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"I'm deeply suspicious of anyone who would actually go out of their way to come and live in this country" It does baffle me why anyone from a warm country would want to come here but if look through nearly all our family trees .someone in the past came here from somewhere else . | |||
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"I think it’s a brilliant idea, this country is on its knees, we can not continue housing illegals at the rate in which we are. I have just reached down, and picked up my tin hat for protection "Maybe pick up a book and do some reading instead. You don’t seem to have many facts at your disposal. | |||
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"I don't get how they can argue that 39 quid a week is expensive, so swap it for a scheme that is going to cost 10 times more than we already have! I find it barbaric, and to send them to a country that has an horrific human rights record is just evil! Someones going to get rich off this, wonder which Tory chum that will be!" Don't know about the 39 quid But your correct those that profited in the pandemic will be on this .let's get the test trace Mrs woman on it. That make success out of it .or maybe the guy that sold the government millions of pounds in PPE that was the wrong sort. | |||
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"I think it’s a brilliant idea, this country is on its knees, we can not continue housing illegals at the rate in which we are. I have just reached down, and picked up my tin hat for protection "Who is housing illegals? | |||
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"I'm deeply suspicious of anyone who would actually go out of their way to come and live in this country It does baffle me why anyone from a warm country would want to come here but if look through nearly all our family trees .someone in the past came here from somewhere else ." Yes, like my Great Grandfather. But not one asks me "where I'm from" because I have white skin. The fact my Great Grandfather was a different race (yet still white skinned) eludes many. It's an atrocious idea. | |||
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"Is this another human trade triangle? What does Rwanda gain from it?" £120m in "investment" initially! Or a bung, whatever you prefer. | |||
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"I think it’s a brilliant idea, this country is on its knees, we can not continue housing illegals at the rate in which we are. I have just reached down, and picked up my tin hat for protection
Who is housing illegals? "There some have lived here for over 2o years and been process and not sent back . they new ones they putting up in hotels costing 5 million a day it said on the news so plenty of people marking money housing them. That's the ones they know about .but as I've said the home office not fit for purpose think of windrush and the farce with helping people suffering because the war in Ukraine people . they not enough people who dealing with the issues properly or fairly . | |||
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"Is this another human trade triangle? What does Rwanda gain from it? £120m in "investment" initially! Or a bung, whatever you prefer." Ah, I get it. Johnson has pals and relatives in Rwanda who will benefit financially from the suffering of human beings. Sounds like a Boris plan. | |||
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"Is this another human trade triangle? What does Rwanda gain from it? £120m in "investment" initially! Or a bung, whatever you prefer. Ah, I get it. Johnson has pals and relatives in Rwanda who will benefit financially from the suffering of human beings. Sounds like a Boris plan." Wouldn't put it past him... | |||
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"Is this another human trade triangle? What does Rwanda gain from it? £120m in "investment" initially! Or a bung, whatever you prefer." Choosing a poor country who needs the dough. | |||
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"This is inhuman/sexist and nothing to be proud of. Announced early to (successfully) distract. They’ll probably find out this breaks international law and then backtrack (as per usual). Apparently your right to human rights along with a qualitative assessment of your worth as a human is based on the geolocation of your mother’s vagina. This will not dissuade asylum seekers. It didn’t work in Australia and in 35yrs there will be a government apology for how we shipped teenage boys off to Rwandan camps to be abused and brutalised and gunned down for dissent. This is shit. Proper shit that makes us look evermore like District 1. Heartless attempt to motivate the pseudonym’d tanning salon bigots. And as for an MP saying ‘Its not like these are Ukrainians’ as if there is a ranking of worthiness international refugee… May as well have said they were the wrong colour of refugee. Angry and bored of this bunch shaming our country."  | |||
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"This is inhuman/sexist and nothing to be proud of. Announced early to (successfully) distract. They’ll probably find out this breaks international law and then backtrack (as per usual). Apparently your right to human rights along with a qualitative assessment of your worth as a human is based on the geolocation of your mother’s vagina. This will not dissuade asylum seekers. It didn’t work in Australia and in 35yrs there will be a government apology for how we shipped teenage boys off to Rwandan camps to be abused and brutalised and gunned down for dissent. This is shit. Proper shit that makes us look evermore like District 1. Heartless attempt to motivate the pseudonym’d tanning salon bigots. And as for an MP saying ‘Its not like these are Ukrainians’ as if there is a ranking of worthiness international refugee… May as well have said they were the wrong colour of refugee. Angry and bored of this bunch shaming our country." Spot on | |||
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"It will save African migrants travelling across continents to get to the uk. They’ll just head for Rwanda and start their application for uk there. Better than having human beings drowning in the channel. " yeah because going to a country with a recent history of genocide for the wrong type of people is sue to be a safe haven for refugees right? | |||
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"It will save African migrants travelling across continents to get to the uk. They’ll just head for Rwanda and start their application for uk there. Better than having human beings drowning in the channel. " If you think African migrants are going to head to Rwanda to apply for asylum in the UK, I'd think again. All that will happen is that new and even more subversive ways of travelling will be sought and there's incentive to stay well under the radar if you do make it to the UK, rather than accessing the help one is entitled to when claiming asylum. Rwanda has a terrible human rights track record... | |||
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"It will save African migrants travelling across continents to get to the uk. They’ll just head for Rwanda and start their application for uk there. Better than having human beings drowning in the channel. If you think African migrants are going to head to Rwanda to apply for asylum in the UK, I'd think again. All that will happen is that new and even more subversive ways of travelling will be sought and there's incentive to stay well under the radar if you do make it to the UK, rather than accessing the help one is entitled to when claiming asylum. Rwanda has a terrible human rights track record..." Well that maybe the case but obviously but obviously preti Patel Hadn't heard about it . | |||
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"It will save African migrants travelling across continents to get to the uk. They’ll just head for Rwanda and start their application for uk there. Better than having human beings drowning in the channel. If you think African migrants are going to head to Rwanda to apply for asylum in the UK, I'd think again. All that will happen is that new and even more subversive ways of travelling will be sought and there's incentive to stay well under the radar if you do make it to the UK, rather than accessing the help one is entitled to when claiming asylum. Rwanda has a terrible human rights track record... Well that maybe the case but obviously but obviously preti Patel Hadn't heard about it ." Priti Patel (the daughter of immigrants from Uganda, no less), couldn't give a shit. Her parents were considered to be economic migrants at the time. Idi Amin expelled people of Asian heritage a good ten years after her parents came here and she admits that under current rules, her parents would most likely not have been permitted to remain in the UK! Madness. | |||
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"I don't get how they can argue that 39 quid a week is expensive, so swap it for a scheme that is going to cost 10 times more than we already have! I find it barbaric, and to send them to a country that has an horrific human rights record is just evil! Someones going to get rich off this, wonder which Tory chum that will be! Thats the amount they are given to live on a week whilst waiting or their asylum claim to go through, it's apparently cheaper to put them up in the Ritz than send then out there! Yes someone in the whatsapp group is laughing all the way to the bank that's for sure. Don't know about the 39 quid But your correct those that profited in the pandemic will be on this .let's get the test trace Mrs woman on it. That make success out of it .or maybe the guy that sold the government millions of pounds in PPE that was the wrong sort." | |||
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"This is inhuman/sexist and nothing to be proud of. Announced early to (successfully) distract. They’ll probably find out this breaks international law and then backtrack (as per usual). Apparently your right to human rights along with a qualitative assessment of your worth as a human is based on the geolocation of your mother’s vagina. This will not dissuade asylum seekers. It didn’t work in Australia and in 35yrs there will be a government apology for how we shipped teenage boys off to Rwandan camps to be abused and brutalised and gunned down for dissent. This is shit. Proper shit that makes us look evermore like District 1. Heartless attempt to motivate the pseudonym’d tanning salon bigots. And as for an MP saying ‘Its not like these are Ukrainians’ as if there is a ranking of worthiness international refugee… May as well have said they were the wrong colour of refugee. Angry and bored of this bunch shaming our country." Agree, where was the adopt a Syrian or Iraqi refugee schemes? Look how they threw the Afghans who helped us under the bus! | |||
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"No. It’s our problem not Rwandas. Refugees or even illegal immigrants should not be outsourced. " Are you happy with the EU paying Turkey to house asylum seekers wanting to get into the EU? | |||
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"I cant see people opening up their homes to all these boat people like with the Ukrainians i wonder why?" maybe because they are ilegal and have not been invited ? Or the fact that they are predominantly young single men who are not helpless ? | |||
