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"Is there going to be any protests or civil unrests if Boris does not resign? Cost of living going up. Lied about parties Energy prices rising and doing nothing except giving you a loan. Failure to do more for Ukraine refugees. More food banks than ever. Heat or Eat. " No | |||
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"There is little appetite for it As a populace we are largely apathetic " This. Apathetic and happy to sit back and suffer while our leaders only make themselves richer off the backs of us. I don't understand it but that's how it has been for years. | |||
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"There is little appetite for it As a populace we are largely apathetic This. Apathetic and happy to sit back and suffer while our leaders only make themselves richer off the backs of us. I don't understand it but that's how it has been for years. " People are so anti protest in this country it’s unbelievable. We’re just a bunch moaners that are too afraid to actually cause disruption or inconvenience to anyone. Even if it’s for good. | |||
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"There is little appetite for it As a populace we are largely apathetic This. Apathetic and happy to sit back and suffer while our leaders only make themselves richer off the backs of us. I don't understand it but that's how it has been for years. " It's because we arent French. Oh and our revolution was "peaceful". Which meant that all that changed was the monarch while maintaining the status quo of the haves and have nots. | |||
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"The people of this country are far too wet to take any action, and the government knows it. We will piss and moan to each other and on social media but will never stand up and take action. " I beg to differ. Which is why I can’t get any bloody diesel!! | |||
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" People are so anti protest in this country it’s unbelievable. We’re just a bunch moaners that are too afraid to actually cause disruption or inconvenience to anyone. Even if it’s for good. " What about Insulate Britain protesters ? | |||
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"There is little appetite for it As a populace we are largely apathetic This. Apathetic and happy to sit back and suffer while our leaders only make themselves richer off the backs of us. I don't understand it but that's how it has been for years. People are so anti protest in this country it’s unbelievable. We’re just a bunch moaners that are too afraid to actually cause disruption or inconvenience to anyone. Even if it’s for good. " Anyone who actually does fight for their rights is hated for generations after. | |||
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" People are so anti protest in this country it’s unbelievable. We’re just a bunch moaners that are too afraid to actually cause disruption or inconvenience to anyone. Even if it’s for good. What about Insulate Britain protesters ?" Because they're so popular eh? | |||
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" People are so anti protest in this country it’s unbelievable. We’re just a bunch moaners that are too afraid to actually cause disruption or inconvenience to anyone. Even if it’s for good. What about Insulate Britain protesters ?" And look at how they were treated online, in person and in the media. How dare they inconvenience us! Protest isn’t allowed to be disruptive!1!1 My point isn’t that people don’t protest it’s more that mostly as a country, we hate them for it. | |||
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" People are so anti protest in this country it’s unbelievable. We’re just a bunch moaners that are too afraid to actually cause disruption or inconvenience to anyone. Even if it’s for good. What about Insulate Britain protesters ? And look at how they were treated online, in person and in the media. How dare they inconvenience us! Protest isn’t allowed to be disruptive!1!1 My point isn’t that people don’t protest it’s more that mostly as a country, we hate them for it. " thats a bit different tho altho people care about the planet they dont see it hit them directly in there life so have no relatability just annoyance when starving malnourished british children and there familys start freezing and dying in there homes hits the news iv a feeling the reaction of the public will be very very different i dont think it will be protest i think it will be riots | |||
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" People are so anti protest in this country it’s unbelievable. We’re just a bunch moaners that are too afraid to actually cause disruption or inconvenience to anyone. Even if it’s for good. What about Insulate Britain protesters ? And look at how they were treated online, in person and in the media. How dare they inconvenience us! Protest isn’t allowed to be disruptive!1!1 My point isn’t that people don’t protest it’s more that mostly as a country, we hate them for it. thats a bit different tho altho people care about the planet they dont see it hit them directly in there life so have no relatability just annoyance when starving malnourished british children and there familys start freezing and dying in there homes hits the news iv a feeling the reaction of the public will be very very different i dont think it will be protest i think it will be riots " Why does it need to get to the point of kids dying? People have been increasingly struggling to feed their kids for years. Schools are full of malnourished children that teachers are having to feed. People just say "you shouldn't have had them if you can't afford them" or "it's not my job to pay to feed other people's kids". | |||
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" People are so anti protest in this country it’s unbelievable. We’re just a bunch moaners that are too afraid to actually cause disruption or inconvenience to anyone. Even if it’s for good. What about Insulate Britain protesters ? And look at how they were treated online, in person and in the media. How dare they inconvenience us! Protest isn’t allowed to be disruptive!1!1 My point isn’t that people don’t protest it’s more that mostly as a country, we hate them for it. thats a bit different tho altho people care about the planet they dont see it hit them directly in there life so have no relatability just annoyance when starving malnourished british children and there familys start freezing and dying in there homes hits the news iv a feeling the reaction of the public will be very very different " Possibly. But I can think of protests in my (short) lifetime that comes from communities that are in danger and dying. Again the response wasn’t all that warm. Also I think generally as a country we are not necessarily opposed to this government’s policies or of the steps that they’ve taken to get us here. | |||
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" People are so anti protest in this country it’s unbelievable. We’re just a bunch moaners that are too afraid to actually cause disruption or inconvenience to anyone. Even if it’s for good. What about Insulate Britain protesters ? And look at how they were treated online, in person and in the media. How dare they inconvenience us! Protest isn’t allowed to be disruptive!1!1 My point isn’t that people don’t protest it’s more that mostly as a country, we hate them for it. " There is disruptive and there is dangerous. The latter should be removed when any life is put at risk. | |||
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" People are so anti protest in this country it’s unbelievable. We’re just a bunch moaners that are too afraid to actually cause disruption or inconvenience to anyone. Even if it’s for good. What about Insulate Britain protesters ? And look at how they were treated online, in person and in the media. How dare they inconvenience us! Protest isn’t allowed to be disruptive!1!1 My point isn’t that people don’t protest it’s more that mostly as a country, we hate them for it. There is disruptive and there is dangerous. The latter should be removed when any life is put at risk." Of course protest that endangers others can be a problem. Protest is in nature disruptive. Peaceful or not peaceful. But I think most protests that go on in this country when they do go on are safe and at the least always intend to be safe. | |||
