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"Hypocrisy in action? Exceptions as to why the two conflicts are extremely hypocritical.. NATO (the USA) have a pathological fixation over Russia, Iran, Cuba etc.. So logic is reversed from the Ukraine and Russia, when dealing with Palistine and Israel., because of Iran, My thoughts are that because the USA have it in for both Russia and Iran so have to invert logic to fit both. Hard line, zero negotiations and tough talk to Russia at uktaines expense... While Full support of Israel aggression At palistinian expense " One thing is for sure, if China invades Taiwan, it will use the same excuse as Israel has always used for what it did in 1967, in the Six Day War, ie. this land is ours, it has been for centuries, we were only temporarily displaced and now we've taken it back. If you don't like it, too bad. Well, Taiwan was Chinese for over 200 years (at a bare minimum) before they lost it for 50 years, to the Japanese. Now I don't think the Chinese should invade Taiwan but, if they do, they'll be able to play the Israel card all day every day. And for those of you who do not think they'd be the same thing ... are you really saying that Israel had the right to do what it did in 1967 - and not give any of the land they took back - because they believe God gave them the land and the right to it? | |||
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"Hypocrisy in action? Exceptions as to why the two conflicts are extremely hypocritical.. NATO (the USA) have a pathological fixation over Russia, Iran, Cuba etc.. So logic is reversed from the Ukraine and Russia, when dealing with Palistine and Israel., because of Iran, My thoughts are that because the USA have it in for both Russia and Iran so have to invert logic to fit both. Hard line, zero negotiations and tough talk to Russia at uktaines expense... While Full support of Israel aggression At palistinian expense One thing is for sure, if China invades Taiwan, it will use the same excuse as Israel has always used for what it did in 1967, in the Six Day War, ie. this land is ours, it has been for centuries, we were only temporarily displaced and now we've taken it back. If you don't like it, too bad. Well, Taiwan was Chinese for over 200 years (at a bare minimum) before they lost it for 50 years, to the Japanese. Now I don't think the Chinese should invade Taiwan but, if they do, they'll be able to play the Israel card all day every day. And for those of you who do not think they'd be the same thing ... are you really saying that Israel had the right to do what it did in 1967 - and not give any of the land they took back - because they believe God gave them the land and the right to it?" Couldn’t have said any better. Let’s just sit back and wait for WW3. | |||
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"Hypocrisy in action? Exceptions as to why the two conflicts are extremely hypocritical.. NATO (the USA) have a pathological fixation over Russia, Iran, Cuba etc.. So logic is reversed from the Ukraine and Russia, when dealing with Palistine and Israel., because of Iran, My thoughts are that because the USA have it in for both Russia and Iran so have to invert logic to fit both. Hard line, zero negotiations and tough talk to Russia at uktaines expense... While Full support of Israel aggression At palistinian expense " I think it's less to do with Iran. US has a long history supporting Israel there are numerous reasons. There's a good article on aljazera a few years back that talks about some of those. Just yesterday the US vetoed a UN vote to allow a pause in the fighting to allow some humanitarian aid in. | |||
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"Hypocrisy in action? Exceptions as to why the two conflicts are extremely hypocritical.. NATO (the USA) have a pathological fixation over Russia, Iran, Cuba etc.. So logic is reversed from the Ukraine and Russia, when dealing with Palistine and Israel., because of Iran, My thoughts are that because the USA have it in for both Russia and Iran so have to invert logic to fit both. Hard line, zero negotiations and tough talk to Russia at uktaines expense... While Full support of Israel aggression At palistinian expense " Russia wasn't attacked by Ukraine. Ukraine did not go Into Russia and cut babies heads off, tie children together then set them on fire and return to Ukraine with 200+ hostiges in tow... | |||
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"Hypocrisy in action? Exceptions as to why the two conflicts are extremely hypocritical.. NATO (the USA) have a pathological fixation over Russia, Iran, Cuba etc.. So logic is reversed from the Ukraine and Russia, when dealing with Palistine and Israel., because of Iran, My thoughts are that because the USA have it in for both Russia and Iran so have to invert logic to fit both. Hard line, zero negotiations and tough talk to Russia at uktaines expense... While Full support of Israel aggression At palistinian expense Russia wasn't attacked by Ukraine. Ukraine did not go Into Russia and cut babies heads off, tie children together then set them on fire and return to Ukraine with 200+ hostiges in tow... " Neither did Palestine. | |||
