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"Is it time to open them to all and not just the poor?" This is wild. Lmao. | |||
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"Reports that teachers are having to use foodbanks. Won't we all be using them soon?. Is it time to open them to all and not just the poor?" Sry who said teachers are poor. ?  | |||
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"Reports that teachers are having to use foodbanks. Won't we all be using them soon?. Is it time to open them to all and not just the poor? Sry who said teachers are poor. ? "I think it’s based on the idea foodbanks are used by those that are poor. And teachers are using them? | |||
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"Food banks won't exist when we're all poor." You speak for yourself, I have no intention of ever being poor. | |||
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"Food banks won't exist when we're all poor. You speak for yourself, I have no intention of ever being poor. "Nobody intends to be poor. That doesn’t read very well | |||
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"Reports that teachers are having to use foodbanks. Won't we all be using them soon?. Is it time to open them to all and not just the poor? Sry who said teachers are poor. ?
I think it’s based on the idea foodbanks are used by those that are poor. And teachers are using them?"There maybe using them because fueling their cars and paying a mortgage is costing more , sell the car or Car share, downsize the house or taken in a lodger , job done.  | |||
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"Food banks won't exist when we're all poor. You speak for yourself, I have no intention of ever being poor. "I’m sure those using food banks regularly dreamed of that as a child | |||
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"Food banks won't exist when we're all poor. You speak for yourself, I have no intention of ever being poor. "Good for you | |||
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"Reports that teachers are having to use foodbanks. Won't we all be using them soon?. Is it time to open them to all and not just the poor? Sry who said teachers are poor. ? "Teaching doesn't pay as much as some people think. The entry salary isn't fantastic and going up through the scales is dependant on qualifications and time worked. I have colleagues who work part-time and are single parents. They constantly juggle their finances. | |||
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"Reports that teachers are having to use foodbanks. Won't we all be using them soon?. Is it time to open them to all and not just the poor? Sry who said teachers are poor. ?
I think it’s based on the idea foodbanks are used by those that are poor. And teachers are using them?
There maybe using them because fueling their cars and paying a mortgage is costing more , sell the car or Car share, downsize the house or taken in a lodger , job done. "Such easy solutions | |||
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"Reports that teachers are having to use foodbanks. Won't we all be using them soon?. Is it time to open them to all and not just the poor? Sry who said teachers are poor. ?
I think it’s based on the idea foodbanks are used by those that are poor. And teachers are using them?
There maybe using them because fueling their cars and paying a mortgage is costing more , sell the car or Car share, downsize the house or taken in a lodger , job done. "And the teachers living in house share arrangements? That are getting public transport to work everyday? That work insane hours? I am guessing if they stop buying avocado toast they’ll be better off? | |||
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"The whole point of food banks are to help those in greatest need. If most of the country is in need, the solution is not to open them to all. The solution is to remove those from power that have no concept of what it is like to live in the real world. Those who show no compassion for those who cannot feed their children. And those who are using the class system to justify their actions on a daily basis. And before anyone pipes up about the same whoever is in power crap. No it's not the case. Don't defend people who don't think twice about fucking you over on a daily basis. People need to wake up to what's going on around them, we are all people who deserve a good quality of living. Just because it's not affecting you yet, doesn't mean it doesn't exist." Well said. | |||
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"Reports that teachers are having to use foodbanks. Won't we all be using them soon?. Is it time to open them to all and not just the poor? Sry who said teachers are poor. ?
I think it’s based on the idea foodbanks are used by those that are poor. And teachers are using them?
There maybe using them because fueling their cars and paying a mortgage is costing more , sell the car or Car share, downsize the house or taken in a lodger , job done. "Oh isn't life just so simple. | |||
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"Reports that teachers are having to use foodbanks. Won't we all be using them soon?. Is it time to open them to all and not just the poor? Sry who said teachers are poor. ?
I think it’s based on the idea foodbanks are used by those that are poor. And teachers are using them?
There maybe using them because fueling their cars and paying a mortgage is costing more , sell the car or Car share, downsize the house or taken in a lodger , job done. "What about if you need the car or you don’t have one - What about if you’ve already downsized or renting It’s not simple at all and it’s pure ignorance to think it is  | |||
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"Reports that teachers are having to use foodbanks. Won't we all be using them soon?. Is it time to open them to all and not just the poor? Sry who said teachers are poor. ?
I think it’s based on the idea foodbanks are used by those that are poor. And teachers are using them?
There maybe using them because fueling their cars and paying a mortgage is costing more , sell the car or Car share, downsize the house or taken in a lodger , job done. "Agreed! Or even a kidney, most people have two and one is enough. Simple solutions. | |||
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"The whole point of food banks are to help those in greatest need. If most of the country is in need, the solution is not to open them to all. The solution is to remove those from power that have no concept of what it is like to live in the real world. Those who show no compassion for those who cannot feed their children. And those who are using the class system to justify their actions on a daily basis. And before anyone pipes up about the same whoever is in power crap. No it's not the case. Don't defend people who don't think twice about fucking you over on a daily basis. People need to wake up to what's going on around them, we are all people who deserve a good quality of living. Just because it's not affecting you yet, doesn't mean it doesn't exist." Spot on.... | |||
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"Food banks won't exist when we're all poor. You speak for yourself, I have no intention of ever being poor.
Nobody intends to be poor. That doesn’t read very well"Not it doesn't does it? | |||
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"Reports that teachers are having to use foodbanks. Won't we all be using them soon?. Is it time to open them to all and not just the poor? Sry who said teachers are poor. ?
I think it’s based on the idea foodbanks are used by those that are poor. And teachers are using them?
There maybe using them because fueling their cars and paying a mortgage is costing more , sell the car or Car share, downsize the house or taken in a lodger , job done. "Or we could pay teachers more to educate the country's children? | |||
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"The whole point of food banks are to help those in greatest need. If most of the country is in need, the solution is not to open them to all. The solution is to remove those from power that have no concept of what it is like to live in the real world. Those who show no compassion for those who cannot feed their children. And those who are using the class system to justify their actions on a daily basis. And before anyone pipes up about the same whoever is in power crap. No it's not the case. Don't defend people who don't think twice about fucking you over on a daily basis. People need to wake up to what's going on around them, we are all people who deserve a good quality of living. Just because it's not affecting you yet, doesn't mean it doesn't exist." Well said. I pray people en masse wake up to what’s really happening in recent times. | |||
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"Reports that teachers are having to use foodbanks. Won't we all be using them soon?. Is it time to open them to all and not just the poor? Sry who said teachers are poor. ?
I think it’s based on the idea foodbanks are used by those that are poor. And teachers are using them?
There maybe using them because fueling their cars and paying a mortgage is costing more , sell the car or Car share, downsize the house or taken in a lodger , job done.
Or we could pay teachers more to educate the country's children?"There’s no magic money tree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | |||
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"Food banks won't exist when we're all poor. You speak for yourself, I have no intention of ever being poor. "I thought that too. I was wrong. So wrong. So so wrong. Being days away from being evicted and the threat of bankruptcy hanging over me was no fun. Winston | |||
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"Reports that teachers are having to use foodbanks. Won't we all be using them soon?. Is it time to open them to all and not just the poor? Sry who said teachers are poor. ?
I think it’s based on the idea foodbanks are used by those that are poor. And teachers are using them?
There maybe using them because fueling their cars and paying a mortgage is costing more , sell the car or Car share, downsize the house or taken in a lodger , job done. "It’s rarely that simple, that’s a very simplistic way of thinking. | |||
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"Reports that teachers are having to use foodbanks. Won't we all be using them soon?. Is it time to open them to all and not just the poor?" Why stop there, lets give everyone a guide dog! | |||
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"Reports that teachers are having to use foodbanks. Won't we all be using them soon?. Is it time to open them to all and not just the poor? Sry who said teachers are poor. ?
I think it’s based on the idea foodbanks are used by those that are poor. And teachers are using them?
There maybe using them because fueling their cars and paying a mortgage is costing more , sell the car or Car share, downsize the house or taken in a lodger , job done.
Or we could pay teachers more to educate the country's children?
There’s no magic money tree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"Quite right. I forgot we also need to spend the same amount sending a single refugee to Rwanda as it does to put a child through primary school. But, you know, priorities. | |||
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"Reports that teachers are having to use foodbanks. Won't we all be using them soon?. Is it time to open them to all and not just the poor? Sry who said teachers are poor. ?
I think it’s based on the idea foodbanks are used by those that are poor. And teachers are using them?
There maybe using them because fueling their cars and paying a mortgage is costing more , sell the car or Car share, downsize the house or taken in a lodger , job done. "Job done? Do you actually live in the real world? Have you seen the stats for how many more people will be living in poverty since a 54% increase in energy? 1.25% increase in NI. 4.3% increase food costs in March alone. I'm gobsmacked that people can make such trite statements about those struggling. | |||
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"Food banks won't exist when we're all poor. You speak for yourself, I have no intention of ever being poor.
Nobody intends to be poor. That doesn’t read very well
Not it doesn't does it? "Didn’t you too pray for days spent wondering where all your money for food had gone? I did. | |||
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"Reports that teachers are having to use foodbanks. Won't we all be using them soon?. Is it time to open them to all and not just the poor? Sry who said teachers are poor. ?
I think it’s based on the idea foodbanks are used by those that are poor. And teachers are using them?
There maybe using them because fueling their cars and paying a mortgage is costing more , sell the car or Car share, downsize the house or taken in a lodger , job done. "*waves wand and of the world's problems are solved. To say that's an over simplification of a solution is this years biggest understatement so far..... FFS some people's empathy and understanding never fails to amaze me. Winston | |||
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"It all depends on the priorities. I (Mr) have no objection with anyone using food banks regardless of their salaries, what I have an issue with is people living beyond their means and choosing personal perks (tabs, booze, takeaways) over necessities. We used to see it a lot when we struggled financially when young e.g. we needed support from the PDSA for our cat and would donate what we could, yet people would be there with their £2k pedigree dog claiming poverty." I hate this attitude. Should they just sell that dog if they suddenly become poor? I’m luckily in a decent financial position. If me and my wife split tomorrow we’d both be forced into poverty. Circumstances can change overnight. | |||
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"Reports that teachers are having to use foodbanks. Won't we all be using them soon?. Is it time to open them to all and not just the poor? Sry who said teachers are poor. ?
I think it’s based on the idea foodbanks are used by those that are poor. And teachers are using them?
There maybe using them because fueling their cars and paying a mortgage is costing more , sell the car or Car share, downsize the house or taken in a lodger , job done.
