FabSwingers.com forum: Boris and mates fined

By *averockrock OP Man
over a year ago

swindon

Is it time to resign? what do you think?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There was a thread this morning about people wanking in work.

He just had a party.

Could have been worse.

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By *kaythen07Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

"There was a thread this morning about people wanking in work.

He just had a party.

Could have been worse."

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By *ryandseeMan
over a year ago

Yorkshire

Everybody will have a different view on this including those that lost loved ones and made huge sacrifices at the time. Most will though appreciate right and wrong and know that there will always be rules for the majority broken by a small minority. Its a shame but that's how the world is. I am leaving them to fight it amongst themselves. I have enough on my plate.

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By *annaBeStrongMan
over a year ago

wokingham

Just a fine? He lied to parliament

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"Is it time to resign? what do you think?"

I think he has to… boris has said all along he didn’t lie to parliament, and now it’s shown that he did

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By *iddlesticksMan
over a year ago

My nan’s spare room.

Him and Richie Sunak will struggle to pay those fixed penalties.

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By *RANDMRSJAECouple
over a year ago

chester

"There was a thread this morning about people wanking in work.

He just had a party.

Could have been worse."

Also, if that’s peoples idea of a party then they’re missing out

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He lies to everybody about everything

You know when he is lying………his lips move

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch

So many were confused by the ‘rules’ as they were bloody confusing at times.

I’m not surprised even those that wrote them broke them, as they couldn’t even get the message consistent when telling the public what to do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

the standards for him have to be higher than the standards for us. He made the rules he broke, and he lied about every step and after every revelation. He shouldn't be sacked, he should walk, how can he have the trust of voters to lead the country, but that would be the right thing to do, so naturally he won't.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There was a thread this morning about people wanking in work.

He just had a party.

Could have been worse."

Johnson set the rules we all had to follow for the good of us all during the pandemic. He then broke those rules and lied about what he'd done over and over again.

This show he doesn't care if others live or die. It also shows he holds us all in utter contempt. Of course he should resign.

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

We live in a country where our Chancellor of the Exchequer facilitates his wifes tax avoidance so I won’t hold my breath.

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By *weetDaNyMan
over a year ago

Swansea

He party when Queen's husband died

He party when 150k people die without saying goodbye.

He party when my father past away and I couldn't go and bury him.

And then he lied, he stole people money, nhs and their decency. He should be prosecuted not forced to resign.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh and Sunak needs to go too. Not jus because of Partygate, but because he's also hopelessly compromised in his position due to certain ... ahem... taxing issues.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is it time to resign? what do you think?"

What's the alternative?

Even if Boris and his mates resign, I do not see another candidate that would run the UK Gov in any other fashion than it already has.

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By *averockrock OP Man
over a year ago

swindon

integrity is lost

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

"Is it time to resign? what do you think?

What's the alternative?

Even if Boris and his mates resign, I do not see another candidate that would run the UK Gov in any other fashion than it already has."

True, it would just be someone that hides their corruption better.

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By *6travellerMan
over a year ago

Tayside, Midlands and Chester

He did not lie to parliament! He said he considered it a work even. Boris did not organise anything, he is a casualty of his stupid wife and her behaviour. How many on here have received driving, fixed penalties, minor traffic offences or other illegal offences. Statistically more than 50 percent of the population has broken a law or other at some time. The pressure upon world leaders at the height of the then unknown covid time was immense and who would not have needed a drink. However, in fairness should Starmer also not get a penalty notice for his booze and pizza event in his office?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There was a thread this morning about people wanking in work.

He just had a party.

Could have been worse.

Johnson set the rules we all had to follow for the good of us all during the pandemic. He then broke those rules and lied about what he'd done over and over again.

This show he doesn't care if others live or die. It also shows he holds us all in utter contempt. Of course he should resign."

Guaranteed every single time that somebody will bite at a sarcastic post.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you boil it down to its simplest, our PM broke the law. He has to resign.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"Is it time to resign? what do you think?

What's the alternative?

Even if Boris and his mates resign, I do not see another candidate that would run the UK Gov in any other fashion than it already has."

Get ready for prime minister Liz truss!!

The juicy thing is that this is a civil offence… if Johnson wants to appeal the fine, and it fails… it then becomes a criminal offence!!!

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

"He did not lie to parliament! He said he considered it a work even. Boris did not organise anything, he is a casualty of his stupid wife and her behaviour. How many on here have received driving, fixed penalties, minor traffic offences or other illegal offences. Statistically more than 50 percent of the population has broken a law or other at some time. The pressure upon world leaders at the height of the then unknown covid time was immense and who would not have needed a drink. However, in fairness should Starmer also not get a penalty notice for his booze and pizza event in his office? "

You know who needed a drink? Doctors and nurses. You know who haven't even been allowed work Christmas parties in December just gone? NHS staff.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Looks like Mrs Johnson's also gonna get fined.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

Also the brilliant thing is that we don’t know which event he has been fined for… bearing in mind they are investigating 16, he could be a multiple offender!

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By *instonandLadyAstorCouple
over a year ago

Not where we seem to be...

"There was a thread this morning about people wanking in work.

He just had a party.

Could have been worse.

Johnson set the rules we all had to follow for the good of us all during the pandemic. He then broke those rules and lied about what he'd done over and over again.

This show he doesn't care if others live or die. It also shows he holds us all in utter contempt. Of course he should resign."

"This show he doesn't care if others live or die" Really?

It shows nothing of the sort.

It shows is he broke the rules, which is nothing to do with him caring about people living or dieing.

Talk about overreaction.

*excludes this man from jury service.

Winston

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

"There was a thread this morning about people wanking in work.

He just had a party.

Could have been worse.

Johnson set the rules we all had to follow for the good of us all during the pandemic. He then broke those rules and lied about what he'd done over and over again.

This show he doesn't care if others live or die. It also shows he holds us all in utter contempt. Of course he should resign.

Guaranteed every single time that somebody will bite at a sarcastic post."

I totally get your point Jonny. It would have been worse if he was also wanking at the parties.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is it time to resign? what do you think?

What's the alternative?

Even if Boris and his mates resign, I do not see another candidate that would run the UK Gov in any other fashion than it already has.

Get ready for prime minister Liz truss!!

The juicy thing is that this is a civil offence… if Johnson wants to appeal the fine, and it fails… it then becomes a criminal offence!!!

It wouldn't make sense for BoJo to appeal the penalty from a marketing standpoint. Then again, it could escalate quickly if he did pay the fine.

What you are going to find now more than ever are GDPR complaints being raised by politicians on a grand scale over the next few years.

If anything, this is on par with the Expense Claim scandal that happened a few years ago. There are going to be a few scapegoats.

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By *ryandseeMan
over a year ago

Yorkshire

People sometimes are totally blinded by political alliances, no matter what party that might be and can't admit to what is right and wrong, decent if you like. I would never let any political alliances colour my opinion of right and wrong. The untold suffering, the loss of hundreds of thousands of lives and the lasting damage that the last couple of years have inflicted so many will always by my only guiding principles in forming an opinion of right and wrong and then will moderate my opinion to take into account extenuating circumstances if any.

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By *tephTV67TV/TS
over a year ago

Cheshire

Next time this Government tells people they can’t go outdoors or see relatives, go to a funeral etc…what do you think the general public will do ?

If you can’t keep to the rules you created, then you can’t dictate them in the future.

He lied to Parliament, he lied to his own party and most importantly he lied to the public.

Time to go Boris and Sunak

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By *aliceWoman
over a year ago

Birmingham

it's very difficult to see what he would have to do to make him think his position was untenable. He had a long record as a liar who thought a different set of rules applied to him long before he was elected PM

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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago

Travelling

Boris is not going to fuck you! Well, not in the way that your fanboying seems to suggest that you want him to.

Plenty of other people could have done with a drink, or seeing their loved ones, being able to go through a stable grievance process but could not because they were told they could not, but it's okay for the big blonde jizz head, who is making the rules so should be following them better than anyone, to do so.

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By *rwhowhatwherewhyMan
over a year ago

Aylesbury

Do much for.keeping politics out of the Lounge

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

Boris is not going to fuck you! Well, not in the way that your fanboying seems to suggest that you want him to.

