disruption. Then why are you in the RMT? If you have to be because of your job then why are you in that job? Frankly it's got bugger all to do with you. To me you appear to be brainwashed into this opinion it's the workers against the government. Knowing how the RMT head office works and having met Mr Lynch I can safely say that they are using the people on strikes as pawns. I voted for somebody else when voting for a new head of the RMT. Look, you have a choice , you aren’t forced into being a member of the RMT, the majority of the people who are members voted to strike, either accept it or leave, You lost, get over it
The disputes have nothing to do with me so I'm not on strike.
You appear to actually know very little about what is going on.
Try not believing all the leftie propaganda you are reading.
Where do I find this ‘leftie propaganda? , you appear to dismiss and are struggling to accept democracy and the will of the people , and are a ‘strikemoaner’ . Imagine thinking the RMT should pay any compensation to people who haven’t ‘properly planned’ for the strikes, laughable, does any of this sound familiar?
You seem to be at odd with yourself when you use the phrase "democracy and the will of the people.!"
As I stated before, I support workers vote to strike.
I don't support RMT head office using different disputes across different train operators to bring the country to a halt.
Like I said they are using the workers as pawns.
And the majority of the RMT members voted to strike, why should they pay anyone any ‘compensation’ like you suggested?
You mentioned Brexit voters paying compensation to businesses. I pointed out to you that the RMT supported Brexit and urged their members to vote for it.
You mentioned that the RMT should pay compensation to people affected by the strikes, I responded by asking you if you think Brexit voters should pay compensation to people affected by Brexit. So, do you still think the RMT should pay compensation ? Btw, I couldn’t care less if the RMT backed Brexit and I don’t think Brexit voters should pay compensation "I think the strike is affecting the little people. People who can't work from home. Children's exams, small business set up around railway stations, taxi drivers etc. Plus of course the people on strike who will not get paid for those days. | |||
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"It's been interesting watching Mick Lynch pop up on various media outlets. So far, he's made a fool of MPs, presenters + journalists across the board." Right or wrong he is from the industry, it's his subject and he knows every corner and angle from his perspective. The journalists and politicians are all generalists, get a briefing paper just prior to the interview and then face Lynch the expert. That Mr.Lynch is sharp doesn't make him right however...... | |||
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"It's been interesting watching Mick Lynch pop up on various media outlets. So far, he's made a fool of MPs, presenters + journalists across the board. . Mick Lynch is highly unlikely to make a fool of anyone. Most people can see him for what he is. A man who has little regard for working class people and fails to recognise how overpaid his members actually are. His demands are totally unjustified and we should be seeking to cut the pay of train drivers . It is hardly a skilled job. Any pay aware made to railway staff has to be financed by ordinary members of the public . With a salary in excess of £120,000 per annum and a £1 million house in Ealing he has little in common with those that he claims to represent. Except that he doesn’t represent train drivers. ASLEF is the train drivers union. As usual, you have picked up the message that you have been programmed to pick up up and then propagate it without even considering the validity of what you are writing. The RMT represent train and station cleaners, station and ticketing staff, guards and hospitality staff. Many earn the living wage whilst the “well off” contracted workers are paid on average around £24,000. Why should it be OK for train companies to receive a guaranteed £500 million a year in profit, pay their Executives literally hundreds of thousands a year, have a mechanism to automatically put up rail fares every year by more than the RPI and yet refuse the lowest workers in their organisation an RPI matching wage rise? How can that be right? I hope the QT audience has some of the local traders who have lost most of their business over the last couple of days. They should ask if the RMT is going to reimburse them for the money lost due to the RMT strike action. Why would they do that? Are Brexit voters going to reimburse business that have lost money since we left the EU? Nice effort of deflection but it has nothing to do with the RMT strike action. Try sticking to the actual topic of the thread and not making everything about Brexit. Do you believe in democracy ? Will of the people etc As the RMT supported Brexit maybe one of those business you mentioned could ask on QT if the RMT is going to reimburse them. How do you feel about that? I couldn’t care less if they supported Brexit, di you respect their democratic right to strike or not As a RMT member I support workers rights to have industrial action. I don't support the way the RMT has organised a country wide week of industrial action. Each dispute will have its individual grievance with the train operator and should be treated as such. I also do not agree in mixing wage negotiations with other grievances. Head office has tried that with us and we told them to fuck off. They had a vote, they voted to strike, either you accept their democratic right or you don’t ? In over 30 years I have never had a ballot paper on working to rule, which should be the first step in any industrial action. The RMT's answer is always to vote for a strike. A period of working to rule would cause any train operators more disruption over a period of time than have one or two days of strike action. The point best to remember is that working to rule means none of the unions members lose any basic pay. Plus the travelling public can still get from A to B with some disruption. Then why are you in the RMT? If you have to be because of your job then why are you in that job? Frankly it's got bugger all to do with you. To me you appear to be brainwashed into this opinion it's the workers against the government. Knowing how the RMT head office works and having met Mr Lynch I can safely say that they are using the people on strikes as pawns. I voted for somebody else when voting for a new head of the RMT. Look, you have a choice , you aren’t forced into being a member of the RMT, the majority of the people who are members voted to strike, either accept it or leave, You lost, get over it
The disputes have nothing to do with me so I'm not on strike.