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" People are so anti protest in this country it’s unbelievable. We’re just a bunch moaners that are too afraid to actually cause disruption or inconvenience to anyone. Even if it’s for good. What about Insulate Britain protesters ? And look at how they were treated online, in person and in the media. How dare they inconvenience us! Protest isn’t allowed to be disruptive!1!1 My point isn’t that people don’t protest it’s more that mostly as a country, we hate them for it. thats a bit different tho altho people care about the planet they dont see it hit them directly in there life so have no relatability just annoyance when starving malnourished british children and there familys start freezing and dying in there homes hits the news iv a feeling the reaction of the public will be very very different i dont think it will be protest i think it will be riots Why does it need to get to the point of kids dying? People have been increasingly struggling to feed their kids for years. Schools are full of malnourished children that teachers are having to feed. People just say "you shouldn't have had them if you can't afford them" or "it's not my job to pay to feed other people's kids". " it shouldnt have to get to that point but without someone a leader uniting the people out there to act it will take an extreme like that | |||
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" People are so anti protest in this country it’s unbelievable. We’re just a bunch moaners that are too afraid to actually cause disruption or inconvenience to anyone. Even if it’s for good. What about Insulate Britain protesters ? And look at how they were treated online, in person and in the media. How dare they inconvenience us! Protest isn’t allowed to be disruptive!1!1 My point isn’t that people don’t protest it’s more that mostly as a country, we hate them for it. thats a bit different tho altho people care about the planet they dont see it hit them directly in there life so have no relatability just annoyance when starving malnourished british children and there familys start freezing and dying in there homes hits the news iv a feeling the reaction of the public will be very very different Possibly. But I can think of protests in my (short) lifetime that comes from communities that are in danger and dying. Again the response wasn’t all that warm. Also I think generally as a country we are not necessarily opposed to this government’s policies or of the steps that they’ve taken to get us here. " the world and stress we have all had to go thru the last few years makes peoples reactions far more hard to read desperate people act out of desperation | |||
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"Putin is going to start bombing Finland soon. Boris and his parties are pretty irrelevant. " really wtf | |||
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"What Boris and other in the party at the party did was wrong. He deserves to be fined and pay a larger fine than Joe Public. But I am sure there were gatherings/meetings/parties within the Labour party over the same time span which have never been investigated for whatever reason. Also I am sure these parties at Downing Street would not have gone ahead if the police at the gates and/or the doors had done their job properly. Surely they allowed the people into the building." They were probably wearing suits, not party dresses and party hats as they arrived. Police didn't realise the 'c'mon and do the conga' music from the garden wasn't a business meeting. | |||
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"A civil war has been on the horizon for a long time as the gap between the rich and the poor is getting bigger by the day. I have no idea why people are so keen to for Boris to resign, it's not a person problem it's a party problem. Even if he goes he will be replaced by someone cut from exactly the same cloth.. pointless." You actually think people want to a start a war - and presumably kill each other (war being defined as “armed conflict”) - because of a wealth/tax gap between a small percentage of elite earners and the poorest in the country? I see civil unrest everywhere - people are deeply unhappy and frustrated and tend to take it out on others. But I don’t see a civil war happening. “Why did you start killing people who didn’t vote for the same the same as you?” “Because they pay less tax than I think they should and I Siri agree with their politics”. Would make a good film. | |||
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"Putin is going to start bombing Finland soon. Boris and his parties are pretty irrelevant. " But Boris and his party’s policies are not- and I think that’s something worthy of civil unrest. | |||
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"What Boris and other in the party at the party did was wrong. He deserves to be fined and pay a larger fine than Joe Public. But I am sure there were gatherings/meetings/parties within the Labour party over the same time span which have never been investigated for whatever reason. Also I am sure these parties at Downing Street would not have gone ahead if the police at the gates and/or the doors had done their job properly. Surely they allowed the people into the building. They were probably wearing suits, not party dresses and party hats as they arrived. Police didn't realise the 'c'mon and do the conga' music from the garden wasn't a business meeting." | |||
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"A civil war has been on the horizon for a long time as the gap between the rich and the poor is getting bigger by the day. I have no idea why people are so keen to for Boris to resign, it's not a person problem it's a party problem. Even if he goes he will be replaced by someone cut from exactly the same cloth.. pointless. You actually think people want to a start a war - and presumably kill each other (war being defined as “armed conflict”) - because of a wealth/tax gap between a small percentage of elite earners and the poorest in the country? I see civil unrest everywhere - people are deeply unhappy and frustrated and tend to take it out on others. But I don’t see a civil war happening. “Why did you start killing people who didn’t vote for the same the same as you?” “Because they pay less tax than I think they should and I Siri agree with their politics”. Would make a good film. " cloth.. pointless." You actually think people want to a start a war - and presumably kill each other (war being defined as “armed conflict”) - because of a wealth/tax gap between a small percentage of elite earners and the poorest in the country? I see civil unrest everywhere - people are deeply unhappy and frustrated and tend to take it out on others. But I don’t see a civil war happening. “Why did you start killing people who didn’t vote for the same tax system as you?” “Because they pay less tax than I think they should and I dont agree with their politics”. Would make a good film. | |||
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"Is there going to be any protests or civil unrests if Boris does not resign? Cost of living going up. Lied about parties Energy prices rising and doing nothing except giving you a loan. Failure to do more for Ukraine refugees. More food banks than ever. Heat or Eat. " Some of those things "he" has no control for or of. Just cheap shots blaming someone for everything that's not satisfactory. Some the govt does squarely own. I'm not an advocate of civil unrest, certainly not for a few cheese and glasses of wine. But I do think he needs to go and there needs to be a unity govt. Neither political party seem to have any values beyond what's in today's twitter headline ratings. But between the both of them they should be able to scrape up enough competent politicians. The current lot have had some huge issues to deal with and at almost every turn come up short. Hating people isn't the answer though. Seeing some engagement and passion back in the political process can only be a good thing though. | |||
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"Is there going to be any protests or civil unrests if Boris does not resign? Cost of living going up. Lied about parties Energy prices rising and doing nothing except giving you a loan. Failure to do more for Ukraine refugees. More food banks than ever. Heat or Eat. " Quick thoughts. Cost of living going up = Fuel and the effect of covid that reduced production. Wait till October, farmers planted far less food this year and the Oct harvest will be well down resulting in high prices. Lied about parties = HA! ALL politicians lie. Time to get used to it. Energy prices rising and doing nothing except giving you a loan = They are going up world wide and are likely to do so for a while. Governments don't have their own money, they have our money. Failure to do more for Ukraine refugees = The Cons got Brexit on the back of restricting immigration. What else do you expect? More food banks than ever = Private people doing good. No doubt the Cons are looking for ways to tax them. Heat or Eat = For many that has been a way of life for a long while. We should support the most needy. | |||