They also didn't even make it two months in without breaking the laws they set.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"Do much for.keeping politics out of the Lounge

And if it grates you that much close your eyes and pass on by!!!!

This is literally breaking news… people might want to talk about it

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By *otsossieMan
over a year ago

Chesterfield

Politics aside, seems a bit daft to introduce a law then get caught breaking it.

That’s just stupid.

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By *rwhowhatwherewhyMan
over a year ago

Aylesbury

Boris is not going to fuck you! Well, not in the way that your fanboying seems to suggest that you want him to.

They also didn't even make it two months in without breaking the laws they set. "

He don't work for the law, the law works for him

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Boris belong to our exclusive club that burn £50 notes in front of homeless people as an initiation. What a load of horse shit

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Boris is aware of all the facts and he still had a party I wonder why he was thrown to the wolves ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Boris is aware of all the facts and he still had a party I wonder why he was thrown to the wolves ? "

Eh? Johnson is the very opposite of an innocent getting thrown to the wolves.

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By *rwhowhatwherewhyMan
over a year ago

Aylesbury

"Do much for.keeping politics out of the Lounge

And if it grates you that much close your eyes and pass on by!!!!

This is literally breaking news… people might want to talk about it

It doesn't grate, just pointing out that a lot of people were whinging about this a few weeks ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Boris is aware of all the facts and he still had a party I wonder why he was thrown to the wolves ?

Eh? Johnson is the very opposite of an innocent getting thrown to the wolves."
yeah but I wonder why the party came to light nothing in this circus political smoke screen happens by chance it’s all carefully controlled and engineered

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By *asycouple1971Couple
over a year ago

midlands

Boris and Rishi need to leave now.

What has the Country become that a PM can lie and lie and lie and get away with it.

He needs to go or there will be civil unrest.

They have done nothing but help themselves and their friends.

We missed birthdays,funerals,holiday,events,jobs and alot of other big moments for them to ignore the law and rules and stick 2 fingers to us all.

Vote them out. Call a General Election.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"Do much for.keeping politics out of the Lounge

And if it grates you that much close your eyes and pass on by!!!!

This is literally breaking news… people might want to talk about it

It doesn't grate, just pointing out that a lot of people were whinging about this a few weeks ago"

I could always talk about the ongoing New York subway incident if you like…..

If the lounge is supposed to be for everyone, I don’t see why so many people want to turn it into a fluff palace… so much for all arms open

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

You know who needed a drink? Doctors and nurses. You know who haven't even been allowed work Christmas parties in December just gone? NHS staff. "

In fairness people other than NHS staff also work hard.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Boris is aware of all the facts and he still had a party I wonder why he was thrown to the wolves ?

Eh? Johnson is the very opposite of an innocent getting thrown to the wolves. yeah but I wonder why the party came to light nothing in this circus political smoke screen happens by chance it’s all carefully controlled and engineered "

There is often spin + strategy, sure. But there are also fuck ups. Partygate feels like a dam that was just waiting to burst for a long time.

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

You know who needed a drink? Doctors and nurses. You know who haven't even been allowed work Christmas parties in December just gone? NHS staff.

In fairness people other than NHS staff also work hard. "

Did I say they didn't?

Isn't that just more reason that it's insulting to say "but they work hard, they needed a drink" while the rest of us couldn't?

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"Also the brilliant thing is that we don’t know which event he has been fined for… bearing in mind they are investigating 16, he could be a multiple offender!

I'm sure the leaking sieves that are the police service and civil service and no 10 staff will soon be selling it to the press.

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By *agerMorganMan
over a year ago

Canvey Island

He has to resign now, what little credibility he had went out the window.

But no, he’ll survive as always & folk will lap his buffoon antics.

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By *rwhowhatwherewhyMan
over a year ago

Aylesbury

"Do much for.keeping politics out of the Lounge

And if it grates you that much close your eyes and pass on by!!!!

This is literally breaking news… people might want to talk about it

It doesn't grate, just pointing out that a lot of people were whinging about this a few weeks ago

I could always talk about the ongoing New York subway incident if you like…..

If the lounge is supposed to be for everyone, I don’t see why so many people want to turn it into a fluff palace… so much for all arms open "

I agree, I often miss the political discourse as people just dont seem to want to have their beliefs challenged.

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By *inkyInkedBiWoman
over a year ago

"Is it time to resign? what do you think?

What's the alternative?

Even if Boris and his mates resign, I do not see another candidate that would run the UK Gov in any other fashion than it already has."

My grandma could run the Uk better and she’s dead

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

"There was a thread this morning about people wanking in work.

He just had a party.

Could have been worse."

Worse whilst informing/advising as a rule that it's prohibited to engage with others braking the rules he set out for the entire nation couldn't be any worse when people weren't allowed to attend hospital to visit loved ones whom were dying from the virus attend funerals care homes but that's ok smh

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By *inkyInkedBiWoman
over a year ago

Knew there’s be a comment on here somewhere that blamed the woman

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Knew there’s be a comment on here somewhere that blamed the woman"

It was an amazing comment, wasn't it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is it time to resign? what do you think?"

Should have gone already

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By *idnight RamblerMan
over a year ago

Pershore

Pay the fines and move on. We have enough problems as a nation without fretting over wine + cheese parties. Examples : an energy supply deficit, a food supply deficit, a dysfunctional health service.

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

Not sure what all the fuss is about really. People who voted Tory already knew Johnson was a proven liar, they just didn’t mind the fact because they didn’t think his lies affected them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Pay the fines and move on. We have enough problems as a nation without fretting over wine + cheese parties. Examples : an energy supply deficit, a food supply deficit, a dysfunctional health service."

Johnson is now a proven liar + lawbreaker. I suspect many people are a tiny bit unhappy about keeping him as PM.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My brother died during the height of the pandemic and we followed all the rules and had s limited funeral for him with no wake after the service. We did the right thing and my brother was a good man who deserved better, so many family and friends couldn't say goodbye.

What Boris and others issued with these fines have done is spit on his grave as far as I'm concerned, the rules didn't apply them, they were better than him and could do as they wanted. To those who dismiss these fines at Downing Street as trivial, your wrong, very wrong, this is a group of people showing no respect, no self control and an attitude of privileged arrogance.

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By *inkyInkedBiWoman
over a year ago

People aren’t ‘fretting over’ wine and cheese parties - they’re pissed off because the very people who set the rules broke them, while us mere normal folk lost loved ones, couldn’t hug our family members, and majority of us stuck to the rules.

Then they lied about it, over and over, they were only sorry when they got caught.

Same as Sunak and the tax debacle, I’ve been caught I’m sorry!

Couldn’t be more disingenuous if they tried

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By *inkyInkedBiWoman
over a year ago

"My brother died during the height of the pandemic and we followed all the rules and had s limited funeral for him with no wake after the service. We did the right thing and my brother was a good man who deserved better, so many family and friends couldn't say goodbye.

Well said

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By *omer47Man
over a year ago

leigh

There were lots of people partying but are they being forced out there jobs....also if boris goes, who's going to take over?,kia star man?,the man was at the scandle of the Jimmy Saville controversy. He's about as useful as a turd in a swimming pool.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There were lots of people partying but are they being forced out there jobs....also if boris goes, who's going to take over?,kia star man?,the man was at the scandle of the Jimmy Saville controversy. He's about as useful as a turd in a swimming pool. "

How many of those other people were PM? ie the guy who was telling us all not to party?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Totally not true that Sir Keir was embroiled in the Saville decisions. Yet more nasty lies to justify others nasty lies. Shame on you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Totally not true that Sir Keir was embroiled in the Saville decisions. Yet more nasty lies to justify others nasty lies. Shame on you."

Yup it was a right wing smear promoted by certain social media + our awful PM. Yet another example of why Johnson is utterly unfit to be PM.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Totally not true that Sir Keir was embroiled in the Saville decisions. Yet more nasty lies to justify others nasty lies. Shame on you.

Yup it was a right wing smear promoted by certain social media + our awful PM. Yet another example of why Johnson is utterly unfit to be PM."

