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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Not a bad start. Looks like it will be boom time for those in energy and civil engineering games.

Shame Governments for the last 20 years have sat on the fence for so long!

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan
over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

it would be economically sound to devolve energy production and it's profits. it would cost the tax payer less too, which should give the far-righties the horn.

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By *ary_ArgyllMan
over a year ago

Argyll

If we'd properly invested in improving building insulation and standards over the last 20 years we'd be wasting a lot less energy now. Seems like the new strategy had very little in it on actually be oming more energy efficient as a country.

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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago

Longridge

All be fixed by 2050..

Awesome plan.. just one little problem, we're about to have gas supply costs go further through the roof or cut completely.

What utter Shite..

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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago

Longridge

If you care about resilience of supply, suggest you make your own plans as the government are hoping to sit in the dark with you..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's also impossible to trust a word this government says. So I wouldn't base anything on their words.

Still waiting on those 40 hospitals Johnson promised.

And the NHS is still waiting on that cash bonanza they were gonna get due to Brexit.

And I'm sure we were all promised lower bills and cheaper food as a result of Brexit too...

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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago

Longridge

How is it in Scotland, you can apply for 0% interest on renewables including Solar, Battery and Insulation.

Yet the rest of the Country, nothing.

At 1am, it's breezy so UK Wind is at 38%, yet 32% is still coming from gas. It is the lowest its been for two weeks but when there is no heavy domestic load on the Grid, it's still too high.

My demand on the Grid: Zero

Although not great Solar yesterday, I'm still running on Battery charge from 2 to 3 days ago and hopefully sunny tomorrow to get recharged and do some washing..

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By *ooo wet tight hornyWoman
over a year ago

lancashire

As we live on a Island surrounded by plenty of water...why are we not making full use of this to make our power?? Surely this can be some thing that's able to be done??

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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago

Longridge

If you've seen the tidal runs in the Menai Straights and the Estuaries in the Seven and Oban, it makes you wonder.

There's enough power in the Thames to turn Worm Screws.. but!!

They had a perfect opportunity a few years ago but government pulled out..

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By *opinovMan
over a year ago

Point Nemo, Cumbria

If we'd actually insulated our homes, adopted lower load appliances and set up our renewable energy generation when we were first advised to, we wouldn't be in this shit street right now.

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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago

Longridge

Just look at the 2 panels on new-builds just to get green credits. They are not worth the roof space.

No new build without bare minimum of 3kw Solar on the roof. I only run the washer if possible on bright days, last year I paid for around 10 wash loads in Winter. Rest of the year its at no Grid.

Last 2 days I have run a 1.2kw air conditioner and 3x 550watt oil heaters during the day for free. This meant boiler only used for 20 mins at night to "top up" at 12kw input at 6p/kw = 30p and 22 degrees.

It is possible but a lot easier at build stage of new houses.

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan
over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

the new energy strategy will increase bills even further and more rapidly.

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

Forgive my ignorance but how easy is it to instal solar and hook up to your house grid?

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol


"Forgive my ignorance but how easy is it to instal solar and hook up to your house grid? "

Expensive if you get it wrong

Also if your not a qualified installer insurance will not pay out when the converter/ rectifier catches fire

And it will take 10 years to get your investment back

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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago

Longridge


"Forgive my ignorance but how easy is it to instal solar and hook up to your house grid?

Expensive if you get it wrong

Also if your not a qualified installer insurance will not pay out when the converter/ rectifier catches fire

And it will take 10 years to get your investment back

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Are you talking from experience or repeating Martin Lewis's crap?

It is very easy, I connected mine as a competent DIY'er. It's straight forward with 100's video's on YouTube - it is completely legal under the Competent Person scheme to dobyour own electrics.

Then paid an electrician to Certify it, otherwise pay the electrician the half a day it takes to connect up.

If used to supplement heating, hot water and use batteries, payback cab be as little as 5 years. Your house will gain value as again, anyone claiming you'll loose out when you sell is talking crap.

The secret with Solar, use every single kw it generates and sell none to the Grid.

Like I've already told you earlier, panels and inverters can be found cheap. At my 345 watt 'baseline', that's £500 per year at todays rates. Then there is the TV, washer, dryer on top of that which I use the equivalent of £1700 per year of which because of winter import, costs me around £350 a year. I also save 80% of the gas uses for hot water which would be £800 in gas, I don't know how much heating it save other than running g the boiler less often and not as long..

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan
over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney


"Forgive my ignorance but how easy is it to instal solar and hook up to your house grid? "

a days work for 2 people. the greater proportion of that time is fixing the brakets to the rafters and fixing the panels to the brackets. a system can be purchased for aprox £1800. the cost of labour is the expensive variable since the cameron government changed the rules to force a market to emerge making installion prohibitively expensive for most households. shame they didn't invest our tax money to roll out solar installs nationwide, we would be insulated from the global energy crisis better than we are currently.

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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago

Longridge

Right now, it is sunny and 2.2kw (equivalent 60p/hour) free electricity is running air conditioning and 2x heaters fir free. Lounge is at a lovely 26 degrees - cold last night and no gas boiler used this morning.

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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago

Longridge


"Forgive my ignorance but how easy is it to instal solar and hook up to your house grid?

a days work for 2 people. the greater proportion of that time is fixing the brakets to the rafters and fixing the panels to the brackets. a system can be purchased for aprox £1800. the cost of labour is the expensive variable since the cameron government changed the rules to force a market to emerge making installion prohibitively expensive for most households. shame they didn't invest our tax money to roll out solar installs nationwide, we would be insulated from the global energy crisis better than we are currently. "

Absolutely spot on - however, a good roofer will fit brackets and panels (mine did for £250) and standard job for an electrician if Zero exporting like myself.

