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Please let us know your source as the ONS say they aren’t due out until the 13th April? Or do you have a secret line to the ONS ? | |||
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Please let us know your source as the ONS say they aren’t due out until the 13th April? Or do you have a secret line to the ONS ? "The Russian ministry that the bots work for have hacked the ons | |||
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"Inflation figures for March. US. 7.9 % , EU. 7.5 % , UK 6.2 %. . While inflation is not good news for anyone and many factors are beyond the governments control at least we have achieved the lowest increase . " It’s like saying being slapped is better than being punched metaphorically speaking, they are both painful to the individual. With practically everything going up, it’s not the best thing to say to anyone who is suffering right now. | |||
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"Inflation figures for March. US. 7.9 % , EU. 7.5 % , UK 6.2 %. . While inflation is not good news for anyone and many factors are beyond the governments control at least we have achieved the lowest increase . " Although the figures are correct you are not comparing the same months. The UK and US figures were for February and only the EU is for March (according to politico this is the result announced in Frankfurt though seems early to have this data). It is going in the wrong direction everywhere and past predictions are being overtaken every month. Also when the EU and US have trouble like this it affects the UK as we trade with them. We trade more with the U.S. than any other country by quite a margin. As you know the EU as a group are also very important to trade so we need them thriving. | |||
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"Inflation figures for March. US. 7.9 % , EU. 7.5 % , UK 6.2 %. . While inflation is not good news for anyone and many factors are beyond the governments control at least we have achieved the lowest increase . " PMSL  | |||
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"The EU figures are the average for 27 countries. Given the horrors going on in Ukraine affecting gas prices 7.5% average seems pretty good. France are around 4-4.5% for comparison. One incy wincy little thing that could have the tiniest impact on the U.K. rate from the 1st April is that little cap thing on energy.. maybe I’m just being pessimistic but May’s release figures could be interesting. We’re in an upward spiral and to all those younger mortgage holders who’ve never been here before can I just say cut and change whatever you can now while you can afford to., It may not happen but if rates keep increasing it can get very painful. In business a simple rule is to make cuts while doing well because you can afford to spend on changes. When you’re skint it’s too late and others actions dictate your choices. " Indeed taking the EU rate is just an average over the members. Like the UK they are heading in the wrong direction. Unfortunately France and Germany are now 5.1 (France) & 7.6 (Germany) in the latest figures. The lowest in the block is 4.6 and the highest is 15.6 Your comments on the energy price rise we are getting is more realism than pessimistic I would say and the UK rate will suffer accordingly. When I had a mortgage I remember 15% interest rates for a while and mostly in double digits. I hope for the sake of those starting out it does not go back to that. Oh and very wise words on making cuts when doing well | |||
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"Inflation figures for March. US. 7.9 % , EU. 7.5 % , UK 6.2 %. . While inflation is not good news for anyone and many factors are beyond the governments control at least we have achieved the lowest increase . " That’s last months…. Which doesn’t take into consideration Ukraine, and the record high oil and gas prices, ect… The predicted estimate for April is now in the 8.7 range!.. and that won’t include things like price cap hikes, the NI and council tax increases ect ect… | |||
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"Inflation figures for March. US. 7.9 % , EU. 7.5 % , UK 6.2 %. . While inflation is not good news for anyone and many factors are beyond the governments control at least we have achieved the lowest increase . " France are doing really well 4.5, well done france and macron. | |||
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"Inflation figures for March. US. 7.9 % , EU. 7.5 % , UK 6.2 %. . While inflation is not good news for anyone and many factors are beyond the governments control at least we have achieved the lowest increase . France are doing really well 4.5, well done france and macron. " Their inflation rate is certainly one of the better countries in the EU but it is no longer 4.5% as it rose to 5.1% in March. That is still a good result given the circumstances | |||
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"Inflation figures for March. US. 7.9 % , EU. 7.5 % , UK 6.2 %. . While inflation is not good news for anyone and many factors are beyond the governments control at least we have achieved the lowest increase . France are doing really well 4.5, well done france and macron. Their inflation rate is certainly one of the better countries in the EU but it is no longer 4.5% as it rose to 5.1% in March. That is still a good result given the circumstances" I'm sure the OP will join in celebrating Macron and France's success. Any minute.... | |||
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"Inflation figures for March. US. 7.9 % , EU. 7.5 % , UK 6.2 %. . While inflation is not good news for anyone and many factors are beyond the governments control at least we have achieved the lowest increase . France are doing really well 4.5, well done france and macron. Their inflation rate is certainly one of the better countries in the EU but it is no longer 4.5% as it rose to 5.1% in March. That is still a good result given the circumstances I'm sure the OP will join in celebrating Macron and France's success. Any minute...." Tumble quietly rolling past… | |||
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"Inflation figures for March. US. 7.9 % , EU. 7.5 % , UK 6.2 %. . While inflation is not good news for anyone and many factors are beyond the governments control at least we have achieved the lowest increase . France are doing really well 4.5, well done france and macron. Their inflation rate is certainly one of the better countries in the EU but it is no longer 4.5% as it rose to 5.1% in March. That is still a good result given the circumstances I'm sure the OP will join in celebrating Macron and France's success. Any minute...." .Any reason why I would not join in celebrating Macrons success ? I have to pay taxes in France so keep a carefull eye on the various government policies. I was however comparing averages, not individual EU counties. | |||
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"Inflation figures for March. US. 7.9 % , EU. 7.5 % , UK 6.2 %. . While inflation is not good news for anyone and many factors are beyond the governments control at least we have achieved the lowest increase . France are doing really well 4.5, well done france and macron. Their inflation rate is certainly one of the better countries in the EU but it is no longer 4.5% as it rose to 5.1% in March. That is still a good result given the circumstances I'm sure the OP will join in celebrating Macron and France's success. Any minute.....Any reason why I would not join in celebrating Macrons success ? I have to pay taxes in France so keep a carefull eye on the various government policies. I was however comparing averages, not individual EU counties. "
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"Funny how its the eu when the news is good but its individual countries when its bad how fickle these remainers are. "Yes quite right. We should stick to the rigid comparison of EU, UK and the US. Absolutely no discussion on the timing of the figures being a mismatch, and absolutely no discussion of specific EU countries for context. | |||
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"Funny how its the eu when the news is good but its individual countries when its bad how fickle these remainers are.