It's also a bit rich that a man who openly admits he lies too and cheats on his wife has a moral high ground than Sir Keir. Lol

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By *omer47Man
over a year ago

leigh

"Boris and Rishi need to leave now.

What has the Country become that a PM can lie and lie and lie and get away with it.

He needs to go or there will be civil unrest.

They have done nothing but help themselves and their friends.

We missed birthdays,funerals,holiday,events,jobs and alot of other big moments for them to ignore the law and rules and stick 2 fingers to us all.

Vote them out. Call a General Election. "

So you think that labour haven't been doing the same thing for years and years just like the tories and every other MP Have. MPs have been scamming the country for many many years for there high, and sometimes fake expenses,but no one has checked them out until recently.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Boris and Rishi need to leave now.

What has the Country become that a PM can lie and lie and lie and get away with it.

He needs to go or there will be civil unrest.

They have done nothing but help themselves and their friends.

We missed birthdays,funerals,holiday,events,jobs and alot of other big moments for them to ignore the law and rules and stick 2 fingers to us all.

Vote them out. Call a General Election.

Our PM lied + broke the law. It's official. Saying ah what about the others is the oldest + most pathetic way to distract from his wrongdoing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nothing will happen

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By *il sub princessWoman
over a year ago

West Midlands

There's much worse things going on in the world, I really don't give a shit if he had a party

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There's much worse things going on in the world, I really don't give a shit if he had a party

Do you give a shit that the PM broke the law he was telling the rest of us to obey?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Get 10 people whos family member or friend died to crack him in the gob and be done with it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There's much worse things going on in the world, I really don't give a shit if he had a party

I'll take that as an insult to my brother who died and because we followed the rules Boris broke, he had a small funeral and his family, friends couldn't properly say goodbye. You clearly think that's fine. Shame on you.

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By *sylockeWoman
over a year ago

East Anglia

"Is it time to resign? what do you think?"

Absolutely and he can take his mat Rishi with him. What fucking wankers

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

"There's much worse things going on in the world, I really don't give a shit if he had a party

Do you give a shit that the PM broke the law he was telling the rest of us to obey?"

Honestly at this point I feel like he could be a proven nonce and people would still defend him.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There's much worse things going on in the world, I really don't give a shit if he had a party

Do you give a shit that the PM broke the law he was telling the rest of us to obey?

Honestly at this point I feel like he could be a proven nonce and people would still defend him."
probly true

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By *ornucopiaMan
over a year ago

Bexley

We now have a date. The 19th of June 2020. His birthday party.

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By *tephTV67TV/TS
over a year ago

Cheshire

"There's much worse things going on in the world, I really don't give a shit if he had a party

It’s not about a Party, it’s about lies. It’ll also be interesting to see how the Tory party now deal with the scandal.

He potentially has broken the ministerial code, something he has to sign. If they decide to try and brush this under the carpet, next time it could be something a lot bigger and more serious.

If lying to Parliament and the People is no longer punished then we live in a dictatorship not a democracy.

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By *instonandLadyAstorCouple
over a year ago

Not where we seem to be...

"There's much worse things going on in the world, I really don't give a shit if he had a party

Do you give a shit that the PM broke the law he was telling the rest of us to obey?"

Can't speak for anyone else, but I don't.

Someone else's failure to observe the rules is irrelevant to how I observe them.

He's apparently behaved like a dick. That's of no concern of mine.

Same if any other member of any other party broke the rules.

Just makes them hypocrites. I expect our leaders and rule makers to hold themselves to a high standard.

That they don't is no surprise.

Winston

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Only here to say hi to everyone and offer refreshments?

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

How did Boris dare to stand up in parliament and say "guidelines were followed at all times" when they obviously weren't

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By *ibsonsgCouple
over a year ago

New Milton

The man and his bunch of merry incompetent twats should all hold hands and jump off a fucking cliff.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There's much worse things going on in the world, I really don't give a shit if he had a party

Do you give a shit that the PM broke the law he was telling the rest of us to obey?

Can't speak for anyone else, but I don't.

Someone else's failure to observe the rules is irrelevant to how I observe them.

He's apparently behaved like a dick. That's of no concern of mine.

Same if any other member of any other party broke the rules.

Just makes them hypocrites. I expect our leaders and rule makers to hold themselves to a high standard.

That they don't is no surprise.

Winston

Oddly contradictory. You expect our leaders + rulemakers to hold themselves to a high standard, but you don't care when they don't.

Even setting that aside, when the somebody who doesn't obey the law on Covid is the PM, it might affect you. Because many people will use Johnson's lawbreaking as an excuse to act in a similar manner. That can cause more infections and more deaths. Possibly even of people you know.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There's much worse things going on in the world, I really don't give a shit if he had a party

Do you give a shit that the PM broke the law he was telling the rest of us to obey?

Honestly at this point I feel like he could be a proven nonce and people would still defend him."

The die hard tories will , after all they knighted Jimmy Saville

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Who cares

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Who cares "

Smart people?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

(Only a joke. I think a lot of people care because a lot of us actually followed the law while Johnson did not. And a lot of us lost loved ones. So it feels like Johnson was laughing at us the whole time.)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Who cares "

You do, hence why you took the time to read the thread and comment

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

He said he was confident all rules were followed then when asked if he investigated himself he replied yes I investigated myself and can confirm all rules were followed. He lied both to the population and Parliament .

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

It’s getting increasingly hard on social media to spot the satire but well done that was pretty good.

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

Just a reminder of the multi-million £ advertising campaign that was running in the UK during this whole sorry affair.

LOOK THEM IN THE EYES

And tell them you never bend the rules.

Remember those adverts?

Guess who wasn’t taking any notice?

Despicable thieving entitled vermin the lot of them.

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

"There's much worse things going on in the world, I really don't give a shit if he had a party

Its a Shame you don't understand what it feels like when you're unable to visit a dying friend or relative weather in hospital or care home. Attend a funeral sounds pretty naive.... Maybe people should think less about everyone else like robots

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By *lan157Man
over a year ago

a village near Haywards Heath in East Sussex

I thought anyone hosting a party was getting a £10,000 fine ? I can't see how participants get fined but not the host.

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

"I thought anyone hosting a party was getting a £10,000 fine ? I can't see how participants get fined but not the host. "

Very true . Who was the host if a party or gathering was organised?

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By *ity_BoyMan
over a year ago

London

Imagine being so indoctrinated that you begin to defend this clown and his government.

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

On top of all of this businesses suffered so they al should be prosecuted as they knew and on their records like it would be for anyone else

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

Pay the fine move on … “getting on with the job”

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"Imagine being so indoctrinated that you begin to defend this clown and his government.

I haven't seen anyone defending anyone... I've seen people expressing an opinion on the ops question now that the police investigation has been completed.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"Pay the fine move on … “getting on with the job”"

So we have gotten to the point of asking… so how many fine’s does he need to get before he goes?

I think it’s funny people are using the “now is not the time” argument… the french are in the middle of a bloody election!

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

"Pay the fine move on … “getting on with the job”

So we have gotten to the point of asking… so how many fine’s does he need to get before he goes?

I think it’s funny people are using the “now is not the time” argument… the french are in the middle of a bloody election! "
the British parliament held a vote of no confidence in clement Attlee during the second world war when we were actually AT WAR not standing on the sidelines going raa raa raa for the photo opportunity's . but as usual the establishment along with the right wing msm will tell you its not the time .it is the time the time is NOW !

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By *I TwoCouple
over a year ago

PDI 12-26th Nov 24

"Is it time to resign? what do you think?"

Absolutely he has to go

Either he's a liar or he's stupid

Personally I think he's both.

Bye bye Boris

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By *instonandLadyAstorCouple
over a year ago

Not where we seem to be...

"There's much worse things going on in the world, I really don't give a shit if he had a party

Do you give a shit that the PM broke the law he was telling the rest of us to obey?

Can't speak for anyone else, but I don't.

Someone else's failure to observe the rules is irrelevant to how I observe them.

He's apparently behaved like a dick. That's of no concern of mine.

Same if any other member of any other party broke the rules.

