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"You might be surprised how long Russia can survive in partnership with china and ignoring the rest of the world" Sure I just read that China is turning its back on him too | |||
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"You might be surprised how long Russia can survive in partnership with china and ignoring the rest of the world Sure I just read that China is turning its back on him too" Last I heard the Chinese refused to use the word invasion | |||
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"Watching Putin on the news, is it the translation or is this the ramblings of a man who has lost his marbles?" Compare and contrast to Boris ? | |||
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"Watching Putin on the news, is it the translation or is this the ramblings of a man who has lost his marbles? Compare and contrast to Boris ?" Really? I don’t see the comparison 
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"Watching Putin on the news, is it the translation or is this the ramblings of a man who has lost his marbles? Compare and contrast to Boris ?" Boris is more like a poor man's trump | |||
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"Interesting topic. I think as long as the authoritarian regimes keep it to their own countries, it makes sense to leave those countries to themselves. The damage caused by wars is much worse than anything the authoritarian government would do. It's only when the authoritarian government tries to mess up other democracies, they need to get involved. One good thing that the increase in world trade has done is that you can fight these countries without actually going into a physical war. People like to make fun of sanctions. But they are very effective and Russia for example cannot sustain long term with all the sanctions. That's one of the reasons why China likes to have Chinese owned businesses flourishing inside instead of allowing multi national companies. But anyway, as long as the authoritarian regimes keep it to themselves, other democracies shouldn't interfere in these matters. It's the duty of the people in the countries concerned to figure it out themselves." I think we, in the West, are going to have to put up with their ideologies and methods, as you say, unless they represent an existential threat to our way of life. Neither China nor (particularly) Russia have the capacity, nor the desire to become such a threat; beyond already being able to make the obvious threat of MAD, which the USA, UK and France all make in their turn. The Saudis - just like the Russians - murder journalists but we don't sanction them. We aren't taking serious sanctions against China, either - and they're actively engaged in genocide. So, the West really can turn a blind eye if it wants or needs to. | |||
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"Watching Putin on the news, is it the translation or is this the ramblings of a man who has lost his marbles? Compare and contrast to Boris ? Really? I don’t see the comparison
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" One good thing that the increase in world trade has done is that you can fight these countries without actually going into a physical war. People like to make fun of sanctions. But they are very effective and Russia for example cannot sustain long term with all the sanctions. " Can I ask you what you base that on. I mean sanctions have hardly brought Cuba, Iran, North Korea and Venezuela to beg for forgiveness. So why do you think Russia a much wealthier country than the mentioned be so quick to give up..? | |||
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"Interesting topic. I think as long as the authoritarian regimes keep it to their own countries, it makes sense to leave those countries to themselves. The damage caused by wars is much worse than anything the authoritarian government would do. It's only when the authoritarian government tries to mess up other democracies, they need to get involved. One good thing that the increase in world trade has done is that you can fight these countries without actually going into a physical war. People like to make fun of sanctions. But they are very effective and Russia for example cannot sustain long term with all the sanctions. That's one of the reasons why China likes to have Chinese owned businesses flourishing inside instead of allowing multi national companies. But anyway, as long as the authoritarian regimes keep it to themselves, other democracies shouldn't interfere in these matters. It's the duty of the people in the countries concerned to figure it out themselves. I think we, in the West, are going to have to put up with their ideologies and methods, as you say, unless they represent an existential threat to our way of life. Neither China nor (particularly) Russia have the capacity, nor the desire to become such a threat; beyond already being able to make the obvious threat of MAD, which the USA, UK and France all make in their turn. The Saudis - just like the Russians - murder journalists but we don't sanction them. We aren't taking serious sanctions against China, either - and they're actively engaged in genocide. So, the West really can turn a blind eye if it wants or needs to." Agreed  | |||
