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"What a surprise! https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/david-lammy-faces-standards-inquiry-over-earnings-for-speeches-hg60q0tzd " Again not as good as the story where the slob was trying to use public funds to give Carrie a 100k job to fuck her behind his previous wife’s back. | |||
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"What a surprise! https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/david-lammy-faces-standards-inquiry-over-earnings-for-speeches-hg60q0tzd " People who vote for the Conservatives provide the best comedy on here. Love it. | |||
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"What a surprise! https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/david-lammy-faces-standards-inquiry-over-earnings-for-speeches-hg60q0tzd People who vote for the Conservatives provide the best comedy on here. Love it." And you never miss an opportunity to show your political bent. | |||
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"What a surprise! https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/david-lammy-faces-standards-inquiry-over-earnings-for-speeches-hg60q0tzd People who vote for the Conservatives provide the best comedy on here. Love it. And you never miss an opportunity to show your political bent. " What is my political bent? This place is funny though. Tories - Billions handed to their friends and neighbors for PPE contracts. Weekly sleaze, lies, corrupt behaviour etc. Conservative voters defending them to the hilt at all costs. Attacking anyone who suggests that British people deserve better. Opposition party - someone accused of something much more minor. Conservative voters with a collective boner calling it out. The utter blind devotion to all things Tory is astounding. | |||
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"I think Johnson arranging to have a journalist beaten up is far worse" And pocketing money quietly for wallpaper. Oh definitely don’t forget making sure the times doesn’t publish the truth about him giving his liver a £100k job. Is that poor admin or just corrupt?? | |||
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"Lammy was late declaring income for two speeches, about £3k each. Hardly the worst thing an MP has ever done. " The severity of the issue is not important to Conservative voters. The only thing that matters to them is if the MP is a Tory or not. | |||
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"Lammy was late declaring income for two speeches, about £3k each. Hardly the worst thing an MP has ever done. The severity of the issue is not important to Conservative voters. The only thing that matters to them is if the MP is a Tory or not." But we have seen time and time again each side just jumps in in the most irrelevant little things. So an mp’s office was late putting in an invoice for earnings, happens all the time 
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"Lammy was late declaring income for two speeches, about £3k each. Hardly the worst thing an MP has ever done. The severity of the issue is not important to Conservative voters. The only thing that matters to them is if the MP is a Tory or not. But we have seen time and time again each side just jumps in in the most irrelevant little things. So an mp’s office was late putting in an invoice for earnings, happens all the time
On both sides "100% agree. The issues are that the sleaze from the Tories is much more severe and common place. Includes handing billions of tax payers money to their pals for PPE start up businesses. Etc etc. There is a false equivalence. People who vote Tory, appear to be completely blind to any wrongdoing from their party. | |||
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"Lammy was late declaring income for two speeches, about £3k each. Hardly the worst thing an MP has ever done. The severity of the issue is not important to Conservative voters. The only thing that matters to them is if the MP is a Tory or not. But we have seen time and time again each side just jumps in in the most irrelevant little things. So an mp’s office was late putting in an invoice for earnings, happens all the time
On both sides
100% agree.
The issues are that the sleaze from the Tories is much more severe and common place. Includes handing billions of tax payers money to their pals for PPE start up businesses. Etc etc.
There is a false equivalence. People who vote Tory, appear to be completely blind to any wrongdoing from their party.
"You keep on repeating this so please post the links to show £Billions was just handed over? I'd really like to read about this and of course if true I'd also like to read about the police investigation and possible prosecutions we will have. | |||
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"Lammy was late declaring income for two speeches, about £3k each. Hardly the worst thing an MP has ever done. The severity of the issue is not important to Conservative voters. The only thing that matters to them is if the MP is a Tory or not. But we have seen time and time again each side just jumps in in the most irrelevant little things. So an mp’s office was late putting in an invoice for earnings, happens all the time
On both sides
100% agree.
The issues are that the sleaze from the Tories is much more severe and common place. Includes handing billions of tax payers money to their pals for PPE start up businesses. Etc etc.
There is a false equivalence. People who vote Tory, appear to be completely blind to any wrongdoing from their party.
You keep on repeating this so please post the links to show £Billions was just handed over?