Just makes them hypocrites. I expect our leaders and rule makers to hold themselves to a high standard.

That they don't is no surprise.

Winston

Oddly contradictory. You expect our leaders + rulemakers to hold themselves to a high standard, but you don't care when they don't.

Thats not contradictory at all.

If person B chooses to ignore a rule/guideline/law because person A does so, person B is also a fool.

One law rule breaker does not give consent to others to do the same. Anyone who takes that stance is an idiot.

I stopped using the "he did it, so can I" justification long before I'd hit my teens.

Breaking the rules can indeed cause more infections, more deaths. That's why sensible people follow the guidelines and don't lower themselves to the "he did it, so can I" position.

If someone breaks the rules because mop head did, and causes the death of one of my loved ones, guess who I hold responsible?

Winston

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"Pay the fine move on … “getting on with the job”

So we have gotten to the point of asking… so how many fine’s does he need to get before he goes?

I think it’s funny people are using the “now is not the time” argument… the french are in the middle of a bloody election! the British parliament held a vote of no confidence in clement Attlee during the second world war when we were actually AT WAR not standing on the sidelines going raa raa raa for the photo opportunity's . but as usual the establishment along with the right wing msm will tell you its not the time .it is the time the time is NOW !

Maybe keir starmer will call a vote of no confidence.

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By *ornucopiaMan
over a year ago

Bexley

I think it’s funny people are using the “now is not the time” argument… the french are in the middle of a bloody election! "

The cynic in me is wondering if an agreement was reached with the police to wait for a bombproof time like now. They were sitting on it for long enough.

Also, is this just a token gesture issuing a fine for a token event with all other offences to be expiated or can we expect fines being issued for all the other alleged breaches?

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

The fines are being issued in date order so there will be plenty more to come. These fifty fines are all for the second party. The previous 30 were for the first.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"Pay the fine move on … “getting on with the job”

So we have gotten to the point of asking… so how many fine’s does he need to get before he goes?

Maybe keir starmer will call a vote of no confidence. "

He could… he wouldn’t win and the tories would call a 3 line whip on the matter because defeat would bring a general election and the turkeys aren’t voting for Xmas quite yet!!

More likely it will be a coup from within and finally trigger enough letters to the 1922 committee to call a leadership contest

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By *ynonvalleyboyMan
over a year ago

merthyr

It's a FPN, everyone would have investigated been guilty at some point, i obeyed the rules as best I could, i double crewed with someone outside my family bubble, multiple times

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By *ynonvalleyboyMan
over a year ago

merthyr

"It's a FPN, everyone would have investigated been guilty at some point, i obeyed the rules as best I could, i double crewed with someone outside my family bubble, multiple times "

That post was not meant to be inflammatory, my mate works for South Wales Police, during covid he was called to multiple "parties" the base line was engage, educate then enforce. He also said the police on duty would have reported these alledged parties at the time otherwise their integrity would be questioned

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By *ighty_tightyMan
over a year ago

Norfolk/Suffolk

People in a work bubble, stayed at their workplace and had some cheese, some went home. Essentially a smaller amount of people were at the party than were there during working hours.

The party was technically a safer environment than when it was working hours.

Did everyone on this thread follow the rules? I know I didn't.

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

Did everyone on this thread follow the rules? I know I didn't."

I didn't follow the rules. I visited my 83 and 87 year old parents. But I didn't make the rules and I didn't lie about breaking the rules.

And I didn't have a d*unken karaoke party.

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By *ap d Agde HarbourMan
over a year ago

Cap d Agde in May 23 and September 23 Meals in the apartment , horse riding and boat trips

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

We didn’t break the rules

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Line has been drawn now.

You either vote for a liar and a lawbreaker or you don't, no in between, every vote for this guy is accepting that you can commit acts of lawbreaking and you can continue like nothing has happened.

Remember that, because he set this precedent, it will lead to serious repercussions in the future.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"Line has been drawn now.

You either vote for a liar and a lawbreaker or you don't, no in between, every vote for this guy is accepting that you can commit acts of lawbreaking and you can continue like nothing has happened.

Remember that, because he set this precedent, it will lead to serious repercussions in the future. "

I give people more credit than that. People don't break the law just because "someone else broke it". They broke the law and got caught and got fined. And continue just like the other folks who got caught and fined. It's good to see the laws applied to everyone.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"People in a work bubble, stayed at their workplace and had some cheese, some went home. Essentially a smaller amount of people were at the party than were there during working hours.

The party was technically a safer environment than when it was working hours.

Did everyone on this thread follow the rules? I know I didn't."
at least you admit it. That's one up from our man at the top.

If it was safer, it sounds like it was a dumb rule.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Pay the fine move on … “getting on with the job”

So we have gotten to the point of asking… so how many fine’s does he need to get before he goes?

I think it’s funny people are using the “now is not the time” argument… the french are in the middle of a bloody election! "

The we-can't-change-leader-during-a-war people will be shocked to read what happened with Chamberlain during WW2...

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By *ornucopiaMan
over a year ago

Bexley

As the culprits are now saying that they have payed the fine, might we all know how much it was?

Something derisory, no doubt, but we can live in hope that it was a whopper, in keeping with the ones which Boris has told us so far.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As the culprits are now saying that they have payed the fine, might we all know how much it was?

Something derisory, no doubt, but we can live in hope that it was a whopper, in keeping with the ones which Boris has told us so far."

Wouldn't it be fun if Covid fines were a percentage of net worth?

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

"As the culprits are now saying that they have payed the fine, might we all know how much it was?

Something derisory, no doubt, but we can live in hope that it was a whopper, in keeping with the ones which Boris has told us so far."

£50

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We should also be told if Johnson gets a donor to pay his fine. I gather he has form in that sort of area...

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By *ornucopiaMan
over a year ago

Bexley

"As the culprits are now saying that they have payed the fine, might we all know how much it was?

Something derisory, no doubt, but we can live in hope that it was a whopper, in keeping with the ones which Boris has told us so far.

£50"

No alternative of going on a Lying Awareness Course instead, then?

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

£50

No alternative of going on a Lying Awareness Course instead, then?"

Ha ha ha !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As the culprits are now saying that they have payed the fine, might we all know how much it was?

Something derisory, no doubt, but we can live in hope that it was a whopper, in keeping with the ones which Boris has told us so far.

£50

No alternative of going on a Lying Awareness Course instead, then?"

Instead of going, he'd just lie that he'd done the course.

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

"People in a work bubble, stayed at their workplace and had some cheese, some went home. Essentially a smaller amount of people were at the party than were there during working hours.

The party was technically a safer environment than when it was working hours.

Did everyone on this thread follow the rules? I know I didn't."

We weren't allowed to do that. We weren't even allowed to eat lunch together. It was 2 people to the break room at a time on separate tables. One clinic broke the rules and had a Christmas gathering and were disciplined because it came out when it resulted in a covid outbreak among staff.

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By *ornucopiaMan
over a year ago

Bexley

...

No alternative of going on a Lying Awareness Course instead, then?

Instead of going, he'd just lie that he'd done the course."

Nice one!

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

Boris doesn't tell lies. They are "brief errors of judgement"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Has Matt Hancock commented yet?

After all he said it was righr for Ferguson to resign. The rules are there for everyone and deadly serious ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Has Matt Hancock commented yet?

After all he said it was righr for Ferguson to resign. The rules are there for everyone and deadly serious ... "

Here's what he said about an hour ago:

The PM & Chancellor got the big calls right during the pandemic & are now leading the fight against Putin's illegal war in Ukraine

They have rightly apologised. We must now move forwards & get on with delivering for people

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Has Matt Hancock commented yet?

After all he said it was righr for Ferguson to resign. The rules are there for everyone and deadly serious ... "

Yes, he has backed Boris on a tweet

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

ie Hancock is a massive hypocrite. Who coulda guessed?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The responses to Hancock's tweet are... um... not terribly supportive of his words.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Line has been drawn now.

You either vote for a liar and a lawbreaker or you don't, no in between, every vote for this guy is accepting that you can commit acts of lawbreaking and you can continue like nothing has happened.

Remember that, because he set this precedent, it will lead to serious repercussions in the future.