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"Putin is going to start bombing Finland soon. Boris and his parties are pretty irrelevant. " Very unlikely. There’s no reason for him to do that. Not only is bombing a nation pointless without the intention of invading, invading Finland would be a disaster for putin much like it was in WW2 Finland has the biggest artillery array in Europe for a reason. The terrain of the country makes it almost impenetrable by ground forces | |||
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"Putin is going to start bombing Finland soon. Boris and his parties are pretty irrelevant. Very unlikely. There’s no reason for him to do that. Not only is bombing a nation pointless without the intention of invading, invading Finland would be a disaster for putin much like it was in WW2 Finland has the biggest artillery array in Europe for a reason. The terrain of the country makes it almost impenetrable by ground forces " Don't you think the Russians "warning" to Sweden and Finland about joining NATO is a concern? Given Ukraine's desires to join NATO is one of the main reasons they invaded Ukraine? This has only just started and with India and China providing support not sure how sanctions are going to stop it. | |||
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"The Prime Minister has lied to the Queen, acted illegally in both personal and professional conduct, and now is I believe the first prime minister to be found guilty of a criminal offence while in office. The rule of law, a British innovation, is vital to a society remaining functional. It is but an inconvenience to the current Conservative party. Democracy in this country will die hearing "poor Boris" and "but Labour are bad too!" I thought the British people had standards, values. I was wrong." What is the criminal offence? | |||
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"The Prime Minister has lied to the Queen, acted illegally in both personal and professional conduct, and now is I believe the first prime minister to be found guilty of a criminal offence while in office. The rule of law, a British innovation, is vital to a society remaining functional. It is but an inconvenience to the current Conservative party. Democracy in this country will die hearing "poor Boris" and "but Labour are bad too!" I thought the British people had standards, values. I was wrong. What is the criminal offence? " attending a party he himself made an illegal act hence the fines | |||
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"The Prime Minister has lied to the Queen, acted illegally in both personal and professional conduct, and now is I believe the first prime minister to be found guilty of a criminal offence while in office. The rule of law, a British innovation, is vital to a society remaining functional. It is but an inconvenience to the current Conservative party. Democracy in this country will die hearing "poor Boris" and "but Labour are bad too!" I thought the British people had standards, values. I was wrong. What is the criminal offence? attending a party he himself made an illegal act hence the fines" Isn't that a civil rather than a criminal matter.? | |||
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"Doubtful. The opposition aren’t exactly a great choice either. They’re just sitting back and watching the Tories ruin it for themselves. But there is no real fire or passion in their politics. " This is the underlying problem; we have no truly decent options to choose from. We’re stuck in an essentially two party system (none of our other parties are ever getting into power in their own right), just like the US is and suffer from the “I’m Red/Blue” partisan ideologies that just drives us away from looking objectively at the problems we face. | |||
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"The Prime Minister has lied to the Queen, acted illegally in both personal and professional conduct, and now is I believe the first prime minister to be found guilty of a criminal offence while in office. The rule of law, a British innovation, is vital to a society remaining functional. It is but an inconvenience to the current Conservative party. Democracy in this country will die hearing "poor Boris" and "but Labour are bad too!" I thought the British people had standards, values. I was wrong. What is the criminal offence? " Attending the parties. I've seen several references (alas my quick scrolling habits) saying that this has never happened before in British history. Given the potential follow up police had for lockdown offences, they attracted criminal procedure - which, by strict definition, makes them crimes. But people seem to be ok with this. | |||
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"The Prime Minister has lied to the Queen, acted illegally in both personal and professional conduct, and now is I believe the first prime minister to be found guilty of a criminal offence while in office. The rule of law, a British innovation, is vital to a society remaining functional. It is but an inconvenience to the current Conservative party. Democracy in this country will die hearing "poor Boris" and "but Labour are bad too!" I thought the British people had standards, values. I was wrong. What is the criminal offence? attending a party he himself made an illegal act hence the fines Isn't that a civil rather than a criminal matter.? " Cuz that's totes better even if it's true A government that does not respect that the law applies to them too - and is willing to display that so brazenly over something so trivial as fucking Christmas parties - is dangerous. | |||
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"Putin is going to start bombing Finland soon. Boris and his parties are pretty irrelevant. Very unlikely. There’s no reason for him to do that. Not only is bombing a nation pointless without the intention of invading, invading Finland would be a disaster for putin much like it was in WW2 Finland has the biggest artillery array in Europe for a reason. The terrain of the country makes it almost impenetrable by ground forces Don't you think the Russians "warning" to Sweden and Finland about joining NATO is a concern? Given Ukraine's desires to join NATO is one of the main reasons they invaded Ukraine? This has only just started and with India and China providing support not sure how sanctions are going to stop it. " I don’t think it is personally. Don’t wanna get too off topic. But I think putin wanted in Ukraine anyways. He won’t touch Finland or Sweden. And he 100% won’t open up a new front line with a country that would dominate any attempt at an invasion | |||
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"Putin is going to start bombing Finland soon. Boris and his parties are pretty irrelevant. Very unlikely. There’s no reason for him to do that. Not only is bombing a nation pointless without the intention of invading, invading Finland would be a disaster for putin much like it was in WW2 Finland has the biggest artillery array in Europe for a reason. The terrain of the country makes it almost impenetrable by ground forces Don't you think the Russians "warning" to Sweden and Finland about joining NATO is a concern? Given Ukraine's desires to join NATO is one of the main reasons they invaded Ukraine? This has only just started and with India and China providing support not sure how sanctions are going to stop it. I don’t think it is personally. Don’t wanna get too off topic. But I think putin wanted in Ukraine anyways. He won’t touch Finland or Sweden. And he 100% won’t open up a new front line with a country that would dominate any attempt at an invasion " His unhinged wank fantasy pretending to be history seems to indicate that he wants the Russian empire back. That'd certainly include Finland | |||
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"Putin is going to start bombing Finland soon. Boris and his parties are pretty irrelevant. Very unlikely. There’s no reason for him to do that. Not only is bombing a nation pointless without the intention of invading, invading Finland would be a disaster for putin much like it was in WW2 Finland has the biggest artillery array in Europe for a reason. The terrain of the country makes it almost impenetrable by ground forces Don't you think the Russians "warning" to Sweden and Finland about joining NATO is a concern? Given Ukraine's desires to join NATO is one of the main reasons they invaded Ukraine? This has only just started and with India and China providing support not sure how sanctions are going to stop it. I don’t think it is personally. Don’t wanna get too off topic. But I think putin wanted in Ukraine anyways. He won’t touch Finland or Sweden. And he 100% won’t open up a new front line with a country that would dominate any attempt at an invasion His unhinged wank fantasy pretending to be history seems to indicate that he wants the Russian empire back. That'd certainly include Finland " And he’ll leave it as a fantasy knowing he can’t do to Finland what he’s trying to do to Ukraine You’d have to be stupid to open another front line with Finland | |||
