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"Source? " some details here https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/jan/13/chinese-national-trying-to-improperly-influence-politicians-says-mi5 | |||
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"Source? Boris in the house of commons. " Must be a true story then  ..It’s not like Boris is a lying twat that likes to deflect any problems on his own front door is it . | |||
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"Source? Boris in the house of commons. Must be a true story then ..It’s not like Boris is a lying twat that likes to deflect any problems on his own front door is it ."Watch the footage, it proper knocked the opposition back. | |||
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"Source? Boris in the house of commons. Must be a true story then ..It’s not like Boris is a lying twat that likes to deflect any problems on his own front door is it .
Watch the footage, it proper knocked the opposition back. "is there new footage ... Or are you talking about the Feb footage ...? Christine Lee also attended Tory fundraising events. Labour are more on the hook given the sums involved ... But looks like her net was being cast across parties ... | |||
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"In the 2019 election, Conservatives received £13,000,000 in donations from individuals, and £19,400,000 in total. By comparison, Labour recieved £159,000 from individuals and £5,400,000 in total. It's pretty clear who's being influenced by donations here." Mad Nads admitted this recently , stating that rebel MPs should support Boris because if they don’t they will lose funding by their donors | |||
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"In the 2019 election, Conservatives received £13,000,000 in donations from individuals, and £19,400,000 in total. By comparison, Labour recieved £159,000 from individuals and £5,400,000 in total. It's pretty clear who's being influenced by donations here." 
Ps. Don't mention the Russian donor's or the report into them and their influence on the government.. | |||
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"In the 2019 election, Conservatives received £13,000,000 in donations from individuals, and £19,400,000 in total. By comparison, Labour recieved £159,000 from individuals and £5,400,000 in total. It's pretty clear who's being influenced by donations here.
Ps. Don't mention the Russian donor's or the report into them and their influence on the government.."Yeah they seem to have plenty of influence at the moment. What with Britain leading the way in support of the Ukraine against putin. | |||
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"In the 2019 election, Conservatives received £13,000,000 in donations from individuals, and £19,400,000 in total. By comparison, Labour recieved £159,000 from individuals and £5,400,000 in total. It's pretty clear who's being influenced by donations here.
Ps. Don't mention the Russian donor's or the report into them and their influence on the government..Yeah they seem to have plenty of influence at the moment. What with Britain leading the way in support of the Ukraine against putin."Leading the way? | |||
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"Source? Boris in the house of commons. Must be a true story then ..It’s not like Boris is a lying twat that likes to deflect any problems on his own front door is it ."Phew That makes it all OK then. | |||
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"In the 2019 election, Conservatives received £13,000,000 in donations from individuals, and £19,400,000 in total. By comparison, Labour recieved £159,000 from individuals and £5,400,000 in total. It's pretty clear who's being influenced by donations here.
Ps. Don't mention the Russian donor's or the report into them and their influence on the government..Yeah they seem to have plenty of influence at the moment. What with Britain leading the way in support of the Ukraine against putin.
Leading the way? "yup | |||
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"In the 2019 election, Conservatives received £13,000,000 in donations from individuals, and £19,400,000 in total. By comparison, Labour recieved £159,000 from individuals and £5,400,000 in total. It's pretty clear who's being influenced by donations here.
Ps. Don't mention the Russian donor's or the report into them and their influence on the government..Yeah they seem to have plenty of influence at the moment. What with Britain leading the way in support of the Ukraine against putin."Nothing says leading the way like delaying sanctions on Russian oligarchs so they can quickly move their funds elsewhere. Nothing says leading the way like the report saying "there is substantial evidence that Russian interference in British politics is commonplace". The report was censored. Nothing says leading the way like offering a peerage to the son of a Russian oligarch despite being warned of the security risk. The security advice to BoJo was supposed to be released, but so far it hasn't. BoJo is only supporting Ukraine because it benefits him. He sees himself as a Churchill type character when infact he's nothing more than character from a Dr Seuss book. He's already using the Russian invasion of Ukraine as an excuse not to be outed. | |||
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"Does accepting donations make you liable to be swayed? That feels like the underlying crux here. " Or does not having any donations make you skint and liable to be swayed? I imagine personal favours before, during and after office are more likely to lead to swaying politicians "values" than those going to central coffers. | |||
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"... labour's biggest cash donor is apparently a corporation run by a member of the Chinese comunist party................... "Why am I not surprised???  | |||
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"probably in chinese meals for beergate night. " | |||
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"This is what happens when we have politicians for sale. Russian millions for the tories Chinese for Labour It should all be banned and no donations at all. You’re funded by the state based on number of members. The last thing we need is to follow the American way of politicians being in the control of people like the NRA . Greed makes people’s morals very weak The USA parties spend Billions on running for office over two years . Why do their backers spend so much if it’s not for influence. " of course it’s for influence no point other wise like jackal says should all be banned and play on a level playing field it was same with brexit remain had nearl double what leave had lol | |||
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"... labour's biggest cash donor is apparently a corporation run by a member of the Chinese comunist party...................
Why am I not surprised??? "I wonder if a go fund me "money talks" would be appropriate for the sole purpose of influencing political parties and mp's.  | |||
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"Personally I think there should be no corporate sponsorship of politics, including billionaire media barons, by any political party. It breeds corruption on every level "Are you suggesting that the government should represent the interests of the people, instead of the corporate sponsors? Ridiculous! | |||
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"Personally I think there should be no corporate sponsorship of politics, including billionaire media barons, by any political party. It breeds corruption on every level
Are you suggesting that the government should represent the interests of the people, instead of the corporate sponsors?