Yes quite right. We should stick to the rigid comparison of EU, UK and the US.
Absolutely no discussion on the timing of the figures being a mismatch, and absolutely no discussion of specific EU countries for context.
"That is another debate of course you cant compare the figures but i do find it highly amusing the squirming some go to, i could imagine the flack someone would get if when discussing trade with the eu they started breaking it down to each country. | |||
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"Funny how its the eu when the news is good but its individual countries when its bad how fickle these remainers are.
Yes quite right. We should stick to the rigid comparison of EU, UK and the US.
Absolutely no discussion on the timing of the figures being a mismatch, and absolutely no discussion of specific EU countries for context.
That is another debate of course you cant compare the figures but i do find it highly amusing the squirming some go to, i could imagine the flack someone would get if when discussing trade with the eu they started breaking it down to each country. "Ok ... Go No flak, just give us a break down of the trade we have lost to each individual EU country ? | |||
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"Funny how its the eu when the news is good but its individual countries when its bad how fickle these remainers are.
Yes quite right. We should stick to the rigid comparison of EU, UK and the US.
Absolutely no discussion on the timing of the figures being a mismatch, and absolutely no discussion of specific EU countries for context.
". However the timing being a mismatch would have no impact on comparables unless you suddenly changed the periods to which you were comparing. It is fairly standard practice to use the latest figures should the data you require not be available. If you made a change in the basis of comparables there would be a disclosure note to advise those using the comparable. | |||
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"Funny how its the eu when the news is good but its individual countries when its bad how fickle these remainers are.
Yes quite right. We should stick to the rigid comparison of EU, UK and the US.
Absolutely no discussion on the timing of the figures being a mismatch, and absolutely no discussion of specific EU countries for context.
". Ask the poster who mentioned France to schedule the comparables for every EU country and we can then make an assessment . As it is an average it is unlikely the UK will drop to the bottom. | |||
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"Funny how its the eu when the news is good but its individual countries when its bad how fickle these remainers are.
Yes quite right. We should stick to the rigid comparison of EU, UK and the US.
Absolutely no discussion on the timing of the figures being a mismatch, and absolutely no discussion of specific EU countries for context.
. However the timing being a mismatch would have no impact on comparables unless you suddenly changed the periods to which you were comparing. It is fairly standard practice to use the latest figures should the data you require not be available. If you made a change in the basis of comparables there would be a disclosure note to advise those using the comparable. "I love how you're defending how you're being used and manipulated with this data. You even know you are being fed misleading information, but still defend it. That's pretty impressive. Fair play to you. | |||
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"Funny how its the eu when the news is good but its individual countries when its bad how fickle these remainers are.
Yes quite right. We should stick to the rigid comparison of EU, UK and the US.
Absolutely no discussion on the timing of the figures being a mismatch, and absolutely no discussion of specific EU countries for context.
That is another debate of course you cant compare the figures but i do find it highly amusing the squirming some go to, i could imagine the flack someone would get if when discussing trade with the eu they started breaking it down to each country. "Feel free to work away on that if you wish. | |||
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"Funny how its the eu when the news is good but its individual countries when its bad how fickle these remainers are.
Yes quite right. We should stick to the rigid comparison of EU, UK and the US.
Absolutely no discussion on the timing of the figures being a mismatch, and absolutely no discussion of specific EU countries for context.
That is another debate of course you cant compare the figures but i do find it highly amusing the squirming some go to, i could imagine the flack someone would get if when discussing trade with the eu they started breaking it down to each country.
