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As for Germany they have a lot more Russian gas than Poland, but will have to wait and see | |||
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"Good job they got plenty of options coming online https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-61237519 My guess is Germany may be next now they are sending some well publicised weapons system" Then pressure will be on LNG, more price hikes to highest bidder. | |||
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"Russia will stop sending gas to Poland from Wednesday, the Polish state gas company PGNiG has said. Who is next? " Bulgaria is also on the naughty list!! Remember they already threatened Germany and France by saying they wanted those payments in roubles … and when they said no, they blinked They won’t cut of them because they then lose any leverage they have left | |||
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"Russia will stop sending gas to Poland from Wednesday, the Polish state gas company PGNiG has said. Who is next? Bulgaria is also on the naughty list!! Remember they already threatened Germany and France by saying they wanted those payments in roubles … and when they said no, they blinked They won’t cut of them because they then lose any leverage they have left " Putin said all unfriendly countries had to pay in Roubles or not have the gas. The UK is in his eyes the most unfriendly coutry so why he has not cut off gas already is beyond me?. Unless the uk has allready cut back on the little we were importing. | |||
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"Russia will stop sending gas to Poland from Wednesday, the Polish state gas company PGNiG has said. Who is next? Bulgaria is also on the naughty list!! Remember they already threatened Germany and France by saying they wanted those payments in roubles … and when they said no, they blinked They won’t cut of them because they then lose any leverage they have left Putin said all unfriendly countries had to pay in Roubles or not have the gas. The UK is in his eyes the most unfriendly coutry so why he has not cut off gas already is beyond me?. Unless the uk has allready cut back on the little we were importing. " Because Russian oil and gas only accounts for about 7% of that used in the UK energy industry ( funny enough mainly used in diesel production) and it basically not be using any from the end of the year Poland were on the way to becoming energy independent of Russia anyway, hoping to be there by next year… the Baltic states had the foresight to see this coming so they are already energy independent just in case Russia ever thought about playing that card. The ones to really look out for are France, Germany and Italy … | |||
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"Didn’t see this and just started another thread but will repeat here... So it is getting increasingly likely that the EU/EEA will invoke the emergency energy protocol in order to stop dependence on Russian Gas. Norway will be obliged to prioritise gas supplies to EU countries as a condition of their EEA membership. That means as a third country the UK will need to source gas to replace Norwegian gas. Likely causing further increases in prices. Brexit, the gift that keeps on giving." Winning  | |||
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"Russia will stop sending gas to Poland from Wednesday, the Polish state gas company PGNiG has said. Who is next? Bulgaria is also on the naughty list!! Remember they already threatened Germany and France by saying they wanted those payments in roubles … and when they said no, they blinked They won’t cut of them because they then lose any leverage they have left " BBC are saying that Poland and Bulgaria tried paying direct in euro's as their contract states but other European nations have been paying into a Russian bank that converts it into troubles for them. It was a work around to save face to both sides | |||
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"Russia will stop sending gas to Poland from Wednesday, the Polish state gas company PGNiG has said. Who is next? Bulgaria is also on the naughty list!! Remember they already threatened Germany and France by saying they wanted those payments in roubles … and when they said no, they blinked They won’t cut of them because they then lose any leverage they have left BBC are saying that Poland and Bulgaria tried paying direct in euro's as their contract states but other European nations have been paying into a Russian bank that converts it into troubles for them. It was a work around to save face to both sides" The European nations that are doing this are apparently Austria and Hungary…. Austria are Further to the right than most and Orban is trying to stay on the right side Putin I don’t think other countries will do it… | |||