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"Firstly...NO! Stupid and possibly illegal. BUT: We all understand why refugees might be fleeing Afghanistan, Syria, Yemen etc. But WHY are they fleeing France and other safe, EU countries that they have passed through to be able to try and cross the channel in the first place? Why, when they have the money/wherewithal to pay possibly £1000's of pounds to criminal gangs? What makes the UK so attractive to these (often also economic migrants, single men etc.) people? Why are they not seeking asylum in other safe countries? The UN convention states they should seek asylum in the "first safe country" they reach. I don't know the solution. I'm glad it isn't my job to find one...but there must be a better answer!" I think these are all valid questions that need answering as we do need to understand why anyone wants to come to the UK rather than other countries in Europe. I don’t have the stats to hand but what I do know is that the reality is that out of all these refugees from the Middle East and Africa, the vast majority do aim for and try to settle in other European countries. The UK is only seeing a fraction of the total number. France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Greece all take more than the UK. Secondly, the origin country of these people normally dictates the country they are aiming to get into. It harks back to either Colonial rule or places where there was military intervention. Language also plays a part. English is the most widely spoken second language in the world. Unlike large numbers of British Immigrants (sorry Ex Pats) who invaded Spain and France, many of the immigrants trying to reach the UK can speak some of the local language. | |||
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"Putting aside any emotions or human compassion for a moment, let’s actually consider the economics here. 1. We are told this country has not got enough money (that’s a whole other topic as not actually true but it fits the narrative). 2. We do have a lot of people trying to enter the UK illegally. 3. Do we a) build some infrastructure in the UK (proper processing centres with accommodation creating jobs to build then staff the places) or b) spend a LOT more money putting these “illegal entrants” onto planes and flying them several thousand miles away? Of course our Govt decides on “b” because, you know, when they are spending OUR MONEY, there is no concern." However, this is meant to be a deterrent. If you go for (a) then it is no deterrent as the majority of the immigrants will use the loony left "human rights" lawyers (traitors?) to find some loophole so they can stay here eventually. With (b) if it is implemented properly i.e. the navy pick them up and then bus them under armed guard to the airport, then straight onto a plane it will start to deter many. However, there are too many spineless jobsworths in the Home Office and immigration service so there isn't much hope of it working at all. The Australians may only have resettled a few hundred but they deterred tens of thousands. We support genuine refugees but boat loads of young single men are almost certainly economic migrants. | |||
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"I've no problem with legal migration but god help any body have to deal with the home office . I'd have thought it be cheaper opening more offices in France to deal with people wanting to come here than rather that going through this nosence . but who knows maybe in time Rawsnda could become like Australia as it was thought to be good idea to send people there." It's a good idea for the Tories, it's a good distraction technique, and trafficking brown people to camps in Africa will excite people wavering between UKIP and Tories at the elections. Otherwise for the rest of us, it's an abhorrent way to treat human beings and a collosal waste of tax payers money. | |||
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"Putting aside any emotions or human compassion for a moment, let’s actually consider the economics here. 1. We are told this country has not got enough money (that’s a whole other topic as not actually true but it fits the narrative). 2. We do have a lot of people trying to enter the UK illegally. 3. Do we a) build some infrastructure in the UK (proper processing centres with accommodation creating jobs to build then staff the places) or b) spend a LOT more money putting these “illegal entrants” onto planes and flying them several thousand miles away? Of course our Govt decides on “b” because, you know, when they are spending OUR MONEY, there is no concern. However, this is meant to be a deterrent. If you go for (a) then it is no deterrent as the majority of the immigrants will use the loony left "human rights" lawyers (traitors?) to find some loophole so they can stay here eventually. With (b) if it is implemented properly i.e. the navy pick them up and then bus them under armed guard to the airport, then straight onto a plane it will start to deter many. However, there are too many spineless jobsworths in the Home Office and immigration service so there isn't much hope of it working at all. The Australians may only have resettled a few hundred but they deterred tens of thousands. We support genuine refugees but boat loads of young single men are almost certainly economic migrants." All of that can be achieved with “camps” on UK soil. Did you know that 75%, that’s three quarters, of all of these make asylum seekers, actually get approved as genuine cases. So assuming that figure is maintained, all we are doing is flying them, at great cost, to Rwanda and then later, at great cost, flying them back to the UK! It’s nuts! | |||
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"So assuming that figure is maintained, all we are doing is flying them, at great cost, to Rwanda and then later, at great cost, flying them back to the UK! It’s nuts!" No, the plan is that they are resettled in Rwanda if their asylum application is successful. It is a one way ticket. | |||
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"So assuming that figure is maintained, all we are doing is flying them, at great cost, to Rwanda and then later, at great cost, flying them back to the UK! It’s nuts! No, the plan is that they are resettled in Rwanda if their asylum application is successful. It is a one way ticket." No if you read more about it it’s the case of if they are successful they get to entertain the uk as a legal immigrant
If they fail they will be settled in Rwanda as a legal immigrant
Or they could choose to return to their country of origin.
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"Wrong morally and financially…a cynical ploy pre council elections to appeal to the worst instincts of the Tories " Well I suppose you could always sponsor one of the illegals and have them come live with you | |||
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"Wrong morally and financially…a cynical ploy pre council elections to appeal to the worst instincts of the Tories Well I suppose you could always sponsor one of the illegals and have them come live with you "Worst instincts… | |||
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"Wrong morally and financially…a cynical ploy pre council elections to appeal to the worst instincts of the Tories Well I suppose you could always sponsor one of the illegals and have them come live with you "Don't be silly. They think it's far more sporting to watch other people's towns and cities suffer from overcrowding, lack of housing, over run public services and a process that effects the working class more than anybody else | |||
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"Wrong morally and financially…a cynical ploy pre council elections to appeal to the worst instincts of the Tories Well I suppose you could always sponsor one of the illegals and have them come live with you "Are those the only options, This person's gaff or transport them to Rwanda? | |||
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"Wrong morally and financially…a cynical ploy pre council elections to appeal to the worst instincts of the Tories Well I suppose you could always sponsor one of the illegals and have them come live with you "Have you housed a homeless veteran? | |||
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" The UN convention states they should seek asylum in the "first safe country" they reach. " Have you ever checked whether that claim is true or have you always just taken it at face value? | |||
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"Wrong morally and financially…a cynical ploy pre council elections to appeal to the worst instincts of the Tories Well I suppose you could always sponsor one of the illegals and have them come live with you
Don't be silly. They think it's far more sporting to watch other people's towns and cities suffer from overcrowding, lack of housing, over run public services and a process that effects the working class more than anybody else"Oh dear you really have fallen for the “that guy’s stealing your cookie” rhetoric! 1. Everything you say about public services are true but it is not the fault of the immigrants, it is the systemic and structural deficiencies in our Govt and gross underfunding. Eg. Not enough social housing - blame immigrants - no! Blame the sell off of council housing at discounted prices leading to the growth in buy-to-let landlords and the lack of investment in building new/replacement council housing. 2. The uncomfortable truth for people who are anti-immigration is that the UK has negative population growth amongst the indigenous population. We also have an ageing population (people are living longer and being pensioners for longer and putting pressure on health and social care). So if we do not have enough economically active (tax paying) young people, how will the pensions and healthcare for the increasing numbers of old people? 3. It is quite clear that many Brits on benefits do not want to do the “horrible” jobs, so who will? 4. The whole “immigrants take our jobs” has been proven wrong because there are record numbers of vacancies so why aren’t they being filled with all those angry Brits who were blaming immigrants for taking the jobs? | |||
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"Wrong morally and financially…a cynical ploy pre council elections to appeal to the worst instincts of the Tories Well I suppose you could always sponsor one of the illegals and have them come live with you
Have you housed a homeless veteran? "No and no intention of but then again I’m not the one who is banging on about the uk owing everyone’s entrance to the uk regardless of how they get here. I support charities both here and abroad and that’s as far as I go | |||
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"Wrong morally and financially…a cynical ploy pre council elections to appeal to the worst instincts of the Tories Well I suppose you could always sponsor one of the illegals and have them come live with you
Don't be silly. They think it's far more sporting to watch other people's towns and cities suffer from overcrowding, lack of housing, over run public services and a process that effects the working class more than anybody else
Oh dear you really have fallen for the “that guy’s stealing your cookie” rhetoric!