Or we could pay teachers more to educate the country's children?
There’s no magic money tree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"There is when it's contracts for ministers' buddies... | |||
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"Reports that teachers are having to use foodbanks. Won't we all be using them soon?. Is it time to open them to all and not just the poor? Sry who said teachers are poor. ?
I think it’s based on the idea foodbanks are used by those that are poor. And teachers are using them?
There maybe using them because fueling their cars and paying a mortgage is costing more , sell the car or Car share, downsize the house or taken in a lodger , job done. "For me it’s the absolutely mad idea that this is the reality for teachers. As in of course they all own their own homes. And they all can afford cars. And that’s the reason they’re using foodbanks. That’s what’s spinning me. This has to be a troll. | |||
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"The whole point of food banks are to help those in greatest need. If most of the country is in need, the solution is not to open them to all. The solution is to remove those from power that have no concept of what it is like to live in the real world. Those who show no compassion for those who cannot feed their children. And those who are using the class system to justify their actions on a daily basis. And before anyone pipes up about the same whoever is in power crap. No it's not the case. Don't defend people who don't think twice about fucking you over on a daily basis. People need to wake up to what's going on around them, we are all people who deserve a good quality of living. Just because it's not affecting you yet, doesn't mean it doesn't exist." This, ^^^^ We accept the shite the government forces upon us, we accept food banks as normality, we let charities do the work the voted polititians are meant to do and we mope about complaining how shit the system is. But that's ALL we do !!! My 3 kids never got handouts or help, they left school at 16 and found jobs paying shit money, they bring up their kids regardless of extortionate nursery costs and they struggle , they take extra weekends jobs to make things work or just to get by, they've never been to a food bank but don't try and shame me with smart azz comments because I say a teacher shouldn't need a food bank. Do some private tuition work at weekends if your struggling. You get out of life what you put in. Yes circumstances change for people but that's life too. | |||
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"Reports that teachers are having to use foodbanks. Won't we all be using them soon?. Is it time to open them to all and not just the poor? Sry who said teachers are poor. ?
I think it’s based on the idea foodbanks are used by those that are poor. And teachers are using them?
There maybe using them because fueling their cars and paying a mortgage is costing more , sell the car or Car share, downsize the house or taken in a lodger , job done.
Or we could pay teachers more to educate the country's children?
There’s no magic money tree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There is when it's contracts for ministers' buddies..."Nobody was supposed to find out about that  . | |||
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"It all depends on the priorities. I (Mr) have no objection with anyone using food banks regardless of their salaries, what I have an issue with is people living beyond their means and choosing personal perks (tabs, booze, takeaways) over necessities. We used to see it a lot when we struggled financially when young e.g. we needed support from the PDSA for our cat and would donate what we could, yet people would be there with their £2k pedigree dog claiming poverty. I hate this attitude. Should they just sell that dog if they suddenly become poor? I’m luckily in a decent financial position. If me and my wife split tomorrow we’d both be forced into poverty. Circumstances can change overnight." Yes, this. I have four children. Would anyone like to attack me for not thinking about what I could afford before I had kids? I should have thought about money before I was pregnant with twins by accident? Before I was made redundant? Before my ex decided to leave immediately after? | |||
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"The whole point of food banks are to help those in greatest need. If most of the country is in need, the solution is not to open them to all. The solution is to remove those from power that have no concept of what it is like to live in the real world. Those who show no compassion for those who cannot feed their children. And those who are using the class system to justify their actions on a daily basis. And before anyone pipes up about the same whoever is in power crap. No it's not the case. Don't defend people who don't think twice about fucking you over on a daily basis. People need to wake up to what's going on around them, we are all people who deserve a good quality of living. Just because it's not affecting you yet, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. This, ^^^^ We accept the shite the government forces upon us, we accept food banks as normality, we let charities do the work the voted polititians are meant to do and we mope about complaining how shit the system is. But that's ALL we do !!! My 3 kids never got handouts or help, they left school at 16 and found jobs paying shit money, they bring up their kids regardless of extortionate nursery costs and they struggle , they take extra weekends jobs to make things work or just to get by, they've never been to a food bank but don't try and shame me with smart azz comments because I say a teacher shouldn't need a food bank. Do some private tuition work at weekends if your struggling. You get out of life what you put in. Yes circumstances change for people but that's life too. " You've been lucky. Very very very lucky. So far........ There but for the grace of God. Winston | |||
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"The whole point of food banks are to help those in greatest need. If most of the country is in need, the solution is not to open them to all. The solution is to remove those from power that have no concept of what it is like to live in the real world. Those who show no compassion for those who cannot feed their children. And those who are using the class system to justify their actions on a daily basis. And before anyone pipes up about the same whoever is in power crap. No it's not the case. Don't defend people who don't think twice about fucking you over on a daily basis. People need to wake up to what's going on around them, we are all people who deserve a good quality of living. Just because it's not affecting you yet, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. This, ^^^^ We accept the shite the government forces upon us, we accept food banks as normality, we let charities do the work the voted polititians are meant to do and we mope about complaining how shit the system is. But that's ALL we do !!! My 3 kids never got handouts or help, they left school at 16 and found jobs paying shit money, they bring up their kids regardless of extortionate nursery costs and they struggle , they take extra weekends jobs to make things work or just to get by, they've never been to a food bank but don't try and shame me with smart azz comments because I say a teacher shouldn't need a food bank. Do some private tuition work at weekends if your struggling. You get out of life what you put in. Yes circumstances change for people but that's life too. " It’s really not that simple to say just do some private tuition at the weekend  | |||
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"It all depends on the priorities. I (Mr) have no objection with anyone using food banks regardless of their salaries, what I have an issue with is people living beyond their means and choosing personal perks (tabs, booze, takeaways) over necessities. We used to see it a lot when we struggled financially when young e.g. we needed support from the PDSA for our cat and would donate what we could, yet people would be there with their £2k pedigree dog claiming poverty." People’s circumstances change and their pets still need treatment. I’ve been quite lucky as I hung onto my job by the skin of my teeth, but in the last 15 years I developed a severe health condition that stops many people who have it working at all. And my high earning husband had cancer and died at 50. I’m far from the only person who has circumstances like that. Rescues are full so not only would them giving up their dog be bad for them (my cats got me through getting used to living alone), but it would be shit for the animal as well. | |||
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"The whole point of food banks are to help those in greatest need. If most of the country is in need, the solution is not to open them to all. The solution is to remove those from power that have no concept of what it is like to live in the real world. Those who show no compassion for those who cannot feed their children. And those who are using the class system to justify their actions on a daily basis. And before anyone pipes up about the same whoever is in power crap. No it's not the case. Don't defend people who don't think twice about fucking you over on a daily basis. People need to wake up to what's going on around them, we are all people who deserve a good quality of living. Just because it's not affecting you yet, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. This, ^^^^ We accept the shite the government forces upon us, we accept food banks as normality, we let charities do the work the voted polititians are meant to do and we mope about complaining how shit the system is. But that's ALL we do !!! My 3 kids never got handouts or help, they left school at 16 and found jobs paying shit money, they bring up their kids regardless of extortionate nursery costs and they struggle , they take extra weekends jobs to make things work or just to get by, they've never been to a food bank but don't try and shame me with smart azz comments because I say a teacher shouldn't need a food bank. Do some private tuition work at weekends if your struggling. You get out of life what you put in. Yes circumstances change for people but that's life too. " And you have no idea of people's circumstances. No idea at all. Any teacher I know wouldn't have the scope to do private tuition work - do you know how many hours they work at weekends? I have a friend in tears at the work she has to do over Easter messaging me right now. You're alright so sod everyone else. | |||
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" I hate this attitude. Should they just sell that dog if they suddenly become poor? I’m luckily in a decent financial position. If me and my wife split tomorrow we’d both be forced into poverty. Circumstances can change overnight." It's cheating the system, if you could afford to pay for a pedigree dog then you can afford to pay for their insurance. These people were using the PDSA because they didn't have insurance. | |||
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"The whole point of food banks are to help those in greatest need. If most of the country is in need, the solution is not to open them to all. The solution is to remove those from power that have no concept of what it is like to live in the real world. Those who show no compassion for those who cannot feed their children. And those who are using the class system to justify their actions on a daily basis. And before anyone pipes up about the same whoever is in power crap. No it's not the case. Don't defend people who don't think twice about fucking you over on a daily basis. People need to wake up to what's going on around them, we are all people who deserve a good quality of living. Just because it's not affecting you yet, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. This, ^^^^ We accept the shite the government forces upon us, we accept food banks as normality, we let charities do the work the voted polititians are meant to do and we mope about complaining how shit the system is. But that's ALL we do !!! My 3 kids never got handouts or help, they left school at 16 and found jobs paying shit money, they bring up their kids regardless of extortionate nursery costs and they struggle , they take extra weekends jobs to make things work or just to get by, they've never been to a food bank but don't try and shame me with smart azz comments because I say a teacher shouldn't need a food bank. Do some private tuition work at weekends if your struggling. You get out of life what you put in. Yes circumstances change for people but that's life too. " This idea that this is normal is madness. I’m genuinely sorry that your kids and myself and millions of others have to consider taking second or third jobs to be able to afford survival. Wanting a society in which food and shelter is a realistic, affordable and sustainable option for *everyone* is really not even radical. People are doing everything they can. It’s insulting to even suggest they’re not or that they should be doing more. And to suggest that teachers that are using foodbanks aren’t already doing everything they can. Doubling down here is not what I expected but what can I say. Disappointed but not surprised. | |||
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"It all depends on the priorities. I (Mr) have no objection with anyone using food banks regardless of their salaries, what I have an issue with is people living beyond their means and choosing personal perks (tabs, booze, takeaways) over necessities. We used to see it a lot when we struggled financially when young e.g. we needed support from the PDSA for our cat and would donate what we could, yet people would be there with their £2k pedigree dog claiming poverty. I hate this attitude. Should they just sell that dog if they suddenly become poor? I’m luckily in a decent financial position. If me and my wife split tomorrow we’d both be forced into poverty. Circumstances can change overnight. Yes, this. I have four children. Would anyone like to attack me for not thinking about what I could afford before I had kids? I should have thought about money before I was pregnant with twins by accident? Before I was made redundant? Before my ex decided to leave immediately after? " Exactly. I have a fairly well paid job and should be able to afford luxuries but that could all be taken away from me very easily. I can’t just stop paying the finance on my car, my phone contract, my mortgage and my tv and internet subscription. All the people who wanted us to stop foreign aid and look after our own all of sudden don’t give a shit about poverty in Britain. | |||
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" I hate this attitude. Should they just sell that dog if they suddenly become poor? I’m luckily in a decent financial position. If me and my wife split tomorrow we’d both be forced into poverty. Circumstances can change overnight. It's cheating the system, if you could afford to pay for a pedigree dog then you can afford to pay for their insurance. These people were using the PDSA because they didn't have insurance." Did you ask them what financial situation they were in when they paid 2k for a dog? | |||