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"I'd like to think there would be, but apathy is rife right now. I remember the Poll Tax riots, back then people didn't take no crap. We need to be nore like the French, got them a 4% cap on fuel rises." D’ya not think that had more to do with the fact that the French are just about to go to the polls? | |||
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"Putin is going to start bombing Finland soon. Boris and his parties are pretty irrelevant. Very unlikely. There’s no reason for him to do that. Not only is bombing a nation pointless without the intention of invading, invading Finland would be a disaster for putin much like it was in WW2 Finland has the biggest artillery array in Europe for a reason. The terrain of the country makes it almost impenetrable by ground forces Don't you think the Russians "warning" to Sweden and Finland about joining NATO is a concern? Given Ukraine's desires to join NATO is one of the main reasons they invaded Ukraine? This has only just started and with India and China providing support not sure how sanctions are going to stop it. I don’t think it is personally. Don’t wanna get too off topic. But I think putin wanted in Ukraine anyways. He won’t touch Finland or Sweden. And he 100% won’t open up a new front line with a country that would dominate any attempt at an invasion His unhinged wank fantasy pretending to be history seems to indicate that he wants the Russian empire back. That'd certainly include Finland And he’ll leave it as a fantasy knowing he can’t do to Finland what he’s trying to do to Ukraine You’d have to be stupid to open another front line with Finland " I'm not sure he'll back down that easily, the realities of his situation be damned. But we will see. | |||
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"The Prime Minister has lied to the Queen, acted illegally in both personal and professional conduct, and now is I believe the first prime minister to be found guilty of a criminal offence while in office. The rule of law, a British innovation, is vital to a society remaining functional. It is but an inconvenience to the current Conservative party. Democracy in this country will die hearing "poor Boris" and "but Labour are bad too!" I thought the British people had standards, values. I was wrong. What is the criminal offence? attending a party he himself made an illegal act hence the fines Isn't that a civil rather than a criminal matter.? Cuz that's totes better even if it's true A government that does not respect that the law applies to them too - and is willing to display that so brazenly over something so trivial as fucking Christmas parties - is dangerous." Absoutely this, plus the baying MPs from his side who made a fuss about others breaking rules and demanding resignations who now don't like it applies to them, is quite ironic and it'd be laughable if this was funny. Even the Queen stuck to the rules when burying her husband! I'm no royalist, but credit where it's due! He has to go and so do all the others who have been fined. | |||
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" France has been protesting for weeks and not seen nearly the decrease in living standards we have" Not only have the French got loads of nuclear and hydro electricity but they are also fleecing us mugs by owning most of our electricity industry. What a joke. | |||
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"The Prime Minister has lied to the Queen, acted illegally in both personal and professional conduct, and now is I believe the first prime minister to be found guilty of a criminal offence while in office. The rule of law, a British innovation, is vital to a society remaining functional. It is but an inconvenience to the current Conservative party. Democracy in this country will die hearing "poor Boris" and "but Labour are bad too!" I thought the British people had standards, values. I was wrong. What is the criminal offence? attending a party he himself made an illegal act hence the fines Isn't that a civil rather than a criminal matter.? Cuz that's totes better even if it's true A government that does not respect that the law applies to them too - and is willing to display that so brazenly over something so trivial as fucking Christmas parties - is dangerous. Absoutely this, plus the baying MPs from his side who made a fuss about others breaking rules and demanding resignations who now don't like it applies to them, is quite ironic and it'd be laughable if this was funny. Even the Queen stuck to the rules when burying her husband! I'm no royalist, but credit where it's due! He has to go and so do all the others who have been fined." The Queen is actually exempt, legally, from the law. And she followed it out of respect to the British people. I'm also no royalist. I have a lot of respect for her for doing that. The Conservatives claim to respect the monarchy. They show by their actions that they respect the Queen as much as they do our laws. | |||
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" France has been protesting for weeks and not seen nearly the decrease in living standards we have Not only have the French got loads of nuclear and hydro electricity but they are also fleecing us mugs by owning most of our electricity industry. What a joke." Which, of course, is down to the British choosing to sell it. We could put a tax on profits* quite easily, and redistribute it as relief for high fuel prices. But the government chooses not to. * Over a certain amount. So they can suffer being stinking rich rather than filthy stinking rich and maybe British kids can both eat and be warm this winter. | |||
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"I'd like to think there would be, but apathy is rife right now. I remember the Poll Tax riots, back then people didn't take no crap. We need to be nore like the French, got them a 4% cap on fuel rises. D’ya not think that had more to do with the fact that the French are just about to go to the polls? " No, look back at the previous actions with the yellow vests, it wasn't an election then and they managed some concessions. Look at Ukraine in 2014 i think it was, the people died at the hands of their own Police and government orders, to protest their right to get rid of the PM and it worked! they didn't give up at all despite knowing they could pay with their lives. | |||
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"The Prime Minister has lied to the Queen, acted illegally in both personal and professional conduct, and now is I believe the first prime minister to be found guilty of a criminal offence while in office. The rule of law, a British innovation, is vital to a society remaining functional. It is but an inconvenience to the current Conservative party. Democracy in this country will die hearing "poor Boris" and "but Labour are bad too!" I thought the British people had standards, values. I was wrong. What is the criminal offence? attending a party he himself made an illegal act hence the fines Isn't that a civil rather than a criminal matter.? Cuz that's totes better even if it's true A government that does not respect that the law applies to them too - and is willing to display that so brazenly over something so trivial as fucking Christmas parties - is dangerous. Absoutely this, plus the baying MPs from his side who made a fuss about others breaking rules and demanding resignations who now don't like it applies to them, is quite ironic and it'd be laughable if this was funny. Even the Queen stuck to the rules when burying her husband! I'm no royalist, but credit where it's due! He has to go and so do all the others who have been fined. The Queen is actually exempt, legally, from the law. And she followed it out of respect to the British people. I'm also no royalist. I have a lot of respect for her for doing that. The Conservatives claim to respect the monarchy. They show by their actions that they respect the Queen as much as they do our laws. " Him and Moggy actually lied to the Queen, which says it all really. They think they are above everyone, that normal rules don't apply, the entittlement sickens me! | |||