1. Everything you say about public services are true but it is not the fault of the immigrants, it is the systemic and structural deficiencies in our Govt and gross underfunding.
Eg. Not enough social housing - blame immigrants - no! Blame the sell off of council housing at discounted prices leading to the growth in buy-to-let landlords and the lack of investment in building new/replacement council housing.
2. The uncomfortable truth for people who are anti-immigration is that the UK has negative population growth amongst the indigenous population. We also have an ageing population (people are living longer and being pensioners for longer and putting pressure on health and social care).
So if we do not have enough economically active (tax paying) young people, how will the pensions and healthcare for the increasing numbers of old people?
3. It is quite clear that many Brits on benefits do not want to do the “horrible” jobs, so who will?
4. The whole “immigrants take our jobs” has been proven wrong because there are record numbers of vacancies so why aren’t they being filled with all those angry Brits who were blaming immigrants for taking the jobs?"I didn't say anything about your above points being the fault of immigrants. And beside even if any of those points were true it still wouldn't argue for mass immigration as being the solution. I'd be more than happy for the UK to be less populated than it is now | |||
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"If they fail they will be settled in Rwanda as a legal immigrant " That is not what we have seen, however if it is true then yet again Priti Useless has failed. Where the policy also fails is that the immigrants are "assessed" in the UK first. This allows the jobsworths at the Home Office to mess things up. Also, there will be 5 days notice given of the deportation to Rwanda so all the "Human Rights" vultures will be circling. As with all previous Home Secretaries, Priti Useless has failed to control the Home Office. | |||
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He's never been to Rwanda so can't really comment but some places Paul goes to we wouldn't live there but surprisingly the people who do are really happy.
Maybe a quick trip out there would be in order before I could offer an opinion because sometimes what you read and see is not quite the whole truth.
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"Wrong morally and financially…a cynical ploy pre council elections to appeal to the worst instincts of the Tories Well I suppose you could always sponsor one of the illegals and have them come live with you
Don't be silly. They think it's far more sporting to watch other people's towns and cities suffer from overcrowding, lack of housing, over run public services and a process that effects the working class more than anybody else
Oh dear you really have fallen for the “that guy’s stealing your cookie” rhetoric!
1. Everything you say about public services are true but it is not the fault of the immigrants, it is the systemic and structural deficiencies in our Govt and gross underfunding.
Eg. Not enough social housing - blame immigrants - no! Blame the sell off of council housing at discounted prices leading to the growth in buy-to-let landlords and the lack of investment in building new/replacement council housing.
2. The uncomfortable truth for people who are anti-immigration is that the UK has negative population growth amongst the indigenous population. We also have an ageing population (people are living longer and being pensioners for longer and putting pressure on health and social care).
So if we do not have enough economically active (tax paying) young people, how will the pensions and healthcare for the increasing numbers of old people?
3. It is quite clear that many Brits on benefits do not want to do the “horrible” jobs, so who will?
4. The whole “immigrants take our jobs” has been proven wrong because there are record numbers of vacancies so why aren’t they being filled with all those angry Brits who were blaming immigrants for taking the jobs?
I didn't say anything about your above points being the fault of immigrants. And beside even if any of those points were true it still wouldn't argue for mass immigration as being the solution. I'd be more than happy for the UK to be less populated than it is now"Oh my points are totally true. It’s all out there for your research. Hardly think the “immigrant crisis” represents “mass migration”. So you’d be happier for the population of the UK to be smaller. Ok I understand that but you do realise that can only lead to one thing... the taxation burden on your children and grandchildren being huge just to support your generation as they grow old... because you do know that, unless you are very wealthy, your usage of publicly funded services increases with age! | |||
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"Well. There on postive that come out of this debate . Liz of Liz and Paul. Has offered. To take trip over there and check Out for us and report back Then perhaps we can all be more inform on the subject " Absolutely. To be fair I have no idea what the place would be like. We tend to cling onto previous horror stories and never expect change, a country getting better never creates headlines. When you think of the atrocities committted in the Balkans not so many years ago, now you need to be a lottery winner to get an apartment out there. Places change....sometimes. | |||
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"I've no problem with legal migration but god help any body have to deal with the home office . I'd have thought it be cheaper opening more offices in France to deal with people wanting to come here than rather that going through this nosence . but who knows maybe in time Rawsnda could become like Australia as it was thought to be good idea to send people there." no | |||
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"Despite how much of a shit hole france is. No one coming from there is seeking asylum. That’s an economic migrant. This government failed in taking so long to get this far IMO. I’d just take them back to france and seize the boats. A refugee must stop in the first safe country. We are not the first safe country in their travels. " Errr… no. That is 100% wrong. The UN charter covering it states they only have to name a destination. It could be one or ten countries in between as it makes no difference. | |||
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"Firstly...NO! Stupid and possibly illegal. BUT: We all understand why refugees might be fleeing Afghanistan, Syria, Yemen etc. But WHY are they fleeing France and other safe, EU countries that they have passed through to be able to try and cross the channel in the first place? Why, when they have the money/wherewithal to pay possibly £1000's of pounds to criminal gangs? What makes the UK so attractive to these (often also economic migrants, single men etc.) people? Why are they not seeking asylum in other safe countries? The UN convention states they should seek asylum in the "first safe country" they reach. I don't know the solution. I'm glad it isn't my job to find one...but there must be a better answer!" Primarily it’s about language. As America is the current dominant culture, English is the most widely spoken language in the world. That’s why they come here. And you are half right about the UN charter. They have to register as refugees in the first safe country, but that isn’t where they have to claim asylum. They declare their intended destination and are free to travel there. | |||
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"So assuming that figure is maintained, all we are doing is flying them, at great cost, to Rwanda and then later, at great cost, flying them back to the UK! It’s nuts! No, the plan is that they are resettled in Rwanda if their asylum application is successful. It is a one way ticket. No if you read more about it it’s the case of if they are successful they get to entertain the uk as a legal immigrant
If they fail they will be settled in Rwanda as a legal immigrant
Or they could choose to return to their country of origin.
"That's my understanding of it too and I think it's how Denmark work it that do this set up too. It seems many wait a long time to have their application processed often over a year. The main difference being where they wait while the application is assessed. From a financial point i guess it's the difference between flying them out and possibly back plus what they give Rwanda versus supporting them in the UK with what they need for as long as needed. As said on another thread, it's a legal minefield so may not happen. Biggest winners will be lawyers | |||
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If they fail they will be settled in Rwanda as a legal immigrant
Or they could choose to return to their country of origin.