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" I hate this attitude. Should they just sell that dog if they suddenly become poor? I’m luckily in a decent financial position. If me and my wife split tomorrow we’d both be forced into poverty. Circumstances can change overnight. It's cheating the system, if you could afford to pay for a pedigree dog then you can afford to pay for their insurance. These people were using the PDSA because they didn't have insurance." Ok. So let's say someone cheated the system. Does that mean we shouldn't have a system? That we shouldn't have support for those in need? I use PDSA. I have a rescue dog. Adopted with my ex when we had money. My ex abandoned all support for him and the bills are all mine to pay if he needs treatment. I'm very grateful that I can access the PDSA and take care of my dog. | |||
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" I hate this attitude. Should they just sell that dog if they suddenly become poor? I’m luckily in a decent financial position. If me and my wife split tomorrow we’d both be forced into poverty. Circumstances can change overnight. It's cheating the system, if you could afford to pay for a pedigree dog then you can afford to pay for their insurance. These people were using the PDSA because they didn't have insurance. Did you ask them what financial situation they were in when they paid 2k for a dog? " And how do you even know they paid 2k for the dog, receipt attached to his collar? Adoption and rescuing dogs do exist you know, they don't all come from breeders. Actual poverty going on in the country right now and we are debating over a cost of a dog. | |||
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"The whole point of food banks are to help those in greatest need. If most of the country is in need, the solution is not to open them to all. The solution is to remove those from power that have no concept of what it is like to live in the real world. Those who show no compassion for those who cannot feed their children. And those who are using the class system to justify their actions on a daily basis. And before anyone pipes up about the same whoever is in power crap. No it's not the case. Don't defend people who don't think twice about fucking you over on a daily basis. People need to wake up to what's going on around them, we are all people who deserve a good quality of living. Just because it's not affecting you yet, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. This, ^^^^ We accept the shite the government forces upon us, we accept food banks as normality, we let charities do the work the voted polititians are meant to do and we mope about complaining how shit the system is. But that's ALL we do !!! My 3 kids never got handouts or help, they left school at 16 and found jobs paying shit money, they bring up their kids regardless of extortionate nursery costs and they struggle , they take extra weekends jobs to make things work or just to get by, they've never been to a food bank but don't try and shame me with smart azz comments because I say a teacher shouldn't need a food bank. Do some private tuition work at weekends if your struggling. You get out of life what you put in. Yes circumstances change for people but that's life too. This idea that this is normal is madness. I’m genuinely sorry that your kids and myself and millions of others have to consider taking second or third jobs to be able to afford survival. Wanting a society in which food and shelter is a realistic, affordable and sustainable option for *everyone* is really not even radical. People are doing everything they can. It’s insulting to even suggest they’re not or that they should be doing more. And to suggest that teachers that are using foodbanks aren’t already doing everything they can. Doubling down here is not what I expected but what can I say. Disappointed but not surprised. " I never actually said it was normal I said it was generally accepted as the norm, instead of accepting it get tell the people in power , but nobody does. People should do what they need to do. Does anyone have a genuine reason why a teacher can't do some private tuition work. I'm curious by the way not simply having a dig. | |||
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" I hate this attitude. Should they just sell that dog if they suddenly become poor? I’m luckily in a decent financial position. If me and my wife split tomorrow we’d both be forced into poverty. Circumstances can change overnight. It's cheating the system, if you could afford to pay for a pedigree dog then you can afford to pay for their insurance. These people were using the PDSA because they didn't have insurance. Did you ask them what financial situation they were in when they paid 2k for a dog? " I blame unscruplous dog breeders. They should do credit checks on the buyers and not sell them to those can't afford to feed or pay vet bills. By that logic I am not sure I would sell a dog to a person using a foodbank and that includes teachers... | |||
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"Does anyone have a genuine reason why a teacher can't do some private tuition work. I'm curious by the way not simply having a dig. " Your missing the point. Anyone who has a job in this country should be able to have a good quality of living and their wages should reflect that. No one should have to take on extra jobs when they are already working full time, that's the point. | |||
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" I hate this attitude. Should they just sell that dog if they suddenly become poor? I’m luckily in a decent financial position. If me and my wife split tomorrow we’d both be forced into poverty. Circumstances can change overnight. It's cheating the system, if you could afford to pay for a pedigree dog then you can afford to pay for their insurance. These people were using the PDSA because they didn't have insurance. Did you ask them what financial situation they were in when they paid 2k for a dog? I blame unscruplous dog breeders. They should do credit checks on the buyers and not sell them to those can't afford to feed or pay vet bills. By that logic I am not sure I would sell a dog to a person using a foodbank and that includes teachers..." Nobody on benefits and using food banks are buying dogs for £2000. Britain is a proud nation. Do you realise how hard it must be to go to a food bank for the first time? People aren’t just doing it for shits and giggles. | |||
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" Doubling down here is not what I expected but what can I say. Disappointed but not surprised. I never actually said it was normal I said it was generally accepted as the norm, instead of accepting it get tell the people in power , but nobody does. People should do what they need to do. Does anyone have a genuine reason why a teacher can't do some private tuition work. I'm curious by the way not simply having a dig. " I think firstly people are doing all they can. That’s what I take issue with- the implication that they’re not. Secondly, lots of teachers that can and do have the time, resources and contacts to do things like tutoring, do. Teaching isn’t a 8-3 Monday to Friday job. It’s far more demanding than that. Plenty of teachers that can and do have time take extra work on holidays to get extra money. And still struggle by the way. Finally, as was said, the point is that they shouldn’t need to do all these things simply to survive. Working that many days and hours is not good quality of life that one, in my opinion, should be entitled to. 6/7 day working weeks? Absolutely no way that’s even sustainable for humans just for them to simply stay above (barely) the poverty line. | |||
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"Does anyone have a genuine reason why a teacher can't do some private tuition work. I'm curious by the way not simply having a dig. Your missing the point. Anyone who has a job in this country should be able to have a good quality of living and their wages should reflect that. No one should have to take on extra jobs when they are already working full time, that's the point." No it's you that's missing the point , what you describe as what shouldn't be happening in this day and age is not the reality of this day and age. So you have 2 options accept the food banks situation and mump and moan about how wrong it is or accept reality and do what you have to do in accordance with how the world is now and help yourself the best way you can. | |||
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"Does anyone have a genuine reason why a teacher can't do some private tuition work. I'm curious by the way not simply having a dig. Your missing the point. Anyone who has a job in this country should be able to have a good quality of living and their wages should reflect that. No one should have to take on extra jobs when they are already working full time, that's the point. No it's you that's missing the point , what you describe as what shouldn't be happening in this day and age is not the reality of this day and age. So you have 2 options accept the food banks situation and mump and moan about how wrong it is or accept reality and do what you have to do in accordance with how the world is now and help yourself the best way you can. " Do you have kids? | |||
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"Does anyone have a genuine reason why a teacher can't do some private tuition work. I'm curious by the way not simply having a dig. Your missing the point. Anyone who has a job in this country should be able to have a good quality of living and their wages should reflect that. No one should have to take on extra jobs when they are already working full time, that's the point. No it's you that's missing the point , what you describe as what shouldn't be happening in this day and age is not the reality of this day and age. So you have 2 options accept the food banks situation and mump and moan about how wrong it is or accept reality and do what you have to do in accordance with how the world is now and help yourself the best way you can. " This is also such an assumption. That all that any of us do is sit around and do nothing rather than actually get involved in community organising or work with charities etc. Or even that we voted for this government or Aren’t doing anything to change things from local levels up to Government levels. You have literally no clue that everyone in here or anywhere that moans about this is a passive accepting citizen of this situation. | |||
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"Does anyone have a genuine reason why a teacher can't do some private tuition work. I'm curious by the way not simply having a dig. Your missing the point. Anyone who has a job in this country should be able to have a good quality of living and their wages should reflect that. No one should have to take on extra jobs when they are already working full time, that's the point. No it's you that's missing the point , what you describe as what shouldn't be happening in this day and age is not the reality of this day and age. So you have 2 options accept the food banks situation and mump and moan about how wrong it is or accept reality and do what you have to do in accordance with how the world is now and help yourself the best way you can. Do you have kids?" 3 if you read further up they most certainly don't have it easy either. | |||
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"Does anyone have a genuine reason why a teacher can't do some private tuition work. I'm curious by the way not simply having a dig. Your missing the point. Anyone who has a job in this country should be able to have a good quality of living and their wages should reflect that. No one should have to take on extra jobs when they are already working full time, that's the point. No it's you that's missing the point , what you describe as what shouldn't be happening in this day and age is not the reality of this day and age. So you have 2 options accept the food banks situation and mump and moan about how wrong it is or accept reality and do what you have to do in accordance with how the world is now and help yourself the best way you can. " Why should we accept a version of reality of working people working to the bone just for their basic needs and the rich profiting from their misery. Every person tries to 'help theirselves as much as they can' but that divide is becoming increasingly more difficult to cover. We have to be grateful for wages that don't reflect inflation or standards of living because we need to keep our jobs to survive. Hate to break it to you but the need to survive in this world just doesn't come from within, your environments and circumstances have a big impact on that. There's never just a simple solution remember that. | |||
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"Does anyone have a genuine reason why a teacher can't do some private tuition work. I'm curious by the way not simply having a dig. Your missing the point. Anyone who has a job in this country should be able to have a good quality of living and their wages should reflect that. No one should have to take on extra jobs when they are already working full time, that's the point. No it's you that's missing the point , what you describe as what shouldn't be happening in this day and age is not the reality of this day and age. So you have 2 options accept the food banks situation and mump and moan about how wrong it is or accept reality and do what you have to do in accordance with how the world is now and help yourself the best way you can. This is also such an assumption. That all that any of us do is sit around and do nothing rather than actually get involved in community organising or work with charities etc. Or even that we voted for this government or Aren’t doing anything to change things from local levels up to Government levels. You have literally no clue that everyone in here or anywhere that moans about this is a passive accepting citizen of this situation. " Well let's call it evens bud or poetic licence as your saying that everyone on the flip side of my argument is NOT in the position to help themselves out of a bad financial situation. We can both agree surely that on individual an cases basis there will be sponges milking the system and the food banks and others who do genuinely need them. How's that. ? | |||
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"Does anyone have a genuine reason why a teacher can't do some private tuition work. I'm curious by the way not simply having a dig. Your missing the point. Anyone who has a job in this country should be able to have a good quality of living and their wages should reflect that. No one should have to take on extra jobs when they are already working full time, that's the point. No it's you that's missing the point , what you describe as what shouldn't be happening in this day and age is not the reality of this day and age. So you have 2 options accept the food banks situation and mump and moan about how wrong it is or accept reality and do what you have to do in accordance with how the world is now and help yourself the best way you can. Why should we accept a version of reality of working people working to the bone just for their basic needs and the rich profiting from their misery. Every person tries to 'help theirselves as much as they can' but that divide is becoming increasingly more difficult to cover. We have to be grateful for wages that don't reflect inflation or standards of living because we need to keep our jobs to survive. Hate to break it to you but the need to survive in this world just doesn't come from within, your environments and circumstances have a big impact on that. There's never just a simple solution remember that." As per my last post , definitely not everyone is trying to help themselves out of there own situation. Poverty gaps are not a new concept either. Anyway I'm happy to agree to disagree. | |||
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"3 if you read further up they most certainly don't have it easy either.