Feel free to work away on that if you wish."Thanks for your permission. | |||
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"Inflation figures for March. US. 7.9 % , EU. 7.5 % , UK 6.2 %. . While inflation is not good news for anyone and many factors are beyond the governments control at least we have achieved the lowest increase . France are doing really well 4.5, well done france and macron. Their inflation rate is certainly one of the better countries in the EU but it is no longer 4.5% as it rose to 5.1% in March. That is still a good result given the circumstances I'm sure the OP will join in celebrating Macron and France's success. Any minute.....Any reason why I would not join in celebrating Macrons success ? I have to pay taxes in France so keep a carefull eye on the various government policies. I was however comparing averages, not individual EU counties. " Why? | |||
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"Funny how its the eu when the news is good but its individual countries when its bad how fickle these remainers are. "Can you give an example of this please? ...given that I am one of these fickle remainers... | |||
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"Funny how its the eu when the news is good but its individual countries when its bad how fickle these remainers are.
Can you give an example of this please?
...given that I am one of these fickle remainers..."look at the posts above | |||
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"Funny how its the eu when the news is good but its individual countries when its bad how fickle these remainers are.
Yes quite right. We should stick to the rigid comparison of EU, UK and the US.
Absolutely no discussion on the timing of the figures being a mismatch, and absolutely no discussion of specific EU countries for context.
. However the timing being a mismatch would have no impact on comparables unless you suddenly changed the periods to which you were comparing. It is fairly standard practice to use the latest figures should the data you require not be available. If you made a change in the basis of comparables there would be a disclosure note to advise those using the comparable. "is inflation compared consistently across countries ? In my head, the ons choose the basket of goods for the UK. If my memory is correct, that's a bigger cause for any disparity than timing. I don't follow your point in why the timing doesn't make a difference. Can you expand? | |||
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"Funny how its the eu when the news is good but its individual countries when its bad how fickle these remainers are.
Yes quite right. We should stick to the rigid comparison of EU, UK and the US.
Absolutely no discussion on the timing of the figures being a mismatch, and absolutely no discussion of specific EU countries for context.
That is another debate of course you cant compare the figures but i do find it highly amusing the squirming some go to, i could imagine the flack someone would get if when discussing trade with the eu they started breaking it down to each country. "that feels a very reasonable thing to do. I care more about how trade has changed with those we trade more with, than those we don't. I also think the UK should aim high and compare ourselves witn the best of the EU, not the average. | |||
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"Funny how its the eu when the news is good but its individual countries when its bad how fickle these remainers are.
Can you give an example of this please?
...given that I am one of these fickle remainers...look at the posts above "
As far as I can see..
People choose to compare the UK against the EU when the UK comes out reasonably well (as per the OP which is from a Brexiteer or a Russian BOT ...as nobody is quite sure about that one..) yet, the common sense approach when comparing economies is to look at peer groups.
France, Germany and Italy compare reasonably well economically and have similar populations to the UK hence the reason that people compare them.
They are also are also part of the G7 (and is the UK) - considered to be some of the world’s leading industrial nations.
If comparing economically the whole of the EU against the UK, it is likely that the UK will be ahead.
Your statement that Remainers choose to compare the EU against the UK when it suits them in response to my question by suggesting that I look at the thread when the thread proves the opposite of what you suggest, is bewildering.
However, those who voted to make the UK economically poorer and to take the inhabitants of that once great country from a reasonably high standard of living to that of food banks, poverty and higher taxation are a mystery to me.
Perhaps you made a mistake when you suggested that Remainers twisted the truth to suit themselves when you really meant that it was those who voted to leave the EU I.e. the Brexiteers.
Perhaps that civil servant who famously posted on Twitter was correct when he (or she) said "Arrogant and offensive. Can you imagine having to work with these truth twisters?" | |||
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"Funny how its the eu when the news is good but its individual countries when its bad how fickle these remainers are.
Can you give an example of this please?
...given that I am one of these fickle remainers...look at the posts above
As far as I can see..
People choose to compare the UK against the EU when the UK comes out reasonably well (as per the OP which is from a Brexiteer or a Russian BOT ...as nobody is quite sure about that one..) yet, the common sense approach when comparing economies is to look at peer groups.
France, Germany and Italy compare reasonably well economically and have similar populations to the UK hence the reason that people compare them.
They are also are also part of the G7 (and is the UK) - considered to be some of the world’s leading industrial nations.
If comparing economically the whole of the EU against the UK, it is likely that the UK will be ahead.
Your statement that Remainers choose to compare the EU against the UK when it suits them in response to my question by suggesting that I look at the thread when the thread proves the opposite of what you suggest, is bewildering.
However, those who voted to make the UK economically poorer and to take the inhabitants of that once great country from a reasonably high standard of living to that of food banks, poverty and higher taxation are a mystery to me.
Perhaps you made a mistake when you suggested that Remainers twisted the truth to suit themselves when you really meant that it was those who voted to leave the EU I.e. the Brexiteers.