That's my understanding of it too and I think it's how Denmark work it that do this set up too. It seems many wait a long time to have their application processed often over a year. The main difference being where they wait while the application is assessed. From a financial point i guess it's the difference between flying them out and possibly back plus what they give Rwanda versus supporting them in the UK with what they need for as long as needed. As said on another thread, it's a legal minefield so may not happen. Biggest winners will be lawyers""This will see migrants who make dangerous or illegal journeys, such as by small boat or hidden in lorries, have their asylum claim processed in Rwanda. Those whose claims are accepted will then be supported to build a new and prosperous life in one of the fastest-growing economies, recognised globally for its record on welcoming and integrating migrants." I'm reading it as of they are staying in Rwanda if accepted (Above is from the Home Office) | |||
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"Despite how much of a shit hole france is. No one coming from there is seeking asylum. That’s an economic migrant. This government failed in taking so long to get this far IMO. I’d just take them back to france and seize the boats. A refugee must stop in the first safe country. We are not the first safe country in their travels. Errr… no. That is 100% wrong. The UN charter covering it states they only have to name a destination. It could be one or ten countries in between as it makes no difference." and that's the big problem another law that needs changing | |||
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Homosexuality is not illegal in Rwanda but remains frowned on by many. LGBT individuals can experience discrimination and abuse, including from local authorities. There are no specific anti-discrimination laws that protect LGBT individuals. See our information and advice page for the LGBT community before you travel."I don't tend to advertise the fact that I attend swin,gers parties, clubs, gangbangs, enjoy ladies, men, 3 somes, 4somes and everyso more somes. Indeed, I am a pillar of decency when out and about but do often think whilst engaging in polite conversation, wonder if they would be interested in fucking me senseless. But most of this daydreaming usually ends up with a polite, lovely to see you again vicar. | |||
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"So assuming that figure is maintained, all we are doing is flying them, at great cost, to Rwanda and then later, at great cost, flying them back to the UK! It’s nuts! No, the plan is that they are resettled in Rwanda if their asylum application is successful. It is a one way ticket. No if you read more about it it’s the case of if they are successful they get to entertain the uk as a legal immigrant
If they fail they will be settled in Rwanda as a legal immigrant
Or they could choose to return to their country of origin.
That's my understanding of it too and I think it's how Denmark work it that do this set up too. It seems many wait a long time to have their application processed often over a year. The main difference being where they wait while the application is assessed. From a financial point i guess it's the difference between flying them out and possibly back plus what they give Rwanda versus supporting them in the UK with what they need for as long as needed. As said on another thread, it's a legal minefield so may not happen. Biggest winners will be lawyers
"This will see migrants who make dangerous or illegal journeys, such as by small boat or hidden in lorries, have their asylum claim processed in Rwanda. Those whose claims are accepted will then be supported to build a new and prosperous life in one of the fastest-growing economies, recognised globally for its record on welcoming and integrating migrants."
I'm reading it as of they are staying in Rwanda if accepted
(Above is from the Home Office)"I thought staying in Rwanda if accepted was among their options but not their only option. Maybe it's how you say which I guess would increase the deterrent factor as if you risk your life getting here and survive then you have limited your options to Rwanda only | |||
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"As I understand bit, even if they are granted asylum, they stay in Rwanda. That feels off to me. People have the right to apply for asylum wherever they want to. If you're looking the cut the oxygen to smugglers there are a lot better ways of doing this. Find ways of processing in France. Or even better nearer the place they are fleeing from. But on the plus side, maybe the Tories have solved the long term care issues. Send OAPs to Rwanda. It's nice there "I believe Boris et al are in talks with France and the EU about illegal migrants and Rwanda is a temporary solution to the problem. | |||
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"Conservative MP highlights that it's cheaper to put them up in Rhe Ritz, than waste money this way. Refugees deserve compassion and this plan reeks of desperation, from a PM who now has a criminal record, trying to deflect attention, yet again. A truly sleazy act. The UK should be improving its reputation, not running to trash it. " So we are now up to 600 a day, times that by the next year just from that one source I.e small boats 219,000 and that’s not counting from all the other sources that are through legal channels. When is it enough ? Considering people who were born and brought up here using food banks can’t afford to pay rent bills ect. When does the uk call a halt ? | |||
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It’s against international law to send them back to France
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Knowing ru well that’s the last they will see of them
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" So we are now up to 600 a day, times that by the next year just from that one source I.e small boats 219,000 and that’s not counting from all the other sources that are through legal channels. When is it enough ? Considering people who were born and brought up here using food banks can’t afford to pay rent bills ect. When does the uk call a halt ?" The UK calls a halt to problems caused by capitalism when we all get together to at least vote against parties which promote the most extreme forms of it. I take it you're Labour or to the left of that by what you are saying? Convice more people to take the same position as you. | |||
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It’s against international law to send them back to France
Yes and the French know this hence the Gendarmes waving the migrants off on the beaches
Knowing ru well that’s the last they will see of them
The law is the law, even Boris can’t break this one , "no but we can change it to suit. | |||
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It’s against international law to send them back to France
Yes and the French know this hence the Gendarmes waving the migrants off on the beaches
Knowing ru well that’s the last they will see of them
The law is the law, even Boris can’t break this one , no but we can change it to suit. "We can't unilaterally change international law. | |||
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"Despite how much of a shit hole france is. No one coming from there is seeking asylum. That’s an economic migrant. This government failed in taking so long to get this far IMO. I’d just take them back to france and seize the boats. A refugee must stop in the first safe country. We are not the first safe country in their travels. Errr… no. That is 100% wrong. The UN charter covering it states they only have to name a destination. It could be one or ten countries in between as it makes no difference.and that's the big problem another law that needs changing what would you change it to ?first safe country is where you apply for asylum simples then when granted they can apply to the country they want to settle in let that government then check them out and if accepted I don't have a problem with that but I still wouldn't give any benefits to them until they had put in don't see a problem with that. How can they put in if they don't have a job? easy they have to pay for everything until they get one if not tough Do you understand what a refugee is??" most definitely I do but most arnt refugees there young economic migrants we have 50 in are hotel 40young lads 3 children 4 women 3 men 40 ish all economic I'd send at least all the males back. | |||
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It’s against international law to send them back to France
Yes and the French know this hence the Gendarmes waving the migrants off on the beaches
Knowing ru well that’s the last they will see of them
The law is the law, even Boris can’t break this one , no but we can change it to suit.
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It’s against international law to send them back to France
Yes and the French know this hence the Gendarmes waving the migrants off on the beaches
Knowing ru well that’s the last they will see of them
The law is the law, even Boris can’t break this one , no but we can change it to suit.