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"Hypocrisy in action? Exceptions as to why the two conflicts are extremely hypocritical.. NATO (the USA) have a pathological fixation over Russia, Iran, Cuba etc.. So logic is reversed from the Ukraine and Russia, when dealing with Palistine and Israel., because of Iran, My thoughts are that because the USA have it in for both Russia and Iran so have to invert logic to fit both. Hard line, zero negotiations and tough talk to Russia at uktaines expense... While Full support of Israel aggression At palistinian expense Russia wasn't attacked by Ukraine. Ukraine did not go Into Russia and cut babies heads off, tie children together then set them on fire and return to Ukraine with 200+ hostiges in tow... Neither did Palestine." Hammas who governs the Gazza strip did as you well know. | |||
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"Hypocrisy in action? Exceptions as to why the two conflicts are extremely hypocritical.. NATO (the USA) have a pathological fixation over Russia, Iran, Cuba etc.. So logic is reversed from the Ukraine and Russia, when dealing with Palistine and Israel., because of Iran, My thoughts are that because the USA have it in for both Russia and Iran so have to invert logic to fit both. Hard line, zero negotiations and tough talk to Russia at uktaines expense... While Full support of Israel aggression At palistinian expense Russia wasn't attacked by Ukraine. Ukraine did not go Into Russia and cut babies heads off, tie children together then set them on fire and return to Ukraine with 200+ hostiges in tow... Neither did Palestine. Hammas who governs the Gazza strip did as you well know." is this beheading babies thing still doing the rounds? Not seen one news outlet verify this yet, and it pretty much came from one sqauddie and a hysterical yank reporter who admited she didnt actually see any such thing | |||
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"Hypocrisy in action? Exceptions as to why the two conflicts are extremely hypocritical.. NATO (the USA) have a pathological fixation over Russia, Iran, Cuba etc.. So logic is reversed from the Ukraine and Russia, when dealing with Palistine and Israel., because of Iran, My thoughts are that because the USA have it in for both Russia and Iran so have to invert logic to fit both. Hard line, zero negotiations and tough talk to Russia at uktaines expense... While Full support of Israel aggression At palistinian expense Russia wasn't attacked by Ukraine. Ukraine did not go Into Russia and cut babies heads off, tie children together then set them on fire and return to Ukraine with 200+ hostiges in tow... Neither did Palestine. Hammas who governs the Gazza strip did as you well know.is this beheading babies thing still doing the rounds? Not seen one news outlet verify this yet, and it pretty much came from one sqauddie and a hysterical yank reporter who admited she didnt actually see any such thing" Like the 600 killed in a Israeli airstrike reported by Hammas?? Not seen you question one thing put out by the palistinian health ministry. Kids where tied together and set on fire by hammas. This is verified but you believe what you want to believe. People on the extreme far left are all the same | |||
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"Hypocrisy in action? Exceptions as to why the two conflicts are extremely hypocritical.. NATO (the USA) have a pathological fixation over Russia, Iran, Cuba etc.. So logic is reversed from the Ukraine and Russia, when dealing with Palistine and Israel., because of Iran, My thoughts are that because the USA have it in for both Russia and Iran so have to invert logic to fit both. Hard line, zero negotiations and tough talk to Russia at uktaines expense... While Full support of Israel aggression At palistinian expense Russia wasn't attacked by Ukraine. Ukraine did not go Into Russia and cut babies heads off, tie children together then set them on fire and return to Ukraine with 200+ hostiges in tow... Neither did Palestine. Hammas who governs the Gazza strip did as you well know.is this beheading babies thing still doing the rounds? Not seen one news outlet verify this yet, and it pretty much came from one sqauddie and a hysterical yank reporter who admited she didnt actually see any such thing Like the 600 killed in a Israeli airstrike reported by Hammas?? Not seen you question one thing put out by the palistinian health ministry. Kids where tied together and set on fire by hammas. This is verified but you believe what you want to believe. People on the extreme far left are all the same " Is that worse than bombing kids? | |||