Do you want teachers who aren’t 100% committed to be teaching your kids? Do you want teachers who are more bothered about their next meal than the education of the future of this country?"Not sure what this has to do with them doing private tuition work. Even 2 hours a week tuition could probably provide food for 3-4 days. When my daughter was struggling with dyslexia a teacher neighbour worked with her for 1 hour a week at £20 , the neighbour both found the time and never visited food banks. | |||
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"3 if you read further up they most certainly don't have it easy either.
Do you want teachers who aren’t 100% committed to be teaching your kids? Do you want teachers who are more bothered about their next meal than the education of the future of this country?
Not sure what this has to do with them doing private tuition work. Even 2 hours a week tuition could probably provide food for 3-4 days.
When my daughter was struggling with dyslexia a teacher neighbour worked with her for 1 hour a week at £20 , the neighbour both found the time and never visited food banks.
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" By that logic I am not sure I would sell a dog to a person using a foodbank and that includes teachers... You wouldn't sell a dog to a teacher yet they are trusted to educate our children ? " The State does not allow a baby to go to a home where the parents cannot feed them. Why should a dog be allowed to go to a home were the owner can't feed the dog. | |||
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"The whole point of food banks are to help those in greatest need. If most of the country is in need, the solution is not to open them to all. The solution is to remove those from power that have no concept of what it is like to live in the real world. Those who show no compassion for those who cannot feed their children. And those who are using the class system to justify their actions on a daily basis. And before anyone pipes up about the same whoever is in power crap. No it's not the case. Don't defend people who don't think twice about fucking you over on a daily basis. People need to wake up to what's going on around them, we are all people who deserve a good quality of living. Just because it's not affecting you yet, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. This, ^^^^ We accept the shite the government forces upon us, we accept food banks as normality, we let charities do the work the voted polititians are meant to do and we mope about complaining how shit the system is. But that's ALL we do !!! My 3 kids never got handouts or help, they left school at 16 and found jobs paying shit money, they bring up their kids regardless of extortionate nursery costs and they struggle , they take extra weekends jobs to make things work or just to get by, they've never been to a food bank but don't try and shame me with smart azz comments because I say a teacher shouldn't need a food bank. Do some private tuition work at weekends if your struggling. You get out of life what you put in. Yes circumstances change for people but that's life too. This idea that this is normal is madness. I’m genuinely sorry that your kids and myself and millions of others have to consider taking second or third jobs to be able to afford survival. Wanting a society in which food and shelter is a realistic, affordable and sustainable option for *everyone* is really not even radical. People are doing everything they can. It’s insulting to even suggest they’re not or that they should be doing more. And to suggest that teachers that are using foodbanks aren’t already doing everything they can. Doubling down here is not what I expected but what can I say. Disappointed but not surprised. I never actually said it was normal I said it was generally accepted as the norm, instead of accepting it get tell the people in power , but nobody does. People should do what they need to do. Does anyone have a genuine reason why a teacher can't do some private tuition work. I'm curious by the way not simply having a dig. " I'm going to suggest maybe talking to a few teachers and maybe getting an idea of their workload, hours, responsibilities and salaries. Maybe a moment of looking outward and considering others situations is required here.
Whilst here I'm doffing my bowler to Steve's response. Well said that man!!!
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"The whole point of food banks are to help those in greatest need. If most of the country is in need, the solution is not to open them to all. The solution is to remove those from power that have no concept of what it is like to live in the real world. Those who show no compassion for those who cannot feed their children. And those who are using the class system to justify their actions on a daily basis. And before anyone pipes up about the same whoever is in power crap. No it's not the case. Don't defend people who don't think twice about fucking you over on a daily basis. People need to wake up to what's going on around them, we are all people who deserve a good quality of living. Just because it's not affecting you yet, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. This, ^^^^ We accept the shite the government forces upon us, we accept food banks as normality, we let charities do the work the voted polititians are meant to do and we mope about complaining how shit the system is. But that's ALL we do !!! My 3 kids never got handouts or help, they left school at 16 and found jobs paying shit money, they bring up their kids regardless of extortionate nursery costs and they struggle , they take extra weekends jobs to make things work or just to get by, they've never been to a food bank but don't try and shame me with smart azz comments because I say a teacher shouldn't need a food bank. Do some private tuition work at weekends if your struggling. You get out of life what you put in. Yes circumstances change for people but that's life too. " I'm a teacher. To say that a teacher who is struggling should do private work at the weekend, good one. Many, many teachers are working at weekends, getting ready for the week ahead. Materials and marking work don't get done at the wave of a wand. I would say I have around 120 students this year across many different curriculum areas that I have to deliver meaningful and contextualised learning materials to. I then have to assess them. Each student has at least 20 assessment tasks. You then have to think about kids who want to have extra tuition at the weekends or during the week and that the parents can afford to pay for the tuition. At least 4 nights per week I have contact with students who need clarification with something related to their work or who may have MH issues and contact me because they trust me enough to share that with me. | |||
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"3 if you read further up they most certainly don't have it easy either.
Do you want teachers who aren’t 100% committed to be teaching your kids? Do you want teachers who are more bothered about their next meal than the education of the future of this country?
Not sure what this has to do with them doing private tuition work. Even 2 hours a week tuition could probably provide food for 3-4 days.
When my daughter was struggling with dyslexia a teacher neighbour worked with her for 1 hour a week at £20 , the neighbour both found the time and never visited food banks.
"The key word there was “When”. How long ago was that? Have teachers wages increased in line with inflation? Just because you can give one example of a teacher not struggling doesn’t change the fact many are struggling now. | |||
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"The whole point of food banks are to help those in greatest need. If most of the country is in need, the solution is not to open them to all. The solution is to remove those from power that have no concept of what it is like to live in the real world. Those who show no compassion for those who cannot feed their children. And those who are using the class system to justify their actions on a daily basis. And before anyone pipes up about the same whoever is in power crap. No it's not the case. Don't defend people who don't think twice about fucking you over on a daily basis. People need to wake up to what's going on around them, we are all people who deserve a good quality of living. Just because it's not affecting you yet, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. This, ^^^^ We accept the shite the government forces upon us, we accept food banks as normality, we let charities do the work the voted polititians are meant to do and we mope about complaining how shit the system is. But that's ALL we do !!! My 3 kids never got handouts or help, they left school at 16 and found jobs paying shit money, they bring up their kids regardless of extortionate nursery costs and they struggle , they take extra weekends jobs to make things work or just to get by, they've never been to a food bank but don't try and shame me with smart azz comments because I say a teacher shouldn't need a food bank. Do some private tuition work at weekends if your struggling. You get out of life what you put in. Yes circumstances change for people but that's life too. I'm a teacher. To say that a teacher who is struggling should do private work at the weekend, good one. Many, many teachers are working at weekends, getting ready for the week ahead. Materials and marking work don't get done at the wave of a wand. I would say I have around 120 students this year across many different curriculum areas that I have to deliver meaningful and contextualised learning materials to. I then have to assess them. Each student has at least 20 assessment tasks. You then have to think about kids who want to have extra tuition at the weekends or during the week and that the parents can afford to pay for the tuition. At least 4 nights per week I have contact with students who need clarification with something related to their work or who may have MH issues and contact me because they trust me enough to share that with me. " Yet here you are finding the time to converse on Fab .
You can't complain about your hours and then in the same paragraph say your an unpaid Councillor for students outwith school time. I get it's part of the dedication you may have to your students and your job but if that means you need a food bank to supplement your shopping then you have your priorities wrong. | |||
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"The whole point of food banks are to help those in greatest need. If most of the country is in need, the solution is not to open them to all. The solution is to remove those from power that have no concept of what it is like to live in the real world. Those who show no compassion for those who cannot feed their children. And those who are using the class system to justify their actions on a daily basis. And before anyone pipes up about the same whoever is in power crap. No it's not the case. Don't defend people who don't think twice about fucking you over on a daily basis. People need to wake up to what's going on around them, we are all people who deserve a good quality of living. Just because it's not affecting you yet, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. This, ^^^^ We accept the shite the government forces upon us, we accept food banks as normality, we let charities do the work the voted polititians are meant to do and we mope about complaining how shit the system is. But that's ALL we do !!! My 3 kids never got handouts or help, they left school at 16 and found jobs paying shit money, they bring up their kids regardless of extortionate nursery costs and they struggle , they take extra weekends jobs to make things work or just to get by, they've never been to a food bank but don't try and shame me with smart azz comments because I say a teacher shouldn't need a food bank. Do some private tuition work at weekends if your struggling. You get out of life what you put in. Yes circumstances change for people but that's life too. I'm a teacher. To say that a teacher who is struggling should do private work at the weekend, good one. Many, many teachers are working at weekends, getting ready for the week ahead. Materials and marking work don't get done at the wave of a wand. I would say I have around 120 students this year across many different curriculum areas that I have to deliver meaningful and contextualised learning materials to. I then have to assess them. Each student has at least 20 assessment tasks. You then have to think about kids who want to have extra tuition at the weekends or during the week and that the parents can afford to pay for the tuition. At least 4 nights per week I have contact with students who need clarification with something related to their work or who may have MH issues and contact me because they trust me enough to share that with me. Yet here you are finding the time to converse on Fab .