Perhaps that civil servant who famously posted on Twitter was correct when he (or she) said "Arrogant and offensive. Can you imagine having to work with these truth twisters?""So how many times have you read on here when talking about trade with the eu have you seen anyone talk about individual countries? i can answer that for you never,i rest my case. | |||
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"Funny how its the eu when the news is good but its individual countries when its bad how fickle these remainers are.
Can you give an example of this please?
...given that I am one of these fickle remainers...look at the posts above
As far as I can see..
People choose to compare the UK against the EU when the UK comes out reasonably well (as per the OP which is from a Brexiteer or a Russian BOT ...as nobody is quite sure about that one..) yet, the common sense approach when comparing economies is to look at peer groups.
France, Germany and Italy compare reasonably well economically and have similar populations to the UK hence the reason that people compare them.
They are also are also part of the G7 (and is the UK) - considered to be some of the world’s leading industrial nations.
If comparing economically the whole of the EU against the UK, it is likely that the UK will be ahead.
Your statement that Remainers choose to compare the EU against the UK when it suits them in response to my question by suggesting that I look at the thread when the thread proves the opposite of what you suggest, is bewildering.
However, those who voted to make the UK economically poorer and to take the inhabitants of that once great country from a reasonably high standard of living to that of food banks, poverty and higher taxation are a mystery to me.
Perhaps you made a mistake when you suggested that Remainers twisted the truth to suit themselves when you really meant that it was those who voted to leave the EU I.e. the Brexiteers.
Perhaps that civil servant who famously posted on Twitter was correct when he (or she) said "Arrogant and offensive. Can you imagine having to work with these truth twisters?""Please don’t use a common sense narrative to derail his argument… you know the rules around here!!! | |||
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"Funny how its the eu when the news is good but its individual countries when its bad how fickle these remainers are.
Can you give an example of this please?
...given that I am one of these fickle remainers...look at the posts above
As far as I can see..
People choose to compare the UK against the EU when the UK comes out reasonably well (as per the OP which is from a Brexiteer or a Russian BOT ...as nobody is quite sure about that one..) yet, the common sense approach when comparing economies is to look at peer groups.
France, Germany and Italy compare reasonably well economically and have similar populations to the UK hence the reason that people compare them.
They are also are also part of the G7 (and is the UK) - considered to be some of the world’s leading industrial nations.
If comparing economically the whole of the EU against the UK, it is likely that the UK will be ahead.
Your statement that Remainers choose to compare the EU against the UK when it suits them in response to my question by suggesting that I look at the thread when the thread proves the opposite of what you suggest, is bewildering.
However, those who voted to make the UK economically poorer and to take the inhabitants of that once great country from a reasonably high standard of living to that of food banks, poverty and higher taxation are a mystery to me.
Perhaps you made a mistake when you suggested that Remainers twisted the truth to suit themselves when you really meant that it was those who voted to leave the EU I.e. the Brexiteers.
Perhaps that civil servant who famously posted on Twitter was correct when he (or she) said "Arrogant and offensive. Can you imagine having to work with these truth twisters?"
Please don’t use a common sense narrative to derail his argument… you know the rules around here!!! " read above. | |||
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"So how many times have you read on here when talking about trade with the eu have you seen anyone talk about individual countries? i can answer that for you never,i rest my case. "See… here is the thing Costa…. How many times in this thread has the word “trade” been used in this thread? The answer…. Not until you just introduced it!!! You are replying to a question in this thread that has not been asked!!! You are seeing things that are not there!!! The op was trying to boast about inflation figures, people in this thread have answered those questions to put them into context… Then you try to throw in an “oh look over there” grenade and don’t answer any of the original points in actual subject… which was about inflation!!! | |||
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"Funny how its the eu when the news is good but its individual countries when its bad how fickle these remainers are.
Can you give an example of this please?
...given that I am one of these fickle remainers...look at the posts above
As far as I can see..
People choose to compare the UK against the EU when the UK comes out reasonably well (as per the OP which is from a Brexiteer or a Russian BOT ...as nobody is quite sure about that one..) yet, the common sense approach when comparing economies is to look at peer groups.
France, Germany and Italy compare reasonably well economically and have similar populations to the UK hence the reason that people compare them.
They are also are also part of the G7 (and is the UK) - considered to be some of the world’s leading industrial nations.
If comparing economically the whole of the EU against the UK, it is likely that the UK will be ahead.
Your statement that Remainers choose to compare the EU against the UK when it suits them in response to my question by suggesting that I look at the thread when the thread proves the opposite of what you suggest, is bewildering.
However, those who voted to make the UK economically poorer and to take the inhabitants of that once great country from a reasonably high standard of living to that of food banks, poverty and higher taxation are a mystery to me.
Perhaps you made a mistake when you suggested that Remainers twisted the truth to suit themselves when you really meant that it was those who voted to leave the EU I.e. the Brexiteers.
Perhaps that civil servant who famously posted on Twitter was correct when he (or she) said "Arrogant and offensive. Can you imagine having to work with these truth twisters?"