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" One good thing that the increase in world trade has done is that you can fight these countries without actually going into a physical war. People like to make fun of sanctions. But they are very effective and Russia for example cannot sustain long term with all the sanctions. Can I ask you what you base that on. I mean sanctions have hardly brought Cuba, Iran, North Korea and Venezuela to beg for forgiveness. So why do you think Russia a much wealthier country than the mentioned be so quick to give up..?" They have two options. One is to live with sanctions. That's what egomaniacs ruling the places you mentioned did. You know the impact it caused to the life and economies of these countries. They will eventually become much weaker compared to other countries that thet are not a concern anymore. The other option is to give up on one's ego and take steps to avoid the sanctions. But people like Putin and other authoritarians who do such things are not capable of giving up their ego. Eventually it's the people who will be affected by the sanctions and it's the people who should revolt against these authoritarians. Ideally Putin should realise that the country will be fucked if he continues. Whether that happens is something for us to wait and see. | |||
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" One good thing that the increase in world trade has done is that you can fight these countries without actually going into a physical war. People like to make fun of sanctions. But they are very effective and Russia for example cannot sustain long term with all the sanctions. Can I ask you what you base that on. I mean sanctions have hardly brought Cuba, Iran, North Korea and Venezuela to beg for forgiveness. So why do you think Russia a much wealthier country than the mentioned be so quick to give up..? They have two options. One is to live with sanctions. That's what egomaniacs ruling the places you mentioned did. You know the impact it caused to the life and economies of these countries. They will eventually become much weaker compared to other countries that thet are not a concern anymore. The other option is to give up on one's ego and take steps to avoid the sanctions. But people like Putin and other authoritarians who do such things are not capable of giving up their ego. Eventually it's the people who will be affected by the sanctions and it's the people who should revolt against these authoritarians. Ideally Putin should realise that the country will be fucked if he continues. Whether that happens is something for us to wait and see." Yes all very well trying to predict what may and may not happen. So apart from slowly weakening them, they are not what you would say are very effective. Dont think that is the goal. They have failed to change regimes in the other countries or change the regimes actions. | |||
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" One good thing that the increase in world trade has done is that you can fight these countries without actually going into a physical war. People like to make fun of sanctions. But they are very effective and Russia for example cannot sustain long term with all the sanctions. Can I ask you what you base that on. I mean sanctions have hardly brought Cuba, Iran, North Korea and Venezuela to beg for forgiveness. So why do you think Russia a much wealthier country than the mentioned be so quick to give up..? They have two options. One is to live with sanctions. That's what egomaniacs ruling the places you mentioned did. You know the impact it caused to the life and economies of these countries. They will eventually become much weaker compared to other countries that thet are not a concern anymore. The other option is to give up on one's ego and take steps to avoid the sanctions. But people like Putin and other authoritarians who do such things are not capable of giving up their ego. Eventually it's the people who will be affected by the sanctions and it's the people who should revolt against these authoritarians. Ideally Putin should realise that the country will be fucked if he continues. Whether that happens is something for us to wait and see. Yes all very well trying to predict what may and may not happen. So apart from slowly weakening them, they are not what you would say are very effective. Dont think that is the goal. They have failed to change regimes in the other countries or change the regimes actions." Yes. But at least the countries are not a serious threat to others. If the people from those countries really cared, they are the ones who should revolt. If Western liberal democracies interfere in their internal matters, it will only become a mess like the middle east. Sanctions are not perfect. But that's the best choice that we have. | |||
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" One good thing that the increase in world trade has done is that you can fight these countries without actually going into a physical war. People like to make fun of sanctions. But they are very effective and Russia for example cannot sustain long term with all the sanctions. Can I ask you what you base that on. I mean sanctions have hardly brought Cuba, Iran, North Korea and Venezuela to beg for forgiveness. So why do you think Russia a much wealthier country than the mentioned be so quick to give up..? They have two options. One is to live with sanctions. That's what egomaniacs ruling the places you mentioned did. You know the impact it caused to the life and economies of these countries. They will eventually become much weaker compared to other countries that thet are not a concern anymore. The other option is to give up on one's ego and take steps to avoid the sanctions. But people like Putin and other authoritarians who do such things are not capable of giving up their ego. Eventually it's the people who will be affected by the sanctions and it's the people who should revolt against these authoritarians. Ideally Putin should realise that the country will be fucked if he continues. Whether that happens is something for