You can't complain about your hours and then in the same paragraph say your an unpaid Councillor for students outwith school time. I get it's part of the dedication you may have to your students and your job but if that means you need a food bank to supplement your shopping then you have your priorities wrong. "Now teachers can’t spend their free time how they please? Jesus Christ man. | |||
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"3 if you read further up they most certainly don't have it easy either.
Do you want teachers who aren’t 100% committed to be teaching your kids? Do you want teachers who are more bothered about their next meal than the education of the future of this country?
Not sure what this has to do with them doing private tuition work. Even 2 hours a week tuition could probably provide food for 3-4 days.
When my daughter was struggling with dyslexia a teacher neighbour worked with her for 1 hour a week at £20 , the neighbour both found the time and never visited food banks.
The key word there was “When”. How long ago was that? Have teachers wages increased in line with inflation?
Just because you can give one example of a teacher not struggling doesn’t change the fact many are struggling now. "I don't know anybody that there wages reflect inflation. It's irrelevant how long ago she received that extra hour as time is still the same today . 24 hours in a day. I agree some rare circumstances may be present to stop teachers doing extra but probably not most. | |||
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"3 if you read further up they most certainly don't have it easy either.
Do you want teachers who aren’t 100% committed to be teaching your kids? Do you want teachers who are more bothered about their next meal than the education of the future of this country?
Not sure what this has to do with them doing private tuition work. Even 2 hours a week tuition could probably provide food for 3-4 days.
When my daughter was struggling with dyslexia a teacher neighbour worked with her for 1 hour a week at £20 , the neighbour both found the time and never visited food banks.
The key word there was “When”. How long ago was that? Have teachers wages increased in line with inflation?
Just because you can give one example of a teacher not struggling doesn’t change the fact many are struggling now.
I don't know anybody that there wages reflect inflation.
It's irrelevant how long ago she received that extra hour as time is still the same today . 24 hours in a day.
I agree some rare circumstances may be present to stop teachers doing extra but probably not most. "I give up. | |||
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"The whole point of food banks are to help those in greatest need. If most of the country is in need, the solution is not to open them to all. The solution is to remove those from power that have no concept of what it is like to live in the real world. Those who show no compassion for those who cannot feed their children. And those who are using the class system to justify their actions on a daily basis. And before anyone pipes up about the same whoever is in power crap. No it's not the case. Don't defend people who don't think twice about fucking you over on a daily basis. People need to wake up to what's going on around them, we are all people who deserve a good quality of living. Just because it's not affecting you yet, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. This, ^^^^ We accept the shite the government forces upon us, we accept food banks as normality, we let charities do the work the voted polititians are meant to do and we mope about complaining how shit the system is. But that's ALL we do !!! My 3 kids never got handouts or help, they left school at 16 and found jobs paying shit money, they bring up their kids regardless of extortionate nursery costs and they struggle , they take extra weekends jobs to make things work or just to get by, they've never been to a food bank but don't try and shame me with smart azz comments because I say a teacher shouldn't need a food bank. Do some private tuition work at weekends if your struggling. You get out of life what you put in. Yes circumstances change for people but that's life too. I'm a teacher. To say that a teacher who is struggling should do private work at the weekend, good one. Many, many teachers are working at weekends, getting ready for the week ahead. Materials and marking work don't get done at the wave of a wand. I would say I have around 120 students this year across many different curriculum areas that I have to deliver meaningful and contextualised learning materials to. I then have to assess them. Each student has at least 20 assessment tasks. You then have to think about kids who want to have extra tuition at the weekends or during the week and that the parents can afford to pay for the tuition. At least 4 nights per week I have contact with students who need clarification with something related to their work or who may have MH issues and contact me because they trust me enough to share that with me. Yet here you are finding the time to converse on Fab .
You can't complain about your hours and then in the same paragraph say your an unpaid Councillor for students outwith school time. I get it's part of the dedication you may have to your students and your job but if that means you need a food bank to supplement your shopping then you have your priorities wrong.
Now teachers can’t spend their free time how they please? Jesus Christ man."Well change career. Nobody forces you to stay. If its not working, change it but don't get angry with others about it because you have no free time. That's your choice bud. | |||
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"Reports that teachers are having to use foodbanks. Won't we all be using them soon?. Is it time to open them to all and not just the poor? wonder why a teacher or a nurse makes headlines when most the people who work and use them are people on minimum wage " See my first post. | |||
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"Reports that teachers are having to use foodbanks. Won't we all be using them soon?. Is it time to open them to all and not just the poor? wonder why a teacher or a nurse makes headlines when most the people who work and use them are people on minimum wage See my first post. "yes I agree with you if teachers need foodbsnks it’s because they have over stretched themselves not because there poor | |||
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"Reports that teachers are having to use foodbanks. Won't we all be using them soon?. Is it time to open them to all and not just the poor? Sry who said teachers are poor. ? "Well if you look at starting salaries and average salaries and then compare to the rise in cost of living it is not hard to see why some Might be struggling. Might jot be technically “poor” - depends on definition - but some might well be hard up. | |||
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"The whole point of food banks are to help those in greatest need. If most of the country is in need, the solution is not to open them to all. The solution is to remove those from power that have no concept of what it is like to live in the real world. Those who show no compassion for those who cannot feed their children. And those who are using the class system to justify their actions on a daily basis. And before anyone pipes up about the same whoever is in power crap. No it's not the case. Don't defend people who don't think twice about fucking you over on a daily basis. People need to wake up to what's going on around them, we are all people who deserve a good quality of living. Just because it's not affecting you yet, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. This, ^^^^ We accept the shite the government forces upon us, we accept food banks as normality, we let charities do the work the voted polititians are meant to do and we mope about complaining how shit the system is. But that's ALL we do !!! My 3 kids never got handouts or help, they left school at 16 and found jobs paying shit money, they bring up their kids regardless of extortionate nursery costs and they struggle , they take extra weekends jobs to make things work or just to get by, they've never been to a food bank but don't try and shame me with smart azz comments because I say a teacher shouldn't need a food bank. Do some private tuition work at weekends if your struggling. You get out of life what you put in. Yes circumstances change for people but that's life too. I'm a teacher. To say that a teacher who is struggling should do private work at the weekend, good one. Many, many teachers are working at weekends, getting ready for the week ahead. Materials and marking work don't get done at the wave of a wand. I would say I have around 120 students this year across many different curriculum areas that I have to deliver meaningful and contextualised learning materials to. I then have to assess them. Each student has at least 20 assessment tasks. You then have to think about kids who want to have extra tuition at the weekends or during the week and that the parents can afford to pay for the tuition. At least 4 nights per week I have contact with students who need clarification with something related to their work or who may have MH issues and contact me because they trust me enough to share that with me. Yet here you are finding the time to converse on Fab .
You can't complain about your hours and then in the same paragraph say your an unpaid Councillor for students outwith school time. I get it's part of the dedication you may have to your students and your job but if that means you need a food bank to supplement your shopping then you have your priorities wrong.
Now teachers can’t spend their free time how they please? Jesus Christ man.
Well change career. Nobody forces you to stay. If its not working, change it but don't get angry with others about it because you have no free time. That's your choice bud.
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"Reports that teachers are having to use foodbanks. Won't we all be using them soon?. Is it time to open them to all and not just the poor?" Think you'll find people from all walks of life in them. Nurses, care workers and anyone else where fuel prices, rent and other living expenses don't meet monthly income. | |||
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"The whole point of food banks are to help those in greatest need. If most of the country is in need, the solution is not to open them to all. The solution is to remove those from power that have no concept of what it is like to live in the real world. Those who show no compassion for those who cannot feed their children. And those who are using the class system to justify their actions on a daily basis. And before anyone pipes up about the same whoever is in power crap. No it's not the case. Don't defend people who don't think twice about fucking you over on a daily basis. People need to wake up to what's going on around them, we are all people who deserve a good quality of living. Just because it's not affecting you yet, doesn't mean it doesn't exist." Precisely this. Food banks should only really be needed for those who find themselves in unexpected extreme hardship. Not a routine measure for those on low to middling wages. The average Uk wage is near 27 to 30k, many teachers will be in this bracket - while this should by no means be poor - general inflation, low wage rises in past decade, fuel and housing costs increases have made such a salary not that much these days. That was what I earnt in one of first post grad jobs over 20 years ago. It was considered a very good wage back then. Since then housing and general coats of living have gone up 300% maybe more in some cases. So quite easy to see how someone on low wages with a family could need help at the moment. As a society we need to do something about it. The current Government won’t give a shit. The ERG type policies are designed to push vast majority into compliant poverty. By the end of this decade families on 50k will be using food banks. Get what you vote for I guess. | |||
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"The whole point of food banks are to help those in greatest need. If most of the country is in need, the solution is not to open them to all. The solution is to remove those from power that have no concept of what it is like to live in the real world. Those who show no compassion for those who cannot feed their children. And those who are using the class system to justify their actions on a daily basis. And before anyone pipes up about the same whoever is in power crap. No it's not the case. Don't defend people who don't think twice about fucking you over on a daily basis. People need to wake up to what's going on around them, we are all people who deserve a good quality of living. Just because it's not affecting you yet, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. This, ^^^^ We accept the shite the government forces upon us, we accept food banks as normality, we let charities do the work the voted polititians are meant to do and we mope about complaining how shit the system is. But that's ALL we do !!! My 3 kids never got handouts or help, they left school at 16 and found jobs paying shit money, they bring up their kids regardless of extortionate nursery costs and they struggle , they take extra weekends jobs to make things work or just to get by, they've never been to a food bank but don't try and shame me with smart azz comments because I say a teacher shouldn't need a food bank. Do some private tuition work at weekends if your struggling. You get out of life what you put in. Yes circumstances change for people but that's life too. I'm a teacher. To say that a teacher who is struggling should do private work at the weekend, good one. Many, many teachers are working at weekends, getting ready for the week ahead. Materials and marking work don't get done at the wave of a wand. I would say I have around 120 students this year across many different curriculum areas that I have to deliver meaningful and contextualised learning materials to. I then have to assess them. Each student has at least 20 assessment tasks. You then have to think about kids who want to have extra tuition at the weekends or during the week and that the parents can afford to pay for the tuition. At least 4 nights per week I have contact with students who need clarification with something related to their work or who may have MH issues and contact me because they trust me enough to share that with me. Yet here you are finding the time to converse on Fab .
You can't complain about your hours and then in the same paragraph say your an unpaid Councillor for students outwith school time. I get it's part of the dedication you may have to your students and your job but if that means you need a food bank to supplement your shopping then you have your priorities wrong.