After repeated denials that no law was broken, you forget that also? the cover up? the barefaced lie in the face of visual evidence? The initial refusal of the police to investigate it.

I see people using this as a justification to let him continue, oh well he paid his fine. Well if he was straight and proper, he could have easily admitted this in November.

But he didn't, and all this taxpayers money has been spent on something which was relatively straightforward

His paltry fine is not going to recover that money at all, isn't it?

How much more can a country have to put up with?

Well this decision is going to be decided at the ballot box now. Because I seriously doubt the Conservative party has the actual backbone to do the right thing now, and are so cowardly, they couldn't say boo to him.

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By *ayturners turn hayMan
over a year ago

Wellingborugh

"Line has been drawn now.

You either vote for a liar and a lawbreaker or you don't, no in between, every vote for this guy is accepting that you can commit acts of lawbreaking and you can continue like nothing has happened.

Remember that, because he set this precedent, it will lead to serious repercussions in the future.

After repeated denials that no law was broken, you forget that also? the cover up? the barefaced lie in the face of visual evidence? The initial refusal of the police to investigate it.

I see people using this as a justification to let him continue, oh well he paid his fine. Well if he was straight and proper, he could have easily admitted this in November.

But he didn't, and all this taxpayers money has been spent on something which was relatively straightforward

His paltry fine is not going to recover that money at all, isn't it?

How much more can a country have to put up with?

"
. If you are worried about the cost of the investigation blame those who choose to make a complaint over an entirely trivial matter. Most people would not care or have any interest in whether or not lockdown regulations were breached.

If we wanted a level playing field for investigations we would have to trawl through an enormous amount of video recordings from retail premises and would end up issuing millions of fixed penalty notices . This is hardly the type of society many would want to live in .

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over a year ago

"Line has been drawn now.

You either vote for a liar and a lawbreaker or you don't, no in between, every vote for this guy is accepting that you can commit acts of lawbreaking and you can continue like nothing has happened.

Remember that, because he set this precedent, it will lead to serious repercussions in the future.

After repeated denials that no law was broken, you forget that also? the cover up? the barefaced lie in the face of visual evidence? The initial refusal of the police to investigate it.

I see people using this as a justification to let him continue, oh well he paid his fine. Well if he was straight and proper, he could have easily admitted this in November.

But he didn't, and all this taxpayers money has been spent on something which was relatively straightforward

His paltry fine is not going to recover that money at all, isn't it?

How much more can a country have to put up with?

. If you are worried about the cost of the investigation blame those who choose to make a complaint over an entirely trivial matter. Most people would not care or have any interest in whether or not lockdown regulations were breached.

Yup a pm breaking the law and lying about it is a trivial matter.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Line has been drawn now.

You either vote for a liar and a lawbreaker or you don't, no in between, every vote for this guy is accepting that you can commit acts of lawbreaking and you can continue like nothing has happened.

Remember that, because he set this precedent, it will lead to serious repercussions in the future.

After repeated denials that no law was broken, you forget that also? the cover up? the barefaced lie in the face of visual evidence? The initial refusal of the police to investigate it.

I see people using this as a justification to let him continue, oh well he paid his fine. Well if he was straight and proper, he could have easily admitted this in November.

But he didn't, and all this taxpayers money has been spent on something which was relatively straightforward

His paltry fine is not going to recover that money at all, isn't it?

How much more can a country have to put up with?

PMSL,

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

"Line has been drawn now.

You either vote for a liar and a lawbreaker or you don't, no in between, every vote for this guy is accepting that you can commit acts of lawbreaking and you can continue like nothing has happened.

Remember that, because he set this precedent, it will lead to serious repercussions in the future.

After repeated denials that no law was broken, you forget that also? the cover up? the barefaced lie in the face of visual evidence? The initial refusal of the police to investigate it.

I see people using this as a justification to let him continue, oh well he paid his fine. Well if he was straight and proper, he could have easily admitted this in November.

But he didn't, and all this taxpayers money has been spent on something which was relatively straightforward

His paltry fine is not going to recover that money at all, isn't it?

How much more can a country have to put up with?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Line has been drawn now.

You either vote for a liar and a lawbreaker or you don't, no in between, every vote for this guy is accepting that you can commit acts of lawbreaking and you can continue like nothing has happened.

Remember that, because he set this precedent, it will lead to serious repercussions in the future.

After repeated denials that no law was broken, you forget that also? the cover up? the barefaced lie in the face of visual evidence? The initial refusal of the police to investigate it.

I see people using this as a justification to let him continue, oh well he paid his fine. Well if he was straight and proper, he could have easily admitted this in November.

But he didn't, and all this taxpayers money has been spent on something which was relatively straightforward

His paltry fine is not going to recover that money at all, isn't it?

How much more can a country have to put up with?

Dispute that argument that this some trivial matter, this is a matter of integrity within the highest office, the worst thing is that the rules were agreed by him and he couldn't even follow them himself.

Let's see if this is a trivial matter at the ballot box eh?

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By *ayturners turn hayMan
over a year ago

Wellingborugh

"Line has been drawn now.

You either vote for a liar and a lawbreaker or you don't, no in between, every vote for this guy is accepting that you can commit acts of lawbreaking and you can continue like nothing has happened.

Remember that, because he set this precedent, it will lead to serious repercussions in the future.

After repeated denials that no law was broken, you forget that also? the cover up? the barefaced lie in the face of visual evidence? The initial refusal of the police to investigate it.

I see people using this as a justification to let him continue, oh well he paid his fine. Well if he was straight and proper, he could have easily admitted this in November.

But he didn't, and all this taxpayers money has been spent on something which was relatively straightforward

His paltry fine is not going to recover that money at all, isn't it?

How much more can a country have to put up with?

And there you have the ultimate defender of Boris who can do no wrong. You want to live in a society run by liars and you don’t care about those parents who were told they couldn’t sit with their dying children as it’s not important and in fact it’s only trivia. Your post is truly ignorant and disgusting. "
. It may be ignorant and disgusting to you but many others will take a far more realistic approach. Someone running the country and being held accountable during the crisis is under far more pressure that most people. All the events were in government buildings so it is not as if anyone came to any harm. It seems a bit odd that people are only concerned with whether or not goverment ministers broke the rules but are quite happy to ignore breaches by potentially millions of people. What relevance do the parents of dying children have to Boris being present in a government building. ? Death is very sad and many churches were closed. However a family death is an entirely different concept to a prime minister being in an office during working hours during a time of national crisis.

The Boris haters have no interest in whether or not Covid rules were broken. Their only interest is a vendetta against Boris. They will happily turn a blind eye to many others who broke the rules

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Line has been drawn now.

You either vote for a liar and a lawbreaker or you don't, no in between, every vote for this guy is accepting that you can commit acts of lawbreaking and you can continue like nothing has happened.

Remember that, because he set this precedent, it will lead to serious repercussions in the future.

After repeated denials that no law was broken, you forget that also? the cover up? the barefaced lie in the face of visual evidence? The initial refusal of the police to investigate it.

I see people using this as a justification to let him continue, oh well he paid his fine. Well if he was straight and proper, he could have easily admitted this in November.

But he didn't, and all this taxpayers money has been spent on something which was relatively straightforward

His paltry fine is not going to recover that money at all, isn't it?

How much more can a country have to put up with?

And there you have the ultimate defender of Boris who can do no wrong. You want to live in a society run by liars and you don’t care about those parents who were told they couldn’t sit with their dying children as it’s not important and in fact it’s only trivia. Your post is truly ignorant and disgusting. . It may be ignorant and disgusting to you but many others will take a far more realistic approach. Someone running the country and being held accountable during the crisis is under far more pressure that most people. All the events were in government buildings so it is not as if anyone came to any harm. It seems a bit odd that people are only concerned with whether or not goverment ministers broke the rules but are quite happy to ignore breaches by potentially millions of people. What relevance do the parents of dying children have to Boris being present in a government building. ? Death is very sad and many churches were closed. However a family death is an entirely different concept to a prime minister being in an office during working hours during a time of national crisis.

