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By *ackal1 OP   Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

With all the issues going on around both MPs and the PMs behaviour along with what appears to be car crash methods of decision and planning by the cabinet am I alone in being really concerned that this is the worst bunch of people to run our country in modern times?

I just feel they literally have no idea what they are doing or how to address the country’s increasing problems. The excess cash that was being syphoned off has now gone so we have some serious problems to solve which a lot of people literally can’t afford so there is no room to move.

Even the FT is now claiming the sleaze and cash laundering in this country has completely skewered our government and the city. They are saying it has damaged the very core of a free press and severely damaged our democracy. The recent crime bill has tinkered with the edges they mentioned and they hoped an updated version would help. They made it clear we are clearly under the influence of kleptocracies around the world due to our money laundering services.

The Ukraine war has exposed the true scale of our dirty secret.

The figures for major banks and large size lawyers cleaning dirty money are astounding but also 175 educational organisations have helped to clean suspected dirty cash. These numbers don’t include the British offshore washing. That’s surely endemic corruption?

Make no mistake I’m not overly confident of the opposition parties either. Other than they may respect people more and care for the average person a bit more but I’m not convinced they will be great either.

What do we need to do to stop this chronic rotten direction of our country.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Jump on and bring a big spoon.

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By *instonandLadyAstorCouple
over a year ago

Not where we seem to be...


"With all the issues going on around both MPs and the PMs behaviour along with what appears to be car crash methods of decision and planning by the cabinet am I alone in being really concerned that this is the worst bunch of people to run our country in modern times?

I just feel they literally have no idea what they are doing or how to address the country’s increasing problems. The excess cash that was being syphoned off has now gone so we have some serious problems to solve which a lot of people literally can’t afford so there is no room to move.

Even the FT is now claiming the sleaze and cash laundering in this country has completely skewered our government and the city. They are saying it has damaged the very core of a free press and severely damaged our democracy. The recent crime bill has tinkered with the edges they mentioned and they hoped an updated version would help. They made it clear we are clearly under the influence of kleptocracies around the world due to our money laundering services.

The Ukraine war has exposed the true scale of our dirty secret.

The figures for major banks and large size lawyers cleaning dirty money are astounding but also 175 educational organisations have helped to clean suspected dirty cash. These numbers don’t include the British offshore washing. That’s surely endemic corruption?

Make no mistake I’m not overly confident of the opposition parties either. Other than they may respect people more and care for the average person a bit more but I’m not convinced they will be great either.

What do we need to do to stop this chronic rotten direction of our country.

"

In answer to your question.... Vote.

Winston

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke


"With all the issues going on around both MPs and the PMs behaviour along with what appears to be car crash methods of decision and planning by the cabinet am I alone in being really concerned that this is the worst bunch of people to run our country in modern times?

I just feel they literally have no idea what they are doing or how to address the country’s increasing problems. The excess cash that was being syphoned off has now gone so we have some serious problems to solve which a lot of people literally can’t afford so there is no room to move.

Even the FT is now claiming the sleaze and cash laundering in this country has completely skewered our government and the city. They are saying it has damaged the very core of a free press and severely damaged our democracy. The recent crime bill has tinkered with the edges they mentioned and they hoped an updated version would help. They made it clear we are clearly under the influence of kleptocracies around the world due to our money laundering services.

The Ukraine war has exposed the true scale of our dirty secret.

The figures for major banks and large size lawyers cleaning dirty money are astounding but also 175 educational organisations have helped to clean suspected dirty cash. These numbers don’t include the British offshore washing. That’s surely endemic corruption?

Make no mistake I’m not overly confident of the opposition parties either. Other than they may respect people more and care for the average person a bit more but I’m not convinced they will be great either.

What do we need to do to stop this chronic rotten direction of our country.

"

Find more candidates from across the spectrum of life in this country. But hang on, aren't we doing that already?

Labour are split into so many divisions already, so nothing doing there.

Libs are in hibernation.

Greens are too specialist.

Extreme right-wingers are in absentia.

Monster Raving are really that serious, lol.

Simple answer is:

Labour or Conservative. Unless we have a civil war, that's what we will probably always have.

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan
over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney


"With all the issues going on around both MPs and the PMs behaviour along with what appears to be car crash methods of decision and planning by the cabinet am I alone in being really concerned that this is the worst bunch of people to run our country in modern times?

I just feel they literally have no idea what they are doing or how to address the country’s increasing problems. The excess cash that was being syphoned off has now gone so we have some serious problems to solve which a lot of people literally can’t afford so there is no room to move.

Even the FT is now claiming the sleaze and cash laundering in this country has completely skewered our government and the city. They are saying it has damaged the very core of a free press and severely damaged our democracy. The recent crime bill has tinkered with the edges they mentioned and they hoped an updated version would help. They made it clear we are clearly under the influence of kleptocracies around the world due to our money laundering services.

The Ukraine war has exposed the true scale of our dirty secret.

The figures for major banks and large size lawyers cleaning dirty money are astounding but also 175 educational organisations have helped to clean suspected dirty cash. These numbers don’t include the British offshore washing. That’s surely endemic corruption?

Make no mistake I’m not overly confident of the opposition parties either. Other than they may respect people more and care for the average person a bit more but I’m not convinced they will be great either.

What do we need to do to stop this chronic rotten direction of our country.

"

step 1. dump mmt monetarism. it's now a proven abject failure

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By *ackal1 OP   Couple
over a year ago

Manchester


"With all the issues going on around both MPs and the PMs behaviour along with what appears to be car crash methods of decision and planning by the cabinet am I alone in being really concerned that this is the worst bunch of people to run our country in modern times?