Please don’t use a common sense narrative to derail his argument… you know the rules around here!!! "You are right... These truth twisters don't enjoy common sense | |||
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"lets take unemployment the eu 6.2% uk 3.9% or would you like to break it down to individual countries too? "Do you know where I just talked about an “oh lookie over there” grenade….. Taadaa!!! 
What part of “smoke and mirrors” do you think we don’t get? Do you think we are that jaded that we don’t see the game being played!
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"lets take unemployment the eu 6.2% uk 3.9% or would you like to break it down to individual countries too?
Do you know where I just talked about an “oh lookie over there” grenade….. Taadaa!!!
What part of “smoke and mirrors” do you think we don’t get? Do you think we are that jaded that we don’t see the game being played!
"It was mr jackel who wanted to break it down to countries so i agree its smoke and mirrors exactly the point i was making. | |||
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"So how many times have you read on here when talking about trade with the eu have you seen anyone talk about individual countries? i can answer that for you never,i rest my case.
See… here is the thing Costa…. How many times in this thread has the word “trade” been used in this thread?
The answer…. Not until you just introduced it!!!
You are replying to a question in this thread that has not been asked!!! You are seeing things that are not there!!!
The op was trying to boast about inflation figures, people in this thread have answered those questions to put them into context…
Then you try to throw in an “oh look over there” grenade and don’t answer any of the original points in actual subject… which was about inflation!!!
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"So how many times have you read on here when talking about trade with the eu have you seen anyone talk about individual countries? i can answer that for you never,i rest my case.
See… here is the thing Costa…. How many times in this thread has the word “trade” been used in this thread?
The answer…. Not until you just introduced it!!!
You are replying to a question in this thread that has not been asked!!! You are seeing things that are not there!!!
The op was trying to boast about inflation figures, people in this thread have answered those questions to put them into context…
Then you try to throw in an “oh look over there” grenade and don’t answer any of the original points in actual subject… which was about inflation!!!
. I do not think boast entered the equation. It was simply a comment on the statistics as reported. "That's the problem though. Blindly believing any statistics, which you said you knew were misleading. | |||
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"So how many times have you read on here when talking about trade with the eu have you seen anyone talk about individual countries? i can answer that for you never,i rest my case.
See… here is the thing Costa…. How many times in this thread has the word “trade” been used in this thread?
The answer…. Not until you just introduced it!!!
You are replying to a question in this thread that has not been asked!!! You are seeing things that are not there!!!
The op was trying to boast about inflation figures, people in this thread have answered those questions to put them into context…
Then you try to throw in an “oh look over there” grenade and don’t answer any of the original points in actual subject… which was about inflation!!!
. I do not think boast entered the equation. It was simply a comment on the statistics as reported.
That's the problem though. Blindly believing any statistics, which you said you knew were misleading."How can they be misleading if the basis of preparation is consistent ? . They would only become misleading if you changed the basis of preparation. No one has suggested that this is the case . | |||
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"So how many times have you read on here when talking about trade with the eu have you seen anyone talk about individual countries? i can answer that for you never,i rest my case.
See… here is the thing Costa…. How many times in this thread has the word “trade” been used in this thread?
The answer…. Not until you just introduced it!!!
You are replying to a question in this thread that has not been asked!!! You are seeing things that are not there!!!
The op was trying to boast about inflation figures, people in this thread have answered those questions to put them into context…
Then you try to throw in an “oh look over there” grenade and don’t answer any of the original points in actual subject… which was about inflation!!!
. I do not think boast entered the equation. It was simply a comment on the statistics as reported.
That's the problem though. Blindly believing any statistics, which you said you knew were misleading. How can they be misleading if the basis of preparation is consistent ? . They would only become misleading if you changed the basis of preparation. No one has suggested that this is the case . "the basket is changed each year for the UK. | |||
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"lets take unemployment the eu 6.2% uk 3.9% or would you like to break it down to individual countries too?
Do you know where I just talked about an “oh lookie over there” grenade….. Taadaa!!!
What part of “smoke and mirrors” do you think we don’t get? Do you think we are that jaded that we don’t see the game being played!
It was mr jackel who wanted to break it down to countries so i agree its smoke and mirrors exactly the point i was making. "Yes and I also pointed out his figures were fake. He additionally compared a country with a trade group which was misleading . So the point that our country is better at managing the economy than others was incorrect. ( some countries yes) As you know very well financial management is a country’s own prerogative not the EU’s. | |||
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"So how many times have you read on here when talking about trade with the eu have you seen anyone talk about individual countries? i can answer that for you never,i rest my case.
See… here is the thing Costa…. How many times in this thread has the word “trade” been used in this thread?
The answer…. Not until you just introduced it!!!
You are replying to a question in this thread that has not been asked!!! You are seeing things that are not there!!!
The op was trying to boast about inflation figures, people in this thread have answered those questions to put them into context…
Then you try to throw in an “oh look over there” grenade and don’t answer any of the original points in actual subject… which was about inflation!!!
. I do not think boast entered the equation. It was simply a comment on the statistics as reported.