We can't unilaterally change international law. yes we can pull out and put are own in place why do you have a problem with that "You don't pull out of international laws and make up your own. That is the point of law. It's a predictable framework of behaviour. If anyone can make anything up there is no law. | |||
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"Despite how much of a shit hole france is. No one coming from there is seeking asylum. That’s an economic migrant. This government failed in taking so long to get this far IMO. I’d just take them back to france and seize the boats. A refugee must stop in the first safe country. We are not the first safe country in their travels. Errr… no. That is 100% wrong. The UN charter covering it states they only have to name a destination. It could be one or ten countries in between as it makes no difference.and that's the big problem another law that needs changing what would you change it to ?first safe country is where you apply for asylum simples then when granted they can apply to the country they want to settle in let that government then check them out and if accepted I don't have a problem with that but I still wouldn't give any benefits to them until they had put in don't see a problem with that. How can they put in if they don't have a job? easy they have to pay for everything until they get one if not tough Do you understand what a refugee is??most definitely I do but most arnt refugees there young economic migrants we have 50 in are hotel 40young lads 3 children 4 women 3 men 40 ish all economic I'd send at least all the males back. " "Most"? Are young men all economic migrants? Aren't they the most likely demographic to be protesters? Perhaps they are gay and face persecution for that? What do you, actually, know about them? Have you really sat and counted this figure? Do you know if it is typical of all asylum seekers if you have, somehow, conducted this survey in one location? | |||
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"Despite how much of a shit hole france is. No one coming from there is seeking asylum. That’s an economic migrant. This government failed in taking so long to get this far IMO. I’d just take them back to france and seize the boats. A refugee must stop in the first safe country. We are not the first safe country in their travels. Errr… no. That is 100% wrong. The UN charter covering it states they only have to name a destination. It could be one or ten countries in between as it makes no difference.and that's the big problem another law that needs changing what would you change it to ?first safe country is where you apply for asylum simples then when granted they can apply to the country they want to settle in let that government then check them out and if accepted I don't have a problem with that but I still wouldn't give any benefits to them until they had put in don't see a problem with that. How can they put in if they don't have a job? easy they have to pay for everything until they get one if not tough" Have you done any research into this? Are you aware that asylum seekers are not allowed to work whilst applications are under review? That is to prevent any "competition" for jobs. | |||
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"Despite how much of a shit hole france is. No one coming from there is seeking asylum. That’s an economic migrant. This government failed in taking so long to get this far IMO. I’d just take them back to france and seize the boats. A refugee must stop in the first safe country. We are not the first safe country in their travels. Errr… no. That is 100% wrong. The UN charter covering it states they only have to name a destination. It could be one or ten countries in between as it makes no difference.and that's the big problem another law that needs changing what would you change it to ?first safe country is where you apply for asylum simples then when granted they can apply to the country they want to settle in let that government then check them out and if accepted I don't have a problem with that but I still wouldn't give any benefits to them until they had put in don't see a problem with that. How can they put in if they don't have a job? easy they have to pay for everything until they get one if not tough Do you understand what a refugee is??most definitely I do but most arnt refugees there young economic migrants we have 50 in are hotel 40young lads 3 children 4 women 3 men 40 ish all economic I'd send at least all the males back. " You say "are [sic]" hotel? You know that if you are so vehemently against these people being here, you don't have to accept money to host them? If it's not your hotel, then obviously I've misunderstood. To answer your other question about international law, it's really nothing to do with my opinion (or frankly Boris Johnson's either) about international law. It's essential that there is some way to maintain fairness, irrespective of which country is involved in a situation. I'm sure you very much value international law and take it for granted. It's international law that preserves your human rights, as well as everyone else's. | |||
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"Conservative MP highlights that it's cheaper to put them up in Rhe Ritz, than waste money this way. Refugees deserve compassion and this plan reeks of desperation, from a PM who now has a criminal record, trying to deflect attention, yet again. A truly sleazy act. The UK should be improving its reputation, not running to trash it. So we are now up to 600 a day, times that by the next year just from that one source I.e small boats 219,000 and that’s not counting from all the other sources that are through legal channels. When is it enough ? Considering people who were born and brought up here using food banks can’t afford to pay rent bills ect. When does the uk call a halt ?" 600 per day do not necessarily stay. Their asylum applications are reviewed and they start life in the UK or they are returned home. Sending people to Rwanda doesn't change the process. They will still have to be assessed and paid subsistence. There is enough money to solve our own problems and help others. We just don't collect it from the wealthy and large corporations. I've already suggested much cheaper solution, but "calling a halt" sounds much tougher. This is just expensive posturing, isn't it? | |||
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" It's essential that there is some way to maintain fairness, irrespective of which country is involved in a situation. I'm sure you very much value international law and take it for granted. It's international law that preserves your human rights, as well as everyone else's. " Not every country is a party to the main global refugee protection instrument, the 1951 Refugee Convention, such as Saudi Arabia, UAE, Japan, Singapore, South Korea, Hungary (EU country!), Macedonia, Indonesia, Malaysia and plenty more! Again, “Human rights” are not the same in each country either. | |||
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It’s against international law to send them back to France
Yes and the French know this hence the Gendarmes waving the migrants off on the beaches
Knowing ru well that’s the last they will see of them
The law is the law, even Boris can’t break this one , no but we can change it to suit.
We can't unilaterally change international law. yes we can pull out and put are own in place why do you have a problem with that "Because it makes us (specifically our government ) look even bigger cunts than they do right now (if possible ) | |||
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"Oh forgot, elections in a few weeks. Rwanda will be forgotten next month. Spoke to a lady in France. She had been granted asylum in UK and as such shouldn't return to Uganda but she showed me her British document, looks like British passport, not sure of the correct name, you get one when you are granted asylum. She used this document to travel from UK to France, with her Ugandan passport hidden and then used her Ugandan passport from France to Uganda. Asked her what she said to UK immigration when arriving back in UK, she said just been on a trip to France. Bit naughty but crafty. " I wonder why she told you ? Wasn't she worried you would report her and she could be deported ? | |||
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"As for foreign aid - Britain should not be giving any foreign aid at all - charity begins at home! We should be investing those billions of tax payers money into social housing and not have anyone homeless, nor relying on food banks etc in the UK.
Have you taken in any of these ‘British’ homeless people?
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"Oh and you cannot send them back to France as they will not accept them
It’s against international law to send them back to France
Yes and the French know this hence the Gendarmes waving the migrants off on the beaches
Knowing ru well that’s the last they will see of them
The law is the law, even Boris can’t break this one , no but we can change it to suit.
We can't unilaterally change international law. yes we can pull out and put are own in place why do you have a problem with that
Because it makes us (specifically our government ) look even bigger cunts than they do right now (if possible ) "Look at the opinion polls. The vast majority of the UK backs it! | |||
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"Oh and you cannot send them back to France as they will not accept them
It’s against international law to send them back to France
Yes and the French know this hence the Gendarmes waving the migrants off on the beaches
Knowing ru well that’s the last they will see of them
The law is the law, even Boris can’t break this one , no but we can change it to suit.
We can't unilaterally change international law. yes we can pull out and put are own in place why do you have a problem with that
Because it makes us (specifically our government ) look even bigger cunts than they do right now (if possible )
Look at the opinion polls. The vast majority of the UK backs it! "They don’t, it won’t happen, your glorious leader is laughing at your gullibility, your obviously very easy to fool | |||
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"As for foreign aid - Britain should not be giving any foreign aid at all - charity begins at home! We should be investing those billions of tax payers money into social housing and not have anyone homeless, nor relying on food banks etc in the UK.
Have you taken in any of these ‘British’ homeless people?
The foreign aid money should be spent on this!!!Try reading what I wrote!"But that's the point. It won't. No matter what. Imagine if billions hadn't been spunked down the brexit toilet. Would any of that been spent on the British public, unlikely. | |||
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"Illegal under international law apparently, but, the Tories haven't much problem breaking the law It won’t happen, it is just a gimmick by Boris to appease the racists , they are so easy to fool Racists? Why bring race in to it? " Because racists will love it, sending brown immigrants 1000s of miles to Rwanda? Right up their street | |||
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"Illegal under international law apparently, but, the Tories haven't much problem breaking the law It won’t happen, it is just a gimmick by Boris to appease the racists , they are so easy to fool Racists? Why bring race in to it? Because thats his go to line haven't you noticed?yes anytime you disagree with them they Chuck the race card in and totally devalue racism " What are you talking about, you said yourself they shouldn’t send them to Rwanda | |||
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"Illegal under international law apparently, but, the Tories haven't much problem breaking the law It won’t happen, it is just a gimmick by Boris to appease the racists , they are so easy to fool Racists? Why bring race in to it? Because racists will love it, sending brown immigrants 1000s of miles to Rwanda? Right up their street " Thankfully the UK is not a racist filled / led hell hole as some would believe. It’s one of the most multi culti welcoming nations on earth. Something of which we should be very proud. | |||
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"Illegal under international law apparently, but, the Tories haven't much problem breaking the law It won’t happen, it is just a gimmick by Boris to appease the racists , they are so easy to fool Racists? Why bring race in to it? Because racists will love it, sending brown immigrants 1000s of miles to Rwanda? Right up their street Thankfully the UK is not a racist filled / led hell hole as some would believe. It’s one of the most multi culti welcoming nations on earth. Something of which we should be very proud. " I agree, that is why sending immigrants to Rwanda isn’t a good idea, | |||
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"Oh forgot, elections in a few weeks. Rwanda will be forgotten next month. Spoke to a lady in France. She had been granted asylum in UK and as such shouldn't return to Uganda but she showed me her British document, looks like British passport, not sure of the correct name, you get one when you are granted asylum. She used this document to travel from UK to France, with her Ugandan passport hidden and then used her Ugandan passport from France to Uganda. Asked her what she said to UK immigration when arriving back in UK, she said just been on a trip to France. Bit naughty but crafty. I wonder why she told you ? Wasn't she worried you would report her and she could be deported ?" No, was returning from work in Africa and helped her with a suitcase and she was quite chatty, she asked me best way to get to GDN station for Eurostar and I was going to GDN to get the metro so had plenty of time to chat. Wouldn't think of reporting her, wasn't too sure and still don't really know what the rules are. If she has found a loop hole then nothing to do with me. I'm not the reporting type of person.