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"Hypocrisy in action? Exceptions as to why the two conflicts are extremely hypocritical.. NATO (the USA) have a pathological fixation over Russia, Iran, Cuba etc.. So logic is reversed from the Ukraine and Russia, when dealing with Palistine and Israel., because of Iran, My thoughts are that because the USA have it in for both Russia and Iran so have to invert logic to fit both. Hard line, zero negotiations and tough talk to Russia at uktaines expense... While Full support of Israel aggression At palistinian expense Russia wasn't attacked by Ukraine. Ukraine did not go Into Russia and cut babies heads off, tie children together then set them on fire and return to Ukraine with 200+ hostiges in tow... Neither did Palestine. Hammas who governs the Gazza strip did as you well know.is this beheading babies thing still doing the rounds? Not seen one news outlet verify this yet, and it pretty much came from one sqauddie and a hysterical yank reporter who admited she didnt actually see any such thing Like the 600 killed in a Israeli airstrike reported by Hammas?? Not seen you question one thing put out by the palistinian health ministry. Kids where tied together and set on fire by hammas. This is verified but you believe what you want to believe. People on the extreme far left are all the same Is that worse than bombing kids?" It is war if you are not aware. People die. Unless all your news sources are saying something else. Bombs were not designed to just spread glitter and rainbows now were they. If you can't see that reality maybe you should try a different pill to swallow to make you feel better. Anyway you look at it the cold harsh reality is what again? | |||
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"Hypocrisy in action? Exceptions as to why the two conflicts are extremely hypocritical.. NATO (the USA) have a pathological fixation over Russia, Iran, Cuba etc.. So logic is reversed from the Ukraine and Russia, when dealing with Palistine and Israel., because of Iran, My thoughts are that because the USA have it in for both Russia and Iran so have to invert logic to fit both. Hard line, zero negotiations and tough talk to Russia at uktaines expense... While Full support of Israel aggression At palistinian expense Russia wasn't attacked by Ukraine. Ukraine did not go Into Russia and cut babies heads off, tie children together then set them on fire and return to Ukraine with 200+ hostiges in tow... Neither did Palestine. Hammas who governs the Gazza strip did as you well know.is this beheading babies thing still doing the rounds? Not seen one news outlet verify this yet, and it pretty much came from one sqauddie and a hysterical yank reporter who admited she didnt actually see any such thing Like the 600 killed in a Israeli airstrike reported by Hammas?? Not seen you question one thing put out by the palistinian health ministry. Kids where tied together and set on fire by hammas. This is verified but you believe what you want to believe. People on the extreme far left are all the same Is that worse than bombing kids? It is war if you are not aware. " I'm aware. " People die. " Including kids yes. " Unless all your news sources are saying something else. " Nope, all the news I've seen is agreeing that people are dying. " Bombs were not designed to just spread glitter and rainbows now were they. " Mmmhmm, not sure anyone has suggested they are. " If you can't see that reality maybe you should try a different pill to swallow to make you feel better. " I definitely don't disagree with your assertion that people are dying, and that bombs are designed to cause damage and kill people. " Anyway you look at it the cold harsh reality is what again? " Don't understand this question. And I'm not sure what you're saying. I asked him if bombing kids is better than killing them in other ways. | |||
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"Hypocrisy in action? Exceptions as to why the two conflicts are extremely hypocritical.. NATO (the USA) have a pathological fixation over Russia, Iran, Cuba etc.. So logic is reversed from the Ukraine and Russia, when dealing with Palistine and Israel., because of Iran, My thoughts are that because the USA have it in for both Russia and Iran so have to invert logic to fit both. Hard line, zero negotiations and tough talk to Russia at uktaines expense... While Full support of Israel aggression At palistinian expense Russia wasn't attacked by Ukraine. Ukraine did not go Into Russia and cut babies heads off, tie children together then set them on fire and return to Ukraine with 200+ hostiges in tow... Neither did Palestine. Hammas who governs the Gazza strip did as you well know.is this beheading babies thing still doing the rounds? Not seen one news outlet verify this yet, and it pretty much came from one sqauddie and a hysterical yank reporter who admited she didnt actually see any such thing Like the 600 killed in a Israeli airstrike reported by Hammas?? Not seen you question one thing put out by the palistinian health ministry. Kids where tied together and set on fire by hammas. This is verified but you believe what you want to believe. People on the extreme far left are all the same " u think im leftie hahahaha i dont follow any of the corrupt fuckers,been called right wing on here and now extreme left prob be called a liberal next  | |||