I'd really like to read about this and of course if true I'd also like to read about the police investigation and possible prosecutions we will have."Can't post links on here, I don't want a forum ban. It was widely reported on and discussed at length in numerous places. If you're unaware of this happening, then that's part of the problem. | |||
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"What a surprise! https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/david-lammy-faces-standards-inquiry-over-earnings-for-speeches-hg60q0tzd People who vote for the Conservatives provide the best comedy on here. Love it." m Haha totally agree . | |||
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"Lammy was late declaring income for two speeches, about £3k each. Hardly the worst thing an MP has ever done. The severity of the issue is not important to Conservative voters. The only thing that matters to them is if the MP is a Tory or not. But we have seen time and time again each side just jumps in in the most irrelevant little things. So an mp’s office was late putting in an invoice for earnings, happens all the time
On both sides
100% agree.
The issues are that the sleaze from the Tories is much more severe and common place. Includes handing billions of tax payers money to their pals for PPE start up businesses. Etc etc.
There is a false equivalence. People who vote Tory, appear to be completely blind to any wrongdoing from their party.
You keep on repeating this so please post the links to show £Billions was just handed over?
I'd really like to read about this and of course if true I'd also like to read about the police investigation and possible prosecutions we will have.
Can't post links on here, I don't want a forum ban. It was widely reported on and discussed at length in numerous places.
If you're unaware of this happening, then that's part of the problem."I sense a great deal of Tory supporter amnesia. Perhaps it’s long covid . Lol | |||
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"Lammy was late declaring income for two speeches, about £3k each. Hardly the worst thing an MP has ever done. The severity of the issue is not important to Conservative voters. The only thing that matters to them is if the MP is a Tory or not. But we have seen time and time again each side just jumps in in the most irrelevant little things. So an mp’s office was late putting in an invoice for earnings, happens all the time
On both sides
100% agree.
The issues are that the sleaze from the Tories is much more severe and common place. Includes handing billions of tax payers money to their pals for PPE start up businesses. Etc etc.
There is a false equivalence. People who vote Tory, appear to be completely blind to any wrongdoing from their party.
You keep on repeating this so please post the links to show £Billions was just handed over?
I'd really like to read about this and of course if true I'd also like to read about the police investigation and possible prosecutions we will have.
Can't post links on here, I don't want a forum ban. It was widely reported on and discussed at length in numerous places.
If you're unaware of this happening, then that's part of the problem."You can post links on here if they are from a reputable source. So post away and I'll have a read. | |||
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"Lammy was late declaring income for two speeches, about £3k each. Hardly the worst thing an MP has ever done. The severity of the issue is not important to Conservative voters. The only thing that matters to them is if the MP is a Tory or not. But we have seen time and time again each side just jumps in in the most irrelevant little things. So an mp’s office was late putting in an invoice for earnings, happens all the time
On both sides
100% agree.
The issues are that the sleaze from the Tories is much more severe and common place. Includes handing billions of tax payers money to their pals for PPE start up businesses. Etc etc.
There is a false equivalence. People who vote Tory, appear to be completely blind to any wrongdoing from their party.
You keep on repeating this so please post the links to show £Billions was just handed over?
I'd really like to read about this and of course if true I'd also like to read about the police investigation and possible prosecutions we will have.
Can't post links on here, I don't want a forum ban. It was widely reported on and discussed at length in numerous places.
If you're unaware of this happening, then that's part of the problem.
You can post links on here if they are from a reputable source.
So post away and I'll have a read."If you're someone who posts criticism of the government or brexit. People hound the shit out of you, reporting your posts, sending abusive messages. So no thanks I will not be goaded into a forum ban. Feel free to Google the government PPE contract scandal, the contracts for their friends and party donors. It's not a secret, was reported widely and is well documented. If you wish to pretend it's not real, a link on here wouldn't make a jot of difference to you anyway. | |||
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"Lammy was late declaring income for two speeches, about £3k each. Hardly the worst thing an MP has ever done. The severity of the issue is not important to Conservative voters. The only thing that matters to them is if the MP is a Tory or not. But we have seen time and time again each side just jumps in in the most irrelevant little things. So an mp’s office was late putting in an invoice for earnings, happens all the time
On both sides
100% agree.