Would you have reported her, who to, where do you go to while in Paris to report her criminal act.
Can you imagine going up to a French policeman and saying I wish to report a crime of a lady trying to enter UK illegally.
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Would you have reported her, who to, where do you go to while in Paris to report her criminal act.
Can you imagine going up to a French policeman and saying I wish to report a crime of a lady trying to enter UK illegally.
I can just see his reaction.
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"Illegal under international law apparently, but, the Tories haven't much problem breaking the law It won’t happen, it is just a gimmick by Boris to appease the racists , they are so easy to fool Racists? Why bring race in to it? Because racists will love it, sending brown immigrants 1000s of miles to Rwanda? Right up their street " your pulling back now come on grow ya balls tell us who these racists are then and yes I don’t think it’s a good idea sending them there money could be better spent elsewhere | |||
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"Oh forgot, elections in a few weeks. Rwanda will be forgotten next month. Spoke to a lady in France. She had been granted asylum in UK and as such shouldn't return to Uganda but she showed me her British document, looks like British passport, not sure of the correct name, you get one when you are granted asylum. She used this document to travel from UK to France, with her Ugandan passport hidden and then used her Ugandan passport from France to Uganda. Asked her what she said to UK immigration when arriving back in UK, she said just been on a trip to France. Bit naughty but crafty. I wonder why she told you ? Wasn't she worried you would report her and she could be deported ? No, was returning from work in Africa and helped her with a suitcase and she was quite chatty, she asked me best way to get to GDN station for Eurostar and I was going to GDN to get the metro so had plenty of time to chat. Wouldn't think of reporting her, wasn't too sure and still don't really know what the rules are. If she has found a loop hole then nothing to do with me. I'm not the reporting type of person.
Would you have reported her, who to, where do you go to while in Paris to report her criminal act.
Can you imagine going up to a French policeman and saying I wish to report a crime of a lady trying to enter UK illegally.
I can just see his reaction.
Pritti Patel will be furious, she wanted people to grass on their neighbours if they were breaking covid laws (ironic) so she would have been delighted if you had turned her in"Wow, wonder if there is a reward. Paul could become a bounty hunter and be on the local evening news tv. He could wear a big ten gallon bounty hunters hat and be introduced as the illegal immigrant bounty hunter with a ten gallon hat on a two pint brain. He's sitting next to me and just shaking his head, do love him though. | |||
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"Oh forgot, elections in a few weeks. Rwanda will be forgotten next month. Spoke to a lady in France. She had been granted asylum in UK and as such shouldn't return to Uganda but she showed me her British document, looks like British passport, not sure of the correct name, you get one when you are granted asylum. She used this document to travel from UK to France, with her Ugandan passport hidden and then used her Ugandan passport from France to Uganda. Asked her what she said to UK immigration when arriving back in UK, she said just been on a trip to France. Bit naughty but crafty. I wonder why she told you ? Wasn't she worried you would report her and she could be deported ? No, was returning from work in Africa and helped her with a suitcase and she was quite chatty, she asked me best way to get to GDN station for Eurostar and I was going to GDN to get the metro so had plenty of time to chat. Wouldn't think of reporting her, wasn't too sure and still don't really know what the rules are. If she has found a loop hole then nothing to do with me. I'm not the reporting type of person.
Would you have reported her, who to, where do you go to while in Paris to report her criminal act.
Can you imagine going up to a French policeman and saying I wish to report a crime of a lady trying to enter UK illegally.
I can just see his reaction.
Pritti Patel will be furious, she wanted people to grass on their neighbours if they were breaking covid laws (ironic) so she would have been delighted if you had turned her in
Wow, wonder if there is a reward.
Paul could become a bounty hunter and be on the local evening news tv.
He could wear a big ten gallon bounty hunters hat and be introduced as the illegal immigrant bounty hunter with a ten gallon hat on a two pint brain.
He's sitting next to me and just shaking his head, do love him though. "No reward, just a sinister smile from our Home Secretary | |||
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"I think it’s a brilliant idea, this country is on its knees, we can not continue housing illegals at the rate in which we are. I have just reached down, and picked up my tin hat for protection "By definition they are not illegal. You need to read more facts. | |||
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"Illegal under international law apparently, but, the Tories haven't much problem breaking the law It won’t happen, it is just a gimmick by Boris to appease the racists , they are so easy to fool Racists? Why bring race in to it? Because racists will love it, sending brown immigrants 1000s of miles to Rwanda? Right up their street your pulling back now come on grow ya balls tell us who these racists are then and yes I don’t think it’s a good idea sending them there money could be better spent elsewhere Racist a person who is prejudiced against or antagonistic towards people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized." so people who are for this are racist then ? | |||
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"Illegal under international law apparently, but, the Tories haven't much problem breaking the law It won’t happen, it is just a gimmick by Boris to appease the racists , they are so easy to fool Racists? Why bring race in to it? Because racists will love it, sending brown immigrants 1000s of miles to Rwanda? Right up their street your pulling back now come on grow ya balls tell us who these racists are then and yes I don’t think it’s a good idea sending them there money could be better spent elsewhere Racist a person who is prejudiced against or antagonistic towards people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.so people who are for this are racist then ?" Do I have to spell this out yet again, not all people who are ‘for’ this are racist but all racists will be ‘for ‘ this and hope it happens . | |||
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"Illegal under international law apparently, but, the Tories haven't much problem breaking the law It won’t happen, it is just a gimmick by Boris to appease the racists , they are so easy to fool Racists? Why bring race in to it? Because racists will love it, sending brown immigrants 1000s of miles to Rwanda? Right up their street your pulling back now come on grow ya balls tell us who these racists are then and yes I don’t think it’s a good idea sending them there money could be better spent elsewhere Racist a person who is prejudiced against or antagonistic towards people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.so people who are for this are racist then ? Do I have to spell this out yet again, not all people who are ‘for’ this are racist but all racists will be ‘for ‘ this and hope it happens . " and what about people who just don’t want illegal immigrants in the U.K. ? You said it was a gimmick to appease the racists so are the racists a big voter of the forties then and they don’t vote for Labour ? | |||
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"Illegal under international law apparently, but, the Tories haven't much problem breaking the law It won’t happen, it is just a gimmick by Boris to appease the racists , they are so easy to fool Racists? Why bring race in to it? Because racists will love it, sending brown immigrants 1000s of miles to Rwanda? Right up their street your pulling back now come on grow ya balls tell us who these racists are then and yes I don’t think it’s a good idea sending them there money could be better spent elsewhere Racist a person who is prejudiced against or antagonistic towards people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.so people who are for this are racist then ? Do I have to spell this out yet again, not all people who are ‘for’ this are racist but all racists will be ‘for ‘ this and hope it happens . and what about people who just don’t want illegal immigrants in the U.K. ? You said it was a gimmick to appease the racists so are the racists a big voter of the forties then and they don’t vote for Labour ?" It is a gimmick to appease the racists? I am not sure why you keep me asking me as you agree it’s a daft idea | |||