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"Russia will stop sending gas to Poland from Wednesday, the Polish state gas company PGNiG has said. Who is next? Bulgaria is also on the naughty list!! Remember they already threatened Germany and France by saying they wanted those payments in roubles … and when they said no, they blinked They won’t cut of them because they then lose any leverage they have left BBC are saying that Poland and Bulgaria tried paying direct in euro's as their contract states but other European nations have been paying into a Russian bank that converts it into troubles for them. It was a work around to save face to both sides The European nations that are doing this are apparently Austria and Hungary…. Austria are Further to the right than most and Orban is trying to stay on the right side Putin I don’t think other countries will do it… " I guess then we will find out soon who is and is not going down this route as those that are not paying in roubles will also very soon have gas bans. Bloomberg claim 10 European energy companies are preparing to pay Gazprom in troubles and 4 already have. Not sure how they know this though | |||
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"Russia will stop sending gas to Poland from Wednesday, the Polish state gas company PGNiG has said. Who is next? Bulgaria is also on the naughty list!! Remember they already threatened Germany and France by saying they wanted those payments in roubles … and when they said no, they blinked They won’t cut of them because they then lose any leverage they have left Putin said all unfriendly countries had to pay in Roubles or not have the gas. The UK is in his eyes the most unfriendly coutry so why he has not cut off gas already is beyond me?. Unless the uk has allready cut back on the little we were importing. Because Russian oil and gas only accounts for about 7% of that used in the UK energy industry ( funny enough mainly used in diesel production) and it basically not be using any from the end of the year Poland were on the way to becoming energy independent of Russia anyway, hoping to be there by next year… the Baltic states had the foresight to see this coming so they are already energy independent just in case Russia ever thought about playing that card. The ones to really look out for are France, Germany and Italy … " Indeed - and the notion that any of those countries are going to crash their economies just because the UK government is all upset about them partly funding Putin's war against Ukraine, is utterly ridiculous. Their governments are going to act in the best interests of their people; as we expect ours to do. Although, as we well know, that often leads to disappointment. | |||
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"Russia will stop sending gas to Poland from Wednesday, the Polish state gas company PGNiG has said. Who is next? Bulgaria is also on the naughty list!! Remember they already threatened Germany and France by saying they wanted those payments in roubles … and when they said no, they blinked They won’t cut of them because they then lose any leverage they have left BBC are saying that Poland and Bulgaria tried paying direct in euro's as their contract states but other European nations have been paying into a Russian bank that converts it into troubles for them. It was a work around to save face to both sides The European nations that are doing this are apparently Austria and Hungary…. Austria are Further to the right than most and Orban is trying to stay on the right side Putin I don’t think other countries will do it… " Oh dear, looks like several countries are doing exactly the same. Are they further to the right or trying to stay on the right side of Putin too | |||
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"Russia will stop sending gas to Poland from Wednesday, the Polish state gas company PGNiG has said. Who is next? Bulgaria is also on the naughty list!! Remember they already threatened Germany and France by saying they wanted those payments in roubles … and when they said no, they blinked They won’t cut of them because they then lose any leverage they have left BBC are saying that Poland and Bulgaria tried paying direct in euro's as their contract states but other European nations have been paying into a Russian bank that converts it into troubles for them. It was a work around to save face to both sides The European nations that are doing this are apparently Austria and Hungary…. Austria are Further to the right than most and Orban is trying to stay on the right side Putin I don’t think other countries will do it… Oh dear, looks like several countries are doing exactly the same. Are they further to the right or trying to stay on the right side of Putin too" Energy companies have had a warning shot fired across their bows by the EU commission by stating that if they set up another account in roubles for the purpose of paying gazprom which was specifically stated in contracts they pay in euros, it will be seen as circumvention and an act of breaking EU sanctions | |||
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"Russia will stop sending gas to Poland from Wednesday, the Polish state gas company PGNiG has said. Who is next? Bulgaria is also on the naughty list!! Remember they already threatened Germany and France by saying they wanted those payments in roubles … and when they said no, they blinked They won’t cut of them because they then lose any leverage they have left BBC are saying that Poland and Bulgaria tried paying direct in euro's as their contract states but other European nations have been paying into a Russian bank that converts it into troubles for them. It was a work around to save face to both sides The European nations that are doing this are apparently Austria and Hungary…. Austria are Further to the right than most and Orban is trying to stay on the right side Putin I don’t think other countries will do it… Oh dear, looks like several countries are doing exactly the same. Are they further to the right or trying to stay on the right side of Putin too Energy companies have had a warning shot fired across their bows by the EU commission by stating that if they set up another account in roubles for the purpose of paying gazprom which was specifically stated in contracts they pay in euros, it will be seen as circumvention and an act of breaking EU sanctions " And what exactly is going to be the punishment??? | |||