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"The Prime Minister has lied to the Queen, acted illegally in both personal and professional conduct, and now is I believe the first prime minister to be found guilty of a criminal offence while in office. The rule of law, a British innovation, is vital to a society remaining functional. It is but an inconvenience to the current Conservative party. Democracy in this country will die hearing "poor Boris" and "but Labour are bad too!" I thought the British people had standards, values. I was wrong. What is the criminal offence? attending a party he himself made an illegal act hence the fines Isn't that a civil rather than a criminal matter.? Cuz that's totes better even if it's true A government that does not respect that the law applies to them too - and is willing to display that so brazenly over something so trivial as fucking Christmas parties - is dangerous. Absoutely this, plus the baying MPs from his side who made a fuss about others breaking rules and demanding resignations who now don't like it applies to them, is quite ironic and it'd be laughable if this was funny. Even the Queen stuck to the rules when burying her husband! I'm no royalist, but credit where it's due! He has to go and so do all the others who have been fined. The Queen is actually exempt, legally, from the law. And she followed it out of respect to the British people. I'm also no royalist. I have a lot of respect for her for doing that. The Conservatives claim to respect the monarchy. They show by their actions that they respect the Queen as much as they do our laws. Him and Moggy actually lied to the Queen, which says it all really. They think they are above everyone, that normal rules don't apply, the entittlement sickens me!" I'd be even more furious if I were a monarchist. They only respect money and power. | |||
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"Scanned the whole thread and cannot believe (unless I missed it) that nobody has mentioned... Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill https://bills.parliament.uk/bills/2839 You know, the Bill that aims to make noisy or disruptive protest illegal! The Bill that will give Police the power to stop, search and arrest someone carrying anything that may allow them to cause disruption, such as a bicycle chain and padlock. You gotta wonder why this Government really thinks these powers are necessary? " It really doesn't paint a rosy picture, does it? | |||
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"You gotta wonder why this Government really thinks these powers are necessary? " because, as they've claimed during the last two years, they are the party of freedom and civil liberties? | |||
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"You gotta wonder why this Government really thinks these powers are necessary? because, as they've claimed during the last two years, they are the party of freedom and civil liberties? " Just as much as they're the party of law and order | |||
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"Unfortunately this country by and large is shackled in there minds by Serf sydrome noun. a person in a condition of feudal servitude, required to render services to a lord, commonly attached to the lord's land and transferred with it from one owner to another. Always has been, always will be in this country, the class system is entrenched in our lives from crandle to grave " Perhaps you would be happier in a dictatorship like Russia Belarus ect ? | |||
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"Scanned the whole thread and cannot believe (unless I missed it) that nobody has mentioned... Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill https://bills.parliament.uk/bills/2839 You know, the Bill that aims to make noisy or disruptive protest illegal! The Bill that will give Police the power to stop, search and arrest someone carrying anything that may allow them to cause disruption, such as a bicycle chain and padlock. You gotta wonder why this Government really thinks these powers are necessary? " And people like extinction rebellion, stop the oil ect are making a good case for it | |||
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"Unfortunately this country by and large is shackled in there minds by Serf sydrome noun. a person in a condition of feudal servitude, required to render services to a lord, commonly attached to the lord's land and transferred with it from one owner to another. Always has been, always will be in this country, the class system is entrenched in our lives from crandle to grave " Spot on, the majority are door mats that ‘know their place ‘ , forelock tuggers | |||
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"Unfortunately this country by and large is shackled in there minds by Serf sydrome noun. a person in a condition of feudal servitude, required to render services to a lord, commonly attached to the lord's land and transferred with it from one owner to another. Always has been, always will be in this country, the class system is entrenched in our lives from crandle to grave Perhaps you would be happier in a dictatorship like Russia Belarus ect ? " I think strong dissent makes for robust democracy. "Love it or leave" attitudes are what erodes democracy. If this protest law gets through, the penalty for protest will be harsher in the UK than in Russia. But I'm sure that a political party engaged in corruption, ignoring foreign interference, not accepting accountability for crimes, and banning free expression would never happen here. Or if it did, it'd be red white and blue sovereign freedom loving so it doesn't count | |||
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"Scanned the whole thread and cannot believe (unless I missed it) that nobody has mentioned... Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill https://bills.parliament.uk/bills/2839 You know, the Bill that aims to make noisy or disruptive protest illegal! The Bill that will give Police the power to stop, search and arrest someone carrying anything that may allow them to cause disruption, such as a bicycle chain and padlock. You gotta wonder why this Government really thinks these powers are necessary? And people like extinction rebellion, stop the oil ect are making a good case for it " They might argue they are as the disruption is exactly the intent to get the issue noticed. I personally think that if their actions are causing danger to life (ie an ambulance cannot refuel) then that is indeed a step too far. Inconveniencing people not so! I marched against Blair & Bush’s illegal war in Iraq. Around a million of us marched along Piccadilly and into Hyde Park. Lots and lots of noise and disruption. If the Police etc Bill gets through, we would now be criminalised! For marching, blocking traffic, waving banners and shouting. | |||
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"Ah interpretation is a wonderful thing. The factsheet tries to paint such a benign image but the key element in all of it is that decisions about noise or disruption are at the discretion of the senior attending police officer. Just watch that interpretation get warped and distorted depending on interpretation and circumstances. " The sky is falling, and the conspiracies are everywhere - Obviously. Oh! And no they are not - they have to fit into quite a tight legal framework. | |||
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"Is there going to be any protests or civil unrests if Boris does not resign? Cost of living going up. Lied about parties Energy prices rising and doing nothing except giving you a loan. Failure to do more for Ukraine refugees. More food banks than ever. Heat or Eat. " Don't see why there would be civil unrest. This is what people voted for. The majority want this behaviour from the government. | |||
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"Rubber bullets and water cannons should be used on all those filthy protestors. " What about the clean protestors? | |||
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"Rubber bullets and water cannons should be used on all those filthy protestors. " They had to sell the water canons that Boris bought when he was mayor, is this for all protestors? Or just the ones you don’t agree with? | |||
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"Rubber bullets and water cannons should be used on all those filthy protestors. What about the clean protestors?" They are ok, it is only the dirty ones that need shooting, apparently | |||
