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By *mateur100 OP Man
over a year ago

nr faversham

Possibly not suited to this forum but can anyone explain to me why smoking is linked to poverty and deprived areas? At around a tenner a pack I would've thought it was a middle or upper class thing these days?

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

Couldnt tell ya, all i know is i started at 14 and have smoked right up until april this year, spent a month in hospital without smoking so have carried on not smoking ciggies since i got out.

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

Just to add i saving myself about 300 quid a month

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They are €15 a pack here

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By *mateur100 OP Man
over a year ago

nr faversham

That's my point...how can the impoverished afford them???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"That's my point...how can the impoverished afford them???"

The Black market

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By *mateur100 OP Man
over a year ago

nr faversham

"That's my point...how can the impoverished afford them???

The Black market "

???

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By *aliceWoman
over a year ago

Birmingham

Cigarettes and alcohol have historically been stress relief outlets that disadvantaged people with limited availability to leisure, holiday and other recreational breaks have turned to.

The poorer people are, the more likely they are to smoke. People in multiple disadvantaged groups are more likely to smoke. Children with parents who smoke and who are in family structures with low social mobility are more likely to start smoking.

And obviously it's a vicious circle as the more expensive cigarettes get, the more these groups suffer financial pressure and depend on cigarettes for the perceived stress relief.

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

"Cigarettes and alcohol have historically been stress relief outlets that disadvantaged people with limited availability to leisure, holiday and other recreational breaks have turned to.

And obviously it's a vicious circle as the more expensive cigarettes get, the more these groups suffer financial pressure and depend on cigarettes for the perceived stress relief.

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black market loose leaf tobbaco appears the prefered option localy freely available very cheap + can mix in a bit of for extra stress release .could obtain both very easily and cheaply within 5 mins and we partake in niether .as our local shopkeeper bemoans on a regular basis tobbaco sales are massivley down but sales of paraphenalia skins lighters matches etc is up and increasing .

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

In Britain you have the problem of there only being one rate of excise duty that covers all tobacco products. So cigarettes and loose tobacco are taxed at the same rate.

Many European countries have different rates for different products.

In Germany for example there are three plus a loophole. There is one rate for cigarettes, another for cigars (including brown paper cigarettes) and another for loose tobacco.

The loophole is quite quirky but very handy.

Tobacco leaves (whole leaves not shredded) attract no excise duty at all and can be bought for as little as 15€ a kilo. Not black market but fully legal although it is supposed to be "for decoration purposes"

With a bit of kit (we use a pasta maker with the spaghetti cutter) and a bit of trial and error (we now blend 50% yellow virginia and 50% burley) we are now able to make cigarettes that are very close to shop bought.

The actual cigarette machines are widely available on line (around 40€) and tubes are for pennies.

I suppose one day they will close it but for now HAPPY DAYS!

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By *ools and the brainCouple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

You must really like smoking to go to "that"much effort?

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

"You must really like smoking to go to "that"much effort?"

It's actually not much effort at all.

One mornings work lasts two of us a month.

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By *ornucopiaMan
over a year ago

Bexley

"They are €15 a pack here"

What's that in real money as opposed to the 'Piss Pound'?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"That's my point...how can the impoverished afford them???

The Black market

???"

I quit (again) around a year ago.. But yep there's always the 'baccy house', last time I bought a pack it was around £5.50 vs full price... Of course the snides are absolutely shocking for your lungs. Probs way worse than the 'authentic cigs'... Go figure

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You must really like smoking to go to "that"much effort?

It's actually not much effort at all.

One mornings work lasts two of us a month."
how much do you save?

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

"You must really like smoking to go to "that"much effort?

It's actually not much effort at all.

One mornings work lasts two of us a month. how much do you save?"

Based on one pack each per day I would guess around 300-350€ per month.

That is based on German prices (around 6€ a pack) so in other countries the saving could be much more.

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