That's the problem though. Blindly believing any statistics, which you said you knew were misleading. How can they be misleading if the basis of preparation is consistent ? . They would only become misleading if you changed the basis of preparation. No one has suggested that this is the case . "You can’t use figures that haven’t been calculated or published as that’s pretty misleading. | |||
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"So how many times have you read on here when talking about trade with the eu have you seen anyone talk about individual countries? i can answer that for you never,i rest my case.
See… here is the thing Costa…. How many times in this thread has the word “trade” been used in this thread?
The answer…. Not until you just introduced it!!!
You are replying to a question in this thread that has not been asked!!! You are seeing things that are not there!!!
The op was trying to boast about inflation figures, people in this thread have answered those questions to put them into context…
Then you try to throw in an “oh look over there” grenade and don’t answer any of the original points in actual subject… which was about inflation!!!
. I do not think boast entered the equation. It was simply a comment on the statistics as reported.
That's the problem though. Blindly believing any statistics, which you said you knew were misleading. How can they be misleading if the basis of preparation is consistent ? . They would only become misleading if you changed the basis of preparation. No one has suggested that this is the case .
You can’t use figures that haven’t been calculated or published as that’s pretty misleading. "That are for different time stamps. Anyway, this is a good thread. It's interesting how you openly admit that the figures are misleading earlier, but that you don't care. Then change tack to deny everything. | |||
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"So how many times have you read on here when talking about trade with the eu have you seen anyone talk about individual countries? i can answer that for you never,i rest my case.
See… here is the thing Costa…. How many times in this thread has the word “trade” been used in this thread?
The answer…. Not until you just introduced it!!!
You are replying to a question in this thread that has not been asked!!! You are seeing things that are not there!!!
The op was trying to boast about inflation figures, people in this thread have answered those questions to put them into context…
Then you try to throw in an “oh look over there” grenade and don’t answer any of the original points in actual subject… which was about inflation!!!
. I do not think boast entered the equation. It was simply a comment on the statistics as reported.
That's the problem though. Blindly believing any statistics, which you said you knew were misleading. How can they be misleading if the basis of preparation is consistent ? . They would only become misleading if you changed the basis of preparation. No one has suggested that this is the case .
You can’t use figures that haven’t been calculated or published as that’s pretty misleading.
That are for different time stamps.
Anyway, this is a good thread. It's interesting how you openly admit that the figures are misleading earlier, but that you don't care. Then change tack to deny everything."Yes but the original claim was that the figures for the U.K. were March which was impossible. | |||
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"So how many times have you read on here when talking about trade with the eu have you seen anyone talk about individual countries? i can answer that for you never,i rest my case.
See… here is the thing Costa…. How many times in this thread has the word “trade” been used in this thread?
The answer…. Not until you just introduced it!!!
You are replying to a question in this thread that has not been asked!!! You are seeing things that are not there!!!
The op was trying to boast about inflation figures, people in this thread have answered those questions to put them into context…
Then you try to throw in an “oh look over there” grenade and don’t answer any of the original points in actual subject… which was about inflation!!!
. I do not think boast entered the equation. It was simply a comment on the statistics as reported.
That's the problem though. Blindly believing any statistics, which you said you knew were misleading. How can they be misleading if the basis of preparation is consistent ? . They would only become misleading if you changed the basis of preparation. No one has suggested that this is the case .
You can’t use figures that haven’t been calculated or published as that’s pretty misleading.
That are for different time stamps.
Anyway, this is a good thread. It's interesting how you openly admit that the figures are misleading earlier, but that you don't care. Then change tack to deny everything.
Yes but the original claim was that the figures for the U.K. were March which was impossible. "Sorry, I was addressing the OP. This thread is an example of how it goes when you blindly believe something without checking it, and then defend it was a variety of contradictory arguments. | |||
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"So how many times have you read on here when talking about trade with the eu have you seen anyone talk about individual countries? i can answer that for you never,i rest my case.
See… here is the thing Costa…. How many times in this thread has the word “trade” been used in this thread?
The answer…. Not until you just introduced it!!!
You are replying to a question in this thread that has not been asked!!! You are seeing things that are not there!!!
The op was trying to boast about inflation figures, people in this thread have answered those questions to put them into context…
Then you try to throw in an “oh look over there” grenade and don’t answer any of the original points in actual subject… which was about inflation!!!
. I do not think boast entered the equation. It was simply a comment on the statistics as reported.
That's the problem though. Blindly believing any statistics, which you said you knew were misleading. How can they be misleading if the basis of preparation is consistent ? . They would only become misleading if you changed the basis of preparation. No one has suggested that this is the case .
You can’t use figures that haven’t been calculated or published as that’s pretty misleading.
That are for different time stamps.
Anyway, this is a good thread. It's interesting how you openly admit that the figures are misleading earlier, but that you don't care. Then change tack to deny everything.