The Boris haters have no interest in whether or not Covid rules were broken. Their only interest is a vendetta against Boris. They will happily turn a blind eye to many others who broke the rules

Dear god,

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over a year ago

"Line has been drawn now.

You either vote for a liar and a lawbreaker or you don't, no in between, every vote for this guy is accepting that you can commit acts of lawbreaking and you can continue like nothing has happened.

Remember that, because he set this precedent, it will lead to serious repercussions in the future.

After repeated denials that no law was broken, you forget that also? the cover up? the barefaced lie in the face of visual evidence? The initial refusal of the police to investigate it.

I see people using this as a justification to let him continue, oh well he paid his fine. Well if he was straight and proper, he could have easily admitted this in November.

But he didn't, and all this taxpayers money has been spent on something which was relatively straightforward

His paltry fine is not going to recover that money at all, isn't it?

How much more can a country have to put up with?

And there you have the ultimate defender of Boris who can do no wrong. You want to live in a society run by liars and you don’t care about those parents who were told they couldn’t sit with their dying children as it’s not important and in fact it’s only trivia. Your post is truly ignorant and disgusting. . It may be ignorant and disgusting to you but many others will take a far more realistic approach. Someone running the country and being held accountable during the crisis is under far more pressure that most people. All the events were in government buildings so it is not as if anyone came to any harm. It seems a bit odd that people are only concerned with whether or not goverment ministers broke the rules but are quite happy to ignore breaches by potentially millions of people. What relevance do the parents of dying children have to Boris being present in a government building. ? Death is very sad and many churches were closed. However a family death is an entirely different concept to a prime minister being in an office during working hours during a time of national crisis.

The Boris haters have no interest in whether or not Covid rules were broken. Their only interest is a vendetta against Boris. They will happily turn a blind eye to many others who broke the rules

Dear god,

Bot, troll or truly indoctrinated. It's so hard to tell...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Line has been drawn now.

You either vote for a liar and a lawbreaker or you don't, no in between, every vote for this guy is accepting that you can commit acts of lawbreaking and you can continue like nothing has happened.

Remember that, because he set this precedent, it will lead to serious repercussions in the future.

After repeated denials that no law was broken, you forget that also? the cover up? the barefaced lie in the face of visual evidence? The initial refusal of the police to investigate it.

I see people using this as a justification to let him continue, oh well he paid his fine. Well if he was straight and proper, he could have easily admitted this in November.

But he didn't, and all this taxpayers money has been spent on something which was relatively straightforward

His paltry fine is not going to recover that money at all, isn't it?

How much more can a country have to put up with?

And there you have the ultimate defender of Boris who can do no wrong. You want to live in a society run by liars and you don’t care about those parents who were told they couldn’t sit with their dying children as it’s not important and in fact it’s only trivia. Your post is truly ignorant and disgusting. . It may be ignorant and disgusting to you but many others will take a far more realistic approach. Someone running the country and being held accountable during the crisis is under far more pressure that most people. All the events were in government buildings so it is not as if anyone came to any harm. It seems a bit odd that people are only concerned with whether or not goverment ministers broke the rules but are quite happy to ignore breaches by potentially millions of people. What relevance do the parents of dying children have to Boris being present in a government building. ? Death is very sad and many churches were closed. However a family death is an entirely different concept to a prime minister being in an office during working hours during a time of national crisis.

The Boris haters have no interest in whether or not Covid rules were broken. Their only interest is a vendetta against Boris. They will happily turn a blind eye to many others who broke the rules

Dear god,

Bot, troll or truly indoctrinated. It's so hard to tell..."

Definitely a parody, have you seen Sir Micheal Take on Twitter, exactly the same

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

Boris will be expected to receive further charges from the house in being contempt as they'll have a separate mode

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

"Line has been drawn now.

You either vote for a liar and a lawbreaker or you don't, no in between, every vote for this guy is accepting that you can commit acts of lawbreaking and you can continue like nothing has happened.

Remember that, because he set this precedent, it will lead to serious repercussions in the future.

After repeated denials that no law was broken, you forget that also? the cover up? the barefaced lie in the face of visual evidence? The initial refusal of the police to investigate it.

I see people using this as a justification to let him continue, oh well he paid his fine. Well if he was straight and proper, he could have easily admitted this in November.

But he didn't, and all this taxpayers money has been spent on something which was relatively straightforward

His paltry fine is not going to recover that money at all, isn't it?

How much more can a country have to put up with?

And there you have the ultimate defender of Boris who can do no wrong. You want to live in a society run by liars and you don’t care about those parents who were told they couldn’t sit with their dying children as it’s not important and in fact it’s only trivia. Your post is truly ignorant and disgusting. . It may be ignorant and disgusting to you but many others will take a far more realistic approach. Someone running the country and being held accountable during the crisis is under far more pressure that most people. All the events were in government buildings so it is not as if anyone came to any harm. It seems a bit odd that people are only concerned with whether or not goverment ministers broke the rules but are quite happy to ignore breaches by potentially millions of people. What relevance do the parents of dying children have to Boris being present in a government building. ? Death is very sad and many churches were closed. However a family death is an entirely different concept to a prime minister being in an office during working hours during a time of national crisis.

The Boris haters have no interest in whether or not Covid rules were broken. Their only interest is a vendetta against Boris. They will happily turn a blind eye to many others who broke the rules

The ministers broke the rules they wrote and that’s irrelevant! Amazing view!

So being told by Boris sitting in his office and garden with his wine and friends socialising and writing his rules that you cannot visit your dying kids and a colleague of mine could not take his children to see their dying mother was nothing to do with Boris?

You are living in a fantasy world and you trivialisation of the trauma inflicted on so may people by the lying scum bag now in office is the most appalling attitude I’ve ever read on here. Death is sad, how horrendously insulting are you! They died alone in hospital while their families were told the rules are the rules.

You total failure to grasp the relevance just exposes how ignorant you and your views are.

And you’re allowed to vote. How scary.

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By *ayturners turn hayMan
over a year ago

Wellingborugh

"Line has been drawn now.

You either vote for a liar and a lawbreaker or you don't, no in between, every vote for this guy is accepting that you can commit acts of lawbreaking and you can continue like nothing has happened.

Remember that, because he set this precedent, it will lead to serious repercussions in the future.

After repeated denials that no law was broken, you forget that also? the cover up? the barefaced lie in the face of visual evidence? The initial refusal of the police to investigate it.

I see people using this as a justification to let him continue, oh well he paid his fine. Well if he was straight and proper, he could have easily admitted this in November.

But he didn't, and all this taxpayers money has been spent on something which was relatively straightforward

His paltry fine is not going to recover that money at all, isn't it?

How much more can a country have to put up with?

And there you have the ultimate defender of Boris who can do no wrong. You want to live in a society run by liars and you don’t care about those parents who were told they couldn’t sit with their dying children as it’s not important and in fact it’s only trivia. Your post is truly ignorant and disgusting. . It may be ignorant and disgusting to you but many others will take a far more realistic approach. Someone running the country and being held accountable during the crisis is under far more pressure that most people. All the events were in government buildings so it is not as if anyone came to any harm. It seems a bit odd that people are only concerned with whether or not goverment ministers broke the rules but are quite happy to ignore breaches by potentially millions of people. What relevance do the parents of dying children have to Boris being present in a government building. ? Death is very sad and many churches were closed. However a family death is an entirely different concept to a prime minister being in an office during working hours during a time of national crisis.

The Boris haters have no interest in whether or not Covid rules were broken. Their only interest is a vendetta against Boris. They will happily turn a blind eye to many others who broke the rules

The ministers broke the rules they wrote and that’s irrelevant! Amazing view!

You total failure to grasp the relevance just exposes how ignorant you and your views are.

And you’re allowed to vote. How scary.

"
. Maybe before you choose to make assumptions about the dying you should do a more objective analysis. There is no reason to believe that support for Boris as a percentage amongdt the parents of the deceased should be any different to that of the general public. Many will accept that Boris had an incredibly difficult job to do and are hsrdly going to blame him

for imposing restrictions . They would have little interest if he attended a party . You are the person whose chose to mention the deceased in an attempt to score a point. There appear to be quite a few Boris haters who want to accept sympathy on behalf of the deceased . Maybe those with a clear conscience accept that death is inevitable on certain occasions and find it objectionable to use death in order to score points. Boris being present in government buildings has no relation to the the relatives of deceased people being unable to attend funeral .