us to wait and see. Yes all very well trying to predict what may and may not happen. So apart from slowly weakening them, they are not what you would say are very effective. Dont think that is the goal. They have failed to change regimes in the other countries or change the regimes actions. Yes. But at least the countries are not a serious threat to others. If the people from those countries really cared, they are the ones who should revolt. If Western liberal democracies interfere in their internal matters, it will only become a mess like the middle east. Sanctions are not perfect. But that's the best choice that we have." How can you say they are not a threat to other countries. Israel, Saudi Arabia and the USA are constantly trying to nullify Iran influence in the region and stop them developing a nuclear weapon. Take North Korea, a tiny country that has bigger countries like USA and China worried about developing nuclear missiles that might reach California. I think the media narrative about what sanctions will achieve with Russia is not bourne out by the evidence of the past. | |||
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" One good thing that the increase in world trade has done is that you can fight these countries without actually going into a physical war. People like to make fun of sanctions. But they are very effective and Russia for example cannot sustain long term with all the sanctions. Can I ask you what you base that on. I mean sanctions have hardly brought Cuba, Iran, North Korea and Venezuela to beg for forgiveness. So why do you think Russia a much wealthier country than the mentioned be so quick to give up..? They have two options. One is to live with sanctions. That's what egomaniacs ruling the places you mentioned did. You know the impact it caused to the life and economies of these countries. They will eventually become much weaker compared to other countries that thet are not a concern anymore. The other option is to give up on one's ego and take steps to avoid the sanctions. But people like Putin and other authoritarians who do such things are not capable of giving up their ego. Eventually it's the people who will be affected by the sanctions and it's the people who should revolt against these authoritarians. Ideally Putin should realise that the country will be fucked if he continues. Whether that happens is something for us to wait and see. Yes all very well trying to predict what may and may not happen. So apart from slowly weakening them, they are not what you would say are very effective. Dont think that is the goal. They have failed to change regimes in the other countries or change the regimes actions. Yes. But at least the countries are not a serious threat to others. If the people from those countries really cared, they are the ones who should revolt. If Western liberal democracies interfere in their internal matters, it will only become a mess like the middle east. Sanctions are not perfect. But that's the best choice that we have." War is the answer when a country has no military to defend itself and sanctions when they do. | |||
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" One good thing that the increase in world trade has done is that you can fight these countries without actually going into a physical war. People like to make fun of sanctions. But they are very effective and Russia for example cannot sustain long term with all the sanctions. Can I ask you what you base that on. I mean sanctions have hardly brought Cuba, Iran, North Korea and Venezuela to beg for forgiveness. So why do you think Russia a much wealthier country than the mentioned be so quick to give up..? They have two options. One is to live with sanctions. That's what egomaniacs ruling the places you mentioned did. You know the impact it caused to the life and economies of these countries. They will eventually become much weaker compared to other countries that thet are not a concern anymore. The other option is to give up on one's ego and take steps to avoid the sanctions. But people like Putin and other authoritarians who do such things are not capable of giving up their ego. Eventually it's the people who will be affected by the sanctions and it's the people who should revolt against these authoritarians. Ideally Putin should realise that the country will be fucked if he continues. Whether that happens is something for us to wait and see. Yes all very well trying to predict what may and may not happen. So apart from slowly weakening them, they are not what you would say are very effective. Dont think that is the goal. They have failed to change regimes in the other countries or change the regimes actions. Yes. But at least the countries are not a serious threat to others. If the people from those countries really cared, they are the ones who should revolt. If Western liberal democracies interfere in their internal matters, it will only become a mess like the middle east. Sanctions are not perfect. But that's the best choice that we have. How can you say they are not a threat to other countries. Israel, Saudi Arabia and the USA are constantly trying to nullify Iran influence in the region and stop them developing a nuclear weapon. Take North Korea, a tiny country that has bigger countries like USA and China worried about developing nuclear missiles that might reach California. I think the media narrative about what sanctions will achieve with Russia is not bourne out by the evidence of the past." There is always fear about what every other country might do. The countries you mentioned know that they will be decimated if they touch any of the big countries. | |||
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