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"Is there going to be any protests or civil unrests if Boris does not resign? Cost of living going up. Lied about parties Energy prices rising and doing nothing except giving you a loan. Failure to do more for Ukraine refugees. More food banks than ever. Heat or Eat. Don't see why there would be civil unrest. This is what people voted for. The majority want this behaviour from the government." And that's part of the issue isn't it? I don't think many people understand what democracy is in this country, participating in it, and respecting its outcomes. 14m people voted Conservative at the last election out of a population of something like 65m. That's about 22 percent. Only 47 percent of 18 to 24 year olds actually voted at all. I admire the direct action that the French take every year. We need people to be engaged and passionate about our/their politics in this country. The more invested we all are the better the outcome. We also need better quality politicians, with conviction and values. | |||
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"Is there going to be any protests or civil unrests if Boris does not resign? Cost of living going up. Lied about parties Energy prices rising and doing nothing except giving you a loan. Failure to do more for Ukraine refugees. More food banks than ever. Heat or Eat. Don't see why there would be civil unrest. This is what people voted for. The majority want this behaviour from the government." It would appear so, and isn't that depressing. | |||
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"Is there going to be any protests or civil unrests if Boris does not resign? Cost of living going up. Lied about parties Energy prices rising and doing nothing except giving you a loan. Failure to do more for Ukraine refugees. More food banks than ever. Heat or Eat. Don't see why there would be civil unrest. This is what people voted for. The majority want this behaviour from the government. And that's part of the issue isn't it? I don't think many people understand what democracy is in this country, participating in it, and respecting its outcomes. 14m people voted Conservative at the last election out of a population of something like 65m. That's about 22 percent. Only 47 percent of 18 to 24 year olds actually voted at all. I admire the direct action that the French take every year. We need people to be engaged and passionate about our/their politics in this country. The more invested we all are the better the outcome. We also need better quality politicians, with conviction and values. " Don't mean to be picky, lol - but . . . The total number of UK Parliamentary electoral registrations in December 2019 was 47,074,800. I agree - voting should be compulsory. | |||
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"Is there going to be any protests or civil unrests if Boris does not resign? Cost of living going up. Lied about parties Energy prices rising and doing nothing except giving you a loan. Failure to do more for Ukraine refugees. More food banks than ever. Heat or Eat. Don't see why there would be civil unrest. This is what people voted for. The majority want this behaviour from the government. And that's part of the issue isn't it? I don't think many people understand what democracy is in this country, participating in it, and respecting its outcomes. 14m people voted Conservative at the last election out of a population of something like 65m. That's about 22 percent. Only 47 percent of 18 to 24 year olds actually voted at all. I admire the direct action that the French take every year. We need people to be engaged and passionate about our/their politics in this country. The more invested we all are the better the outcome. We also need better quality politicians, with conviction and values. Don't mean to be picky, lol - but . . . The total number of UK Parliamentary electoral registrations in December 2019 was 47,074,800. I agree - voting should be compulsory. " No I get that, and it's why I specifically said population. As I think "democracy" whatever and however we choose to define that, is something for the entire population and not just a subset of the population. But even taking the registered voters as you state... 47m... Then it's a far stretch to say that the 14m (about 30%) who voted Conservative make up a majority of that 47m... And further, I can't imagine very many of that 30 %, who voted that way in 2019 are very impressed with the way things are going. They should be able to "feedback" and if that takes the form of effective protests then so be it. | |||
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"Is there going to be any protests or civil unrests if Boris does not resign? Cost of living going up. Lied about parties Energy prices rising and doing nothing except giving you a loan. Failure to do more for Ukraine refugees. More food banks than ever. Heat or Eat. Don't see why there would be civil unrest. This is what people voted for. The majority want this behaviour from the government. And that's part of the issue isn't it? I don't think many people understand what democracy is in this country, participating in it, and respecting its outcomes. 14m people voted Conservative at the last election out of a population of something like 65m. That's about 22 percent. Only 47 percent of 18 to 24 year olds actually voted at all. I admire the direct action that the French take every year. We need people to be engaged and passionate about our/their politics in this country. The more invested we all are the better the outcome. We also need better quality politicians, with conviction and values. " I agree with all of this. I don't know why there is so much apathy towards politics and voting. | |||
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"A civil war has been on the horizon for a long time as the gap between the rich and the poor is getting bigger by the day. I have no idea why people are so keen to for Boris to resign, it's not a person problem it's a party problem. Even if he goes he will be replaced by someone cut from exactly the same cloth.. pointless." | |||
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"It is amazing how people not only celebrate the restrictions on protesting against the state, but actually get angry at people who don't like it. The right to protest is an essential part of democracy." But the right to stop others from getting on with life is not | |||
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"Rubber bullets and water cannons should be used on all those filthy protestors. " Sadly those protesting are just totally selfish anf do not care about anyone but themselves. I agree entirely with your sentiments . Maybe the rubber bullets should be replaced with real bullets . It would be interesting to see how many of them would be so keen to glue themselves to the railings then or how many members of the public would be in the slightest bit bothered if the police used any degree of force necessary to bring the situation under control . Imagine what would happen to them if they were to behave in a similar fashion in Russia . | |||
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"It is amazing how people not only celebrate the restrictions on protesting against the state, but actually get angry at people who don't like it. The right to protest is an essential part of democracy. But the right to stop others from getting on with life is not " What is ‘getting on with life’ ? | |||
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"Rubber bullets and water cannons should be used on all those filthy protestors. Sadly those protesting are just totally selfish anf do not care about anyone but themselves. I agree entirely with your sentiments . Maybe the rubber bullets should be replaced with real bullets . It would be interesting to see how many of them would be so keen to glue themselves to the railings then or how many members of the public would be in the slightest bit bothered if the police used any degree of force necessary to bring the situation under control . Imagine what would happen to them if they were to behave in a similar fashion in Russia . " Interesting take Mr Haybail, do you think the suffragette protestors should have been shot? Or those protesting against the war in Iraq? | |||
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"Except NOBODY is being shot or has been shot " Can you read? Our hay making friend was advocating shooting protestors, he is such a card | |||
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"Except NOBODY is being shot or has been shot Can you read? Our hay making friend was advocating shooting protestors, he is such a card " Who was talking to you? | |||
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"Except NOBODY is being shot or has been shot Can you read? Our hay making friend was advocating shooting protestors, he is such a card Who was talking to you? " Try and keep up with the thread, otherwise it makes you look a bit silly | |||
