FabSwingers.com forum: NATO partly to blame?

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

To an extent yes but predominantly Putin.

Any comments on the link?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.firstpost.com/world/blame-putin-but-dont-ignore-wests-moral-certitude-and-reckless-arrogance-for-precipitating-ukraine-crisis-10406861.html/amp

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By *bernathCouple
over a year ago

Gloucestershire

"To an extent yes but predominantly Putin.

Any comments on the link?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.firstpost.com/world/blame-putin-but-dont-ignore-wests-moral-certitude-and-reckless-arrogance-for-precipitating-ukraine-crisis-10406861.html/amp"

It looks dodgy?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"To an extent yes but predominantly Putin.

Any comments on the link?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.firstpost.com/world/blame-putin-but-dont-ignore-wests-moral-certitude-and-reckless-arrogance-for-precipitating-ukraine-crisis-10406861.html/amp

It looks dodgy?"

First post. Com you mean?

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By *mateur100Man
over a year ago

nr faversham

NATO no

European leaders, yes

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent

Responsibility lays solely with a bald bloke in Moscow

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I wasn't keen on western hald talk in the weeks leading up. Could've toppled putins head a bit!?

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By *mateur100Man
over a year ago

nr faversham

"Responsibility lays solely with a bald bloke in Moscow"

He's been empowered over the years by incompetent western leaders. Simple as that

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Responsibility lays solely with a bald bloke in Moscow

He's been empowered over the years by incompetent western leaders. Simple as that "

How would they get shot of him though short of assassination

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By *bernathCouple
over a year ago

Gloucestershire

"To an extent yes but predominantly Putin.

Any comments on the link?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.firstpost.com/world/blame-putin-but-dont-ignore-wests-moral-certitude-and-reckless-arrogance-for-precipitating-ukraine-crisis-10406861.html/amp

It looks dodgy?

First post. Com you mean? "

You asked to comment about the Website address link, I I think it looks dodgy

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By *mateur100Man
over a year ago

nr faversham

"Responsibility lays solely with a bald bloke in Moscow

He's been empowered over the years by incompetent western leaders. Simple as that

How would they get shot of him though short of assassination "

That's a question for the politicians. But they must be hard and unanimous on economic sanctions for a start

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Responsibility lays solely with a bald bloke in Moscow

He's been empowered over the years by incompetent western leaders. Simple as that "

There is some truth that western leaders have turned a blind eye to Russian activities and accepted Russian money/gas/oil because it suited their needs. It almost certainly didnt help with (Putins superiority complex) when that Orange Bloke who used to be President tried to break up NATO or when he kissed Putin’s feet in Helsinki and witheld military aid to Ukraine.

But bare some responsibility? absolutley not, the guy who gave the order to invade a democratically elected country bares the responsibility.

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By *mateur100Man
over a year ago

nr faversham

"Responsibility lays solely with a bald bloke in Moscow

He's been empowered over the years by incompetent western leaders. Simple as that

But bare some responsibility? absolutley not, the guy who gave the order to invade a democratically elected country bares the responsibility.

With all due respect, the west has financed this and continues to do so with it's blatant failure to block Russia from swift completely

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Well I'm off to bed, fingers x 'd this shit war isn't worse when I'm up for 5am

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Responsibility lays solely with a bald bloke in Moscow

He's been empowered over the years by incompetent western leaders. Simple as that

But bare some responsibility? absolutley not, the guy who gave the order to invade a democratically elected country bares the responsibility.

With all due respect, the west has financed this and continues to do so with it's blatant failure to block Russia from swift completely "

The West has contributed to his 'war' chest with the purchase of gas/oil so have India, China and a lot of other counties. The same can be said for China (another war just waiting to happen). I understand what you say about 'swift' but it really is a fine line to balance, cause the economy enough pain to make him (or his minions) reconsider or completley collpase it and risk the fury that would bring.

I have to admit I do find it difficult to comprehend how the 'west' can sanction Russia whilst still buying gas and oil. Which is probably why a total shut down of Swift hasnt happened. Until he turns off the taps that is.

But that is our fault for not been energy self sufficient. We got into bed with a scorpion and now it has stung us.

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol

We have gas we have oil but the green have scuppered the production of it

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