The issues are that the sleaze from the Tories is much more severe and common place. Includes handing billions of tax payers money to their pals for PPE start up businesses. Etc etc.
There is a false equivalence. People who vote Tory, appear to be completely blind to any wrongdoing from their party.
You keep on repeating this so please post the links to show £Billions was just handed over?
I'd really like to read about this and of course if true I'd also like to read about the police investigation and possible prosecutions we will have.
Can't post links on here, I don't want a forum ban. It was widely reported on and discussed at length in numerous places.
If you're unaware of this happening, then that's part of the problem.
I sense a great deal of Tory supporter amnesia. Perhaps it’s long covid . Lol "It's often willful ignorance. | |||
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"Lammy was late declaring income for two speeches, about £3k each. Hardly the worst thing an MP has ever done. The severity of the issue is not important to Conservative voters. The only thing that matters to them is if the MP is a Tory or not. But we have seen time and time again each side just jumps in in the most irrelevant little things. So an mp’s office was late putting in an invoice for earnings, happens all the time
On both sides
100% agree.
The issues are that the sleaze from the Tories is much more severe and common place. Includes handing billions of tax payers money to their pals for PPE start up businesses. Etc etc.
There is a false equivalence. People who vote Tory, appear to be completely blind to any wrongdoing from their party.
You keep on repeating this so please post the links to show £Billions was just handed over?
I'd really like to read about this and of course if true I'd also like to read about the police investigation and possible prosecutions we will have.
Can't post links on here, I don't want a forum ban. It was widely reported on and discussed at length in numerous places.
If you're unaware of this happening, then that's part of the problem.
I sense a great deal of Tory supporter amnesia. Perhaps it’s long covid . Lol
It's often willful ignorance."And stupidity | |||
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"Can't post links on here, I don't want a forum ban." The forum rules explicitly state "You can link to: Any well recognised news site (bbc, times, telegraph, sun, notw, cnn and all the rest)". There's no risk of a forum ban if you post a story from a reputable news site. Of course, if your stories only come from disreputable sites, then you're better if not posting them. | |||
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"Can't post links on here, I don't want a forum ban. The forum rules explicitly state "You can link to: Any well recognised news site (bbc, times, telegraph, sun, notw, cnn and all the rest)". There's no risk of a forum ban if you post a story from a reputable news site. Of course, if your stories only come from disreputable sites, then you're better if not posting them." Have you tried Google | |||
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"Can't post links on here, I don't want a forum ban. The forum rules explicitly state "You can link to: Any well recognised news site (bbc, times, telegraph, sun, notw, cnn and all the rest)". There's no risk of a forum ban if you post a story from a reputable news site. Of course, if your stories only come from disreputable sites, then you're better if not posting them." Still not being goaded into a forum ban thanks. Tory nepotism on the PPE contracts is well documented. If you're interested, look it up. Any amount of links won't make a jot of difference to the die hard Conservative voters. They are too blind to accept any criticism of their infallible party. | |||
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"Johnson didn't declare his freebie holiday to Lord Goldsmiths luxury Marbella villa" Or the JCB private Jet laid on as required. But that was Tory business oh hang on no it wasn’t. | |||
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"Can't post links on here, I don't want a forum ban." "The forum rules explicitly state "You can link to: Any well recognised news site (bbc, times, telegraph, sun, notw, cnn and all the rest)". There's no risk of a forum ban if you post a story from a reputable news site. Of course, if your stories only come from disreputable sites, then you're better if not posting them." "Have you tried Google " I don't have a problem finding stories, I have a problem with people hiding behind a threat of a forum ban in order to avoid backing up their claims. I have tried google, and it's surprisingly hard to find a story specifically about "handing billions of tax payers money to their pals for PPE start up businesses", as was claimed above. Here's a link to start a discussion: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/06/tory-peer-michelle-mone-involved-ppe-medpro-government-contracts That story is about PPE Medpro, a company "linked" to Michelle Mone, who is currently under criminal investigation. It doesn't support the idea that 'billions' were 'handed to pals'. | |||
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"Lammy was late declaring income for two speeches, about £3k each. Hardly the worst thing an MP has ever done. The severity of the issue is not important to Conservative voters. The only thing that matters to them is if the MP is a Tory or not. But we have seen time and time again each side just jumps in in the most irrelevant little things. So an mp’s office was late putting in an invoice for earnings, happens all the time
On both sides
100% agree.