Yes but the original claim was that the figures for the U.K. were March which was impossible. ". If someone wanted to be really pedantic they could insert the description. February / March . As none of the press releases see the need to do this it seemed a bit pointless to insert such a description in the thread. The important thing is that the figures are prepared on a consistent basis which they are . It is standard practice to use the last reporting data. | |||
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"lets take unemployment the eu 6.2% uk 3.9% or would you like to break it down to individual countries too?
Do you know where I just talked about an “oh lookie over there” grenade….. Taadaa!!!
What part of “smoke and mirrors” do you think we don’t get? Do you think we are that jaded that we don’t see the game being played!
It was mr jackel who wanted to break it down to countries so i agree its smoke and mirrors exactly the point i was making.
Yes and I also pointed out his figures were fake. He additionally compared a country with a trade group which was misleading . So the point that our country is better at managing the economy than others was incorrect. ( some countries yes) As you know very well financial management is a country’s own prerogative not the EU’s.
". How could figures possibly be fake . ? Has any complained to the press ombudsman. ? They do exactly as reported ( namely compare inflation in the UK with the EU and USA. ) It is standard practice to use the previous periods figures if current ones are not available. | |||
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"lets take unemployment the eu 6.2% uk 3.9% or would you like to break it down to individual countries too?
Do you know where I just talked about an “oh lookie over there” grenade….. Taadaa!!!
What part of “smoke and mirrors” do you think we don’t get? Do you think we are that jaded that we don’t see the game being played!
It was mr jackel who wanted to break it down to countries so i agree its smoke and mirrors exactly the point i was making.
Yes and I also pointed out his figures were fake. He additionally compared a country with a trade group which was misleading . So the point that our country is better at managing the economy than others was incorrect. ( some countries yes) As you know very well financial management is a country’s own prerogative not the EU’s.
. How could figures possibly be fake . ? Has any complained to the press ombudsman. ? They do exactly as reported ( namely compare inflation in the UK with the EU and USA. ) It is standard practice to use the previous periods figures if current ones are not available. "they weren't March's numbers. Tho calling it fake is probably harsh. Missleading. Would have been better to have used Feb data for all. | |||
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"So how many times have you read on here when talking about trade with the eu have you seen anyone talk about individual countries? i can answer that for you never,i rest my case.
See… here is the thing Costa…. How many times in this thread has the word “trade” been used in this thread?
The answer…. Not until you just introduced it!!!
You are replying to a question in this thread that has not been asked!!! You are seeing things that are not there!!!
The op was trying to boast about inflation figures, people in this thread have answered those questions to put them into context…
Then you try to throw in an “oh look over there” grenade and don’t answer any of the original points in actual subject… which was about inflation!!!
. I do not think boast entered the equation. It was simply a comment on the statistics as reported.
That's the problem though. Blindly believing any statistics, which you said you knew were misleading. How can they be misleading if the basis of preparation is consistent ? . They would only become misleading if you changed the basis of preparation. No one has suggested that this is the case .
You can’t use figures that haven’t been calculated or published as that’s pretty misleading.
That are for different time stamps.
Anyway, this is a good thread. It's interesting how you openly admit that the figures are misleading earlier, but that you don't care. Then change tack to deny everything.
Yes but the original claim was that the figures for the U.K. were March which was impossible. . If someone wanted to be really pedantic they could insert the description. February / March . As none of the press releases see the need to do this it seemed a bit pointless to insert such a description in the thread. The important thing is that the figures are prepared on a consistent basis which they are . It is standard practice to use the last reporting data. "The important thing is that people believe the misleading figures regardless. Defend the misleading figures. Vote Tory. | |||
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"lets take unemployment the eu 6.2% uk 3.9% or would you like to break it down to individual countries too?
Do you know where I just talked about an “oh lookie over there” grenade….. Taadaa!!!
What part of “smoke and mirrors” do you think we don’t get? Do you think we are that jaded that we don’t see the game being played!
It was mr jackel who wanted to break it down to countries so i agree its smoke and mirrors exactly the point i was making.
Yes and I also pointed out his figures were fake. He additionally compared a country with a trade group which was misleading . So the point that our country is better at managing the economy than others was incorrect. ( some countries yes) As you know very well financial management is a country’s own prerogative not the EU’s.
. How could figures possibly be fake . ? Has any complained to the press ombudsman. ? They do exactly as reported ( namely compare inflation in the UK with the EU and USA. ) It is standard practice to use the previous periods figures if current ones are not available. "Because the U.K. figures don’t exist. If you don’t like fake please feel free to say made up or non existent I really don’t care. The figures for the UK’s March inflation are released on the 14th April so unless he’s travelled to the future they don’t exist. It is definitely not standard to use prior figures for months of comparison . It’s not a comparison if you do. For example the pound is worth €1.44 . Try to get that this week in the currency exchanges. After all it was before. | |||
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"Most of you never lived and had mortgages in the 70s this is a walk in the park, interest rates up to 16% It well get better always does, difference is we didnt have social media winding everyone up. " Ah the good ol' days! | |||
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"lets take unemployment the eu 6.2% uk 3.9% or would you like to break it down to individual countries too?