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"Illegal under international law apparently, but, the Tories haven't much problem breaking the law It won’t happen, it is just a gimmick by Boris to appease the racists , they are so easy to fool Racists? Why bring race in to it? Because thats his go to line haven't you noticed?yes anytime you disagree with them they Chuck the race card in and totally devalue racism To the three of you; Should Ukrainians be provided a special route to asylum not available to others? A route that was closed to Syrians, for instance? Closing down legitimate routes to claiming asylum makes people "illegal" immigrants although legally in both international and English law they are not, actually, "illegal". If one group is not privileged then the policy is not racist, it is just nasty and illegal. If one group is privileged then it is racist. It appears to be aimed at coloured people, as most immigration fears are. I seem to remember a photo during the Brexit campaign that was used for campaign purposes... Why on earth would anyone from Syria want to come to this racist infested shithole? Sunlit uplands , Crown stamp on pint glasses. Food banks? Giant lorry parks in Kent maybe?" NHS waiting lists? | |||
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"Fantastic idea as long as it works and stops them coming or drowning worked out OK for Australia,can't see a problem." It cost Australia £2 million per refugee and didn’t work, btw, it won’t happen, you have been told another lie by a liar and you feel for it , again | |||
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"Fantastic idea as long as it works and stops them coming or drowning worked out OK for Australia,can't see a problem." Australia send people seeking to immigrate over to Rwanda! Shocking news. Where have you seen this reported? Anyway, just poking fun. It's funny how people get excited about the government wasting 100s of millions on trafficking humans 1000s of miles to Africa. | |||
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"Illegal under international law apparently, but, the Tories haven't much problem breaking the law It won’t happen, it is just a gimmick by Boris to appease the racists , they are so easy to fool Racists? Why bring race in to it? Because thats his go to line haven't you noticed?yes anytime you disagree with them they Chuck the race card in and totally devalue racism To the three of you; Should Ukrainians be provided a special route to asylum not available to others? A route that was closed to Syrians, for instance? Closing down legitimate routes to claiming asylum makes people "illegal" immigrants although legally in both international and English law they are not, actually, "illegal". If one group is not privileged then the policy is not racist, it is just nasty and illegal. If one group is privileged then it is racist. It appears to be aimed at coloured people, as most immigration fears are. I seem to remember a photo during the Brexit campaign that was used for campaign purposes... Why on earth would anyone from Syria want to come to this racist infested shithole? Sunlit uplands , Crown stamp on pint glasses. Food banks? Giant lorry parks in Kent maybe? NHS waiting lists? wow look at you two someone calls your country and you jump on it slagging it’s of aswell corbyn would be so proud of you lol" I am slagging of the government for letting this happen, do you wear Union Jack under pants | |||
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"Illegal under international law apparently, but, the Tories haven't much problem breaking the law It won’t happen, it is just a gimmick by Boris to appease the racists , they are so easy to fool Racists? Why bring race in to it? Because thats his go to line haven't you noticed?yes anytime you disagree with them they Chuck the race card in and totally devalue racism To the three of you; Should Ukrainians be provided a special route to asylum not available to others? A route that was closed to Syrians, for instance? Closing down legitimate routes to claiming asylum makes people "illegal" immigrants although legally in both international and English law they are not, actually, "illegal". If one group is not privileged then the policy is not racist, it is just nasty and illegal. If one group is privileged then it is racist. It appears to be aimed at coloured people, as most immigration fears are. I seem to remember a photo during the Brexit campaign that was used for campaign purposes... Why on earth would anyone from Syria want to come to this racist infested shithole? Sunlit uplands , Crown stamp on pint glasses. Food banks? Giant lorry parks in Kent maybe? NHS waiting lists? wow look at you two someone calls your country and you jump on it slagging it’s of aswell corbyn would be so proud of you lol" Hold on. What the actual fuck? Do you really think that people who understand some of the impact of brexit are slagging off the country simply by discussing it. Blimey. | |||
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"Illegal under international law apparently, but, the Tories haven't much problem breaking the law It won’t happen, it is just a gimmick by Boris to appease the racists , they are so easy to fool Racists? Why bring race in to it? Because thats his go to line haven't you noticed?yes anytime you disagree with them they Chuck the race card in and totally devalue racism To the three of you; Should Ukrainians be provided a special route to asylum not available to others? A route that was closed to Syrians, for instance? Closing down legitimate routes to claiming asylum makes people "illegal" immigrants although legally in both international and English law they are not, actually, "illegal". If one group is not privileged then the policy is not racist, it is just nasty and illegal. If one group is privileged then it is racist. It appears to be aimed at coloured people, as most immigration fears are. I seem to remember a photo during the Brexit campaign that was used for campaign purposes... Why on earth would anyone from Syria want to come to this racist infested shithole? Sunlit uplands , Crown stamp on pint glasses. Food banks? Giant lorry parks in Kent maybe? NHS waiting lists? wow look at you two someone calls your country and you jump on it slagging it’s of aswell corbyn would be so proud of you lol Hold on. What the actual fuck? Do you really think that people who understand some of the impact of brexit are slagging off the country simply by discussing it. Blimey." read some of your post a few up mate domes you up there your words not mine | |||
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"Illegal under international law apparently, but, the Tories haven't much problem breaking the law It won’t happen, it is just a gimmick by Boris to appease the racists , they are so easy to fool Racists? Why bring race in to it? Because thats his go to line haven't you noticed?yes anytime you disagree with them they Chuck the race card in and totally devalue racism To the three of you; Should Ukrainians be provided a special route to asylum not available to others? A route that was closed to Syrians, for instance? Closing down legitimate routes to claiming asylum makes people "illegal" immigrants although legally in both international and English law they are not, actually, "illegal". If one group is not privileged then the policy is not racist, it is just nasty and illegal. If one group is privileged then it is racist. It appears to be aimed at coloured people, as most immigration fears are. I seem to remember a photo during the Brexit campaign that was used for campaign purposes... Why on earth would anyone from Syria want to come to this racist infested shithole? Sunlit uplands , Crown stamp on pint glasses. Food banks? Giant lorry parks in Kent maybe? NHS waiting lists? wow look at you two someone calls your country and you jump on it slagging it’s of aswell corbyn would be so proud of you lol I am slagging of the government for letting this happen, do you wear Union Jack under pants he called the U.K. a racist shithole and you joined in and no I don’t wear any and what would be wrong woth that if I did wear them mate ?" Why don’t you wear them? Are you not patriotic enough? You must hate your country | |||
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"Illegal under international law apparently, but, the Tories haven't much problem breaking the law It won’t happen, it is just a gimmick by Boris to appease the racists , they are so easy to fool Racists? Why bring race in to it? Because thats his go to line haven't you noticed?yes anytime you disagree with them they Chuck the race card in and totally devalue racism To the three of you; Should Ukrainians be provided a special route to asylum not available to others? A route that was closed to Syrians, for instance? Closing down legitimate routes to claiming asylum makes people "illegal" immigrants although legally in both international and English law they are not, actually, "illegal". If one group is not privileged then the policy is not racist, it is just nasty and illegal. If one group is privileged then it is racist. It appears to be aimed at coloured people, as most immigration fears are. I seem to remember a photo during the Brexit campaign that was used for campaign purposes... Why on earth would anyone from Syria want to come to this racist infested shithole? Sunlit uplands , Crown stamp on pint glasses. Food banks? Giant lorry parks in Kent maybe? NHS waiting lists? wow look at you two someone calls your country and you jump on it slagging it’s of aswell corbyn would be so proud of you lol I am slagging of the government for letting this happen, do you wear Union Jack under pants he called the U.K. a racist shithole and you joined in and no I don’t wear any and what would be wrong woth that if I did wear them mate ?" Making fun of him calling it a racist shithole by pointing out all the brexit bullshit. Just in case you didn't know. I voted in the interests of the UK and the British people. I want this country to be the best it can be. | |||