You appear to actually know very little about what is going on.
Try not believing all the leftie propaganda you are reading.
Where do I find this ‘leftie propaganda? , you appear to dismiss and are struggling to accept democracy and the will of the people , and are a ‘strikemoaner’ . Imagine thinking the RMT should pay any compensation to people who haven’t ‘properly planned’ for the strikes, laughable, does any of this sound familiar?
You seem to be at odd with yourself when you use the phrase "democracy and the will of the people.!"
As I stated before, I support workers vote to strike.
I don't support RMT head office using different disputes across different train operators to bring the country to a halt.
Like I said they are using the workers as pawns.
And the majority of the RMT members voted to strike, why should they pay anyone any ‘compensation’ like you suggested?
You mentioned Brexit voters paying compensation to businesses. I pointed out to you that the RMT supported Brexit and urged their members to vote for it.
You mentioned that the RMT should pay compensation to people affected by the strikes, I responded by asking you if you think Brexit voters should pay compensation to people affected by Brexit. So, do you still think the RMT should pay compensation ? Btw, I couldn’t care less if the RMT backed Brexit and I don’t think Brexit voters should pay compensation
I think the strike is affecting the little people. People who can't work from home. Children's exams, small business set up around railway stations, taxi drivers etc.
Plus of course the people on strike who will not get paid for those days."Fair enough, but the people who are on strike have voted for it ? | |||
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"It's been interesting watching Mick Lynch pop up on various media outlets. So far, he's made a fool of MPs, presenters + journalists across the board. Right or wrong he is from the industry, it's his subject and he knows every corner and angle from his perspective. The journalists and politicians are all generalists, get a briefing paper just prior to the interview and then face Lynch the expert. That Mr.Lynch is sharp doesn't make him right however......" No, maybe not , but he is there for only one reason, to protect the interest of the majority of RMT members, | |||
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"It's been interesting watching Mick Lynch pop up on various media outlets. So far, he's made a fool of MPs, presenters + journalists across the board. . Mick Lynch is highly unlikely to make a fool of anyone. Most people can see him for what he is. A man who has little regard for working class people and fails to recognise how overpaid his members actually are. His demands are totally unjustified and we should be seeking to cut the pay of train drivers . It is hardly a skilled job. Any pay aware made to railway staff has to be financed by ordinary members of the public . With a salary in excess of £120,000 per annum and a £1 million house in Ealing he has little in common with those that he claims to represent. Except that he doesn’t represent train drivers. ASLEF is the train drivers union. As usual, you have picked up the message that you have been programmed to pick up up and then propagate it without even considering the validity of what you are writing. The RMT represent train and station cleaners, station and ticketing staff, guards and hospitality staff. Many earn the living wage whilst the “well off” contracted workers are paid on average around £24,000. Why should it be OK for train companies to receive a guaranteed £500 million a year in profit, pay their Executives literally hundreds of thousands a year, have a mechanism to automatically put up rail fares every year by more than the RPI and yet refuse the lowest workers in their organisation an RPI matching wage rise? How can that be right? I hope the QT audience has some of the local traders who have lost most of their business over the last couple of days. They should ask if the RMT is going to reimburse them for the money lost due to the RMT strike action. Why would they do that? Are Brexit voters going to reimburse business that have lost money since we left the EU? Nice effort of deflection but it has nothing to do with the RMT strike action. Try sticking to the actual topic of the thread and not making everything about Brexit. Do you believe in democracy ? Will of the people etc As the RMT supported Brexit maybe one of those business you mentioned could ask on QT if the RMT is going to reimburse them. How do you feel about that? I couldn’t care less if they supported Brexit, di you respect their democratic right to strike or not As a RMT member I support workers rights to have industrial action. I don't support the way the RMT has organised a country wide week of industrial action. Each dispute will have its individual grievance with the train operator and should be treated as such. I also do not agree in mixing wage negotiations with other grievances. Head office has tried that with us and we told them to fuck off. They had a vote, they voted to strike, either you accept their democratic right or you don’t ? In over 30 years I have never had a ballot paper on working to rule, which should be the first step in any industrial action. The RMT's answer is always to vote for a strike. A period of working to rule would cause any train operators more disruption over a period of time than have one or two days of strike action. The point best to remember is that working to rule means none of the unions members lose any basic pay. Plus the travelling public can still get from A to B with some disruption. Then why are you in the RMT? If you have to be because of your job then why are you in that job? Frankly it's got bugger all to do with you. To me you appear to be brainwashed into this opinion it's the workers against the government. Knowing how the RMT head office works and having met Mr Lynch I can safely say that they are using the people on strikes as pawns. I voted for somebody else when voting for a new head of the RMT. Look, you have a choice , you aren’t forced into being a member of the RMT, the majority of the people who are members voted to strike, either accept it or leave, You lost, get over it
The disputes have nothing to do with me so I'm not on strike.