Now teachers can’t spend their free time how they please? Jesus Christ man.
Well change career. Nobody forces you to stay. If its not working, change it but don't get angry with others about it because you have no free time. That's your choice bud.
I’m not a teacher. I work a job that requires no previous training or experience and no real skill other than being able to swing a hammer and use a wrench. I earn more than a lot of teachers but that doesn’t mean all teachers should quit and do what I do.
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"The whole point of food banks are to help those in greatest need. If most of the country is in need, the solution is not to open them to all. The solution is to remove those from power that have no concept of what it is like to live in the real world. Those who show no compassion for those who cannot feed their children. And those who are using the class system to justify their actions on a daily basis. And before anyone pipes up about the same whoever is in power crap. No it's not the case. Don't defend people who don't think twice about fucking you over on a daily basis. People need to wake up to what's going on around them, we are all people who deserve a good quality of living. Just because it's not affecting you yet, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. This, ^^^^ We accept the shite the government forces upon us, we accept food banks as normality, we let charities do the work the voted polititians are meant to do and we mope about complaining how shit the system is. But that's ALL we do !!! My 3 kids never got handouts or help, they left school at 16 and found jobs paying shit money, they bring up their kids regardless of extortionate nursery costs and they struggle , they take extra weekends jobs to make things work or just to get by, they've never been to a food bank but don't try and shame me with smart azz comments because I say a teacher shouldn't need a food bank. Do some private tuition work at weekends if your struggling. You get out of life what you put in. Yes circumstances change for people but that's life too. I'm a teacher. To say that a teacher who is struggling should do private work at the weekend, good one. Many, many teachers are working at weekends, getting ready for the week ahead. Materials and marking work don't get done at the wave of a wand. I would say I have around 120 students this year across many different curriculum areas that I have to deliver meaningful and contextualised learning materials to. I then have to assess them. Each student has at least 20 assessment tasks. You then have to think about kids who want to have extra tuition at the weekends or during the week and that the parents can afford to pay for the tuition. At least 4 nights per week I have contact with students who need clarification with something related to their work or who may have MH issues and contact me because they trust me enough to share that with me. Yet here you are finding the time to converse on Fab .
You can't complain about your hours and then in the same paragraph say your an unpaid Councillor for students outwith school time. I get it's part of the dedication you may have to your students and your job but if that means you need a food bank to supplement your shopping then you have your priorities wrong. "The first thing you should note is I am on holiday. Secondly I didn't mention foodbanks or my need to use them. I wasn't complaining about my working hours, I was trying to highlight it's not always possible to take paid work at weekends or during the week. I do the things I do because I want to and I care about my students. Some of them have absolutely no one to turn to apart from me or my colleagues. If this thread mentioned nurses or paramedics at the start you probably wouldn't have said they need to find additional work on their days off. I don't know what your job is or what it entails but I certainly wouldn't tell you to get a second or third job so you could live comfortably. I hear all too often that teachers have it easy and they are well paid but when I've said to those people go and do it then, their reply nearly always is I couldn't do it or out up with the students. | |||
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"Reports that teachers are having to use foodbanks. Won't we all be using them soon?. Is it time to open them to all and not just the poor? Sry who said teachers are poor. ?
I think it’s based on the idea foodbanks are used by those that are poor. And teachers are using them?
There maybe using them because fueling their cars and paying a mortgage is costing more , sell the car or Car share, downsize the house or taken in a lodger , job done. "So the single young teacher paying for their one bedroom rural cottage/flat who work in a rural school can get rid of their car or rent a room out?? Hmm maybe the lodger can sleep in the bath ?? Teachings a great profession if either you are senior or they are part of a couple who both work. As a young person they cannot afford much in the way of property so downsizing isn’t an option. ( ex Governor here). Due to the vested interests of the richer elements of society in keeping property prices high the old days of one parent in a house working are disappearing fast. | |||
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"Reports that teachers are having to use foodbanks. Won't we all be using them soon?. Is it time to open them to all and not just the poor? Sry who said teachers are poor. ?
I think it’s based on the idea foodbanks are used by those that are poor. And teachers are using them?
There maybe using them because fueling their cars and paying a mortgage is costing more , sell the car or Car share, downsize the house or taken in a lodger , job done.
Or we could pay teachers more to educate the country's children?
There’s no magic money tree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"You do realise that money is not real, it is an artificial construct mainly residing on computers. It is the control kf allocation and concentration that’s the only real dimension. The amount of money and who has it could double tomorrow. So in fact there is just that a magic money tree. The consequence are inflation risks, asset price fluctuation, changes in equality and inflation. The crux here is people’s relative ability to combat inflation and the buffer they have between income and outgoings to be able to balance budgets. The lower the disposable income the greater the challenge. Someone taking home 15k a month is not going to bat an eyelid about inflation being at 10% and fuel costs doubling. Someone on 1,500 a month is going to shit a brick and also probably have far fewer options to mitigate the impact. THAT is the issue many people are facing. People who are insulated or think themselves above the wave should have more compassion for those drowning. First they came for the xxxxxx and all that. | |||
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" First they came for the xxxx and all that. " Castlemaine lager? | |||
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"The whole point of food banks are to help those in greatest need. If most of the country is in need, the solution is not to open them to all. The solution is to remove those from power that have no concept of what it is like to live in the real world. Those who show no compassion for those who cannot feed their children. And those who are using the class system to justify their actions on a daily basis. And before anyone pipes up about the same whoever is in power crap. No it's not the case. Don't defend people who don't think twice about fucking you over on a daily basis. People need to wake up to what's going on around them, we are all people who deserve a good quality of living. Just because it's not affecting you yet, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. This, ^^^^ We accept the shite the government forces upon us, we accept food banks as normality, we let charities do the work the voted polititians are meant to do and we mope about complaining how shit the system is. But that's ALL we do !!! My 3 kids never got handouts or help, they left school at 16 and found jobs paying shit money, they bring up their kids regardless of extortionate nursery costs and they struggle , they take extra weekends jobs to make things work or just to get by, they've never been to a food bank but don't try and shame me with smart azz comments because I say a teacher shouldn't need a food bank. Do some private tuition work at weekends if your struggling. You get out of life what you put in. Yes circumstances change for people but that's life too. I'm a teacher. To say that a teacher who is struggling should do private work at the weekend, good one. Many, many teachers are working at weekends, getting ready for the week ahead. Materials and marking work don't get done at the wave of a wand. I would say I have around 120 students this year across many different curriculum areas that I have to deliver meaningful and contextualised learning materials to. I then have to assess them. Each student has at least 20 assessment tasks. You then have to think about kids who want to have extra tuition at the weekends or during the week and that the parents can afford to pay for the tuition. At least 4 nights per week I have contact with students who need clarification with something related to their work or who may have MH issues and contact me because they trust me enough to share that with me. Yet here you are finding the time to converse on Fab .
You can't complain about your hours and then in the same paragraph say your an unpaid Councillor for students outwith school time. I get it's part of the dedication you may have to your students and your job but if that means you need a food bank to supplement your shopping then you have your priorities wrong. "FFS man, stop digging. You've nearly worn that spade out to the handle. You have no idea. No understanding. No consideration. Unbelievable attitude. I'm rarely shocked, so we'll done for that. Winston | |||
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"The whole point of food banks are to help those in greatest need. If most of the country is in need, the solution is not to open them to all. The solution is to remove those from power that have no concept of what it is like to live in the real world. Those who show no compassion for those who cannot feed their children. And those who are using the class system to justify their actions on a daily basis. And before anyone pipes up about the same whoever is in power crap. No it's not the case. Don't defend people who don't think twice about fucking you over on a daily basis. People need to wake up to what's going on around them, we are all people who deserve a good quality of living. Just because it's not affecting you yet, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. This, ^^^^ We accept the shite the government forces upon us, we accept food banks as normality, we let charities do the work the voted polititians are meant to do and we mope about complaining how shit the system is. But that's ALL we do !!! My 3 kids never got handouts or help, they left school at 16 and found jobs paying shit money, they bring up their kids regardless of extortionate nursery costs and they struggle , they take extra weekends jobs to make things work or just to get by, they've never been to a food bank but don't try and shame me with smart azz comments because I say a teacher shouldn't need a food bank. Do some private tuition work at weekends if your struggling. You get out of life what you put in. Yes circumstances change for people but that's life too. I'm a teacher. To say that a teacher who is struggling should do private work at the weekend, good one. Many, many teachers are working at weekends, getting ready for the week ahead. Materials and marking work don't get done at the wave of a wand. I would say I have around 120 students this year across many different curriculum areas that I have to deliver meaningful and contextualised learning materials to. I then have to assess them. Each student has at least 20 assessment tasks. You then have to think about kids who want to have extra tuition at the weekends or during the week and that the parents can afford to pay for the tuition. At least 4 nights per week I have contact with students who need clarification with something related to their work or who may have MH issues and contact me because they trust me enough to share that with me. Yet here you are finding the time to converse on Fab .
You can't complain about your hours and then in the same paragraph say your an unpaid Councillor for students outwith school time. I get it's part of the dedication you may have to your students and your job but if that means you need a food bank to supplement your shopping then you have your priorities wrong.
Now teachers can’t spend their free time how they please? Jesus Christ man.
Well change career. Nobody forces you to stay. If its not working, change it but don't get angry with others about it because you have no free time. That's your choice bud.
I’m not a teacher. I work a job that requires no previous training or experience and no real skill other than being able to swing a hammer and use a wrench. I earn more than a lot of teachers but that doesn’t mean all teachers should quit and do what I do.
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" but don't try and shame me with smart azz comments because I say a teacher shouldn't need a food bank. " to be fair you didn't say 'a teacher shouldn't need a food bank'. you made some 'smart azz comments' as you put it, from a holier than thou standpoint ranting about what they should do ontop of the teaching job they have. And then you did it all over again when you said, 'Do some private tuition work at weekends if your struggling'. It certainly doesn't read well as a couple of other posters have already mentioned. | |||
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"Pretty sure the report by the NASUWT said 1% have used food banks. This is smokescreening the biggest issue in teaching at the moment: teachers are leaving the profession and more want out than ever before. There are very valid reasons why people are choosing other jobs over teaching." Should headmasters be allowed to bring back the cane? | |||
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"Reports that teachers are having to use foodbanks. Won't we all be using them soon?. Is it time to open them to all and not just the poor? Sry who said teachers are poor. ?
I think it’s based on the idea foodbanks are used by those that are poor. And teachers are using them?