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"Russia will stop sending gas to Poland from Wednesday, the Polish state gas company PGNiG has said. Who is next? Bulgaria is also on the naughty list!! Remember they already threatened Germany and France by saying they wanted those payments in roubles … and when they said no, they blinked They won’t cut of them because they then lose any leverage they have left BBC are saying that Poland and Bulgaria tried paying direct in euro's as their contract states but other European nations have been paying into a Russian bank that converts it into troubles for them. It was a work around to save face to both sides The European nations that are doing this are apparently Austria and Hungary…. Austria are Further to the right than most and Orban is trying to stay on the right side Putin I don’t think other countries will do it… Oh dear, looks like several countries are doing exactly the same. Are they further to the right or trying to stay on the right side of Putin too Energy companies have had a warning shot fired across their bows by the EU commission by stating that if they set up another account in roubles for the purpose of paying gazprom which was specifically stated in contracts they pay in euros, it will be seen as circumvention and an act of breaking EU sanctions " It doesn't seem to be stopping them going ahead. Seems to be some confusion as to if it breaks the sanctions given how the transaction is being done. Either way these companies who buy gas for their respective countries seem to agree to pay up. I guess it's that or gas shortage | |||
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"Russia will stop sending gas to Poland from Wednesday, the Polish state gas company PGNiG has said. Who is next? Bulgaria is also on the naughty list!! Remember they already threatened Germany and France by saying they wanted those payments in roubles … and when they said no, they blinked They won’t cut of them because they then lose any leverage they have left BBC are saying that Poland and Bulgaria tried paying direct in euro's as their contract states but other European nations have been paying into a Russian bank that converts it into troubles for them. It was a work around to save face to both sides The European nations that are doing this are apparently Austria and Hungary…. Austria are Further to the right than most and Orban is trying to stay on the right side Putin I don’t think other countries will do it… Oh dear, looks like several countries are doing exactly the same. Are they further to the right or trying to stay on the right side of Putin too Energy companies have had a warning shot fired across their bows by the EU commission by stating that if they set up another account in roubles for the purpose of paying gazprom which was specifically stated in contracts they pay in euros, it will be seen as circumvention and an act of breaking EU sanctions And what exactly is going to be the punishment???" The EU will commit to turning the entire supply off from Russia to keep solidarity in the union. | |||
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"Russia will stop sending gas to Poland from Wednesday, the Polish state gas company PGNiG has said. Who is next? Bulgaria is also on the naughty list!! Remember they already threatened Germany and France by saying they wanted those payments in roubles … and when they said no, they blinked They won’t cut of them because they then lose any leverage they have left BBC are saying that Poland and Bulgaria tried paying direct in euro's as their contract states but other European nations have been paying into a Russian bank that converts it into troubles for them. It was a work around to save face to both sides The European nations that are doing this are apparently Austria and Hungary…. Austria are Further to the right than most and Orban is trying to stay on the right side Putin I don’t think other countries will do it… Oh dear, looks like several countries are doing exactly the same. Are they further to the right or trying to stay on the right side of Putin too Energy companies have had a warning shot fired across their bows by the EU commission by stating that if they set up another account in roubles for the purpose of paying gazprom which was specifically stated in contracts they pay in euros, it will be seen as circumvention and an act of breaking EU sanctions And what exactly is going to be the punishment??? The EU will commit to turning the entire supply off from Russia to keep solidarity in the union." I very much doubt it. More likely the individual members will look after themselves and to hell with solidarity | |||
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