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"Hypocrisy in action? Exceptions as to why the two conflicts are extremely hypocritical.. NATO (the USA) have a pathological fixation over Russia, Iran, Cuba etc.. So logic is reversed from the Ukraine and Russia, when dealing with Palistine and Israel., because of Iran, My thoughts are that because the USA have it in for both Russia and Iran so have to invert logic to fit both. Hard line, zero negotiations and tough talk to Russia at uktaines expense... While Full support of Israel aggression At palistinian expense Russia wasn't attacked by Ukraine. Ukraine did not go Into Russia and cut babies heads off, tie children together then set them on fire and return to Ukraine with 200+ hostiges in tow... Neither did Palestine. Hammas who governs the Gazza strip did as you well know.is this beheading babies thing still doing the rounds? Not seen one news outlet verify this yet, and it pretty much came from one sqauddie and a hysterical yank reporter who admited she didnt actually see any such thing Like the 600 killed in a Israeli airstrike reported by Hammas?? Not seen you question one thing put out by the palistinian health ministry. Kids where tied together and set on fire by hammas. This is verified but you believe what you want to believe. People on the extreme far left are all the same Is that worse than bombing kids?" IDF are not deliberately targeting civilians which you well know.. and to even try and compare the two is a total disgrace. | |||
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"Hypocrisy in action? Exceptions as to why the two conflicts are extremely hypocritical.. NATO (the USA) have a pathological fixation over Russia, Iran, Cuba etc.. So logic is reversed from the Ukraine and Russia, when dealing with Palistine and Israel., because of Iran, My thoughts are that because the USA have it in for both Russia and Iran so have to invert logic to fit both. Hard line, zero negotiations and tough talk to Russia at uktaines expense... While Full support of Israel aggression At palistinian expense Russia wasn't attacked by Ukraine. Ukraine did not go Into Russia and cut babies heads off, tie children together then set them on fire and return to Ukraine with 200+ hostiges in tow... Neither did Palestine. Hammas who governs the Gazza strip did as you well know.is this beheading babies thing still doing the rounds? Not seen one news outlet verify this yet, and it pretty much came from one sqauddie and a hysterical yank reporter who admited she didnt actually see any such thing Like the 600 killed in a Israeli airstrike reported by Hammas?? Not seen you question one thing put out by the palistinian health ministry. Kids where tied together and set on fire by hammas. This is verified but you believe what you want to believe. People on the extreme far left are all the same Is that worse than bombing kids? IDF are not deliberately targeting civilians which you well know.. and to even try and compare the two is a total disgrace." You're right. It's a disgrace to compare them. The IDF have killed way more civilians and kids. | |||
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"Hypocrisy in action? Exceptions as to why the two conflicts are extremely hypocritical.. NATO (the USA) have a pathological fixation over Russia, Iran, Cuba etc.. So logic is reversed from the Ukraine and Russia, when dealing with Palistine and Israel., because of Iran, My thoughts are that because the USA have it in for both Russia and Iran so have to invert logic to fit both. Hard line, zero negotiations and tough talk to Russia at uktaines expense... While Full support of Israel aggression At palistinian expense Russia wasn't attacked by Ukraine. Ukraine did not go Into Russia and cut babies heads off, tie children together then set them on fire and return to Ukraine with 200+ hostiges in tow... Neither did Palestine. Hammas who governs the Gazza strip did as you well know.is this beheading babies thing still doing the rounds? Not seen one news outlet verify this yet, and it pretty much came from one sqauddie and a hysterical yank reporter who admited she didnt actually see any such thing Like the 600 killed in a Israeli airstrike reported by Hammas?? Not seen you question one thing put out by the palistinian health ministry. Kids where tied together and set on fire by hammas. This is verified but you believe what you want to believe. People on the extreme far left are all the same Is that worse than bombing kids? IDF are not deliberately targeting civilians which you well know.. and to even try and compare the two is a total disgrace. You're right. It's a disgrace to compare them. The IDF have killed way more civilians and kids. " So has the place you currently live in. Your point being? I would say if it was a Guinness world record you might come out on top. You can judge but you are sitting comfortably on what was built on the same exact atrocities. So why can't Israel do the same? I will tell you because you can't handle that thought process. | |||