The issues are that the sleaze from the Tories is much more severe and common place. Includes handing billions of tax payers money to their pals for PPE start up businesses. Etc etc.
There is a false equivalence. People who vote Tory, appear to be completely blind to any wrongdoing from their party.
You keep on repeating this so please post the links to show £Billions was just handed over?
I'd really like to read about this and of course if true I'd also like to read about the police investigation and possible prosecutions we will have.
Can't post links on here, I don't want a forum ban. It was widely reported on and discussed at length in numerous places.
If you're unaware of this happening, then that's part of the problem.
You can post links on here if they are from a reputable source.
So post away and I'll have a read.
If you're someone who posts criticism of the government or brexit. People hound the shit out of you, reporting your posts, sending abusive messages. So no thanks I will not be goaded into a forum ban.
Feel free to Google the government PPE contract scandal, the contracts for their friends and party donors. It's not a secret, was reported widely and is well documented. If you wish to pretend it's not real, a link on here wouldn't make a jot of difference to you anyway."Was asking for a link which has clearly been explained is OK if from a reputable site. That's not goading. If you choose not to back up your claims that's up to you. | |||
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"Lammy was late declaring income for two speeches, about £3k each. Hardly the worst thing an MP has ever done. The severity of the issue is not important to Conservative voters. The only thing that matters to them is if the MP is a Tory or not. But we have seen time and time again each side just jumps in in the most irrelevant little things. So an mp’s office was late putting in an invoice for earnings, happens all the time
On both sides
100% agree.
The issues are that the sleaze from the Tories is much more severe and common place. Includes handing billions of tax payers money to their pals for PPE start up businesses. Etc etc.
There is a false equivalence. People who vote Tory, appear to be completely blind to any wrongdoing from their party.
You keep on repeating this so please post the links to show £Billions was just handed over?
I'd really like to read about this and of course if true I'd also like to read about the police investigation and possible prosecutions we will have.
Can't post links on here, I don't want a forum ban. It was widely reported on and discussed at length in numerous places.
If you're unaware of this happening, then that's part of the problem.
You can post links on here if they are from a reputable source.
So post away and I'll have a read.
If you're someone who posts criticism of the government or brexit. People hound the shit out of you, reporting your posts, sending abusive messages. So no thanks I will not be goaded into a forum ban.
Feel free to Google the government PPE contract scandal, the contracts for their friends and party donors. It's not a secret, was reported widely and is well documented. If you wish to pretend it's not real, a link on here wouldn't make a jot of difference to you anyway.
Was asking for a link which has clearly been explained is OK if from a reputable site.
That's not goading.
If you choose not to back up your claims that's up to you."I’ve been through this very debate with the same person reputable sources are allowed. | |||
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"Lammy was late declaring income for two speeches, about £3k each. Hardly the worst thing an MP has ever done. The severity of the issue is not important to Conservative voters. The only thing that matters to them is if the MP is a Tory or not. But we have seen time and time again each side just jumps in in the most irrelevant little things. So an mp’s office was late putting in an invoice for earnings, happens all the time
On both sides
100% agree.
The issues are that the sleaze from the Tories is much more severe and common place. Includes handing billions of tax payers money to their pals for PPE start up businesses. Etc etc.
There is a false equivalence. People who vote Tory, appear to be completely blind to any wrongdoing from their party.
You keep on repeating this so please post the links to show £Billions was just handed over?
I'd really like to read about this and of course if true I'd also like to read about the police investigation and possible prosecutions we will have.
Can't post links on here, I don't want a forum ban. It was widely reported on and discussed at length in numerous places.
If you're unaware of this happening, then that's part of the problem.
You can post links on here if they are from a reputable source.
So post away and I'll have a read.
If you're someone who posts criticism of the government or brexit. People hound the shit out of you, reporting your posts, sending abusive messages. So no thanks I will not be goaded into a forum ban.