There maybe using them because fueling their cars and paying a mortgage is costing more , sell the car or Car share, downsize the house or taken in a lodger , job done.
So the single young teacher paying for their one bedroom rural cottage/flat who work in a rural school can get rid of their car or rent a room out?? Hmm maybe the lodger can sleep in the bath ??
Teachings a great profession if either you are senior or they are part of a couple who both work. As a young person they cannot afford much in the way of property so downsizing isn’t an option. ( ex Governor here).
Due to the vested interests of the richer elements of society in keeping property prices high the old days of one parent in a house working are disappearing fast.
"so if a teacher can’t cope what about the poor cleaners or teaching assistant and the kitchen staff in that school who are on know where near the teachers wage why do we go mental when it’s a teacher or nurse ? But accept it’s ok for anyone else | |||
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"Pretty sure the report by the NASUWT said 1% have used food banks. This is smokescreening the biggest issue in teaching at the moment: teachers are leaving the profession and more want out than ever before. There are very valid reasons why people are choosing other jobs over teaching. Should headmasters be allowed to bring back the cane?" no they shouldn’t my fingers are fucked through the cane | |||
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"Reports that teachers are having to use foodbanks. Won't we all be using them soon?. Is it time to open them to all and not just the poor? Sry who said teachers are poor. ?
I think it’s based on the idea foodbanks are used by those that are poor. And teachers are using them?
There maybe using them because fueling their cars and paying a mortgage is costing more , sell the car or Car share, downsize the house or taken in a lodger , job done.
So the single young teacher paying for their one bedroom rural cottage/flat who work in a rural school can get rid of their car or rent a room out?? Hmm maybe the lodger can sleep in the bath ??
Teachings a great profession if either you are senior or they are part of a couple who both work. As a young person they cannot afford much in the way of property so downsizing isn’t an option. ( ex Governor here).
Due to the vested interests of the richer elements of society in keeping property prices high the old days of one parent in a house working are disappearing fast.
so if a teacher can’t cope what about the poor cleaners or teaching assistant and the kitchen staff in that school who are on know where near the teachers wage why do we go mental when it’s a teacher or nurse ? But accept it’s ok for anyone else "I don't think anyone should accept that people aren't paid fairly. We shouldn't have the level of poverty we have in our country. Teachers and nurses are always in the media as everyone loves to bash them and everyone believes they know what the job involves. It is exhausting and demoralising. | |||
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"Just because it's not affecting you yet, doesn't mean it doesn't exist." and when it does we get the classic: 'I never thought leopards would eat MY face,' sobs woman who voted for the Leopards Eating People's Faces Party' | |||
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"Pretty sure the report by the NASUWT said 1% have used food banks. This is smokescreening the biggest issue in teaching at the moment: teachers are leaving the profession and more want out than ever before. There are very valid reasons why people are choosing other jobs over teaching. Should headmasters be allowed to bring back the cane?" No, I was belted on a regular basis. Violence is not the answer. | |||
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"Reports that teachers are having to use foodbanks. Won't we all be using them soon?. Is it time to open them to all and not just the poor? Sry who said teachers are poor. ?
I think it’s based on the idea foodbanks are used by those that are poor. And teachers are using them?
There maybe using them because fueling their cars and paying a mortgage is costing more , sell the car or Car share, downsize the house or taken in a lodger , job done.
So the single young teacher paying for their one bedroom rural cottage/flat who work in a rural school can get rid of their car or rent a room out?? Hmm maybe the lodger can sleep in the bath ??
Teachings a great profession if either you are senior or they are part of a couple who both work. As a young person they cannot afford much in the way of property so downsizing isn’t an option. ( ex Governor here).
Due to the vested interests of the richer elements of society in keeping property prices high the old days of one parent in a house working are disappearing fast.
so if a teacher can’t cope what about the poor cleaners or teaching assistant and the kitchen staff in that school who are on know where near the teachers wage why do we go mental when it’s a teacher or nurse ? But accept it’s ok for anyone else "Schools couldn't operate if it wasn't for all the people you have mentioned. And they are usually paid minimum wage or just above it. | |||
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"Reports that teachers are having to use foodbanks. Won't we all be using them soon?. Is it time to open them to all and not just the poor? Sry who said teachers are poor. ?
I think it’s based on the idea foodbanks are used by those that are poor. And teachers are using them?
There maybe using them because fueling their cars and paying a mortgage is costing more , sell the car or Car share, downsize the house or taken in a lodger , job done.
So the single young teacher paying for their one bedroom rural cottage/flat who work in a rural school can get rid of their car or rent a room out?? Hmm maybe the lodger can sleep in the bath ??
Teachings a great profession if either you are senior or they are part of a couple who both work. As a young person they cannot afford much in the way of property so downsizing isn’t an option. ( ex Governor here).
Due to the vested interests of the richer elements of society in keeping property prices high the old days of one parent in a house working are disappearing fast.
so if a teacher can’t cope what about the poor cleaners or teaching assistant and the kitchen staff in that school who are on know where near the teachers wage why do we go mental when it’s a teacher or nurse ? But accept it’s ok for anyone else "No you will have seen me on these getting irate about carers pay as it is abysmal for what they do. Should I list all the professions every time? | |||
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"In 2021 it was reported that one in five school was running a Food Bank due to the support their students needed. And now the cost of living has risen again. What kind of first world country has such a need of food banks for its citizens? The Trussell Trust says the need for food banks has increased by 123% in five years. What is so wrong that millions of kids are living below the poverty line and going hungry every day? " Sadly, the people who vote Tory simply do not care about poor people or about kids going hungry. | |||
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"Reports that teachers are having to use foodbanks. Won't we all be using them soon?. Is it time to open them to all and not just the poor? Sry who said teachers are poor. ?
I think it’s based on the idea foodbanks are used by those that are poor. And teachers are using them?
There maybe using them because fueling their cars and paying a mortgage is costing more , sell the car or Car share, downsize the house or taken in a lodger , job done.
So the single young teacher paying for their one bedroom rural cottage/flat who work in a rural school can get rid of their car or rent a room out?? Hmm maybe the lodger can sleep in the bath ??
Teachings a great profession if either you are senior or they are part of a couple who both work. As a young person they cannot afford much in the way of property so downsizing isn’t an option. ( ex Governor here).
Due to the vested interests of the richer elements of society in keeping property prices high the old days of one parent in a house working are disappearing fast.
so if a teacher can’t cope what about the poor cleaners or teaching assistant and the kitchen staff in that school who are on know where near the teachers wage why do we go mental when it’s a teacher or nurse ? But accept it’s ok for anyone else "I'm not going mental nor accepting it for anyone else. The truth is teachers are paid ok, unless the 4 websites I visited so far on teachers salaries are telling porkies. It's probably within most people's description of a slightly above average affordable living wage. | |||
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"I see two angles to the teachers headline 1) teachers need food banks and because we hold teachers high regard that's now disgusting. 2) teachers need foodbanks as as they are typically seen as being paid decent salaries, that shows how prevalent their use is and that's disgusting. " The NASUWT survey was on pay and conditions so number 1 is correct. It is very expensive to train as a teacher now - most new teachers are saddled with thousands of pounds worth of debt and opt out of the pension from the first year as a result. Teachers are paid on different scales according to whether or not they are London based. The pay is also performance related and therefore based on a specific (and ambitious) set of targets including GCSE or SAT results. Teachers in the South East of England are reported to struggle the most. There have also been significant pay freezes over the years and this remains the case. | |||
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"Reports that teachers are having to use foodbanks. Won't we all be using them soon?. Is it time to open them to all and not just the poor? Sry who said teachers are poor. ?
I think it’s based on the idea foodbanks are used by those that are poor. And teachers are using them?
There maybe using them because fueling their cars and paying a mortgage is costing more , sell the car or Car share, downsize the house or taken in a lodger , job done.
So the single young teacher paying for their one bedroom rural cottage/flat who work in a rural school can get rid of their car or rent a room out?? Hmm maybe the lodger can sleep in the bath ??
Teachings a great profession if either you are senior or they are part of a couple who both work. As a young person they cannot afford much in the way of property so downsizing isn’t an option. ( ex Governor here).
Due to the vested interests of the richer elements of society in keeping property prices high the old days of one parent in a house working are disappearing fast.
so if a teacher can’t cope what about the poor cleaners or teaching assistant and the kitchen staff in that school who are on know where near the teachers wage why do we go mental when it’s a teacher or nurse ? But accept it’s ok for anyone else
I'm not going mental nor accepting it for anyone else. The truth is teachers are paid ok, unless the 4 websites I visited so far on teachers salaries are telling porkies. It's probably within most people's description of a slightly above average affordable living wage. "It probably is slightly above average wage but just slightly. I am still paying for the cost of training to be a teacher, SL, and I will be for a long time yet. I also have to pay for the privilege of working as a teacher and adhere to the standards set out to teach. | |||
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"Tory MP Michael Fabricant is reported as saying that during the lockdown some teachers were drinking alcohol in their staff rooms. He does not sound the sharpest but why would he say such a thing. And this is all over the news..." because his esteemed leader was fined doing the same. Breaking your own law is fine if you can find others who are doing the same | |||
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"Reports that teachers are having to use foodbanks. Won't we all be using them soon?. Is it time to open them to all and not just the poor? Sry who said teachers are poor. ?
I think it’s based on the idea foodbanks are used by those that are poor. And teachers are using them?
There maybe using them because fueling their cars and paying a mortgage is costing more , sell the car or Car share, downsize the house or taken in a lodger , job done.
So the single young teacher paying for their one bedroom rural cottage/flat who work in a rural school can get rid of their car or rent a room out?? Hmm maybe the lodger can sleep in the bath ??
Teachings a great profession if either you are senior or they are part of a couple who both work. As a young person they cannot afford much in the way of property so downsizing isn’t an option. ( ex Governor here).
Due to the vested interests of the richer elements of society in keeping property prices high the old days of one parent in a house working are disappearing fast.
so if a teacher can’t cope what about the poor cleaners or teaching assistant and the kitchen staff in that school who are on know where near the teachers wage why do we go mental when it’s a teacher or nurse ? But accept it’s ok for anyone else
I'm not going mental nor accepting it for anyone else. The truth is teachers are paid ok, unless the 4 websites I visited so far on teachers salaries are telling porkies. It's probably within most people's description of a slightly above average affordable living wage.
It probably is slightly above average wage but just slightly. I am still paying for the cost of training to be a teacher, SL, and I will be for a long time yet. I also have to pay for the privilege of working as a teacher and adhere to the standards set out to teach. "like every other graduate then | |||
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"Reports that teachers are having to use foodbanks. Won't we all be using them soon?. Is it time to open them to all and not just the poor? Sry who said teachers are poor. ?