You appear to actually know very little about what is going on.
Try not believing all the leftie propaganda you are reading.
Where do I find this ‘leftie propaganda? , you appear to dismiss and are struggling to accept democracy and the will of the people , and are a ‘strikemoaner’ . Imagine thinking the RMT should pay any compensation to people who haven’t ‘properly planned’ for the strikes, laughable, does any of this sound familiar?
You seem to be at odd with yourself when you use the phrase "democracy and the will of the people.!"
As I stated before, I support workers vote to strike.
I don't support RMT head office using different disputes across different train operators to bring the country to a halt.
Like I said they are using the workers as pawns.
And the majority of the RMT members voted to strike, why should they pay anyone any ‘compensation’ like you suggested?
You mentioned Brexit voters paying compensation to businesses. I pointed out to you that the RMT supported Brexit and urged their members to vote for it.
You mentioned that the RMT should pay compensation to people affected by the strikes, I responded by asking you if you think Brexit voters should pay compensation to people affected by Brexit. So, do you still think the RMT should pay compensation ? Btw, I couldn’t care less if the RMT backed Brexit and I don’t think Brexit voters should pay compensation
I think the strike is affecting the little people. People who can't work from home. Children's exams, small business set up around railway stations, taxi drivers etc.
Plus of course the people on strike who will not get paid for those days.
Fair enough, but the people who are on strike have voted for it ? "the union have a strike fund for just this eventuality ant member struggling financially during the strike can request a grant to help them through . | |||
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"It's been interesting watching Mick Lynch pop up on various media outlets. So far, he's made a fool of MPs, presenters + journalists across the board. . Mick Lynch is highly unlikely to make a fool of anyone. Most people can see him for what he is. A man who has little regard for working class people and fails to recognise how overpaid his members actually are. His demands are totally unjustified and we should be seeking to cut the pay of train drivers . It is hardly a skilled job. Any pay aware made to railway staff has to be financed by ordinary members of the public . With a salary in excess of £120,000 per annum and a £1 million house in Ealing he has little in common with those that he claims to represent. Except that he doesn’t represent train drivers. ASLEF is the train drivers union. As usual, you have picked up the message that you have been programmed to pick up up and then propagate it without even considering the validity of what you are writing. The RMT represent train and station cleaners, station and ticketing staff, guards and hospitality staff. Many earn the living wage whilst the “well off” contracted workers are paid on average around £24,000. Why should it be OK for train companies to receive a guaranteed £500 million a year in profit, pay their Executives literally hundreds of thousands a year, have a mechanism to automatically put up rail fares every year by more than the RPI and yet refuse the lowest workers in their organisation an RPI matching wage rise? How can that be right? I hope the QT audience has some of the local traders who have lost most of their business over the last couple of days. They should ask if the RMT is going to reimburse them for the money lost due to the RMT strike action. Why would they do that? Are Brexit voters going to reimburse business that have lost money since we left the EU? Nice effort of deflection but it has nothing to do with the RMT strike action. Try sticking to the actual topic of the thread and not making everything about Brexit. Do you believe in democracy ? Will of the people etc As the RMT supported Brexit maybe one of those business you mentioned could ask on QT if the RMT is going to reimburse them. How do you feel about that? I couldn’t care less if they supported Brexit, di you respect their democratic right to strike or not As a RMT member I support workers rights to have industrial action. I don't support the way the RMT has organised a country wide week of industrial action. Each dispute will have its individual grievance with the train operator and should be treated as such. I also do not agree in mixing wage negotiations with other grievances. Head office has tried that with us and we told them to fuck off. They had a vote, they voted to strike, either you accept their democratic right or you don’t ? In over 30 years I have never had a ballot paper on working to rule, which should be the first step in any industrial action. The RMT's answer is always to vote for a strike. A period of working to rule would cause any train operators more disruption over a period of time than have one or two days of strike action. The point best to remember is that working to rule means none of the unions members lose any basic pay. Plus the travelling public can still get from A to B with some disruption. Then why are you in the RMT? If you have to be because of your job then why are you in that job? Frankly it's got bugger all to do with you. To me you appear to be brainwashed into this opinion it's the workers against the government. Knowing how the RMT head office works and having met Mr Lynch I can safely say that they are using the people on strikes as pawns. I voted for somebody else when voting for a new head of the RMT. Look, you have a choice , you aren’t forced into being a member of the RMT, the majority of the people who are members voted to strike, either accept it or leave, You lost, get over it
The disputes have nothing to do with me so I'm not on strike.