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By *itzi999Woman
over a year ago

Slough

" It may be ignorant and disgusting to you but many others will take a far more realistic approach. Someone running the country and being held accountable during the crisis is under far more pressure that most people. All the events were in government buildings so it is not as if anyone came to any harm. It seems a bit odd that people are only concerned with whether or not goverment ministers broke the rules but are quite happy to ignore breaches by potentially millions of people. What relevance do the parents of dying children have to Boris being present in a government building. ? Death is very sad and many churches were closed. However a family death is an entirely different concept to a prime minister being in an office during working hours during a time of national crisis.

The Boris haters have no interest in whether or not Covid rules were broken. Their only interest is a vendetta against Boris. They will happily turn a blind eye to many others who broke the rules

Agree wholeheartedly with this

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By *il sub princessWoman
over a year ago

West Midlands

"There's much worse things going on in the world, I really don't give a shit if he had a party

Calm down, no shame here.

Sorry about your brother.

Don't be so judgemental and make my comment about yourself.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You know who needed a drink? Doctors and nurses. You know who haven't even been allowed work Christmas parties in December just gone? NHS staff. "

Absolutely this! NHS staff couldn't even take tea breaks together let alone down bottles of wine!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I lost my mother in law a great lady only 15 people were allowed at her funeral your right it could have been worse.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wonder if most on here who lost people would think the same. Its not about anti tory or anti Boris it's about what's right and wrong.

So you think it's OK for the leader off the nation who made these rules party when we could not Bury our loved ones my mother in law didn't even die off covid yet we couldn't Bury her properly. If you think it's OK this country is more fucked than I thought it was stay safe guys xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When one of my oldest and closest friends died, I had to watch the funeral on zoom. I couldn't be there to comfort + hug his widow. Many people have this sort of story or worse. That's why Johnson's actions are unforgivable.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

Same here… my aunt died in the late April of lockdown 1… I found out via a phone call.. I couldn’t go down to comfort them, I had to watch the funeral service via zoom… I followed the rules! I thought we were all in it together

When my next door neighbour died of covid I wasn’t even allowed to give a hug to his wife!

And this doesn’t matter to boris, and I do wonder how many of support would be that blasé about if it it was one of their own!!

He asked us to make sacrifices…. We did!

He asked us to follow rules…,we did for the greater good!

So what should I think of the person who wrote the rules he couldn’t follow himself? I have nothing but utter contempt that he did it… and then tried to lie about it!!!

If he has any decency he would go

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

"As the culprits are now saying that they have payed the fine, might we all know how much it was?

Something derisory, no doubt, but we can live in hope that it was a whopper, in keeping with the ones which Boris has told us so far.

Wouldn't it be fun if Covid fines were a percentage of net worth? "

Shhh the Tax Payers Alliance (an oxymoron if ever there was one) and the Tufton St Mafia will come out fighting on that one!!!!

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

"Line has been drawn now.

You either vote for a liar and a lawbreaker or you don't, no in between, every vote for this guy is accepting that you can commit acts of lawbreaking and you can continue like nothing has happened.

Remember that, because he set this precedent, it will lead to serious repercussions in the future.

After repeated denials that no law was broken, you forget that also? the cover up? the barefaced lie in the face of visual evidence? The initial refusal of the police to investigate it.

I see people using this as a justification to let him continue, oh well he paid his fine. Well if he was straight and proper, he could have easily admitted this in November.

But he didn't, and all this taxpayers money has been spent on something which was relatively straightforward

His paltry fine is not going to recover that money at all, isn't it?

How much more can a country have to put up with?

And there you have the ultimate defender of Boris who can do no wrong. You want to live in a society run by liars and you don’t care about those parents who were told they couldn’t sit with their dying children as it’s not important and in fact it’s only trivia. Your post is truly ignorant and disgusting. . It may be ignorant and disgusting to you but many others will take a far more realistic approach. Someone running the country and being held accountable during the crisis is under far more pressure that most people. All the events were in government buildings so it is not as if anyone came to any harm. It seems a bit odd that people are only concerned with whether or not goverment ministers broke the rules but are quite happy to ignore breaches by potentially millions of people. What relevance do the parents of dying children have to Boris being present in a government building. ? Death is very sad and many churches were closed. However a family death is an entirely different concept to a prime minister being in an office during working hours during a time of national crisis.

The Boris haters have no interest in whether or not Covid rules were broken. Their only interest is a vendetta against Boris. They will happily turn a blind eye to many others who broke the rules

The ministers broke the rules they wrote and that’s irrelevant! Amazing view!

You total failure to grasp the relevance just exposes how ignorant you and your views are.

And you’re allowed to vote. How scary.

. Maybe before you choose to make assumptions about the dying you should do a more objective analysis. There is no reason to believe that support for Boris as a percentage amongdt the parents of the deceased should be any different to that of the general public. Many will accept that Boris had an incredibly difficult job to do and are hsrdly going to blame him

My colleague who couldn’t take his children to see his wife who was dying because “Boris” made the rules to say he couldn’t while Borus chose not to follow his own rules and chose to have regular drinks parties and you think that’s fine.

As for difficult job, how about those doctors trying to save lives who could stop and have a few drinks or the nurses who couldn’t stop and have cake and have a drink.

Oh and my points scoring friend who had to comfort his young kids alone whilst they wanted to but were not allowed by Boris to see their mum. All you have in regards to sympathy for those and many other children is to say never mind death is inevitable.

Your comments are quite simply disgusting.

You support Boris even when many more people died due to his slow decision making ( select committee) and say well he was busy..

Not too busy to have more than a few parties.. the doctors and nurses would have been too exhausted.

You are truly showing the bias ignorant attitude of a devotee who is too blind to see outside the indoctrination you have fallen for..

As for death is inevitable . It may well be but I’m sure those children and many others would have preferred to have spent the few days they had left with their loved ones. They were not allowed while Boris drank wine with friends. But I’m just scoring points.

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By *eachcplCouple
over a year ago

blackpool/preston/normandy france

He will never resign because he has no sense of responsibility and is a self centred prick. Since the scandal started he consistently lied saying get togethers had never taken place, until evidence emerged that they had, then suddenly he admitted they had but then tried to justify his actions. He does not know what the truth means. He is a disgrace and should go now along with all his other lying mates. Unfortunately the public will not have a say until the next general election and he will be hoping by then everyone will have forgotten about things. That must never be allowed to happen.

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By *ustintime69Man
over a year ago

Bristol

"Line has been drawn now.

You either vote for a liar and a lawbreaker or you don't, no in between, every vote for this guy is accepting that you can commit acts of lawbreaking and you can continue like nothing has happened.

Remember that, because he set this precedent, it will lead to serious repercussions in the future.

After repeated denials that no law was broken, you forget that also? the cover up? the barefaced lie in the face of visual evidence? The initial refusal of the police to investigate it.

I see people using this as a justification to let him continue, oh well he paid his fine. Well if he was straight and proper, he could have easily admitted this in November.

But he didn't, and all this taxpayers money has been spent on something which was relatively straightforward

His paltry fine is not going to recover that money at all, isn't it?

How much more can a country have to put up with?

And there you have the ultimate defender of Boris who can do no wrong. You want to live in a society run by liars and you don’t care about those parents who were told they couldn’t sit with their dying children as it’s not important and in fact it’s only trivia. Your post is truly ignorant and disgusting. . It may be ignorant and disgusting to you but many others will take a far more realistic approach. Someone running the country and being held accountable during the crisis is under far more pressure that most people. All the events were in government buildings so it is not as if anyone came to any harm. It seems a bit odd that people are only concerned with whether or not goverment ministers broke the rules but are quite happy to ignore breaches by potentially millions of people. What relevance do the parents of dying children have to Boris being present in a government building. ? Death is very sad and many churches were closed. However a family death is an entirely different concept to a prime minister being in an office during working hours during a time of national crisis.