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"Hypocrisy in action? Exceptions as to why the two conflicts are extremely hypocritical.. NATO (the USA) have a pathological fixation over Russia, Iran, Cuba etc.. So logic is reversed from the Ukraine and Russia, when dealing with Palistine and Israel., because of Iran, My thoughts are that because the USA have it in for both Russia and Iran so have to invert logic to fit both. Hard line, zero negotiations and tough talk to Russia at uktaines expense... While Full support of Israel aggression At palistinian expense Russia wasn't attacked by Ukraine. Ukraine did not go Into Russia and cut babies heads off, tie children together then set them on fire and return to Ukraine with 200+ hostiges in tow... Neither did Palestine. Hammas who governs the Gazza strip did as you well know.is this beheading babies thing still doing the rounds? Not seen one news outlet verify this yet, and it pretty much came from one sqauddie and a hysterical yank reporter who admited she didnt actually see any such thing Like the 600 killed in a Israeli airstrike reported by Hammas?? Not seen you question one thing put out by the palistinian health ministry. Kids where tied together and set on fire by hammas. This is verified but you believe what you want to believe. People on the extreme far left are all the same Is that worse than bombing kids? IDF are not deliberately targeting civilians which you well know.. and to even try and compare the two is a total disgrace. You're right. It's a disgrace to compare them. The IDF have killed way more civilians and kids. So has the place you currently live in. " Yes " Your point being? " I suppose the point is, there are some very vocal people about Israeli kids being killed. But those same people are making every excuse under the sun to justify Palestinian kids getting killed. It's not great. " I would say if it was a Guinness world record you might come out on top. You can judge but you are sitting comfortably on what was built on the same exact atrocities. So why can't Israel do the same? I will tell you because you can't handle that thought process." I agree about the damage done by the British empire. I think the thought process is pretty basic and easy, and is very easy to handle. I am opposed to civilians and kids being killed regardless of religion, nationality, or any other denominator. Does that answer your question? | |||
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"If you think Gaza is in the wrong please do some research before you talk on a subject with no knowledge. But let’s give you a simple analogy… I’m homeless and you give me a room in your house, after some time I slowly take more of your house and call it mine. Overtime you’re left with 1 room in YOUR own house and I claim the rest as mine now, and each time you try to defend yourself I overpower you. And each time you defend yourself I tell the whole neighbourhood how abusive you are. Fast foreward many many years of this to current date. You decide to fight back with very little force, in return I destroy your room. I then tell you to leave without being harmed through the hall way, and as you go, I attack you. This isn’t up for discussion as to who’s right or wrong, do your research instead of seeing the media tell you what’s happening because we all know the media are corrupt! PS. I’ve not mentioned the fact that Palestine is majority children and women… and the fact that Israel has killed thousands of kids with no media outlet talking about it however they find the time to make up lies about “hammas” killing kids. There is no proof, there’s been evidence proving what Israel has said is fake and has been debunked by scientist! " Your analogy isn't exactly right. Comparing a single person living in a place with a huge population living across generations isn't fair. There is evidence that kids have been killed. Dead bodies of babies have been found. What's not confirmed is beheading of babies as it was reported in the beginning. | |||