I think it’s based on the idea foodbanks are used by those that are poor. And teachers are using them?
There maybe using them because fueling their cars and paying a mortgage is costing more , sell the car or Car share, downsize the house or taken in a lodger , job done.
So the single young teacher paying for their one bedroom rural cottage/flat who work in a rural school can get rid of their car or rent a room out?? Hmm maybe the lodger can sleep in the bath ??
Teachings a great profession if either you are senior or they are part of a couple who both work. As a young person they cannot afford much in the way of property so downsizing isn’t an option. ( ex Governor here).
Due to the vested interests of the richer elements of society in keeping property prices high the old days of one parent in a house working are disappearing fast.
so if a teacher can’t cope what about the poor cleaners or teaching assistant and the kitchen staff in that school who are on know where near the teachers wage why do we go mental when it’s a teacher or nurse ? But accept it’s ok for anyone else
I'm not going mental nor accepting it for anyone else. The truth is teachers are paid ok, unless the 4 websites I visited so far on teachers salaries are telling porkies. It's probably within most people's description of a slightly above average affordable living wage.
It probably is slightly above average wage but just slightly. I am still paying for the cost of training to be a teacher, SL, and I will be for a long time yet. I also have to pay for the privilege of working as a teacher and adhere to the standards set out to teach. "I really don't know why you keep telling me the things you have to go through as a teacher and expect me to feel differently, it's your career choice. Nobody forced you to pay those fees, or to study other or to go into a profession where there are certain Standards you must follow. I'm not trying to be cheeky with that but it's true, you could retrain in less than a year and have a new career with good earnings and have zero uni fees , also your not alone in your situation, there's loads of other careers that are the same. I'm not going to feel sorry for your position as you made those decisions when you left school. Same as I made my decision to leave school at 15 and work 7 days a week when I had to, forfeit some luxuries along the way and never ever claim a penny of hand outs. I see graduates come into my industry and are thick as mince and can't do my job even though the training courses are like 2 days or 3 days every couple of years. | |||
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"Reports that teachers are having to use foodbanks. Won't we all be using them soon?. Is it time to open them to all and not just the poor? Sry who said teachers are poor. ?
I think it’s based on the idea foodbanks are used by those that are poor. And teachers are using them?
There maybe using them because fueling their cars and paying a mortgage is costing more , sell the car or Car share, downsize the house or taken in a lodger , job done.
So the single young teacher paying for their one bedroom rural cottage/flat who work in a rural school can get rid of their car or rent a room out?? Hmm maybe the lodger can sleep in the bath ??
Teachings a great profession if either you are senior or they are part of a couple who both work. As a young person they cannot afford much in the way of property so downsizing isn’t an option. ( ex Governor here).
Due to the vested interests of the richer elements of society in keeping property prices high the old days of one parent in a house working are disappearing fast.
so if a teacher can’t cope what about the poor cleaners or teaching assistant and the kitchen staff in that school who are on know where near the teachers wage why do we go mental when it’s a teacher or nurse ? But accept it’s ok for anyone else
I'm not going mental nor accepting it for anyone else. The truth is teachers are paid ok, unless the 4 websites I visited so far on teachers salaries are telling porkies. It's probably within most people's description of a slightly above average affordable living wage.
It probably is slightly above average wage but just slightly. I am still paying for the cost of training to be a teacher, SL, and I will be for a long time yet. I also have to pay for the privilege of working as a teacher and adhere to the standards set out to teach.
I really don't know why you keep telling me the things you have to go through as a teacher and expect me to feel differently, it's your career choice. Nobody forced you to pay those fees, or to study other or to go into a profession where there are certain Standards you must follow. I'm not trying to be cheeky with that but it's true, you could retrain in less than a year and have a new career with good earnings and have zero uni fees , also your not alone in your situation, there's loads of other careers that are the same. I'm not going to feel sorry for your position as you made those decisions when you left school. Same as I made my decision to leave school at 15 and work 7 days a week when I had to, forfeit some luxuries along the way and never ever claim a penny of hand outs. I see graduates come into my industry and are thick as mince and can't do my job even though the training courses are like 2 days or 3 days every couple of years. "If only we could all be as perfect... | |||
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"Reports that teachers are having to use foodbanks. Won't we all be using them soon?. Is it time to open them to all and not just the poor? Sry who said teachers are poor. ?
I think it’s based on the idea foodbanks are used by those that are poor. And teachers are using them?
There maybe using them because fueling their cars and paying a mortgage is costing more , sell the car or Car share, downsize the house or taken in a lodger , job done.
So the single young teacher paying for their one bedroom rural cottage/flat who work in a rural school can get rid of their car or rent a room out?? Hmm maybe the lodger can sleep in the bath ??
Teachings a great profession if either you are senior or they are part of a couple who both work. As a young person they cannot afford much in the way of property so downsizing isn’t an option. ( ex Governor here).
Due to the vested interests of the richer elements of society in keeping property prices high the old days of one parent in a house working are disappearing fast.
so if a teacher can’t cope what about the poor cleaners or teaching assistant and the kitchen staff in that school who are on know where near the teachers wage why do we go mental when it’s a teacher or nurse ? But accept it’s ok for anyone else
I'm not going mental nor accepting it for anyone else. The truth is teachers are paid ok, unless the 4 websites I visited so far on teachers salaries are telling porkies. It's probably within most people's description of a slightly above average affordable living wage.
It probably is slightly above average wage but just slightly. I am still paying for the cost of training to be a teacher, SL, and I will be for a long time yet. I also have to pay for the privilege of working as a teacher and adhere to the standards set out to teach.
I really don't know why you keep telling me the things you have to go through as a teacher and expect me to feel differently, it's your career choice. Nobody forced you to pay those fees, or to study other or to go into a profession where there are certain Standards you must follow. I'm not trying to be cheeky with that but it's true, you could retrain in less than a year and have a new career with good earnings and have zero uni fees , also your not alone in your situation, there's loads of other careers that are the same. I'm not going to feel sorry for your position as you made those decisions when you left school. Same as I made my decision to leave school at 15 and work 7 days a week when I had to, forfeit some luxuries along the way and never ever claim a penny of hand outs. I see graduates come into my industry and are thick as mince and can't do my job even though the training courses are like 2 days or 3 days every couple of years. "My original point was about my colleagues and their finances, not about me. I then went on to say how it isn't easy for teachers to take on other jobs or tutor students at the weekend or during the week. Teaching isn't a 9-5, Monday to Friday job, there are too many variables that have an impact on additional employment. I have to pay these fees in order to do my job, just like nurses and those in other jobs. I would gladly pay my student loans again as the enabled me to studly and get away from exteremly manual jobs that paid very little. I do agree with you that some graduates aren't that good within their chose area of study but to say they are thick is pretty rude to say the least, they are still in the learning process. If I may be pedantic paragraphs, and a better use of full-stops, would have made your comments easier to read. And with that I'm out. | |||
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" there are too many variables that have an impact on additional employment. I would gladly pay my student loans again as the enabled me to studly and get away from exteremly manual jobs that paid very little. I do agree with you that some graduates aren't that good within their chose area of study If I may be pedantic paragraphs, and a better use of full-stops, would have made your comments easier to read. And with that I'm out. " Oh now if we're making pedantic comments about grammar, as a teacher perhaps you should proof read what you have posted before throwing stones in glass houses. I've simplified it for you to narrow down to the four mistakes you made in your last post. But hey I'm just a manual worker so there could be some others I've missed . Maybe you being a teacher could help me spot more.
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"Will we see Mr and Mrs Sunak queuing at the Food Bank ?" I just imagined a Waitrose style food bank haha | |||
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"Reports that teachers are having to use foodbanks. Won't we all be using them soon?. Is it time to open them to all and not just the poor? Sry who said teachers are poor. ?
I think it’s based on the idea foodbanks are used by those that are poor. And teachers are using them?
There maybe using them because fueling their cars and paying a mortgage is costing more , sell the car or Car share, downsize the house or taken in a lodger , job done.
Or we could pay teachers more to educate the country's children?
There’s no magic money tree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You do realise that money is not real, it is an artificial construct mainly residing on computers. It is the control kf allocation and concentration that’s the only real dimension. The amount of money and who has it could double tomorrow. So in fact there is just that a magic money tree. The consequence are inflation risks, asset price fluctuation, changes in equality and inflation.
The crux here is people’s relative ability to combat inflation and the buffer they have between income and outgoings to be able to balance budgets. The lower the disposable income the greater the challenge. Someone taking home 15k a month is not going to bat an eyelid about inflation being at 10% and fuel costs doubling. Someone on 1,500 a month is going to shit a brick and also probably have far fewer options to mitigate the impact.
THAT is the issue many people are facing. People who are insulated or think themselves above the wave should have more compassion for those drowning.
First they came for the xxxxxx and all that. "The joys of a fiat currency eh! | |||
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"There’s no magic money tree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You do realise that money is not real, it is an artificial construct mainly residing on computers. It is the control kf allocation and concentration that’s the only real dimension. The amount of money and who has it could double tomorrow. So in fact there is just that a magic money tree. The consequence are inflation risks, asset price fluctuation, changes in equality and inflation. The crux here is people’s relative ability to combat inflation and the buffer they have between income and outgoings to be able to balance budgets. The lower the disposable income the greater the challenge. Someone taking home 15k a month is not going to bat an eyelid about inflation being at 10% and fuel costs doubling. Someone on 1,500 a month is going to shit a brick and also probably have far fewer options to mitigate the impact. THAT is the issue many people are facing. People who are insulated or think themselves above the wave should have more compassion for those drowning. First they came for the xxxxxx and all that. " Yes lmao I do know that. I actually don’t believe that in an ideal world, money should exist. The magic money tree comment was ironic. Because lots of Tory supporters consistently said that in the run up to the last election about other manifestos. | |||
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"Reports that teachers are having to use foodbanks. Won't we all be using them soon?. Is it time to open them to all and not just the poor? Sry who said teachers are poor. ?
I think it’s based on the idea foodbanks are used by those that are poor. And teachers are using them?
There maybe using them because fueling their cars and paying a mortgage is costing more , sell the car or Car share, downsize the house or taken in a lodger , job done.
Or we could pay teachers more to educate the country's children?"Steady on old chap, don’t suggest ridiculous things like, you’ll have the Tax Payers Alliance and their super rich masters in the Tufton St Mafia spitting feathers! | |||
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