You appear to actually know very little about what is going on.
Try not believing all the leftie propaganda you are reading.
Where do I find this ‘leftie propaganda? , you appear to dismiss and are struggling to accept democracy and the will of the people , and are a ‘strikemoaner’ . Imagine thinking the RMT should pay any compensation to people who haven’t ‘properly planned’ for the strikes, laughable, does any of this sound familiar?
You seem to be at odd with yourself when you use the phrase "democracy and the will of the people.!"
As I stated before, I support workers vote to strike.
I don't support RMT head office using different disputes across different train operators to bring the country to a halt.
Like I said they are using the workers as pawns.
And the majority of the RMT members voted to strike, why should they pay anyone any ‘compensation’ like you suggested?
You mentioned Brexit voters paying compensation to businesses. I pointed out to you that the RMT supported Brexit and urged their members to vote for it.
You mentioned that the RMT should pay compensation to people affected by the strikes, I responded by asking you if you think Brexit voters should pay compensation to people affected by Brexit. So, do you still think the RMT should pay compensation ? Btw, I couldn’t care less if the RMT backed Brexit and I don’t think Brexit voters should pay compensation
I think the strike is affecting the little people. People who can't work from home. Children's exams, small business set up around railway stations, taxi drivers etc.
Plus of course the people on strike who will not get paid for those days.
Fair enough, but the people who are on strike have voted for it ? "Not disputing that at all. But if the dispute goes on longer as Mr Lynch is saying he will start to lose the support of even those who voted to strike. Also on a local level when a strike happens the local branch tends to lose members. | |||
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"It's been interesting watching Mick Lynch pop up on various media outlets. So far, he's made a fool of MPs, presenters + journalists across the board. . Mick Lynch is highly unlikely to make a fool of anyone. Most people can see him for what he is. A man who has little regard for working class people and fails to recognise how overpaid his members actually are. His demands are totally unjustified and we should be seeking to cut the pay of train drivers . It is hardly a skilled job. Any pay aware made to railway staff has to be financed by ordinary members of the public . With a salary in excess of £120,000 per annum and a £1 million house in Ealing he has little in common with those that he claims to represent. Except that he doesn’t represent train drivers. ASLEF is the train drivers union. As usual, you have picked up the message that you have been programmed to pick up up and then propagate it without even considering the validity of what you are writing. The RMT represent train and station cleaners, station and ticketing staff, guards and hospitality staff. Many earn the living wage whilst the “well off” contracted workers are paid on average around £24,000. Why should it be OK for train companies to receive a guaranteed £500 million a year in profit, pay their Executives literally hundreds of thousands a year, have a mechanism to automatically put up rail fares every year by more than the RPI and yet refuse the lowest workers in their organisation an RPI matching wage rise? How can that be right? I hope the QT audience has some of the local traders who have lost most of their business over the last couple of days. They should ask if the RMT is going to reimburse them for the money lost due to the RMT strike action. Why would they do that? Are Brexit voters going to reimburse business that have lost money since we left the EU? Nice effort of deflection but it has nothing to do with the RMT strike action. Try sticking to the actual topic of the thread and not making everything about Brexit. Do you believe in democracy ? Will of the people etc As the RMT supported Brexit maybe one of those business you mentioned could ask on QT if the RMT is going to reimburse them. How do you feel about that? I couldn’t care less if they supported Brexit, di you respect their democratic right to strike or not As a RMT member I support workers rights to have industrial action. I don't support the way the RMT has organised a country wide week of industrial action. Each dispute will have its individual grievance with the train operator and should be treated as such. I also do not agree in mixing wage negotiations with other grievances. Head office has tried that with us and we told them to fuck off. They had a vote, they voted to strike, either you accept their democratic right or you don’t ? In over 30 years I have never had a ballot paper on working to rule, which should be the first step in any industrial action. The RMT's answer is always to vote for a strike. A period of working to rule would cause any train operators more disruption over a period of time than have one or two days of strike action. The point best to remember is that working to rule means none of the unions members lose any basic pay. Plus the travelling public can still get from A to B with some disruption. Then why are you in the RMT? If you have to be because of your job then why are you in that job? Frankly it's got bugger all to do with you. To me you appear to be brainwashed into this opinion it's the workers against the government. Knowing how the RMT head office works and having met Mr Lynch I can safely say that they are using the people on strikes as pawns. I voted for somebody else when voting for a new head of the RMT. Look, you have a choice , you aren’t forced into being a member of the RMT, the majority of the people who are members voted to strike, either accept it or leave, You lost, get over it
The disputes have nothing to do with me so I'm not on strike.