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"If you think Gaza is in the wrong please do some research before you talk on a subject with no knowledge. But let’s give you a simple analogy… I’m homeless and you give me a room in your house, after some time I slowly take more of your house and call it mine. Overtime you’re left with 1 room in YOUR own house and I claim the rest as mine now, and each time you try to defend yourself I overpower you. And each time you defend yourself I tell the whole neighbourhood how abusive you are. Fast foreward many many years of this to current date. You decide to fight back with very little force, in return I destroy your room. I then tell you to leave without being harmed through the hall way, and as you go, I attack you. This isn’t up for discussion as to who’s right or wrong, do your research instead of seeing the media tell you what’s happening because we all know the media are corrupt! PS. I’ve not mentioned the fact that Palestine is majority children and women… and the fact that Israel has killed thousands of kids with no media outlet talking about it however they find the time to make up lies about “hammas” killing kids. There is no proof, there’s been evidence proving what Israel has said is fake and has been debunked by scientist! Your analogy isn't exactly right. Comparing a single person living in a place with a huge population living across generations isn't fair. There is evidence that kids have been killed. Dead bodies of babies have been found. What's not confirmed is beheading of babies as it was reported in the beginning. " Hence why it’s an analogy… There’s been many fakes, AI used, the hospital bombing being blamed on hammas which was debunked. Actors used to portray thenselves as victims of bombings… but it’s okay, out of everything that’s happened maybe looking into the one negative on palistine side rather than seeing the years of negatives on Israel’s is how people think  | |||
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"out of everything that’s happened maybe looking into the one negative on palistine side rather than seeing the years of negatives on Israel’s is how people think "You seem informed on this issue. (1) What should Israel do now, realistically? (2) How should people (non-involved, British) think? | |||
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"If you think Gaza is in the wrong please do some research before you talk on a subject with no knowledge. But let’s give you a simple analogy… I’m homeless and you give me a room in your house, after some time I slowly take more of your house and call it mine. Overtime you’re left with 1 room in YOUR own house and I claim the rest as mine now, and each time you try to defend yourself I overpower you. And each time you defend yourself I tell the whole neighbourhood how abusive you are. Fast foreward many many years of this to current date. You decide to fight back with very little force, in return I destroy your room. I then tell you to leave without being harmed through the hall way, and as you go, I attack you. This isn’t up for discussion as to who’s right or wrong, do your research instead of seeing the media tell you what’s happening because we all know the media are corrupt! PS. I’ve not mentioned the fact that Palestine is majority children and women… and the fact that Israel has killed thousands of kids with no media outlet talking about it however they find the time to make up lies about “hammas” killing kids. There is no proof, there’s been evidence proving what Israel has said is fake and has been debunked by scientist! Your analogy isn't exactly right. Comparing a single person living in a place with a huge population living across generations isn't fair. There is evidence that kids have been killed. Dead bodies of babies have been found. What's not confirmed is beheading of babies as it was reported in the beginning. Hence why it’s an analogy… There’s been many fakes, AI used, the hospital bombing being blamed on hammas which was debunked. Actors used to portray thenselves as victims of bombings… but it’s okay, out of everything that’s happened maybe looking into the one negative on palistine side rather than seeing the years of negatives on Israel’s is how people think "So your anology is inaccurate. Then what's the point of making that anology? Were there fakes? Absolutely. Both sides have been making a lot of fakes. But you said there is no proof of kids being killed. You just have to look at the official list of people who were killed. Whether that justifies Israel's bombing is a different debate though. | |||