Do you know where I just talked about an “oh lookie over there” grenade….. Taadaa!!!
What part of “smoke and mirrors” do you think we don’t get? Do you think we are that jaded that we don’t see the game being played!
It was mr jackel who wanted to break it down to countries so i agree its smoke and mirrors exactly the point i was making.
Yes and I also pointed out his figures were fake. He additionally compared a country with a trade group which was misleading . So the point that our country is better at managing the economy than others was incorrect. ( some countries yes) As you know very well financial management is a country’s own prerogative not the EU’s.
. How could figures possibly be fake . ? Has any complained to the press ombudsman. ? They do exactly as reported ( namely compare inflation in the UK with the EU and USA. ) It is standard practice to use the previous periods figures if current ones are not available.
Because the U.K. figures don’t exist. If you don’t like fake please feel free to say made up or non existent I really don’t care.
The figures for the UK’s March inflation are released on the 14th April so unless he’s travelled to the future they don’t exist.
It is definitely not standard to use prior figures for months of comparison . It’s not a comparison if you do. For example the pound is worth €1.44 . Try to get that this week in the currency exchanges. After all it was before. ". They might be fake to you because you did not like the result. They key thing is that the report is compared on a consistent basis. Most rational people would not be so pedantic to insist that the description was amended to February / March . Most commentators accepted the report and just commented on the underlying data . The example of the currency is a completely different concept. The reports referred to were on historic financial performance. Currency exchange is live real time which is a completely different concept to performance reporting. | |||
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"lets take unemployment the eu 6.2% uk 3.9% or would you like to break it down to individual countries too?
Do you know where I just talked about an “oh lookie over there” grenade….. Taadaa!!!
What part of “smoke and mirrors” do you think we don’t get? Do you think we are that jaded that we don’t see the game being played!
It was mr jackel who wanted to break it down to countries so i agree its smoke and mirrors exactly the point i was making.
Yes and I also pointed out his figures were fake. He additionally compared a country with a trade group which was misleading . So the point that our country is better at managing the economy than others was incorrect. ( some countries yes) As you know very well financial management is a country’s own prerogative not the EU’s.
. How could figures possibly be fake . ? Has any complained to the press ombudsman. ? They do exactly as reported ( namely compare inflation in the UK with the EU and USA. ) It is standard practice to use the previous periods figures if current ones are not available.
Because the U.K. figures don’t exist. If you don’t like fake please feel free to say made up or non existent I really don’t care.
The figures for the UK’s March inflation are released on the 14th April so unless he’s travelled to the future they don’t exist.
It is definitely not standard to use prior figures for months of comparison . It’s not a comparison if you do. For example the pound is worth €1.44 . Try to get that this week in the currency exchanges. After all it was before. . They might be fake to you because you did not like the result. They key thing is that the report is compared on a consistent basis. Most rational people would not be so pedantic to insist that the description was amended to February / March . Most commentators accepted the report and just commented on the underlying data .
The example of the currency is a completely different concept. The reports referred to were on historic financial performance. Currency exchange is live real time which is a completely different concept to performance reporting. "was the EU data Feb or March ? | |||
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"lets take unemployment the eu 6.2% uk 3.9% or would you like to break it down to individual countries too?
Do you know where I just talked about an “oh lookie over there” grenade….. Taadaa!!!
What part of “smoke and mirrors” do you think we don’t get? Do you think we are that jaded that we don’t see the game being played!
It was mr jackel who wanted to break it down to countries so i agree its smoke and mirrors exactly the point i was making.
Yes and I also pointed out his figures were fake. He additionally compared a country with a trade group which was misleading . So the point that our country is better at managing the economy than others was incorrect. ( some countries yes) As you know very well financial management is a country’s own prerogative not the EU’s.
. How could figures possibly be fake . ? Has any complained to the press ombudsman. ? They do exactly as reported ( namely compare inflation in the UK with the EU and USA. ) It is standard practice to use the previous periods figures if current ones are not available.
Because the U.K. figures don’t exist. If you don’t like fake please feel free to say made up or non existent I really don’t care.
The figures for the UK’s March inflation are released on the 14th April so unless he’s travelled to the future they don’t exist.
It is definitely not standard to use prior figures for months of comparison . It’s not a comparison if you do. For example the pound is worth €1.44 . Try to get that this week in the currency exchanges. After all it was before. . They might be fake to you because you did not like the result. They key thing is that the report is compared on a consistent basis. Most rational people would not be so pedantic to insist that the description was amended to February / March . Most commentators accepted the report and just commented on the underlying data .
The example of the currency is a completely different concept. The reports referred to were on historic financial performance. Currency exchange is live real time which is a completely different concept to performance reporting. "Like I said use whatever you like but if you are using different dates for different countries it is not a comparison . It’s just data which as it has different timelines Cabot be compared on an equal basis . Saying I don’t like the numbers is just bollocks. I’m happy if less people are out of work so you’re talking nonsense. | |||
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