You appear to actually know very little about what is going on.
Try not believing all the leftie propaganda you are reading.
Where do I find this ‘leftie propaganda? , you appear to dismiss and are struggling to accept democracy and the will of the people , and are a ‘strikemoaner’ . Imagine thinking the RMT should pay any compensation to people who haven’t ‘properly planned’ for the strikes, laughable, does any of this sound familiar?
You seem to be at odd with yourself when you use the phrase "democracy and the will of the people.!"
As I stated before, I support workers vote to strike.
I don't support RMT head office using different disputes across different train operators to bring the country to a halt.
Like I said they are using the workers as pawns.
And the majority of the RMT members voted to strike, why should they pay anyone any ‘compensation’ like you suggested?
You mentioned Brexit voters paying compensation to businesses. I pointed out to you that the RMT supported Brexit and urged their members to vote for it.
You mentioned that the RMT should pay compensation to people affected by the strikes, I responded by asking you if you think Brexit voters should pay compensation to people affected by Brexit. So, do you still think the RMT should pay compensation ? Btw, I couldn’t care less if the RMT backed Brexit and I don’t think Brexit voters should pay compensation
I think the strike is affecting the little people. People who can't work from home. Children's exams, small business set up around railway stations, taxi drivers etc.
Plus of course the people on strike who will not get paid for those days.
Fair enough, but the people who are on strike have voted for it ?
Not disputing that at all.
But if the dispute goes on longer as Mr Lynch is saying he will start to lose the support of even those who voted to strike.
Also on a local level when a strike happens the local branch tends to lose members."But you are stating that they should pay compensation? Or was that said in jest? We are in for a number of strikes this year, people have had enough, | |||
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"It's been interesting watching Mick Lynch pop up on various media outlets. So far, he's made a fool of MPs, presenters + journalists across the board. . Mick Lynch is highly unlikely to make a fool of anyone. Most people can see him for what he is. A man who has little regard for working class people and fails to recognise how overpaid his members actually are. His demands are totally unjustified and we should be seeking to cut the pay of train drivers . It is hardly a skilled job. Any pay aware made to railway staff has to be financed by ordinary members of the public . With a salary in excess of £120,000 per annum and a £1 million house in Ealing he has little in common with those that he claims to represent. Except that he doesn’t represent train drivers. ASLEF is the train drivers union. As usual, you have picked up the message that you have been programmed to pick up up and then propagate it without even considering the validity of what you are writing. The RMT represent train and station cleaners, station and ticketing staff, guards and hospitality staff. Many earn the living wage whilst the “well off” contracted workers are paid on average around £24,000. Why should it be OK for train companies to receive a guaranteed £500 million a year in profit, pay their Executives literally hundreds of thousands a year, have a mechanism to automatically put up rail fares every year by more than the RPI and yet refuse the lowest workers in their organisation an RPI matching wage rise? How can that be right? I hope the QT audience has some of the local traders who have lost most of their business over the last couple of days. They should ask if the RMT is going to reimburse them for the money lost due to the RMT strike action. Why would they do that? Are Brexit voters going to reimburse business that have lost money since we left the EU? Nice effort of deflection but it has nothing to do with the RMT strike action. Try sticking to the actual topic of the thread and not making everything about Brexit. Do you believe in democracy ? Will of the people etc As the RMT supported Brexit maybe one of those business you mentioned could ask on QT if the RMT is going to reimburse them. How do you feel about that? I couldn’t care less if they supported Brexit, di you respect their democratic right to strike or not As a RMT member I support workers rights to have industrial action. I don't support the way the RMT has organised a country wide week of industrial action. Each dispute will have its individual grievance with the train operator and should be treated as such. I also do not agree in mixing wage negotiations with other grievances. Head office has tried that with us and we told them to fuck off. They had a vote, they voted to strike, either you accept their democratic right or you don’t ? In over 30 years I have never had a ballot paper on working to rule, which should be the first step in any industrial action. The RMT's answer is always to vote for a strike. A period of working to rule would cause any train operators more disruption over a period of time than have one or two days of strike action. The point best to remember is that working to rule means none of the unions members lose any basic pay. Plus the travelling public can still get from A to B with some disruption. Then why are you in the RMT? If you have to be because of your job then why are you in that job? Frankly it's got bugger all to do with you. To me you appear to be brainwashed into this opinion it's the workers against the government. Knowing how the RMT head office works and having met Mr Lynch I can safely say that they are using the people on strikes as pawns. I voted for somebody else when voting for a new head of the RMT. Look, you have a choice , you aren’t forced into being a member of the RMT, the majority of the people who are members voted to strike, either accept it or leave, You lost, get over it
The disputes have nothing to do with me so I'm not on strike.