The Boris haters have no interest in whether or not Covid rules were broken. Their only interest is a vendetta against Boris. They will happily turn a blind eye to many others who broke the rules

The ministers broke the rules they wrote and that’s irrelevant! Amazing view!

You total failure to grasp the relevance just exposes how ignorant you and your views are.

And you’re allowed to vote. How scary.

As for difficult job, how about those doctors trying to save lives who could stop and have a few drinks or the nurses who couldn’t stop and have cake and have a drink.

Your comments are quite simply disgusting.

You support Boris even when many more people died due to his slow decision making ( select committee) and say well he was busy..

Not too busy to have more than a few parties.. the doctors and nurses would have been too exhausted.

You are truly showing the bias ignorant attitude of a devotee who is too blind to see outside the indoctrination you have fallen for..

Well said

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

The Boris haters have no interest in whether or not Covid rules were broken. Their only interest is a vendetta against Boris. They will happily turn a blind eye to many others who broke the rules

Agree wholeheartedly with this

Of course you do. Certainly consistent.

I wonder if you would feel the same if the PM was Labour?

I bet you were incandescent with rage when Professor Fergusson broke the rules and you agreed with Matt Hancock that Fergusson had to resign?

What about Kinnock? When he broke the rules?

How about those two women who drove to countryside for their one hour exercise but as they had coffees and stopped at a bench, they got fined?

Or the student fined £10k for having a party in his flat?

And what about Dominic Cummings driving hundreds of miles to test his eyes (with wife who can drive and precious kid in car) and stopping at a beauty spot (purely coincidentally on his wife’s birthday)? Were you aligned with BJ in his defence of Cummings at the time? Looks a but silly now with Cummings turning on him!

It’s probably a good job the PM isn’t a Muslim as, based on some of your previous posts, you might have a few things to say about him!

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By *ryandseeMan
over a year ago

Yorkshire

I have just realised why I prefer the cake threads apart from the obvious. Carry on scoring party political points. Simply as a human being, all I can go by is what I think is decent and right. Political alliances will never cloud my judgemen. There may be corrupt parties with decent individuals or vice versa. Every situation should be judged on its own merit and wether it was right or wrong. I will never blindly follow any of them which ever party they are. They are not the messiah, that's for sure. Have fun and a lovely day.

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By *itzi999Woman
over a year ago

Slough

Inside the 9min long No10 ‘birthday party’ with no cake & unopened warm beer which landed Boris Johnson with Covid fine

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/18246926/partygate-inside-downing-street-party?utm_source=sharebar_app&utm_medium=sharebar_app&utm_campaign=sharebar_app_article

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over a year ago

"Inside the 9min long No10 ‘birthday party’ with no cake & unopened warm beer which landed Boris Johnson with Covid fine

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/18246926/partygate-inside-downing-street-party?utm_source=sharebar_app&utm_medium=sharebar_app&utm_campaign=sharebar_app_article"

You're citing the Sun? The tabloid rag used by Murdoch to manipulate the masses? ok...

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

"Inside the 9min long No10 ‘birthday party’ with no cake & unopened warm beer which landed Boris Johnson with Covid fine

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/18246926/partygate-inside-downing-street-party?utm_source=sharebar_app&utm_medium=sharebar_app&utm_campaign=sharebar_app_article

You're citing the Sun? The tabloid rag used by Murdoch to manipulate the masses? ok..."

Wait a minute, there was no cake? Didn’t Boris say he was “ambushed by a [surprise] cake”? So is that yet another lie from him?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Taking Boris on face value, I can only conclude that the rules were so unclear that one could easily accidentally crossed the line.

I do feel for all those who have been fined for similarly breaking the law by accident. I suspect the fine to them hurts more than Boris.

The minimum requirement of a law should be that those who wrote it and passed it understand it. If they can't, who can ?

I'd also expect that anything that restricts my freedoms has a benefit. It appears this rule restricts too much for no reason.

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By *ustintime69Man
over a year ago

Bristol

"Taking Boris on face value, I can only conclude that the rules were so unclear that one could easily accidentally crossed the line.

I do feel for all those who have been fined for similarly breaking the law by accident. I suspect the fine to them hurts more than Boris.

The minimum requirement of a law should be that those who wrote it and passed it understand it. If they can't, who can ?

I'd also expect that anything that restricts my freedoms has a benefit. It appears this rule restricts too much for no reason.

So if you make the law and you don’t understand that you are breaking that law does that make you stupid, a liar or worse?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Taking Boris on face value, I can only conclude that the rules were so unclear that one could easily accidentally crossed the line.

I do feel for all those who have been fined for similarly breaking the law by accident. I suspect the fine to them hurts more than Boris.

The minimum requirement of a law should be that those who wrote it and passed it understand it. If they can't, who can ?

I'd also expect that anything that restricts my freedoms has a benefit. It appears this rule restricts too much for no reason.

So if you make the law and you don’t understand that you are breaking that law does that make you stupid, a liar or worse?"
I'd add incompetent as a law maker.

Either which way, it's hard to not draw a negative conclusion about Boris ability as PM if you believe he is telling the truth.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

"Inside the 9min long No10 ‘birthday party’ with no cake & unopened warm beer which landed Boris Johnson with Covid fine

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/18246926/partygate-inside-downing-street-party?utm_source=sharebar_app&utm_medium=sharebar_app&utm_campaign=sharebar_app_article"

The rules weren't "you can have a get together if it's less than ten mins and no cake"

Many people would have loved 9 minutes with their loved ones during the pandemic.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No, now is not the time for a.leadership contest in the UK. Most politicians are odious self serving cretins and we've never understood why people support one set of cretins over another. You'd think people would realise once they get older but sadly thay doesnt seem to be the case these days.

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan
over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

"No, now is not the time for a.leadership contest in the UK."

why not?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No, now is not the time for a.leadership contest in the UK. Most politicians are odious self serving cretins and we've never understood why people support one set of cretins over another. You'd think people would realise once they get older but sadly thay doesnt seem to be the case these days."

Now is not the time will always be a convenient excuse when people like Johnson don't want to fuck off.

Now is absolutely the time he has to go. At a critical time, it's rather important to have a leader who doesn't lie and break the law.

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

Get outta here, Boris Johnski and Fishi Rishi have to go as I cannot wait for the next episode of the Tory Sitcom, the one where another incompetent like Liz Truss or Gove secure the top jobs. The comedy potential is endless!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Remember when it wasn't the time because we had to wait for the Sue Grey report? And remember when it wasn't the time because we then had to wait for the Met to report their findings? And now it isn't the time because there's a war in Ukraine?

Johnson will always trot out another reason why he can't possibly leave. It never ends.

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan
over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

it wouldn't be surprising if johnski paid his fine from the vast millions he and his party have taken in corrupt bungs over the years from his mutual chums of putin

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

Why only £50 the singer who tried to organise her birthday party in London I believe was fined 10k and those whom attended more than £50

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why only £50 the singer who tried to organise her birthday party in London I believe was fined 10k and those whom attended more than £50"

You can't expect a chap like Johnson to actually pay as much as a pleb. Ignoble thought.

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

It’s not the time.

Winston Churchill was made prime minister whilst we were at war with Germany I’m sure his predecessor said wait now is not the time . Oh no he didn’t because he knew he wasn’t up to the job and put his country’s needs first not his own.

If we can change a prime minister during a direct conflict with another major power the war in Ukraine is definitely not an obstacle.

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan
over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

"Why only £50 the singer who tried to organise her birthday party in London I believe was fined 10k and those whom attended more than £50"

also, students who had smaller gatherings amongst themselves in halls of residence in nottingham got fined £10,000 each.

where is the justice in that scale of punishment when the law makers wilfully defy their own laws and get a £50 amercement.

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

"Why only £50 the singer who tried to organise her birthday party in London I believe was fined 10k and those whom attended more than £50

also, students who had smaller gatherings amongst themselves in halls of residence in nottingham got fined £10,000 each.

where is the justice in that scale of punishment when the law makers wilfully defy their own laws and get a £50 amercement.

Especially as £10k is still pocket change for many MPs yet gor a student that will financially cripple them before they've even started out in life.

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