Said it before, 3kwh to 4kwh should have been compulsory on new build for the last 10 years where possible, installation of Air Conditioners at build stage (Heat Pumps), and ground source loop under house foundations prior to concrete being poured. Future proofing them.

If you want export SEG, there are companies that will Certify it for £300. TBH, why export for 6p/kw, electricity they'll resell for up to 56p/kw. It is an insult, therefore all my surplus gets used for battey/hot water.

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

Thank you kindly to who replied

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By *ryandseeMan
over a year ago

Yorkshire


"Right now, it is sunny and 2.2kw (equivalent 60p/hour) free electricity is running air conditioning and 2x heaters fir free. Lounge is at a lovely 26 degrees - cold last night and no gas boiler used this morning."

26 degrees, are you sure you did not mean a sauna?

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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago

Longridge

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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago

Longridge

There's a reason..

Overheat the house during the day, this keeps humidity down and ideal for drying washing in spare room with two dehumidifiers running.

Then the house cools naturally so that around 6pm, it's 22 degrees and 10pm, 19 degrees. Because the plasterboard walls and items in the room are warm, currently around 19 degrees, they store heat and longer for the room to cool.

That way, it avoids the gas heating or at worst, 30 mins boiler run to top up around 9pm.

The house becomes a heat store..

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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago

Longridge

I do the opposite in Summer, run Air Conditioners at full cooling to bring to 16 degrees.

Then house warms up during the evening but still around 18-19 by midnight.

Cool and dry is lovely to sleep in.

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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago

Longridge

Remember the introduction of the term - "Carbon Footprint" in the 90's. Few of us understood what it meant. It was

In 2020, 0.233 kg of CO2e per kWh of electricity and 0.184kg of CO2e per kWh of gas used.

From Tony Blair, Gordon Brown, David Cameron, Teresa May to Biris Johnson. They've all failed to grasp the 1,000s of tonnes of CO2 output every single hour of every single day and continued to allow the burning of gas.

1GW Electricity generated from Gas emits 3,600kg, 3.6 tonnes per hour. We are on average generating between 9GW and 35GW per hour due to failed historic policies by these people.

We have been left vulnerable to supply, we continue to unnecessary damage the planet and will continue to do so until 2050 - can we afford to wait 29 years?

Nuclear is an extremely expensive form of energy compared to Wind, Solar, Hydro and as yet, not even a single turbine I am aware of generating from coastal tidal.

So, what I don't get, is the lack of support for technologies installed at home and on commercial buildings that has no draw on outside sources and once pay-back period is over, provides a substantial amount of FREE energy.

The policies announced this week is still based on consumers buying in a vast quantity of the energy they use and yet, another failure that fails to address immediate issues we face.

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

Manchester


"Remember the introduction of the term - "Carbon Footprint" in the 90's. Few of us understood what it meant. It was

In 2020, 0.233 kg of CO2e per kWh of electricity and 0.184kg of CO2e per kWh of gas used.

From Tony Blair, Gordon Brown, David Cameron, Teresa May to Biris Johnson. They've all failed to grasp the 1,000s of tonnes of CO2 output every single hour of every single day and continued to allow the burning of gas.

1GW Electricity generated from Gas emits 3,600kg, 3.6 tonnes per hour. We are on average generating between 9GW and 35GW per hour due to failed historic policies by these people.

We have been left vulnerable to supply, we continue to unnecessary damage the planet and will continue to do so until 2050 - can we afford to wait 29 years?

Nuclear is an extremely expensive form of energy compared to Wind, Solar, Hydro and as yet, not even a single turbine I am aware of generating from coastal tidal.

So, what I don't get, is the lack of support for technologies installed at home and on commercial buildings that has no draw on outside sources and once pay-back period is over, provides a substantial amount of FREE energy.

The policies announced this week is still based on consumers buying in a vast quantity of the energy they use and yet, another failure that fails to address immediate issues we face."

Politics of public opinion. Governments introduce vote catching tax cuts over the years and an extra few billion here or there for the NHS defence etc which all just tinkers at the edges but makes headlines.

If a government of any colour was tasked to plan a long term strategy in relation to water electricity gas or alternative energy it moves into the too difficult box and definitely not a vote catcher.

Thirty years of water privatisation resulted in £60 billion in dividends for shareholder and last year 400k cases of sewage pumped into our rivers and the sea, THIRTY YEARS TO FIX and yet nothing involving a government strategy other than privatisation is good. Good for who?

Repeat the same with electricity and gas. Like I said too difficult. Look at our roads and rail network to see a similar approach. Whack a mole government.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There are power stations (hinkly point) being built but from pictures I've seen it looks far from complete.

Not sure how many others there are

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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago

Longridge

Hinkley Point not due online until June 26, 4 years away. I am sure it will be welcomed but it does not fix the immediate problem - gas consumption.

I don't see why many even need to buy in power if they were given the means and encouraged to install their own generation.

It's a complete failure.. it just doesn't make sense.

I am currently using 4kw (eqv £1.12 per hour) for heating, boiling kettle, washers's on and watching TV with 20-100 watts going OUT to Grid.

I refuse to export as I find it offensive that its taken for 6p and sold to others on my street for 28p-56p.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hinkley Point not due online until June 26, 4 years away. I am sure it will be welcomed but it does not fix the immediate problem - gas consumption.

I don't see why many even need to buy in power if they were given the means and encouraged to install their own generation.

It's a complete failure.. it just doesn't make sense.

I am currently using 4kw (eqv £1.12 per hour) for heating, boiling kettle, washers's on and watching TV with 20-100 watts going OUT to Grid.

I refuse to export as I find it offensive that its taken for 6p and sold to others on my street for 28p-56p."

How are you generating the power?

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