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"Except NOBODY is being shot or has been shot Can you read? Our hay making friend was advocating shooting protestors, he is such a card Who was talking to you? Try and keep up with the thread, otherwise it makes you look a bit silly " I was talking to haymaker duh | |||
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"Except NOBODY is being shot or has been shot Can you read? Our hay making friend was advocating shooting protestors, he is such a card Who was talking to you? Try and keep up with the thread, otherwise it makes you look a bit silly I was talking to haymaker duh" Try using the quotes, they aren’t difficult , otherwise your just shouting non sense at no one | |||
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"Rubber bullets and water cannons should be used on all those filthy protestors. Sadly those protesting are just totally selfish anf do not care about anyone but themselves. I agree entirely with your sentiments . Maybe the rubber bullets should be replaced with real bullets . It would be interesting to see how many of them would be so keen to glue themselves to the railings then or how many members of the public would be in the slightest bit bothered if the police used any degree of force necessary to bring the situation under control . Imagine what would happen to them if they were to behave in a similar fashion in Russia . Interesting take Mr Haybail, do you think the suffragette protestors should have been shot? Or those protesting against the war in Iraq? " . Who said anything about people being shot .Like a lot or people I just want as much force used as necessary in order to remove the protestors . Imagine what would happen to them if they behaved in that manner in Russia | |||
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"Rubber bullets and water cannons should be used on all those filthy protestors. Sadly those protesting are just totally selfish anf do not care about anyone but themselves. I agree entirely with your sentiments . Maybe the rubber bullets should be replaced with real bullets . It would be interesting to see how many of them would be so keen to glue themselves to the railings then or how many members of the public would be in the slightest bit bothered if the police used any degree of force necessary to bring the situation under control . Imagine what would happen to them if they were to behave in a similar fashion in Russia . " I'm not sure that aspiring to have a democracy like Russia is something anybody wants is it really? I think people who are prepared to protest are valuable to the democratic process. Its really important that people are prepared to hold those in charge to account. Take for example the sacking of 800 ferry workers and replacing them with under paid under trained non UK jobs? Is that in anyone's interests? | |||
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"Rubber bullets and water cannons should be used on all those filthy protestors. Sadly those protesting are just totally selfish anf do not care about anyone but themselves. I agree entirely with your sentiments . Maybe the rubber bullets should be replaced with real bullets . It would be interesting to see how many of them would be so keen to glue themselves to the railings then or how many members of the public would be in the slightest bit bothered if the police used any degree of force necessary to bring the situation under control . Imagine what would happen to them if they were to behave in a similar fashion in Russia . Interesting take Mr Haybail, do you think the suffragette protestors should have been shot? Or those protesting against the war in Iraq? . Who said anything about people being shot .Like a lot or people I just want as much force used as necessary in order to remove the protestors . Imagine what would happen to them if they behaved in that manner in Russia " You did. | |||
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"It is amazing how people not only celebrate the restrictions on protesting against the state, but actually get angry at people who don't like it. The right to protest is an essential part of democracy. But the right to stop others from getting on with life is not What is ‘getting on with life’ ? " What you mean like being able to go to world earn a living without the possibility of not being able to get fuel because a bunch of self serving wankers hold everyone to ransom to force people to see things their way Protest is fine what they are doing is not. | |||
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"Rubber bullets and water cannons should be used on all those filthy protestors. Sadly those protesting are just totally selfish anf do not care about anyone but themselves. I agree entirely with your sentiments . Maybe the rubber bullets should be replaced with real bullets . It would be interesting to see how many of them would be so keen to glue themselves to the railings then or how many members of the public would be in the slightest bit bothered if the police used any degree of force necessary to bring the situation under control . Imagine what would happen to them if they were to behave in a similar fashion in Russia . I'm not sure that aspiring to have a democracy like Russia is something anybody wants is it really? I think people who are prepared to protest are valuable to the democratic process. Its really important that people are prepared to hold those in charge to account. Take for example the sacking of 800 ferry workers and replacing them with under paid under trained non UK jobs? Is that in anyone's interests? " In this case the Ferry Operator made a commercial decision over which the government should have no control. With an average redundancy payment of £45000 part of which is tax free I do not see too many P +0 employees complaining . The workers got a good payoff so in this case there is nothing to protest about | |||
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"It is amazing how people not only celebrate the restrictions on protesting against the state, but actually get angry at people who don't like it. The right to protest is an essential part of democracy. But the right to stop others from getting on with life is not What is ‘getting on with life’ ? What you mean like being able to go to world earn a living without the possibility of not being able to get fuel because a bunch of self serving wankers hold everyone to ransom to force people to see things their way Protest is fine what they are doing is not. " Agreed. When people die in traffic queues and ambulant services can't reach a scene. When the Police can't reach the scene of a crime, when nurses and doctors can't attend their appointments or surgeries and hospitals . . . that's 'getting on with life' and in these circumstances sometimes it means people not getting the urgent care they or worse it may mean them dying. | |||
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"It is amazing how people not only celebrate the restrictions on protesting against the state, but actually get angry at people who don't like it. The right to protest is an essential part of democracy. But the right to stop others from getting on with life is not What is ‘getting on with life’ ? What you mean like being able to go to world earn a living without the possibility of not being able to get fuel because a bunch of self serving wankers hold everyone to ransom to force people to see things their way Protest is fine what they are doing is not. Agreed. When people die in traffic queues and ambulant services can't reach a scene. When the Police can't reach the scene of a crime, when nurses and doctors can't attend their appointments or surgeries and hospitals . . . that's 'getting on with life' and in these circumstances sometimes it means people not getting the urgent care they or worse it may mean them dying. " Also I’m self employed and my job is driving, so if by their actions the fuel stops and I cannot get fuel then I can’t work so will not earn a living. No earning means not being able to pay bills buy food feed family ect. Like I said selfish wankers | |||
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"Rubber bullets and water cannons should be used on all those filthy protestors. Sadly those protesting are just totally selfish anf do not care about anyone but themselves. I agree entirely with your sentiments . Maybe the rubber bullets should be replaced with real bullets . It would be interesting to see how many of them would be so keen to glue themselves to the railings then or how many members of the public would be in the slightest bit bothered if the police used any degree of force necessary to bring the situation under control . Imagine what would happen to them if they were to behave in a similar fashion in Russia . Interesting take Mr Haybail, do you think the suffragette protestors should have been shot? Or those protesting against the war in Iraq? . Who said anything about people being shot .Like a lot or people I just want as much force used as necessary in order to remove the protestors . Imagine what would happen to them if they behaved in that manner in Russia " Hello there . I couldn’t give a shit what they do in Russia, why are you making that comparison? | |||