You appear to actually know very little about what is going on.
Try not believing all the leftie propaganda you are reading.
Where do I find this ‘leftie propaganda? , you appear to dismiss and are struggling to accept democracy and the will of the people , and are a ‘strikemoaner’ . Imagine thinking the RMT should pay any compensation to people who haven’t ‘properly planned’ for the strikes, laughable, does any of this sound familiar?
You seem to be at odd with yourself when you use the phrase "democracy and the will of the people.!"
As I stated before, I support workers vote to strike.
I don't support RMT head office using different disputes across different train operators to bring the country to a halt.
Like I said they are using the workers as pawns.
And the majority of the RMT members voted to strike, why should they pay anyone any ‘compensation’ like you suggested?
You mentioned Brexit voters paying compensation to businesses. I pointed out to you that the RMT supported Brexit and urged their members to vote for it.
You mentioned that the RMT should pay compensation to people affected by the strikes, I responded by asking you if you think Brexit voters should pay compensation to people affected by Brexit. So, do you still think the RMT should pay compensation ? Btw, I couldn’t care less if the RMT backed Brexit and I don’t think Brexit voters should pay compensation
I think the strike is affecting the little people. People who can't work from home. Children's exams, small business set up around railway stations, taxi drivers etc.
Plus of course the people on strike who will not get paid for those days.
Fair enough, but the people who are on strike have voted for it ?
Not disputing that at all.
But if the dispute goes on longer as Mr Lynch is saying he will start to lose the support of even those who voted to strike.
Also on a local level when a strike happens the local branch tends to lose members.
But you are stating that they should pay compensation? Or was that said in jest? We are in for a number of strikes this year, people have had enough, "People will have had enough if various unions decide to strike. The country has moved on from the seventies and people in general didn't like all the strikes that happened back then. | |||
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"It's been interesting watching Mick Lynch pop up on various media outlets. So far, he's made a fool of MPs, presenters + journalists across the board. . Mick Lynch is highly unlikely to make a fool of anyone. Most people can see him for what he is. A man who has little regard for working class people and fails to recognise how overpaid his members actually are. His demands are totally unjustified and we should be seeking to cut the pay of train drivers . It is hardly a skilled job. Any pay aware made to railway staff has to be financed by ordinary members of the public . With a salary in excess of £120,000 per annum and a £1 million house in Ealing he has little in common with those that he claims to represent. Except that he doesn’t represent train drivers. ASLEF is the train drivers union. As usual, you have picked up the message that you have been programmed to pick up up and then propagate it without even considering the validity of what you are writing. The RMT represent train and station cleaners, station and ticketing staff, guards and hospitality staff. Many earn the living wage whilst the “well off” contracted workers are paid on average around £24,000. Why should it be OK for train companies to receive a guaranteed £500 million a year in profit, pay their Executives literally hundreds of thousands a year, have a mechanism to automatically put up rail fares every year by more than the RPI and yet refuse the lowest workers in their organisation an RPI matching wage rise? How can that be right? I hope the QT audience has some of the local traders who have lost most of their business over the last couple of days. They should ask if the RMT is going to reimburse them for the money lost due to the RMT strike action. Why would they do that? Are Brexit voters going to reimburse business that have lost money since we left the EU? Nice effort of deflection but it has nothing to do with the RMT strike action. Try sticking to the actual topic of the thread and not making everything about Brexit. Do you believe in democracy ? Will of the people etc As the RMT supported Brexit maybe one of those business you mentioned could ask on QT if the RMT is going to reimburse them. How do you feel about that? I couldn’t care less if they supported Brexit, di you respect their democratic right to strike or not As a RMT member I support workers rights to have industrial action. I don't support the way the RMT has organised a country wide week of industrial action. Each dispute will have its individual grievance with the train operator and should be treated as such. I also do not agree in mixing wage negotiations with other grievances. Head office has tried that with us and we told them to fuck off. They had a vote, they voted to strike, either you accept their democratic right or you don’t ? In over 30 years I have never had a ballot paper on working to rule, which should be the first step in any industrial action. The RMT's answer is always to vote for a strike. A period of working to rule would cause any train operators more disruption over a period of time than have one or two days of strike action. The point best to remember is that working to rule means none of the unions members lose any basic pay. Plus the travelling public can still get from A to B with some disruption. Then why are you in the RMT? If you have to be because of your job then why are you in that job? Frankly it's got bugger all to do with you. To me you appear to be brainwashed into this opinion it's the workers against the government. Knowing how the RMT head office works and having met Mr Lynch I can safely say that they are using the people on strikes as pawns. I voted for somebody else when voting for a new head of the RMT. Look, you have a choice , you aren’t forced into being a member of the RMT, the majority of the people who are members voted to strike, either accept it or leave, You lost, get over it
The disputes have nothing to do with me so I'm not on strike.