Ridiculous! "all party’s should | |||
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"Personally I think there should be no corporate sponsorship of politics, including billionaire media barons, by any political party. It breeds corruption on every level
Are you suggesting that the government should represent the interests of the people, instead of the corporate sponsors?
Ridiculous! all party’s should "Well of course. But the whole system is set up to serve corporations and billionaires. And we're going further that way. | |||
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"Personally I think there should be no corporate sponsorship of politics, including billionaire media barons, by any political party. It breeds corruption on every level
Are you suggesting that the government should represent the interests of the people, instead of the corporate sponsors?
Ridiculous! all party’s should
Well of course. But the whole system is set up to serve corporations and billionaires. And we're going further that way."exactly I agree with you that’s why I agreed with jackal about donations being banned for all party’s | |||
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"Personally I think there should be no corporate sponsorship of politics, including billionaire media barons, by any political party. It breeds corruption on every level
Are you suggesting that the government should represent the interests of the people, instead of the corporate sponsors?
Ridiculous! all party’s should
Well of course. But the whole system is set up to serve corporations and billionaires. And we're going further that way. exactly I agree with you that’s why I agreed with jackal about donations being banned for all party’s "It should be. Never going to happen though. | |||
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"Personally I think there should be no corporate sponsorship of politics, including billionaire media barons, by any political party. It breeds corruption on every level
Are you suggesting that the government should represent the interests of the people, instead of the corporate sponsors?
Ridiculous! all party’s should
Well of course. But the whole system is set up to serve corporations and billionaires. And we're going further that way. exactly I agree with you that’s why I agreed with jackal about donations being banned for all party’s
It should be.
Never going to happen though."probably right there | |||
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"This is what happens when we have politicians for sale. Russian millions for the tories Chinese for Labour It should all be banned and no donations at all. You’re funded by the state based on number of members. The last thing we need is to follow the American way of politicians being in the control of people like the NRA . Greed makes people’s morals very weak The USA parties spend Billions on running for office over two years . Why do their backers spend so much if it’s not for influence. " For a change, I am agreeing with you on this | |||
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"This is what happens when we have politicians for sale. Russian millions for the tories Chinese for Labour It should all be banned and no donations at all. You’re funded by the state based on number of members. The last thing we need is to follow the American way of politicians being in the control of people like the NRA . Greed makes people’s morals very weak The USA parties spend Billions on running for office over two years . Why do their backers spend so much if it’s not for influence. For a change, I am agreeing with you on this "I think most reasonable people agree. I just think our “professional “ politicians are focusing on themselves too much. Trip to the Maldives for fact finding trip sir? Oh of course but I must remember to declare it as that makes everything ok. I can’t remember the details but I seem to remember 85% of MPs foreign trips are to holiday related destinations rather than industrial or cold regions. Good job they have employed their wives as assistants to share the burden on the trip. MPs trips are regularly funded by government if they are on a committee related to the trip but look at this link to see how many are also given free trips by foreign governments which they take with family. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45883411 I can understand civil servants going ( for fact finding research) but why do MPs go when their tenure in a department is usually so short. Jolly anyone? It’s ok I’ll declare it. | |||
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"This is what happens when we have politicians for sale. Russian millions for the tories Chinese for Labour It should all be banned and no donations at all. You’re funded by the state based on number of members. The last thing we need is to follow the American way of politicians being in the control of people like the NRA . Greed makes people’s morals very weak The USA parties spend Billions on running for office over two years . Why do their backers spend so much if it’s not for influence. For a change, I am agreeing with you on this
I think most reasonable people agree. I just think our “professional “ politicians are focusing on themselves too much. Trip to the Maldives for fact finding trip sir? Oh of course but I must remember to declare it as that makes everything ok.
I can’t remember the details but I seem to remember 85% of MPs foreign trips are to holiday related destinations rather than industrial or cold regions. Good job they have employed their wives as assistants to share the burden on the trip.
MPs trips are regularly funded by government if they are on a committee related to the trip but look at this link to see how many are also given free trips by foreign governments which they take with family.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45883411
I can understand civil servants going ( for fact finding research) but why do MPs go when their tenure in a department is usually so short. Jolly anyone? It’s ok I’ll declare it. "You’re right, just declaring doesn’t mean it’s moral, it like a get out of jail free card, e.g. I’ve been given some money from a Russian oligarch, but don’t worry I declared it, so it’s ok. Its so matter of fact these days, there is no real consequence to their action, they’ve probably spent it already. What is it they say? Sin now, as it’s easier to get forgiveness later. A certain slob lives by that code. All MP’s must sign a contract of employment when they enter parliament, no oaths, an actual contract clearly marking their obligations and the penalties for their actions. For too long have they escaped or bypassed employment law. Being an MP is a job and it should be treated as such. The real Blockbuster is parliament, we need to netflix parliament now. | |||
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"Not surprising, it certainly explains the hard left slant they started taking after Brown left." Labour polices are centre or centre/right. | |||
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"Not surprising, it certainly explains the hard left slant they started taking after Brown left. Labour polices are centre or centre/right." Anything left of the far right is far left according to tories | |||
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"Labour polices are centre or centre/right." They used to be under Blair, not anymore though. | |||
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