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"Hypocrisy in action? Exceptions as to why the two conflicts are extremely hypocritical.. NATO (the USA) have a pathological fixation over Russia, Iran, Cuba etc.. So logic is reversed from the Ukraine and Russia, when dealing with Palistine and Israel., because of Iran, My thoughts are that because the USA have it in for both Russia and Iran so have to invert logic to fit both. Hard line, zero negotiations and tough talk to Russia at uktaines expense... While Full support of Israel aggression At palistinian expense Russia wasn't attacked by Ukraine. Ukraine did not go Into Russia and cut babies heads off, tie children together then set them on fire and return to Ukraine with 200+ hostiges in tow... Neither did Palestine. Hammas who governs the Gazza strip did as you well know.is this beheading babies thing still doing the rounds? Not seen one news outlet verify this yet, and it pretty much came from one sqauddie and a hysterical yank reporter who admited she didnt actually see any such thing Like the 600 killed in a Israeli airstrike reported by Hammas?? Not seen you question one thing put out by the palistinian health ministry. Kids where tied together and set on fire by hammas. This is verified but you believe what you want to believe. People on the extreme far left are all the same Is that worse than bombing kids? It is war if you are not aware. People die. Unless all your news sources are saying something else. Bombs were not designed to just spread glitter and rainbows now were they. If you can't see that reality maybe you should try a different pill to swallow to make you feel better. Anyway you look at it the cold harsh reality is what again? " Oh so why is it that a total of 148 children died in Ukraine because of Russian bombardment that’s been ongoing for two years. Let’s not forget how big the Ukraine is. Let’s compare that to Gaza now … 14 days in and they’ve killed over 1700 babies.. this is a confirmed number! Let’s not forget those that are under the rubble. You tell me if the IDF does not target civilians and terrorises the Palestinians! | |||
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"Hypocrisy in action? Exceptions as to why the two conflicts are extremely hypocritical.. NATO (the USA) have a pathological fixation over Russia, Iran, Cuba etc.. So logic is reversed from the Ukraine and Russia, when dealing with Palistine and Israel., because of Iran, My thoughts are that because the USA have it in for both Russia and Iran so have to invert logic to fit both. Hard line, zero negotiations and tough talk to Russia at uktaines expense... While Full support of Israel aggression At palistinian expense Russia wasn't attacked by Ukraine. Ukraine did not go Into Russia and cut babies heads off, tie children together then set them on fire and return to Ukraine with 200+ hostiges in tow... Neither did Palestine. Hammas who governs the Gazza strip did as you well know.is this beheading babies thing still doing the rounds? Not seen one news outlet verify this yet, and it pretty much came from one sqauddie and a hysterical yank reporter who admited she didnt actually see any such thing Like the 600 killed in a Israeli airstrike reported by Hammas?? Not seen you question one thing put out by the palistinian health ministry. Kids where tied together and set on fire by hammas. This is verified but you believe what you want to believe. People on the extreme far left are all the same Is that worse than bombing kids? IDF are not deliberately targeting civilians which you well know.. and to even try and compare the two is a total disgrace." Oh so why is it that a total of 148 children died in Ukraine because of Russian bombardment that’s been ongoing for two years. Let’s not forget how big the Ukraine is. Let’s compare that to Gaza now … 14 days in and they’ve killed over 1700 babies.. this is a confirmed number! Let’s not forget those that are under the rubble. You tell me if the IDF does not target civilians and terrorises the Palestinians! | |||
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"Oh so why is it that a total of 148 children died in Ukraine because of Russian bombardment that’s been ongoing for two years." Your number of 148 is not consistent with UN data for the past 2 years. That is the number since May (much lighter fighting). The total number of deaths is officially at 540+. Ukrainians (a) move their children out of harm's way where possible and (b) do not conduct military operations from anywhere near children. This means that Russian fire and counterfire has no reason to target locations with children. Additionally, Russians have captured and forcibly relocated an untold number of children. "Let’s compare that to Gaza now … 14 days in and they’ve killed over 1700 babies.. this is a confirmed number!" Firstly, this is grizzly and ghastly, no population should be subjected to such horror. This is the unfortunate and tragic reality of war. (1) Babies is a misleading term - you might mean "persons under 18" when quoting that number? That is not to take away from the horror of babies literally being crushed beneath buildings targeted by the IDF or burnt in rocket misfires. (2) This number, however, is "confirmed" by Hamas - that's not to say it is definitely incorrect, but this is an organisation that "confirmed" that 500+ people were killed in an IDF hospital bombing, which was later broadly demonstrated (if not proven beyond all doubt) to be untrue. So, at the very least, this "confirmed" number includes a probable lie (unless they're excluding the hospital numnber). " You tell me if the IDF does not target civilians and terrorises the Palestinians!" It is unlikely that the IDF is generally *targeting* civilians (and, by extension children). The most likely scenario is that they are going after strategic and tactical targets and that civilians are caught up and killed. To be clear, that in itself does not justify the action (that's for bodies like the ICC to decide), but it is improbable and disingenuous to declare that the IDF is actively specifically trying to kill (targeting) civilians. Where is the logic in that? Whether the IDF is terrorising would depend upon your definition of terrorising. Causing terror to? Certainly. Conducting activities designed for no other reason then to cause panic and terror? That is, at the very least, debatable. | |||
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"Oh so why is it that a total of 148 children died in Ukraine because of Russian bombardment that’s been ongoing for two years. Your number of 148 is not consistent with UN data for the past 2 years. That is the number since May (much lighter fighting). The total number of deaths is officially at 540+. Ukrainians (a) move their children out of harm's way where possible and (b) do not conduct military operations from anywhere near children. This means that Russian fire and counterfire has no reason to target locations with children. Additionally, Russians have captured and forcibly relocated an untold number of children. Let’s compare that to Gaza now … 14 days in and they’ve killed over 1700 babies.. this is a confirmed number! Firstly, this is grizzly and ghastly, no population should be subjected to such horror. This is the unfortunate and tragic reality of war. (1) Babies is a misleading term - you might mean "persons under 18" when quoting that number? That is not to take away from the horror of babies literally being crushed beneath buildings targeted by the IDF or burnt in rocket misfires. (2) This number, however, is "confirmed" by Hamas - that's not to say it is definitely incorrect, but this is an organisation that "confirmed" that 500+ people were killed in an IDF hospital bombing, which was later broadly demonstrated (if not proven beyond all doubt) to be untrue. So, at the very least, this "confirmed" number includes a probable lie (unless they're excluding the hospital numnber). You tell me if the IDF does not target civilians and terrorises the Palestinians! It is unlikely that the IDF is generally *targeting* civilians (and, by extension children). The most likely scenario is that they are going after strategic and tactical targets and that civilians are caught up and killed. To be clear, that in itself does not justify the action (that's for bodies like the ICC to decide), but it is improbable and disingenuous to declare that the IDF is actively specifically trying to kill (targeting) civilians. Where is the logic in that? Whether the IDF is terrorising would depend upon your definition of terrorising. Causing terror to? Certainly. Conducting activities designed for no other reason then to cause panic and terror? That is, at the very least, debatable." If the IDF want the world to really believe they aren't intentionally targeting civilians. They could start by not bombing south of the line they told civilians to move from and the crossing with Egypt. | |||
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"If the IDF want the world to really believe they aren't intentionally targeting civilians. They could start by not bombing south of the line they told civilians to move from and the crossing with Egypt. " That will never happen, and they won't tie their hands in that way. They will target Hamas/militants where they see them, but clearing out the North was about taking civilians out of the equation in terms of a ground offensive. When they go in, they will probably shoot anything that moves, so they're giving civilians forewarning of that. They will attack any military position, the question is whether there are targets south of the river. There is, unfortunately, almost no safe space in Gaza. Or rather, wherever there is a legitimate target, nobody in the vicinity is safe. Israel's contention is that targets should not be placed within civilian populations. Hamas's position is that it's the most efficient way to wage war on Israel for multiple reasons. The innocent citizens of Gaza get extremely limited choice in the matter - leave everything and risk the wrath of Hamas when told to move by Israel, or stay and get bombed. It's a grim and tragic existence for them. | |||
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