You appear to actually know very little about what is going on.
Try not believing all the leftie propaganda you are reading.
Where do I find this ‘leftie propaganda? , you appear to dismiss and are struggling to accept democracy and the will of the people , and are a ‘strikemoaner’ . Imagine thinking the RMT should pay any compensation to people who haven’t ‘properly planned’ for the strikes, laughable, does any of this sound familiar?
You seem to be at odd with yourself when you use the phrase "democracy and the will of the people.!"
As I stated before, I support workers vote to strike.
I don't support RMT head office using different disputes across different train operators to bring the country to a halt.
Like I said they are using the workers as pawns.
And the majority of the RMT members voted to strike, why should they pay anyone any ‘compensation’ like you suggested?
You mentioned Brexit voters paying compensation to businesses. I pointed out to you that the RMT supported Brexit and urged their members to vote for it.
You mentioned that the RMT should pay compensation to people affected by the strikes, I responded by asking you if you think Brexit voters should pay compensation to people affected by Brexit. So, do you still think the RMT should pay compensation ? Btw, I couldn’t care less if the RMT backed Brexit and I don’t think Brexit voters should pay compensation
I think the strike is affecting the little people. People who can't work from home. Children's exams, small business set up around railway stations, taxi drivers etc.
Plus of course the people on strike who will not get paid for those days.
Fair enough, but the people who are on strike have voted for it ?
Not disputing that at all.
But if the dispute goes on longer as Mr Lynch is saying he will start to lose the support of even those who voted to strike.
Also on a local level when a strike happens the local branch tends to lose members.
But you are stating that they should pay compensation? Or was that said in jest? We are in for a number of strikes this year, people have had enough,
People will have had enough if various unions decide to strike.
The country has moved on from the seventies and people in general didn't like all the strikes that happened back then."Nobody likes strikes, but we are going to have a lot of them, this government will try and cause division, pitting working people against working people , you either fall for that or look at the bigger picture. | |||
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"It's been interesting watching Mick Lynch pop up on various media outlets. So far, he's made a fool of MPs, presenters + journalists across the board. . Mick Lynch is highly unlikely to make a fool of anyone. Most people can see him for what he is. A man who has little regard for working class people and fails to recognise how overpaid his members actually are. His demands are totally unjustified and we should be seeking to cut the pay of train drivers . It is hardly a skilled job. Any pay aware made to railway staff has to be financed by ordinary members of the public . With a salary in excess of £120,000 per annum and a £1 million house in Ealing he has little in common with those that he claims to represent. Except that he doesn’t represent train drivers. ASLEF is the train drivers union. As usual, you have picked up the message that you have been programmed to pick up up and then propagate it without even considering the validity of what you are writing. The RMT represent train and station cleaners, station and ticketing staff, guards and hospitality staff. Many earn the living wage whilst the “well off” contracted workers are paid on average around £24,000. Why should it be OK for train companies to receive a guaranteed £500 million a year in profit, pay their Executives literally hundreds of thousands a year, have a mechanism to automatically put up rail fares every year by more than the RPI and yet refuse the lowest workers in their organisation an RPI matching wage rise? How can that be right? I hope the QT audience has some of the local traders who have lost most of their business over the last couple of days. They should ask if the RMT is going to reimburse them for the money lost due to the RMT strike action. Why would they do that? Are Brexit voters going to reimburse business that have lost money since we left the EU? Nice effort of deflection but it has nothing to do with the RMT strike action. Try sticking to the actual topic of the thread and not making everything about Brexit. Do you believe in democracy ? Will of the people etc As the RMT supported Brexit maybe one of those business you mentioned could ask on QT if the RMT is going to reimburse them. How do you feel about that? I couldn’t care less if they supported Brexit, di you respect their democratic right to strike or not As a RMT member I support workers rights to have industrial action. I don't support the way the RMT has organised a country wide week of industrial action. Each dispute will have its individual grievance with the train operator and should be treated as such. I also do not agree in mixing wage negotiations with other grievances. Head office has tried that with us and we told them to fuck off. They had a vote, they voted to strike, either you accept their democratic right or you don’t ? In over 30 years I have never had a ballot paper on working to rule, which should be the first step in any industrial action. The RMT's answer is always to vote for a strike. A period of working to rule would cause any train operators more disruption over a period of time than have one or two days of strike action. The point best to remember is that working to rule means none of the unions members lose any basic pay. Plus the travelling public can still get from A to B with some disruption. Then why are you in the RMT? If you have to be because of your job then why are you in that job? Frankly it's got bugger all to do with you. To me you appear to be brainwashed into this opinion it's the workers against the government. Knowing how the RMT head office works and having met Mr Lynch I can safely say that they are using the people on strikes as pawns. I voted for somebody else when voting for a new head of the RMT. Look, you have a choice , you aren’t forced into being a member of the RMT, the majority of the people who are members voted to strike, either accept it or leave, You lost, get over it
The disputes have nothing to do with me so I'm not on strike.