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"Illegal under international law apparently, but, the Tories haven't much problem breaking the law It won’t happen, it is just a gimmick by Boris to appease the racists , they are so easy to fool Racists? Why bring race in to it? Because thats his go to line haven't you noticed?yes anytime you disagree with them they Chuck the race card in and totally devalue racism To the three of you; Should Ukrainians be provided a special route to asylum not available to others? A route that was closed to Syrians, for instance? Closing down legitimate routes to claiming asylum makes people "illegal" immigrants although legally in both international and English law they are not, actually, "illegal". If one group is not privileged then the policy is not racist, it is just nasty and illegal. If one group is privileged then it is racist. It appears to be aimed at coloured people, as most immigration fears are. I seem to remember a photo during the Brexit campaign that was used for campaign purposes... Why on earth would anyone from Syria want to come to this racist infested shithole? Sunlit uplands , Crown stamp on pint glasses. Food banks? Giant lorry parks in Kent maybe? NHS waiting lists? wow look at you two someone calls your country and you jump on it slagging it’s of aswell corbyn would be so proud of you lol I am slagging of the government for letting this happen, do you wear Union Jack under pants he called the U.K. a racist shithole and you joined in and no I don’t wear any and what would be wrong woth that if I did wear them mate ?" Who called the UK a racist infested shithole? | |||
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"I see them as pirates as they come aboard un invited. Who do? " Dingy diver's | |||
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"I see them as pirates as they come aboard un invited. Who do? Dingy diver's " Dingy divers?? Is everything ok? | |||
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"Illegal under international law apparently, but, the Tories haven't much problem breaking the law It won’t happen, it is just a gimmick by Boris to appease the racists , they are so easy to fool Racists? Why bring race in to it? Because thats his go to line haven't you noticed?yes anytime you disagree with them they Chuck the race card in and totally devalue racism To the three of you; Should Ukrainians be provided a special route to asylum not available to others? A route that was closed to Syrians, for instance? Closing down legitimate routes to claiming asylum makes people "illegal" immigrants although legally in both international and English law they are not, actually, "illegal". If one group is not privileged then the policy is not racist, it is just nasty and illegal. If one group is privileged then it is racist. It appears to be aimed at coloured people, as most immigration fears are. I seem to remember a photo during the Brexit campaign that was used for campaign purposes... Why on earth would anyone from Syria want to come to this racist infested shithole? Sunlit uplands , Crown stamp on pint glasses. Food banks? Giant lorry parks in Kent maybe? NHS waiting lists? wow look at you two someone calls your country and you jump on it slagging it’s of aswell corbyn would be so proud of you lol I am slagging of the government for letting this happen, do you wear Union Jack under pants he called the U.K. a racist shithole and you joined in and no I don’t wear any and what would be wrong woth that if I did wear them mate ? Who called the UK a racist infested shithole? " that was you fella personally I think it’s a great place to live they must do aswell to risk there poor lives to get here | |||
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"Illegal under international law apparently, but, the Tories haven't much problem breaking the law It won’t happen, it is just a gimmick by Boris to appease the racists , they are so easy to fool Racists? Why bring race in to it? Because thats his go to line haven't you noticed?yes anytime you disagree with them they Chuck the race card in and totally devalue racism To the three of you; Should Ukrainians be provided a special route to asylum not available to others? A route that was closed to Syrians, for instance? Closing down legitimate routes to claiming asylum makes people "illegal" immigrants although legally in both international and English law they are not, actually, "illegal". If one group is not privileged then the policy is not racist, it is just nasty and illegal. If one group is privileged then it is racist. It appears to be aimed at coloured people, as most immigration fears are. I seem to remember a photo during the Brexit campaign that was used for campaign purposes... Why on earth would anyone from Syria want to come to this racist infested shithole? Sunlit uplands , Crown stamp on pint glasses. Food banks? Giant lorry parks in Kent maybe? NHS waiting lists? wow look at you two someone calls your country and you jump on it slagging it’s of aswell corbyn would be so proud of you lol I am slagging of the government for letting this happen, do you wear Union Jack under pants he called the U.K. a racist shithole and you joined in and no I don’t wear any and what would be wrong woth that if I did wear them mate ? Who called the UK a racist infested shithole? that was you fella personally I think it’s a great place to live they must do aswell to risk there poor lives to get here " It was irony. We are one of the most racially tolerant nations on earth and I agree, it’s a great place. | |||
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"Illegal under international law apparently, but, the Tories haven't much problem breaking the law It won’t happen, it is just a gimmick by Boris to appease the racists , they are so easy to fool Racists? Why bring race in to it? Because thats his go to line haven't you noticed?yes anytime you disagree with them they Chuck the race card in and totally devalue racism To the three of you; Should Ukrainians be provided a special route to asylum not available to others? A route that was closed to Syrians, for instance? Closing down legitimate routes to claiming asylum makes people "illegal" immigrants although legally in both international and English law they are not, actually, "illegal". If one group is not privileged then the policy is not racist, it is just nasty and illegal. If one group is privileged then it is racist. It appears to be aimed at coloured people, as most immigration fears are. I seem to remember a photo during the Brexit campaign that was used for campaign purposes... Why on earth would anyone from Syria want to come to this racist infested shithole? Sunlit uplands , Crown stamp on pint glasses. Food banks? Giant lorry parks in Kent maybe? NHS waiting lists? wow look at you two someone calls your country and you jump on it slagging it’s of aswell corbyn would be so proud of you lol I am slagging of the government for letting this happen, do you wear Union Jack under pants he called the U.K. a racist shithole and you joined in and no I don’t wear any and what would be wrong woth that if I did wear them mate ? Who called the UK a racist infested shithole? that was you fella personally I think it’s a great place to live they must do aswell to risk there poor lives to get here " Indeed, this is why they should be welcomed, don’t you think? | |||
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"Illegal under international law apparently, but, the Tories haven't much problem breaking the law It won’t happen, it is just a gimmick by Boris to appease the racists , they are so easy to fool Racists? Why bring race in to it? Because thats his go to line haven't you noticed?yes anytime you disagree with them they Chuck the race card in and totally devalue racism To the three of you; Should Ukrainians be provided a special route to asylum not available to others? A route that was closed to Syrians, for instance? Closing down legitimate routes to claiming asylum makes people "illegal" immigrants although legally in both international and English law they are not, actually, "illegal". If one group is not privileged then the policy is not racist, it is just nasty and illegal. If one group is privileged then it is racist. It appears to be aimed at coloured people, as most immigration fears are. I seem to remember a photo during the Brexit campaign that was used for campaign purposes... Why on earth would anyone from Syria want to come to this racist infested shithole? Sunlit uplands , Crown stamp on pint glasses. Food banks? Giant lorry parks in Kent maybe? NHS waiting lists? wow look at you two someone calls your country and you jump on it slagging it’s of aswell corbyn would be so proud of you lol I am slagging of the government for letting this happen, do you wear Union Jack under pants he called the U.K. a racist shithole and you joined in and no I don’t wear any and what would be wrong woth that if I did wear them mate ? Who called the UK a racist infested shithole? that was you fella personally I think it’s a great place to live they must do aswell to risk there poor lives to get here Indeed, this is why they should be welcomed, don’t you think? " Why don't you give us a number at which point you think it should stop? Or should it continue no matter how many economic migrants decide they have a right to live in any country they want to? Be precise now because being so vehemently pro immigration I'm sure you've done your sums or it could appear that you're just being reckless with the country you were lucky enough to grow up in. Not that I'm suggesting you'd hold this position because it makes you feel good about yourself | |||
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