Feel free to Google the government PPE contract scandal, the contracts for their friends and party donors. It's not a secret, was reported widely and is well documented. If you wish to pretend it's not real, a link on here wouldn't make a jot of difference to you anyway.
Was asking for a link which has clearly been explained is OK if from a reputable site.
That's not goading.
If you choose not to back up your claims that's up to you."To be clear. It's not my "claims", it's real life, things that actually happened. And this is really highlights the futility of politics in this country. People who vote Tory are utterly blind to how the government behaves. | |||
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"Lammy was late declaring income for two speeches, about £3k each. Hardly the worst thing an MP has ever done. The severity of the issue is not important to Conservative voters. The only thing that matters to them is if the MP is a Tory or not. But we have seen time and time again each side just jumps in in the most irrelevant little things. So an mp’s office was late putting in an invoice for earnings, happens all the time
On both sides
100% agree.
The issues are that the sleaze from the Tories is much more severe and common place. Includes handing billions of tax payers money to their pals for PPE start up businesses. Etc etc.
There is a false equivalence. People who vote Tory, appear to be completely blind to any wrongdoing from their party.
You keep on repeating this so please post the links to show £Billions was just handed over?
I'd really like to read about this and of course if true I'd also like to read about the police investigation and possible prosecutions we will have.
Can't post links on here, I don't want a forum ban. It was widely reported on and discussed at length in numerous places.
If you're unaware of this happening, then that's part of the problem.
You can post links on here if they are from a reputable source.
So post away and I'll have a read.
If you're someone who posts criticism of the government or brexit. People hound the shit out of you, reporting your posts, sending abusive messages. So no thanks I will not be goaded into a forum ban.
Feel free to Google the government PPE contract scandal, the contracts for their friends and party donors. It's not a secret, was reported widely and is well documented. If you wish to pretend it's not real, a link on here wouldn't make a jot of difference to you anyway.
Was asking for a link which has clearly been explained is OK if from a reputable site.
That's not goading.
If you choose not to back up your claims that's up to you.I’ve been through this very debate with the same person reputable sources are allowed."This forum and this site does not work the same way for people who have higher aspirations for British people. Anyway, you nice people can continue to believe anything you like. If you don't believe what's actually happening in real life and would rather just argue about sharing links then crack on. | |||
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"If you choose not to back up your claims that's up to you." "To be clear. It's not my "claims", it's real life, things that actually happened." There's nothing preventing you from posting the name of a news site, and the headline of an article, so that we can all go and read it ourselves. If you want us to believe you, help us to find the evidence. | |||
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"If you choose not to back up your claims that's up to you. To be clear. It's not my "claims", it's real life, things that actually happened. There's nothing preventing you from posting the name of a news site, and the headline of an article, so that we can all go and read it ourselves. If you want us to believe you, help us to find the evidence." I have no interest in anyone believing me. I'm interested in people believing what's actually happening in the world around us. You could find this in one minute if you wished to. | |||
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"If you choose not to back up your claims that's up to you. To be clear. It's not my "claims", it's real life, things that actually happened. There's nothing preventing you from posting the name of a news site, and the headline of an article, so that we can all go and read it ourselves. If you want us to believe you, help us to find the evidence." Are you seriously trying to suggest that the £ billions spunked on the PPE fast lane system as well as the not fit for purpose test and trace operation - didn’t actually happen. The problem with finding links for each one of these fuck ups is that there were so many of them - it’s hard to remember which were worst. Off the top of my head I remember Hancock’s Publican mate, there was another linked to Zahawi, and Byline Times did an expose about the number of startups that were linked to Tory Donors that somehow miraculously appeared in the Fast track system. | |||
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"Are you seriously trying to suggest that the £ billions spunked on the PPE fast lane system as well as the not fit for purpose test and trace operation - didn’t actually happen." No. It's clear that lots of money was wasted, and lots of mistakes were made. Here's another link to a story about it: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/covid-ppe-court-vip-suppliers-b1991440.html That article is about a judge ruling that the "VIP fast lane" for PPE suppliers with connections to politicians was illegal. It also states that the judge ruled that the contracts deserved priority treatment, and that they would have been awarded the contracts if the VIP system were not in place. So, no, I'm not arguing that these things didn't happen. I'm just arguing that it doesn't amount to the Tories handing billions to their mates for no return. But more importantly than that, I'm arguing that people that refuse to post their sources, and pretend that they're not allowed to, are not telling the truth and should be treated with suspicion. | |||