I just feel they literally have no idea what they are doing or how to address the country’s increasing problems. The excess cash that was being syphoned off has now gone so we have some serious problems to solve which a lot of people literally can’t afford so there is no room to move.

Even the FT is now claiming the sleaze and cash laundering in this country has completely skewered our government and the city. They are saying it has damaged the very core of a free press and severely damaged our democracy. The recent crime bill has tinkered with the edges they mentioned and they hoped an updated version would help. They made it clear we are clearly under the influence of kleptocracies around the world due to our money laundering services.

The Ukraine war has exposed the true scale of our dirty secret.

The figures for major banks and large size lawyers cleaning dirty money are astounding but also 175 educational organisations have helped to clean suspected dirty cash. These numbers don’t include the British offshore washing. That’s surely endemic corruption?

Make no mistake I’m not overly confident of the opposition parties either. Other than they may respect people more and care for the average person a bit more but I’m not convinced they will be great either.

What do we need to do to stop this chronic rotten direction of our country.

Find more candidates from across the spectrum of life in this country. But hang on, aren't we doing that already?

Labour are split into so many divisions already, so nothing doing there.

Libs are in hibernation.

Greens are too specialist.

Extreme right-wingers are in absentia.

Monster Raving are really that serious, lol.

Simple answer is:

Labour or Conservative. Unless we have a civil war, that's what we will probably always have.

"

Indeed maybe true but look at the 60% of MPs parachuted in so the level of ability is becoming worse as they do not have the first rule of independent thought.

Voting now is a choice between two London offices. They basically churn out low grade candidates who tow the line. Where is the democracy in that??

Watching the MPs totally fail to come up with any progress since Brexit ( yes covid has hurt ) just exposes the total lack of quality on any joined up thinking. and I’m aiming that at both Tory and Labour.

Brexit was a ground shattering event and it’s as if they are just crossing their fingers and hoping for the best. We need more action to address the negatives and at least try to do something positive rather than just for show. Japan, Australia New Zealand new deals are negative so why are we accepting it why aren’t they getting better deals. Is it laziness or incompetence.

Where are targeted tax breaks for the small exporters to at least try to help them recover their lost trade. It’s a shrug of the shoulders and walk away .

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By *rDiscretionXXXMan
over a year ago

Gilfach


"step 1. dump mmt monetarism. it's now a proven abject failure "

Do any of the parties advocate MMT?

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By *lixerMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

The UK state is the Establishment's game. The unwritten constitution. Lords. Royalty.The whole thing needs torn down.

I pray and work for the Scottish Breakaway.Westminster can't survive that without major reform.

Support a normal Scottish nation state and get a better RUK as a bonus.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's not simply a case of voting in a new party or MP's. The whole government, including civil service and the various ministries are corrupt.

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton


"It's not simply a case of voting in a new party or MP's. The whole government, including civil service and the various ministries are corrupt."

Many MPs yes. Most/all of current Cabinet yes. Civil Service hmmmm no. Some yes (the same as in any huge corporation) but all Civil Service, absolutely not. Some of the most hard working, intelligent, ethical, conscientious people I have ever worked with in my career have been Civil Servants. Their biggest challenge is dealing with the shortermist madness that comes down from Ministers!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think Independant candidates are the answer. I've noticed a trend in my area of I dependant councillors standing and more often being voted in, at local council level. Because yes people are sick of career politicians towing the party line. Parachuted in from other areas. Showing no real regard for local issues. If this could be scaled up to MP level, if people voted for the Independant candidate they thought cared about the issues they cared about, well then maybe the main parties would start to sit up anc take notice. Or entirely new parties could be formed, as I concede a coalition of Independats would find forming a government tricky. Of only people could remove the coloured blinkers, blue or red

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton


"I think Independant candidates are the answer. I've noticed a trend in my area of I dependant councillors standing and more often being voted in, at local council level. Because yes people are sick of career politicians towing the party line. Parachuted in from other areas. Showing no real regard for local issues. If this could be scaled up to MP level, if people voted for the Independant candidate they thought cared about the issues they cared about, well then maybe the main parties would start to sit up anc take notice. Or entirely new parties could be formed, as I concede a coalition of Independats would find forming a government tricky. Of only people could remove the coloured blinkers, blue or red"

The parachuted in is another example of why FPTP and constituency politics is failing us. It should be mandatory that the candidates should live in the constituency. Ideally have done so for a minimal amount of time too.

That combined with power of whip undermines and semblance that constituency politics is a thing or local issues can influence national politics. We need Proportional Representation.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

You make a great point op. For me I see two issues. One is the process that we call rather comfortably and lazily democracy. It's not just a matter of voting. But rather being offered candidates to vote for that offer differences and that can be trusted to hold those values once elected. At the moment it's all well and good to say "vote" fixes it, but sometimes the vote is a choice between a stalin and a hitler...who will be the least worst.?

But then as you allude to op... Is the quality of the candidates, yes men/women bringing nothing else to the table .. The lack of coherent strategy, the lack of ability, the lack of decision making processes... Where is the apolitical civil service in all of this.?

Then you look at the quality, values and aspirations of the electorate... Everyman for themselves. Sure some are doing very nicely but many many more are struggling.

I thought Boris would have been a good leader but he dips in and out of "I'll decide.. No you decide" like a dippy in and out thing and we have trod water for the last 5 years whilst being loaded up with more lead bricks.

I struggle to see how 2 party politics is the answer... If there was a way to achieve a unity govt for 10 years, take the best and most suited for government out of the 650 elected we might stand a chance to move forward a bit.

Can it be worse...? I am sure it can... Can it be better? Oh it certainly can be better.

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