You appear to actually know very little about what is going on.
Try not believing all the leftie propaganda you are reading.
Where do I find this ‘leftie propaganda? , you appear to dismiss and are struggling to accept democracy and the will of the people , and are a ‘strikemoaner’ . Imagine thinking the RMT should pay any compensation to people who haven’t ‘properly planned’ for the strikes, laughable, does any of this sound familiar?
You seem to be at odd with yourself when you use the phrase "democracy and the will of the people.!"
As I stated before, I support workers vote to strike.
I don't support RMT head office using different disputes across different train operators to bring the country to a halt.
Like I said they are using the workers as pawns.
And the majority of the RMT members voted to strike, why should they pay anyone any ‘compensation’ like you suggested?
You mentioned Brexit voters paying compensation to businesses. I pointed out to you that the RMT supported Brexit and urged their members to vote for it.
You mentioned that the RMT should pay compensation to people affected by the strikes, I responded by asking you if you think Brexit voters should pay compensation to people affected by Brexit. So, do you still think the RMT should pay compensation ? Btw, I couldn’t care less if the RMT backed Brexit and I don’t think Brexit voters should pay compensation
I think the strike is affecting the little people. People who can't work from home. Children's exams, small business set up around railway stations, taxi drivers etc.
Plus of course the people on strike who will not get paid for those days.
Fair enough, but the people who are on strike have voted for it ?
Not disputing that at all.
But if the dispute goes on longer as Mr Lynch is saying he will start to lose the support of even those who voted to strike.
Also on a local level when a strike happens the local branch tends to lose members."from personal experiance thats bollocks they tend to gain members in and around a strike as they scrabble to protect themselves | |||
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"Hmmm... interesting QT episode. The most nakedly right wing audience I've seen for ages on it. Bruce even said at one point she knew there were a lot of Tories in the audience. + when the Tory on the panel wasn't defending her position enough, Bruce spoke up for her, literally saying she was doing so. And Bruce talked over + shut down Lynch a lot." Did you see that fuckwit who was rambling incoherently about the ‘surrender act’ , thick as shit | |||
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"Am I right in thinking the workers at Euston and St Pancras work for different companies so can’t cross the road and work? Thats correct, although a better analogy would be St Pancras and King's Cross less than 100 metres apart." Thanks I think the guy last night was confusing union membership with employer. So if you work for Tesco and there’s an ASDA built next door you don’t stack both shops shelves. | |||
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"Hmmm... interesting QT episode. The most nakedly right wing audience I've seen for ages on it. Bruce even said at one point she knew there were a lot of Tories in the audience. + when the Tory on the panel wasn't defending her position enough, Bruce spoke up for her, literally saying she was doing so. And Bruce talked over + shut down Lynch a lot." But I've been told BBC is left wing trash!!!!! | |||
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"Hmmm... interesting QT episode. The most nakedly right wing audience I've seen for ages on it. Bruce even said at one point she knew there were a lot of Tories in the audience. + when the Tory on the panel wasn't defending her position enough, Bruce spoke up for her, literally saying she was doing so. And Bruce talked over + shut down Lynch a lot. But I've been told BBC is left wing trash!!!!!" Not so much these days…. I blame it on Laura Kuensberg…. Too close to Boris when she became head of news and now the BBC is on the back foot with a weak DG not standing up to that c*ntess Dorries | |||
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"Hmmm... interesting QT episode. The most nakedly right wing audience I've seen for ages on it. Bruce even said at one point she knew there were a lot of Tories in the audience. + when the Tory on the panel wasn't defending her position enough, Bruce spoke up for her, literally saying she was doing so. And Bruce talked over + shut down Lynch a lot. Did you see that fuckwit who was rambling incoherently about the ‘surrender act’ , thick as shit "he was my favourite! "The northern Irish can't vote on their own laws ... " ... Let's ignore that they are in this pickle despite not wanting to leave ! And the surrender act stopped us from leaving the EU (irrc we were out of the EU by then) | |||
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