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"Are you seriously trying to suggest that the £ billions spunked on the PPE fast lane system as well as the not fit for purpose test and trace operation - didn’t actually happen. No. It's clear that lots of money was wasted, and lots of mistakes were made. Here's another link to a story about it: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/covid-ppe-court-vip-suppliers-b1991440.html That article is about a judge ruling that the "VIP fast lane" for PPE suppliers with connections to politicians was illegal. It also states that the judge ruled that the contracts deserved priority treatment, and that they would have been awarded the contracts if the VIP system were not in place. So, no, I'm not arguing that these things didn't happen. I'm just arguing that it doesn't amount to the Tories handing billions to their mates for no return. But more importantly than that, I'm arguing that people that refuse to post their sources, and pretend that they're not allowed to, are not telling the truth and should be treated with suspicion." Ridiculous comment. They're not "my sources". The moment I, or anyone who questions the government, posts a link we get reported and often blocked. Also, no one said there was "no return". Can we get back to the main point the OP? Conservative voters are outraged by minor accusations against Labour MPs, while not only ignoring much worse in the party they vote for, but hound anyone who thinks British people deserve better. | |||
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"Are you seriously trying to suggest that the £ billions spunked on the PPE fast lane system as well as the not fit for purpose test and trace operation - didn’t actually happen. No. It's clear that lots of money was wasted, and lots of mistakes were made. Here's another link to a story about it: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/covid-ppe-court-vip-suppliers-b1991440.html That article is about a judge ruling that the "VIP fast lane" for PPE suppliers with connections to politicians was illegal. It also states that the judge ruled that the contracts deserved priority treatment, and that they would have been awarded the contracts if the VIP system were not in place. So, no, I'm not arguing that these things didn't happen. I'm just arguing that it doesn't amount to the Tories handing billions to their mates for no return. But more importantly than that, I'm arguing that people that refuse to post their sources, and pretend that they're not allowed to, are not telling the truth and should be treated with suspicion. Ridiculous comment. They're not "my sources". The moment I, or anyone who questions the government, posts a link we get reported and often blocked. Also, no one said there was "no return". Can we get back to the main point the OP? Conservative voters are outraged by minor accusations against Labour MPs, while not only ignoring much worse in the party they vote for, but hound anyone who thinks British people deserve better. " It's plainly clear that when a Labour MP is found out of wrong doing certain posters like it. | |||
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"Are you seriously trying to suggest that the £ billions spunked on the PPE fast lane system as well as the not fit for purpose test and trace operation - didn’t actually happen. No. It's clear that lots of money was wasted, and lots of mistakes were made. Here's another link to a story about it: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/covid-ppe-court-vip-suppliers-b1991440.html That article is about a judge ruling that the "VIP fast lane" for PPE suppliers with connections to politicians was illegal. It also states that the judge ruled that the contracts deserved priority treatment, and that they would have been awarded the contracts if the VIP system were not in place. So, no, I'm not arguing that these things didn't happen. I'm just arguing that it doesn't amount to the Tories handing billions to their mates for no return. But more importantly than that, I'm arguing that people that refuse to post their sources, and pretend that they're not allowed to, are not telling the truth and should be treated with suspicion. Ridiculous comment. They're not "my sources". The moment I, or anyone who questions the government, posts a link we get reported and often blocked. Also, no one said there was "no return". Can we get back to the main point the OP? Conservative voters are outraged by minor accusations against Labour MPs, while not only ignoring much worse in the party they vote for, but hound anyone who thinks British people deserve better. It's plainly clear that when a Labour MP is found out of wrong doing certain posters like it." Who likes it? | |||
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"What a surprise! https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/david-lammy-faces-standards-inquiry-over-earnings-for-speeches-hg60q0tzd " "Sleaze"? Late declaring some income that was earned overtly from reputable sources? That is quite a "gotcha". | |||
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