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"It is amazing how people not only celebrate the restrictions on protesting against the state, but actually get angry at people who don't like it. The right to protest is an essential part of democracy. But the right to stop others from getting on with life is not What is ‘getting on with life’ ? What you mean like being able to go to world earn a living without the possibility of not being able to get fuel because a bunch of self serving wankers hold everyone to ransom to force people to see things their way Protest is fine what they are doing is not. Agreed. When people die in traffic queues and ambulant services can't reach a scene. When the Police can't reach the scene of a crime, when nurses and doctors can't attend their appointments or surgeries and hospitals . . . that's 'getting on with life' and in these circumstances sometimes it means people not getting the urgent care they or worse it may mean them dying. Also I’m self employed and my job is driving, so if by their actions the fuel stops and I cannot get fuel then I can’t work so will not earn a living. No earning means not being able to pay bills buy food feed family ect. Like I said selfish wankers " Get a different job, diversify, don’t let a few protesters stop you from eating , where is your ‘Dunkirk spirit ‘ man? | |||
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"It is amazing how people not only celebrate the restrictions on protesting against the state, but actually get angry at people who don't like it. The right to protest is an essential part of democracy. But the right to stop others from getting on with life is not What is ‘getting on with life’ ? What you mean like being able to go to world earn a living without the possibility of not being able to get fuel because a bunch of self serving wankers hold everyone to ransom to force people to see things their way Protest is fine what they are doing is not. Agreed. When people die in traffic queues and ambulant services can't reach a scene. When the Police can't reach the scene of a crime, when nurses and doctors can't attend their appointments or surgeries and hospitals . . . that's 'getting on with life' and in these circumstances sometimes it means people not getting the urgent care they or worse it may mean them dying. " When did any of that happen? | |||
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"Rubber bullets and water cannons should be used on all those filthy protestors. Sadly those protesting are just totally selfish anf do not care about anyone but themselves. I agree entirely with your sentiments . Maybe the rubber bullets should be replaced with real bullets . It would be interesting to see how many of them would be so keen to glue themselves to the railings then or how many members of the public would be in the slightest bit bothered if the police used any degree of force necessary to bring the situation under control . Imagine what would happen to them if they were to behave in a similar fashion in Russia . Interesting take Mr Haybail, do you think the suffragette protestors should have been shot? Or those protesting against the war in Iraq? . Who said anything about people being shot .Like a lot or people I just want as much force used as necessary in order to remove the protestors . Imagine what would happen to them if they behaved in that manner in Russia Hello there . I couldn’t give a shit what they do in Russia, why are you making that comparison? " . Probably because it is a perfect illustration of what would happen to them in other countries. It would be interesting to see if they would be brave enough to go to Russia and protest. | |||
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"It is amazing how people not only celebrate the restrictions on protesting against the state, but actually get angry at people who don't like it. The right to protest is an essential part of democracy. But the right to stop others from getting on with life is not What is ‘getting on with life’ ? What you mean like being able to go to world earn a living without the possibility of not being able to get fuel because a bunch of self serving wankers hold everyone to ransom to force people to see things their way Protest is fine what they are doing is not. Agreed. When people die in traffic queues and ambulant services can't reach a scene. When the Police can't reach the scene of a crime, when nurses and doctors can't attend their appointments or surgeries and hospitals . . . that's 'getting on with life' and in these circumstances sometimes it means people not getting the urgent care they or worse it may mean them dying. Also I’m self employed and my job is driving, so if by their actions the fuel stops and I cannot get fuel then I can’t work so will not earn a living. No earning means not being able to pay bills buy food feed family ect. Like I said selfish wankers Get a different job, diversify, don’t let a few protesters stop you from eating , where is your ‘Dunkirk spirit ‘ man? " Protesters inconvenience everyone , waste money and people could even die if an ambulance cannot get to them on time. Petrol queues are damaging to the economy. | |||
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"Rubber bullets and water cannons should be used on all those filthy protestors. Sadly those protesting are just totally selfish anf do not care about anyone but themselves. I agree entirely with your sentiments . Maybe the rubber bullets should be replaced with real bullets . It would be interesting to see how many of them would be so keen to glue themselves to the railings then or how many members of the public would be in the slightest bit bothered if the police used any degree of force necessary to bring the situation under control . Imagine what would happen to them if they were to behave in a similar fashion in Russia . Interesting take Mr Haybail, do you think the suffragette protestors should have been shot? Or those protesting against the war in Iraq? . Who said anything about people being shot .Like a lot or people I just want as much force used as necessary in order to remove the protestors . Imagine what would happen to them if they behaved in that manner in Russia Hello there . I couldn’t give a shit what they do in Russia, why are you making that comparison? . Probably because it is a perfect illustration of what would happen to them in other countries. It would be interesting to see if they would be brave enough to go to Russia and protest. " Hello there, as I have already stated, I couldn’t give a shit what happens in Russia, do you want us to be a communist nation? | |||
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"It is amazing how people not only celebrate the restrictions on protesting against the state, but actually get angry at people who don't like it. The right to protest is an essential part of democracy. But the right to stop others from getting on with life is not What is ‘getting on with life’ ? What you mean like being able to go to world earn a living without the possibility of not being able to get fuel because a bunch of self serving wankers hold everyone to ransom to force people to see things their way Protest is fine what they are doing is not. Agreed. When people die in traffic queues and ambulant services can't reach a scene. When the Police can't reach the scene of a crime, when nurses and doctors can't attend their appointments or surgeries and hospitals . . . that's 'getting on with life' and in these circumstances sometimes it means people not getting the urgent care they or worse it may mean them dying. Also I’m self employed and my job is driving, so if by their actions the fuel stops and I cannot get fuel then I can’t work so will not earn a living. No earning means not being able to pay bills buy food feed family ect. Like I said selfish wankers Get a different job, diversify, don’t let a few protesters stop you from eating , where is your ‘Dunkirk spirit ‘ man? Protesters inconvenience everyone , waste money and people could even die if an ambulance cannot get to them on time. Petrol queues are damaging to the economy. " Road works cause more road problems, do you want us to be a communist nation | |||
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